Quote Originally Posted by 91Niner View Post
You might want to take a look at the 1st and 2nd year results from the all of the recent D1 start-ups. Everyone of them has lost to either a D3 or a "non-scholly" D1, which is no better and in some cases worse.
Georgia State is complete dog ****...and UNCC seems to be on a similar trajectory.

Mercer's only loss is San Diego - D1 - and have beaten all lower level schools by a average score of 40-14

ODU's first year they lost to 2 D1's and beat both lower level schools by an average of 43-19. Their second year had 3 losses...all to D1's...and didn't play a lowe level school. Actually, they haven't played a d2 or lower since their first season in 2009. They are beating full FBS teams without being a full FBS themselves at this point.

UTSA lost to McMurry in year 1 by 3 but beat the other lower level teams by an average of 52-7, played a FCS schedule. Their second year they played 2 non D1 teams and won by an average of 43-9...not only that they played 9 FBS schools and went 8-4

South Alabama first year went 7-0 playing only lower level schools and won by an average of 46-6. Second year went 10-0 playing 6 lower level and 4 D1's schools winning by an average of 54-12. Third season went 6-4 playing 2 lower level and a 50/50 split of FCS and FBS. They beat the lower level schools 24-6. 4th season went 2-11 playing all FBS (and 1 FCS).


Who else was there?

Notice something happening here? Teams have typically KILLED it their first season and only gotten better if they stayed FCS, but even the teams that were absolutley killing it once they hit a tougher FCS/FBS schedule fell off the face of the earth. ODU, probably the best start up program there was, was a to5 rated FCS program within 3 years and are now 7-3 with a mix of FCS and FBS however, they are just 1-3 against FBS schools. The one win was against Idaho, the other games have finished in an average loss of 45-24



Anyone with half a working brain would put a million dollars on ODU being the most successful start up to FBS program and even then they are looking at probably 7-8 wins at most for quite some time...including likely throttling the **** out of UNCC.

Non-scholly D1s still recruit a higher level athlete than the vast majority of D3s. Drake, a non-scholly in Iowa, would beat every single D3 school in the state of Iowa...and there is 10 of them. The only D1 non-scholly's that wouldn't be almost every single D3 would be....Valpo, Campbell, and Davidson...maybe Stetson


So....keep spinning the excuse wheel, the hole is just getting deeper under it