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TheValleyRaider
December 18th, 2009, 06:26 PM
We are less than an hour away from...

The 2009 NCAA Division I Football Championship Game

from Finley Stadium in Chattanooga, TN

#1-Montana Grizzlies, 14-0
vs
#2-Villanova Wildcats, 13-1

Last Time Out
Montana - W 24-17 vs Appalachian State
Villanova - W 14-13 vs William & Mary

All-Time Series: 1st Meeting

Coaches
Montana - Bobby Hauck, 7th Season, 80-16
Villanova - Andy Talley, 25th Season, 178-111-1

TV: ESPN2

Good Luck to both teams! xnodx xthumbsupx xnodx xthumbsupx

Grizaholic17
December 18th, 2009, 06:28 PM
Marching Band is probably doing the pre-game as we speak :)

TheValleyRaider
December 18th, 2009, 06:38 PM
Starting Lineups

Montana Grizzlies
Offense
QB Andrew Selle
RB Chase Reynolds
WR Sam Gratton
WR Marc Mariani
WR Tyler Palmer
LT Levi Horn
LG Jon Opperud
C Alex Verlanic
RG Terran Hillesland
RT Chris Dyk

Defense
DE Jace Palmer
DT Tyler Hobbs
DT Austin Mullins
DE Severin Campbell
SLB Brandon Fisher
MLB Shawn Lebsock
WLB Alex Shaw
CB Keith Thompson
CB Trumaine Johnson
FS Shann Schillinger
SS Erik Stoll

Villanova Wildcats
Offense
QB Chris Whitney
RB Aaron Ball
WR Matt Szczur
WR Brandyn Harvey
WR Norman White
TE Chris Farmer
LT Ben Ijalana
LG Brant Clouser
C Brian Brannigan
RG Dan Shirey
RT Jonathan Bugli

Defense
DE Tim Kukuka
NT Phil Matusz
DE Marlon Johnson
LB Osayi Osunde
LB Marquis Kirkland
LB Terence Thomas
CB James Pitts
CB Eric Loper
FS Ross Ventrone
WS Fred Maldonado
SS John Dempsey

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 06:43 PM
Should be a great game to showcase FCS. Go Nova!

Grizaholic17
December 18th, 2009, 06:44 PM
ESPN2 College Football live dude picked Villanova because they've been more battle tested...I hope he's wrong!!!

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 06:51 PM
I'm interested to see how the Griz perform outside of Missoula this year, I must admit the home field advantage they have in the playoffs over the years makes me $#%$^& but I feel that way about other teams that have really strong fanbases. OK its jealously, UNH will never have that kind of fanbase. Still those conditions up there, they always have the advantage before the coin is flipped.

BEAR
December 18th, 2009, 06:59 PM
I'm interested to see how the Griz perform outside of Missoula this year, I must admit the home field advantage they have in the playoffs over the years makes me $#%$^& but I feel that way about other teams that have really strong fanbases. OK its jealously, UNH will never have that kind of fanbase. Still those conditions up there, they always have the advantage before the coin is flipped.

Heck, half of the FBS teams don't have that kind of fanbase or homefield advantage..xlolx

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:04 PM
Not a huge crowd tonight.

Go...gate
December 18th, 2009, 07:06 PM
This game will be good, and it certainly brings back good memories, even though Colgate lost badly to a better team in its 2003 appearance.

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:07 PM
Villanova needs to settle down.

AppIAA
December 18th, 2009, 07:07 PM
Is it loud and cold there? xpeacex

Torgo
December 18th, 2009, 07:07 PM
Wow. Brilliant play.

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:09 PM
Montana gets a stop on the first drive.

I have great memories of my GSU Eagles being there regularly there 9-13 years ago.

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 07:09 PM
Wow. Brilliant play.

What time is it in Denmark? 4 AM?

I Bleed Purple
December 18th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Poor tackling there.

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Montana moving it well vs. Nova's defense right now.

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 07:13 PM
Montana got away with a push on that Villanova lineman

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:14 PM
Montana throwing it on every play.

paward
December 18th, 2009, 07:14 PM
That throwback to the QB looks familiar.

AppIAA
December 18th, 2009, 07:14 PM
Montana got away with a push on that Villanova lineman

Is this flag football? since when can you not push a lineman?

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:15 PM
Villanova got a huge break there.

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 07:15 PM
Yeah no points

paward
December 18th, 2009, 07:16 PM
What in the bejesus was that?

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:16 PM
The holder screwed up that field goal attempt. Montana drives all the way down teh field and gets nothing.

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 07:17 PM
Is this flag football? since when can you not push a lineman?

push in the back from behind? xrulesx Not in any football league I know.....

AppIAA
December 18th, 2009, 07:17 PM
The holder screwed up that field goal attempt. Montana drives all the way down teh field and gets nothing.

Sounds like exactly what happened to the team they played last week...

Saint3333
December 18th, 2009, 07:17 PM
Sambarno thanks for the drop after the amazing catch vs. App last week, oh this is painful.

Henny
December 18th, 2009, 07:17 PM
The Griz did everything but score on that drive. Dont give 'Nove that opportunity

ur2k
December 18th, 2009, 07:18 PM
Is it me or does Montana's pants not match the rest of the uni - they just look weird.

Zangzigger
December 18th, 2009, 07:18 PM
Was there a spread in Vegas or on a web site for this game?

Torgo
December 18th, 2009, 07:18 PM
What time is it in Denmark? 4 AM?

2:18 now.


This is killing me. xcoffeex

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:19 PM
Szczur is the biggest thread Nova has.

hoseman
December 18th, 2009, 07:19 PM
Montana OL isn't getting a big push like last week. This is going to be a great game

TheValleyRaider
December 18th, 2009, 07:19 PM
Announcers are pretty excitable

Skjellyfetti
December 18th, 2009, 07:20 PM
Montana OL isn't getting a big push like last week. This is going to be a great game

Montana only tried to run it once on that drive though.

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:20 PM
Big run right there.

Torgo
December 18th, 2009, 07:20 PM
Is it me or does Montana's pants not match the rest of the uni - they just look weird.

They don't. Its a weird combo, the maroon pants are usually worn on the road...and are much nicer looking.


This is the second week in a row the lesser used combo has been used (last week all-maroon instead of maroon & silver).

Henny
December 18th, 2009, 07:20 PM
As I said They are dangerous!

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 07:21 PM
2:18 now.


This is killing me. xcoffeex

Keep drinking that coffee

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:22 PM
I thnk we will have a game that goes to the last 5 minutes.

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 07:23 PM
Good coverage by the Grizz there, lets see if Nova can hit a FG

Henny
December 18th, 2009, 07:23 PM
easy FG

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:26 PM
Important for Montana to respond here.

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:28 PM
Montana's plan seems to be to move it with short passes.

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 07:30 PM
Nice run

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 07:31 PM
nice pass TD

AppIAA
December 18th, 2009, 07:31 PM
Wow, horrible decision to pass that there.. looked like he was covered like glue, but it some how got through

Torgo
December 18th, 2009, 07:33 PM
WHOOOOO!

paward
December 18th, 2009, 07:33 PM
Soft coverage in the secondary.

Stubbins
December 18th, 2009, 07:34 PM
nova's d is awesome

DX Man
December 18th, 2009, 07:34 PM
Important for Montana to respond here.



and they didxthumbsupx

Henny
December 18th, 2009, 07:34 PM
Shocking by 'Nova

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:37 PM
Nothing for Nova on that series. Punting back to Montana.

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 07:37 PM
that was a dying duck pass there....

paward
December 18th, 2009, 07:39 PM
Whitney needs to settle down a bit. He is a player but a rough start here.

Stubbins
December 18th, 2009, 07:39 PM
moving the ball well, we need another td here!! damn missed field goal!!

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:40 PM
Nova needs to get a stop here.

Not really pulling for either team tonight-- just want a good game.

TheValleyRaider
December 18th, 2009, 07:41 PM
Montana 7
Villanova 3
End 1st

Torgo
December 18th, 2009, 07:45 PM
I'm rather shocked at how much Montana is throwing early, but its working so far.

Baller1
December 18th, 2009, 07:45 PM
Checkin in.... just got out of a MASSIVE traffic jam on the 101 in Phoenix...... Griz up!! looking good.... lets go boys... more points!!!

yosef1969
December 18th, 2009, 07:45 PM
End of 1st Montana looks to be the better team at this point, said the same thing about W&M last week though. Still a lot of game left.

Weather looks to be miserable. FWIW weather in Frisco, TX tonight is considerably better: 48 degrees and fair.

yosef1969
December 18th, 2009, 07:47 PM
Nova gets it's first stop of the game.

Baller1
December 18th, 2009, 07:48 PM
WOW big play for Novas Dline.... lets go Griz Defense.... make a play!!!

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:48 PM
Pitiful punt by Montana

yosef1969
December 18th, 2009, 07:50 PM
big play through the air for Nova. How did he get that open?

Baller1
December 18th, 2009, 07:50 PM
that was ugly.... seemed like that ball was up there for an hour

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:50 PM
The rain is just pouring down. Just talked to someone at the game and he told me it was miserable there tonight.

yosef1969
December 18th, 2009, 07:51 PM
INT Montana!

ForShizzleGrizzle
December 18th, 2009, 07:51 PM
Thats right. Four more picks tonight!!!!

Baller1
December 18th, 2009, 07:51 PM
LOL Lebsock wanted to run so bad..... heady play to take a knee!!!! way to make a play!!

Torgo
December 18th, 2009, 07:52 PM
What in the Sam Hill was that pass?

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 07:53 PM
That was awful Whitney. WTF was that? Why didn't you float one like that last week?

Baller1
December 18th, 2009, 07:53 PM
Nova is good... no disrespect here.... but there quarterback is AWFUL..... maybe he will subtle down... but so far its not lookin good for him..... Griz need to answer with points on this drive

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:53 PM
Big mistake there by Nova. Both teams making mistakes. I look for more fumbles and interceptions as the rain gets worse.

GRIZCLAW
December 18th, 2009, 07:53 PM
The Griz need to take advantage of the turnover and put BIG points on the board. Then the D has gotta spy on Ceaser...

Bogus Megapardus
December 18th, 2009, 07:54 PM
Long night for Whitney.

yosef1969
December 18th, 2009, 07:54 PM
What in the Sam Hill was that pass?

Think he wanted to go with the underneath route and just over threw it.

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 07:54 PM
Montana is gonna run away with this one.

Torgo
December 18th, 2009, 07:55 PM
Think he wanted to go with the underneath route and just over threw it.

Slipped out of his hand in the rain. That's rough.

Baller1
December 18th, 2009, 07:55 PM
NOVAS D is scary fast

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 07:56 PM
Big play Grizz

yosef1969
December 18th, 2009, 07:56 PM
Big play Mariani

Baller1
December 18th, 2009, 07:56 PM
NOVAS D is scary fast

and so is MM80 WOW!!

GRIZCLAW
December 18th, 2009, 07:56 PM
Mariana is MONEY...down to the 15. Yards after catch...

ForShizzleGrizzle
December 18th, 2009, 07:56 PM
Man that slow non athletic Montana kids is making those guys look bad

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:56 PM
Another big pass play for Montana

Skjellyfetti
December 18th, 2009, 07:57 PM
It looks like Chase Reynolds is covered in mud... how is that possible?

I Bleed Purple
December 18th, 2009, 07:57 PM
Nova's D may be fast, but they're not tackling well.

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:57 PM
Message for Nova-- Someone better cover Mariania better

Torgo
December 18th, 2009, 07:57 PM
Marc Mariani is some sort of god. At least some sort of berserker.

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 07:57 PM
welp, this one looks about like i thought it would.....xcoffeex......dangit, i knew last week was the national championship gamexnonono2xxnonono2x

UNHWildCats
December 18th, 2009, 07:58 PM
wats the score?

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 07:59 PM
Montana is having no problem moving the ball.

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 07:59 PM
About to be 14-3 Montana.

rcny46
December 18th, 2009, 07:59 PM
The Villanova defense just looks bad.Don't quite understand it.Hopefully that O line of UM won't wear them down.BTW is there a bigger O line anywhere in division 1?

Stubbins
December 18th, 2009, 07:59 PM
this may be an old fashioned ass whooping...might be the worst team on our schedule.

yosef1969
December 18th, 2009, 08:00 PM
It looks like Chase Reynolds is covered in mud... how is that possible?

Suppose it's possible if you actually tackle him a couple of times.

GRIZCLAW
December 18th, 2009, 08:00 PM
For all those SELLE doubters, he's looking GOOD tonight. Mariani and Reynolds unbelieveable. So far so good, down to the 2..

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 08:00 PM
If Nova can hold Montana to a FG here it would be big.

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:00 PM
this may be an old fashioned ass whooping...might be the worst team on our schedule.

haha doubt that VERY seriouslyxlolx

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 08:00 PM
Nova didn't come to play tonight. Why couldn't that happen last week?

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 08:01 PM
TD Montana. 14-3 right now.

Nova better get the ball, go down and score or this one might get out of hand.

Skjellyfetti
December 18th, 2009, 08:01 PM
welp, this one looks about like i thought it would.....xcoffeex......dangit, i knew last week was the national championship gamexnonono2xxnonono2x

Too early. Seems like the team losing at halftime has been winning the big playoff games this year.

Nova over William and Mary (down 10-0 at halftime)
App over Richmond (down 14-7 at halftime)
Montana over App (down 10-7 at halftime)

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 08:01 PM
14-3 Montana

TokyoGriz
December 18th, 2009, 08:01 PM
YA TD!!

Selle passing game on today . nova in trouble!xnodx

GRIZCLAW
December 18th, 2009, 08:01 PM
Zambrono makes it 14-3. Go Griz...KEEP IT GOING...Another great SELLZE pass.

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:02 PM
Nova didn't come to play tonight. Why couldn't that happen last week?

my thoughts: "why couldn't we have beaten montana and played this team tonightxmadx"

Baller1
December 18th, 2009, 08:02 PM
There might be another Mariani wearing #16..... true sophmore making HUGE plays!! great catch JABIN!!! those points were huge coming off that turnover.... now lets bear down and stop the run!

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:02 PM
Too early. Seems like the team losing at halftime has been winning the big playoff games this year.

Nova over William and Mary (down 10-0 at halftime)
App over Richmond (down 14-7 at halftime)
Montana over App (down 10-7 at halftime)

dont see it happeninxcoffeex

Stubbins
December 18th, 2009, 08:02 PM
Nova didn't come to play tonight. Why couldn't that happen last week?


has nothing to do with the competition?

yosef1969
December 18th, 2009, 08:03 PM
Nova needs to get Szczur more involved...

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 08:03 PM
Nova's overall poor secondary and lack of passing game is really hurting them tonight. Their running game/special teams has been so good during the season that they've been able to overcome the weakness in that area.

Got to hand it to the Grizz though, they're the best team this year, no doubt about it. I just hope Nova can keep it respectable.

If things get too out of hand, they might want to bring in Young. He's a much better pocket passer than Whitney is.

GRIZCLAW
December 18th, 2009, 08:04 PM
xthumbsupx
Nova didn't come to play tonight. Why couldn't that happen last week?

Or, just maybe, the GRIZ are better than you give them credit for? I'm just saying...Every team the Griz beat don't bring their game, the Griz just get lucky, it's never that THEY (Griz) are good...

ForShizzleGrizzle
December 18th, 2009, 08:04 PM
This is the pro bowl the super bowl was last week in Missoula :)

yosef1969
December 18th, 2009, 08:04 PM
has nothing to do with the competition?

Was thinking the same thing.

TokyoGriz
December 18th, 2009, 08:04 PM
has nothing to do with the competition?

Nova is CAA the competition is irrelavant. If they lose its only cause they didnt bother to play well enough.

Szcar is a heck of a player though for sure. Hes a stud.

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:04 PM
Nova needs to get Szczur more involved...

Nova needs to ask God to get more involved in order to win this one i think. The griz are dominating

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:06 PM
xthumbsupx

Or, just maybe, the GRIZ are better than you give them credit for? I'm just saying...Every team the Griz beat don't bring their game, the Griz just get lucky, it's never that THEY (Griz) are good...

as a matter of fact, irrelevant as it may be, when you drop as many balls as app did last week, then you have, by definition, not completely brought your game. thats not saying montana wasnt the better team tho. they might have been. id say about even. I SOOOOO WISH THE GRIZ AND MOUNTAINEERS WERE PLAYING TONIGHT!xbawlingx

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 08:06 PM
Option football. I remember a day long ago in Chattanooga when Montana really struggled to stop the option and a man named Peterson.

yosef1969
December 18th, 2009, 08:07 PM
xthumbsupx

Or, just maybe, the GRIZ are better than you give them credit for? I'm just saying...Every team the Griz beat don't bring their game, the Griz just get lucky, it's never that THEY (Griz) are good...

I'm a Griz believer, but I was before last week too. Griz were better than ASU this year by just enough but better none the less.

Baller1
December 18th, 2009, 08:08 PM
good to see the DLine get a good push.... that subtle ball fake by the QB on that option was sick.... made TJ look silly

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:08 PM
Option football. I remember a day long ago in Chattanooga when Montana really struggled to stop the option and a man named Peterson.

man you got a good memory to remember something so long ago

I KID, I KIDxlolxxthumbsupx

Baller1
December 18th, 2009, 08:08 PM
how do u let him get that open??? C'mon Stoll!!!

paward
December 18th, 2009, 08:08 PM
Nice catch

Henny
December 18th, 2009, 08:09 PM
Does everyone understand now

ForShizzleGrizzle
December 18th, 2009, 08:09 PM
he keeps hangin those up there will be more than one pick tonight

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 08:09 PM
Maybe we are back on the right track to get back to Chattanooga.

Back to the game-- Nova needed that TD in a big way.

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 08:09 PM
I think W&M's defense matches up better against Montana than 'Nova. Their secondary is weak and we've been watching Montana exploit that big time.

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 08:10 PM
TD Nova.......don't count your chickens Grizz fans

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:10 PM
can the defense stop them? is there life?

ForShizzleGrizzle
December 18th, 2009, 08:10 PM
now he is limping so that leaves the door open for the excuses after the game.

Baller1
December 18th, 2009, 08:10 PM
BIG answer for Nova right there..... lets go get some points before half Griz!!

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:10 PM
nevermind, i refuse to believe they can win this, after that

yosef1969
December 18th, 2009, 08:10 PM
Note to 'Nova AD: If Talley gets an FBS job offer, I'm available.

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 08:10 PM
Come on really? Miss the PAT? Just deflating.

TokyoGriz
December 18th, 2009, 08:10 PM
Szcar in the wildcat could see the run coming mile away.

Go griz lets get some more points!

Extra point no Good! xthumbsupx

Torgo
December 18th, 2009, 08:11 PM
Well, at least someone from Villanova showed up. Sczcur is a hell of a player.

DX Man
December 18th, 2009, 08:11 PM
Man did they ever need that TD!

That missed PAT just killed that momentum!

UMass922
December 18th, 2009, 08:11 PM
Huge response by Villanova. Now they need to play some D.

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 08:12 PM
he keeps hangin those up there will be more than one pick tonight

No, if Montana wins this game they are the best team in the country hands down. No excuses. But I hope 'Nova picks it up and plays their best and gives them a run.

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 08:14 PM
Sorry quoted the wrong post. But I was responding to your limping excuses post Griz

Dblue
December 18th, 2009, 08:14 PM
this may be an old fashioned ass whooping...might be the worst team on our schedule.

I don't think so, lotta game left. The Griz D does look good in the red zone though. We'll see what happens in the second half.

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:15 PM
No, if Montana wins this game they are the best team in the country hands down. No excuses. But I hope 'Nova picks it up and plays their best and gives them a run.

if nova wins, are they the best team in the country? i mean......that is the playoff systems argument, right? to find the true best team......food for thought.

personally, i dont see nova as the best team in the united states at our level, regardless of whether they win or not.

GRIZCLAW
December 18th, 2009, 08:16 PM
as a matter of fact, irrelevant as it may be, when you drop as many balls as app did last week, then you have, by definition, not completely brought your game. thats not saying montana wasnt the better team tho. they might have been. id say about even. I SOOOOO WISH THE GRIZ AND MOUNTAINEERS WERE PLAYING TONIGHT!xbawlingx

Hey, props to App State, take nothing away from them. Like has been said, last week may have been our Championship. Montana fans LOVE App State, so don't take offense. We may not have been the best team, but we are in the NC game...and doing OK so far... The Griz are doing something right. Would you agree with that?xthumbsupx

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 08:16 PM
I'm honestly confused. I mean, the zone defense isn't working for Nova. What do they have to lose by playing tight bump and run. Anything?

TokyoGriz
December 18th, 2009, 08:16 PM
Mariani! xnodx

Keep rolling Selle!

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 08:16 PM
Note to 'Nova secondary. COVER MARIANI. Geez.

yosef1969
December 18th, 2009, 08:16 PM
ASU is going to miss Gilbert. It's obvious to me now that it was quite a feat to contain Mariani

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 08:16 PM
Montana moving the ball again.

GRIZCLAW
December 18th, 2009, 08:17 PM
#80 is #1.

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:17 PM
Hey, props to App State, take nothing away from them. Like has been said, last week may have been our Championship. Montana fans LOVE App State, so don't take offense. We may not have been the best team, but we are in the NC game...and doing OK so far... The Griz are doing something right. Would you agree with that?xthumbsupx

well SH** yea id agree with that. im a closet griz fan, if you cant tell by my posts in this threadxthumbsupx i think our two teams are about the same talent wise, so i pull for the Griz every time!

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 08:18 PM
This is a good competitive game-- that is all I asked for.

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 08:18 PM
if nova wins, are they the best team in the country? i mean......that is the playoff systems argument, right? to find the true best team......food for thought.

personally, i dont see nova as the best team in the united states at our level, regardless of whether they win or not.

Haha yeah I agree. I actually don't think 'Nova is better than W&M this year, but I'm a little biased. xnodx

And don't undersell Villanova. They aren't playing their best, to be honest. They came out flat against W&M and recovered all too nicely in the second half. I expect a close game.

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 08:18 PM
Nice stop for Nova there

Dblue
December 18th, 2009, 08:18 PM
......food for thought....

personally, i dont see nova as the best team in the united states at our level, regardless of whether they win or not.

Sounds like sour grapes to me xnonono2x

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:19 PM
well well well.....it's villanova.....

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 08:19 PM
if nova wins, are they the best team in the country? i mean......that is the playoff systems argument, right? to find the true best team......food for thought.

personally, i dont see nova as the best team in the united states at our level, regardless of whether they win or not.

I see your point, but unless every team plays each other during the season, we'll just never know. At some point, you have to win the games you're scheduled and move on.

ForShizzleGrizzle
December 18th, 2009, 08:19 PM
NICE

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 08:19 PM
Montana's punter takes forever to punt the ball-- don't be surprised to see a block before this one is over.

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 08:19 PM
I see your point, but unless every team plays each other during the season, we'll just never know. At some point, you have to win the games you're scheduled and move on.

Agreed. First time we've agreed on anything.

ForShizzleGrizzle
December 18th, 2009, 08:21 PM
Montana doesn't really start playing until the second half all year

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:21 PM
Sounds like sour grapes to me xnonono2x

it would only be "sour grapes" if we had played and lost to villanova at some point, no? i am truly not a unreasonable fan. ill admit when a team is better than the one im pulling for. i simply, truly believe that there are better teams in the nation, ...better teams in the conference possibly that nova when you look at the whole body of work throughout the year

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 08:22 PM
Agreed. First time we've agreed on anything.

Eh, I was a little fired up last week, really out of character. Good to see you in the thread supporting the CAA!

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 08:23 PM
All in all, not a bad score from a Nova perspective in a pretty one sided game so far. That interception by Whitney looks like it might come back to really haunt them.

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:23 PM
I see your point, but unless every team plays each other during the season, we'll just never know. At some point, you have to win the games you're scheduled and move on.

i know, it cant be round-robin. shame huh....its definately the closest method to accuracy, no doubt

TheValleyRaider
December 18th, 2009, 08:24 PM
Montana 14
Villanova 9
Halftime

yosef1969
December 18th, 2009, 08:24 PM
why not make him kick it and give Mariani a chance?

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 08:25 PM
The Grizz dominated that 1st half but its only a 5 point lead and really should be only a 1 point lead. Pretty close for one team looking so dominant. If there are any turnovers in the 2nd half it could swing the game big time either way.

RationalGriz
December 18th, 2009, 08:25 PM
Nova got the first, no chance to force the punt

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:25 PM
All in all, not a bad score from a Nova perspective in a pretty one sided game so far. That interception by Whitney looks like it might come back to really haunt them.

id say that missed PAT might have a haunting effect

Torgo
December 18th, 2009, 08:26 PM
Hard to imagine with how much it looks like Montana has outplayed Nova that this is an interception (and extra point conversion) away from being a Nova lead.

Nova has to feel good about that.


On the flip side, Montana usually doesn't start playing until the third quarter and we get the ball to start the half, which is good.

This one is going down to the wire.

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 08:26 PM
I thought Montana outplayed Nova in the first half, but Nova is only behind by 5.

It still is anybody's game in the 2nd half.

The weather reminds me of 2000 when we (GSU) played Montana for the championship. It was pouring rain and cold that day also.

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 08:27 PM
i know, it cant be round-robin. shame huh....its definately the closest method to accuracy, no doubt

I'm with you though, I think App State might be better than Nova this year. If they were to play head to head, I think they could beat Nova 7 out of 10 times.

The one thing that Nova has going for them is they are a very resilient team, and sometimes that's hard to measure. They aren't the most talented, but they're battle tested and know how to close out games. They are a lot like the Steelers of the last 7-8 years - they don't make it look pretty, but they find a way to get it done. And I can really understand why people who don't watch Nova that often can't understand why they have the record they do.

yosef1969
December 18th, 2009, 08:27 PM
Nova got the first, no chance to force the punt

Thanks my bad, got up to grab a beer and missed that. need to pay more attention.

TokyoGriz
December 18th, 2009, 08:28 PM
I predict Nova will make some changes to cover the pass bit more. Selle is on today. Reynolds will start getting more runs, Big Montana Oline wears down nova by late 3rd quarter.

Baller1
December 18th, 2009, 08:29 PM
I thought Montana outplayed Nova in the first half, but Nova is only behind by 5.

It still is anybody's game in the 2nd half.

The weather reminds me of 2000 when we (GSU) played Montana for the championship. It was pouring rain and cold that day also.

was just thinkin that same thing.... fortunately Adrian isn't on the field todayxwhistlex

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:30 PM
I'm with you though, I think App State might be better than Nova this year. If they were to play head to head, I think they could beat Nova 7 out of 10 times.

The one thing that Nova has going for them is they are a very resilient team, and sometimes that's hard to measure. They aren't the most talented, but they're battle tested and know how to close out games. They are a lot like the Steelers of the last 7-8 years - they don't make it look pretty, but they find a way to get it done. And I can really understand why people who don't watch Nova that often can't understand why they have the record they do.

hey hey hey, dont put words in my mouth nowxrolleyesx, i never said appalachian state was better than 'nova. i said there were teams i thought were probably better than 'nova.

if they win the game, they are national champions. that matters more than being the best team.

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 08:30 PM
I predict Nova will make some changes to cover the pass bit more. Selle is on today. Reynolds will start getting more runs, Big Montana Oline wears down nova by late 3rd quarter.

I generally agree with you that Nova has got to find a way to slow down the passing game, which will lead to more runs by Reynolds.

As far as wearing them down, I wouldn't be so sure about that. When they played Temple in week one, there was a big size disparity, and it didn't have a big effect in the game. It seems like so far they're doing a good job of containing the run, but I agree, let's see how things look in the 4th.

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 08:33 PM
Who gets the 2nd half kick?

KiddBrewer
December 18th, 2009, 08:33 PM
Who gets the 2nd half kick?

griz

Vidav
December 18th, 2009, 08:34 PM
Griz are moving the ball well but need to start finishing drives. Punts and FG attempts are not what we need. This game is going to stay close unless MT starts scoring touchdowns more.

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 08:34 PM
I will predict a Montana win at this point. I'll say 28 to 23.

Henny
December 18th, 2009, 08:34 PM
Basically Nova has Montana in their wheelhouse

ur2k
December 18th, 2009, 08:36 PM
I'm with you though, I think App State might be better than Nova this year. If they were to play head to head, I think they could beat Nova 7 out of 10 times.

The one thing that Nova has going for them is they are a very resilient team, and sometimes that's hard to measure. They aren't the most talented, but they're battle tested and know how to close out games. They are a lot like the Steelers of the last 7-8 years - they don't make it look pretty, but they find a way to get it done. And I can really understand why people who don't watch Nova that often can't understand why they have the record they do.

Don't sell Nova short, they are very very good. I expect Whitney to settle down in the second half anf for this to be a great finish.

paward
December 18th, 2009, 08:38 PM
Nova needs to put some pressure on Selle. You can limit the percentage of those passes with pressure. DL needs to step it up on second half.

Kadester
December 18th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Montana seems to have the better gameplan to this point. I would be shocked if they do not continue to expose the so called "sick V defense".

Montana, though, needs to get the special teams play figured out. It could mean the game.

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 08:40 PM
Nova needs to put some pressure on Selle. You can limit the percentage of those passes with pressure. DL needs to step it up on second half.

They're blitzing, that's for sure. They just aren't getting there. You've got to give the Grizz line a lot of credit.

silvertipgriz
December 18th, 2009, 08:40 PM
anyone have 1 half stats yet?

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 08:41 PM
Montana seems to have the better gameplan to this point. I would be shocked if they do not continue to expose the so called "sick V defense".

Montana, though, needs to get the special teams play figured out. It could mean the game.

I think when people were touting Nova's defense, it was really their front 7. They're secondary philosophy seems to be more of a bend but don't break defense.

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 08:42 PM
Don't sell Nova short, they are very very good. I expect Whitney to settle down in the second half anf for this to be a great finish.

I hope you're right. Honestly, Whitney (outside of his running) hasn't been very good this year. I feel he was better last year, and his passing game has taken a step back this year. Brandon Harvey is a really nice WR, but it's a shame he's lost in this offense.

feb18blacksunday
December 18th, 2009, 08:43 PM
I'd like to see Montana get the run game goin with Reynolds. Use those huge lineman to wear down the 'Nova defense.

ForShizzleGrizzle
December 18th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Marc is doing really well but Chase is averaging over 4 per carry right now and with how this o line takes over in the 4th I would not be suprised if 100 yrd game is in the cards

ForShizzleGrizzle
December 18th, 2009, 08:45 PM
Take one to the HOUSE peter

Henny
December 18th, 2009, 08:45 PM
so far they have played the FIRST HALF , this is what I'm talking about with Nova.

charliej
December 18th, 2009, 08:46 PM
anyone have 1 half stats yet?
I know Selle has connected for too many out of alot, for way too many yards... He looks good.xsmhx

Whitney needs to calm down. He's better than this.

Still a half to play tho,Nova's been down before.xthumbsupx

ForShizzleGrizzle
December 18th, 2009, 08:46 PM
Ya but NOVA is playing a second half team. Period end of story

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 08:49 PM
Wow, big 3rd down stop for Nova there. Nice way for them to start the half.

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 08:49 PM
3 and out for the Grizz

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 08:51 PM
Don't want to get too off topic, but it seems like I've seen a lot of teams implement a "soccer style" punting approach this year. Anyone think this will catch on in the NFL? I think it's not a bad strategy, I don't see too many guys wanting to risk a muff trying to catch one of those bouncers.

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 08:52 PM
32 for the Grizz just got jacked up......... nice run Nova

TheValleyRaider
December 18th, 2009, 08:52 PM
anyone have 1 half stats yet?

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=293520222

Stats have already updated from the start of the 2nd half, but it's something

Total Yards: Montana 302-241
Passing Yards: Montana 253-82
Rushing Yards: Villanova 159-49

Penalties: Montana 1-10, Villanova 1-5

Turnovers: Montana 0, Villanova 1

charliej
December 18th, 2009, 08:52 PM
Dang!...Big hit by Harvey!

Stubbins
December 18th, 2009, 08:53 PM
I'd like to see Montana get the run game goin with Reynolds. Use those huge lineman to wear down the 'Nova defense.

nope...gotta throw the ball the whole game

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 08:54 PM
Nice drive Nova's putting together

TokyoGriz
December 18th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Yep Nova rolling here.

Lets see a TO Griz!

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 08:55 PM
This is shaping up to go down to the last few minutes.

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 08:58 PM
That guy is ridiculous

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 08:58 PM
Whitney threaded the needle there......Nova looking good

TokyoGriz
December 18th, 2009, 08:58 PM
Great pass whitney! :(

Cmon griz hold em!

GRIZCLAW
December 18th, 2009, 08:59 PM
MONTANA Swiss cheese defense...no sense of urgency. Secondary, where'd you go???

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 08:59 PM
ceazur is a heck of a player

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 08:59 PM
Nova is doing their best trying to self-destruct on this drive. Let's see if they can convert.

ForShizzleGrizzle
December 18th, 2009, 08:59 PM
is this game in Missoula with all these false starts

ForShizzleGrizzle
December 18th, 2009, 09:00 PM
big play right here!!!

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 09:00 PM
I thought Montana was a second half team?

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 09:00 PM
Nice redemption for Chris Farmer with the TD catch.

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 09:01 PM
Nova scores. Montana has been here before and fallen short. We will see if they respond.

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 09:01 PM
Wow no Grizz D there......Nova takes the lead again, remember it started 3-0

charliej
December 18th, 2009, 09:01 PM
See...told you he was better than that. :D

Philliesfan980
December 18th, 2009, 09:02 PM
I know it's still relatively early in the game, but do you go for 2 in that situation to try and make it a 3 point game? Especially with the momentum you gained from that drive.

TokyoGriz
December 18th, 2009, 09:02 PM
Need a nice long scoring drive here.

Go Griz!

GRIZCLAW
December 18th, 2009, 09:02 PM
Perhaps a little too much celebrating by the Griz?? Where was the defense in the end zone? Who blew the coverage, 32? So much for dominating the first half... Hope we get the message that Nova isn't going to lay down...

ForShizzleGrizzle
December 18th, 2009, 09:02 PM
THey are

Baller1
December 18th, 2009, 09:02 PM
heckuva drive for Nova right here

Stubbins
December 18th, 2009, 09:03 PM
I thought Montana was a second half team?

depends on if bobby wants to outcoach everyone or just throw the ball...nova's defense sucks against the pass, but we are gonna run the ball with a fu{king qb sneak?

BEAR
December 18th, 2009, 09:04 PM
Nova QB only has 5 INTs this year...quality....one in the rain today. He apparently adjusted his throwing methods to adapt to the rain.

TokyoGriz
December 18th, 2009, 09:05 PM
Sombrano holding his knee there after the runback? Not good. xsmhx

Baller1
December 18th, 2009, 09:05 PM
Anybody else see Jabin Sambrano grabbing his knee after that return??? Yikes!! hope he's ok

GRIZCLAW
December 18th, 2009, 09:05 PM
3 false starts and they still score? Paulson better nut it up, in a hurry. Why do I get a sickening feeling in my stomache? Now, what will our OC do? Run, Run pass? Why did we run Selle on 3rd down? No passes to Marini so far? Ride the horse that brought you, Griz.

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 09:06 PM
Both of these teams have moved the ball well tonight. I am partial to a team that runs the ball better and right now that would be Nova.

Big, big drive coming up for Montana.

Henny
December 18th, 2009, 09:06 PM
go to the other thread !

BEAR
December 18th, 2009, 09:07 PM
2 threads on the same game? Why has CSN started a seperate thread? xconfusedx

Dblue
December 18th, 2009, 09:07 PM
Anybody else see Jabin Sambrano grabbing his knee after that return??? Yikes!! hope he's ok

Maybe they can cast his knee up like the Nova DE had his thumb casted. xrotatehx

ForShizzleGrizzle
December 18th, 2009, 09:08 PM
I think thats the season avg. that nova gives up right there

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 09:08 PM
This thread has more posts and more people. Tell them to come here.

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 09:08 PM
Here comes Montana.

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 09:08 PM
This is a HUGE possession. Montana needs points.

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 09:09 PM
Stay on this thread.

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 18th, 2009, 09:10 PM
Just got home and turned on the game. It's sad to see such a poor crowd. It's not a good reflection of the FCS football. This is the divisions showcase event.

Hopefully the Griz can pull this one out!

BEAR
December 18th, 2009, 09:10 PM
2 threads of the same game just makes it look like CSN is being typical CSN...c'mon folks...one thread will do. xthumbsupx

paward
December 18th, 2009, 09:10 PM
Third quarter has less than 3 mins

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 09:11 PM
Yeah I'm sick of CSN.

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 09:11 PM
Now Montana is trying to run Reynolds a lot more.

Whoever has the ball last may win this one.

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 09:12 PM
Mean looking block on that one.

wapiti
December 18th, 2009, 09:12 PM
Sounds like a decent game. keep the posts coming, I do not have espn.

dwtime
December 18th, 2009, 09:12 PM
Sacked, nice play Nova D

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 09:13 PM
HUGE sack. Great penetration by Nova on that

Tribe07
December 18th, 2009, 09:13 PM
But terrible field position for the Wildcats

Stubbins
December 18th, 2009, 09:13 PM
Bobby Ball!!! just throw the ball on first down please...please oh pretty please!

GSU Eagle
December 18th, 2009, 09:13 PM
Nova got a stop there. Nova up 16-14 with the ball on their own 5 almost at end of 3rd quatert.