SoCon Coaches Poll

[chattanoogamocs]

Place School (1st Place Votes)

Points
1. Appalachian State (5) 60
2. Georgia Southern (3) 59
3. Wofford 49
4. Chattanooga (1) 45
5. Elon 33
6. Furman 30
7. Samford 25
8. The Citadel 13
9. Western Carolina 10

*Note: Coaches were not permitted to vote for their players or their team on the preseason lists.

[chattanoogamocs]

Interesting, you would assume since the coaches can't vote for themselves that either Monken or Moore voted for the Mocs...wonder who is was?

[asumike83]

Looks about right to me, although Georgia Southern and Appalachian are almost interchangeable at the top. I also think Furman may be a little better than Elon.

[Saint3333]

Interesting, you would assume since the coaches can't vote for themselves that either Monken or Moore voted for the Mocs...wonder who is was?

My guess is Monken as UTC beat them last year.

[chattanoogamocs]

Looks about right to me, although Georgia Southern and Appalachian are almost interchangeable at the top. I also think Furman may be a little better than Elon.


And since there is only 1 vote between them, they pretty much are interchangeable.

[ASUG8]

Look for Wofford to be a spoiler this season, along with Chatty.

[DG Cowboy]

GSU and Chattanooga are on the road to Boone as well.

[Apphole]

I think the coaches have put alot of stock in the schedual in light of the dogfight that this years SoCon is going to be. App has 2 of 3 hard games at home. The one we have away is Wofford, so that really only serves as a lack of a home field advantage since GSU and App are the only two schools that have a home crowd that makes a difference. If GSU beats us at home, I feel like they have the best shot in the country at the national championship. I don't see it happening though. That game is going to be the loudest home game in history for us. 34k is my guess. A sea of black that will be deafening on every Eagle possession. With the defense hitting it's stride late in the season, and the usual offensive clinic that we put on, GSU has quite the uphill battle on their hands. A TO team falling behind early is in trouble. I also don't think our team will sleep on Nooga after last year, but it might turn into the 2010 Elon game if we don't let the penalties keep them in the game. Our most likely loss might be Wofford. Our guys tend to fall asleep in that environment.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

The points are usually done so that a first place vote is 8 points, second is 7, third is 6, etc, correct? That sort of makes sense since the total number of points is 324. That means App. State had to have gotten at least one vote below fourth place unless every non-first place vote they got was fourth place. Seems kind of wacky to me. xeyebrowx

And yeah, I do kind of think Monken voted UTC #1. I have no idea why he would, but I think it was him.

[chattownmocs]

Looks like a couple coaches picked app 3rd or less based on the point totals.

[Apphole]

It was probably WCU just being bitter

[biggie]

Probalby some weird points system give that you can't vote for yourself. I've never seen the points system for coaches poll.

[chattanoogamocs]

Here is my guess...

ASU
Five 1st place votes 8x5 = 40
Two 2nd place votes 7x2 = 14
One 3rd place vote 6x1 = 6
Total = 60 points (5)

GSU
Three 1st place votes 8x3 = 24
Five 2nd place votes 7x5 = 35
Total = 59 points (3)

[Smitty]

Kinda sucks everybody has us at the bottom but until we start doing something no reason to put us higher.

[PaladinFan]

I've said it before, but don't sleep on the Paladins.

[chattanoogamocs]

Here is my guess...

ASU
Five 1st place votes 8x5 = 40
Two 2nd place votes 7x2 = 14
One 3rd place vote 6x1 = 6
Total = 60 points (5)

GSU
Three 1st place votes 8x3 = 24
Five 2nd place votes 7x5 = 35
Total = 59 points (3)

Wofford
One 2nd place vote 7x1 = 7
Seven 3rd place votes 6x7 = 42
Total = 49 points

Chattanooga
One 1st place vote 8x1 = 8
One 2nd place vote 7x1 = 7
Six 4th place votes 5x6 = 30
Total = 45 points (1)

That is all the brain power I care to extend on the subject. That uses all eight #1 votes, all eight #2 votes, all eight #3 votes (and six #4 votes). And it is the only formula that comes out with the correct points total for the top four teams.

I am going to take a nap now...my head hurts.

[Apphole]

Here is my guess...

ASU
Five 1st place votes 8x5 = 40
Two 2nd place votes 7x2 = 14
One 3rd place vote 6x1 = 6
Total = 60 points (5)

GSU
Three 1st place votes 8x3 = 24
Five 2nd place votes 7x5 = 35
Total = 59 points (3)

Wofford
One 2nd place vote 7x1 = 7
Seven 3rd place votes 6x7 = 42
Total = 49 points

Chattanooga
One 1st place vote 8x1 = 8
One 2nd place vote 7x1 = 7
Six 4th place votes 5x6 = 30
Total = 45 points (1)

That is all the brain power I care to extend on the subject. That uses all eight #1 votes, all eight #2 votes, all eight #3 votes (and six #4 votes). And it is the only formula that comes out with the correct points total for the top four teams.

I am going to take a nap now...my head hurts.

Please lend chattown some brain power. He sure needs it

[SideLine Shooter]

Personally, I think ASU is entirely too young to have any 1st place votes, but that is just my opinion.

[HighCountry]

Here are the conference teams:

2011 Southern Conference Football

Preseason All-Conference Teams Offensive Player of the Year: Eric Breitenstein, Jr., FB, Wofford Co-Defensive Players of the Year: Ameet Pall, Sr., DL, Wofford & Brent Russell, Jr., DL, Georgia Southern

First Team Offense QB- DeAndre Presley, Sr., Appalachian State RB- Robert Brown, So, Georgia Southern RB- Eric Breitenstein, Jr., Wofford OL- Orry Frye, Sr., Appalachian State OL- Rodney Austin, Sr., Elon OL- Ryan Lee, Sr., Furman OL- Brett Moore, Sr., Georgia Southern OL- Nate Page, Sr., Wofford TE- Ben Jorden, Sr., Appalachian State WR- Aaron Mellette, Jr., Elon WR- Joel Bradford, Sr., Chattanooga

First Team Defense DL- John Rizor, Jr., Appalachian State DL- Brent Russell, Jr., Georgia Southern DL- Alex Davis, Sr., Samford DL- Ameet Pall, Sr., Wofford LB- Kadarron Anderson, Sr., Furman LB- Josh Rowe, Jr., Georgia Southern LB- Ryan Consiglio, Sr., Chattanooga DB- Ed Gainey, Sr., Appalachian State DB- Ryan Steed, Sr., Furman DB- Derek Heyden, Sr., Georgia Southern DB- Laron Scott, Sr., Georgia Southern

First Team Specialists PK- Ray Early, So., Furman P- Charlie Edwards, Sr., Georgia Southern RS- Laron Scott, Sr., Georgia Southern

Second Team Offense QB- B.J. Coleman, Sr., Chattanooga RB- Travaris Cadet, Sr., Appalachian State RB- J.J. Wilcox, Jr., Georgia Southern OL- Matt Ruff, Sr., Appalachian State OL- Dakota Dozier, So., Furman OL- Dorian Byrd, So., Georgia Southern OL- Willie Maxwell, Sr., Georgia Southern OL- Adam Miller, Jr., Chattanooga TE- (tie) Colin Anderson, Jr., Furman TE- (tie) Tyler Sumner, Jr., Georgia Southern WR- Brian Quick, Sr., Appalachian State WR- Brenton Bersin, Sr., Wofford

Second Team Defense DL- Josh Lynn, Jr., Furman DL- Roderick Tinsley, Sr., Georgia Southern DL- Nick Davison, Sr., Chattanooga DL- Eric Eberhardt, Sr., Wofford LB- Brandon Grier, Jr., Appalachian State LB- Tolu Akindele, Sr., The Citadel LB- Joshua Jones, Sr., Elon DB- Corey White, Sr., Samford DB- Chris Lewis-Harris, Sr., Chattanooga DB- Kadeem Wise, So., Chattanooga DB- Blake Wylie, Jr., Wofford

Second Team Specialists PK- Adrian Mora, Sr., Georgia Southern P- Sam Martin, Jr., Appalachian State RS- Travaris Cadet, Sr., Appalachian State


quoted from LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/sports/sns-tsn-agn-preseason-poll-southern-c20110725,0,7051619.story)

Again, I'm surprised that Quick was not named to the first team.

[Apphole]

Again, I'm surprised that Quick was not named to the first team.
It pretty much compromises the credibility of the whole thing. I mean BQ and Cadet are 2-3 round draft picks next year.

[phoenixphanatic21]

It pretty much compromises the credibility of the whole thing. I mean BQ and Cadet are 2-3 round draft picks next year.

It comes down to potential vs. stats IMO. Both Bradford and Mellette had better numbers than Quick, but Quick is supposed to be the better NFL prospect. Personally, I'm waiting to see him take over a game and show the potential I keep hearing about. I'm sure it's in there somewhere.

[Reign of Terrier]

It comes down to potential vs. stats IMO. Both Bradford and Mellette had better numbers than Quick, but Quick is supposed to be the better NFL prospect. Personally, I'm waiting to see him take over a game and show the potential I keep hearing about. I'm sure it's in there somewhere.

sigh.....against Wofford :(

[Skjellyfetti]

Personally, I'm waiting to see him take over a game and show the potential I keep hearing about. I'm sure it's in there somewhere.

You're waiting for Brian Quick to take over a game? Seriously? xlolx xconfusedx

[chattanoogamocs]

It pretty much compromises the credibility of the whole thing. I mean BQ and Cadet are 2-3 round draft picks next year.


It's not like Joel Bradford is chopped liver, I mean he is a returning AP All-American.

2010 • JUNIOR SEASON: Moved back to receiver where he started his career after spending last season as a defensive back ... Associated Press Third Team All-American ... also named 3rd Team All-American by Phil Steel Magazine ... 1st Team All-Southern Conference ... No. 1 on the depth chart at flanker and the primary punt returner ... favorite high school target of QB B.J. Coleman when the pair was at McCallie in Chattanooga ... No. 7 in the nation with 7.4 catches per game ... No. 3 in the nation with 116.7 receiving yds/game ... 8 TD catches ... single-season school record holder with 1,284 receiving yards in 2010 ... third Moc in school history with 1,000 receiving yards in a season ... sixth highest single-season total in SoCon history ... 81 receptions in 2010 is No. 4 on the Mocs single-season list ... five catches for 85 yards and a TD against Appalachian State ... first career catch was a 36-yard TD grab against the Mountaineers ... then school-record 254 yards receiving on 11 catches against EKU ... 80-yard reception vs. EKU was the longest by a Moc since 1999 and the 5th pass play of 80+ yards in UTC's DI era ... SoCon Offensive Player of the Week following the EKU game ... broke his own school record with 274 receiving yards on 15 catches at No. 25 Furman ... named SoCon Offensive Player of the Week and received numerous national honors after the Furman game ... Paladins came into the game with the No. 2 rated pass defense in the nation ... had the top-2 single-game receiving yard totals in the FCS in 2010 ... only player in school history with multiple 200-yard receiving games ... 152 yards on 11 catches and two TDs vs. Elon ... eight catches for 121 yards at Wofford ... named SoCon Student-Athlete of the Week following the Wofford game ... four 100-yard games in 2010 ... Academic All-Southern Conference ... FCS ADA Academic All-Star Team ... made the Dean's List both semesters.



That's why they play the games...pre-season all-conference teams are based primarily on past accolades...that's why they have post-season awards.

[blazrdog#1]

the head clowns in the SoCon ranked us low again!NOTHING but bulletin board material on Lakeshore Drive.We ARE going to upset the apple cart just like every year we've been in the league.So keep up the good work because we're going to send some top contender home with their tail between their legs AGAIN this year!xsmileyclapxxsmileyclapxxnodxxnodx

[chattanoogamocs]

We need to come up with a pre-season AGS SoCon All-Loon fan team (of course, I guess that would need to be on the smack board)

[blazrdog#1]

Well, THANK YOU! chattanoogamocs...I WILL serve as President-Emeritus of that Looney Tune organization!!!

[chattanoogamocs]

Well, THANK YOU! chattanoogamocs...I WILL serve as President-Emeritus of that Looney Tune organization!!!

Maybe we should call it the all-sarcasm team.

Or the all-baiter team (baiting fans to comment on over the top comments) Of course, the the #1 selection on the all-baiter team would be called the master!

:)

[phoenix3]

You're waiting for Brian Quick to take over a game? Seriously? xlolx xconfusedx

Seriously.

[Skjellyfetti]

Seriously.

Y'all must not watch a lot of non-Elon SoCon games or something.

Exhibit A:
Halloween night. Nationally televised game on ESPN2 to decide the SoCon champion. Maybe you tuned in for this? I guess not though. xrolleyesx

4 catches. 172 yards. 3 touchdowns. 43 yard average per catch. Just about a touchdown everytime he touched the ball. xlolx


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sMfdcCrnTU


Edit to add: Brian Quick will have a longer NFL career than Terrell Hudgins's. I'll make an avatar bet with any of you Elon fans on it.

[phoenixphanatic21]

Y'all must not watch a lot of non-Elon SoCon games or something.

Exhibit A:
Halloween night. Nationally televised game on ESPN2 to decide the SoCon champion. Maybe you tuned in for this? I guess not though. xrolleyesx

4 catches. 172 yards. 3 touchdowns. 43 yard average per catch. Just about a touchdown everytime he touched the ball. xlolx


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sMfdcCrnTU


Edit to add: Brian Quick will have a longer NFL career than Terrell Hudgins's. I'll make an avatar bet with any of you Elon fans on it.

I'd just like to see him do that on a more consistent basis, that's all. I'm not saying he's not talented. I'm just saying he needs to show that more often. I've also seen scouts say the same thing. For every Wofford game, it seems he has 3 or 4 games where he has 3 catches for 40-some yards.

I thought the comment saying that the rankings lose all credibility because he was second team was laughable. So the coaches in the league clearly have no idea what they are talking about. xrolleyesx

[Skjellyfetti]

Nice backpedaling.

On page 3 you were still waiting for him to take over a game.

On page 4 you want to see him do it consistently.

xlolxxrotatehx





And, this offer will stay on the table should you continue to be unsure of Quick's abilities. So... either put up or shut up, please.


Brian Quick will have a longer NFL career than Terrell Hudgins's. I'll make an avatar bet with any of you Elon fans on it.

[phoenixphanatic21]

Nice backpedaling. Maybe you could cover Quick better than Woffor'd secondary.

First you wanted to see him take over a game.

Now you want to see him do it consistently.



Forgive me. I forgot a game that happened three years ago on Halloween night. My mistake. I kinda stopped paying attention when it got out of hand, which was pretty early should my memory serve me right.

[Skjellyfetti]

Forgive me. I forgot a game that happened three years ago on Halloween night.

EXHIBIT B:
8 catches. 181 yards. 2 TD's.
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=292902747

Just admit that you don't watch much non-Elon SoCon football, please.

[chattanoogamocs]

RECEIVING GP No. Yards Avg TD Long Avg/G
Brian Quick 13 47 844 18.0 9 65 64.9

RECEIVING GP No. Yards Avg TD Long Avg/G
Joel Bradford 11 81 1284 15.9 8 80 116.7


Brian Quick is a beast and I have no doubt that he will make it to the next level. Bradford is probably way too short to have a realistic chance at the NFL.

But, pre-season awards are based heavily on stats and Joel is the returning 1st team All-SoCon WR

(and post-season AP AA, not to mention a pre-season Phil Steele 1st team AA).

[Skjellyfetti]

not arguing with you. congrats to joel bradford.



just arguing with these elon fans that are sitting around waiting for brian quick to "take over a game."

[phoenixphanatic21]

EXHIBIT B:
8 catches. 181 yards. 2 TD's.
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=292902747

Just admit that you don't watch much non-Elon SoCon football, please.


I'll admit I don't watch as much as I wish I could.

[Apphole]

I'll admit I don't watch as much as I wish I could.

Well lucky you. For the next 3 years, you can catch it after Sesame St!

[chattanoogamocs]

My work here (in defense of Joel and Mocs) is done. :)

...heads up, Brian Quick got the best of the Mocs in the 4th quarter last season. He had a couple of big catches in crucial situations that arguably won ASU the game. Plenty of respect for Brian on the Mocs side of the ball.

[phoenixphanatic21]

Well lucky you. For the next 3 years, you can catch it after Sesame St!

And I, for one, cannot wait. I hear Kermit the Frog is a great play-by-play guy.

[Apphole]

And I, for one, cannot wait. I hear Kermit the Frog is a great play-by-play guy.

I can't wait to stop on PBS and smile on my way to Fox Sports to watch App play our first televised conference CUSA game. It's gonna be a long 3 years for you guys. The sexual tension between Kermit and Miss Piggy will really distract the audience from the games.

[eaglewraith]

I think the coaches have put alot of stock in the schedual in light of the dogfight that this years SoCon is going to be. App has 2 of 3 hard games at home. The one we have away is Wofford, so that really only serves as a lack of a home field advantage since GSU and App are the only two schools that have a home crowd that makes a difference. If GSU beats us at home, I feel like they have the best shot in the country at the national championship. I don't see it happening though. Just like no one saw it happening the year you beat Michigan when we rolled in on a very loud and hostile Black Saturday, with your crowd busting out the seams to witness the home winning streak continue...oh wait. That game is going to be the loudest home game in history for us. 34k is my guess. A sea of black that will be deafening on every Eagle possession. With the defense hitting it's stride late in the season Beware ManBearPig, and the usual offensive clinic that we put on oh yea massive offensive explosion in Paulson last year. Only one drive the length of the field, the other score was a gift turnover at the ~20 yard line....nothing the rest of the game, GSU has quite the uphill battle on their hands. A TO team falling behind early is in trouble Just like last year right? . I also don't think our team will sleep on Nooga after last year, but it might turn into the 2010 Elon game if we don't let the penalties keep them in the game. Our most likely loss might be Wofford. Our guys tend to fall asleep in that environment.

Injected some facts.

[citdog]

I can't wait to stop on PBS and smile on my way to Fox Sports to watch App play our first televised conference CUSA game. It's gonna be a long 3 years for you guys. The sexual tension between Kermit and Miss Piggy will really distract the audience from the games.

That will be a happy day indeed. Conference USA will finally have the hillbillie idiots they need and WE will be rid of you. I'll be looking for your flag this year......as there is a bare space on my wall I need to fill.

[Apphole]

That will be a happy day indeed. Conference USA will finally have the hillbillie idiots they need and WE will be rid of you. I'll be looking for your flag this year......as there is a bare space on my wall I need to fill.

There are many flag holders among App sections. I'm sure you need a sweet flag though with all that ****** baby blue you have up.

[Apphole]

Injected some facts.

There will be a few thousand more people there this year. Not to mention you've replaced us as the over-hyped, upset ready, band wagon of the conference.

[citdog]

There are many flag holders among App sections. I'm sure you need a sweet flag though with all that ****** baby blue you have up.

It's The Citadel Blue and we know Yahweh is a BIG fan of the school because he painted THE WHOLE SKY OUR COLOR.

[HighCountry]

It's The Citadel Blue and we know Yahweh is a BIG fan of the school because he painted THE WHOLE SKY OUR COLOR.
have you been sleeping with a tarhole?:D

[eaglewraith]

There will be a few thousand more people there this year. Not to mention you've replaced us as the over-hyped, upset ready, band wagon of the conference.

Hmmm....Number 1 goes down, Number 1 goes down....

What's that about upset ready?

[whoanellie]

what all 22 App starters are not first team?
It pretty much compromises the credibility of the whole thing. I mean BQ and Cadet are 2-3 round draft picks next year.

[Apphole]

Hmmm....Number 1 goes down, Number 1 goes down....

What's that about upset ready?

Yea, last year. This year, you are the ones ripe for upset. I thought I made that clear.

[eaglewraith]

Yea, last year. This year, you are the ones ripe for upset. I thought I made that clear.

You're still picked first in the conference. I think you're still set for the upset....which I definitely see us delivering.

[Apphole]

what all 22 App starters are not first team?

I mentioned 2 players I thought were underrated. I love how you try to exaggerate to make yourself feel better about hating all things App. We're not as pretentious as you would like to paint us.

[phoenix3]

Y'all must not watch a lot of non-Elon SoCon games or something.

Exhibit A:
Halloween night. Nationally televised game on ESPN2 to decide the SoCon champion. Maybe you tuned in for this? I guess not though. xrolleyesx

4 catches. 172 yards. 3 touchdowns. 43 yard average per catch. Just about a touchdown everytime he touched the ball. xlolx


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sMfdcCrnTU


Edit to add: Brian Quick will have a longer NFL career than Terrell Hudgins's. I'll make an avatar bet with any of you Elon fans on it.

What year was that? 2008? I'm sorry he did take over ONE game three years ago. Do you think he can do it twice in his carreer? Not that I'd like to see him do it against Elon, but I would like to see him do something to get him a shot in the NFL.

Sadly, I'm afraid you're right in the last statement. I bet he'll have a longer NFL carreer than Armanti Edwards too. He certainly deserves to be drafted as a WR unlike Edwards.

[Apphole]

You're still picked first in the conference. I think you're still set for the upset....which I definitely see us delivering.

This is the first poll of several that App was ranked above GSU and it was by one coaches point. You will be ranked higher at the start of the season. That being said, no matter the winner, it will not be an "upset." You beating us after we beat Michigan and won 2 national championships in an off year was an upset.

[Skjellyfetti]

What year was that? 2008? I'm sorry he did take over ONE game three years ago. Do you think he can do it twice in his carreer?

Try to keep up.


EXHIBIT B:
8 catches. 181 yards. 2 TD's.
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=292902747

Just admit that you don't watch much non-Elon SoCon football, please.

[phoenix3]

Exhibit C?

[Skjellyfetti]

xlolx

You were claiming 2 pages ago that you were still waiting for Brian Quick to "take over a game."

You obviously either watch very little football or you are just trolling yet another thread.

**** off.

[phoenix3]

OK you're right. You have a GREAT receiver that has taken over two games in his carreer. xsalutex. Nice sign off by the way. Witty.

[Apphole]

OK you're right. You have a GREAT receiver that has taken over two games in his carreer. xsalutex. Nice sign off by the way. Witty.

He demands the full attention of a corner and safety every game. Those are two games where they didn't respect him enough to do so. He still posts good numbers despite being double covered every game.

[PaladinFan]

That will be a happy day indeed. Conference USA will finally have the hillbillie idiots they need and WE will be rid of you. I'll be looking for your flag this year......as there is a bare space on my wall I need to fill.

But Marsha has the cusa hillbily market cornered, I thought

[phoenix3]

He demands the full attention of a corner and safety every game. Those are two games where they didn't respect him enough to do so. He still posts good numbers despite being double covered every game.

No doubt about that. I'm not sure what his speed and agility are compared to NFL corners, but his height, jumping ability and hands should be enough to get him a chance. Last year's draft seemed to be all about speed. This year with the top two WR selections they seemed to back off speed a little in favor of hands and height. Who knows what they'll want next year.

[Saint3333]

Where's Hudgins these days?

[Apphole]

Where's Hudgins these days?

I stopped in Burlington on my way to Raleigh and he was working at an Arby's

[asumike83]

Where's Hudgins these days?

I believe he is in the AFL. He was on the Cowboys during pre-season but I don't think he made the final roster. Any Elon fans confirm this?

[phoenixphanatic21]

I believe he is in the AFL. He was on the Cowboys during pre-season but I don't think he made the final roster. Any Elon fans confirm this?

He was with the Chicago Rush last I heard.

[PaladinFan]

No doubt about that. I'm not sure what his speed and agility are compared to NFL corners, but his height, jumping ability and hands should be enough to get him a chance. Last year's draft seemed to be all about speed. This year with the top two WR selections they seemed to back off speed a little in favor of hands and height. Who knows what they'll want next year.

I just went back and looked at the Furman/App box score from last season. Quick would have undoubtedly have been matched up all game with Ryan Steed, the closest thing the SoCon has to an NFL cornerback. Quick had four catches for 46 yards.

Not to get into another Elon/App pissing match, but Quick, unlike Hudgins, has the luxury of another top reciever to take some of the pressure. Elon had other good recievers, but nothing like Coco Hillary, and none that would have been any good had Hudgins not been on the roster.

[asumike83]

Not to get into another Elon/App pissing match, but Quick, unlike Hudgins, has the luxury of another top reciever to take some of the pressure. Elon had other good recievers, but nothing like Coco Hillary, and none that would have been any good had Hudgins not been on the roster.

True, but Hudgins had a huge advantage of playing in a pass-happy offense. When you have a QB that throws it 40+ times every game, you're going to accumulate some monster statistics. ASU's primary focus has always been the ground game, which is something Elon never consistently had. Last year for example, Elon averaged 41 pass attempts per game to ASU's 27. If you add an extra 150 pass attempts into the offense over the course of a season, Brian Quick would look a lot more impressive on the stat sheet.

Before I get jumped on by an Elon fans, I think Hudgins was a great receiver. Quick has better size and leaping ability and will probably have a brighter future as a professional, but I enjoyed watching him play.

[biggie]

Don't believe the other recievers around Quick took pressure off, it just opened it up more for them, thus his numbers are somewhat lower. He was double teamed almost every single play and certainly will be this year with young WRs on the field. Still he is a work in progress, though has improved greatly. This is his 6th year of playing organized football (including the '07 medical RS year).

Oh and the AE comment can be checked this season with him being projected currently as starting WR (especially if they trade Steve Smith), also rule change allows 3rd QB to be on the active roster, so possibly Newton/Claussen then AE as the 3rd QB along with WR duties. As long as he gets an chance to get on the field this season will be good, no more used in political battle by Fox vs front office.

[Skjellyfetti]

I just went back and looked at the Furman/App box score from last season. Quick would have undoubtedly have been matched up all game with Ryan Steed, the closest thing the SoCon has to an NFL cornerback. Quick had four catches for 46 yards.

Not to get into another Elon/App pissing match, but Quick, unlike Hudgins, has the luxury of another top reciever to take some of the pressure. Elon had other good recievers, but nothing like Coco Hillary, and none that would have been any good had Hudgins not been on the roster.

We barely threw the ball in 2010 against y'all. Some games we air it out. Some games we win on the ground. That was a game we chose to win on the ground. 58 rushes vs. 13 completions.

[Apphole]

Some people just don't understand well rounded, duel threat offenses.

[mocman1990]

SoCon Media Poll

2011 SoCon Football Preseason Media Poll

School (First-place votes) Points
1. Georgia Southern (15) 254
2. Appalachian State (13) 249
3. Wofford (2) 215
4. Chattanooga 180
5. Furman 143
6. Elon 116
7. Samford 92
8. Western Carolina 56
9. The Citadel 45

Couple of small changes in the bottom half of the poll.

[eaglewraith]

I just went back and looked at the Furman/App box score from last season. Quick would have undoubtedly have been matched up all game with Ryan Steed, the closest thing the SoCon has to an NFL cornerback. Quick had four catches for 46 yards.

Not to get into another Elon/App pissing match, but Quick, unlike Hudgins, has the luxury of another top reciever to take some of the pressure. Elon had other good recievers, but nothing like Coco Hillary, and none that would have been any good had Hudgins not been on the roster.

App/GSU from 2010

Quick 4 for 72
Frazier 6 for 62
Hillary 2 for 34
Elder 1 for 20
Cadet 1 for 16

We may or may not have "NFL caliber" corners....but I think we handled all their WR's very well. I think the DL had more to do with this though as the passing game was constantly harassed up front. Easy for the secondary to take care of receivers when you're rushing the QB into a bad decision.

[GaSouthern]

Looks dead on to me, i'd def give App St. the edge over GSU because they play them at home.

[chattownmocs]

Dude caught 47 passes in 13 games and you are crying about him not being first team?

[phoenix3]

App/Elon - 2010

Elon RECEIVING No. Yds TD Lg
Aaron Mellette 9 127 3 47
Sean Jeffcoat 8 102 1 17
Lance Camp 4 63 0 38
A.J. Harris 4 45 0 20
Kierre Brown 2 23 0 12
Jeremy Peterson 2 20 0 18
Brandon Newsome 1 16 0 16
Matt Eastman 1 -2 0 0
Totals... 31 394 4 47

ASU RECEIVING No. Yds TD Lg
Matt Cline 5 30 0 11
Brian Quick 4 65 0 32
CoCo Hillary 3 76 1 39
Blake Elder 1 29 0 29
Travaris Cadet 1 4 0 4
Totals... 14 204 1 39

Pressley was the big news in this game for App. 186 yards rushing 4 TD's

[biggie]

Yes, the App offense takes what the opposing defense gives them, in that case it was the run, specificaly by the QB. A lot of Socon teams are about 80-85% (some more) one dimensional.

[chattownmocs]

Yes, the App offense takes what the opposing defense gives them, in that case it was the run, specificaly by the QB. A lot of Socon teams are about 80-85% (some more) one dimensional.

Well I guess that's why your reciever isnt on the first team. If his opportunities are that limited he doesnt belong there.

[biggie]

Well I guess that's why your reciever isnt on the first team. If his opportunities are that limited he doesnt belong there.
Yes, given that this list is based on stats, Quick had less chances last season given good WRs around him, balanced attack, and being double teamed about every play. Most are upset because they know he's probably the best WR in the league and highest NFL prospect in the SoCon.

[Milktruck74]

App/GSU from 2010

Quick 4 for 72
Frazier 6 for 62
Hillary 2 for 34
Elder 1 for 20
Cadet 1 for 16

We may or may not have "NFL caliber" corners....but I think we handled all their WR's very well. I think the DL had more to do with this though as the passing game was constantly harassed up front. Easy for the secondary to take care of receivers when you're rushing the QB into a bad decision.

They averaged 14.5 yards a completion and almost 8 yards an attempt....I wouldn't exactly call that "Handled". However, the only stat that really matters is if you chalk it up in the left or right column....and your DBs did what was necessary to ensure the W.

[Skjellyfetti]

Well I guess that's why your reciever isnt on the first team. If his opportunities are that limited he doesnt belong there.

That's why I haven't argued against him being 2nd team instead of first team. Bradford and Mallette's stats are much better... and that's usually where these decisions are made.

Brian Quick is regarded by NFL scouts as the best receiver in the SoCon... and will probably be the only one drafted. What they're looking at is too subjective though... so preseason and post season awards are based largely on stats.



Having said that... using the same criteria-- seems to me you have to put the returning 2010 Offensive Player of the Year as the 2011 Preseason Offensive Player of the Year. If anyone on App got snubbed... it was DeAndre Presley. And his stats certainly back it up.

[boonedocks]

I don't see what all the hullabaloo is about. I'm not suprised/upset Quick isn't on the first team. If you look at the stats the other guys deserve it.

This isn't who is the best pro prospect poll. If it was reversed and the guys on first team played for ASU, and Quick didn't...then Quick made the first team, most App fans would be up in arms and rightfully so.

This is pre-season, mostly based on last years numbers. We'll see what happens at the end of the year. 2nd team is probably about right. I just don't see this as some egregious affront to Quick or ASU.

maybe i'm wrong.

I agree, Presley got shafted. I don't know why he isn't preseason offensive player of the year.

[Skjellyfetti]

App/Elon - 2010

Elon RECEIVING No. Yds TD Lg
Aaron Mellette 9 127 3 47
Sean Jeffcoat 8 102 1 17
Lance Camp 4 63 0 38
A.J. Harris 4 45 0 20
Kierre Brown 2 23 0 12
Jeremy Peterson 2 20 0 18
Brandon Newsome 1 16 0 16
Matt Eastman 1 -2 0 0
Totals... 31 394 4 47

ASU RECEIVING No. Yds TD Lg
Matt Cline 5 30 0 11
Brian Quick 4 65 0 32
CoCo Hillary 3 76 1 39
Blake Elder 1 29 0 29
Travaris Cadet 1 4 0 4
Totals... 14 204 1 39

Pressley was the big news in this game for App. 186 yards rushing 4 TD's

Again. This is an apples-to-oranges comparison because it's two different offenses.

Elon: 43 passes. 27 rushes.
Appalachian State: 44 rushes. 19 passes.

I'm fine with Mellette being first team over Quick. As I said, these awards are decided by statistics, and Mellette is clearly statistically better.

But, stats don't paint the whole picture (as your signature hints at).

[eaglewraith]

They averaged 14.5 yards a completion and almost 8 yards an attempt....I wouldn't exactly call that "Handled". However, the only stat that really matters is if you chalk it up in the left or right column....and your DBs did what was necessary to ensure the W.

No WR scored a TD. They don't give points for yards. I don't care if you have 800 yards....if you only score 2 TD's and we score 3 we're going to win. Our DB's also got 2 INT's in the endzone. One was a forced bad pass and LaRon Scott grabbed it. The other was Michael Butler recognizing the play and grabbing it on the goal line. They more than did their jobs. (Both of these guys are back btw)

For all those yards, one scoring drive started around the GSU 20 after a turnover so it was short. The other TD came on a 80ish yard drive. That was end of the first/beginning of the second. We shut them down pretty much the rest of the game. Yes they got some yards, but they did NOT cross the goal line and that's the only thing that matters.

[Skjellyfetti]

Brent Pry and his gameplan won that game for y'all. As you mentioned in your first post... DeAndre was under duress all game and did not respond well to it (nor did our coaches).

Y'all blitzed about 80% of the game... which was well above what y'all had showed up to that point in the season. It took DeAndre and our offensive coaches by surprise.

I'm not trying to make excuses or anything... y'all beat us and deserved to win. Just saying I'd probably give the game ball to Brent Pry, the d-line, and the blitzing linebackers.

[eaglewraith]

Brent Pry and his gameplan won that game for y'all. As you mentioned in your first post... DeAndre was under duress all game and did not respond well to it (nor did our coaches).

Y'all blitzed about 80% of the game... which was well above what y'all had showed up to that point in the season. It took DeAndre and our offensive coaches by surprise.

I'm not trying to make excuses or anything... y'all beat us and deserved to win. Just saying I'd probably give the game ball to Brent Pry, the d-line, and the blitzing linebackers.

The scheme with the new DC is basically the same, I'm just interested to see if he brings the same intensity and aggressiveness that Pry had. The DL really made the difference, they made the job easy for the rest of the defense.

Good news: DL should be even better which should scare everyone. Brent Russell has been kicking *** in the weight room and pushing everyone to go further than they think they can. Also, the linebackers should be just as good or better. We should be hitting even harder this year, teams are going to come out banged up.

Outside of Alabama, my only worries are App and Wofford. Black Saturday honestly does not scare me. We've walked into that environment with a younger and less experienced team and beat App, so it can be done. We've put a crack in the Rock, now it's time to bust that ***** open. If we take over Wofford's stadium again, it's over for them.

One thing is for certain, we honestly should be undefeated going into the App game. App should be as well. That should be an ESPN game cause it's going to be a barnburner.

[citdog]

One thing is for certain, we honestly should be undefeated going into the App game. App should be as well. That should be an ESPN game cause it's going to be a barnburner.

THE ABOVE IS THE PROBLEM WITH BOTH OF YOU. YOU HAVE A GREAT DEAL IN COMMON WITH THE unc-c FANS. IF I WAS A pig's ***, ga eaglet.........I'D BE WORRIED ABOUT BEATING SAMFORD.

[phoenix3]

Again. This is an apples-to-oranges comparison because it's two different offenses.

Elon: 43 passes. 27 rushes.
Appalachian State: 44 rushes. 19 passes.

I'm fine with Mellette being first team over Quick. As I said, these awards are decided by statistics, and Mellette is clearly statistically better.

But, stats don't paint the whole picture (as your signature hints at).

Which is why I gave Pressley his due...

Truthfully, whether you love or hate Elon or App you have to admit, that was a great game. Total yards App 589 - Elon 586 score 34-31 App.

[SU DOG]

THE ABOVE IS THE PROBLEM WITH BOTH OF YOU. YOU HAVE A GREAT DEAL IN COMMON WITH THE unc-c FANS. IF I WAS A pig's ***, ga eaglet.........I'D BE WORRIED ABOUT BEATING SAMFORD.

LOL!! That statement may be more true than most folks realize. I certainly respect what GSU brings to the table this year, but I'm telling you that Samford WILL be a far better team than predicted.

[eaglewraith]

THE ABOVE IS THE PROBLEM WITH BOTH OF YOU. YOU HAVE A GREAT DEAL IN COMMON WITH THE unc-c FANS. IF I WAS A pig's ***, ga eaglet.........I'D BE WORRIED ABOUT BEATING SAMFORD.

I said should be, not will be.

I honestly think we should be undefeated, that doesn't mean it will happen. If it doesn't however that will be an extreme disappointment.

[eaglewraith]

LOL!! That statement may be more true than most folks realize. I certainly respect what GSU brings to the table this year, but I'm telling you that Samford WILL be a far better team than predicted.

Oh that's right you have a Gus Malzahn disciple to run your offense....but you don't have $180,000 to pay for Cam Newton to QB it.

You have only won once when facing the Georgia Southern Option. The teams you beat in 08 and 09 were a shell of what came before. This year you will see what we are all about and I hope your team remembers it forever as they limp off the field.

[Apphole]

Lil Sammy is as irrelevant this year as they have been every year before

[PaladinFan]

The scheme with the new DC is basically the same, I'm just interested to see if he brings the same intensity and aggressiveness that Pry had. The DL really made the difference, they made the job easy for the rest of the defense.

Good news: DL should be even better which should scare everyone. Brent Russell has been kicking *** in the weight room and pushing everyone to go further than they think they can. Also, the linebackers should be just as good or better. We should be hitting even harder this year, teams are going to come out banged up.

Outside of Alabama, my only worries are App and Wofford. Black Saturday honestly does not scare me. We've walked into that environment with a younger and less experienced team and beat App, so it can be done. We've put a crack in the Rock, now it's time to bust that ***** open. If we take over Wofford's stadium again, it's over for them.

One thing is for certain, we honestly should be undefeated going into the App game. App should be as well. That should be an ESPN game cause it's going to be a barnburner.

You might be undefeated, but GSU is not head and shoulders better than the rest of the SoCon. They are good, but if they make it to App without a loss it will be surpising, not expected.

[Apphole]

The scheme with the new DC is basically the same, I'm just interested to see if he brings the same intensity and aggressiveness that Pry had. The DL really made the difference, they made the job easy for the rest of the defense.

Good news: DL should be even better which should scare everyone. Brent Russell has been kicking *** in the weight room and pushing everyone to go further than they think they can. Also, the linebackers should be just as good or better. We should be hitting even harder this year, teams are going to come out banged up.

Outside of Alabama, my only worries are App and Wofford. Black Saturday honestly does not scare me. We've walked into that environment with a younger and less experienced team and beat App, so it can be done. We've put a crack in the Rock, now it's time to bust that ***** open. If we take over Wofford's stadium again, it's over for them.

One thing is for certain, we honestly should be undefeated going into the App game. App should be as well. That should be an ESPN game cause it's going to be a barnburner.

I think you're a little too confident. If I were a GSU fan, it would take a little more than a fluke playoff run to assume I was gonna leave the Rock with a W. Sure you have 21 returning starters blah, blah, blah. Those are 21 guys that started 4-4 last year. You have a new guy calling your plays on defense, which is 80% of why your team is good. We haven't had and won't have a problem with your offense. This will be the most hostile environment your team has ever been in. Sure Alabama is SEC with over twice the capacity ect, but you know those Al fans aren't taking you seriously. I also know that they've been to the Rock before, but this is a different animal. The fans know you're the team to beat. There will be 2-3k more than usual. Your team will hear the roar of the crowd while they're still suiting up, hours before the game. The App State chant will put Paulson into perspective as we take the field. Every single Eagles play will be deafening. It wil be hard to hear the complicated TO call at the line. The new defense will be sharpened this late in the season. The surprise blitzes you caught us off guard with last year will be expected and planned for. Any early lead the Apps get will put more pressure on the slow working TO. You should reevaluate your complacence.

[GaSouthern]

I think you're a little too confident. If I were a GSU fan, it would take a little more than a fluke playoff run to assume I was gonna leave the Rock with a W. Sure you have 21 returning starters blah, blah, blah. Those are 21 guys that started 4-4 last year. You have a new guy calling your plays on defense, which is 80% of why your team is good. We haven't had and won't have a problem with your offense. This will be the most hostil environment your team has ever been in. Sure Alabama is SEC with over twice the capacity ect, but you know those Al fans aren't taking you seriously. I also know that they've been to the Rock before, but this is a different animal. The fans know you're the team to beat. There will be 2-3k more than usual. Your team will hear the roar ofthe crowd while they're still suiting up, hours before the game. The App State chant will put Paulson into perspective as we take the field. Every single Eagles play will be deafening. It wil be hard to hear the complicated TO call at the line. The new defense will be sharpened this late in the season. The surprise blitzes you caught us off guard with last year will be expected and planned for. Any early lead the Apps will put more pressure on the slow working TO. You should reevaluate your complacence.
I agree he is too confident but last years playoff run was not a fluke, other than Wofford and Del we won the other playoff games pretty easily. I also will be amazed if we are undefeated going into Boone and if we get out alive i'll be equally surprised and happy. Lastly App had an early lead last year and managed to lose so I don't agree with that stance either.

[Eaglesrus]

].......Outside of Alabama, my only worries are App and Wofford. Black Saturday honestly does not scare me. [/B]We've walked into that environment with a younger and less experienced team and beat App, so it can be done. We've put a crack in the Rock, now it's time to bust that ***** open. If we take over Wofford's stadium again, it's over for them.......


I think you're a little too confident. If I were a GSU fan, it would take a little more than a fluke playoff run to assume I was gonna leave the Rock with a W. Sure you have 21 returning starters blah, blah, blah. Those are 21 guys that started 4-4 last year. You have a new guy calling your plays on defense, which is 80% of why your team is good. We haven't had and won't have a problem with your offense. This will be the most hostile environment your team has ever been in. Sure Alabama is SEC with over twice the capacity ect, but you know those Al fans aren't taking you seriously. I also know that they've been to the Rock before, but this is a different animal. The fans know you're the team to beat. There will be 2-3k more than usual. Your team will hear the roar of the crowd while they're still suiting up, hours before the game. The App State chant will put Paulson into perspective as we take the field. Every single Eagles play will be deafening. It wil be hard to hear the complicated TO call at the line. The new defense will be sharpened this late in the season. The surprise blitzes you caught us off guard with last year will be expected and planned for. Any early lead the Apps get will put more pressure on the slow working TO. You should reevaluate your complacence.

Unlike you, Eaglewraith acknowledged concern about ASU, so it seems that if anyone is overconfident it's you Apphole. I don't know a single GSU fan who is confident that we are going to go undefeated in the conference this year, but I also don't know any who think we don't have a chance in every game. Apparently you think that we should just go ahead and concede the game, but that's not going to happen. In any case, we all know that what we think doesn't matter a bit and we'll just have to wait and see what happens on October 29.

[ASUG8]

It really doesn't matter what either team's record is going into this game, it's usually a competitive game (aside from 2009). GSU is stacked, ASU somewhat depleted due to graduations, but we'll certainly know what these two teams are capable of by the time this game rolls around.

[blueballs]

It really doesn't matter what either team's record is going into this game, it's usually a competitive game (aside from 2009 and 2004). GSU is stacked, ASU somewhat depleted due to graduations, but we'll certainly know what these two teams are capable of by the time this game rolls around.

FIFY but otherwise I completely agree with this.

GSU should be a WAY better team this year than last simply because of being a year older, more experienced, and all those freshmen now have a whole season, spring practice, another camp, and a full year of S&C. Whether that translates into the success they enjoyed late in the season last year is anybody's guess. HOWEVER, that first game ain't a gimme' by any stretch. Samford pushed GSU all over the field the last two years so GSU had better bring it or they'll tote a whuppin' out of Birmingham and really be behind the eight ball from jump street.

As for the App trip, I can't wait. It should be a great game and a great atmosphere showing the best the SoCon and FCS has to offer.

GSU has had some REALLY good teams lose in Boone, notably the 1987 and especially the 1999 group- which was GSU's only loss in the division that year- so there is absolutely no way they should be favored and if they are fortunate enough to win it portends well for their playoff hopes.

[seantaylor]

Big thing about the Samford game last year was Robert Brown didn't play, and Jaybo sat out the week before against the Citadel, and wasn't inserted into the game until the late 3rd quarter.

[chattownmocs]

BJ coleman to Joel Bradford picked 4th?

Weidmer of the Chattanooga times free press asks how this could happen

http://timesfreepress.com/news/2011/jul/27/wiedmer-can-mocs-finish-above-predicted-fourth-soc/

[The Eagle's Cliff]

BJ coleman to Joel Bradford picked 4th?

Weidmer of the Chattanooga times free press asks how this could happen

He answered his own question:
But it may need to be just to finish above .500 for a third straight season, something the Mocs haven’t accomplished since posting 10 straight winning records from 1976 to 1985.

That's a 25 year streak they're trying to break. Kinda hard for BJ to hit Bradford when he's on his back. UTC will be 1-3 by 7pm Sept 24 and 2-5 by 7pm Oct 8, then you can cheer for the Vols til they're 3-5 at the end of October.

[StorminASU]

FIFY but otherwise I completely agree with this.

Those (2004 and 2009) were both ugly games for alternating teams. One thing I can definitely guarantee is that the talent on both rosters this year will mean A LOT closer game than either of those were.

[chattownmocs]

He answered his own question:

That's a 25 year streak they're trying to break. Kinda hard for BJ to hit Bradford when he's on his back. UTC will be 1-3 by 7pm Sept 24 and 2-5 by 7pm Oct 8, then you can cheer for the Vols til they're 3-5 at the end of October.

Hhaha cool story, we will roll you......AGAIN.

[blueballs]

Those (2004 and 2009) were both ugly games for alternating teams. One thing I can definitely guarantee is that the talent on both rosters this year will mean A LOT closer game than either of those were.

...and with the regionalization of the draw it might happen twice.

[eaglemachine]

Hhaha cool story, we will roll you......AGAIN.

not in Paulson you won't

[GaSouthern]

Those (2004 and 2009) were both ugly games for alternating teams. One thing I can definitely guarantee is that the talent on both rosters this year will mean A LOT closer game than either of those were.

The appy team in 04 had a TON of talent, they were just learning a new offense.

[The Eagle's Cliff]

Hhaha cool story, we will roll you......AGAIN.

"Again"? Really? As If winning against Georgia Southern is something the Mocs have lots of experience with.

UTC vs GSU all time: 4-20, .16667 Win %, outscored 877-390

All 4 wins came against 1st year coaches and were won by 2, 1, 7, 8 points and 2 of the four occurred in our two losing seasons 4-7 in '96 and 3-8 in '06.

You may now continue with your delusional outlook for UTC Football.

[citdog]

not in Paulson you won't


we did.......on your HOMECOMING too!


remember this guy? he went through you like Lee went through Pope!


http://prod.static.cardinals.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/ARI/photos/person/PlayerCards2010/BroughtonNehemiah.jpg

[chattownmocs]

"Again"? Really? As If winning against Georgia Southern is something the Mocs have lots of experience with.

UTC vs GSU all time: 4-20, .16667 Win %, outscored 877-390

All 4 wins came against 1st year coaches and were won by 2, 1, 7, 8 points and 2 of the four occurred in our two losing seasons 4-7 in '96 and 3-8 in '06.

You may now continue with your delusional outlook for UTC Football.

3 of 5. 35-27. Relevance. Learn the definition.

[Apphole]

We won 3 straight national championships, beat a #5 ranked BCS powerhouse and STILL didn't have any fans like chattowntroll. Chatty will not be in the playoffs this year. BJ is a choke artist.

[smallcollegefbfan]

It comes down to potential vs. stats IMO. Both Bradford and Mellette had better numbers than Quick, but Quick is supposed to be the better NFL prospect. Personally, I'm waiting to see him take over a game and show the potential I keep hearing about. I'm sure it's in there somewhere.

Watch ASU vs. Citadel last year. He showed what you are talking about against 4th round pick Cortez Allen when he torched him for two touchdowns. He has had some big games against Wofford in his career as well. For some reason ASU doesn't throw him the ball enough and instead spreads it around. It will be interesting if they ever do a highlight of him because he has about 7 or 8 catches in his career that would even blow away most Terrell Hudgins fans. While Quick hasn't done in week in and week out and he hasn't had a big 200-yard game or anything he has shown a couple times in his career that he can take over a game. Hopefully, they will throw him the ball 8-12 times a game this year like his talent suggests he can.

[chattownmocs]

We won 3 straight national championships, beat a #5 ranked BCS powerhouse and STILL didn't have any fans like chattowntroll. Chatty will not be in the playoffs this year. BJ is a choke artist.

Another unfounded statement.

[PaladinFan]

Watch ASU vs. Citadel last year. He showed what you are talking about against 4th round pick Cortez Allen when he torched him for two touchdowns. He has had some big games against Wofford in his career as well. For some reason ASU doesn't throw him the ball enough and instead spreads it around. It will be interesting if they ever do a highlight of him because he has about 7 or 8 catches in his career that would even blow away most Terrell Hudgins fans. While Quick hasn't done in week in and week out and he hasn't had a big 200-yard game or anything he has shown a couple times in his career that he can take over a game. Hopefully, they will throw him the ball 8-12 times a game this year like his talent suggests he can.

I honestly don't have a horse in this race, but the comparison of Quick to Hudgins really is a non-starter at this stage. I have watched a lot of SoCon football, and Hudgins gets put up there with some of the great players I've seen. A guy that simply took over football games. Quick is a nice player--tall, rangy, deadly in the redzone--but he's not Hudgins.

[Saint3333]

Watch ASU vs. Citadel last year. He showed what you are talking about against 4th round pick Cortez Allen when he torched him for two touchdowns. He has had some big games against Wofford in his career as well. For some reason ASU doesn't throw him the ball enough and instead spreads it around. It will be interesting if they ever do a highlight of him because he has about 7 or 8 catches in his career that would even blow away most Terrell Hudgins fans. While Quick hasn't done in week in and week out and he hasn't had a big 200-yard game or anything he has shown a couple times in his career that he can take over a game. Hopefully, they will throw him the ball 8-12 times a game this year like his talent suggests he can.

Great points. ASU tends to spread it around as they take what is open. Just like they switch from run heavy to pass heavy game to game, they switch which WR gets more balls his way. Smart teams double Quick every play which opened holes for CoCo and Cline. When teams try to single cover Quick it gets ugly, see Wofford and Citadel games mentioned above.

If Quick can improve his underneath routes he could take over every game at this level. He also needs to continue to get stronger, but that has improved as has his down field blocking.

[phoenixphanatic21]

Watch ASU vs. Citadel last year. He showed what you are talking about against 4th round pick Cortez Allen when he torched him for two touchdowns. He has had some big games against Wofford in his career as well. For some reason ASU doesn't throw him the ball enough and instead spreads it around. It will be interesting if they ever do a highlight of him because he has about 7 or 8 catches in his career that would even blow away most Terrell Hudgins fans. While Quick hasn't done in week in and week out and he hasn't had a big 200-yard game or anything he has shown a couple times in his career that he can take over a game. Hopefully, they will throw him the ball 8-12 times a game this year like his talent suggests he can.

I hope he does succeed at the next level, I really do. I wish him all the best.

Also, does anyone have a career highlight reel for Quick? I'd be interested to see that.

[chattownmocs]

I agree that Quick is clearly the best pro prospect. But you have to think that with the connection Coleman and Bradford have had throwing and catching for years, they are going to put up HUGE numbers this year.

[Eaglesrus]

Another unfounded statement.

Interesting that you say that to someone else.

[Saint3333]

Quick is a nice player--tall, rangy, deadly in the redzone--but he's not Hudgins.

NFL scouts would agree.

[asumike83]

Another unfounded statement.

It's not completely unfounded. Chattanooga had a great shot at the postseason until Coleman threw 5 picks at home against an Elon defense that was average at best. With a chance at redemption against Wofford in the finale, he was 15/34 with no TD and an INT. 'Choke artist' may be a little strong at this point, but he didn't come through when it counted.

[appstate38]

Really excited about this season... SoCon looking strong once again. It will be very difficult for anybody to run the table this year. Everyone has gotten better and I don't think there will be many easy wins this year.

[SideLine Shooter]

I honestly don't have a horse in this race, but the comparison of Quick to Hudgins really is a non-starter at this stage. I have watched a lot of SoCon football, and Hudgins gets put up there with some of the great players I've seen. A guy that simply took over football games. Quick is a nice player--tall, rangy, deadly in the redzone--but he's not Hudgins.

The only times I have seen Hudgins was against App and honestly I was not impressed. Quick has ability like a Randy Moss except he does not give up on bringing a recption in. His concentration is wild. Visit the link: http://sidelineshooter.smugmug.com/Sports/Appalachian-State-Georgia/14565479_YuXt9#1082672330_VxEHS

Look at his catch on frames 3305 thru 3314 and then his reception and run on frames 3054 thru 3084 as he runs thru over half of that great GSU defense. {It really was a good defense}

[PhoenixPhan06]

I'm looking forward to a wide open year in the SoCon, too bad I won't be able to make it to any games being in TX. Any suggestions of game feeds?

[PaladinFan]

I'm looking forward to a wide open year in the SoCon, too bad I won't be able to make it to any games being in TX. Any suggestions of game feeds?

I feel the pain. I've been to more Texas State games the past few years than Furman games.

[chattownmocs]

Interesting that you say that to someone else.

When I make statements they are based off of the total body of relevant evidence. BJ Coleman has been very clutch at times, and has made critical mistakes at times. Overall I think he has been more clutch than not. So to call him a choke artist at this point in his career is pretty unfounded if you ask me.

[Smitty]

I'm looking forward to a wide open year in the SoCon, too bad I won't be able to make it to any games being in TX. Any suggestions of game feeds?

Pulled this from Catamount Sports Forum


Some very interesting comments by SoCon commissioner John Iamarino prior to the football teleconference Monday. It's worth your time to listen to his comments.

Iamarino's comments

Highlights of his comments:

-Games will be carried by the main PBS channels in Georgia, South Carolina, and on UNC-TV Explorer channel in North Carolina.

-Games will be streamed online on SoCon TV for Free.

-Still working on Alabama & Tennessee PBS to sign on.

-Media Day will return to an in person live event next year, no more teleconference media days.

-New coordinator of officials - Jack Childress


So you should be able to see some on your computer this coming year.

[PhoenixPhan06]

Preciate it man

[blueballs]

I don't have a dog in the hunt vis a vis Hudgens vs. Quick but I have an opinion as an opposing fan who has seen way too much of both.

The difference between Hudgens and Quick is one of development and suitability for the college game. Quick has more NFL type talent and upside but Hudgens was polished, physical, and more developed as a player relative to Quick. Quick ain't 1/10 the college player Hudgens was. Hudgens was one of the best ever. Hudgens was a certified badass and it is pretty apparent what Elon was with him vs. without him.

I always though Quick would get a shot at the NFL and Hudgens would wind up in the Arena League as a Barry Wagner type player. IMO Hudgens would be devastating indoors.

I like the receiver Elon had last year too, Mallette (sp?). Big, rangy, physical like Hudgens but nowhere near as dominant.

One other thing... Coleman ain't done squat. If you don't at least MAKE the playoffs- let alone win multiple playoff games- in the SoCon you are nothing more than an also ran.

Hooray!!! You led your team to consecutive 6-5 seasons. At GSU, App, and Furman that gets you benched and the coach fired. Chatty boy, you can fool yourself into thinking you've got something special, and relative to what you've had in the past you do, but he ain't done jack until he gets to the playoffs and wins MULTIPLE games... he's just another decent player devoid of real significant accomplishment.

[SoCon48]

Pulled this from Catamount Sports Forum



So you should be able to see some on your computer this coming year.

What the heck is the Explorer channel?