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DFW HOYA
August 19th, 2009, 07:39 PM
2010's Top National Universities: (OK, the first eight are a given...)

1. Harvard (Ivy)
1. Princeton (Ivy)
3. Yale (Ivy)
6. Pennsylvania (Ivy)
8. Columbia (Ivy)
8. Dartmouth (Ivy)
15. Cornell (Ivy)
16. Brown (Ivy)
23. Georgetown (Patriot)
33. William & Mary (CAA)
35. Lehigh (Patriot)
42. UC-Davis (Great West)
62. Fordham (Patriot)
68. Delaware (CAA)


2010's Top National Liberal Arts Colleges:
8. Davidson (Pioneer)
19. Colgate (Patriot)

HoyaMetanoia
August 19th, 2009, 07:49 PM
Georgetown will never be ranked at a level commensurate with its prestige due to low peer reviews (some Anti-Catholic sentiment in the academic world) and low endowment.

bostonspider
August 19th, 2009, 08:02 PM
National Liberal Arts Colleges...

Bucknell (30) Patriot
Richmond (33) CAA
Holy Cross (35) Patriot
Lafayette (35) Patriot
Furman (37) SoCon
Wofford (60) SoCon
VMI (71) Big South

SCPALADIN
August 19th, 2009, 08:09 PM
2010's Top National Universities: (OK, the first eight are a given...)

1. Harvard (Ivy)
1. Princeton (Ivy)
3. Yale (Ivy)
6. Pennsylvania (Ivy)
8. Columbia (Ivy)
8. Dartmouth (Ivy)
15. Cornell (Ivy)
16. Brown (Ivy)
23. Georgetown (Patriot)
33. William & Mary (CAA)
35. Lehigh (Patriot)
42. UC-Davis (Great West)
62. Fordham (Patriot)
68. Delaware (CAA)


2010's Top National Liberal Arts Colleges:
8. Davidson (Pioneer)
19. Colgate (Patriot)

2010's Top National Liberal Arts Colleges:
37. Furman

DFW HOYA
August 19th, 2009, 09:45 PM
Richmond is underrated at 33. People don't know how solid a program it's got.

PhoenixSupreme
August 19th, 2009, 10:15 PM
Richmond is underrated at 33. People don't know how solid a program it's got.

Definitely agree with you there.

ngineer
August 19th, 2009, 10:21 PM
National Liberal Arts Colleges...

Bucknell (30) Patriot
Richmond (33) CAA
Holy Cross (35) Patriot
Lafayette (35) Patriot
Furman (37) SoCon
Wofford (60) SoCon
VMI (71) Big South

Good example as to why the PL has pursued UR for membership. Hence the need for scholarships...;)

crusader11
August 19th, 2009, 10:39 PM
National Liberal Arts Colleges...

Bucknell (30) Patriot
Richmond (33) CAA
Holy Cross (35) Patriot
Lafayette (35) Patriot
Furman (37) SoCon
Wofford (60) SoCon
VMI (71) Big South

Please join the Patriot League when we go scholarship.

Husky Alum
August 20th, 2009, 01:13 AM
Northeastern is #80, for those keeping score at home. An improvement of 16 spots in one year.

Northeastern is also the #2 up and coming school in the country (behind fellow CAA colleague George Mason) - from what I've been told.

AppAlum2003
August 20th, 2009, 07:19 AM
I'm failing to see how this relates to Football....

Buzzcut
August 20th, 2009, 07:30 AM
Umm...where are all the OVC schools?

dgreco
August 20th, 2009, 07:31 AM
Top Masters universities:

North:

1. Villanova (1)
2. Marist (15)
3. Bryant (16)
4. Wagner (24)
5. Sacred Heart (30)

South:

1. Elon (2)
2. James Madison (4)
3. The Citadel (5)
4. Appalachian State (8)
5. Hampton (29)

Midwest:

1. Butler (2)
2. Drake (3)
3. Valparaiso (5)
4. Northern Iowa (16)
5. Missouri State (40)

West:

1. Texas State (38)
2. Texas Southern (64)
3. Montana State (80)
4. Southern Utah (84)
5. Stephan F. Austin (85)

Franks Tanks
August 20th, 2009, 07:58 AM
2010's Top National Universities: (OK, the first eight are a given...)

1. Harvard (Ivy)
1. Princeton (Ivy)
3. Yale (Ivy)
6. Pennsylvania (Ivy)
8. Columbia (Ivy)
8. Dartmouth (Ivy)
15. Cornell (Ivy)
16. Brown (Ivy)
23. Georgetown (Patriot)
33. William & Mary (CAA)
35. Lehigh (Patriot)
42. UC-Davis (Great West)
62. Fordham (Patriot)
68. Delaware (CAA)


2010's Top National Liberal Arts Colleges:
8. Davidson (Pioneer)
19. Colgate (Patriot)


Like how you go to 68 on the university level, but only 19 on the Liberal Arts.

In other news Richmond is really shooting up the rankings. I dont pay very close attention to the rankings, but for a while Richmond was ranked a bit behind the Lafayette/Holy Cross jumble (thise schools are always tied or just about), so I think people are understanding Richmond's quality.

Also when schools are ranked somewhat close they are or very simialr quality. Somewhat clsoe to me is 10-15 spots in either direction. Those schools really have rather small details seperating them-- I jus hate it when some is all my schools is ranked 4 spots higher--Ha

ur2k
August 20th, 2009, 08:09 AM
Like how you go to 68 on the university level, but only 19 on the Liberal Arts.

In other news Richmond is really shooting up the rankings. I dont pay very close attention to the rankings, but for a while Richmond was ranked a bit behind the Lafayette/Holy Cross jumble (thise schools are always tied or just about), so I think people are understanding Richmond's quality.

Also when schools are ranked somewhat close they are or very simialr quality. Somewhat clsoe to me is 10-15 spots in either direction. Those schools really have rather small details seperating them-- I jus hate it when some is all my schools is ranked 4 spots higher--Ha

We were ranked in the regional masters group for a long time (and dominated the southern group by being #1 for many years in a row) and have only been ranked in the national liberal arts colleges for the last few years (maybe 4) so I think we now may just be settling into our place on that list.

Franks Tanks
August 20th, 2009, 08:16 AM
We were ranked in the regional masters group for a long time (and dominated the southern group by being #1 for many years in a row) and have only been ranked in the national liberal arts colleges for the last few years (maybe 4) so I think we now may just be settling into our place on that list.

Ahh- I see, that makes sense

ur2k
August 20th, 2009, 08:31 AM
Ahh- I see, that makes sense

And looking at the list, we were actually ranked 30 this year - tied with Bucknell and Barnard.

http://rankings.usnews.com/best-colleges/liberal-arts-rankings/page+2

Getting back to football - I find it impressive how far our program has come in the last 7 years or so considering the academic environment that our players have to work within.

TTUEagles
August 20th, 2009, 10:08 AM
Here's something about an OVC school...Doesn't every university promote their ranking of some sort from some website or other ?

"COOKEVILLE, Tenn. (Aug. 20, 2009) —In addition to its eighth year being ranked as one of the Best Universities in the South by the publishers of U.S.News & World Report, this year Tennessee Tech University is the only Tennessee school ranked for students who graduate with the least amount of debt.

TTU earned the #34 spot among Best Universities in the South – Master’s category in the 2010 edition of America’s Best Colleges by U.S. News Media Group. TTU’s ranking is the top listing for a Tennessee public university in that category for the southern region. States included in the region are Tennessee, Kentucky, Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Arkansas.

TTU is also the only Tennessee university listed in U.S. News’ ranking of colleges whose students in the class of 2008 graduated with the lightest debt loads. The magazine used information like loans taken out by students from colleges, from private financial institutions, and from federal, state and local governments. According to the report, 60 percent of TTU’s students graduate debt free."

TheValleyRaider
August 20th, 2009, 11:53 AM
2010's Top National Liberal Arts Colleges:
3. Swarthmore

Chopp is moving up, certainly


19. Colgate
21. Hamilton

After that tie nonsense, it's good to see some order restored to the universe ;)

crunifan
August 20th, 2009, 12:34 PM
13th consecutive year UNI is the #2 rated Public School in the Midwest (Master's Universities).

poly51
August 20th, 2009, 01:14 PM
Top Masters universities:

North:

1. Villanova (1)
2. Marist (15)
3. Bryant (16)
4. Wagner (24)
5. Sacred Heart (30)

South:

1. Elon (2)
2. James Madison (4)
3. The Citadel (5)
4. Appalachian State (8)
5. Hampton (29)

Midwest:

1. Butler (2)
2. Drake (3)
3. Valparaiso (5)
4. Northern Iowa (16)
5. Missouri State (40)

West:

1. Texas State (38)
2. Texas Southern (64)
3. Montana State (80)
4. Southern Utah (84)
5. Stephan F. Austin (85)

You missed one.

West:

1. Cal Poly (6)
2. Texas State (38)
3. Texas Southern (64)
4. Montana State (80)
5. Southern Utah (84)
6. Stephan F. Austin (85)

Go...gate
August 20th, 2009, 01:55 PM
Chopp is moving up, certainly



After that tie nonsense, it's good to see some order restored to the universe ;)

Right. Wish she had stayed.

Go...gate
August 20th, 2009, 01:56 PM
Here's something about an OVC school...Doesn't every university promote their ranking of some sort from some website or other ?

"COOKEVILLE, Tenn. (Aug. 20, 2009) —In addition to its eighth year being ranked as one of the Best Universities in the South by the publishers of U.S.News & World Report, this year Tennessee Tech University is the only Tennessee school ranked for students who graduate with the least amount of debt.

TTU earned the #34 spot among Best Universities in the South – Master’s category in the 2010 edition of America’s Best Colleges by U.S. News Media Group. TTU’s ranking is the top listing for a Tennessee public university in that category for the southern region. States included in the region are Tennessee, Kentucky, Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Arkansas.

TTU is also the only Tennessee university listed in U.S. News’ ranking of colleges whose students in the class of 2008 graduated with the lightest debt loads. The magazine used information like loans taken out by students from colleges, from private financial institutions, and from federal, state and local governments. According to the report, 60 percent of TTU’s students graduate debt free."

In this day and age, that may be the most important thing of all! Congratulations!

dgreco
August 20th, 2009, 02:55 PM
You missed one.

West:

1. Cal Poly (6)
2. Texas State (38)
3. Texas Southern (64)
4. Montana State (80)
5. Southern Utah (84)
6. Stephan F. Austin (85)

Isn't Cal Poly on national universities? I thought that was Pomona or Ponoma?

coover
August 20th, 2009, 03:39 PM
Isn't Cal Poly on national universities? I thought that was Pomona or Ponoma?

No, Cal Poly is not considered a "National University". It is The Number 1 Regional Public University (offering Bachelor and Masters Degrees only) in the Western United States, and it has been for the last 17 years.

See http://calpolynews.calpoly.edu/news_releases/2009/August/US_News_2010.html

There is another California State University in Pomona, CA (near Los Angeles) with the name "California State Polytechnic University" that is frequently confused with "Californa Polytechnic State University" in San Luis Obispo. It, in fact, is a daughter University to the SLO school, but should not be confused with the SLO school. It, too, is highly rated, and is probably the number 2 (behind SLO) Regional Public University in California. The CP Pomona Broncos have no football program, but do very well in Division II sports.

Grizzaholic
August 20th, 2009, 03:49 PM
2010's Top National Universities: (OK, the first eight are a given...)

1. Harvard (Ivy)
1. Princeton (Ivy)
3. Yale (Ivy)
6. Pennsylvania (Ivy)
8. Columbia (Ivy)
8. Dartmouth (Ivy)
15. Cornell (Ivy)
16. Brown (Ivy)
23. Georgetown (Patriot)
33. William & Mary (CAA)
35. Lehigh (Patriot)
42. UC-Davis (Great West)
62. Fordham (Patriot)
68. Delaware (CAA)


2010's Top National Liberal Arts Colleges:
8. Davidson (Pioneer)
19. Colgate (Patriot)


Try posting a link next time for the rest of us.xpeacex

dgreco
August 20th, 2009, 03:52 PM
No, Cal Poly is not considered a "National University". It is The Number 1 Regional Public University (offering Bachelor and Masters Degrees only) in the Western United States, and it has been for the last 17 years.

See http://calpolynews.calpoly.edu/news_releases/2009/August/US_News_2010.html

There is another California State University in Pomona, CA (near Los Angeles) with the name "California State Polytechnic University" that is frequently confused with "Californa Polytechnic State University" in San Luis Obispo. It, in fact, is a daughter University to the SLO school, but should not be confused with the SLO school. It, too, is highly rated, and is probably the number 2 (behind SLO) Regional Public University in California. The CP Pomona Broncos have no football program, but do very well in Division II sports.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/masters-universities-west-rankings

idk how i went over that one when doing it. I must of in my head thought Cal Poly was a national university and just skimmed right over it.

lucchesicourt
August 20th, 2009, 06:01 PM
This is why I question the 4 year probationary period before you are elgible for the playoffs. UC Davis was more than academically qualified to have met the D1 standards, which everyone says was the reason for the probationary period, when we were D2. If a school is academically qualified to meet tha D1A standards, then they should not have the 4 year probationary period placed on a team. If a team meets all academic standards, facilities qualifications, and has played a qualifying schedule, then they should be allowed to compete if they finish with a playoff qualifying record. It should not matter whether a team just moved up or not.

UAalum72
August 20th, 2009, 06:23 PM
It's about the academic qualifying of the athletes, not of the university as a whole. And facilities may not be a part of it at all, other than having a playing field and arena.

R.A.
August 20th, 2009, 08:15 PM
Howard University
Tier I
Rank 96
Score 41

lucchesicourt
August 21st, 2009, 10:00 AM
UCD was a non schollie school, so entrance requirements were the same for ALL students as were academic requirements to stay in school. Athletes are treated the same as every other student, academically. So? Why the 4 year exemption, which is like death sentence penalty. UCD lost recruits, because they were not playoff elgible, and some students who were new to UCD's schollie program were left with only 1 year to try and win a NC (they all red shirted the first year). I am very impressed with NDSU, and feel they were cheated too, because they also are a good academic school.

Franks Tanks
August 21st, 2009, 10:23 AM
UCD was a non schollie school, so entrance requirements were the same for ALL students as were academic requirements to stay in school. Athletes are treated the same as every other student, academically. So? Why the 4 year exemption, which is like death sentence penalty. UCD lost recruits, because they were not playoff elgible, and some students who were new to UCD's schollie program were left with only 1 year to try and win a NC (they all red shirted the first year). I am very impressed with NDSU, and feel they were cheated too, because they also are a good academic school.

Its a blanket policy for all D-II schools. Simply put academic standards for D-II athletes are not the same as D-I athletes and that really is the reason. Despite the fact that Davis and NDSU may be quality schools, there is no gurantee that all players would have been D-I qualifiers (although that is highly unlikley in Davis's case)

lucchesicourt
August 21st, 2009, 07:11 PM
I can guarantee all UCD student athletes met way above the D1A standards. Are you trying to tell me that FSU student athlete is comparable to a UCD student athlete academically? I think not!!! UCD doesn't make exceptions for any of their athletes academically. That was one of the requirements the academic counsel wanted to assure that there would be no special treatment for student athletes when we went D1. UCD's standards have always been greater than the D1 requirements. As are ALL the rest of the UC's.
This making a blanket rule banning a school THAT IS moving up from any lower to upper division is ridiculous. If you meet the qualifications then you should be allowed to compete regardless of the institution. If you can demonstrate that you meet all the D1 requirements before the probationary period is complete, you should be allowed to do so. Anything else is unfair to the student athlete who is going through this probationary period. You have 4 years of undergraduate work, and then you are done. May I ask any of you former athletes? Would you have attended a school that was not qualified for the playoffs, over a school that was playoff qualified? Let's face it, sure UCD offers a superb education as its drawing card, but there are other schools in CA alone, that offer the same thing along with the NC opportunity (Cal Poly, CAL, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Sac Sate, Fresno State, and I may be missing some others)? Many student athletes would choose these schools over UCD for the opportunity to play for a championship, and UCD no matter what we did could not offer that. The same went for NDSU, who surely may have been the best team 2 years ago. We'll never know.

Ivytalk
August 21st, 2009, 07:53 PM
More US News Ivy League crank-yanking. Next!xcoffeex

RichH2
August 22nd, 2009, 01:27 PM
Ah, the arrogance of the elite. Well I guess we should leave the Ancient Eight to quibble over the top spots , while the rest of us try to get into the playoffs