Re: Augustana SD discussing moving to D1, possibly joining Pioneer
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Model Citizen
If U. St. Thomas were to move to D-II, then to D-I, what would be their minimum timeframe to achieve D-I membership?
In ice hockey, they could play in D1 as soon as they are in D2. There is no recognized D2 championship in ice hockey so all D2 schools are able to play in D1.
For other sports (football) it would be harder as they would have to be in good standing in D2 first and if they had D1 ambitions a D2 conference would be less likely to take them.
Re: Augustana SD discussing moving to D1, possibly joining Pioneer
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Pinnum
In ice hockey, they could play in D1 as soon as they are in D2. There is no recognized D2 championship in ice hockey so all D2 schools are able to play in D1.
For other sports (football) it would be harder as they would have to be in good standing in D2 first and if they had D1 ambitions a D2 conference would be less likely to take them.
Which is kind of interesting because there are a handful of D2 schools with hockey that play D3 schedules, but are ineligable for the playoffs.
Re: Augustana SD discussing moving to D1, possibly joining Pioneer
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nodak651
Which is kind of interesting because there are a handful of D2 schools with hockey that play D3 schedules, but are ineligable for the playoffs.
I think these are the D2 teams-
AssumptionFranklin Pierce
Saint Anselm
Saint Michael's
Southern NH
Stonehill
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Re: Augustana SD discussing moving to D1, possibly joining Pioneer
How many D1 hockey teams are D2 in everything else?
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Re: Augustana SD discussing moving to D1, possibly joining Pioneer
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dgtw
How many D1 hockey teams are D2 in everything else?
14. It was 15 this year but one is moving up.
Alabama Huntsville
Alaska-Anchorage
Alaska-Fairbanks
American International
Bemidji State
Bentley
Ferris State
Lake Superior State
Mercyhurst
Michigan Tech
Minnesota-Duluth
Minnesota State Mankato
Northern Michigan
St Cloud State
Merrimack is moving to D1
Re: Augustana SD discussing moving to D1, possibly joining Pioneer
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dgtw
How many D1 hockey teams are D2 in everything else?
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D2 or D2 and lower. I used to have that number. It is pretty close to a third of all D1 programs hockey programs.
Re: Augustana SD discussing moving to D1, possibly joining Pioneer
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dgtw
How many D1 hockey teams are D2 in everything else?
There are 60 teams playing D-I hockey. 15 are D-2 (although Hockey East's Merrimack begins its transition upwards on July 1). Of those, 3 are in Atlantic Hockey, 2 are in the NCHC, and 9 are in the WCHA (Bowling Green is the only full D-I school in the WCHA). There are 6 D-3 schools, 4 of whom can give scholarships and 2 who cannot.
D2: American International, Bentley, Mercyhurst, Merrimack*, St. Cloud State, Minnesota Duluth, Minnesota State, Northern Michigan, Lake Superior, Bemidji State, Michigan Tech, Alaska, Alabama-Huntsville, Ferris State, Alaska Anchorage
D3 scholarship: Clarkson, Rensselaer, St. Lawrence, Colorado College
D3 non-scholarship: RIT, Union
Re: Augustana SD discussing moving to D1, possibly joining Pioneer
Thank you all for the information.
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Re: Augustana SD discussing moving to D1, possibly joining Pioneer
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nodak651
Which is kind of interesting because there are a handful of D2 schools with hockey that play D3 schedules, but are ineligable for the playoffs.
You're thinking of the Northeast-10. They are the only D2 conference for ice hockey. But each of the teams could go to the D1 championship if they wanted. They choose not to participate in the D1 championships like the Ivy League does in football. P
art of the reason for this is they can play D3 schools by opting out of the D1 championship. If they want to play in the D1 championship then they need to meet D1 scheduling requirements which would require them to spend more in travel and they wouldn't be competitive against the D1 teams. So they would spend more money and be less successful. A lose-lose.
They have found a sweet spot as they have a conference against peers where they have competitive games in a local region but they can also offer scholarships to attract some good players and can play D3 schools to ensure they always have some success.
Re: Augustana SD discussing moving to D1, possibly joining Pioneer
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Pinnum
You're thinking of the Northeast-10. They are the only D2 conference for ice hockey. But each of the teams could go to the D1 championship if they wanted. They choose not to participate in the D1 championships like the Ivy League does in football. P
art of the reason for this is they can play D3 schools by opting out of the D1 championship. If they want to play in the D1 championship then they need to meet D1 scheduling requirements which would require them to spend more in travel and they wouldn't be competitive against the D1 teams. So they would spend more money and be less successful. A lose-lose.
They have found a sweet spot as they have a conference against peers where they have competitive games in a local region but they can also offer scholarships to attract some good players and can play D3 schools to ensure they always have some success.
I'm not sure how many of them offer hockey scholarships. Their spending is probably below most D-3's as well. Any of them could wake up tomorrow and join Atlantic Hockey if they so chose, but I don't see that ever happening.