SOCON KING OF ATTENDANCE!

[JDC325]

SoCon Knocks SWAC Off For Football Attendance Title
Courtesy: Southern Conference
Release: 02/02/2006


Courtesy: Southern Conference


SPARTANBURG, SC – The NCAA released the final football attendance figures for the 2005 season, and the Southern Conference came out on top among the 16 I-AA conferences, ending the Southwestern Athletic Conference’s 27-year hold on the attendance title.



The eight-team SoCon averaged 11,138 fans, an increase of 1,175 fans per game from a year ago. The SoCon was followed by the Big Sky (10,813), SWAC (10,527), Gateway (10,086) and Mid-Eastern (9.967). The SoCon was second in I-aA in total attendance with 512,370 fans, trailing only the Atlantic-10 (578,820).



Four league schools finished in the top 25 in average attendance in 2005. Appalachian State was fifth nationally in attendance, averaging 17,917 fans. The Mountaineers drew 125,417 fans in seven home games.



Georgia Southern was one spot behind ASU in sixth, averaging 16,241 fans. The Citadel was 21st, drawing 11,674 fans per game, while Furman was 23rd (11,052).

[TexasTerror]

The SWAC was third? Say it ain't so!

Anyone going to post this on SWAC Page? I bet they don't post it as they tend to shy away from negativity towards their product and their schools...

http://www.swacpage.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=2

[BigApp]

The Mountaineers drew 125,417 fans in seven home games.
(11,052).


And all 7 games were "Classics"!! :beerchug:

[Ronbo]

The Big Sky would be in trouble if our attendance dropped. :( :rolleyes:

[GAD]

:hurray: Congrats SOCON :hurray:

[catamount man]

Lord knows I did my part. ;) Missed only one WCU conference game last year and that was at Chattanooga. Congrats SoCon! GO CATAMOUNTS!!!

[gram4life]

The SWAC was third? Say it ain't so!

Anyone going to post this on SWAC Page? I bet they don't post it as they tend to shy away from negativity towards their product and their schools...

http://www.swacpage.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=2

Man you really have issues with regards to the SWAC. No hate from this SWAC guy. Infact congrads to the SoCon

[Panther88]

Man you really have issues with regards to the SWAC. No hate from this SWAC guy. Infact congrads to the SoCon

But let the TRUTH be spoken on this smack site g4l. WE ALL know that the hurricanes and devastation contributed greatly to the demise of ALL SWAC schools #s. Even the stolid GSU-PVU affair that normally does > 52K-54K in Dallas ONLY had ~28K-29K. Terrible considering how great the weather was in Dallas that weekend. :(

Ditto for Bayou Classic and even JStates documented ills and drop in home attendance. :(

Congrats SoCon. About time some entity stepped up.

[3rd Coast Tiger]

Congratulations SoCon!

TexasTerror you are so sad.

[TexasTerror]

Glad you folks from the SWAC have a sense of humor...

I was just kidding you fellas because I know attendance was one thing that was harped on repeatedly by several posters on here that made the SWAC seem like some "super conference" or something. We're all I-AA. We all want our conferences to do better, we all want to play for a national title (unless we're stuck as a mid-major because of the NCAA or in the Ivy or SWAC). This is I-AA football folks. We love it with a passion and I was just having some good ole' fashioned ribbing at the expense of several SWAC folks here...

Though, I knew I'd be right about no one posting it on SWAC Page. There's just no negativity on that board towards the SWAC. When Jafus brings up a point, it's taken into account and everyone doesn't say a thing. Jafus knows his stuff. Amazing guy that Jafus...

[*****]

SoCon Knocks SWAC Off For Football Attendance Title
Courtesy: Southern Conference ...JDC, please do not post other website's content in its entirety on AGS. Post enough and always post the link:
http://www.soconsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4000&ATCLID=233987

[*****]

This is based on home attendance figures.

SOCON:
Appalachian St. 7 125,417
Ga. Southern 6 97,443
Citadel 5 58,369
Furman 7 77,366
Western Caro. 5 45,497
Elon 6 44,293
Wofford 5 33,371
Chattanooga 5 30,614

46 games, 11,138 avg.

SWAC:
Southern U. 4 79,552
Jackson St. 5 72,986
Alabama St. 4 56,729
Grambling 4 48,855
Texas Southern 5 51,164
Ark.-Pine Bluff 4 39,604
Alcorn St. 6 53,600
Alabama A&M 5 33,271
Mississippi Val. 5 31,338
Prairie View 4 17,149

46 games, 10,527 avg.

NOT COUNTED:

If they were the home team then these should be added to each team's home total and averaged to show the SWAC averaged 15,080:
Alabama A&M 68238
Grambling 53214
Jackson St. 48300
Mississippi Val. 45000
Ark.-Pine Bluff 35900
Prairie View 27949
Alabama St. 24811
Jackson St. 21130
Grambling 20612
http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/Internet/attendance/iaa_attendance.html

National leaders in accumulated attendance
1 Coastal Caro.
2 Iona

[HensRock]

National leaders in accumulated attendance
1 Coastal Caro.
2 Iona


What's accumulated attendance?

[Gil Dobie]

Great West averaged 7,804 per game, still room to grow.

Total/ G/ Avg /School
84962/ 6/ 14,160 /NDSU
37549/ 5/ 7,510 /UNC
48538/ 7/ 6,934 /SDSU
31685/ 5/ 6,337 /UCD
41755/ 6/ 6,959 /Cal Poly
13056/ 4/ 3,264 /S Utah
257545/ 33/ 7,804 /Conference

[Gil Dobie]

National leaders in accumulated attendance
1 Coastal Caro.
2 Iona

I think you meant to say Accumulated Percentage of Capacity :)

[TexasTerror]

Attendance was up in the SLC this year, slightly and that's a surprise considering all the mess between Katrina and Rita that really threw things around for our Louisiana schools and even shuffled up some of the Texas schools (i.e SHSU cancelling Missouri St home game, Parents' Weekend).

I'm going to credit the Bobcats nice run and the playoff games for the increase in attendance making up for all the messes of this year. Here's hoping for an increase next year. Between the Louisiana schools bouncing back and if the Bobcats stay stable in terms of attendance (helps that they have the largest university in the SLC and success helps the figure balloon), we should be able to do so...

16 TxSt-SM 10/128751/12875
36 SHSU 4/37074/9269
42 SFA 6/50830/8472
45 NW ST 5/41916/8383
48 McN 3/23689/7896
53 SELA/4/29387/7347
72 Nicholls 4/22318/5580

SLC 7 teams, 36 games, 304,578 fans, 9518 average, +231 in avg from previous year

Div II
15 UCA 6/43961/7326

[Ivytalk]

Any I-AA team that can break 10,000 for average attendance in this era of student apathy and distraction is doing well, IMHO.

[MACHIAVELLI]

SoCon Knocks SWAC Off For Football Attendance Title

SPARTANBURG, SC – The NCAA released the final football attendance figures for the 2005 season, and the Southern Conference came out on top among the 16 I-AA conferences, ending the Southwestern Athletic Conference’s 27-year hold on the attendance title.


27 years is a long time. Congrats

[SU Jag]

Congrats to the So Con! :nod: Hurricane Katrina really made football kind of unimportant this year in the SWAC. With JSU on their way back, I'm pretty sure we'll be back on top in 06. But still congragulations to the So Con, great job! :nod:

[SU Jag]

This is based on home attendance figures.

SOCON:
Appalachian St. 7 125,417
Ga. Southern 6 97,443
Citadel 5 58,369
Furman 7 77,366
Western Caro. 5 45,497
Elon 6 44,293
Wofford 5 33,371
Chattanooga 5 30,614

46 games, 11,138 avg.

SWAC:
Southern U. 4 79,552
Jackson St. 5 72,986
Alabama St. 4 56,729
Grambling 4 48,855
Texas Southern 5 51,164
Ark.-Pine Bluff 4 39,604
Alcorn St. 6 53,600
Alabama A&M 5 33,271
Mississippi Val. 5 31,338
Prairie View 4 17,149

46 games, 10,527 avg.

NOT COUNTED:

If they were the home team then these should be added to each team's home total and averaged to show the SWAC averaged 15,080:
Alabama A&M 68238
Grambling 53214
Jackson St. 48300
Mississippi Val. 45000
Ark.-Pine Bluff 35900
Prairie View 27949
Alabama St. 24811
Jackson St. 21130
Grambling 20612
http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/Internet/attendance/iaa_attendance.html

National leaders in accumulated attendance
1 Coastal Caro.
2 Iona


Why where those games not counted!

[Mr. C]

Because it is not considered home attendance. That would be like adding the national championship game total to Appalachian State's home attendance, considering most of the fans there were ASU fans.

[SU Jag]

Only home games are added into the attendance records correct?

[*****]

Because it is not considered home attendance. That would be like adding the national championship game total to Appalachian State's home attendance...Not true, the national championship game was post-season and those games were regular season. Post-season games were not on the NCAA attendance pdf, those games were and those teams were listed as the home teams.

[jstate83]

The SWAC was third? Say it ain't so!

Anyone going to post this on SWAC Page? I bet they don't post it as they tend to shy away from negativity towards their product and their schools...

http://www.swacpage.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=2

Clown.....................................You braggin about an 11 freakin' thousand average?


You tell US it ain't so.

[GAD]

Not to mention traveling to away games was nearly impossible all the hotels were full of evacuees, so you could not stay over night

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

Not to mention traveling to away games was nearly impossible all the hotels were full of evacuees, so you could not stay over night
Thats the thing that really killed the Swac's attendence numbers.

[SU Jag]

Everything will be back to normal this upcomming season though! Just imagine how high attendance would have been if the Classic games were averaged into the records :eek:

[Saint3333]

[QUOTE=ralph] Post-season games were not on the NCAA attendance pdfQUOTE]

Not true ASU had 4 home games in the regular season for an average of 23+K.

[*****]

Post-season games were not on the NCAA attendance pdf

Not true ASU had 4 home games in the regular season for an average of 23+K.Oops, I was looking at another report. You're right. Post-season games were counted but not regular-season "classic" games. Why is that do you think? Isn't there a designated "home" team at these games?

[SU Jag]

Yes, you're right Ralph there is a designated home team. So basically the SWAC is still attendance king right? Look at the top 10 attended games in the Country and see how many of those involve SWAC teams. :nod:

[*****]

Yes, you're right Ralph there is a designated home team. So basically the SWAC is still attendance king right? Look at the top 10 attended games in the Country and see how many of those involve SWAC teams. :nod:Then it should be added to each team's home total and averaged to show the SWAC averaged 15,080, roughly four thousand more than the second place SoCon.

[dbackjon]

Then it should be added to each team's home total and averaged to show the SWAC averaged 15,080, roughly four thousand more than the second place SoCon.

That is stretching it to include a game at a Neutral site (Memphis, Atlanta, Chicago, etc) as a 'home' game. Home games are just that - games at a school's home stadium, nothing else.

If we are measuring attendance at all games played by a team, then the SWAC would win that by a large margin.

[SU Jag]

That is stretching it to include a game at a Neutral site (Memphis, Atlanta, Chicago, etc) as a 'home' game. Home games are just that - games at a school's home stadium, nothing else.

If we are measuring attendance at all games played by a team, then the SWAC would win that by a large margin.


The SWAC owns the attendance record bottom line! More people attend SWAC games than other conference! The So Con owns the on-campus crowd but you have to remember that the bigger games in the SWAC are off-campus games! :)

[Tod]

The SWAC owns the attendance record bottom line! More people attend SWAC games than other conference! The So Con owns the on-campus crowd but you have to remember that the bigger games in the SWAC are off-campus games! :)

I would agree with you that the SWAC is tops in attendance. However, I assume that the "first time in 27 years" thing means that the SWAC owned that as well, but lost it this year.

However, as has been pointed out, the hurricanes probably had a lot to do with that. We'll see after next season.

[3rd Coast Tiger]

The SWAC owns the attendance record bottom line! More people attend SWAC games than other conference! The So Con owns the on-campus crowd but you have to remember that the bigger games in the SWAC are off-campus games! :)

Be careful SU Jag, Texas Terror will assume you speak for the hundreds of thousands of SWAC alumni when posting this and label us all with this philosophy.

Hurricane's Katrina and Rita devastated, postponed and cancelled and out right altered the SWAC's season this year so let's just leave it at that and congratulate the SoCon on it's achievement and look forward to 2006.

[TexasTerror]

Be careful SU Jag, Texas Terror will assume you speak for the hundreds of thousands of SWAC alumni when posting this and label us all with this philosophy.

3rd Coast, you just getting revved up on TT smack because your looking forward to the big three-game series between SHSU and the Tigers? I saw A&M-CC dropped you guys 55-14 over three games. Your walking into opening weekend at a new stadium. Wouldn't be surprised if Sam put one to the Tigers three times more... :)

[*****]

C'mon guys, this is not the smack board! Take that snit over there --->

[OL FU]

My opinion is that it is a bad way to keep score. Playoff games should not count (in my opinion) toward an average. Furman typically draws horribly at home during the first round. We can't seem to compete with Thanksgiving :rolleyes:

[*****]

My opinion is that it is a bad way to keep score. Playoff games should not count (in my opinion) toward an average...Agreed.

[SoCon48]

And all 7 games were "Classics"!! :beerchug:
Only 4 regular season games.

[SoCon48]

Agreed.
Ditto!

[MACHIAVELLI]

Certain classics that involve the same teams every year like Bayou, State Fair, Florida, Atlanta should be included in home attendance. Classics that rotate teams should not.

[grizband]

My opinion is that only games played at an on-campus site (or a designated home field, or those schools whose stadiums are off campus) should count for home attendance. This would give a more acurate representation of the actual home attendance figures for schools. Now I realize this opinion will not be popular with many SWAC schools who play in classics. My question is, why can't a seperate attendance figure be used in this case. SWAC schools could track attendance at their campus games, and their classic games. Other schools that do this too could follow a similar formula.

[813Jag]

I know in the case of Southern the Superdome was a designated home field in 2002 and 2004 when they played Jackson State. Those games counted as home attendance.

[MACHIAVELLI]

My opinion is that only games played at an on-campus site (or a designated home field, or those schools whose stadiums are off campus) should count for home attendance. This would give a more acurate representation of the actual home attendance figures for schools. Now I realize this opinion will not be popular with many SWAC schools who play in classics. My question is, why can't a seperate attendance figure be used in this case. SWAC schools could track attendance at their campus games, and their classic games. Other schools that do this too could follow a similar formula.


Certain classics that involve the same teams every year like Bayou, State Fair, Florida, Atlanta should be included in home attendance. Classics that rotate teams should not.

[JDC325]

And all 7 games were "Classics"!! :beerchug:

Exept ours you pretty much kicked our butts.

[JDC325]

JDC, please do not post other website's content in its entirety on AGS. Post enough and always post the link:
http://www.soconsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4000&ATCLID=233987

No problem! Now I know and knowing is half the battle...

[rokamortis]

knowing is half the battle...

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/gijoe.html

[MACHIAVELLI]

We shouldn't be penalized because we can't get 50K in our 20K stadiums. That is the main reason that some of these in state rivals were formed.

[SU Jag]

We shouldn't be penalized because we can't get 50K in our 20K stadiums. That is the main reason that some of these in state rivals were formed.


I agree! :nod: