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    Ivy League: The Final Week for 2021

    OK, weeks go by so fast. When will the Ivy champion join the playoffs or replace the MEAC in the Celebration Bowl? Within my lifetime? (I'm turning 32 Thanksgiving weekend)

    Dartmouth at Brown
    Harvard at Yale - what's with the Elis ATM?
    Princeton at Penn
    Columbia at Cornell - Archer is canned after this game.
    If the NCAA eventually splits up or implodes itself, will Ivy League football be lost in transition, along with some of our FCS brethren?

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    Re: Ivy League: The Final Week for 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by bonarae View Post
    OK, weeks go by so fast. When will the Ivy champion join the playoffs or replace the MEAC in the Celebration Bowl? Within my lifetime? (I'm turning 32 Thanksgiving weekend)

    Dartmouth at Brown
    Harvard at Yale - what's with the Elis ATM?
    Princeton at Penn
    Columbia at Cornell - Archer is canned after this game.
    I agree with these picks.

    And Iíd be surprised if the Harvard-Yale crowd exceeds 45K, and it might be thousands less. Itís a battle for third place.
    Harvard 2021: Close, but no cigar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivytalk View Post
    Itís a battle for third place.
    If Dartmouth *and* Princeton both lose their games on Saturday, then the winner of the H-Y game will get a share of the title.

    If Dartmouth or Princeton lose, then the winner of the H-Y game gets a tie for second.

    I do agree that it is highly likely that the H-Y game will indeed be for third place.

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    Re: Ivy League: The Final Week for 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivytalk View Post

    And Iíd be surprised if the Harvard-Yale crowd exceeds 45K, and it might be thousands less. Itís a battle for third place.
    A poster on the Ivy Sports Board says 47,000 tickets have been sold according to people in the athletic Dept.

    We will see.

    Article from the Yale Daily News about the Harvard game and the lack of spectators at other games

    https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/...arvard-enough/

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    Re: Ivy League: The Final Week for 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog10jw View Post
    A poster on the Ivy Sports Board says 47,000 tickets have been sold according to people in the athletic Dept.

    We will see.

    Article from the Yale Daily News about the Harvard game and the lack of spectators at other games

    https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/...arvard-enough/
    If The Game was at Harvard this year, I think Dartmouth would beat Yale in attendance.

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    Re: Ivy League: The Final Week for 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Go Green View Post
    If The Game was at Harvard this year, I think Dartmouth would beat Yale in attendance.
    I don't follow you. This year, the Harvard-Dartmouth game drew 14K. Harvard-Yale at Harvard Stadium has not always sold out (in 1998, IIRC, there were several thousand empty seats), but Harvard-Dartmouth has never outdrawn The Game in a given year. Yale fans almost always fill half the Stadium. Dartmouth games do outdraw Princeton at Harvard, however.
    Harvard 2021: Close, but no cigar.

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    Oh, and my fearless prediction is that Harvard's strong defense will prevail tomorrow over Yale's more prolific offense. Harvard 24, Yale 17.
    Harvard 2021: Close, but no cigar.

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    Re: Ivy League: The Final Week for 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivytalk View Post
    I don't follow you. This year, the Harvard-Dartmouth game drew 14K. Harvard-Yale at Harvard Stadium has not always sold out (in 1998, IIRC, there were several thousand empty seats), but Harvard-Dartmouth has never outdrawn The Game in a given year. Yale fans almost always fill half the Stadium. Dartmouth games do outdraw Princeton at Harvard, however.
    I'm positing that if you add up the attendance for the games at the Yale Bowl this year (other than Harvard), and you add up the attendance for games at Memorial Field this year, the Memorial Field average may be higher.

    Historically, that's remarkable.

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    Re: Ivy League: The Final Week for 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog10jw View Post
    A poster on the Ivy Sports Board says 47,000 tickets have been sold according to people in the athletic Dept.

    We will see.

    Article from the Yale Daily News about the Harvard game and the lack of spectators at other games

    https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2021/...arvard-enough/
    The article is an accurate take, in my view. The Game is more of a social event than anything else nowadays. I know a Harvard kid that I interviewed who ended up marrying a classmate, and she dragged him to the Harvard-Yale game his senior year. It was the only Harvard FB game he ever attended.

    I still believe that Yale alumni are generally more loyal than Harvard alums when it comes to sports. The only way I can explain the marginally higher Harvard home crowds for non-Yale games in recent years boils down to two factors:1. Harvard has at least one Friday night game a year, which is a big draw, and 2. slightly more Harvard undergrads make their way to the Stadium on Saturdays. Why, I don't know.
    Harvard 2021: Close, but no cigar.

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    Re: Ivy League: The Final Week for 2021

    Dartmouth
    Yale
    Princeton
    Cornell

    My early guess for Harvard- Yale is 40k. When was the last time Yale and Harvard played at the Bowl and, one or the other didn't control their own destiny?

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