OK, here's my attempt at a playoff rundown:

[TheBisonator]

(BTW, the next person to mention Montana I'm going to scream. Montana is out.)

Autobids:

Montana State
Coastal Carolina
Delaware
Northern Iowa
Bethune-Cookman
Southeast Missouri State
Robert Morris
Lehigh
Appalachian State
Stephen F. Austin

These are all the teams who have 7 DI wins (not counting SWAC or Ivy teams) fighting for 10 at-large spots:

18 teams fighting for 10 at-large spots.

Eastern Washington (9-2)
Liberty (8-3)
William & Mary (8-3)
New Hampshire (7-4)
Villanova (7-4)
Old Dominion (8-3)
South Carolina State (9-2)
Florida A&M (8-3)
Western Illinois (7-4)
North Dakota State (7-4)
Central Connecticut State (8-3)
Duquesne (7-4)
Colgate (7-4)
Jacksonville State (9-2)
Dayton (10-1)
Jacksonville (10-1)
Wofford (9-2)
Georgia Southern (7-4)

Take away CCSU, Colgate, Duquesne and ODU, and you get 10 spots for 14 teams:

Eastern Washington (9-2)
Liberty (8-3)
William & Mary (8-3)
New Hampshire (7-4)
Villanova (7-4)
South Carolina State (9-2)
Florida A&M (8-3)
Western Illinois (7-4)
North Dakota State (7-4)
Dayton (10-1)
Jacksonville (10-1)
Wofford (9-2)
Georgia Southern (7-4)

What four do you take out???

[purplejacks]

(BTW, the next person to mention Montana I'm going to scream. Montana is out.)

Autobids:

Montana State
Coastal Carolina
Delaware
Northern Iowa
Bethune-Cookman
Southeast Missouri State
Robert Morris
Lehigh
Appalachian State
Stephen F. Austin

These are all the teams who have 7 DI wins (not counting SWAC or Ivy teams) fighting for 10 at-large spots:

17 teams fighting for 10 at-large spots.

Eastern Washington (9-2)
Liberty (8-3)
William & Mary (8-3)
New Hampshire (7-4)
Villanova (7-4)
Old Dominion (8-3)
South Carolina State (9-2)
Florida A&M (8-3)
Western Illinois (7-4)
North Dakota State (7-4)
Central Connecticut State (8-3)
Duquesne (7-4)
Colgate (7-4)
Dayton (10-1)
Jacksonville (10-1)
Wofford (9-2)
Georgia Southern (7-4)

Take away CCSU, Colgate, Duquesne and ODU, and you get 10 spots for 13 teams:

Eastern Washington (9-2)
Liberty (8-3)
William & Mary (8-3)
New Hampshire (7-4)
Villanova (7-4)
South Carolina State (9-2)
Florida A&M (8-3)
Western Illinois (7-4)
North Dakota State (7-4)
Dayton (10-1)
Jacksonville (10-1)
Wofford (9-2)
Georgia Southern (7-4)

What three do you take out???

Great Job with the list and the records

3 that come off the table are:

North Dakota State (7-4)
Dayton (10-1)
Jacksonville (10-1)

[appfan2008]

(BTW, the next person to mention Montana I'm going to scream. Montana is out.)

Autobids:

Montana State
Coastal Carolina
Delaware
Northern Iowa
Bethune-Cookman
Southeast Missouri State
Robert Morris
Lehigh
Appalachian State
Stephen F. Austin

These are all the teams who have 7 DI wins (not counting SWAC or Ivy teams) fighting for 10 at-large spots:

17 teams fighting for 10 at-large spots.

Eastern Washington (9-2)
Liberty (8-3)
William & Mary (8-3)
New Hampshire (7-4)
Villanova (7-4)
Old Dominion (8-3)
South Carolina State (9-2)
Florida A&M (8-3)
Western Illinois (7-4)
North Dakota State (7-4)
Central Connecticut State (8-3)
Duquesne (7-4)
Colgate (7-4)
Dayton (10-1)
Jacksonville (10-1)
Wofford (9-2)
Georgia Southern (7-4)

Take away CCSU, Colgate, Duquesne and ODU, and you get 10 spots for 13 teams:

Eastern Washington (9-2)
Liberty (8-3)
William & Mary (8-3)
New Hampshire (7-4)
Villanova (7-4)
South Carolina State (9-2)
Florida A&M (8-3)
Western Illinois (7-4)
North Dakota State (7-4)
Dayton (10-1)
Jacksonville (10-1)
Wofford (9-2)
Georgia Southern (7-4)

What three do you take out???

Florida A&M
Dayton
NDSU

[TheBisonator]

Great Job with the list and the records

3 that come off the table are:

North Dakota State (7-4)
Dayton (10-1)
Jacksonville (10-1)

What makes, for example, New Hampshire deserving and NDSU not, in your eyes??

[TheBisonator]

Florida A&M
Dayton
NDSU

Same question: What makes, for example, Jacksonville deserving and NDSU not, in your eyes??

[Redhawk2010]

(BTW, the next person to mention Montana I'm going to scream. Montana is out.)

Autobids:

Montana State
Coastal Carolina
Delaware
Northern Iowa
Bethune-Cookman
Southeast Missouri State
Robert Morris
Lehigh
Appalachian State
Stephen F. Austin

These are all the teams who have 7 DI wins (not counting SWAC or Ivy teams) fighting for 10 at-large spots:

17 teams fighting for 10 at-large spots.

Eastern Washington (9-2)
Liberty (8-3)
William & Mary (8-3)
New Hampshire (7-4)
Villanova (7-4)
Old Dominion (8-3)
South Carolina State (9-2)
Florida A&M (8-3)
Western Illinois (7-4)
North Dakota State (7-4)
Central Connecticut State (8-3)
Duquesne (7-4)
Colgate (7-4)
Dayton (10-1)
Jacksonville (10-1)
Wofford (9-2)
Georgia Southern (7-4)

Take away CCSU, Colgate, Duquesne and ODU, and you get 10 spots for 13 teams:

Eastern Washington (9-2)
Liberty (8-3)
William & Mary (8-3)
New Hampshire (7-4)
Villanova (7-4)
South Carolina State (9-2)
Florida A&M (8-3)
Western Illinois (7-4)
North Dakota State (7-4)
Dayton (10-1)
Jacksonville (10-1)
Wofford (9-2)
Georgia Southern (7-4)

What three do you take out???

Umm... Jacksonville State is 9 and 2 and absent from your lists..

[TheBisonator]

Umm... Jacksonville State is 9 and 2 and absent from your lists..

Thanks for noticing.

[tandemlax]

I think Fla A&M has no shot at all. I definitely don't see both PFL teams in, and it looks like Jacksonville seems to have more buzz, likely due to the stonger computer profile. My guess is that Dayton won't get a bid. I think Jacksonville and Liberty are most likely the last teams out.

And, not that it matters much, but W&M is the auto qualifier from the CAA

[HandoEX]

Dayton
Florida A&M
Jacksonville

I would hope that there's no way Floriday A&M gets in over NDSU. They were 83rd in the most recent GPI...NDSU was 15, followed by Dayton at 57th and Jacksonville at 36th. I know the GPI isn't everything, but come on!

[soccerguy315]

UNH's schedule was much tougher, IMO

[Go Apps]

NDSU
Dayton
Fla A&M

Liberty

[TheBisonator]

NDSU
Dayton
Fla A&M

Liberty

AGAIN with the Jacksonville over NDSU crap???

[lehidude]

AGAIN with the Jacksonville over NDSU crap???

Why is their opinion any worse than yours?

[purplejacks]

What makes, for example, New Hampshire deserving and NDSU not, in your eyes??

North Dakota State Bison
Sep 4 - W at Kansas, 6-3
Sep 11 - L at Northern Iowa, 9-16
Sep 18 - W vs. Morgan State, 35-9
Sep 25 - W vs. South Dakota, 38-16
Oct 2 - L vs. Western Ill, 16-28
Oct 9 - W at Youngstown St, 34-29
Oct 16 - L at Illinois State, 24-34
Oct 23 - W vs. Indiana State, 27-15
Oct 30 - Open
Nov 6 - W vs. Southern Ill, 20-6
Nov 13 - W vs. South Dakota St, 31-24
Nov 20 - L at Missouri State, 0-3

Other than Kansas....who did NDSU beat ??????

[TheBisonator]

Why is their opinion any worse than yours?

Look, I have NEVER watched my school play in the playoffs. I was in school at NDSU from 2003-2009. The last time we made the playoffs was 10 years ago, when I was a HS senior who payed no attention to NDSU. I was a Bison football staff member for three years. I went through the transition years. You don't know how bad I want this for my team.

[TheBisonator]

North Dakota State Bison
Sep 4 - W at Kansas, 6-3
Sep 11 - L at Northern Iowa, 9-16
Sep 18 - W vs. Morgan State, 35-9
Sep 25 - W vs. South Dakota, 38-16
Oct 2 - L vs. Western Ill, 16-28
Oct 9 - W at Youngstown St, 34-29
Oct 16 - L at Illinois State, 24-34
Oct 23 - W vs. Indiana State, 27-15
Oct 30 - Open
Nov 6 - W vs. Southern Ill, 20-6
Nov 13 - W vs. South Dakota St, 31-24
Nov 20 - L at Missouri State, 0-3

Other than Kansas....who did NDSU beat ??????

Other than Nova, who did New Hampshire beat??

[lehidude]

The Missouri State game is the most glaring reason why the Bison have no place in the post season. They gained 30 YARDS IN THE WHOLE FIRST HALF, finishing the game with a meager 120. And it isn't like the 5-6 Missouri State team is any good. They missed 3 chip shots, so it shoulda been 12-0, anyways.

Please, spare me the Kansas story. It was the beginning of the season, and I think their basketball team could give them a run for the money on the gridiron.

[purplejacks]

Other than Nova, who did New Hampshire beat??

For crying out loud man... they play in the Colonial Athletic Association.... I mean if you read this board, they practically invented the sport of football

New Hampshire Wildcats
Sep 4 - W vs. Cent Conn St, 33-3
Sep 11 - L at Pittsburgh, 16-38
Sep 18 - L at Rhode Island, 25-28
Sep 25 - W vs. Lehigh, 31-10
Oct 2 - L at Maine, 13-16 OT
Oct 9 - W vs. Richmond, 17-0
Oct 16 - W at James Madison, 28-14
Oct 23 - W vs. Massachusetts, 39-13
Oct 30 - Open
Nov 6 - L vs. William & Mary, 3-13
Nov 13 - W at Villanova, 31-24
Nov 20 - W vs. Towson, 38-19

[Squealofthepig]

Look, I have NEVER watched my school play in the playoffs. I was in school at NDSU from 2003-2009. The last time we made the playoffs was 10 years ago, when I was a HS senior who payed no attention to NDSU. I was a Bison football staff member for three years. I went through the transition years. You don't know how bad I want this for my team.

Well, want it for your team, but try to think rationally - others' opinions may be valid. As I've said in other threads, I think NDSU is in, but I can see the argument for Jacksonville, too.

oh, and:


Other than Nova, who did New Hampshire beat??

You're not seriously asking this, are you? Lehigh, Richmond, JMU, UMass, Villanova. None of those are quality wins? Really? I'd take any of those teams over Kansas. Heck, I'd still take NDSU over Kansas. By a safety, this time. :)

[TheBisonator]

Well, want it for your team, but try to think rationally - others' opinions may be valid. As I've said in other threads, I think NDSU is in, but I can see the argument for Jacksonville, too.

oh, and:



You're not seriously asking this, are you? Lehigh, Richmond, JMU, UMass, Villanova. None of those are quality wins? Really? I'd take any of those teams over Kansas. Heck, I'd still take NDSU over Kansas. By a safety, this time. :)

Well, in our defense, South Dakota, Indiana State, South Dakota State and Southern Illinois were no pushovers this year either...

[Dblue]

The 20 playoff teams are easy to see, you just have to know where to look. Go to the yahoo page with the FCS standings (by conference, and I'll put the link at the bottom of the page.) The Big Picture jumps off the page at you.
Starting at the top of the page and going left to right you have
2 from the Big Sky (MSU, EWU)
2 from the Big South (CCU, Liberty)
4 from the CAA (UD, W & M, UNH, VU)
0 from the Great West
0 from the Ivy
2 from the MEAC (BCU, SCST)
3 from the MVC (UNI, WIU, NDSU)
1 from the NEC (RMU)
2 from the OVC (SEMO, JSU)
1 from the Patriot (Lehigh)
0 from the Pioneer
2 from the Socon (ASU, Wofford)
1 from the SLC (SFA)
0 from the SWAC
0 from the Independents

If my math is correct that is 20, and that is what I believe to be the playoff field.
Yahoo...http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/standings?div=iaa .
I welcome everyone's thoughts.

Edit: For the fun of it.

[Redhawk2010]

Look, I have NEVER watched my school play in the playoffs. I was in school at NDSU from 2003-2009. The last time we made the playoffs was 10 years ago, when I was a HS senior who payed no attention to NDSU. I was a Bison football staff member for three years. I went through the transition years. You don't know how bad I want this for my team.

I've never seen my school in the playoffs before either.. This is the FIRST TIME in school history! At ANY LEVEL to make the playoffs in football! And we've been DI for nearly 20 years.. I also spent some time working with the football team here.. it's a great feeling for the players, the staff, and the coaches. And finally the community! We have Jackonsville State to thank for making sure we're in..

[Squealofthepig]

Well, in our defense, South Dakota, Indiana State, South Dakota State and Southern Illinois were no pushovers this year either...

I wholeheartedly agree with this. Just saying that comparing yourself to UNH is not exactly a persuasive argument. :)

SIU - man, now there's a team I really don't understand this year.

[GaSouthern]

The 20 playoff teams are easy to see, you just have to know where to look. Go to the yahoo page with the FCS standings (by conference, and I'll put the link at the bottom of the page.) The Big Picture jumps off the page at you.
Starting at the top of the page and going left to right you have
2 from the Big Sky (MSU, EWU)
2 from the Big South (Stony Brook, Liberty)
4 from the CAA (UD, W & M, UNH, VU)
0 from the Great West
0 from the Ivy
2 from the MEAC (BCU, SCST)
3 from the MVC (UNI, WIU, NDSU)
1 from the NEC (RMU)
2 from the OVC (SEMO, JSU)
1 from the Patriot (Lehigh)
0 from the Pioneer
2 from the Socon (ASU, Wofford)
1 from the SLC (SFA)
0 from the SWAC
0 from the Independents

If my math is correct that is 20, and that is what I believe to be the playoff field.
Yahoo...http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/standings?div=iaa .
I welcome everyone's thoughts.

So GSU is out according to you?

[WIU02]

The 20 playoff teams are easy to see, you just have to know where to look. Go to the yahoo page with the FCS standings (by conference, and I'll put the link at the bottom of the page.) The Big Picture jumps off the page at you.
Starting at the top of the page and going left to right you have
2 from the Big Sky (MSU, EWU)
2 from the Big South (Stony Brook, Liberty)
4 from the CAA (UD, W & M, UNH, VU)
0 from the Great West
0 from the Ivy
2 from the MEAC (BCU, SCST)
3 from the MVC (UNI, WIU, NDSU)
1 from the NEC (RMU)
2 from the OVC (SEMO, JSU)
1 from the Patriot (Lehigh)
0 from the Pioneer
2 from the Socon (ASU, Wofford)
1 from the SLC (SFA)
0 from the SWAC
0 from the Independents

If my math is correct that is 20, and that is what I believe to be the playoff field.
Yahoo...http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/standings?div=iaa .
I welcome everyone's thoughts.

No team from the Pioneer? The conference is weak...but C'MON MAN!!! And yes, Georgia Southern is in.

[R.A.]

FAMU might have no shot... but they sure did look good today.

[Dblue]

So GSU is out according to you?

Dude, you must have sent the power of suggestion through the interweb to me. After I posted I glanced up at the Yahoo page on my big screen and noticed GSU has 7 wins. It fooled me because Chattie with only 6 wins overall is above GSU. Crap, I thought I had it figured out. Well, I'll stick with my original above but I would not be surprised if GSU is selected.

[lehidude]

Sticking with Stony Brook too? ;-)

[Squealofthepig]

Sticking with Stony Brook too? ;-)

OK, out with Stony Brook, in with Towson. (Towson might be the one team with arguably a better chance to win in the playoffs than the regular season).

[Achilles Return]

NDSU doesn't make it in over GSU, imo.

[Dblue]

Sticking with Stony Brook too? ;-)

Now I'm confused. Isn't Stony the AQ?

[lehidude]

AQ.

CC got the AQ today.

[aceinthehole]

Take away CCSU, Colgate, Duquesne and ODU, and you get 10 spots for 14 teams:


Why do you take out CCSU?

Central (8-3, 7-1 NEC) was co-champion of the 8th rated conference (ahead of the Big South, MEAC, Patriot and PFL).
CCSU's GPI is nearly the same as Liberty or SC State.
2 of CCSU's 3 losses are to playoff teams (UNH and RMU)

[WIU02]

NDSU doesn't make it in over GSU, imo.

Nice sig pic. I'm sure your opinion is unbiased.

[lehidude]

2 of CCSU's 3 losses are to playoff teams (UNH and RMU)

And the third was a VERY ugly loss to YSU.

There are 20 teams in the playoffs. Why should an at-large with a GPI of 52 recieve consideration?

[Squealofthepig]

Edit: Double post

[Squealofthepig]

Why do you take out CCSU?

Central (8-3, 7-1 NEC) was co-champion of the 8th rated conference (ahead of the Big South, MEAC, Patriot and PFL).
CCSU's GPI is nearly the same as Liberty or SC State.
2 of CCSU's 3 losses are to playoff teams (UNH and RMU)

Just the messenger! Most likely they're looking at a lack of a signature win - here's CCSU's wins and losses, along with the most recent gpi ranking of each team:

Losses
10 @ New Hampshire
49 @ Youngstown State
24 @ Robert Morris

Wins
n/a Bentley College
68 Bryant University
100 at Sacred Heart
67 Duquesne
69 at Albany (OT)
79 Wagner
82 at Monmouth
110 at St. Francis PA

The scheduling was right, and if you win any of those three there's little discussion and we're all non-Duke Blue Devils fans. :)

[aceinthehole]

And the third was a VERY ugly loss to YSU.

There are 20 teams in the playoffs. Why should an at-large with a GPI of 52 recieve consideration?

So how can anyone consider Liberty or SC State, they have the same GPI?

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

So how can anyone consider Liberty or SC State, they have the same GPI?

Dolla Dolla Bills Ya'll........

[Dblue]

CC got the AQ today.

Thank you for helping an old man. I will edit in CCU, edit out Stony. But I'm thinking Liberty stays in..........until I change my mind again. :D

[FCSoverFBS]

So how can anyone consider Liberty or SC State, they have the same GPI?

If it were soley based on GPI none of those teams would be considered but there is so much more that goes into it.

[aceinthehole]

Just the messenger! Most likely they're looking at a lack of a signature win - here's CCSU's wins and losses, along with the most recent gpi ranking of each team:

Losses
10 @ New Hampshire
49 @ Youngstown State
24 @ Robert Morris

Wins
n/a Bentley College
68 Bryant University
100 at Sacred Heart
67 Duquesne
69 at Albany (OT)
79 Wagner
82 at Monmouth
110 at St. Francis PA

The scheduling was right, and if you win any of those three there's little discussion and we're all non-Duke Blue Devils fans. :)

Yeah, but where is the signature win from SC State or the PFL candidates?. Liberty will get due credit for Ball State as an FBS, but they lost to Coastal - a much worse loss by GPI than CCSU's loss to YSU!

[Squealofthepig]

Yeah, but where is the signature win from SC State or the PFL candidates?. Liberty will get due credit for Ball State as an FBS, but they lost to Coastal - a much worse loss by GPI than CCSU's loss to YSU!

Agree. Just the messenger on why some may be down on SC State. :)

[lehidude]

So how can anyone consider Liberty or SC State, they have the same GPI?


As like your team, 2 of Liberty's 3 losses were to playoff teams. Their third loss was a close 10-3 to JMU, whereas Youngstown State took you to the cleaners.

I'm not on the SC State bandwagon. As with your team, they don't deserve a bid either.

[Dblue]

Why do you take out CCSU?

Central (8-3, 7-1 NEC) was co-champion of the 8th rated conference (ahead of the Big South, MEAC, Patriot and PFL).

I didn't take out CCSU, they were never in. Even though I think CCSU is a better team than Liberty, the people that decide later on this morning will give a lot of weight to Liberty's win over a bad Ball State.

[Achilles Return]

Beating App State is a better win than beating Kansas.

[aceinthehole]

As like your team, 2 of Liberty's 3 losses were to playoff teams. Their third loss was a close 10-3 to JMU, whereas Youngstown State took you to the cleaners.

I'm not on the SC State bandwagon. As with your team, they don't deserve a bid either.

I think Liberty has a big advantage over the others with an FBS win and 2 "good losses" (JMU/RMU). However, the loss to CCU and the realitve weak Big South schedule poses many serious questions for me.

SC State has been so overated it isn't funny. I don't thinnk they have more than 1 win vs a team with a winning record. Their SOS is horrible and in no way do I think they or the PFL teams have a better resume or are more deserving of an at-large bid than CCSU.

[FCSoverFBS]

I didn't take out CCSU, they were never in. Even though I think CCSU is a better team than Liberty, the people that decide later on this morning will give a lot of weight to Liberty's win over a bad Ball State.

That CCSU team is a great team but that YSU game really was a smacking. LU has a good win vs a ball state team, and 2 losses to play off teams and a loss to at the time a 3rd ranked jmu team by a comined 21 ponits i believe.

[FargoBison]

I think Liberty has a big advantage over the others with an FBS win and 2 "good losses" (JMU/RMU). However, the loss to CCU and the realitve weak Big South schedule poses many serious questions for me.

SC State has been so overated it isn't funny. I don't thinnk they have more than 1 win vs a team with a winning record. Their SOS is horrible and in no way do I think they or the PFL teams have a better resume or are more deserving of an at-large bid than CCSU.

I am really interested in seeing how the committee will evaluate SCSU, they have no quality wins and haven't really played anyone outside of Ga Tech. They did show well last year but that was last year.

[Squealofthepig]

I am really interested in seeing how the committee will evaluate SCSU, they have no quality wins and haven't really played anyone outside of Ga Tech. They did show well last year but that was last year.

As another poster pointed out to me, prior year's experience/success IS something the committee can consider. How's that for wacky?

[WIU02]

I am really interested in seeing how the committee will evaluate SCSU, they have no quality wins and haven't really played anyone outside of Ga Tech. They did show well last year but that was last year.

This 'last year' nonsense needs to stop. NOW. WIU was 1-10 last year, and will clinch a playoff spot this season. There were many reasons why we went 1-10 last year with virtually the same players this year. Injuries, lack of devolpment, etc...We had one player admit that our QB Barr missing seven games kept us from having a .500+ season. Yeah, it's all speculation. So no, in no f'ing way should 2009 have a bearing on 2010. The entire concept is ludicrous for a myriad of reasons.

[FargoBison]

This 'last year' nonsense needs to stop. NOW. WIU was 1-10 last year, and will clinch a playoff spot this season. There were many reasons why we went 1-10 last year with virtually the same players this year. Injuries, lack of devolpment, etc...We had one player admit that our QB Barr missing seven games kept us from having a .500+ season. Yeah, it's all speculation. So no, in no f'ing way should 2009 have a bearing on 2010. The entire concept is ludicrous for a myriad of reasons.

I agree but if you ask people with SCSU in their bracket they like to talk about last year.

[Redhawk2010]

This 'last year' nonsense needs to stop. NOW. WIU was 1-10 last year, and will clinch a playoff spot this season. There were many reasons why we went 1-10 last year with virtually the same players this year. Injuries, lack of devolpment, etc...We had one player admit that our QB Barr missing seven games kept us from having a .500+ season. Yeah, it's all speculation. So no, in no f'ing way should 2009 have a bearing on 2010. The entire concept is ludicrous for a myriad of reasons.

Agreed. Look at SEMO. 2-9 in 2009 and hadn't had a winning season since 2002. Now they are an AQ but they were most likely in anyway at 9-2 this year.

[ToTheLeft]

Yeah, but where is the signature win from SC State or the PFL candidates?. Liberty will get due credit for Ball State as an FBS, but they lost to Coastal - a much worse loss by GPI than CCSU's loss to YSU!

Much worse???

First of all, the margin was closer, CCSU wasn't competitive at all against YSU. All of LU's losses combined were by a smaller margin than CCSU's loss to YSU or their loss to UNH, take your pick.

And second of all, CCU is a playoff team and their GPI is not that much worse than YSU's. There were 15 spots between them before this week, less than 10 points, and CCU's huge win this week will only catch them up with the Penguins.

LU's other losses were to NEC Champ RMU, on the road, and JMU, on the road. Both by 1 score. CCSU was uncompetitive with UNH, and got beat pretty easily going away by RMU.

And LU beat Ball State, and played an all DI schedule. LU has the better resume.

[ToTheLeft]

I think Liberty has a big advantage over the others with an FBS win and 2 "good losses" (JMU/RMU). However, the loss to CCU and the realitve weak Big South schedule poses many serious questions for me.

SC State has been so overated it isn't funny. I don't thinnk they have more than 1 win vs a team with a winning record. Their SOS is horrible and in no way do I think they or the PFL teams have a better resume or are more deserving of an at-large bid than CCSU.

We agree on this. CCSU is more deserving than a MEAC or PFL team.

In my summary earlier I put that CCSU or Duquense could be like Maine was a couple years ago, a team that gets in that no one really expected. It's not who I think has the best resume, but it's possible.

[ToTheLeft]

I agree but if you ask people with SCSU in their bracket they like to talk about last year.

And that makes me furious. Your Bison, my Flames, and ace's Blue Devils are all so much more deserving than a MEAC team, especially SCSU, who was shut out, at home, by Bethune-Cookman.

[FargoBison]

And that makes me furious. Your Bison, my Flames, and ace's Blue Devils are all so much more deserving than a MEAC team, especially SCSU, who was shut out, at home, by Bethune-Cookman.

If it was up to me I'd take Liberty and NDSU. Leave Jacksonville, Dayton and SCSU at home.

[UNHFootballAlum]

Other than Nova, who did New Hampshire beat??

At the time that they played them these teams were all ranked in the top 12, JMU, Richmond, Villanova, & UMASS. Can NDSU claim that with their wins?

[Squealofthepig]

Guys: The committee is free to consider previous team's success/lack of success in their selection process.

Frankly, it's the most annoying caveat I can think of, but it is part of their selection criteria. Get in with a sucky conference representative and it can haunt you for years, which doesn't seem fair.