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TheBisonator
September 25th, 2011, 06:03 PM
I have:

1. Georgia Southern
2. Northern Iowa
3. Montana State
4. Appalachian State
5. Delaware
6. North Dakota State
7. Wofford
8. New Hampshire
9. James Madison
10. Richmond

What about your list??

crusader11
September 25th, 2011, 06:09 PM
1: Georgia Southern Eagles
2: Northern Iowa Panthers
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Wofford Terriers
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: Appalachian State Mountaineers
7: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
8: New Hampshire Wildcats
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Southern Illinois Salukis

jmufan999
September 25th, 2011, 06:10 PM
JMU should be ahead of UNH. And before someone yells at me for posting rankings, I'm NOT, I'm responding to the thread. But we are 3-1, UNH is 2-1. Both have two quality road wins, us having an additional win should be the tiebreaker.

The Eagle's Cliff
September 25th, 2011, 06:12 PM
1. GSU
2. UNI
3. Mont St
4. NDSU
5. ASU
6. Wofford
7. Delaware
8. UNH
9. JMU
10. Richmond

beauspencer
September 25th, 2011, 06:18 PM
1) Georgia Southern
2) Appalachian State
3) Montana State
4) Delaware
5) James Madison
6) Sam Houston State
7) Northern Iowa
8) North Dakota State
9) Wofford
10) New Hampshire

***I have seen both Sam Houston and Northern Iowa in person. More impressed by the Bearkats.

crusader11
September 25th, 2011, 06:22 PM
I think that defeating Richmond and Lehigh is more impressive than CCSU, W&M, and Liberty. The Tribe is a middle of the road or worse CAA team this season. And, while Liberty may end up having a good end to their season, they are 1-3 right now.

TheBisonator
September 25th, 2011, 06:23 PM
1) Georgia Southern
2) Appalachian State
3) Montana State
4) Delaware
5) James Madison
6) Sam Houston State
7) Northern Iowa
8) North Dakota State
9) Wofford
10) New Hampshire

***I have seen both Sam Houston and Northern Iowa in person. More impressed by the Bearkats.

Sam Houston ahead of NDSU?? Whuuuhhhh????

I can see NDSU as low as 8, but SHSU ahead of them, I dunno...

B&G
September 25th, 2011, 06:27 PM
1 North Dakota State Bison
2 Northern Iowa Panthers
3 Georgia Southern Eagles
4 Montana State Bobcats
5 Appalachian State Mountaineers
6 New Hampshire Wildcats
7 Wofford Terriers
8 James Madison Dukes
9 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
10 Sam Houston State Bearkats

Bison Fan in NW MN
September 25th, 2011, 06:28 PM
IMO, the Bison could be anywhere from #1 to #10. We should be ranked above Montana State with our 43-17 beatdown in last yrs playoffs.

TheBisonator
September 25th, 2011, 06:29 PM
IMO, the Bison could be anywhere from #1 to #10. We should be ranked above Montana State with our 43-17 beatdown in last yrs playoffs.

1-10 is a little too broad. I could put us anywhere from 4 to 8.

FargoBison
September 25th, 2011, 06:30 PM
I've been going back and forth on this...trying not to homer it up....

1. GSU
2. UNI
3. NDSU
4. Montana St
5. App St
6. Wofford
7. UNH
8. JMU
9. Delaware
10. SHSU

beauspencer
September 25th, 2011, 06:31 PM
Don't get me wrong, I think North Dakota State is stacked, but I feel Sam Houston is better than UNI after seeing both of them first hand. Your poll has UNI #2 and NDSU #6.

Reign of Terrier
September 25th, 2011, 06:32 PM
1) Chattanooga
2) Georgia State
3) EWU
4)Liberty
5) Montana
6) Dayton
7) Jacksonville
8) William and Mary
9) Towson
10) Villanova



I don't vote of course

TwoFeathers
September 25th, 2011, 06:36 PM
I gotta put UNH above JMU... for now.

TwoFeathers
September 25th, 2011, 06:36 PM
1) Chattanooga
2) Georgia State
3) EWU
4)Liberty
5) Montana
6) Dayton
7) Jacksonville
8) William and Mary
9) Towson
10) Villanova



I don't vote of course

What the??? Is today April Fool's Day?

Apphole
September 25th, 2011, 06:48 PM
1. Chattanooga
2. Chattanooga
3. Chattanooga
4. Chattanooga
5. Chattanooga
6. Chattanooga
7. Chattanooga
8. Chattanooga
9. Chattanooga
10. Chattanooga

TheBisonator
September 25th, 2011, 07:02 PM
What the??? Is today April Fool's Day?

The sad thing is that it took me about 3 and a half seconds to get it.

blackfordpu
September 25th, 2011, 07:23 PM
IMO, the Bison could be anywhere from #1 to #10. We should be ranked above Montana State with our 43-17 beatdown in last yrs playoffs.

Since when do last years games have anything to do with this year?

jhanel
September 25th, 2011, 07:31 PM
1: Northern Iowa Panthers
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Appalachian State Mountaineers
6: Wofford Terriers
7: New Hampshire Wildcats
8: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Richmond Spiders

paward
September 25th, 2011, 07:36 PM
1) Chattanooga
2) Georgia State
3) EWU
4)Liberty
5) Montana
6) Dayton
7) Jacksonville
8) William and Mary
9) Towson
10) Villanova



I don't vote of course

Towson do not belong on this list!

bojeta
September 25th, 2011, 07:37 PM
I have:

1. Georgia Southern
2. Northern Iowa
3. Montana State
4. Appalachian State
5. Delaware
6. North Dakota State
7. Wofford
8. New Hampshire
9. James Madison
10. Richmond

What about your list??

Toss out Wofford and Richmond. Add in Southern Utah and Lehigh. Otherwise, same group with slightly different order.

mgbison
September 25th, 2011, 07:43 PM
I think NDSU should be ranked ahead of MSU based on last years results. We won on the road, and we return the majority of our team. Plus our QB showed saturday that he's gonna be a solid player (the qb position was the big concern going into the season.)

So, why would someone have MSU ahead of NDSU?

It really doesn't matter because it will work itself out in the end. Its a guessing game right now.

I could really care less, it will all work itself out at the end of the season.

TexasTerror
September 25th, 2011, 07:53 PM
Interested to see how SHSU stacks up when the AGS, TSN and Coaches polls are released... a win over a FBS has got to mean something, but do people not much stock in the victories (W Illinois, C Arkansas and New Mexico)?

Squealofthepig
September 25th, 2011, 07:54 PM
I think NDSU should be ranked ahead of MSU based on last years results. We won on the road, and we return the majority of our team. Plus our QB showed saturday that he's gonna be a solid player (the qb position was the big concern going into the season.)

So, why would someone have MSU ahead of NDSU?

It really doesn't matter because it will work itself out in the end. Its a guessing game right now.

I could really care less, it will all work itself out at the end of the season.

If you go by last year, you would say EWU needs to be ranked ahead of NDSU. Hence another reason why you shouldn't consider last year's results.

For this year, it's still easy to argue that NDSU should be ahead of Montana State. NDSU has a convincing road win at an FBS - and BCS - team and two other convincing wins over lesser competition, leaving them with an unblemished record. Montana State has a loss at Utah (which looks a bit better after what Utah did to BYU), and their road win (at EWU) doesn't really look as impressive as NDSU's handing of Minnesota.

Bison Fan in NW MN
September 25th, 2011, 07:57 PM
Since when do last years games have anything to do with this year?


Nothing.

But recent enough and with both teams having the same teams to make it relevant IMO.

pike51
September 25th, 2011, 08:11 PM
1. Chattanooga
2. Chattanooga
3. Chattanooga
4. Chattanooga
5. Chattanooga
6. Chattanooga
7. Chattanooga
8. Chattanooga
9. Chattanooga
10. Chattanooga

This... except I'd have said 2-10: Doesn't matter :)

bojeta
September 25th, 2011, 08:22 PM
Interested to see how SHSU stacks up when the AGS, TSN and Coaches polls are released... a win over a FBS has got to mean something, but do people not much stock in the victories (W Illinois, C Arkansas and New Mexico)?

I think Sam Houston likely has a real good team, but don't count on anyone being too impressed with a victory over New Mexico.

Reign of Terrier
September 25th, 2011, 08:44 PM
Toss out Wofford and Richmond. Add in Southern Utah and Lehigh. Otherwise, same group with slightly different order.

Wofford is a legitimate top 10 football team. If we win Saturday we are top 5

NDB
September 25th, 2011, 09:33 PM
Why should NDSU be ranked ahead of Montana State.

NDSU returned nearly the entire team that owned the Bobcats last year.

Montana State wins against Davis (1-3), Minot State(DII), Eastern Washington (0-4). Those teams have 1 win against an FCS - San Diego.

NDSU - wins against Lafayette (1-3), Saint Francis (1-3), Minnesota (1-3). Three times as many DI wins for a whopping total of 3. And a 'marquee win' over Minnesota.

Sagarin MSU - 85; NDSU - 71.



I'm a big Bobcat fan. I'm also ready for Montana State to go through the Big Sky and get a top 4 seed with NDSU having to travel to Bozeman because people in August rated NDSU lower.

GSUhooligan
September 25th, 2011, 09:39 PM
1: Georgia Southern Eagles
2: Northern Iowa Panthers
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Appalachian State Mountaineers
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
8: New Hampshire Wildcats
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Southern Illinois Salukis

Chi Panther
September 25th, 2011, 09:42 PM
1) Georgia Southern
2) Appalachian State
3) Montana State
4) Delaware
5) James Madison
6) Sam Houston State
7) Northern Iowa
8) North Dakota State
9) Wofford
10) New Hampshire

***I have seen both Sam Houston and Northern Iowa in person. More impressed by the Bearkats.

What was more impressive about SHSU? I've seen you twitter this too.

I consider David Johnson our top RB even as a freshman, but technically, our starting RB only had 3 carries....

35 to 3 with 8 mins left in the 3rd quarter is about all you get out of Farley for running up the score....

ValleyChamp
September 25th, 2011, 09:47 PM
IMO, the Bison could be anywhere from #1 to #10. We should be ranked above Montana State with our 43-17 beatdown in last yrs playoffs.

What exactly does last year have to do with 2011? Should EWU still be ranked #1 today because they won it all last year?

Idiotic argument. Too many of you bison fans have been using this logic.

ValleyChamp
September 25th, 2011, 09:53 PM
and lol at the bitter WIU guy. UNI could have picked a score against that sorry Western team.

beauspencer
September 25th, 2011, 09:57 PM
What was more impressive about SHSU? I've seen you twitter this too.

I felt the Sam Houston defense, overall, was slightly better than UNI's defense. Offensively, UNI has the very dangerous weapon in your QB. From the running game standpoint, Rennie and Flanders are equally as dangerous, but UNI does have more weapons, as Johnson is extremely impressive. Bell (SHS) is a better passer than Rennie.

***This is my unbiased opinion after watching these two teams, nothing against UNI***

beauspencer
September 25th, 2011, 09:57 PM
and lol at the bitter WIU guy.

I'm not bitter. WIU lost to Sam Houston State, too!

Terrierforlife
September 25th, 2011, 10:03 PM
1) Chattanooga
2) Georgia State
3) EWU
4)Liberty
5) Montana
6) Dayton
7) Jacksonville
8) William and Mary
9) Towson
10) Villanova



I don't vote of course

I can see why! LOL

UNIFanSince1983
September 25th, 2011, 10:14 PM
The argument for NDSU over Montana State shouldn't be based on last year. However, based on this year so far NDSU has a better resume (although both are pretty weak). I mean beating an FBS team is good, but Minnesota is not very good this year. And I would question the people that have SIU in their top 10 after they nearly lost to a bad Missouri State team at home this week. Here is my go, even though I am not a voter:

1. Georgia Southern
2. NDSU
3. UNI
4. UNH
5. Wofford
6. JMU
7. Appalachian State
8. Montana State
9. Delaware
10. Southern Utah

#10 was tough for me. I really didn't think it should be Southern Utah because of the SDSU loss, but they still seem to have a better resume than the teams I was comparing them with. They got the nod over Sam Houston basically because I think UNLV is better than New Mexico and I think Sac State is better than WIU or Central Arkansas. Either way that was really close for me.

bojeta
September 25th, 2011, 10:46 PM
NDSU is my clear #1. Their FBS win over Minnesota was the most meaningful FBS win this year. Minnesota is NOT the strongest FBS team by a long shot, however, they showed they can play with teams like USC, they had just got their confidence back with a win the week before, were riding high and IN NO WAY were going to overlook NDSU because they remembered all too clearly losing to them before. Add that to their other wins and their strong performance last year..... = #1 For now at least :)

Squealofthepig
September 26th, 2011, 12:49 AM
And I would question the people that have SIU in their top 10 after they nearly lost to a bad Missouri State team at home this week.

Some have SIU in their top 10? I have them ranked (in the 11-25 range) based on their good win at SEMO... but their close win over Missouri State, at home, had me drop them a bit this week. The Salukis may be a really good team - maybe we'll know in two weeks when they host the Bison (assuming they can get past their trip to WIU net weekend).

woffordgrad94
September 26th, 2011, 03:19 AM
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msupokes1
September 26th, 2011, 08:12 AM
I have:

1: Northern Iowa Panthers
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Georgia Southern Eagles
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
6: Appalachian State Mountaineers
7: Wofford Terriers
8: New Hampshire Wildcats
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Sam Houston State Bearkats

DJKyR0
September 26th, 2011, 09:00 AM
Commence chastisement for me putting Lehigh in the top ten.

1: Georgia Southern Eagles
2: Northern Iowa Panthers
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Appalachian State Mountaineers
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
8: New Hampshire Wildcats
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Lehigh Mountain Hawks

ASUMountaineer
September 26th, 2011, 09:41 AM
1: Georgia Southern Eagles (this is painful)
2: Northern Iowa Panthers
3: Appalachian State Mountaineers
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
6: James Madison Dukes
7: Wofford Terriers
8: New Hampshire Wildcats
9: North Dakota State Bison
10: Chattanooga Mocs

Southsider
September 26th, 2011, 09:42 AM
Commence chastisement for me putting Lehigh in the top ten.1: Georgia Southern Eagles
2: Northern Iowa Panthers
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Appalachian State Mountaineers
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
8: New Hampshire Wildcats
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Lehigh Mountain Hawks

OK, I'll start. Lehigh s/b in the 12 to 15 range. Real nice team, and coming along. But, not there just yet!

Twentysix
September 26th, 2011, 09:48 AM
1. NDSU

2. GSU

3. UNI

4. MSU

5. APP

6. Wofford

7. UD

8. UNH

9. SUU

10. Lehigh

Most significat win - NDSU over a BCS school

Most significant loss - Montana to streaky unranked school

FCS POTW - Marcus Williams. 2 defensive touchdowns against the gophers, and shutting down one of the best recievers in the B1G.

http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics32/800/SK/SKTWOICDFCVARTC.20110926020219.jpg

135-33 so far on the season. Hopefully we can keep the ratio pretty high.

Pard4Life
September 26th, 2011, 09:59 AM
I am cringing that UNH ended up in my top ten by default...



1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Northern Iowa Panthers
3: Appalachian State Mountaineers
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
6: Georgia Southern Eagles
7: Wofford Terriers
8: James Madison Dukes
9: New Hampshire Wildcats
10: Sam Houston State Bearkats

PantherRob82
September 26th, 2011, 10:01 AM
Interested to see how SHSU stacks up when the AGS, TSN and Coaches polls are released... a win over a FBS has got to mean something, but do people not much stock in the victories (W Illinois, C Arkansas and New Mexico)?

Central Arkansas and Western Illinois wins have been diminished. Any FBS win is good. I have no problem with ranking SHSU in the top 20.

frozennorth
September 26th, 2011, 10:02 AM
NDSU is my clear #1. Their FBS win over Minnesota was the most meaningful FBS win this year. Minnesota is NOT the strongest FBS team by a long shot, however, they showed they can play with teams like USC, they had just got their confidence back with a win the week before, were riding high and IN NO WAY were going to overlook NDSU because they remembered all too clearly losing to them before. Add that to their other wins and their strong performance last year..... = #1 For now at least :)

I would personally say that richmond beat a better team in duke, but the margin of victory makes it hazy.

PantherRob82
September 26th, 2011, 10:03 AM
Some have SIU in their top 10? I have them ranked (in the 11-25 range) based on their good win at SEMO... but their close win over Missouri State, at home, had me drop them a bit this week. The Salukis may be a really good team - maybe we'll know in two weeks when they host the Bison (assuming they can get past their trip to WIU net weekend).

I think SEMO has proved they are not a good win. :)

PantherRob82
September 26th, 2011, 10:04 AM
SUU looks to be pretty good this year. A one point loss on the road in the first game of the season shouldn't punish them too much. Last couple weeks they have looked good.

jcmanson
September 26th, 2011, 10:30 AM
1. Georgia Southern
2. North Dakota State
3. Northern Iowa
4. Montana State
5. New Hampshire
6. JMU
7. App State
8. Lehigh
9. Richmond
10. Sam Houston St

asumike83
September 26th, 2011, 11:10 AM
1: Georgia Southern Eagles
2: Northern Iowa Panthers
3: North Dakota State Bison
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Appalachian State Mountaineers
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
8: New Hampshire Wildcats
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Richmond Spiders

UNH Fanboi
September 26th, 2011, 11:45 AM
I am cringing that UNH ended up in my top ten by default...



1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Northern Iowa Panthers
3: Appalachian State Mountaineers
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
6: Georgia Southern Eagles
7: Wofford Terriers
8: James Madison Dukes
9: New Hampshire Wildcats
10: Sam Houston State Bearkats

Were you cringing when you put Lehigh and Richmond in your top 25 too?

Yes, UNH's defense is shaky, but they still managed to beat two tough teams on the road. They would have some pretty box scores on their resume if they had played bottom feeders and D2 teams at home like some of the other teams in the top 10.

bjtheflamesfan
September 26th, 2011, 11:57 AM
1: Georgia Southern Eagles
2: Appalachian State Mountaineers
3: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Northern Iowa Panthers
6: Montana State Bobcats
7: North Dakota State Bison
8: New Hampshire Wildcats
9: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
10: James Madison Dukes

RabidRabbit
September 26th, 2011, 11:58 AM
1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
4: Appalachian State Mountaineers
5: Northern Iowa Panthers
6: Montana State Bobcats
7: James Madison Dukes
8: New Hampshire Wildcats
9: Wofford Terriers
10: Southern Utah Thunderbirds

SUU went for the win in Brookings on a two point conversion. Make it, it's a win, miss, and Jacks win. Jacks made the T-Birds miss, and put their lone W so far this season. I like how the T-Birds demolished both Sac St. and UNLV. SUU is looking like the team to beat in the GWFC.

When I voted, I was unaware of the JMU suspensions. BTW, Lehigh is 11th, so am anticipating Mountain Hawks to dominate Patriot this season.

UNI Pike
September 26th, 2011, 12:31 PM
I felt the Sam Houston defense, overall, was slightly better than UNI's defense. Offensively, UNI has the very dangerous weapon in your QB. From the running game standpoint, Rennie and Flanders are equally as dangerous, but UNI does have more weapons, as Johnson is extremely impressive. Bell (SHS) is a better passer than Rennie.

***This is my unbiased opinion after watching these two teams, nothing against UNI***

I am a better passer than Rennie, though less mobile than Joe Theisman after is leg was snapped in half. That said, Rennie is much improved compared to last year. Still has a propensity to overthrow receivers, but gettin better.

beauspencer
September 26th, 2011, 01:26 PM
I am a better passer than Rennie, though less mobile than Joe Theisman after is leg was snapped in half.

xlolx

Go Lehigh TU owl
September 26th, 2011, 01:31 PM
When I voted, I was unaware of the JMU suspensions. BTW, Lehigh is 11th, so am anticipating Mountain Hawks to dominate Patriot this season.

The PL is having a very good season so i hardly expect them to dominate the league. Holy Cross is a boarderline Top 25 team and Lafayette is always tough because of the rivalry. I think it's still too early to tell what Bucknell and Georgetown bring to the table. Colgate appears to be the worst team which is hard to believe.

jmufan999
September 26th, 2011, 03:24 PM
My personal opinion is that the JMU suspensions shouldn't affect the rankings. We're ranking the teams based on what they've done so far, and we have a good resume so far. We haven't lost to UR at this time. And if we can somehow pull off a win, the team depth is that much more impressive. Just my opinion.

alvinkayak6
September 26th, 2011, 06:08 PM
I will be interested to see what Sagarin and Sagarin predictor say for the FCS when it comes out. Sagarin predictor is really gonna bump up the NDSU Bison for beating Minnesota by more than 3 points.

Kayak Top 10:

1. Richmond
2. UNI
3. Ga. Southern
4. NDSU
5. Montana State
6. Wofford
7. UNH
8. Southern Utah
9. James Madison University
10. Lehigh

...I have Richmond at number one given the win over Duke (which beat BC, which beat UMass by a lot). NDSU has really impressed me. I don't have App State in my top 10 because of the massive thumping to VT & the close win over UT Chattanooga Mocs. App State is my #11, until they can soundly defeat a weaker Socon team or defeat Georgia Southern or Wofford.

...I think Lehigh at #$10 is deserved. Mountain Hawks just win. Period. Lum to Spadola might be the best thing going in D-I FCS football for a fan. Chris Forcier from Furman might be #2 and Rennie for UNI at #3. Quick for App State is #4. He needs better service from Presly.

UNIFanSince1983
September 26th, 2011, 06:12 PM
But UNH beat Richmond at Richmond this last weekend. They are still your #1 anyways?

Squealofthepig
September 26th, 2011, 06:12 PM
But UNH beat Richmond at Richmond this last weekend. They are still your #1 anyways?

Now you're just nitpicking! ;)

alvinkayak6
September 26th, 2011, 06:13 PM
Sagarin's out.

I'm going with Predictor instad of Elo Chess and combined.

1. NDSU ...... 68.99
2. Montana State ..... 65.76
3. UNI ..... 64.46
4. Ga So ..... 64.08
5. Delaware .... 62.28
6. Maine ....... 61.5
7 down (App State, UNH, Wofford, Montana, S. Utah) no JMU or Richmond or UNH

alvinkayak6
September 26th, 2011, 06:15 PM
UNH got thumped by Toledo, too, though. Sagarin doesn't like Spiders, either. Lot of talent on UNH roster that isn't getting pub: Matt Evans, Kevin Decker, Joey Orlando, Brian Mcnally.

alvinkayak6
September 26th, 2011, 06:18 PM
But UNH beat Richmond at Richmond this last weekend. They are still your #1 anyways?

I am very impressed with the FBS win over an ACC opponent which is under-rated, and I am aware of how much I hate Richmond (snobby preps with inflated perception of relevance in football). Southern Utah is not getting any respect despite owning UNLV which beat Haawwwaiii''iii. I like Indiana State a lot, but it's hard to put them in a top 10 right now. NDSU ... not sure why i can't put them #1 if Sagarin Predictor likes them by 4 points over any FCS team.

asumike83
September 26th, 2011, 06:54 PM
I am very impressed with the FBS win over an ACC opponent which is under-rated, and I am aware of how much I hate Richmond (snobby preps with inflated perception of relevance in football). Southern Utah is not getting any respect despite owning UNLV which beat Haawwwaiii''iii. I like Indiana State a lot, but it's hard to put them in a top 10 right now. NDSU ... not sure why i can't put them #1 if Sagarin Predictor likes them by 4 points over any FCS team.

Just my opinion but if Duke were on my ballot with the FCS teams, they would not crack my top 10. Plus, the #1 team should not lose at home to anyone.

alvinkayak6
September 26th, 2011, 08:14 PM
Should not lose at home to ANYBODY? Im assuming you mean anyone in the FCS. Nobody expects Richmond to beat LSU.

And I certainly think that's a fair position, and I want to be consistent. NDSU should really be my #1 because I'm fond of the Minnesota road win, which was impressive. So on second thought, NDSU should be my #1 followed by UNI, Ga. Southern, and Richmond.

I don't know why but there is always a temptation to put #1 & #2 from separate conferences. I really like the top of the MVFC though. Throw Indiana State in the mix, and it should be a fun ride in the valley.

bojeta
September 26th, 2011, 08:14 PM
Sagarin's out.

I'm going with Predictor instad of Elo Chess and combined.

1. NDSU ...... 68.99
2. Montana State ..... 65.76
3. UNI ..... 64.46
4. Ga So ..... 64.08
5. Delaware .... 62.28
6. Maine ....... 61.5
7 down (App State, UNH, Wofford, Montana, S. Utah) no JMU or Richmond or UNH

Never liked Sagarin's picks before, but I gotta say.... I'm pretty close to him on this one. Here's my top 10:
1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Georgia Southern Eagles
4: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
5: Northern Iowa Panthers
6: South Carolina State Bulldogs
7: Appalachian State Mountaineers
8: Chattanooga Mocs
9: New Hampshire Wildcats
10: Southern Utah Thunderbirds

alvinkayak6
September 26th, 2011, 09:19 PM
Sagarin is really only for gambling purposes. NDSU would be favored over all other FCS teams.

Bojeta, do you really like South Carolina State in your top 10? That seems optimistic. Good defense and kicker, but not sure the offense is all that great. I'm not sure I would see a MEAC team that high.

asumike83
September 26th, 2011, 10:25 PM
Should not lose at home to ANYBODY? Im assuming you mean anyone in the FCS. Nobody expects Richmond to beat LSU.

Nope, I expect UR to beat LSU by at least ten if they come to Richmond! xtroublex

bojeta
September 26th, 2011, 10:51 PM
Sagarin is really only for gambling purposes. NDSU would be favored over all other FCS teams.

Bojeta, do you really like South Carolina State in your top 10? That seems optimistic. Good defense and kicker, but not sure the offense is all that great. I'm not sure I would see a MEAC team that high.

My logic regarding So Car State went like this: Two solid FBS performances and two FCS wins. I've had two chances to watch their first FCS opponent, Bethune Cookman on TV, and while I don't have them currently in my top 25, they could easily be there (defeated Hampton, another team to watch). Then there's the Deleware State game. Probably in the bottom 10 of FCS this year, but still, racking up 69 points tells me there is some offense there. I realize it's a bit sketchy right now. Definitely not going to feel comfortable with my poll for another couple weeks. I've never had my own rankings fluctuate so wildly before. This is an unusual year in my opinion.

Squealofthepig
September 26th, 2011, 10:59 PM
My logic regarding So Car State went like this: Two solid FBS performances and two FCS wins. I've had two chances to watch their first FCS opponent, Bethune Cookman on TV, and while I don't have them currently in my top 25, they could easily be there (defeated Hampton, another team to watch). Then there's the Deleware State game. Probably in the bottom 10 of FCS this year, but still, racking up 69 points tells me there is some offense there. I realize it's a bit sketchy right now. Definitely not going to feel comfortable with my poll for another couple weeks. I've never had my own rankings fluctuate so wildly before. This is an unusual year in my opinion.

Just a view from the other side - I literally had SC State as #26. Their FBS losses were both two+ score affairs (21-6 vs. central Michigan and 38-21 vs. Indiana). These are not good FBS teams, so they wind up being almost non-factors for me. Their wins? B-C looked pretty good opening the season, but I'm not sold on Hampton, and winning by four at home isn't super impressive. And Delaware State? I had thought the flying insects would compete until they gave up three jillion points to Delaware and SC State. Don't get me wrong - the Bulldogs are solidly in my 20-30 range, and should move up as they move through conference play.

Walkon79
September 27th, 2011, 02:42 PM
Unlike many other Bobcat fans. I have no problem putting NDSU a spot ahead of the Cats at this point. Wins over Minot, UC Davis and a struggling Eastern Washington are OK, but the Cats don't have that signature win yet.

I do think they will be top 5 and a seed in the end, and that's the only thing that matters.