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August 9th, 2006, 01:19 AM
umassfan

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Originally Posted by 89Hen

If that were the case I would have put you #1. I put you three because your fans think you are going to be 9-2 every year and are amazed when you don't make the playoffs. I'm certainly not alone in finding UMass fans to be quite arguementative toward any negative comments about UMass. If somebody say, boy Ricky Santos is an awsome QB, your first response is, well you should see Coen (or Day or whomever your flavor of the year may be). xcoffeex

Ehh whatever... enjoy your 6-5 season again this year.
August 9th, 2006, 01:31 AM
blukeys

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Originally Posted by umassfan

Ehh whatever... enjoy your 6-5 season again this year.

Gosh with all the question marks we have, we will be damned lucky to get to 6-5. :rolleyes: I just hope we will be fortunate enough to put a representative team on the field that doesn't embarass us. We have some very tough tests early on and that will go a long way to see how we do. Our kids are soooooo Young that it will be difficult to stand up to the week to week pounding one gets in the A-10. We all know how great Umass is and we can only hope to come close to their accomplishments. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

(No sandbagging at all:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: )
August 9th, 2006, 01:31 AM
TXST_CAT

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Originally Posted by Mr. C

In Texas State's case, the Bobcats lost the bulk of their squad that went to the semifinals last year. including All-Americans Barrick Nealy at QB and Fred Evans at DL. Last year was the first Southland Conference championship ever for the Bobcats, so most people think they will be rebuilding this year.

We have plenty of returning talent and experience on the team. Those who follow the Bobcats see this year as reloading not rebuilding. But we don't mind the polls because it when it is all said and done the best teams will rise and the rest... well you kow.
August 9th, 2006, 09:22 AM
blackfordpu

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Originally Posted by TXST_CAT

We have plenty of returning talent and experience on the team. Those who follow the Bobcats see this year as reloading not rebuilding. But we don't mind the polls because it when it is all said and done the best teams will rise and the rest... well you kow.

You lost 28 players, almost half of last seasons team.
August 9th, 2006, 09:33 AM
DTSpider

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Originally Posted by blukeys

They whine and complain about their chances the way Tubby Raymond did in his prime.

After listening to Tubby & Jim Reid discuss upcoming UR-UD matchups you'd get the impression either team would be lucky to even make it to the stadium, let alone have a chance of winning.
August 9th, 2006, 10:34 AM
89Hen

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Originally Posted by blukeys

whine and complain about their chances the way Tubby Raymond did in his prime.

That's true, we learned it from the king. Amazing any of his teams ever won a game. :p
August 9th, 2006, 10:39 AM
89Hen

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Originally Posted by umassfan

Ehh whatever... enjoy your 6-5 season again this year.

If that's what we are, we'll enjoy it. All 22,000+ every week. However, anything short of an 11-0 season with your entire starting team on the All-A10 Team would fall short of your expectations and then you can blame the 4,200 in attendance on the wind. xlolx
August 9th, 2006, 10:40 AM
89Hen

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Originally Posted by DTSpider

After listening to Tubby & Jim Reid discuss upcoming UR-UD matchups you'd get the impression either team would be lucky to even make it to the stadium, let alone have a chance of winning.

xlolx :nod: Good call. Classic sandbagging battles between them.
August 9th, 2006, 10:51 AM
GeauxLions94

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Originally Posted by McNeese75

And the Lions will melt into the sunset as they have the last two years :nod:

IF we melt in the sunset, at least we'll have spanked the Cowboys again ;)
August 9th, 2006, 12:04 PM
mikebigg

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Originally Posted by Mr. C

In Texas State's case, the Bobcats lost the bulk of their squad that went to the semifinals last year. including All-Americans Barrick Nealy at QB and Fred Evans at DL. Last year was the first Southland Conference championship ever for the Bobcats, so most people think they will be rebuilding this year.

Hampton has some good talent back, but a lot of voters were probably less than impressed with the way the Pirates playes in the playoffs last year. The MEAC hasn't won a playoff game since 1999, so Hampton probably has to prove itself again this year (with a pretty weak schedule again after the opener against Grambling).

Grambling is likely suffering in support because of the graduation of Bruce Eugene. Even though some people know that the Tigers are in pretty good shape at QB, a lot don't remember that your QB came in for Eugene two years ago when Eugene suffered a season-ending knee injury in the opening game. A win over Hampton would go a long way to giving the Tigers a boost in the poll.

In my mind, the poll isn't about how many games you won last year, but what you have coming back this season. There are also teams that get votes because they are traditionally strong. Personally, I can't see why anyone would rank teams like Georgia Southern, Southern Illinois and Texas State, with all of the questions these schools have.

Response: Ok, so other teams didn't lose players? With all due respect to the defending nat'l champs, App State...they lost Ritchie Williams who was their offensive catalyst and team leader and also Hunter, their defensive leader. Both playing pro ball or in camps. They deserve the respect of being ranked #1, but TxState deserves top 10 rankings. They made the playoffs and advanced LAST year which is more recent than some of the teams ranked ahead of them. Did Delaware and McNeese win playoff games last year? Has McNeese been in the playoffs in the past 3 seasons? Didn't they get beaten two years straight by conference member SLU? No knock on McNeese's program, but what about recent history? That's the standard you hold Grambling too. We lost to McNeese when they were heavily ranked but outside of them, we haven't lost to a 1AA since. We get criticized for our schedule but we have quality teams in our conference... check out how many you have ranked in the "others" category. At least you recognize that they are good programs. But doesn't Grambling have some players who are pre-season all-conference and all-american. Didn't 16 or these same guys not start on last year's 11 win season?

But at least it was good for conversation and dialogue. But I will leave you with this. The polls really don't matter because the championship is decided on the field. That's cool. But as I analyzed the rankings, I couldn't help but smh after the top 3. The hardest to justify being McNeese and Delaware. Two good programs but that's a serious jump for two teams that lost 4 games each and who did not participate in the playoffs. As Jafus would say: " Interesting!"
August 9th, 2006, 01:12 PM
Catmendue2

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Originally Posted by mikebigg

Response: Ok, so other teams didn't lose players? With all due respect to the defending nat'l champs, App State...they lost Ritchie Williams who was their offensive catalyst and team leader and also Hunter, their defensive leader. Both playing pro ball or in camps. They deserve the respect of being ranked #1, but TxState deserves top 10 rankings. They made the playoffs and advanced LAST year which is more recent than some of the teams ranked ahead of them. Did Delaware and McNeese win playoff games last year? Has McNeese been in the playoffs in the past 3 seasons? Didn't they get beaten two years straight by conference member SLU? No knock on McNeese's program, but what about recent history? That's the standard you hold Grambling too. We lost to McNeese when they were heavily ranked but outside of them, we haven't lost to a 1AA since. We get criticized for our schedule but we have quality teams in our conference... check out how many you have ranked in the "others" category. At least you recognize that they are good programs. But doesn't Grambling have some players who are pre-season all-conference and all-american. Didn't 16 or these same guys not start on last year's 11 win season?

But at least it was good for conversation and dialogue. But I will leave you with this. The polls really don't matter because the championship is decided on the field. That's cool. But as I analyzed the rankings, I couldn't help but smh after the top 3. The hardest to justify being McNeese and Delaware. Two good programs but that's a serious jump for two teams that lost 4 games each and who did not participate in the playoffs. As Jafus would say: " Interesting!"

Excellent analysis, answer please.:hurray:
August 9th, 2006, 01:25 PM
Catmendue2

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Originally Posted by AppGuy04

great analysis C, I agree on all points. Honestly, Grambling losing Bruce is the reason I have them ranked below Southern this year.

Yes, losing Bruce was bad but finishing 11th in the country with Bruce and 11-1 record was as bad as it gets anywho. This polls has about as much validity and knowledge about what's left at Grambling, as it does about ranking SouthernU ahead of Grambling.
August 9th, 2006, 01:26 PM
89Hen

2002-2005

Grambling with Bruce Eugene 31-6
Grambling without Bruce Eugene 6-5
August 9th, 2006, 01:40 PM
Catmendue2

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Originally Posted by 89Hen

2002-2005

Grambling with Bruce Eugene 31-6
Grambling without Bruce Eugene 6-5

I think the three years prior to Bruce might have been better. The year Bruce got hurt Grambling lost 1/3 of its starting offense to injuries, plus many of its backup were missing too. That was not Landers fault leaving HS and right in to the fire. Grambling would not have been as good last year without Landers play in 2004, even with Bruce.
August 9th, 2006, 02:01 PM
MACHIAVELLI

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Originally Posted by mikebigg

Response: Ok, so other teams didn't lose players? With all due respect to the defending nat'l champs, App State...they lost Ritchie Williams who was their offensive catalyst and team leader and also Hunter, their defensive leader. Both playing pro ball or in camps. They deserve the respect of being ranked #1, but TxState deserves top 10 rankings. They made the playoffs and advanced LAST year which is more recent than some of the teams ranked ahead of them. Did Delaware and McNeese win playoff games last year? Has McNeese been in the playoffs in the past 3 seasons? Didn't they get beaten two years straight by conference member SLU? No knock on McNeese's program, but what about recent history? That's the standard you hold Grambling too. We lost to McNeese when they were heavily ranked but outside of them, we haven't lost to a 1AA since. We get criticized for our schedule but we have quality teams in our conference... check out how many you have ranked in the "others" category. At least you recognize that they are good programs. But doesn't Grambling have some players who are pre-season all-conference and all-american. Didn't 16 or these same guys not start on last year's 11 win season?

But at least it was good for conversation and dialogue. But I will leave you with this. The polls really don't matter because the championship is decided on the field. That's cool. But as I analyzed the rankings, I couldn't help but smh after the top 3. The hardest to justify being McNeese and Delaware. Two good programs but that's a serious jump for two teams that lost 4 games each and who did not participate in the playoffs. As Jafus would say: " Interesting!"

It's like your reading my mind.
August 9th, 2006, 02:03 PM
Lionsrking

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Originally Posted by GeauxLions94

IF we melt in the sunset, at least we'll have spanked the Cowboys again ;)

And I would much rather "melt in the sunset" than ride side saddle into it like some Cowboys we know. :) :)
August 9th, 2006, 02:07 PM
MACHIAVELLI

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Originally Posted by mikebigg

Response: Ok, so other teams didn't lose players? With all due respect to the defending nat'l champs, App State...they lost Ritchie Williams who was their offensive catalyst and team leader and also Hunter, their defensive leader. Both playing pro ball or in camps. They deserve the respect of being ranked #1, but TxState deserves top 10 rankings. They made the playoffs and advanced LAST year which is more recent than some of the teams ranked ahead of them. Did Delaware and McNeese win playoff games last year? Has McNeese been in the playoffs in the past 3 seasons? Didn't they get beaten two years straight by conference member SLU? No knock on McNeese's program, but what about recent history? That's the standard you hold Grambling too. We lost to McNeese when they were heavily ranked but outside of them, we haven't lost to a 1AA since. We get criticized for our schedule but we have quality teams in our conference... check out how many you have ranked in the "others" category. At least you recognize that they are good programs. But doesn't Grambling have some players who are pre-season all-conference and all-american. Didn't 16 or these same guys not start on last year's 11 win season?

But at least it was good for conversation and dialogue. But I will leave you with this. The polls really don't matter because the championship is decided on the field. That's cool. But as I analyzed the rankings, I couldn't help but smh after the top 3. The hardest to justify being McNeese and Delaware. Two good programs but that's a serious jump for two teams that lost 4 games each and who did not participate in the playoffs. As Jafus would say: " Interesting!"

It's like your reading my mind.
August 9th, 2006, 02:07 PM
MACHIAVELLI

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August 9th, 2006, 02:20 PM
GeauxColonels

Yeah, I really don't understand all the hype around McNeese either. I mean, traditionally, the program is at the top of the SLC and pretty high up in I-AA; however, the last few years haven't been your daddy's typical Cowboy squad. While I think they will be improved over last season and have a legitimate shot at winning the SLC, I don't think they deserve such a high ranking....not just yet. Make them prove it on the field first before you kiss their ass. :mad:

I don't buy into this, but I would be willing to bet that there are many pollsters out there that are giving McNeese State a "mulligan" for last year due to what happenned with Hurricane Rita and are completely writing off last season as a fluke. : smh :
August 9th, 2006, 03:31 PM
Grizzaholic

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Originally Posted by Tailbone

Ha! Virtually every Griz fan who has commented on this year's ranking has felt that the Griz were ranked too high.

Of course, it's hard to be guilty of overestimation when the Griz have been to 5 NC games in 10 years! :)

And 13 straight playoff showings!!:thumbsup:
August 9th, 2006, 03:48 PM
89Hen

Where's that Mac Davis song when you need it? :smiley_wi
August 9th, 2006, 04:53 PM
GeauxLions94

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Originally Posted by GeauxColonels

traditionally, the program is at the top of the SLC and pretty high up in I-AA; however, the last few years haven't been your daddy's typical Cowboy squad. While I think they will be improved over last season and have a legitimate shot at winning the SLC, I don't think they deserve such a high ranking....not just yet. Make them prove it on the field first before you kiss their ass. :mad:

:hurray: That was my point from the beginning GC.
August 9th, 2006, 04:59 PM
Cap'n Cat

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Originally Posted by Grizzaholic

And 13 straight playoff showings!!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by 89Hen

Where's that Mac Davis song when you need it? :smiley_wi

The one about belonging to a one-team conference?

xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx
August 9th, 2006, 05:18 PM
McNeeserocket

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Originally Posted by GeauxColonels

Yeah, I really don't understand all the hype around McNeese either. I mean, traditionally, the program is at the top of the SLC and pretty high up in I-AA; however, the last few years haven't been your daddy's typical Cowboy squad. While I think they will be improved over last season and have a legitimate shot at winning the SLC, I don't think they deserve such a high ranking....not just yet. Make them prove it on the field first before you kiss their ass. :mad:

I don't buy into this, but I would be willing to bet that there are many pollsters out there that are giving McNeese State a "mulligan" for last year due to what happenned with Hurricane Rita and are completely writing off last season as a fluke. : smh :

Since McNeese didn't ask for the ranking, doesn't care about the ranking, and isn't worried about the ranking, it sure sounds like sour grapes from teams that McNeese recently lost to, but also had beaten handily in the not so distant past (in 2001, 2002 and 2003 only lost one conference game). 2004, McNeese struggled with no excuses other than very young team (still managed to beat Nicholls). 2005 was a year that most people, including most respected I-AA gurus, say cannot be used as a indication of anything after the affects of two major hurricanes.

2006, barring other major disasters, should show if McNeese's program can regain some momentum back. 2006 may also show that some people need to study the meaning of humility. SO GET OFF OUR ASS, AND SAVE IT FOR THE FIELD!
August 9th, 2006, 05:37 PM
McNeese75

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Originally Posted by mikebigg

We lost to McNeese when they were heavily ranked but outside of them, we haven't lost to a 1AA since.

And you have not played a I-AA team anywhere near the quality of those McNeese teams either. :cool:
August 9th, 2006, 05:43 PM
McNeese75

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Originally Posted by McNeeserocket

Since McNeese didn't ask for the ranking, doesn't care about the ranking, and isn't worried about the ranking, it sure sounds like sour grapes from teams that McNeese recently lost to, but also had beaten handily in the not so distant past (in 2001, 2002 and 2003 only lost one conference game). 2004, McNeese struggled with no excuses other than very young team (still managed to beat Nicholls). 2005 was a year that most people, including most respected I-AA gurus, say cannot be used as a indication of anything after the affects of two major hurricanes.

2006, barring other major disasters, should show if McNeese's program can regain some momentum back. 2006 may also show that some people need to study the meaning of humility. SO GET OFF OUR ASS, AND SAVE IT FOR THE FIELD!

:thumbsup:

The Polls mean nothing at this time of the year. If the Pokes deserve such lofty status they will earn it on the field, if not, then they will disappear.

Lion and Colonel fans be sure and bring all this bravado and "Hating" :D to the Hole when you visit this year. Based on what I am reading and hearing about practice this week, I think we will be up to the task of at least providing a little competiton for your Excellent High Flying Renown Teams :nod:

xcoffeex
August 9th, 2006, 05:43 PM
GeauxColonels

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Originally Posted by McNeeserocket

Since McNeese didn't ask for the ranking, doesn't care about the ranking, and isn't worried about the ranking, it sure sounds like sour grapes from teams that McNeese recently lost to, but also had beaten handily in the not so distant past (in 2001, 2002 and 2003 only lost one conference game). 2004, McNeese struggled with no excuses other than very young team (still managed to beat Nicholls). 2005 was a year that most people, including most respected I-AA gurus, say cannot be used as a indication of anything after the affects of two major hurricanes.

2006, barring other major disasters, should show if McNeese's program can regain some momentum back. 2006 may also show that some people need to study the meaning of humility. SO GET OFF OUR ASS, AND SAVE IT FOR THE FIELD!

Sounds like someone's getting mad. :nod:

That's right, McNeese did beat Nicholls in 2004...AND?! This is 2006: a completely different season. ANYONE can win the SLC title, even SFA......:lmao: OK, so I couldn't keep a straight face on that one.

As for sour grapes...give me a break! I was just making a statement that, for a team that didn't fair very well in 2005, they are ranked rather high in the preseason poll. We ALL know that McNeese had nothing to do with the ranking, we're just trying to analyze the thought process that some pollsters use. If McNeese goes through 2006 with a strong season and wins the SLC title, good for them...the pollsters would then be right. I just find it difficult to rank ANY team in McNeese's position, regardless of who they are and what they USED to do on the field, that high to start the season off. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be ranked in the top-25, they are easily one of the top 25 teams in the country in almost any given year, I just think they should start lower this year.

Even forgetting about 2005, they didn't do very well in 2004. I'm just pointing out that other schools would not get such a high ranking to start the season after 2 years like McNeese just had.

Win or lose....I'll still hate McNeese; just like always.:twocents:
August 9th, 2006, 05:53 PM
GeauxColonels

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Originally Posted by McNeese75

:thumbsup:

The Polls mean nothing at this time of the year. If the Pokes deserve such lofty status they will earn it on the field, if not, then they will disappear.

Lion and Colonel fans be sure and bring all this bravado and "Hating" :D to the Hole when you visit this year. Based on what I am reading and hearing about practice this week, I think we will be up to the task of at least providing a little competiton for your Excellent High Flying Renown Teams :nod:

xcoffeex

Bravado...no
Hating...always :nod:

Go back and read my posts...not once have I claimed that Nicholls State has the better team/program than McNeese, not once have I claimed that the Colonels should be ranked ahead of the Cowboys. I'm just excited that we're in the poll despite the MANY question marks we have and, personally, I'm not sold on this being SLU's year either.

MY statements were just to adress the fact that I believe they are ranked too high to START the season. I'm not even saying that McNeese won't be in the top 11 at year end. Hell, they could get to the playoffs after winning the SLC and possibly a NC game appearance - I don't know. What I do know is that, in MY OPINION, they are ranked too high to start the season.
August 9th, 2006, 05:58 PM
mikebigg

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Originally Posted by McNeese75

And you have not played a I-AA team anywhere near the quality of those McNeese teams either. :cool:

I can't tell from your past two year record... But you are taking this as smack or a slam of McNeese. It's really not. I just don't think that a team that is coming off two subpar seasons both finishing unranked should be ranked #5 in the country. So if you want, take Grambling out of the rankings all together. Now tell me... does McNeese warrant a #5 ranking? What's the justification?!?
August 9th, 2006, 06:02 PM
McNeese75

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Originally Posted by GeauxColonels

Bravado...no
Hating...always :nod:

Go back and read my posts...not once have I claimed that Nicholls State has the better team/program than McNeese, not once have I claimed that the Colonels should be ranked ahead of the Cowboys. I'm just excited that we're in the poll despite the MANY question marks we have and, personally, I'm not sold on this being SLU's year either.

MY statements were just to adress the fact that I believe they are ranked too high to START the season. I'm not even saying that McNeese won't be in the top 11 at year end. Hell, they could get to the playoffs after winning the SLC and possibly a NC game appearance - I don't know. What I do know is that, in MY OPINION, they are ranked too high to start the season.

:D :thumbsup:
August 9th, 2006, 06:08 PM
McNeese75

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikebigg

I can't tell from your past two year record... But you are taking this as smack or a slam of McNeese. It's really not. I just don't think that a team that is coming off two subpar seasons both finishing unranked should be ranked #5 in the country. So if you want, take Grambling out of the rankings all together. Now tell me... does McNeese warrant a #5 ranking? What's the justification?!?

:confused:Mike, where is McNeese ranked #5?? The highest I have seen is #11 and as I mentioned previously all preseaon polls are fun but not worth the keystrokes used to create them.

So to annswer your question, NO, McNeese does not warrant a #5 ranking in any poll other than possibly the SLC poll.
August 9th, 2006, 06:48 PM
McNeeserocket

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikebigg

Response: Ok, so other teams didn't lose players? With all due respect to the defending nat'l champs, App State...they lost Ritchie Williams who was their offensive catalyst and team leader and also Hunter, their defensive leader. Both playing pro ball or in camps. They deserve the respect of being ranked #1, but TxState deserves top 10 rankings. They made the playoffs and advanced LAST year which is more recent than some of the teams ranked ahead of them. Did Delaware and McNeese win playoff games last year? Has McNeese been in the playoffs in the past 3 seasons? Didn't they get beaten two years straight by conference member SLU? No knock on McNeese's program, but what about recent history? That's the standard you hold Grambling too. We lost to McNeese when they were heavily ranked but outside of them, we haven't lost to a 1AA since. We get criticized for our schedule but we have quality teams in our conference... check out how many you have ranked in the "others" category. At least you recognize that they are good programs. But doesn't Grambling have some players who are pre-season all-conference and all-american. Didn't 16 or these same guys not start on last year's 11 win season?

But at least it was good for conversation and dialogue. But I will leave you with this. The polls really don't matter because the championship is decided on the field. That's cool. But as I analyzed the rankings, I couldn't help but smh after the top 3. The hardest to justify being McNeese and Delaware. Two good programs but that's a serious jump for two teams that lost 4 games each and who did not participate in the playoffs. As Jafus would say: " Interesting!"

I for one am a real fan of Grambling. I think you have a good program and you step up to the plate to play football against anyone. My memories of the McNeese - Grambling series is a great one for your team, facilities and your great fans. I would love to continue this rivalry.

As I said before, McNeese didn't ask to be in rankings and doesn't care about the rankings. Yes McNeese was in the playoffs within the last three years as they were in the playoffs in 2003, having a record of 10-2 that year.

Remember, that some pollsters don't rank teams merely on what they did last year. In the case of Texas State, the reason they are not ranked any higher, despite their accomplishments last year, is because they lost 28 players from that team, including their highly touted quarterback. They are not ranked because they will have few returning players with any or much experience. On the flip side of this are teams like McNeese and perhaps Delaware (don't know much about their team last year or this coming year). McNeese lost very few of their players and are returning most of their defense and offense. Now you might say that could be bad if McNeese was bad last year because if they are returning most of their bad team then they could/would be bad again (although no one really knows how bad or good McNeese was last year because of the turmoil from both hurricanes). However, returning a lot of experienced players is generally considered a good thing because the returning players know the offensive and defensive schemes and some lack of talent can be offset by experience.

So my guess is (because no one knows how teams get ranked) that McNeese got ranked #11 in the aforementioned poll because of the # of returning starters McNeese has and perhaps on the weight of talent that McNeese appears to have (at least on paper). Perhaps there was a point or two given by some for the pity factor, but those points did not amount to enough to give McNeese a #11 ranking.

My objection with all the talk from some SELA fans and Texas State fans is they want to say how great they are because they beat McNeese and that it proves that they now own McNeese. Until a longer history of such supposed domination is recorded, I feel that they are overly impressed with themselves and do it by not showing evidence of such greatness in their own team but rather by stating over and over how great they must be because they beat McNeese two years in a row. Those losses are acknowledgeed by McNeese, and we gave them their due. Now, prove to McNeese and the rest of the world that you can beat lots of good teams year in and year out for a prolonged period of time. Then and only then will the rest of I-AA be as impressed with them as they are with themselves.
August 9th, 2006, 07:10 PM
mikebigg

Understand me well... I have nothing against McNeese. It may seem that I'm picking on McNeese but actually I'm pointing out that some teams rankings may be based on familiarity...that's not how it should be. I have been posting #5, but I think McNeese was actually #11 or so. Still kinda high! I was trying to show that reputation has too much of an influence in these polls.

I think yall will rebound and challenge for the SLC...if not Tate might be in trouble. On a side note...hope to see yall on the field real soon.
August 9th, 2006, 07:27 PM
golionsgo

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Originally Posted by McNeeserocket

My objection with all the talk from some SELA fans and Texas State fans is they want to say how great they are because they beat McNeese and that it proves that they now own McNeese. Until a longer history of such supposed domination is recorded, I feel that they are overly impressed with themselves and do it by not showing evidence of such greatness in their own team but rather by stating over and over how great they must be because they beat McNeese two years in a row. Those losses are acknowledgeed by McNeese, and we gave them their due. Now, prove to McNeese and the rest of the world that you can beat lots of good teams year in and year out for a prolonged period of time. Then and only then will the rest of I-AA be as impressed with them as they are with themselves.

It has nothing to do with us being impressed with ourselves, it has to do with not being impressed with McNeese.
August 9th, 2006, 07:27 PM
GrizzlyEdd

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Originally Posted by Cap'n Cat

The one about belonging to a one-team conference?

xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

Cap'n.... I am truely amazed by this statement:eyebrow: since Eastern Washington went to SIU and beat up on the then #1 team. Also, if memory servers me right, an underrated Northern Arizona beat the then #1 team McNeese... both games in the playoffs...

Next time you are in Missoula at Paradise Falls, I am going to spike your moose drool....:nod::p;)
August 9th, 2006, 08:35 PM
SO ILLmatic

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyEdd

since Eastern Washington went to SIU and beat up on the then #1 team.

I dont know if 4 points qualifies as a beat down...
August 9th, 2006, 09:13 PM
blukeys

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Originally Posted by SO ILLmatic

I dont know if 4 points qualifies as a beat down...

I question SIU as being ranked as a number one team. OVERRATED in my book.
August 9th, 2006, 09:18 PM
Tod

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Originally Posted by blukeys

I question SIU as being ranked as a number one team. OVERRATED in my book.

Of course you do. Helps with your "Big Sky sucks" idea. Now, if Delaware had beaten them, we'd hear about it non-stop from our good friend blukeys...:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
August 9th, 2006, 09:55 PM
TxState_GO_CATS!

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Originally Posted by golionsgo

It has nothing to do with us being impressed with ourselves, it has to do with not being impressed with McNeese.

EXACTLY! it has very little to do with us "being impressed with ourselves." even mcneese fans can't be impressed/satisfied with the results the last few years. from a program that prides itself on being in the playoffs every year, the last few years have had to be painful.:twocents:
August 9th, 2006, 09:57 PM
GeauxColonels

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Originally Posted by McNeese75

:confused:Mike, where is McNeese ranked #5?? The highest I have seen is #11 and as I mentioned previously all preseaon polls are fun but not worth the keystrokes used to create them.

So to annswer your question, NO, McNeese does not warrant a #5 ranking in any poll other than possibly the SLC poll.

Yeah, I was wondering about that too. I've seen #11, not #5. :confused:

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