FCS Realignment

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Originally Posted by ST_Lawson

Louisville was never I-AA, were they? They played football in the MVC back when it sponsored football for a little bit, but that was before the I-A/I-AA split.

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Correct. Louisville was never I-AA.

The Missouri Valley Conference (MVC) sponsored I-A football until 1985 and included at various times: Louisville, Wichita State, Indiana State, New Mexico State, Cincinnati, Southern Illinois, North Texas, Tulsa, Illinois State, Drake, Memphis and West Texas State.

Not to be confused with the Missouri Valley FOOTBALL Conference, which emerged from the Gateway Conference. Founded in 1985, the same year that the I-A MVC folded.

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Originally Posted by DFW HOYA

Three factors:

1. Institutional brand improvement. With the exception of Liberty, every one of the upgrades came from publicly funded universities; and in the majority of cases, publicly funded universities below that of the state flagships (e.g., the second tier schools). Moving to FBS elevated these schools within their state, within their state legislature (in terms of funding), and elevated its admissions posture in a period of declining high school graduate numbers.

2. Financial opportunity. Even the lowest FBS conference earns more in TV and post-season revenue than the best FCS conference. Having a seat at the FBS level also elevates these school to increased NCAA payouts vs. an FCS or I-AAA (non-football) school. And if there's a 2(a), it's that bowl exposure and revenue, even at the lesser bowls, far exceeds any playoff participation.

3. Access to better talent. FBS schools have, especially in football but across most sports, a brand cachet that attracts higher quality student athlete prospects that what would be available in FCS.

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Is that why the Sun Belt has been in the NCAA Play-in game as one of the four worst conferences multiple times over the last few years? Is that why a team from the Sun Belt has NEVER won an national championship in ANY Sport?

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Originally Posted by dbackjon

Is that why the Sun Belt has been in the NCAA Play-in game as one of the four worst conferences multiple times over the last few years? Is that why a team from the Sun Belt has NEVER won an national championship in ANY Sport?

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Wasn’t Coastal Carolina a member of the Sun Belt when they won the College World Series?


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Originally Posted by acbearkat

Wasn’t Coastal Carolina a member of the Sun Belt when they won the College World Series?


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Nope - Big South. They joined the Sun Belt the next season.

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Originally Posted by Sitting Bull

You also have Idaho, UMass, ULM and ODU.

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Once again, at least UMass is in the public eye. More than you can say for any east coast FCS school bar James Madison and maybe Harvard-Yale.

ODU also had their huge upset of VT in a down year and one successful season with decent prospects. Not sure how they would do in the Sun Belt East, but it's all former FCS teams! Someone's bound to get beat by the others who are turning themselves into G5 powers. Probably a tick ahead of Georgia State, but those are the basketball schools, who can occasionally field a good football team.

No argument on Idaho and ULM who should be FCS. Idaho had the cool stadium, but I think I hear more about it with them at FCS than I ever did before. ULM has absolutely nothing going for it.

[QUOTE=acbearkat;3004913]Wasn’t Coastal Carolina a member of the Sun Belt when they won the College World Series?


IN 2016 COLLEGE WORLD SERIES:

NO...BIG SOUTH.....BUT HOURS AFTER DEFEATING ARIZONA 2 GAMES TA ONE THEY OFFICIALLY JOINED THE SUNBELT....PER WIKIPEDIA.........BRAWK!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coasta...leers_baseball

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Originally Posted by acbearkat

Wasn’t Coastal Carolina a member of the Sun Belt when they won the College World Series?


IN 2016 COLLEGE WORLD SERIES:

NO...BIG SOUTH.....BUT HOURS AFTER DEFEATING ARIZONA 2 GAMES TA ONE THEY OFFICIALLY JOINED THE SUNBELT....PER WIKIPEDIA.........BRAWK!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coasta...leers_baseball

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And results have gone backwards since joining the Sun Belt...

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Originally Posted by NY Crusader 2010

The Missouri Valley Conference (MVC) sponsored I-A football until 1985 and included at various times: Louisville, Wichita State, Indiana State, New Mexico State, Cincinnati, Southern Illinois, North Texas, Tulsa, Illinois State, Drake, Memphis and West Texas State.

Not to be confused with the Missouri Valley FOOTBALL Conference, which emerged from the Gateway Conference. Founded in 1985, the same year that the I-A MVC folded.

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This is exactly why the MVC holds the same clause that the WAC does. If the MVC were to ever restart football, it could go straight to FBS.

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Originally Posted by smilo

Once again, at least UMass is in the public eye. More than you can say for any east coast FCS school bar James Madison and maybe Harvard-Yale.

ODU also had their huge upset of VT in a down year and one successful season with decent prospects. Not sure how they would do in the Sun Belt East, but it's all former FCS teams! Someone's bound to get beat by the others who are turning themselves into G5 powers. Probably a tick ahead of Georgia State, but those are the basketball schools, who can occasionally field a good football team.

No argument on Idaho and ULM who should be FCS. Idaho had the cool stadium, but I think I hear more about it with them at FCS than I ever did before. ULM has absolutely nothing going for it.

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My issue with ODU was the impact their football move had on their other programs, particularly men’s and women’s basketball. That was ODUs sweet spot and the move to CUSA killed them. No win over Virginia Tech is going to make-up for the price the rest of the their athletic department had to pay for the move.

And in football, ODU was selling out every game while in the CAA, 20,000 per game. Today they are pulling in about 17,000 avg against G5 opponents. Not sure how that pays off.