Final Schedule Strength from ncaa.org

[jwfgeol]

This is the final strength of schedule rankings based on opponents' win-loss records only. At least 9 inter-division games must have been played (from ncaa.org (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/Internet/toughest%20schedule/iaa_9games_cumm.pdf)). I know there are many issues with just using win-loss records, and the deeper a team goes in the playoffs, the harder their schedule will be (obviously), but it's a start.


1. App State
2. Princeton
3. Furman
4. Dartmouth
5. Yale
6. Richmond
7. Northern Iowa
8. Hofstra
9. JMU
10. Harvard
11. Delaware St.
12. South Carolina St.
13. Wofford
14. Delaware
15. Georgia Southern
16. Southern Ill.
17. Maine
18. Lafayette
19. Western Kentucky
20. Montana

Other Playoff Teams
22. Colgate
26. Nicholls State
31. Texas State
38. New Hampshire
39. Eastern Washington
46. Cal Poly
67. Hampton
97. Eastern Ill.

[TexasTerror]

Those hurricanes probably messed with this a bit, but the SLC, I'm shocked that we didn't even have a top 25...

SLC
26. Nicholls State
31. Texas State
33. Sam Houston State
56. McNeese State
59. Northwestern State
64. Stephen F Austin
92. Southeastern Louisiana

[dbackjon]

Those hurricanes probably messed with this a bit, but the SLC, I'm shocked that we didn't even have a top 25...

SLC
26. Nicholls State
31. Texas State
33. Sam Houston State
56. McNeese State
59. Northwestern State
64. Stephen F Austin
92. Southeastern Louisiana

I wouldn't read to much into this - since they look at strictly win-losses, not who the wins/losses were against.

[*****]

Massey as of 12/3

1 Appalachian St
2 Portland St
3 Montana St
4 Citadel
5 CS Sacramento
6 Montana
7 W Carolina
8 Cal Poly SLO
9 Northwestern LA
10 UC Davis
11 Nicholls St
12 E Washington
13 N Iowa
14 Sam Houston St
15 Ga Southern
16 Indiana St
17 S Utah
18 McNeese St
19 Wofford
20 N Arizona
21 W Kentucky
22 Texas St
23 S Illinois
24 Furman
25 Chattanooga

[JohnStOnge]

Kind of wierd that UNI could go through a very tough I-AA conference, play Iowa, and go through four playoff games and not have a schedule that's rated a little higher.

No "weirdness" about App State being at #1 though. Kansas plus LSU plus two playoff teams in conference play then another four playoff teams in the tournament.

[Tod]

Massey as of 12/3

1 Appalachian St
2 Portland St
3 Montana St
4 Citadel
5 CS Sacramento
6 Montana
7 W Carolina
8 Cal Poly SLO
9 Northwestern LA
10 UC Davis
11 Nicholls St
12 E Washington
13 N Iowa
14 Sam Houston St
15 Ga Southern
16 Indiana St
17 S Utah
18 McNeese St
19 Wofford
20 N Arizona
21 W Kentucky
22 Texas St
23 S Illinois
24 Furman
25 Chattanooga

I've said before that not only is the Big Sky a tough conference, but that those weak OOC schedules make it easier for some teams to get 7 DI wins. Notice that every team on here is from the Big Sky, Great West, SoCon, Gateway and Southland. Where's the A-10?

By the way, I put Cal-Poly in bold just because they played so many Big Sky teams. That and the tough Great West is why they're ranked so high.

Edit - I bet Weber and Idaho State are not far down the list. I'll bet they're both top 30.

[blackfordpu]

Those hurricanes probably messed with this a bit, but the SLC, I'm shocked that we didn't even have a top 25...

SLC
26. Nicholls State
31. Texas State
33. Sam Houston State
56. McNeese State
59. Northwestern State
64. Stephen F Austin
92. Southeastern Louisiana

With Houston and Tech on the schedule and seeing as how the SLC is always competitive, I too am suprised that the Kats wern't ranked higher.

Nice new aviator ralph. :)

[SoCon48]

. Notice that every team on here is from the Big Sky, Great West, SoCon, Gateway and Southland. Where's the A-10?



Good question!!

[blukeys]

I've said before that not only is the Big Sky a tough conference, Where's the A-10?




And in the second round of the Playoffs, Where is the Big Sky?????


Home again watching everyone else!!!

[carney2]

Where is Youngstown State in all of this? (Not a legit question. More of a jab in their eyeball.)

[Tod]

And in the second round of the Playoffs, Where is the Big Sky?????


Home again watching everyone else!!!

Touche and good point. But, what happened to the vaunted A-10 once they got past those powerhouses Hampton and Colgate? Home again watching everyone else!!!

Give the 'Sky those teams and we'd have made it to the second round too. Obviously I can't prove that, but I'd bet a lot on it if it could be proven.

I'm just harkening (don't believe I've ever used that word before) back to the OOC schedule debates, and how some conferences hardly ever get the lesser teams of the playoffs. UNI and Cal Poly were much, much harder first round games than Hampton and Colgate.

However, had Montana and EWU met UNH and Richmond in the first round, admittedly those would have been tough, tough games. xprost2x

[JMU Duke Dog]

This is the final strength of schedule rankings based on opponents' win-loss records only. At least 9 inter-division games must have been played (from ncaa.org (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/Internet/toughest%20schedule/iaa_9games_cumm.pdf)). I know there are many issues with just using win-loss records, and the deeper a team goes in the playoffs, the harder their schedule will be (obviously), but it's a start.


1. App State
2. Princeton
3. Furman
4. Dartmouth
5. Yale
6. Richmond
7. Northern Iowa
8. Hofstra
9. JMU
10. Harvard
11. Delaware St.
12. South Carolina St.
13. Wofford
14. Delaware
15. Georgia Southern
16. Southern Ill.
17. Maine
18. Lafayette
19. Western Kentucky
20. Montana

Other Playoff Teams
22. Colgate
26. Nicholls State
31. Texas State
38. New Hampshire
39. Eastern Washington
46. Cal Poly
67. Hampton
97. Eastern Ill.

HERE IS THE ATLANTIC 10!

[dbackjon]

HERE IS THE ATLANTIC 10!

Which just proves the A-10 plays a lot of GOOD pansies..... :)

[GSUBass]

Massey as of 12/3

1 Appalachian St
2 Portland St
3 Montana St
4 Citadel
5 CS Sacramento
6 Montana
7 W Carolina
8 Cal Poly SLO
9 Northwestern LA
10 UC Davis
11 Nicholls St
12 E Washington
13 N Iowa
14 Sam Houston St
15 Ga Southern
16 Indiana St
17 S Utah
18 McNeese St
19 Wofford
20 N Arizona
21 W Kentucky
22 Texas St
23 S Illinois
24 Furman
25 Chattanooga

In the same vein as Tod...here's the Southern Conference teams.

7 out of 8 teams isn't too shabby.

[GGASU]

Massey as of 12/3

1 Appalachian St
2 Portland St
3 Montana St
4 Citadel
5 CS Sacramento
6 Montana
7 W Carolina
8 Cal Poly SLO
9 Northwestern LA
10 UC Davis
11 Nicholls St
12 E Washington
13 N Iowa
14 Sam Houston St
15 Ga Southern
16 Indiana St
17 S Utah
18 McNeese St
19 Wofford
20 N Arizona
21 W Kentucky
22 Texas St
23 S Illinois
24 Furman
25 Chattanooga

Never mind

[TypicalTribe]

Massey is useless for I-AA ratings, his system is obviously very flawed. Citadel #4, Western #7 ...New Hampshire not ranked LOL I am surprised Youngtown is not #1 in his system. Saragin is soooooooo much better at ranking I-AA.

These are schedule strength rankings, I believe.

[dbackjon]

Massey is useless for I-AA ratings, his system is obviously very flawed. Citadel #4, Western #7 ...New Hampshire not ranked LOL I am surprised Youngtown is not #1 in his system. Saragin is soooooooo much better at ranking I-AA.
You realize we are talking schedule strength, correct?

That is why El Cid is so high -- because they have to play ASU, GSU, etc....

[Saint3333]

I believe ASU was #1 before the playoffs as well.

[Pard4Life]

Wow, I am shocked Princeton is number two. I am proud to say Lafayette is the only team to play the top two teams. And for those questioning our playoff letgitamacy still... as will be the case likely next year if the time comes... we played three teams in the top 10, and four in the top 25. And next year, based on this list, we will still play three in the top 10, and four in the top 25... So that's roughly 40% of our games vs. top teams.

[jwfgeol]

Schedule strength from Sagarin (12/21)

1 Sam Houston State
2 Western Kentucky
3 Indiana State
4 Sacramento State
5 Nicholls State
6 Northern Iowa
7 Montana
8 Appalachian State
9 Portland State
10 Western Illinois
11 Southern Illinois
12 Northern Arizona
13 Eastern Washington
14 Missouri State
15 Weber State
16 UC Davis
17 Montana State
18 Texas State
19 Southern Utah
20 Idaho State

[Eagle_77]

Massey as of 12/3

1 Appalachian St
2 Portland St
3 Montana St
4 Citadel
5 CS Sacramento
6 Montana
7 W Carolina
8 Cal Poly SLO
9 Northwestern LA
10 UC Davis
11 Nicholls St
12 E Washington
13 N Iowa
14 Sam Houston St
15 Ga Southern
16 Indiana St
17 S Utah
18 McNeese St
19 Wofford
20 N Arizona
21 W Kentucky
22 Texas St
23 S Illinois
24 Furman
25 Chattanooga


Over the years I have heard from so many A-10 fans say that if they played a SoCon's team scheduled they would have more sucess in the playoffs. We hear about how the SoCon is so weak. Maybe if we didnt have 7 teams in the top 25 in S.O.S then we might have more teams in the playoffs. This just goes to show that all that talk is bull.

[ChickenMan]

We hear about how the SoCon is so weak. Maybe if we didnt have 7 teams in the top 25 in S.O.S then we might have more teams in the playoffs. This just goes to show that all that talk is bull.

Playoffs??? PLAYOFFS... :eek:

the combined records of the bottom half of the SoCon over the past six years...

Citadel... 21-45

UTC... 21-47

WCU... 30-35

Elon/VMI... 17-51


a combined....... 89-178

more teams in the playoffs... I think NOT... ;)

[bandl]

Over the years I have heard from so many A-10 fans say that if they played a SoCon's team scheduled they would have more sucess in the playoffs. We hear about how the SoCon is so weak. Maybe if we didnt have 7 teams in the top 25 in S.O.S then we might have more teams in the playoffs. This just goes to show that all that talk is bull.
This is based strictly on the won/loss record of said teams opponent's. It has nothing to do with the actual strength of said team.

[GrizzlyEdd]

Schedule strength from Sagarin (12/21)

1 Sam Houston State
2 Western Kentucky
3 Indiana State
4 Sacramento State
5 Nicholls State
6 Northern Iowa
7 Montana
8 Appalachian State
9 Portland State
10 Western Illinois
11 Southern Illinois
12 Northern Arizona
13 Eastern Washington
14 Missouri State
15 Weber State
16 UC Davis
17 Montana State
18 Texas State
19 Southern Utah
20 Idaho State

Wow... this list has every team in the Big Sky on it.... Just goes to show you that everyone has a poll of some sort and if you look around enough you can even put ELON as the #1 team in the nation.... So, guess all these polls are like politicians.... a bunch of hot air at best....:beerchug::hurray::nod: but ya gotta say it looks good for the Big Sky....xazzx

[kalm]

And in the second round of the Playoffs, Where is the Big Sky?????

What are you talking about, Poly made it to the second round :smiley_wi


Home again watching everyone else!!!

Yeah, just like last year when EWU knocked off #1 SIU and Montana stayed at home all the way to the 'chipper. :nod: :nod:

Go west! xprost2x