Re: Rivalries: What is your preferred competition level?
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Preferred Walk-On
It isn't just about beating down UND, it is about beating down a GOOD UND. I'm fine with the beatdown, just doesn't mean much (at least to me) if they suck. I don't want them to just be a proximity rival.
Why does UND have to be "good" for it to be a good rivalry?
The Bison could win the next 16 head/head games and win 16 titles and UND rubes would say...." at least we have the better head/head record"........THAT is a true rivalry!!
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GFCC going 0-11and getting curbed stomped by the Bison is a good year.
GFCC going 0-11, getting curbed stomped by the Bison, and beating SDSU is a great year.
GFCC going 0-11, getting curbed stomped by the Bison, beating SDSU, and winning the Natty, priceless.
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As much as I love to taunt the Mocs fans I truly hope they come into our place swinging this season. My favorite games since I've been at JSU are our games with UTC in 2014 and 2015, not because we won, but because they were REALLY damn good football games.... But also because we won. :D
Re: Rivalries: What is your preferred competition level?
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Bison Fan in NW MN
Why does UND have to be "good" for it to be a good rivalry?
The Bison could win the next 16 head/head games and win 16 titles and UND rubes would say...." at least we have the better head/head record"........THAT is a true rivalry!!
Fine, I guess the Bison could just be bad to generate parity, although this is definitely not my preferred method to have a good rivalry.
I won't argue the validity of your second part, other than to say that if it were the opposite direction (Bizarro world), the 0-16 NDSU rubes would do the same thing. Now, I doubt very much that it will be the opposite, but I do know that every team has rubes. IMO, that doesn't make it a rivalry, that just makes those people sound stupid. Also, you forgot that those particular rubes would also point out the illegitimacy of/make excuses for each of the 16 wins and championships, just sayin'.:D
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TheKingpin28
GFCC going 0-11and getting curbed stomped by the Bison is a good year.
GFCC going 0-11, getting curbed stomped by the Bison, and beating SDSU is a great year.
GFCC going 0-11, getting curbed stomped by the Bison, beating SDSU, and winning the Natty, priceless.
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You realize that GFCC is the subject of those sentences? :D
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Quick, name your favorite non-proximity rivalry. Now, why is it a rivalry?
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SDSU is the perfect rival. Competitive but always behind the shadow.
Re: Rivalries: What is your preferred competition level?
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Model Citizen
Rivalries, over the long term, need to be tightly contested. It does not matter whether the game is played for first place or last place.
Rivalries are also characterized by respect between the two schools. Respect is different than affection.
Rivalries are tough to come by in a football only league. However, I'm anticipating an eventual PFL rivalry between Augustana and Valparaiso. Lutherpalooza.
Valpo is a basketball school and I'm not sure how much interest the football team draws. I would guess that there would be more interest on campus and with parents in a game against Augustana College than one against Augustana University.
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Re: Rivalries: What is your preferred competition level?
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Preferred Walk-On
Quick, name your favorite non-proximity rivalry. Now, why is it a rivalry?
I suppose UND and SDSU are proximity rivals.
Non?
I guess besides UNI, the only other conference teams that really move the needle for me are YSU and ILL State.
Not sure if we have an OOC rival.
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Preferred Walk-On
I can appreciate the sentiment, and I appreciate the post.
Hey, I want the Bison to go undefeated as well (or at the worst, take a loss during the regular season that grounds them but does not affect seeding much). If UND is 0-11 every year, and the Bison 11-0, is there even a point to this matchup, other than saying they can beat up on a weaker kid? With the Bison fans (and certainly FCS fans) being tired of watching blowouts (see attendance figures, especially for playoffs), the scenario proposed above for a good NDSU team playing a non-competitive UND team becomes exactly what many fans are complaining about. My opinion is simply that disparity between rivals makes for a crappy (or at least uninteresting) rivalry, and parity makes for better rivalries.
Who the hell says they should be our rival, beat them to dust, reduce their presence in the division and get rid of them. Answer me this, if you asked a coach for the Bison if they would prefer "parity" with that school from the north and the Bison coach answered, "well, shucks, yea, we want them to be good so we can play competitive games against them", that Bison coach should have his ass handed to him and ran out of town. The correct answer is that the Bison should beat them by 40 every year until they cancel their ****ing program like they did with women's hockey.