Time for an MVFC all-sports conference

[mvfcfan]

Current Conferences:

MVC

Illinois State
Indiana State
Missouri State
Northern Iowa
Southern Illinois

Bradley
Drake
Evansville
Loyola
Valparaiso

Summit

North Dakota
North Dakota State
South Dakota
South Dakota State
Western Illinois

Denver
Omaha
Oral Roberts
UMKC
*St Thomas

Seems simple to me. Every MVC football school is an improvement over any of the non-football SL schools in basketball. NDSU, SDSU, and USD are all improvements for the MVC football schools over schools like Drake, Evansville, and Valparaiso. I would also vouch for leaving out WIU (too many issues) and YSU (major outlier), and adding Murray State who would be a great basketball option. I think an all-sports MVFC with the 5 MVC publics, 4 Dakota schools, and Murray State would become one of the best mid-major conferences in the country in no time. The football would be just as good, the basketball would be really tough, and I think baseball would be pretty good as well. It just seems like a win win situation for all involved. I'd also make it a requirement for all future members to have scholarship football to be a full member.

NEW Conference (separated into travel partners)

North Dakota
North Dakota State

South Dakota State
South Dakota

Northern Iowa
Missouri State

Illinois State
Indiana State

Southern Illinois
Murray State

[TheKingpin28]

I only voted no for one reason in particular, I would want St Thomas (PFL) and another Olympic school. I'd love to see this but Murray State might want to go PFL football and bring along Omaha and UST, that would be more in line with what I'd be looking for. Gaining access to the Twin Cities would be a huge market boost and having Omaha (for baseball purposes) would be a nice market to tap into.

You would have the following sports covered with this outlook:

Baseball: 9 and then throw a bone to Oral Roberts to get to 10
Basketball: 12
Football: 9, 10, or 11
Softball: 12
Volleyball: 12
Wrestling: Still Big 12

[mvfcfan]

When Creighton and Wichita State left the only price they had to pay was that they didn't get their NCAA Tournament revenue. The MVC does not have an actual exit fee. Murray State would have to pay $500,000 to the OVC. I don't know what the Summit League's exit fee is or if there is one. I assume it's not much with all the schools that have bailed in the past.

[POD Knows]

I only voted no for one reason in particular, I would want St Thomas (PFL) and another Olympic school. I'd love to see this but Murray State might want to go PFL football and bring along Omaha and UST, that would be more in line with what I'd be looking for. Gaining access to the Twin Cities would be a huge market boost and having Omaha (for baseball purposes) would be a nice market to tap into.

You would have the following sports covered with this outlook:

Baseball: 9 and then throw a bone to Oral Roberts to get to 10
Basketball: 12
Football: 9, 10, or 11
Softball: 12
Volleyball: 12
Wrestling: Still Big 12

I voted yes, not real sure why other than it is a pure troll move directed at the BB snobs.

[clenz]

So you're asking MVC schools to trade basketball set ups of

Loyola for SDSU
Bradley for NDSU
Drake for USD
Evansville for UND

?

You want to trade a conference that is a top 10-11 league in the nation for one that would be lucky to get to top half.

Um...no. I mean, I want Evansville gone more than anyone else. I really do. Dear God do I hate sharing a conference with them. Getting rid of them isn't worth it.

[Mocs123]

Can we work up a scenario where we get NDSU a P5 spot so the rest of us have a shot!!!

[nodak651]

So you're asking MVC schools to trade basketball set ups of

Loyola for SDSU
Bradley for NDSU
Drake for USD
Evansville for UND

?

You want to trade a conference that is a top 10-11 league in the nation for one that would be lucky to get to top half.

Um...no. I mean, I want Evansville gone more than anyone else. I really do. Dear God do I hate sharing a conference with them. Getting rid of them isn't worth it.

You really think this conference would be that bad? It would have the MVC publics and almost all of the schools in the conference are large state schools with decent to great fan support, and if the conf tournament was in Sioux Falls it would already be an improvement from what the Valley currently has. UND could also play some games at the Ralph if required. I don't really care either way though, because I don't see this happening.

[Baron Sardonicus]

Have you MVFC people been at a (MVC school v. Dakota school) football game, and heard someone say, "I wish we played them in basketball"?

Or women's basketball...or baseball? Would think that might be a thing.

[Baron Sardonicus]

... I don't see this happening.

It would be radical, but very similar to what the ASun has planned with the United Athletic Conference. Except that while the ASun is searching for schools to be a part of its plan, the MVC and Summit schools are already there. Only a public/private school switch would be required.

If the schools involved could switch conferences without the usual TV revenue penalties, it could happen. Need to look at some type of waiver.

[TheKingpin28]

I voted yes, not real sure why other than it is a pure troll move directed at the BB snobs.