WAC geography issue

[SFA 93]

SFA basketball got the post band switched to this season instead of the next, so we will be free and clear on all fronts going into the WAC.

[Laker]

As far as "footprint"- the WAC brought in schools that would be closer to the middle and got rid of an outlier in Chicago State. I'm sure that Seattle would love to be in the PCC or even the Big Sky but it doesn't look like that phone call has been made yet. Sometimes you have to stay where you are at. Sometimes you make a move that you think is up but it turns out not to be.

Remember when Boise State and San Diego State were going to join the Big East in football? Geographically it made no sense, yet they thought about doing it.

[wapiti]

Here's a visual representation of how isolated some teams are in the west.

Nevada needs an FCS team.

[Laker]

Nevada needs an FCS team.

Years ago I thought that Nevada State might rise to meet that challenge. Then I found out that their graduation rate barely reached double figures and that they didn't have sports teams. However, they are black and gold and called the Scorpions.

[Raven Maniac]

SFA's situation with APR has no impact on automatic bids in any sports as it relates to the WAC. 2020 was their football penalty and basketball will be when it is (again, won't have impact on WAC besides their eligibility for WAC tournament, automatic bid in '22 if it is denied). The WAC has enough schools for hoops auto bid in '21-22.



Outside of a quest for an automatic bid in football more expeditiously, none of these schools truly make sense for an all sports addition minus Northern Arizona. Cal Poly and UC-Davis won't be leaving the Big West in all sports. I was down with the football affiliation if they were since one trip to CA and one trip to UT for the Texas schools would've been fine and it would have only enhanced the league.

This I do know. SFA has applied to the NCAA asking that this be the year counting for their punishment. The tricky part here is the punishment was they could not be conference champs or participate in playoffs. Because they played in the fall, claimed they were conference champs and were not eligible to play spring conference games could be viewed by the NCAA in many ways. This might be a situation where WAC influence might help.


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[TexasTerror]

This I do know. SFA has applied to the NCAA asking that this be the year counting for their punishment. The tricky part here is the punishment was they could not be conference champs or participate in playoffs. Because they played in the fall, claimed they were conference champs and were not eligible to play spring conference games could be viewed by the NCAA in many ways. This might be a situation where WAC influence might help

FYI - you are speaking of the wrong sport.

Football was always supposed to be penalized for the '20 season It was basketball that was a '21-22 penalty and they have since requested to make it a '20-21 penalty. Hope that clears it up for you, Raven. I wouldn't worry about anything APR-related to football and automatic bid shere.

The University has been approved to delay the men’s basketball postseason ban until the 2021-22 season, while football and baseball will serve their bans during the 2020-21 academic year.

[Raven Maniac]

FYI - you are speaking of the wrong sport.

Football was always supposed to be penalized for the '20 season It was basketball that was a '21-22 penalty and they have since requested to make it a '20-21 penalty. Hope that clears it up for you, Raven. I wouldn't worry about anything APR-related to football and automatic bid shere.

I was always talking football.


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[TexasTerror]

I was always talking football.

Football did not request a chance to their postseason ban (nor did baseball) and have thus, served it already.

Basketball was the only sport that requested it from the NCAA.

Again, non-issue and nothing to see here...

[Raven Maniac]

Football did not request a chance to their postseason ban (nor did baseball) and have thus, served it already.

Basketball was the only sport that requested it from the NCAA.

Again, non-issue and nothing to see here...

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought they had requested FB also thus my concern about having 6 teams for next fall.


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[TexasTerror]

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought they had requested FB also thus my concern about having 6 teams for next fall.

The WAC is likely not having an automatic bid in '21 unless the ASUN schools come over for a one-year schedule alliance as had been reported by Pete Thamel and somewhat 'debunked' by comments made by others. It seems something will give way because the ASUN schools unless they join the Big South for a year, will have the same predicament.

The WAC will file for a waiver and will get one in '22 when it has seven schools, albeit two that are in transition.