Fight at SU/UAPB Game; Players Pepper-Sprayed

[TexasTerror]

This comes from the Twitter of Perryn Keys (http://twitter.com/#!/perrynkeys) who covers Southern for the Baton Rouge Advocate.

Minimal details at this point... not sure what happened - but if anyone gets more info...


There was a wild, serious fight on the field afterward. This is serious. Emergency responders helping players. This is bad.


#UAPB and #Southern fans were throwing soda bottles.


LaMarkius Pettaway needed an oxygen tank. He, Jared Detrickand O'Neill Gilbert apparently were pepper-sprayed.

[eagle07]

Gonna be alot of suspensions from this one if its that big of a fight, not everyday players are pepper sprayed

[TheBisonator]

Gotta love SWAC football.

[TexasTerror]

According to TSPN fan reports, at the end of the game fights broke out all over the field...

Some quoted comments...


UAPB is going to ruin their chances at being on top because of penalties from the fight - some players will be suspended or banned for the rest of the season.


FANS throwing stuff on the field.... TEAMS STILL FIGHTING.....


Coaches were thrown down... it was wild stuff from what they were saying on UAPB radio.


Damn a Southern player is down..... he got beat up and has an oxygen mask.... paramedics attending to him.


Southern fan running from police in the white shirt....... police chasing him!

All come from this thread... http://www.tspnsports.com/forums/showthread.php?101806-Southern-vs-Arkansas-Pine-Bluff-Game-Updates-6-00pm-CT/

[Twentysix]

Classic HBCU. I wonder where the reputation and stereotypes come from?

[TexasTerror]

Following SWAC on Twitter in the search queue and this came up... still no details yet. Probably in the Baton Rouge Advocate tomorrow...


The game was on the SWAC channel, but they cut the camera, but when they returned SU players were on stretchers...

[eagle07]

Lol, some guy on that tspn board "su lost the game and the fight"

[Dane96]

Classic HBCU. I wonder where the reputation and stereotypes come from?

You're an idiot.

[phoenixphanatic21]

Any idea what started the fight?

[wheatstraw78]

Classic HBCU. I wonder where the reputation and stereotypes come from?

Are you serious?! You represent your institution very wellxsmhx

[bonarae]

Here's the latest (as of this writing) post from TSPN:


1) the Southern players DID NOT get beat up, they police came in spraying mace and a few of them got it in the face.

2) At the end, from what I saw no one was seriously injured.

3) the police were chasing some pine bluff supporter. There were a few pine bluff people on Southern's side and they were heckling the players thoughout the game, then they resorted to throwing stuff at the players. There were little to no security on that side (I don't call a skinney girl telling folks were there seat is security)

4) most of the fight occured on Southern's side of the field close to Southerns bench. At the end, mostly the coaches broke it up, plus 2 or 3 police spraying mace. It was not a pretty site.

[superman7515]

Melee Breaks Out After Southern/UAPB Game (http://www.sportsgrid.com/ncaa-football/melee-breaks-out-after-southern-uapb-game/)

Video at the link from the local news

[Twentysix]

Is the beginning of that video super choppy for anyone else? Like 2-3 FPS.

Pretty sure they thought they were playing hockey...

[Bobcat in NC]

If #17 for Southern (sorry, can't find his name because their athletics site is horrific)...the helmet-swinging little bi#$%... ever plays another game, the SWAC (and Southern) should be ashamed of themselves. By all definitions, that's assault...plain and simple. Everyone associated with the SWAC should be embarrassed by this display and should demand significant penalties. To see a great conference represented by young men (and fans) exhibiting this type of behavior is a shame.

[rexreed]

You're an idiot.
and a racist to boot.

[Twentysix]

The idea of an HBCU is racist...

[JSUBison]

You're an idiot.

I don't know why they felt the need to come in here and make those statements. NDSU fans need to leave this thread. I just don't get it. xsmhx

[Twentysix]

JSU you gotta give them a little hell when you can, they get to play up their 60,000+ attendance games to often.

Gotta admit a football helmet makes a pretty good weapon.

[PantherRob82]

To summarize this as typical of the HBCU's might be a little overboard, but let's not act like they might not have a reason to think this. I watch a lot of the ESPNU/ESPN3 games featuring teams from the MEAC/SWAC, and to be honest, there are many more games where there are overly chippy plays or actual fights compared to the rest of the FCS in general.

This is not to say it's white/black, because the rest of the FCS has black players and the HBCUs have white players. This has to do with a lack of control at many of the schools in these conferences. It may not be the norm, but I see it a lot more in these conferences than the rest.

[T-Dog]

I remember there was a chippy ending a an Aggie-Eagle Classic game a few years ago that caused an officer to go nuts with the pepper spray at midfield.

[PantherRob82]

Also, I completely agree that #17 is a huge b**** and should not play again for at least this season.

[Twentysix]

To summarize this as typical of the HBCU's might be a little overboard, but let's not act like they might not have a reason to think this. I watch a lot of the ESPNU/ESPN3 games featuring teams from the MEAC/SWAC, and to be honest, there are many more games where there are overly chippy plays or actual fights compared to the rest of the FCS in general.

This is not to say it's white/black, because the rest of the FCS has black players and the HBCUs have white players. This has to do with a lack of control at many of the schools in these conferences. It may not be the norm, but I see it a lot more in these conferences than the rest.

Your a racist. Just thought you should know. MSU got very chippy at the end of the game today :( Nothing like this though...

[Umpire]

All racism talk end NOW!

[PantherRob82]

All racism talk end NOW!

That puffy cloud swinging his rainbow as a weapon should have to sit in time out quietly until 2012. :D

[Dane96]

The idea of an HBCU is racist...

I am pretty much all in for your banning. Ummm...I am far from an African-American, but this is just a ridiculous statement. You serve no purpose here...and in life...and you should just go away.

[813Jag]

If #17 for Southern (sorry, can't find his name because their athletics site is horrific)...the helmet-swinging little bi#$%... ever plays another game, the SWAC (and Southern) should be ashamed of themselves. By all definitions, that's assault...plain and simple. Everyone associated with the SWAC should be embarrassed by this display and should demand significant penalties. To see a great conference represented by young men (and fans) exhibiting this type of behavior is a shame.
#17 didn't even play in the game, so his (hopeful) suspension won't impact anything on field. Not only did he swing a helmet he did it from behind. As a Southern alum, I'm embarrassed and upset by this.

edit: #17 is LaMarkus Pettaway, he's a freshman that only played in one game this season.

[813Jag]

Classic HBCU. I wonder where the reputation and stereotypes come from?
which one of these schools is the HBCU?:
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/football/ncaa/10/15/miami.suspensions.ap/p1.brawl.jpg

[The Eagle's Cliff]

I am pretty much all in for your banning. Ummm...I am far from an African-American, but this is just a ridiculous statement. You serve no purpose here...and in life...and you should just go away.

I don't think Yankees are qualified to discuss race. Most "racial" issues are accompanied by socio-economic circumstances and the South is 3rd World poor compared to places like Boston. You'd find the same kind of behavior, or worse, at a Drag Race with whites.

My main experience with HBCU is with Savannah St and Institutional Discipline with administrators and students has always been a problem. The culture of coddling and lowered expectations is the culprit. Pre-1960's Society set much higher expectations for public behavior which are gone.

The entire student section at Ga Southern yesterday chanted "F*** You Furman" a few times and they were probably almost all white. The Boundaries and Expectations for Public Behavior have collapsed in our culture regardless of race. Seems like I remember WKU and WIU? having a major fight 6 or 7 years ago.

[superman7515]

I remember there was a chippy ending a an Aggie-Eagle Classic game a few years ago that caused an officer to go nuts with the pepper spray at midfield.

Aggies and Eagles fights are nothing new. In the late 1940's there were enough Aggie/Eagle fights that they moved the game to Duke's campus for 1950 for added police presence and someone ended up driving their car onto the field during the game. And of course...

NY Times - January 1990 (http://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/20/sports/basketball-5-players-on-probation-after-brawl-halts-game.html)


Five members of the North Carolina A&T basketball team were placed on probation by the school today for their part in a brawl in which fans tangled with players and the police.

The five players will be allowed to play in their team's next game. Under National Collegiate Athletic Association rules, if a player is involved in a fight and it is his first offense he is placed on a one-game probation. A second fight results in a one-game suspension, and a third incident would lead to a suspension for an entire season.

Videotape Will Be Reviewed

The North Carolina A&T coach, Don Corbett, said at a news conference today that he would review videotape of his team's game with North Carolina Central on Thursday night, and would determine if further action was necessary. No action has been taken against players for Central, which was the visiting team.

Officials said the game was declared a no-contest. The game was suspended with 8 minutes 4 seconds left and A&T holding a 39-38 lead. North Carolina Central officials sought the no-contest ruling to maintain the Eagles' chances for a bid to the N.C.A.A. Division II tournament and a defense of their national championship.

Athletic Series May End

In addition, the A&T chancellor, Edward Fort, announced that discussions would begin immediately on ending the series of athletic contests between his school and Central, which is in Durham. The schools' intense rivalry dates to 1930.

Fort said campus security would continue its investigation of the brawl and determine if any other disciplinary action is necessary.

About 200 fans broke up the game with an on-court free-for-all, triggered when the Central forward Derrick Leak was fouled by the A&T center Jimmy Humphries.

''Even people from the A&T pep band were fighting,'' the Central sports information director, Wallace Dooley, said in a telephone interview. ''They were hitting people with their instruments. There was general rioting throughout the gymnasium between Central fans and A&T fans.''

Seven Treated for Injuries

Seven people - two city police officers, one campus security officer and four students - were treated for cuts and bruises and released, said Candy Colglazier, a spokeswoman for Moses Cone Memorial Hospital.

The Greensboro city police were called in to reinforce A&T security officers as approximately 6,000 fans were removed from the gym.

Cassundra Morrison, a sophomore member of the A&T pep band, was carried out on a stretcher after apparently being trampled during the fighting.

Fights Among Spectators

The fighting continued outside among several hundred spectators as players tried to board buses.

There was conflicting information about the number of people arrested, with a sheriff's official reporting three and city and campus police reporting no arrests.

Both coaches said none of their players were hurt in the brawl, although the glasses of the Central coach, Mike Bernard, were broken.

Fans were hitting people with steel folding chairs like it was the WWF, the pep band came down and started swinging instruments into peoples heads, campus police had to call in the city cops for help and a couple of cops ended up going to the hospital. Only time I remember hearing of a basketball game ending in an NCAA declared "No Contest" like a count-out in a wrestling match.

[downbythebeach]

Saint Francis and Wagner had a pretty good fight a couple of years ago and the cops responded to that too. It can be any school.

[813Jag]

Aggies and Eagles fights are nothing new. In the late 1940's there were enough Aggie/Eagle fights that they moved the game to Duke's campus for 1950 for added police presence and someone ended up driving their car onto the field during the game. And of course...

NY Times - January 1990 (http://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/20/sports/basketball-5-players-on-probation-after-brawl-halts-game.html)



Fans were hitting people with steel folding chairs like it was the WWF, the pep band came down and started swinging instruments into peoples heads, campus police had to call in the city cops for help and a couple of cops ended up going to the hospital. Only time I remember hearing of a basketball game ending in an NCAA declared "No Contest" like a count-out in a wrestling match.
in the 1991 there was a big basketball fight between Florida St and FAMU. The Rattlers had to forfiet due to only having 3 players left after ejections.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1665&dat=19911209&id=oeweAAAAIBAJ&sjid=oyQEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2198,2286304

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1991-12-08/sports/9112080246_1_finney-famu-leaving-the-bench

[TexasTerror]

813Jag -

Here's another HBCU fight from recent memory... involving WBB teams...


NORFOLK, Va. -- Nine players were suspended Thursday by the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference following a Feb. 14 fight between the women's teams of Maryland-Eastern Shore and Bethune-Cookman.

The suspensions came after an internal investigation that included a review of the game's video footage, statements from the game's officials and a neutral observer.

"We have made a thorough review of the altercation and have concluded that nine of the student-athletes involved in the incident were in violation of conference and NCAA rules," said MEAC Commissioner Dennis Thomas.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=6133626

[813Jag]

I personally hate to see fights during/after games no matter the institution. Second time some crazy stuff has happened at a UAPB/Southern football game. There's three different videos on youtube of this fight.

[TexasTerror]

Here's some more video...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esc58jj-UJk

[polsongrizz]

You're an idiot.


+1

[813Jag]

Here's some more video...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esc58jj-UJk

probably should have put a language warning with that clip.

[superman7515]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpHXVrNMdCQ

[PantherRob82]

Here's some more video...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esc58jj-UJk

Wow...fans were pretty excited about this....laughing...instigating from the stands. What an embarrassment for these two schools?

[PantherRob82]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpHXVrNMdCQ

Another group of fans who is excited. Excited that their ******* are out there fighting. Excited to throw stuff. xbangx

[WileECoyote06]

Aggies and Eagles fights are nothing new. In the late 1940's there were enough Aggie/Eagle fights that they moved the game to Duke's campus for 1950 for added police presence and someone ended up driving their car onto the field during the game. And of course...

NY Times - January 1990 (http://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/20/sports/basketball-5-players-on-probation-after-brawl-halts-game.html)



Fans were hitting people with steel folding chairs like it was the WWF, the pep band came down and started swinging instruments into peoples heads, campus police had to call in the city cops for help and a couple of cops ended up going to the hospital. Only time I remember hearing of a basketball game ending in an NCAA declared "No Contest" like a count-out in a wrestling match.

We have a contract with them that says we must have a major fight/altercation in at least one sport at least once a decade.






j/k. . . .Aggies and Eagles love each other the rest of the year until we play each other.

Oh and HBCU is no more racist a concept, than an all-women's college is a sexist concept or a catholic college is a anti-protestant concept. Stupid is as stupid does.

[WileECoyote06]

lol. . .

Man we could do a television show of nothing but mascot fighting; and lets not forget these:

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/files/2009/09/041120_clemson_sc_brawl_hmedhlarge.jpg

http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/campus-rivalry/2011/10/14/china%20brawlx-large.jpg

http://badjocks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/elon-citadel-basebrawl-300x198.png

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/news/2002/11/24/hawaii_fight_ap/t1_fight_ap.jpg

yep. . it's just HBCUs fighting.xeyebrowx xliarx

[bojeta]

You're an idiot. Couldn't agree more! Small mind, small thoughts. Big impression of himself though, I'm sure.

[BgJag]

This comes from the Twitter of Perryn Keys (http://twitter.com/#!/perrynkeys) who covers Southern for the Baton Rouge Advocate.

Minimal details at this point... not sure what happened - but if anyone gets more info...


bet you had a warm wet spot running down your leg when you saw that.

[PantherRob82]

lol. . .

Man we could do a television show of nothing but mascot fighting; and lets not forget these:

yep. . it's just HBCUs fighting.xeyebrowx xliarx

I'd like to quote Dane96 and say, you're an idiot. Nobody said HBCU's are the only ones who fight. xnottalkingx

[SouthernRundown]

which one of these schools is the HBCU?:
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/football/ncaa/10/15/miami.suspensions.ap/p1.brawl.jpg

Miami.

[pokefan02]

Miami.

Historically
Bought
Colleges and
Universities

[Twentysix]

lol. . .

Man we could do a television show of nothing but mascot fighting; and lets not forget these:

yep. . it's just HBCUs fighting.xeyebrowx xliarx

Cause anyone said that? Lol you can twist and infer however you want.

[WileECoyote06]

I'd like to quote Dane96 and say, you're an idiot. Nobody said HBCU's are the only ones who fight. xnottalkingx

Oh so now I'm the one who said something stupid? How about you scroll back to page one, and see who started this offshoot of the original discussion.

[WileECoyote06]

Cause anyone said that? Lol you can twist and infer however you want.


Classic HBCU. I wonder where the reputation and stereotypes come from?

Well maybe you should be more clear in your statements. Inquiring minds want to know. What is the reputation and stereotype of an HBCU? How did you arrive at your conclusion? How many HBCUs have you visited to arrive at this conclusion? Were they in different states or regions?

[WileECoyote06]

Miami.

FIU is an HSI.

[Twentysix]

Well maybe you should be more clear in your statements. Inquiring minds want to know. What is the reputation and stereotype of an HBCU? How did you arrive at your conclusion? How many HBCUs have you visited to arrive at this conclusion? Were they in different states or regions?

HBCU's poor retention rates and academic problems. Obvious leadership/discipline problems. Those surface in on field chippyness and fighting.

All schools have them, they appear to have these problems more often.

[CorrosionDoc]

I am pretty much all in for your banning. Ummm...I am far from an African-American, but this is just a ridiculous statement. You serve no purpose here...and in life...and you should just go away.

Ah yes, the intolerance of the "tolerance" movement... xnonono2x

[WileECoyote06]

HBCU's poor retention rates and academic problems. Obvious leadership/discipline problems. Those surface in on field chippyness and fighting.

All schools have them, they appear to have these problems more often.

Because they are easier to identify, as a member of a group of colleges. Way to make sure that what you've typed can't be disputed.

As far as the 'poor retention rates and academic problems' . . . eEvery school has its own mission to fulfill, and some have comparable retention rates to their peer colleges. Academic problems is a very vague description, that doesn't give any details.

By the way, you didn't answer the last three questions.

[813Jag]

Historically
Bought
Colleges and
Universities
reps for that!

[813Jag]

Miami.
yep with that whopping 8% black student population.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

A fight broke out a few years ago against Holy Cross and Dartmouth, fer God's sakes.

Trying to single out HBCU's as if they're the ONLY schools that havbe fights is, yes, racist and I personally think multiple bans ought to be shelled out for the people actively stirring the pot - especially the person "breathlessly" reporting the incident, as if it were a terrorist attack.

I guess this whole thread reveals a whole lot more about the posters here than UAPB and Southern.

[bojeta]

Because they are easier to identify, as a member of a group of colleges. Way to make sure that what you've typed can't be disputed.

As far as the 'poor retention rates and academic problems' . . . eEvery school has its own mission to fulfill, and some have comparable retention rates to their peer colleges. Academic problems is a very vague description, that doesn't give any details.

By the way, you didn't answer the last three questions.

I'd like to add to this: Not only do schools have different missions, sometimes they are mixed. The top performers in any institution are often on par with those at institutions perceived to be elite. The goal of public education was to end the centuries old practice of reserving higher education for the wealthy and thereby perpetuating a system built solely on birthright. In the process, dealing with the myriad of socio-economic problems faced by the "less privileged", you will have an inherently high level of non-completers (dropouts). This does not imply a lack of success, but rather a necessary process to find those among the disenfranchised that can compete at the highest level in order to bring some semblance of equity to our "democracy". Public education in general has received a bad rap from the extreme right, not because they have failed, but because they had dealt with the problems others will not face and are then measured on a scale created by the very people that will not address the problems. Rejecting those outside your group and then demanding standardization of assessment based on those within your group is the height of ignorance.

[Dane96]

I don't think Yankees are qualified to discuss race. Most "racial" issues are accompanied by socio-economic circumstances and the South is 3rd World poor compared to places like Boston. You'd find the same kind of behavior, or worse, at a Drag Race with whites.

My main experience with HBCU is with Savannah St and Institutional Discipline with administrators and students has always been a problem. The culture of coddling and lowered expectations is the culprit. Pre-1960's Society set much higher expectations for public behavior which are gone.

The entire student section at Ga Southern yesterday chanted "F*** You Furman" a few times and they were probably almost all white. The Boundaries and Expectations for Public Behavior have collapsed in our culture regardless of race. Seems like I remember WKU and WIU? having a major fight 6 or 7 years ago.

Ummmm...thanks for telling me what I am qualified to speak about. And thanks for the history lesson. Must have missed all that in my education. And thanks for calling me a Yankee.

Didn't know you knew I rooted for my Bronx Bombers.

[Dane96]

HBCU's poor retention rates and academic problems. Obvious leadership/discipline problems. Those surface in on field chippyness and fighting.

All schools have them, they appear to have these problems more often.

You are a racist...pure and simple.

What about all the good old non-HBCU schools with poor retention rates and historic academic problems.

[Dane96]

Ah yes, the intolerance of the "tolerance" movement... xnonono2x

Please explain. Are we all for racism? Words that express racism on a "private forum". Is that what we should promote. This is a private board...and there was a former poster who I thought pulled the race card constantly (from Georgia) on everything and it made me sick.

In this instance, the comments of twentysix are overtly racist, and without any factual or scientific reference...I am calling the racist card out. Racism...in that context, which is not a form of educated speech, is not promoted...nor should be tolerated, on this site.

[downbythebeach]

A fight broke out a few years ago against Holy Cross and Dartmouth, fer God's sakes.

Trying to single out HBCU's as if they're the ONLY schools that havbe fights is, yes, racist and I personally think multiple bans ought to be shelled out for the people actively stirring the pot - especially the person "breathlessly" reporting the incident, as if it were a terrorist attack.

I guess this whole thread reveals a whole lot more about the posters here than UAPB and Southern.

Yeah, the SFU/Wagner fight was probably as bad if not worse than this.
I remember a Wagner player ripped a SFU players helmet off from a pile and threw it 30 yards down the field

[dgtw]

Jim Harbaugh must be an HBCU coach. Who knew?

[superman7515]

You are a racist...pure and simple.

What about all the good old non-HBCU schools with poor retention rates and historic academic problems.

Although I disagreed with many of the comments Twentysix made, his comment about HBCU's being racist is one that is shared by several people on the MEAC football forums who graduated from these schools. Anyone who spends some time there will find that several of the most active posters assert that the most racist schools in America are the HBCU's because their older alumnis desire to hold onto their roots forces their administrations to look at skin color in hiring, not just in athletics, but in teachers, administration, and especially at the top with President's and Athletic Directors where you see the same individuals "recycled" again and again.

Clearly not everyone agrees with that assertion, but his sharing that feeling with several of the graduates of those schools hardly qualifies him as overtly racist. Now his first comment about "Classic HBCU's" is a dick move and I agree that needs to go because I can't think of any way that isn't racist considering the number of schools that have had fights and worse. The straw man argument that he later tried to play it off as if he was alluding to graduation and retention rates is ridiculous.

[clenz]

Is the beginning of that video super choppy for anyone else? Like 2-3 FPS.

Pretty sure they thought they were playing hockey...
It was like watching a surveillance video.

[PantherRob82]

A fight broke out a few years ago against Holy Cross and Dartmouth, fer God's sakes.

Trying to single out HBCU's as if they're the ONLY schools that havbe fights is, yes, racist and I personally think multiple bans ought to be shelled out for the people actively stirring the pot - especially the person "breathlessly" reporting the incident, as if it were a terrorist attack.

I guess this whole thread reveals a whole lot more about the posters here than UAPB and Southern.

Where did ANYONE say they were the only ones that fight? Do you not need reading comprehension at Lehigh?

[PantherRob82]

Jim Harbaugh must be an HBCU coach. Who knew?

No, but he has always been a huge douche bag. xthumbsupx

[clenz]

A fight broke out a few years ago against Holy Cross and Dartmouth, fer God's sakes.

Trying to single out HBCU's as if they're the ONLY schools that havbe fights is, yes, racist and I personally think multiple bans ought to be shelled out for the people actively stirring the pot - especially the person "breathlessly" reporting the incident, as if it were a terrorist attack.

I guess this whole thread reveals a whole lot more about the posters here than UAPB and Southern.

Who has said HBCU are the only ones to fight?



Bueller.....



Bueller...



Yep, what I thought.

[heath]

whole lot of egg heads making a mountain out of a mole hillxsmileyclapx

[Dane96]

Although I disagreed with many of the comments Twentysix made, his comment about HBCU's being racist is one that is shared by several people on the MEAC football forums who graduated from these schools. Anyone who spends some time there will find that several of the most active posters assert that the most racist schools in America are the HBCU's because their older alumnis desire to hold onto their roots forces their administrations to look at skin color in hiring, not just in athletics, but in teachers, administration, and especially at the top with President's and Athletic Directors where you see the same individuals "recycled" again and again.

Clearly not everyone agrees with that assertion, but his sharing that feeling with several of the graduates of those schools hardly qualifies him as overtly racist. Now his first comment about "Classic HBCU's" is a dick move and I agree that needs to go because I can't think of any way that isn't racist considering the number of schools that have had fights and worse. The straw man argument that he later tried to play it off as if he was alluding to graduation and retention rates is ridiculous.

I hear you.

[Dane96]

Where did ANYONE say they were the only ones that fight? Do you not need reading comprehension at Lehigh?

Actually, you are both wrong.

26 reference the following:

HBCU = Fighting.......as a standard.

That...is a bull**** statement.

So...are all Italians lovers...or cowards (the war references)...Jews cheap, etc.

That's...the major point.

[MR. CHICKEN]

whole lot of egg heads making a mountain out of a mole hillxsmileyclapx

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[TexasTerror]

UAPB statement, plus more details... including Southern statement...


“This was an outstanding ballgame between two outstanding universities whose ties in both academics and athletics go back as far as I can remember,” UAPB Chancellor Lawrence A. Davis Jr. said in a statement.

“Unfortunately, following the game, things beyond our control happened that neither UAPB nor Southern can condone nor be proud of. The conference office is being provided video footage that will hopefully aid it in its investigation into this unfortunate incident.”

http://theadvocate.com/sports/southern/1091073-123/postgame-fight-mars-thriller.html

[3rd Coast Tiger]

Hey, a fight can happen anywhere...

http://www.chron.com/mediaManager/?controllerName=image&action=get&id=1655672&width=628&height=471

[superman7515]

Hey, a fight can happen anywhere...

http://www.chron.com/mediaManager/?controllerName=image&action=get&id=1655672&width=628&height=471

So that's why he doesn't like the SWAC. He shows up one time to ask for Doug Williams' autograph and look what happens. 3rd Coast, you ought to be embarrased.

[dbackjon]

Not sure which is more disgusting, the fight, or the comments in this thread.

[biggame]

I would say #17 shouldn't be playing football period.

[SideLine Shooter]

What about all the good old non-HBCU schools with poor retention rates and historic academic problems.

I think that pretty much covers it.

[TexasTerror]

SWAC statement...


The Southwestern Athletic Conference is currently reviewing Saturday's post-game altercation between members of the Southern University and University of Arkansas-Pine Bluff football teams.

The SWAC Office is concerned and disappointed that the incident took place and the league is working with administrative leadership at each school to gather as much information and video footage possible before levying any actions from the conference office.

Each chancellor, Dr. James L. Llorens at Southern and Dr. Lawrence A. Davis, Jr. from UAPB, issued an official statement with apologies to alumni and fans and have pledged cooperation with the conference office from their respective institutions.

No definite timeline has been set for a decision from the SWAC Office.

http://www.swac.org/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=27400&ATCLID=205318049

[BEAR]

I just want to know who had the guts to take a swing at Monte Coleman...brave..just plain brave. xnodxxnodxxnodx

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

I would say #17 shouldn't be playing football period.

Before you make a comment you need to see the un edited version. SU qb was also club by a helment.

[PantherRob82]

Before you make a comment you need to see the un edited version. SU qb was also club by a helment.

Oh, that was fine then. Carry on. xsmhx

[TexasTerror]

A total of 41 players suspended... and fines levied against both institutions... what stinks is if UAPB has to burn some redshirts to field a squad...


Birmingham, AL (Sports Network) - The Southwestern Athletic Conference on Thursday suspended 41 players for at least one game following a post-game fight between the Southern and Arkansas-Pine Bluff football teams last Saturday.

Suspended were 25 UAPB players and 16 from Southern. The conference also assessed undisclosed fines against the universities.

Most of the suspensions will be for one game, but eight players will miss two for using "excessive force," the league said.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot/news/newstest.aspx?id=4444589

[kdinva]

A total of 41 players suspended.......what stinks is if UAPB has to burn some redshirts to field a squad....

xbawlingx

[TexasTerror]

Southern attempting to appeal... seems that they are doing so because they are honoring their seniors, some of whom are suspended in their next game - a home finale vs Alcorn State. Will the SWAC hold their ground?


Southern football coach Stump Mitchell said he plans to ask the Southwestern Athletic Conference to allow some of his players to serve their suspensions later this season so they can participate in next week’s home finale against Alcorn State at A.W. Mumford Stadium.

The SWAC suspended 16 Southern players for their roles in a postgame brawl after last Saturday’s loss at Arkansas-Pine Bluff.

It also suspended 25 players from UAPB.

http://theadvocate.com/home/1134403-125/su-plans-appeal-to-swac.html

[813Jag]

Southern attempting to appeal... seems that they are doing so because they are honoring their seniors, some of whom are suspended in their next game - a home finale vs Alcorn State. Will the SWAC hold their ground?



http://theadvocate.com/home/1134403-125/su-plans-appeal-to-swac.html
He's asking to split the suspensions half and half. (8 for next week and 8 for the game after that. The team is off this week)

[TexasTerror]

He's asking to split the suspensions half and half. (8 for next week and 8 for the game after that. The team is off this week)

Is UAPB getting something similar done for their team? Both teams need that luxury, not one team or the other...

[813Jag]

Is UAPB getting something similar done for their team? Both teams need that luxury, not one team or the other...
I would hope they would. There's not much word coming out of their camp.

[dgtw]

They can't be honored by walking out in street clothes? Or does being suspended mean you can't be on the field at all.

If they have 41 suspensions, they should be allowed to break it up into more than one game so the team doesn't take a huge hit in one game.

[TexasTerror]

Makes sense... worried about student athlete welfare and safety...


SWAC Commissioner Duer Sharp said the Conference Office took into consideration the safety and welfare of the student-athletes remaining on each team's roster following the suspensions. The league also took into consideration that currently eligible players could possibly lose future eligibility by lifting redshirts this late in the season in order to fill roster spots left by the suspensions.

"In fairness to those that did not participate in the altercation, we have decided to stagger the punishments handed down to each school. Let me reiterate, however, these suspensions send a clear and definitive message that this type of behavior will not be tolerated," Sharp said.

http://www.swac.org/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=27400&ATCLID=205322253