A janitor at a public university needs to be paid if they clean a different building than normal, even if by choice. They can volunteer to judge a basketweaving competition for no pay though.Originally Posted by nodak651
ETA: Funny that Fubear said almost the exact same thing while I was typing.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/05/b...5d233a1e6d83ffHouse, which really isn’t seeking to answer ‘the employee question,’ will not be decided until 2025, if then, and FUBeAR has no idea what the timetable for Johnson looks like.
A “messenger” provides unbiased, hopefully truthful and accurate, information.
Not even close in any aspect of that.
You brought your opinion, stated it as a fact; “truth” to be precise, as if your mere opinion represents some irrefutable truth, as you have once again done in this post. And, you also tried to position that the opinions of (one or more) political appointees (only) were/are not “political.” Opinions of political appointees are ALWAYS political. It’s what they are paid to do.
That is not being a “messenger.” It’s marketing. It’s purveying propaganda.
Cyanide was too good for Goebbels. On the other hand, FUBeAR was a big fan of Don Draper.
It is characteristic of the unlearned that they are forever proposing something which is old, and because it has recently come to their own attention, supposing it to be new.
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Paywall - assume it doesn’t say anything different than what FUBeAR has said … An NLRB Regional Director has opined, just as a prior NLRB Regional Director opined in 2014 regarding Northwestern’s Football Players, that Dartmouth’s (Men’s) Basketball Players ARE “Employees” and can be represented by a union (Service Workers in this case; it was Steelworkers at Northwestern) that has gotten at least 30% of the Players (“Employees” in the NLRB’s Director’s opinion) to sign cards / petition the NLRB to hold an election to certify (or not) the union if a majority of these (opined as) “employees” vote for such.
Any other exciting info in that article?
FWIW - in the Northwestern case, the NLRB National Board overruled the Regional Director’s opinion and the results of the election were, allegedly, never tabulated. It is commonly believed that the Northwestern Players, once they had time to REALLY understand what being unionized meant and were to cast a confidential ballot vs. their starting QB requiring them to do an immediate, non-confidential signing of a card in an open group setting, that the union had zero chance of certification. FUBeAR opines that the votes were counted and further opines that IF the Players had voted to certify the union, that info would have leaked in the past 10 years.
We’ll see what happens in the Dartmouth case. Doubtful the current NLRB would overturn the Regional Director as President Biden appointed the NLRB’s Chief Legal Counsel (who has previously opined, rather vehemently, that there is really no such thing as a “Student-Athlete” because they are “employees”) who appointed the Regional Director. It will then go to the courts, most likely…but whether or not that will ‘hold up’ an election remains to be seen, as does the outcome of such an election.
FUBeAR once did an Executive Search for a Large Facility Director in NJ for a company that had 2 sets of Union Workers from 2 different unions walking the picket line outside the Facility - 1st Union went on strike, replacement workers hired, replacement workers unionized by a different union & then they also go on strike - and the 2nd set of replacement workers was in the process of signing cards from a 3rd union. It was a complete ****show. That’s what FUBeAR hopes to see happen at any of these places if STUDENT ATHLETES are determined to be “employees” AND become a ‘union shop.’ It will be ****ing hilarious.
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NCAA DIVISION I MANUAL
20.10.1 Commitments to the Division I Collegiate Model
Bylaws proposed and enacted by member institutions governing the conduct of intercollegiate athletics shall be designed to foster competition in amateur athletics…
20.10.1.2 The Commitment to Amateurism
Member institutions shall conduct their athletics programs…maintaining a line of demarcation between student-athletes who participate in the Collegiate Model and athletes competing in the professional model
Note: Shoes are compensation - that's literally what the NLRB's decision entails. They're going to Dartmouth allegedly for the compensation of shoes. No, I'm not making this up. Men's hoops at Dartmouth don't offer extra scholarship $ that isn't already available for the rest of the student body, so a scholarship isn't compensation.
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This about sums it up. Good perspective, albeit from an FBS coach. But it probably reflects the feelings of a large proportion of FCS, and lower division coaches.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nick-...doing-this.amp
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