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    Re: SoCon Playoff chaos scenario

    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinFan View Post
    As I noted in the other thread, Wofford could finish 9-2, lose to Samford and USC, and finish 3rd in the SoCon.

    That 2013 season is a cautionary tale about handling your business while you have the opportunity to. UTC shared the SoCon title and was left home.
    IF Wofford finishes 9-2 with losses only to Samford and USC....no way they can finish in anything other than 2nd right?? And that could only be the case if Samford won all the way out, seeing that Wofford already has beaten the only other 1 loss SoCon team right?? Maybe I looked at that wrong....

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    Re: SoCon Playoff chaos scenario

    Quote Originally Posted by Terrier19 View Post
    IF Wofford finishes 9-2 with losses only to Samford and USC....no way they can finish in anything other than 2nd right?? And that could only be the case if Samford won all the way out, seeing that Wofford already has beaten the only other 1 loss SoCon team right?? Maybe I looked at that wrong....
    If Samford and WCU win-out, they along with Wofford in your scenario would be 7-1 in conference. So a 3-way tie, and tiebreakers outside of head-to-head come into play. That scenario would also give the other schools trying to get into position additional conference losses, and would mean 3 from the SoCon would probably be the max.

    It is probably more realistic that we end up with a 7-1 champion, maybe a couple of 6-2 teams, and then a bunch of 4-4 and 5-3 teams. Then it will be interesting to see if more than 3 get in. Right now part of our problem is that the middle of the pack is a whole bunch of the league, and just about anybody can beat anybody on a given Saturday.

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    Re: SoCon Playoff chaos scenario

    Quote Originally Posted by wcugrad95 View Post
    If Samford and WCU win-out, they along with Wofford in your scenario would be 7-1 in conference. So a 3-way tie, and tiebreakers outside of head-to-head come into play.
    Right. That was the scenario in 2013. Furman/UTC/Samford all finished with identical conference records and went 1-1 against the other two teams tied for first.

    Hypothetically, WCU/Samford/Wofford could finish with 1 conference loss and a 1-1 record against the other two.

    The next tie breaker is record against the highest ranked team not involved in the tie breaker. In that event, there would be no resolution because all three teams would be undefeated against the rest of the conference.

    I think it then goes to fewest points allowed among the tied teams. No way of knowing that yet, but Wofford would have a pretty good shot at that tie breaker unless WCU and Samford start throwing some shutouts.
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    Re: SoCon Playoff chaos scenario

    Quote Originally Posted by wcugrad95 View Post
    If Samford and WCU win-out, they along with Wofford in your scenario would be 7-1 in conference. So a 3-way tie, and tiebreakers outside of head-to-head come into play. That scenario would also give the other schools trying to get into position additional conference losses, and would mean 3 from the SoCon would probably be the max.

    It is probably more realistic that we end up with a 7-1 champion, maybe a couple of 6-2 teams, and then a bunch of 4-4 and 5-3 teams. Then it will be interesting to see if more than 3 get in. Right now part of our problem is that the middle of the pack is a whole bunch of the league, and just about anybody can beat anybody on a given Saturday.
    Got ya......in the instance that this happens and only 3 teams make it....that would be 3 strong teams in the playoffs......

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    Re: SoCon Playoff chaos scenario

    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinFan View Post
    As I noted in the other thread, Wofford could finish 9-2, lose to Samford and USC, and finish 3rd in the SoCon.

    That 2013 season is a cautionary tale about handling your business while you have the opportunity to. UTC shared the SoCon title and was left home.
    It would’ve been nice to say we got into the playoffs 4 straight years. The committee had to chose either us or Samford in which they did the right thing by choosing them since they beat us. In all honesty if we had gotten in you probably would’ve seen the same result in what happened to Samford. We were a very beat up team with a gimpy QB.

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    Re: SoCon Playoff chaos scenario

    Explain to me again how Colgate is still getting 9 votes to Furman's 3 votes in the STATS Poll????? Colgate is 2-4 with a loss to formerly 0-5 Lehigh and a blitzing of 45-14 at Andy Kerr Stadium by Furman...Thanks, but this damn poll and feeling towards the SoCon is biased.

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    Re: SoCon Playoff chaos scenario

    Quote Originally Posted by soconjohn5 View Post
    Explain to me again how Colgate is still getting 9 votes to Furman's 3 votes in the STATS Poll????? Colgate is 2-4 with a loss to formerly 0-5 Lehigh and a blitzing of 45-14 at Andy Kerr Stadium by Furman...Thanks, but this damn poll and feeling towards the SoCon is biased.
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    Re: SoCon Playoff chaos scenario

    Lots will depend on the bubble from around the country as well. Samford will be technically 6-4 against D1 competition and probably the easiest to leave out. Although 6 win teams do get in. It needs a damn good resume with it. 7-4 is no lock either. I will agree 8 wins should be lock for any SoCon team.

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    Re: SoCon Playoff chaos scenario

    Quote Originally Posted by BisonTru View Post
    Lots will depend on the bubble from around the country as well. Samford will be technically 6-4 against D1 competition and probably the easiest to leave out. Although 6 win teams do get in. It needs a damn good resume with it. 7-4 is no lock either. I will agree 8 wins should be lock for any SoCon team.
    I didn't follow your reasoning for the 6 D1 wins for Samford comment. We have 3 now with 5 games left, so any number from 3 to 8 is mathematically possible, or were you referring to some scenario previously posted?

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    Re: SoCon Playoff chaos scenario

    Quote Originally Posted by SU DOG View Post
    I didn't follow your reasoning for the 6 D1 wins for Samford comment. We have 3 now with 5 games left, so any number from 3 to 8 is mathematically possible, or were you referring to some scenario previously posted?
    Yes, the scenario in the OP.

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