Re: Rivalries: What is your preferred competition level?
Disagree.
UNI is 34-5 against Missouri State. Rivalry
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Re: Rivalries: What is your preferred competition level?
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As for the topic....
Rivals for me have to meet a couple basic criteria
Must play across multiple sports frequently. Being the in the same conference helps but isn't required. Thus EIU/WIU/ISUR all can meet criteria of rivals. However, UNI and WIU/SDSU/USD/NDSU/UND will never be a rivalry game for me. They can be heated games, but it's not a rivalry situation for me. UNI has played WIU in football every year since 1984...not a rival. UNI and NDSU seem to really really really dislike each other. Not a rival for me. Maybe if UNI and NDSU were consistent OOC opponents in basketball, softball, volleyball, women's basketball, etc. it could get there. However, if you are OOC and play each other a lot it doesn't make you a rival either. There needs to be more to it.
UNI and Iowa/Iowa State (as dumb as this sounds) has been a rivalry for a long ****ing time, but they are doing everything they can to make it not anymore. Iowa has pulled MBB, volleyball, and wrestling away from UNI. The only sports that really play anymore are softball, women's soccer and women's basketball - and there has been rumblings those are on the outs as well. Iowa State hasn't been quite as bad as they've only pulled men's basketball. Still play in every other sport every year - and will come to Cedar Falls unlike Iowa.
UNI's top rivals, IMO (and will be pretty common across UNI fans)
1. Drake
2. SIU
3. ISUr
4. MSU (just recently moved below ISUr due to younger fans not really remembering "Bear week" for what it used to be. MSU and SIU are the only two football games that "get their own week" among the fan base. "Bear week" and "Saluki week" carry history)
5. Bradley
6. Iowa State/Iowa
7. Indiana State
No one else really "matters" per se. Wichita State and sCUm will always have "honorary most hated" status, but with them moving to other conferences it isn't "active"
I suppose you could classify "Football rival" "basketball rival" etc...
As for how I want them to do outside of playing UNI? If every team could lose every game they play that would be my dream
Your age also impacts your opinions of what are rivalries. Bear Week was always fun. They used to be good in football and they were better than us in basketball. They joined the Valley first and we followed.
Saluki Week is newer. They didn't join the Gateway until 85. That rivalry used to be great because of the heated competition in football and basketball.
I think there was a long gap without games before football games with Iowa State restarted in 1985.
What's up with volleyball and Iowa? UNI used to have the third best team in the Midwest and Iowa wasn't even in the conversation.
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Your age also impacts your opinions of what are rivalries. Bear Week was always fun. They used to be good in football and they were better than us in basketball. They joined the Valley first and we followed.
Saluki Week is newer. They didn't join the Gateway until 85. That rivalry used to be great because of the heated competition in football and basketball.
I think there was a long gap without games before football games with Iowa State restarted in 1985.
What's up with volleyball and Iowa? UNI used to have the third best team in the Midwest and Iowa wasn't even in the conversation.
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Iowa still isn't in the conversation - well they are now because they are deep in some kind of major NCAA rules violation.
Iowa won't play UNI in volleyball because they won't win more than 1 out of 10 times. In the midwest it's still Minnesota, UNI, Nebraska and Iowa State "the programs". That bugs the **** out of Iowa. They'll play Iowa State because Cy Hawk but won't play UNI. UNI beat Iowa in softball this year, and I'd heard rumors they don't like UNI softball trending up the last 7 years or so and don't want to "legitimize" UNI as a D1 team by playing them.
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Iowa still isn't in the conversation - well they are now because they are deep in some kind of major NCAA rules violation.
Iowa won't play UNI in volleyball because they won't win more than 1 out of 10 times. In the midwest it's still Minnesota, UNI, Nebraska and Iowa State "the programs". That bugs the **** out of Iowa. They'll play Iowa State because Cy Hawk but won't play UNI. UNI beat Iowa in softball this year, and I'd heard rumors they don't like UNI softball trending up the last 7 years or so and don't want to "legitimize" UNI as a D1 team by playing them.
If I remember correctly the volleyball programs used to be Nebraska, Illinois and UNI. Of course I was in school while Bobbi was playing so it was a while ago.
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Illinois has fallen from top 10 every year to up and down but mostly a good B10 program. They were 17-14 just 2 years ago.
Iowa wishes they could get the support that UNI does
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Re: Rivalries: What is your preferred competition level?
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clenz
Iowa still isn't in the conversation - well they are now because they are deep in some kind of major NCAA rules violation.
Iowa won't play UNI in volleyball because they won't win more than 1 out of 10 times. In the midwest it's still Minnesota, UNI, Nebraska and Iowa State "the programs". That bugs the **** out of Iowa. They'll play Iowa State because Cy Hawk but won't play UNI. UNI beat Iowa in softball this year, and I'd heard rumors they don't like UNI softball trending up the last 7 years or so and don't want to "legitimize" UNI as a D1 team by playing them.
Must be a B1G requirement to be snobbish.
Re: Rivalries: What is your preferred competition level?
Perhaps I'm being a male chauvinist, but I don't really care for many sports outside of football and Men's basketball when determining rivalry (and, I imagine most of my socon brethren are the same way).
But I agree, playing every year doesn't necessarily count. Wofford and Furman will always be rivals because of the geographic proximity, the similar academics, and the similar success on the football field.
The Citadel is going to be a rival for Wofford for the next generation or so, but if they can't consistently step their game up in men's basketball/football, it'll only be until Wofford surpasses them in the all- time series (which realistically could happen by 2035 or 2040). I mean, the game has a trophy ("The Big Dog Trophy") but few actually know it exists.
Other than that, I don't see any long-term rivals for Wofford. Furman's just a perfect fit, whether they like it or not, and most of the youngins my age recognize each other as rivals.
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Must be a B1G0 requirement to be snobbish.
FYP - you forgot the zero for the ten.
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I prefer B1G0 Conference.
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