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SU DOG
August 14th, 2011, 12:47 PM
No great surprises here, but interesting.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/previews/2011/conf.aspx?c=socon

Skjellyfetti
August 14th, 2011, 01:04 PM
I'd like to hear an argument for Breitenstein over Presley.

james_lawfirm
August 14th, 2011, 01:49 PM
I'd like to hear an argument for Breitenstein over Presley.

I think it would go like this:

Breitenstein's better than Presley!

Is not!

Is too!

Is not!

Is too!

I have a great idea. LET'S SETTLE THIS ON THE FIELD!

Apphole
August 14th, 2011, 03:26 PM
Well all I'll say is that it's easy for a RB to stand out when his team throws a pass once a season.

The Eagle's Cliff
August 14th, 2011, 03:27 PM
Pre-Season:

1. App
2. Wofford
3. GSU
4. Chatt

As much as I'd like to, I'm not buying in to all the Georgia Southern hype. Depth is still an issue and speed is not back to dominating levels yet and won't be for a couple more years. The Eagles are a legitimate contender, but not a favorite.

GSU has to play App at Boone and the two teams have only won 30% on the road against each other. App is the SoCon Champ/favorite until proven otherwise.

Wofford is very capable of winning the SoCon outright.

Chatty may or may not be legit. This season is their best chance to be better than 6-5 in a long time. We'll see if they can turn the corner.

Skjellyfetti
August 14th, 2011, 03:30 PM
Well all I'll say is that it's easy for a RB to stand out when his team throws a pass once a season.

And his rushing stats still aren't that much better than DP's.

citdog
August 14th, 2011, 03:33 PM
Well all I'll say is that it's easy for a RB to stand out when his team throws a pass once a season.

Actually, and not shocking anyone, you're WRONG AGAIN. When everyone knows what is coming and dude STILL runs all over you that is MORE impressive.

Apphole
August 14th, 2011, 03:50 PM
Not on our defense. Ever

OL FU
August 14th, 2011, 05:01 PM
Well all I'll say is that it's easy for a RB to stand out when his team throws a pass once a season.

there is a different way too look at that. You know he is going to run the ball damn near every play. Got to stop him.

Blueandwhitefightfight
August 14th, 2011, 05:01 PM
Not on our defense. Ever

Haha. Right. Breitenstein is legit. Even GSU's defense couldn't stop him last year. Easily the best offensive player in the conference.

And that is impressive because Pressley and UTC's QB are no slouches.

OL FU
August 14th, 2011, 05:01 PM
Actually, and not shocking anyone, you're WRONG AGAIN. When everyone knows what is coming and dude STILL runs all over you that is MORE impressive.

Oh crap, I agreed with citdogxbawlingx

ASU3481
August 14th, 2011, 05:10 PM
Last year's game stats vs APP State

Eric Breitenstein 17 CAR 39 YDS 2.7 AVG 0 TD 7 LG - So I agree with apphole not on us!

Horseshoe App
August 14th, 2011, 05:23 PM
Last year's game stats vs APP State

Eric Breitenstein 17 CAR 39 YDS 2.7 AVG 0 TD 7 LG - So I agree with apphole not on us!

Not trying to stir the pot, but as a freshman, he ran for allot of yards on us on Halloween night. We did beat the crap out of Wofford that night. He also had a fumble that night. I just hope Kimbrough can shadow him like DJ Smith did last year.

Apphole
August 14th, 2011, 05:39 PM
Last year's game stats vs APP State

Eric Breitenstein 17 CAR 39 YDS 2.7 AVG 0 TD 7 LG - So I agree with apphole not on us!

What he said

Skjellyfetti
August 14th, 2011, 05:41 PM
When everyone knows what is coming and dude STILL runs all over you that is MORE impressive.

Is there anyone in the conference that doesn't run all over the Citadel?

ASUTodd
August 14th, 2011, 06:38 PM
Is there anyone in the conference that doesn't run all over the Citadel?

HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... I spit Pepsi out of my nose when I read that!

Apphole
August 14th, 2011, 07:04 PM
Anyone in the conference literally. As in the Samford womens volleyball team could run all over the Citadel in football.

citdog
August 14th, 2011, 07:30 PM
Is there anyone in the conference that doesn't run all over the Citadel?

2011 is when we begin to RISE AGAIN! We will be MUCH improved or we will be looking for another football coach.

citdog
August 14th, 2011, 07:42 PM
HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... I spit my brothers pecker out of my mouth when I read that!

We are accepting of ALL here at AGS.

Welcome to the forum.

citdog
August 14th, 2011, 08:01 PM
Anyone in the conference literally. As in the Samford womens volleyball team could run all over the Citadel in football.

Hole...... Your WEAK attempts at smack are noticed and swatted away like a gnat. This is the BIG LEAGUES son.....not the app board where y'all slap overalls and swap o'possum recipes.

HighCountry
August 14th, 2011, 08:32 PM
2011 is when we begin to RISE AGAIN! We will be MUCH improved or we will be looking for another football coach.

Is this going to coincide with the SOUTH RISING AGAIN?

Milktruck74
August 14th, 2011, 08:34 PM
The more I look at the SoCon in 2011, the more I'm realizing how tight it is at the top. I'd like to see the Mocs at the top, but I can't bee too upset being behind 3 good football teams. I mill make this BOLD Prediction....The Mocs may not win the SoCon this year, but they will be the reason Woffy, App or GSU doesn't!!!!

AppMan
August 14th, 2011, 09:33 PM
Actually, and not shocking anyone, you're WRONG AGAIN. When everyone knows what is coming and dude STILL runs all over you that is MORE impressive.

Thinking the Apps hold him under 25 yards this time around. This is the year ASU goes back to the days of winning with a dominating defense. The new 3-4 they are rolling out features big, fast guys all the way through the secondary. Starting front line goes 6-6 305, 6-1 315, 6-6 315, backed up by 6-4 285, 6-1 290, 6-1 305 and they aren't a bunch of slugs. LB's are 6-2 240, 6-2 230, 5-11 240, 6-2 250 backed up by 6-2 230, 5-10 205, 5-11 215, 6-2 225 and all very mobile. The secondary starters are 6-0 190, 6-0 185, 6-0 200, 5-11 190, backed up by 6-2 195, 5-10 175, 6-2 200, 6-1 185 with exceptional speed. Watched Saturday's scrimmage and what the Mountaineers put on the field in 2011 won't be your typical FCS defense.

citdog
August 14th, 2011, 09:54 PM
Wow the TRUE colors of our mountain friends is coming out......you give one JEW a meaningless preseason award for ATHLETIC prowess and all the closet eichmann's show up.

Anti-Semitism is an UGLY thing indeed!

citdog
August 14th, 2011, 09:56 PM
Is this going to coincide with the SOUTH RISING AGAIN?

One can only HOPE

Skjellyfetti
August 14th, 2011, 10:02 PM
Wow the TRUE colors of our mountain friends is coming out......you give one JEW a meaningless preseason award for ATHLETIC prowess and all the closet eichmann's show up.

Anti-Semitism is an UGLY thing indeed!

Never knew citdog was a deputy in the PC police. Hmm.

citdog
August 14th, 2011, 10:06 PM
Never knew citdog was a deputy in the PC police. Hmm.


**** pc


Also you

AppMan
August 14th, 2011, 10:11 PM
Is this going to coincide with the SOUTH RISING AGAIN?

The South has been rising the past 40 years.

PaladinFan
August 15th, 2011, 07:03 AM
It appears even the journalists do not have any idea what Furman will look like in 2011.

It's been a while since Furman has been completely written off as a contender. I'm hearing good things out of Greenville, though. I imagine the Paladins are going to suprise some folks.

Smitty
August 15th, 2011, 07:29 AM
So apparently every team is going to be a surprise in the SoCon next year. Well except for Samford they will be mediocre.

chattownmocs
August 15th, 2011, 07:54 AM
I'd like to hear an argument for Breitenstein over Presley.

1,664 yards, 22 TDs

asumike83
August 15th, 2011, 08:01 AM
1,664 yards, 22 TDs

2,631 yards, 21 TDs passing
1,039 yards, 13 TDs rushing

Accelerati Incredibilus
August 15th, 2011, 08:03 AM
2,631 yards, 21 TDs passing
1,039 yards, 13 TDs rushing

Game, Set, Match

chattownmocs
August 15th, 2011, 08:16 AM
2,631 yards, 21 TDs passing
1,039 yards, 13 TDs rushing

So basically its pretty easy to see why someone would go with breitenstein.

chattownmocs
August 15th, 2011, 08:18 AM
Game, Set, Match


??? You are really overvaluing those numbers for a QB in your offensive system. I thought those numbers would be better.

asumike83
August 15th, 2011, 09:03 AM
??? You are really overvaluing those numbers for a QB in your offensive system. I thought those numbers would be better.

Agree to disagree I suppose, Breitenstein is a great back and is also a Boone kid that I like to see succeed. A 2,000/1,000 season is a rare accomplishment though, so I'll take it as a compliment to our offense if you think that is underachieving.

chattownmocs
August 15th, 2011, 09:12 AM
Agree to disagree I suppose, Breitenstein is a great back and is also a Boone kid that I like to see succeed. A 2,000/1,000 season is a rare accomplishment though, so I'll take it as a compliment to our offense if you think that is underachieving.

Not necessarily underachieving but I doubt your coaches would be happy with much less from the position.

StorminASU
August 15th, 2011, 09:24 AM
Is this going to coincide with the SOUTH RISING AGAIN?

As much as he talks about "rising again," I'm starting to think he's either on a healthy dose of Viagra, or he has penis envy.

StorminASU
August 15th, 2011, 09:28 AM
So apparently every team is going to be a surprise in the SoCon next year. Well except for Samford they will be mediocre.

You seemed to conveniently forget to include Western in there with Samford.

On second thought I take that back, I think Western will surprise everyone by finishing at/near the bottom of the conference again. It'll be surprising because "How are they doing this bad this consistently?"

T-Dog
August 15th, 2011, 09:51 AM
It appears even the journalists do not have any idea what Furman will look like in 2011.

It's been a while since Furman has been completely written off as a contender. I'm hearing good things out of Greenville, though. I imagine the Paladins are going to suprise some folks.

So...what will Furman look like in 2011?

Smitty
August 15th, 2011, 09:51 AM
You seemed to conveniently forget to include Western in there with Samford.

On second thought I take that back, I think Western will surprise everyone by finishing at/near the bottom of the conference again. It'll be surprising because "How are they doing this bad this consistently?"

No Western is going to surprise people this year by coming home with 3 wins instead of the 2 for the past 3 years... Wins against Mars Hill, Citadel, and their open weekend.

Saint3333
August 15th, 2011, 09:55 AM
The South has been rising the past 40 years.

The population certainly has as those Yankees continue to move to locations with better quality of life aka the South.

Air Conditioning - the greatest and worst invention from a Southern's perspective.

Apphole
August 15th, 2011, 10:29 AM
Of course the main problem in Boone are the Floridiots.

Smitty
August 15th, 2011, 11:58 AM
Of course the main problem in Boone are the Floridiots.

Ugh lets just increase that to all of the mountains in NC...

Apphole
August 15th, 2011, 12:03 PM
Orange on the license plate=bad driver

StorminASU
August 15th, 2011, 12:09 PM
Orange on the license plate=bad driver

They all try to be incognito too and get those Blue Ridge Parkway tags. I'm sure there are a ton of NC drivers who get those too, but get in behind a Lexus with one for 3 minutes and their secret identity as a Floridiot has been discovered.

The Eagle's Cliff
August 15th, 2011, 01:11 PM
No Western is going to surprise people this year by coming home with 3 wins instead of the 2 for the past 3 years... Wins against Mars Hill, Citadel, and their open weekend.

Western wins the Battle of SoCon Bands. It's just a little sad that the Western fan base seems to care more about that than the football team/game.

PaladinNation
August 15th, 2011, 01:34 PM
So...what will Furman look like in 2011?

Thanks for asking T-Dog :D Can't say I don't blame folks for forgetting about Furman.

Furman returns 14 players, off a season that was plagued with inconsistent play. Bruce Fowler is quite a bit different than Bobby Lamb he's firey but in a disciplined old-school way. BF in my opinion is closer in coaching style to Bobby Johnson and Dick Sheridan than Bobby Lamb/Jimmy Satterfield… BF is a defensive minded coach.

As far as the team goes… I would look for a far more disciplined team on both sides of the ball. My guess is the defense will be very game prepared, play fast, and far more aggressive. Furman has the defensive personnel to be a headache to any team in the SoCon. I'm pretty excited about the future defensive outlook for Furman.

Offensively, I guess that's the question mark. Quarterback play will be better than last season. Worley was so up and down, it can only improve. Derrick and Forcier are locked in a battle, not sure who wins. Interesting twist freshman Travis Eman looks like #3, he's still learning the playbook but he's got serious skills. I can see why Boston College offered as a DB and why UNH wanted him… he's not a typical FU quarterback, he's burly, tattooed, has a swagger.

One more thing Furman… could have the offensive surprise player of the SoCon. Hank McCloud is #2 tailback. McCloud has been the show during the pre-season.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3jIZB7nSKI

Reign of Terrier
August 15th, 2011, 01:53 PM
I think Wofford wins it this year over GSU, but a case could be made for GSU, App, and even Chattanooga winning the conference as well. I think Wofford has a shot at having a very special year and an even improved defense. Hopefully the offense will improve from just average to something special as well. I can't wait to watch us pound the hell out of PC to the tune of about 34-3 opening day, you can mark that down

PaladinFan
August 15th, 2011, 01:57 PM
So...what will Furman look like in 2011?

Truly, no one knows.

Much is made of the "first year coaching staff." Let's get real. The Furman staff probably has as much combined experience as any other team in the SoCon. You've got guys that were as high as coordinators in the SEC. Furman didn't take some flyer on a new young up and comer. These guys know the school, know the history, and have shown success in the best football conference in the country. I don't think that will matter a dime.

We know that two of the conferences' and the country's best defensive players will be back. Steed and Anderson are just about as good as it gets at this level.

Most fans are of the impression that the team will go back to its old "smash mouth" style of football. Tough between the tackles running. Options on the edges. Play action passing. There's some youth on the interior OL, but the tackles are both all-SoCon and the running backs are talented and numerous.

We know that Furman has ditched the purple facemasks for white ones.

We know that we have one insanely fast quarterback on roster. We've never really gotten to see him on the field without the training wheels.

We know the new administration at Furman is more committed to athletic championships than the last one. They have already made that obvious.

I've heard a lot of growing excitement about this team and the future. They have a tough test in their first game against a tough Coastal Carolina team. I think we will learn a lot about the 2011 Paladins as early as week one. If they go down to Conway and blow the doors off, I like our chances.

PaladinFan
August 15th, 2011, 01:59 PM
Thanks for asking T-Dog :D Can't say I don't blame folks for forgetting about Furman.

Furman returns 14 players, off a season that was plagued with inconsistent play. Bruce Fowler is quite a bit different than Bobby Lamb he's firey but in a disciplined old-school way. BF in my opinion is closer in coaching style to Bobby Johnson and Dick Sheridan than Bobby Lamb/Jimmy Satterfield… BF is a defensive minded coach.

As far as the team goes… I would look for a far more disciplined team on both sides of the ball. My guess is the defense will be very game prepared, play fast, and far more aggressive. Furman has the defensive personnel to be a headache to any team in the SoCon. I'm pretty excited about the future defensive outlook for Furman.

Offensively, I guess that's the question mark. Quarterback play will be better than last season. Worley was so up and down, it can only improve. Derrick and Forcier are locked in a battle, not sure who wins. Interesting twist freshman Travis Eman looks like #3, he's still learning the playbook but he's got serious skills. I can see why Boston College offered as a DB and why UNH wanted him… he's not a typical FU quarterback, he's burly, tattooed, has a swagger.

One more thing Furman… could have the offensive surprise player of the SoCon. Hank McCloud is #2 tailback. McCloud has been the show during the pre-season.



Also because he's from fargin' Canada.

Smitty
August 15th, 2011, 02:04 PM
Western wins the Battle of SoCon Bands. It's just a little sad that the Western fan base seems to care more about that than the football team/game.

When I was in band I got told all the time that if the football team was half as good as the band it would be a totally different outcome.

The way I see it is, the band will be there with a great performance whether the team wins or loses. So if you go out to a football game and *shocker* the team loses, well at least you got to see a good performance by the band. While I would rather see a win and a good band, until the football team gets better it will always be the band accompanied by the football team.

Saint3333
August 15th, 2011, 02:16 PM
I think Wofford wins it this year over GSU, but a case could be made for GSU, App, and even Chattanooga winning the conference as well. I think Wofford has a shot at having a very special year and an even improved defense. Hopefully the offense will improve from just average to something special as well. I can't wait to watch us pound the hell out of PC to the tune of about 34-3 opening day, you can mark that down

Didn't Wofford lose a couple QBs or RBs in the offseason?

StorminASU
August 15th, 2011, 02:34 PM
I think Wofford wins it this year over GSU, but a case could be made for GSU, App, and even Chattanooga winning the conference as well. I think Wofford has a shot at having a very special year and an even improved defense. Hopefully the offense will improve from just average to something special as well. I can't wait to watch us pound the hell out of PC to the tune of about 34-3 opening day, you can mark that down

...Yeah...good luck with that...

SU DOG
August 15th, 2011, 02:35 PM
So apparently every team is going to be a surprise in the SoCon next year. Well except for Samford they will be mediocre.

Don't bet the farm on that assumption, which I realize is the popular opinion. I believe that Samford will be far better than most think. One thing is for sure - we will find out very soon.

Apphole
August 15th, 2011, 02:39 PM
Don't bet the farm on that assumption, which I realize is the popular opinion. I believe that Samford will be far better than most think. One thing is for sure - we will find out very soon.
We already "marked our calendars" for you to upset GaSo

Apphole
August 15th, 2011, 02:44 PM
When I was in band I got told all the time that if the football team was half as good as the band it would be a totally different outcome.

The way I see it is, the band will be there with a great performance whether the team wins or loses. So if you go out to a football game and *shocker* the team loses, well at least you got to see a good performance by the band. While I would rather see a win and a good band, until the football team gets better it will always be the band accompanied by the football team.
No offense, but I've always thought Western's band was a little overrated. I went to the App/WCU game last year and saw them. The show was more centered on pyrotechnics and moving around big Styrofoam shapes than anything else. It looked more like a Prince concert than a collegiate marching band. Plus, they do the same show every game rather than learning a whole new one like App and other bands do. I mean they better sound good with all that practice. I did enjoy the show though don't get me wrong, but I think Western's percieved band superiority has more to do with the whole "we have to have something" phenomenon.

Smitty
August 15th, 2011, 02:53 PM
No offense, but I've always thought Western's band was a little overrated. I went to the App/WCU game last year and saw them. The show was more centered on pyrotechnics and moving around big Styrofoam shapes than anything else. It looked more like a Prince concert than a collegiate marching band. Plus, they do the same show every game rather than learning a whole new one like App and other bands do. I mean they better sound good with all that practice. I did enjoy the show though don't get me wrong, but I think Western's percieved band superiority has more to do with the whole "we have to have something" phenomenon.

Yeah I wasn't really big on the whole rock "U" theme they had last year. The choice of music was good but the U was just a bad joke.

As for the new show per game, I don't mind bands like that. They have to have easier song choices and drill to be able to learn it in a week but if done correctly it can be entertaining.

I just hope that I get to watch some football this year.

citdog
August 15th, 2011, 03:03 PM
Apphole and cmitty finally found common ground! They BOTH blow or beat on something.

Apphole
August 15th, 2011, 03:08 PM
Apphole and cmitty finally found common ground! They BOTH blow or beat on something.

Nope never been in marching band, but I beat on your wife's tomtoms

PaladinFan
August 15th, 2011, 03:34 PM
Don't bet the farm on that assumption, which I realize is the popular opinion. I believe that Samford will be far better than most think. One thing is for sure - we will find out very soon.

Is Taliaferro still the QB?

Reign of Terrier
August 15th, 2011, 03:47 PM
Didn't Wofford lose a couple QBs or RBs in the offseason?
yes, no starters though. We lost one starter, a safety who started because of an injury to the initial starter, who is back this season

...Yeah...good luck with that...

It's PC....the bottomfeeder of the Big South....Not much luck is needed. We have a lot of potential this year, I wouldn't be surprised by anything

SU DOG
August 15th, 2011, 03:55 PM
Dustin is a Sr. this season, and may or may not be the starter. He currently has his hands full because RS-Fr. Trett Hardman is challenging him for the job. Hardman was a 3***Rivals QB coming out of high school, and is an athletic 6-4, 233 lbs.

PaladinFan
August 15th, 2011, 04:01 PM
Dustin is a Sr. this season, and may or may not be the starter. He currently has his hands full because RS-Fr. Trett Hardman is challenging him for the job. Hardman was a 3***Rivals QB coming out of high school, and is an athletic 6-4, 233 lbs.

I have been suprised with him. I expected him to be a SoCon force after his stellar freshman season, but it only seems like he has regressed. Not sure if that is just my impression, whether he played well above his head as a freshman, or the talent around him just isn't as good as it was that season. Thoughts?

AppMan
August 15th, 2011, 04:07 PM
Orange on the license plate=bad driver

Waaaaayyyyyyy back when I was in school during the mid 70's the locals had bumper stickers that read "Drive Right, This Ain't Florida"

AppMan
August 15th, 2011, 04:10 PM
Western wins the Battle of SoCon Bands. It's just a little sad that the Western fan base seems to care more about that than the football team/game.

No real college band depends on generators and amplifiers.

citdog
August 15th, 2011, 04:13 PM
Nope never been in marching band, but I beat on your wife's tomtoms


Why any man would voluntarily place himself in such a condition of slavery is beyond me.

Try again

SU DOG
August 15th, 2011, 04:19 PM
I have been suprised with him. I expected him to be a SoCon force after his stellar freshman season, but it only seems like he has regressed. Not sure if that is just my impression, whether he played well above his head as a freshman, or the talent around him just isn't as good as it was that season. Thoughts?

You are exactly right about his Fr. year being his best. We would all like to know what happened to his confidence. His surrounding cast has not been the problem, but the former OC might have been. He seems to have a new enthusiasm with Coach Lashlee and the new offense. Good kid who needs to have a good Sr. year.

T-Dog
August 15th, 2011, 07:07 PM
So let's go over the prognosis so far.

-ASU will be a contender
-GSU will be a contender
-Wofford will be a contender
-UTC will be a contender
-Furman will be a sleeper
-The Citadel will be improved
-Samford will be improved
-Elon is a question mark
-Western might win 3 games

Apparently the bar is being raised. xscanx xslapfightxxcrazyx

Smitty
August 15th, 2011, 07:22 PM
No real college band depends on generators and amplifiers.

True but we do have 374 others that actually play without the need for generators...

eaglewraith
August 15th, 2011, 10:13 PM
No real college band depends on generators and amplifiers.

Tell that to Furman's band last year.

The fans went crazy for them playing a Lady Gaga song and were silent the rest of the time

StorminASU
August 15th, 2011, 11:06 PM
yes, no starters though. We lost one starter, a safety who started because of an injury to the initial starter, who is back this season


It's PC....the bottomfeeder of the Big South....Not much luck is needed. We have a lot of potential this year, I wouldn't be surprised by anything

I was referring to Wofford winning the conference actually. You'll need luck for that one

Reign of Terrier
August 16th, 2011, 06:19 AM
Another interesting tidbit...if GSU/Wofford only win 7 games this year they could miss the playoffs, as they play sub D1 opponents

PaladinFan
August 16th, 2011, 06:50 AM
Tell that to Furman's band last year.

The fans went crazy for them playing a Lady Gaga song and were silent the rest of the time

The crowd silence had more to do with a putrid second half on offense than anything else.

The fans like Furman's band, which for my money, puts on the best show in the SoCon. Other schools have bigger bands, but Furman's group is really less about "marching" and more about "entertainment."

GSUsTALON
August 16th, 2011, 07:17 AM
Pre-Season:

1. App
2. Wofford
3. GSU
4. Chatt

As much as I'd like to, I'm not buying in to all the Georgia Southern hype. Depth is still an issue and speed is not back to dominating levels yet and won't be for a couple more years. The Eagles are a legitimate contender, but not a favorite.GSU has to play App at Boone and the two teams have only won 30% on the road against each other. App is the SoCon Champ/favorite until proven otherwise.

Wofford is very capable of winning the SoCon outright.

Chatty may or may not be legit. This season is their best chance to be better than 6-5 in a long time. We'll see if they can turn the corner.



I Agree with your statements

AppMan
August 16th, 2011, 03:08 PM
The crowd silence had more to do with a putrid second half on offense than anything else.

The fans like Furman's band, which for my money, puts on the best show in the SoCon. Other schools have bigger bands, but Furman's group is really less about "marching" and more about "entertainment."

Don't know who introduced the concept of amplified sound to college bands but they ought to be run out of the country. I’ve heard plenty of small bands that put on fine performances without the use of electricity. I would not want to be lugging around one of those amplified instruments on a wet field. In the SmallCon, The Citadel is one that stands out and Elon has stepped up their effort over the past few years. I saw them play WKU in City Stadium several years ago with what amounted to a Jazz Band in the stands and the Williams High School Band doing the half time show. Then on the other end is of the spectrum is good ole Wofford who uses piped in music and borrows local high school bands for halftime.

Eaglesrus
August 16th, 2011, 03:12 PM
Another interesting tidbit...if GSU/Wofford only win 7 games this year they could miss the playoffs, as they play sub D1 opponents

We're well aware of that, you don't need to keep reminding us :p

Sir William
August 16th, 2011, 03:21 PM
The fans like Furman's band, which for my money, puts on the best show in the SoCon. Other schools have bigger bands, but Furman's group is really less about "marching" and more about "entertainment."

Speaking as a loyal and long-time Paladin, I agree that Furman's band puts on a good show...at half-time. During the game however, they are simply pathetic, and have been for several years. I get so tired of hearing the same old lame mantra that FU is different, more cultured, more musically-ascetic, etc. Baloney! The FU band is full of nerds and wimps. Always has been. Ever heard Wake Forest's band? They get into the game! Heck, even North Greenville's band (which is rag-tag at best) is more sprited than FU's!

Forgive me for my rant, but I've heard the litany of excuses for the lack of spirit regarding the FU band for years and years, and quite frankly it sickens many FU alums. It's embarassing when App or GaSo bring their bands to Paladin Stadium...they put us to shame.

Except at half-time. xcoffeex

Like anyone really cares about how well the brass section played that Lady Gaga tune.




Ok, I feel a little better now.

Apphole
August 16th, 2011, 03:30 PM
Don't know who introduced the concept of amplified sound to college bands but they ought to be run out of the country. I’ve heard plenty of small bands that put on fine performances without the use of electricity. I would not want to be lugging around one of those amplified instruments on a wet field. In the SmallCon, The Citadel is one that stands out and Elon has stepped up their effort over the past few years. I saw them play WKU in City Stadium several years ago with what amounted to a Jazz Band in the stands and the Williams High School Band doing the half time show. Then on the other end is of the spectrum is good ole Wofford who uses piped in music and borrows local high school bands for halftime.
I can't wait to see Nick Cannon and the NC A&T band this year

biggie
August 16th, 2011, 03:30 PM
No band should ever play 'gaga' songs, nothing of 'gaga' should be heard by the public actually. Cringe when App's does. Wished bands were a little less girly/nerdy.

citdog
August 16th, 2011, 03:33 PM
Speaking as a loyal and long-time Paladin, I agree that Furman's band puts on a good show...at half-time. During the game however, they are simply pathetic, and have been for several years. I get so tired of hearing the same old lame mantra that FU is different, more cultured, more musically-ascetic, etc. Baloney! The FU band is full of nerds and wimps. Always has been. Ever heard Wake Forest's band? They get into the game! Heck, even North Greenville's band (which is rag-tag at best) is more sprited than FU's!

Forgive me for my rant, but I've heard the litany of excuses for the lack of spirit regarding the FU band for years and years, and quite frankly it sickens many FU alums. It's embarassing when App or GaSo bring their bands to Paladin Stadium...they put us to shame.

Except at half-time. xcoffeex

Like anyone really cares about how well the brass section played that Lady Gaga tune.




Ok, I feel a little better now.


Two words........


EXTERMINATE VERMIN

Apphole
August 16th, 2011, 03:42 PM
EXTERMINATE MORMON

phoenix3
August 16th, 2011, 05:15 PM
Elon is considering hiring A&T's band for halftime shows.

PaladinFan
August 17th, 2011, 07:17 AM
No band should ever play 'gaga' songs, nothing of 'gaga' should be heard by the public actually. Cringe when App's does. Wished bands were a little less girly/nerdy.

Those stalwarts and purists among us agree. Gaga is better than "no band" in my opinion. I'll take the occassional fight song, rock you like a hurricane when the Paladins come on the field, and occassional fan favorite or two.

ElonPride
August 17th, 2011, 08:04 AM
Elon is considering hiring A&T's band for halftime shows.

xlolx

Out of all that I've seen in FCS, A&T is my favorite.

Apphole
August 17th, 2011, 08:10 AM
When they installed the new sound system last year KBS turned into Cluuuuuub Kidd Brewer. They played way too much music and even interrupted the band sometimes. I miss the days of mostly band music with a little ACDC. I like the "all I do is win" by Tpain but Cotton Eyed Joe should never be played again. That's kinda Montana's thing and it's a God awful song anyway.

Smitty
August 17th, 2011, 11:36 AM
That is what is also happening at Western with the new video board. Gotta keep the band quiet while there is an advertisement going on the board.

AppState913
August 17th, 2011, 12:54 PM
When they installed the new sound system last year KBS turned into Cluuuuuub Kidd Brewer. They played way too much music and even interrupted the band sometimes. I miss the days of mostly band music with a little ACDC. I like the "all I do is win" by Tpain but Cotton Eyed Joe should never be played again. That's kinda Montana's thing and it's a God awful song anyway.

Haha, funny story. I worked in the ASU Athletic Dept. last year and let's just say they are not big fans of the band up there. The band director is apparently hard to work with and doesn't start his band up when he's supposed to. So the sound people just start playing something to fill the silence. As for Cotton Eyed Joe... we tried to get it off. Basically we had to choose between that and Party in the USA by Miley Cyrus to be kicked off the list, so we put a poll up on the screen and luckily Miley Cyrus won. I'm sure this year they will try their hardest to eliminate Cotton Eyed Joe. If you can believe it, tons of people complain when we don't play that song, so we have to do polls and such to make it a legit reason to cut the song.

Reign of Terrier
August 17th, 2011, 12:59 PM
Wofford doesn't have a band :(

Apphole
August 17th, 2011, 01:14 PM
Haha, funny story. I worked in the ASU Athletic Dept. last year and let's just say they are not big fans of the band up there. The band director is apparently hard to work with and doesn't start his band up when he's supposed to. So the sound people just start playing something to fill the silence. As for Cotton Eyed Joe... we tried to get it off. Basically we had to choose between that and Party in the USA by Miley Cyrus to be kicked off the list, so we put a poll up on the screen and luckily Miley Cyrus won. I'm sure this year they will try their hardest to eliminate Cotton Eyed Joe. If you can believe it, tons of people complain when we don't play that song, so we have to do polls and such to make it a legit reason to cut the song.

Ha! Yeah I forgot to mention that one. I'd probably take Joe over Miley. Thanks for the insight though. I had no idea that the band director was a tool. Luckily, I heard we have a new director this year so hopefully the relationship can improve.

PaladinFan
August 17th, 2011, 03:22 PM
Wofford doesn't have a band :(

we know :)

AppSt.09
August 17th, 2011, 03:44 PM
Ha! Yeah I forgot to mention that one. I'd probably take Joe over Miley. Thanks for the insight though. I had no idea that the band director was a tool. Luckily, I heard we have a new director this year so hopefully the relationship can improve.

I marched the last two years of the Championship run, the director was not a tool. It was probably a lot of growing pains with the addition of the piped in music competing with band playing time as I can attest to the fact that its hard to play at the right times without the piped in music. However he has now moved on to UCF

SoCon48
August 17th, 2011, 04:06 PM
Haha. Right. Breitenstein is legit. Even GSU's defense couldn't stop him last year. Easily the best offensive player in the conference.

And that is impressive because Pressley and UTC's QB are no slouches.

Even GSU's defense?
Britenstein gained 39 yards and no TD's vs ASU's defense last year.
Sorry just saw something similar had been posted.

SoCon48
August 17th, 2011, 04:09 PM
The more I look at the SoCon in 2011, the more I'm realizing how tight it is at the top. I'd like to see the Mocs at the top, but I can't bee too upset being behind 3 good football teams. I mill make this BOLD Prediction....The Mocs may not win the SoCon this year, but they will be the reason Woffy, App or GSU doesn't!!!!

So who will beat out Wofford, App, GSU and Chatt??

SoCon48
August 17th, 2011, 04:18 PM
Western wins the Battle of SoCon Bands. It's just a little sad that the Western fan base seems to care more about that than the football team/game.

What makes WCU's band look better than it is is the multitude of non-instrument carriers prancing around. The sound is nothing spectatcular even though they get to practice the same list week end week out.

AppMan
August 17th, 2011, 10:06 PM
Haha, funny story. I worked in the ASU Athletic Dept. last year and let's just say they are not big fans of the band up there. The band director is apparently hard to work with and doesn't start his band up when he's supposed to. So the sound people just start playing something to fill the silence. As for Cotton Eyed Joe... we tried to get it off. Basically we had to choose between that and Party in the USA by Miley Cyrus to be kicked off the list, so we put a poll up on the screen and luckily Miley Cyrus won. I'm sure this year they will try their hardest to eliminate Cotton Eyed Joe. If you can believe it, tons of people complain when we don't play that song, so we have to do polls and such to make it a legit reason to cut the song.

I always found Scott Tobias to be very friendly and easy to talk to. He always entertained ideas and acted on some, like my suggestion to play "Celebration" after each win. IMO, he was by far the best marching band director we have had at ASU since the days of Joe Phelps. I think it was over eagerness of some of young guys to play music over the PA more than anything else. The first few games they played when teams lined up, during the play, when audio was being played for a commercial or other announcement. It was awful. The thing that hacked me off the most was playing as ASU - a no huddle team - was at the line trying to call plays. Some home field advantage that was. I personally don't think recorded music has any place in college athletics once the ball is kicked or tipped. Unless you're Wofford.

Why take a poll? Somebody needs to man up and make a decision. My biggest issue is playing 2001 before the team entrance. That is about as bad as it gets, especially considering everyone knows USC has been doing it since the 1970's. IMO, it would be really cool if we could get those 25,000+ fans to say "Welcome to the Rock" along with Sean Connery in the video. Always thought the athletic department needed to use Friday night before the first home game for a big pep rally at KBS and go over some of this stuff. Break in the new music and get all the crowd interaction stuff going.

Skjellyfetti
August 17th, 2011, 10:15 PM
Always thought the athletic department needed to use Friday night before the first home game for a big pep rally at KBS and go over some of this stuff. Break in the new music and get all the crowd interaction stuff going.

This is a good idea.

AppState913
August 17th, 2011, 10:16 PM
Yeah I like the Friday night idea, but I think that's what they're trying to get Fan Fest to be like. Getting the fans to know the players, but also showing them the cheers and the excitement around KBS, although this usually doesn't happen at Fan Fest. As for 2001, I'm pretty sure the idea was stolen from USC haha. I really miss Yosef driving in on a Harley but apparently the contract was up and they didn't want to renew it. They should have just purchased one though. (That idea was brought up but ultimately was shut down I think) One reason for doing a poll is that it utilizes the screen as well as the texting thing. They are really trying to push people to get registered for the texting so that was an easy way to get lots of people to do it. A new entrance and a new way to get the crowd involved in the entrance is definitely needed IMO.

Mountaineer
August 17th, 2011, 11:29 PM
Why take a poll? Somebody needs to man up and make a decision. My biggest issue is playing 2001 before the team entrance.

Tobias is/was a stand up guy from what I've heard as well. My aunt worked in the School of Music and said everyone liked him a great deal. Sad to see him gone. Hope the band is as strong this year as it has been under his leadership.

Agreed on the entrance stuff. It seems like they've used a different one each of the last few years - 2001, the awful App Anthem rap, etc. It'd be nice to find something kinda sorta original and stick with it.

PaladinFan
August 18th, 2011, 06:58 AM
Even GSU's defense?
Britenstein gained 39 yards and no TD's vs ASU's defense last year.
Sorry just saw something similar had been posted.

Britenstein is a good player. However, he does not rank in that "Jerome Felton category" where everyone on the field, sidelines, in the stands, pressbox, or watching on TV knows he's getting the ball and can't do anything to stop him.

AppState913
August 18th, 2011, 08:35 AM
Tobias is/was a stand up guy from what I've heard as well. My aunt worked in the School of Music and said everyone liked him a great deal. Sad to see him gone. Hope the band is as strong this year as it has been under his leadership.

Agreed on the entrance stuff. It seems like they've used a different one each of the last few years - 2001, the awful App Anthem rap, etc. It'd be nice to find something kinda sorta original and stick with it.

Yeah I never met the guy. I just think that he and the Athletic Dept never saw eye to eye. And about being over eager to use the PA system is definitely the right way to put it. Since the speakers were redone I think everyone really wanted to show off what we had by using it all the time.

OL FU
August 18th, 2011, 11:51 AM
Wofford doesn't have a band :(

But you have a fight song. I wrote it for you

Bite Bite Bite those ankles
Make those ankles swell
JumP Jump Jump for Glory
L'il dogs give 'em Hellxhurrayxxhurrayx

Man I love that songxnodx