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dgreco
July 29th, 2009, 10:18 PM
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5854/newnsu.jpg
slycat
July 29th, 2009, 10:22 PM
Way cooler
Ronbo
July 29th, 2009, 10:48 PM
Why does that look like a Japanese officer swinging the sword in front of the rising sun flag? xconfusedx
SUUTbird
July 29th, 2009, 10:52 PM
I agree, it looks way to much like a WWII Japanese propaganda poster. They need to make it look more American at least, get rid of the rising sun flag backround.
griz&beer
July 29th, 2009, 11:11 PM
That was what I was thinking. Jap thing
McNeese75
July 29th, 2009, 11:15 PM
Yep, replace the Rising Sun with the Stars and Bars xnodx
chrisattsu
July 29th, 2009, 11:19 PM
I didn't know M Bison had a sword!
ValleyChamp
July 29th, 2009, 11:28 PM
The Nicholas State Nazi Soldiers.
griz&beer
July 29th, 2009, 11:50 PM
M Bison LMAO.
lionsrking2
July 30th, 2009, 12:00 AM
Gotta be somebody's attempt at a joke.
Za-KEE-uS
July 30th, 2009, 02:39 AM
This is not a joke. I was at the meeting when they voted on different designs and I remember this one. When I voted for this one there was no flag in the background.
lionsrking2
July 30th, 2009, 03:37 AM
This is not a joke. I was at the meeting when they voted on different designs and I remember this one. When I voted for this one there was no flag in the background.
WOW
SUjagTILLiDIE
July 30th, 2009, 06:03 AM
Like it much better than the old mascot. Just remove the flag and it will be great.
Uncle Buck
July 30th, 2009, 06:21 AM
BONZAI!!!!!!!
dgreco
July 30th, 2009, 06:49 AM
i believe that background is just because it is on a media guide that should be coming out soon. But normally that would not be there.
I-AA Fan
July 30th, 2009, 07:23 AM
It is just people showing their age. Most people of college age would have no idea about the Kamikaze flag ...thus would see it as cool. (plus you can see the logo on the hat was modified). I guess it is time for me to purchase my cane. Kind of like that idiot company that is advertising KGB ...I am not that old & I clearly think of that as the Soviet intelligence and internal security agency. They just figure that only kids would text questions & they would not know what the KGB stands for. How many people here know what the Flying Dutchmen or the Engineers are?
NSUDemon98
July 30th, 2009, 07:41 AM
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5854/newnsu.jpg
Looks like a Nazi soldier....
BobcatJH
July 30th, 2009, 08:31 AM
Given the new Japanese soldier look, are they going to start running those plays Bill Parcells talked about?
TexasTerror
July 30th, 2009, 08:37 AM
Didn't Nicholls just go through a rebrand like two, three years ago?
http://www.cidoc.net/001798.html
89Hen
July 30th, 2009, 08:42 AM
http://www.owensvalleyhistory.com/manzanar10/japanese_war_poster.jpg
Uncle Buck
July 30th, 2009, 09:25 AM
It is just people showing their age. Most people of college age would have no idea about the Kamikaze flag ...thus would see it as cool. (plus you can see the logo on the hat was modified). I guess it is time for me to purchase my cane. Kind of like that idiot company that is advertising KGB ...I am not that old & I clearly think of that as the Soviet intelligence and internal security agency. They just figure that only kids would text questions & they would not know what the KGB stands for. How many people here know what the Flying Dutchmen or the Engineers are?
Ooh! Ooh! Pick me! Pick me! xhurrayx
SUUTbird
July 30th, 2009, 09:50 AM
New Nicholls State cheer....BONZAI!!!
Green Cookie Monster
July 30th, 2009, 10:43 AM
That guy is wearing what looks like a N. Korean communist hat. Does look awful Asian to me, Japanese Empire or not.
I-AA Fan
July 30th, 2009, 11:32 AM
Ooh! Ooh! Pick me! Pick me! xhurrayx
Yes Uncle Buck ...you are chosen! xreadx
If you know those, we can make it a bit more difficult. Also for all of you App fans. What is the difference between the App State name "Mountaineers", and WVU nickname "Mountaineers"? This has nothing to do with the schools or their locations either, I am referring to the names themselves.
Uncle Buck
July 30th, 2009, 11:42 AM
Yes Uncle Buck ...you are chosen! xreadx
If you know those, we can make it a bit more difficult. Also for all of you App fans. What is the difference between the App State name "Mountaineers", and WVU nickname "Mountaineers"? This has nothing to do with the schools or their locations either, I am referring to the names themselves.
Being an Engineer is better than being a Mountain Hawk.
Being a Flying Dutchman is better than being part of the Pride.
PRIDE NEVER DUTCH FOREVER!!!
Bull Fan
July 30th, 2009, 11:56 AM
Yes Uncle Buck ...you are chosen! xreadx
If you know those, we can make it a bit more difficult. Also for all of you App fans. What is the difference between the App State name "Mountaineers", and WVU nickname "Mountaineers"? This has nothing to do with the schools or their locations either, I am referring to the names themselves.
Probably not much difference, considering the area residents of both schools may have a tough time spelling it one way or another.
c15683
July 30th, 2009, 01:06 PM
TORA ! TORA ! TORA !
Or a Kim Jong Il "red square" poster.
I-AA Fan
July 30th, 2009, 03:13 PM
TORA ! TORA ! TORA !
Or a Kim Jong Il "red square" poster.
Ai****eru shuukyuu!!!
I-AA Fan
July 30th, 2009, 03:13 PM
TORA ! TORA ! TORA !
Or a Kim Jong Il "red square" poster.
Ai*****eru shuukyuu!!!
GeauxColonels
July 30th, 2009, 03:14 PM
Yes, another re-brand. I noticed that there were some new graphics in the 2009 baseball media guide posted on the athletics website. I actually liked what I saw of those graphics. That being said, I can't see the picture posted on here because of the stupid filters here at work. Would anyone be willing to e-mail the pic to me?
The school has been without an official mascot ever since Tillou the Colonel was "retired" by an idiot University President who went against a vote of the student body. From what I understand, the new Colonel was to be unveiled in April, but that was pushed back to August.
Again, if you're willing to e-mail me the image, PM me.
Thanks,
andy7171
July 30th, 2009, 04:37 PM
Being an Engineer is better than being a Mountain Hawk.
Being a Flying Dutchman is better than being part of the Pride.
PRIDE NEVER DUTCH FOREVER!!!
Not if your watch SpongeBob!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2452/3638402428_f3099779e2.jpg
..I love this guy and his little sock!
GeauxColonels
July 30th, 2009, 04:51 PM
Alright, just saw it...wow. Not sure why they chose to use that background. That's the font I had seen in the baseball media guide (http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/nist/graphics/auto/NICHBaseballMGCover09.jpg). Personally, I like the font. I would have been livid had they gotten rid of the "N" logo that we've all come to know and love. While i don't think the "Colonel" in the new picture is that great...it definitely could have been worse.
http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/nist/graphics/auto/NICHBaseballMGCover09.jpg
GeauxColonels
July 30th, 2009, 04:52 PM
This is not a joke. I was at the meeting when they voted on different designs and I remember this one. When I voted for this one there was no flag in the background.
Do you remember some of the other proposals? I would have loved to have seen the different designs that were pitched.
Za-KEE-uS
July 31st, 2009, 10:37 AM
They were all similar, the only differences was what was red, grey, or black, and the position the colonel was in. There was another with him standing with his hands on his waist. There were some minor differences in the uniform he's wearing....and one that kinda looked like a robot
http://www.nicholls.edu/news/2009/07/30/‘col-tillou’-returns-to-nicholls/
Blue42
July 31st, 2009, 05:16 PM
I'd remove the rising sun and place an outline of the state of Louisiana in the open space over the Colonels right shoulder with a star on the location of Thibodeaux.
Most people outside the Southland Conference don't know where the heck Nicholls State is. I always confuse it as being in Texas.
BEAR
July 31st, 2009, 08:52 PM
BONZAI!!!!!!!
xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx +1 to you! xlolxxlolxxlolx
Uncle Buck
August 1st, 2009, 03:20 PM
BONZAI!!!!!!!
xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx +1 to you! xlolxxlolxxlolx
Funny thing is, driving down to visit family in Virginia this morning, we pass the sign for Rising Sun in Maryland. I laughed, my wife asked what was so funny and I told her all about the pic that looked like something out of WWII propoganda. xlolx
GeauxColonels
August 2nd, 2009, 01:45 AM
I'd remove the rising sun and place an outline of the state of Louisiana in the open space over the Colonels right shoulder with a star on the location of Thibodeaux.
Most people outside the Southland Conference don't know where the heck Nicholls State is. I always confuse it as being in Texas.
The rising sun is just a background someone used on the media guide cover without thinking.
Here's another article regarding the new logo: http://www.houmatoday.com/article/20090731/SPORTS17/907319938?Title=Nicholls-State-revamps-mascot
Saint3333
August 2nd, 2009, 09:16 AM
So people found a Confederate looking solider offensive, but a Nazi solider is now PC, this seems like a step backwards.
GeauxColonels
August 7th, 2009, 10:35 AM
Here's a look at the full media guide cover:
http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/nist/graphics/auto/2009FootballMGCover.jpg
BEAR
August 7th, 2009, 10:44 AM
The rising sun is just a background someone used on the media guide cover without thinking.
Here's another article regarding the new logo: http://www.houmatoday.com/article/20090731/SPORTS17/907319938?Title=Nicholls-State-revamps-mascot
Without thinking? Wow....I would never have known....xlolx
Big Al
August 7th, 2009, 11:25 AM
BONZAI!!!!!!!
Bonsai? Are you saying their new mascot should be a tiny little tree?
Uncle Buck
August 7th, 2009, 11:31 AM
Bonsai? Are you saying their new mascot should be a tiny little tree?
No no friend, the Japanese Battle Cry. Bonzai!!! with a Z
Banzai
The Oxford Pocket Dictionary of Current English | 2009 | © The Oxford Pocket Dictionary of Current English 2009, originally published by Oxford University Press 2009. (Hide copyright information) Copyright
ban·zai / ˈbanˈzī/
• interj. a Japanese battle cry.
But those little tree's can certainly be intimidating.
UNHWildCats
August 7th, 2009, 12:05 PM
Here's a couple avatars of it.
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2632/nichollsfootball.png
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5018/nichollsfootball1.png
A not so good color copy off background
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1726/nobacknicholls.png
and a nice B & W that could be colorized by someone whos good with that.
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3249/nichsbw.png
In time decent color copies will be findable onlne.
AmsterBison
August 7th, 2009, 01:29 PM
Rejected:
http://dreamdogsart.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/19/chinese_propaganda_poster.jpg
Translation: Sword? What sword? I only bring you flowers. Like my hat?
Big Al
August 7th, 2009, 04:27 PM
But those little tree's can certainly be intimidating.
When I lived in Utah, I visited a bonsai nursery called Ben's House of Bonsai in Murray, UT. Beautiful trees. Unbelievable specimen for $1500 all the way down to $20 starters.
Ben was famous for giving you the stink-eye when you looked around and was known to reject sales if he didn't think you were up to the task of maintaining the tree in good health. Some of his most expensive trees required extensive interviewing and some he would sell but you couldn't take out of his nursery.
Loony guy but beautiful trees.
How's that for a thread hijack?
Uncle Buck
August 7th, 2009, 04:33 PM
When I lived in Utah, I visited a bonsai nursery called Ben's House of Bonsai in Murray, UT. Beautiful trees. Unbelievable specimen for $1500 all the way down to $20 starters.
Ben was famous for giving you the stink-eye when you looked around and was known to reject sales if he didn't think you were up to the task of maintaining the tree in good health. Some of his most expensive trees required extensive interviewing and some he would sell but you couldn't take out of his nursery.
Loony guy but beautiful trees.
How's that for a thread hijack?
That is hysterical, i just busted out laughing and my wife is looking at me like I am an idiot. This thread is too much! xlolx
UNHWildCats
August 7th, 2009, 09:59 PM
I missed a link earlier. Here is a nice color version no background.
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3668/nichollscolor.png
BEAR
August 7th, 2009, 11:29 PM
I prefer this colonel over the japanese version:
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs130.snc1/5571_135958572320_644122320_2912226_5683157_s.jpg
Frosty The Snowbuff
August 10th, 2009, 08:18 AM
I didn't know M Bison had a sword!
xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx
On the bright side....if they win.....they can officially say their opposition has been Psycho Crushed....
lionsrking2
August 10th, 2009, 01:18 PM
The bigger issue I see isn't just that it looks "nazi" or like a "japanese soldier," but that it's too dark, too realistic and too threatening for an athletic logo...one of the first rules of thumb when designing a logo or a mascot costume is to strike a happy medium between masculine/intimidating and child/fan friendly and this certainly doesn't do that IMO. If the image were more "cartoon" or caricature-like, it wouldn't be so bad, but it's a proportional, life-like drawing with a highly threatening posture. I can see why some would like it, but I can easily see how it would turn most people off. I can see it being a particular problem with younger kids and parents with younger kids, and when you're trying to reach a younger demographic, it certainly doesn't help if you scare some of the off.
89Hen
August 10th, 2009, 02:28 PM
The bigger issue I see isn't just that it looks "nazi" or like a "japanese soldier," but that it's too dark, too realistic and too threatening for an athletic logo
xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx
Za-KEE-uS
August 11th, 2009, 11:06 AM
Totally disagree, kids these days play videogames where they can shoot and blow up whatever they want. I think it's the older folks that want the mascots to be all friendly looking... Something that would probally be considered "gay" to younger kids. It's just a guy swinging a sword, it's not like there is blood on the tip or he's holding a head in his other hand.
89Hen
August 11th, 2009, 11:28 AM
I think it's the older folks that want the mascots to be all friendly looking...
Yes. The ones who buy tickets and donate to the school. The ones who bring their kids to the games. xpeacex
lionsrking2
August 11th, 2009, 12:52 PM
Totally disagree, kids these days play videogames where they can shoot and blow up whatever they want. I think it's the older folks that want the mascots to be all friendly looking... Something that would probally be considered "gay" to younger kids. It's just a guy swinging a sword, it's not like there is blood on the tip or he's holding a head in his other hand.
So as long as there's no blood, we're all cool huh?
catamount man
August 11th, 2009, 01:38 PM
Yes, another re-brand. I noticed that there were some new graphics in the 2009 baseball media guide posted on the athletics website. I actually liked what I saw of those graphics. That being said, I can't see the picture posted on here because of the stupid filters here at work. Would anyone be willing to e-mail the pic to me?
The school has been without an official mascot ever since Tillou the Colonel was "retired" by an idiot University President who went against a vote of the student body. From what I understand, the new Colonel was to be unveiled in April, but that was pushed back to August.
Again, if you're willing to e-mail me the image, PM me.
Thanks,
More liberal trash trying to snuff out the heritage of the South. Same thing happened with OLE MISS. What I love is over half of the state of Mississippi, BLACKS INCLUDED, proudly voted to keep the confederate battle flag on the state flag. smart folks! xthumbsupx
Za-KEE-uS
August 11th, 2009, 11:19 PM
Yes. The ones who buy tickets and donate to the school. The ones who bring their kids to the games. xpeacex
If those people want to support this school so much they wouldn't let a simple mascot upgrade change their opinions. And if our school's colors are red and silver, and the mascot is a colonel in uniform...of course he's gonna look like a nazi, its pretty much the same uniform. You guys are making assumptions about the new colonel just like people did with the old one.
TColonel
August 12th, 2009, 09:28 AM
Sorry to jump into this discussion so late, but here is a link to the official mascot page as per Nicholls: http://www.nicholls.edu/mascot/official-logos-and-marks/
Take a look at the links on the left and see how the new Tillou came to be and why he looks the way he does - including the responses to the survey questions and how his uniform will be similar to current military dress uniforms.
chrisattsu
August 12th, 2009, 11:38 AM
Sorry to jump into this discussion so late, but here is a link to the official mascot page as per Nicholls: http://www.nicholls.edu/mascot/official-logos-and-marks/
Take a look at the links on the left and see how the new Tillou came to be and why he looks the way he does - including the responses to the survey questions and how his uniform will be similar to current military dress uniforms.
http://www.nicholls.edu/mascot/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Geaux-Colonels_CLR.jpg
If I didn't know, this logo would tell me that that Nicholls is from Louisiana right away
JagHammer
August 12th, 2009, 01:46 PM
More liberal trash trying to snuff out the heritage of the South. Same thing happened with OLE MISS. What I love is over half of the state of Mississippi, BLACKS INCLUDED, proudly voted to keep the confederate battle flag on the state flag. smart folks! xthumbsupx
That's one of the many reasons I left. xlolx
GreatAppSt
August 12th, 2009, 05:26 PM
Doesn't look Nazi at all to me. My first thought was a cross between a Stalinist and Japanese WWII poster.xpeacex
Make the N on the cap an red army star, and what would you have? a great commie poster.
Big Al
August 12th, 2009, 11:13 PM
Sorry to jump into this discussion so late, but here is a link to the official mascot page as per Nicholls: http://www.nicholls.edu/mascot/official-logos-and-marks/
Take a look at the links on the left and see how the new Tillou came to be and why he looks the way he does - including the responses to the survey questions and how his uniform will be similar to current military dress uniforms.
Thanks for that -- it was very interesting. Looks like the new mascot is a good return to Nicholls' "heritage".
ASU
August 13th, 2009, 12:16 AM
It reminds me of a Japanese officer holding a sword saying, "To hell with Babe Ruth....Yankee, you die." Just as they did on many Pacific islands late at night.
So maybe you guys could get some additional financing from Tokyo. Maybe they would loan you Godzilla also.
I bet KFC would let you use "you know who" and maybe fund you also.
Colonel Sanders lives............lives, I tell you......you could hand out a bucket of chicken with each ticket.....have them beat on the bottom....or put their cowbells inside them to amplify the sound....or cut a hold in the bottom to use as a megaphone.
I did kind of like your idea about the sword in one hand.....the cut off head in the other.
chrisattsu
August 13th, 2009, 10:27 AM
It reminds me of a Japanese officer holding a sword saying, "To hell with Babe Ruth....Yankee, you die." Just as they did on many Pacific islands late at night.
So maybe you guys could get some additional financing from Tokyo. Maybe they would loan you Godzilla also.
I bet KFC would let you use "you know who" and maybe fund you also.
Colonel Sanders lives............lives, I tell you......you could hand out a bucket of chicken with each ticket.....have them beat on the bottom....or put their cowbells inside them to amplify the sound....or cut a hold in the bottom to use as a megaphone.
I did kind of like your idea about the sword in one hand.....the cut off head in the other.
http://badelements.net/godzilla.jpg
Seeing the new logo, Godzilla signed a LOI to play for the Colonels next fall. Apparently this true freshman has some raw talent and four years of eligibility. Good pick up NSU
EmeryZach
August 13th, 2009, 01:40 PM
So how much are they going to pay someone to re-design this next year?
Frosty The Snowbuff
August 14th, 2009, 09:15 AM
http://badelements.net/godzilla.jpg
Seeing the new logo, Godzilla signed a LOI to play for the Colonels next fall. Apparently this true freshman has some raw talent and four years of eligibility. Good pick up NSU
xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx
GeauxColonels
August 14th, 2009, 02:44 PM
http://www.nicholls.edu/mascot/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Geaux-Colonels_CLR.jpg
If I didn't know, this logo would tell me that that Nicholls is from Louisiana right away
I actually really like the new logo package they have. I think it's a much more cohesive look that all of the athletics can use. The main problem with our athletics programs recently are the sheer inconsistencies in logos, colors, etc. This, hopefully, will put everyone under one umbrella. As for the "Nazi Colonel" - he's actually grown on me. It could have been MUCH worse.
TColonel, thanks for posting the link to that site, I've been trying to find the other logos from the package with no luck.
The new Nicholls State battle cry - Eff with us and we'll go Nazi on your ass!
GeauxColonels
August 14th, 2009, 02:46 PM
http://badelements.net/godzilla.jpg
Seeing the new logo, Godzilla signed a LOI to play for the Colonels next fall. Apparently this true freshman has some raw talent and four years of eligibility. Good pick up NSU
Nice, we could use a good, big o-lineman with the triple option offense. We can never have too many of these! xthumbsupx
GeauxColonels
August 14th, 2009, 02:53 PM
The bigger issue I see isn't just that it looks "nazi" or like a "japanese soldier," but that it's too dark, too realistic and too threatening for an athletic logo...one of the first rules of thumb when designing a logo or a mascot costume is to strike a happy medium between masculine/intimidating and child/fan friendly and this certainly doesn't do that IMO. If the image were more "cartoon" or caricature-like, it wouldn't be so bad, but it's a proportional, life-like drawing with a highly threatening posture. I can see why some would like it, but I can easily see how it would turn most people off. I can see it being a particular problem with younger kids and parents with younger kids, and when you're trying to reach a younger demographic, it certainly doesn't help if you scare some of the off.
That's true. But the logos that you're looking at are just that - logos. There are a lot of schools out there where the mascot doesn't match the logo. And, in recent years, schools have now contracted out for "kiddie" versions of thier mascots.
Here's a excerpt from the Nicholls State link that TColonel provided. It's one of the FAQs regarding the logo:
7) Will the costumed mascot look like the logo?
No. The costumed mascot is designed to be a larger than life, friendly character that fans of all ages will like.
Here are just a few examples of the kiddie mascot logos created by Rickabaugh Graphics, the firm that designed the new Nicholls State package:
http://home.roadrunner.com/~rickabaugh/images/Coll2b-Logos4.gif
http://home.roadrunner.com/~rickabaugh/PortCL4.html
TexasTerror
August 15th, 2009, 10:43 PM
Trouble in "Colonel Country" over the logo...
Outraged by the image's "menacing" appearance, hundreds of people have flooded social networking sites and college sports forums to vent their concerns about the revamped logo design, with a number likening the black, red and gray-hued colonel to a soldier from Adolf Hitler's Third Reich or a member of Soviet Russia's Red Army.
"It looked like a Nazi soldier -- a very angry Nazi soldier," said Nicholls alumna Hollie Garrison, 27, who saw the logo online for the first time this month. "My jaw dropped. I was speechless. I kind of thought it was a joke."
Garrison, who lives in Lafayette, has started a group on Facebook called "I hate the new Tillou a.k.a. 'Nicholls the Nazi.'¤" As of Saturday afternoon, the site had attracted more than 275 members.
http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2009/08/new_nicholls_mascot_has_many_a.html
GeauxColonels
August 17th, 2009, 09:55 AM
Trouble in "Colonel Country" over the logo...
http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2009/08/new_nicholls_mascot_has_many_a.html
The problem I have with the Times-Picayune (the local New Orleans newspaper that uses NOLA.com as its web presence) is that they practically NEVER cover Nicholls State. But, all of a sudden they make it a point to talk about this? They didn't even cover the process and struggle over the prior mascot. But all of a sudden, this is important to them? As I've said before, I hated the fact we loss the old Colonel...but I like this design. I actually left the Facebook group they mention in that article after seeing all of the logos and focus group results.
TColonel
August 17th, 2009, 10:59 AM
Trouble in "Colonel Country" over the logo...
http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2009/08/new_nicholls_mascot_has_many_a.html
A good friend of mine was asked by Nicholls to be interviewed for this article as an alum who is in support of the mascot and his comments were left out of the article. Furthermore, he asked that the TP, which is what this paper is, to include the website that describes the mascot and the survey, etc. - but that does not sell papers as it would squash much of the controversy.
The word around the big fundraiser that Nicholls had over the weekend about the article was the TP does not cover Nicholls athletics, but they can cover the mascot? Just a paper looking for the negative - nothing new and it is expected.
TexasTerror
August 17th, 2009, 11:05 AM
The TP does not have the staff to properly cover any school besides LSU and Tulane. They are understaffed in the wake of losing subscribers, downward trend in advertising dollars and do not properly any of the schools within the city limits beyond Tulane, let alone the others just outside (SLU and Nicholls)
GeauxColonels
August 17th, 2009, 11:09 AM
The TP does not have the staff to properly cover any school besides LSU and Tulane. They are understaffed in the wake of losing subscribers, downward trend in advertising dollars and do not properly any of the schools within the city limits beyond Tulane, let alone the others just outside (SLU and Nicholls)
I'm well aware of the problems at the Times-Picayune. I have a cousin who is a copy editor for the paper (and a Nicholls State alumni). But they can easily buy the stories from the Houma and Thibodaux papers. Newspapers do that ALL the time. I see stories in the Times-Pic about LaTech, ULL and Southern all of the time. Why can't they covery Nicholls and Southeastern? And it's not as if this is a new problem...they've NEVER done it. Also, if they can have as many prep football stories in the paper on Saturdays as they have always had, they can afford to pay 2 freelance reporters to go to Thibodaux and Hammond to write brief articles.
TexasTerror
August 17th, 2009, 11:14 AM
Why can't they covery Nicholls and Southeastern? And it's not as if this is a new problem...they've NEVER done it. Also, if they can have as many prep football stories in the paper on Saturdays as they have always had, they can afford to pay 2 freelance reporters to go to Thibodaux and Hammond to write brief articles.
They used to send writers to SLU, Southern and Nicholls for home football games. I know the guy that did Southern. Believe he stopped after '07. The new Tulane beat writer used to cover the Lions, which I am guessing GL94 can confirm. When'd they stop doing this? 2007 as well?
And prep football stories DO sell papers. "Mom and Pop" want a paper with mentions of their sons, daughters and such.
The TP got lots of heat two years ago when they skimmed on their GCAC coverage. They brought it back. If it sells, they'll run it. Hammond (Star) and Thibodaux/Houma (Comet/Courier) have their own papers and I'm guessing the TP does not feel they are needed to sell...
TexasTerror
August 17th, 2009, 01:11 PM
More coverage...
http://thebiglead.com/?p=17985
GeauxColonels
August 17th, 2009, 05:09 PM
They used to send writers to SLU, Southern and Nicholls for home football games. I know the guy that did Southern. Believe he stopped after '07. The new Tulane beat writer used to cover the Lions, which I am guessing GL94 can confirm. When'd they stop doing this? 2007 as well?
And prep football stories DO sell papers. "Mom and Pop" want a paper with mentions of their sons, daughters and such.
The TP got lots of heat two years ago when they skimmed on their GCAC coverage. They brought it back. If it sells, they'll run it. Hammond (Star) and Thibodaux/Houma (Comet/Courier) have their own papers and I'm guessing the TP does not feel they are needed to sell...
That's all fine...but why all of a sudden do they care about the logo/mascot situation? If no one cares about Nicholls State athletics in the New Orleans area, why should they care about this? See what I'm saying?
DFW HOYA
August 17th, 2009, 07:03 PM
From Deadspin.com: "They dropped the previous white-bearded, gray-suited Confederate in 2004 after the NAACP pointed out that slavery was wrong. Fortunately, there aren't many pro-Cossack organizations in Louisiana so the New Tillou might be here for awhile."
http://deadspin.com/5339060/nicholls-state-mascot-will-smash-capitalism-slash-you-in-the-face
TexasTerror
August 18th, 2009, 08:08 AM
Here's a threat of legal action from the Facebook group...I urge all of you to take down the logo in this thread! ;)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=115600722125
Hi Hollie.
My name is Renee Piper, and I am the director of university relations at Nicholls State University. I am contacting you to ask that you immediately remove the Nicholls artwork from your Facebook group and event.
The university has trademarked the logo artwork with the Louisiana Secretary of State, and you are not an authorized user. Using the university's trademarked artwork without authorization is trademark infringement and can result in legal proceedings against the infringer.
I realize the new Col. Tillou will not appeal to everyone, but please know that his creation was a well thought out one-year process that involved many focus groups — students, alumni, faculty, staff, community members and student athletes all participated.
We're proud of our new mascot, and we hope the public will understand that the design was selected by the majority of focus group participants. Hopefully our new and improved Col. Tillou will lead the Colonels to many victories in the Southland Conference.
Thank you for your cooperation. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Renee Piper
Director
Office of University Relations
Nicholls State University
TColonel
August 18th, 2009, 10:03 AM
Here's a threat of legal action from the Facebook group...I urge all of you to take down the logo in this thread! ;)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=115600722125
Hi Hollie.
My name is Renee Piper, and I am the director of university relations at Nicholls State University. I am contacting you to ask that you immediately remove the Nicholls artwork from your Facebook group and event.
The university has trademarked the logo artwork with the Louisiana Secretary of State, and you are not an authorized user. Using the university's trademarked artwork without authorization is trademark infringement and can result in legal proceedings against the infringer.
I realize the new Col. Tillou will not appeal to everyone, but please know that his creation was a well thought out one-year process that involved many focus groups — students, alumni, faculty, staff, community members and student athletes all participated.
We're proud of our new mascot, and we hope the public will understand that the design was selected by the majority of focus group participants. Hopefully our new and improved Col. Tillou will lead the Colonels to many victories in the Southland Conference.
Thank you for your cooperation. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Renee Piper
Director
Office of University Relations
Nicholls State University
I am starting to understand why the Northwestern fans do not like you - the letter was written to this person because she was promoting a negative discussion about the logo. Also, the link to the blog you put on here earlier in this discussion thread pretty much said it was a stupid discussion once they read about it.
Yes, Nicholls changed the mascot and some poeple do not like it, partly becuase you put it up first with a bad copy from the media guide that got people on this board thinking it had a Japanese look to it, when that was really a small part of the media guide cover and not the entire thing. I know you support the SLC, but dude, give it a rest and talk about football.
lionsrking2
August 18th, 2009, 10:26 AM
Here's a threat of legal action from the Facebook group...I urge all of you to take down the logo in this thread! ;)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=115600722125
Hi Hollie.
My name is Renee Piper, and I am the director of university relations at Nicholls State University. I am contacting you to ask that you immediately remove the Nicholls artwork from your Facebook group and event.
The university has trademarked the logo artwork with the Louisiana Secretary of State, and you are not an authorized user. Using the university's trademarked artwork without authorization is trademark infringement and can result in legal proceedings against the infringer.
I realize the new Col. Tillou will not appeal to everyone, but please know that his creation was a well thought out one-year process that involved many focus groups — students, alumni, faculty, staff, community members and student athletes all participated.
We're proud of our new mascot, and we hope the public will understand that the design was selected by the majority of focus group participants. Hopefully our new and improved Col. Tillou will lead the Colonels to many victories in the Southland Conference.
Thank you for your cooperation. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Renee Piper
Director
Office of University Relations
Nicholls State University
They can threaten all they want to, but it's a losing argument.
BEAR
August 18th, 2009, 10:33 AM
They can threaten all they want to, but it's a losing argument.
Exactly. You can post anyone's logo all you want. You can copy it, wear it, give it away, do whatever you want.....as long as you don't sell it! The school is trying to bully someone who has a negative opinion of their creation and hopefully that person will know there's nothing much the school can do..as long as the facebook person is not using it for personal financial gain!
BEAR
August 18th, 2009, 10:35 AM
Is that a mustache on the logo? xlolx
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object3/1759/75/n115600722125_9086.jpg
Here's the one she doesn't like.
http://www.nicholls.edu/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Nicholls_Primary_No-Shield_CLR1-220x150.jpg
GeauxColonels
August 18th, 2009, 01:54 PM
I am starting to understand why the Northwestern fans do not like you - the letter was written to this person because she was promoting a negative discussion about the logo. Also, the link to the blog you put on here earlier in this discussion thread pretty much said it was a stupid discussion once they read about it.
Yes, Nicholls changed the mascot and some poeple do not like it, partly becuase you put it up first with a bad copy from the media guide that got people on this board thinking it had a Japanese look to it, when that was really a small part of the media guide cover and not the entire thing. I know you support the SLC, but dude, give it a rest and talk about football.
I think his post was sort of "tongue-in-cheek", not really urging anyone to take down the pictures. As for the letter, the logo they use on the Facebook group's main page actually has substituted the colonel's face with Hitler's face. But again, the University really has no right to go after them since they're protected under satire.
TexasTerror
August 18th, 2009, 03:13 PM
I think his post was sort of "tongue-in-cheek", not really urging anyone to take down the pictures.
It was tongue in cheek. I like Nicholls State and have absolutely no qualms about it. I was more or less poking fun at the situation, namely the letter.
They can threaten all they want to, but it's a losing argument.
I agree. And they should have known that someone from those boards was bound to post it on the Facebook site. Seriously, who wouldn't?
GeauxColonels
August 19th, 2009, 05:07 PM
It was tongue in cheek. I like Nicholls State and have absolutely no qualms about it. I was more or less poking fun at the situation, namely the letter.
I agree. And they should have known that someone from those boards was bound to post it on the Facebook site. Seriously, who wouldn't?
I think it was incredibly stupid to write that letter to anyone against the logo. Everyone has their right to an opinion. Not everyone is going to like the logo. Hell, I wasn't sure about it at first but it's definitely grown on me. We now have a professional-looking, well thought out collegiate logo package for our athletics programs. HOPEFULLY, this can translate into more merchandise for the University. I'm tied of seeing Southeastern, McNeese State, Northwestern State, ULL, ULM, and LaTech merchandise at the hat store here in Baton Rouge with no Nicholls State stuff. Heck, they even have TULANE hats here.
BEAR
August 19th, 2009, 06:03 PM
I think it was incredibly stupid to write that letter to anyone against the logo. Everyone has their right to an opinion. Not everyone is going to like the logo. Hell, I wasn't sure about it at first but it's definitely grown on me. We now have a professional-looking, well thought out collegiate logo package for our athletics programs. HOPEFULLY, this can translate into more merchandise for the University. I'm tired of seeing Southeastern, McNeese State, Northwestern State, ULL, ULM, and LaTech merchandise at the hat store here in Baton Rouge with no Nicholls State stuff. Heck, they even have TULANE hats here.
I feel ya. The hogs in this state...xmadx
Hammerhead
August 19th, 2009, 09:57 PM
By that logic, you'd think the Sioux (or those who will soon not-be-named Sioux) are from the bayou.
http://www.nicholls.edu/mascot/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Geaux-Colonels_CLR.jpg
If I didn't know, this logo would tell me that that Nicholls is from Louisiana right away
blur2005
August 19th, 2009, 10:43 PM
I think the logo is great. Just make sure not to have a Japanese war flag, a swastika, or a hammer and sickle behind it when it's displayed.
GeauxColonels
August 20th, 2009, 01:03 PM
By that logic, you'd think the Sioux (or those who will soon not-be-named Sioux) are from the bayou.
Just because the word ends with an "X"? That logic doesn't fly. He was talking about the spelling of the ENTIRE word "Go" as "G-E-A-U-X". There's not valid comparison there between that and "Sioux".
GeauxColonels
August 20th, 2009, 01:07 PM
I feel ya. The hogs in this state...xmadx
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE LSU. I actually went there for my graduate degree. But I'll always be a Colonel first. I'll pull for Nicholls State EVERY TIME while I'll pull LSU except when they play Nicholls State. I made it a point to NEVER wear LSU gear while on campus at Nicholls State. But you see it everywhere.
But I also think that it's partially the university administration's fault. There was practically no where to purchase Colonels branded merchandise except the University Bookstore on campus (which was only open from like 9-5 on weekdays). It didn't exactly make it easy for the general public to get gear. They've definitely improved that recently.
Longhorn
August 20th, 2009, 01:45 PM
New Nicholls State cheer....BONZAI!!!
<img src="index.asp_files/Benton_Sowers-2.jpg" alt="" name="imgMain" border="0">
Longhorn
August 20th, 2009, 01:47 PM
BONZAI!!!!!!!
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb45/colewelter/Benton_The_Sowers_large.jpg
TexasTerror
August 24th, 2009, 10:05 AM
We'll see what comes from this...this may only add to the anger behind the mascot/logo situation...
THIBODAUX – Working media are invited to Nicholls State University on Thursday, Aug. 27, for “Welcome Back Day.” Highlighting this year’s event is the return of Colonel Tillou, the new costumed mascot who will make his entrance at approximately 11:45 a.m.
“We are so excited about our new mascot,” Renee Piper, director of university relations, said. “The people of the Bayou Region are cordially invited to come out and help the new Tillou usher in the fall 2009 semester.”
http://www.nicholls.edu/news/2009/08/24/media-alert-costumed-mascot-to-be-introduced-this-week-at-nicholls/
89Hen
August 24th, 2009, 11:22 AM
Blood on the sword? xeyebrowx
Hood
August 24th, 2009, 11:53 AM
But I also think that it's partially the university administration's fault. There was practically no where to purchase Colonels branded merchandise except the University Bookstore on campus (which was only open from like 9-5 on weekdays). It didn't exactly make it easy for the general public to get gear. They've definitely improved that recently.
Don't forget grossly overpriced.
I'm still miffed, 8 years later, over having to pay over 30 dollars for an umbrella one unfortunate day. I was pretty riled up last year when I realized SOMEONE finally threw the thing in the garbage as it was mostly a skeletal remain. Being an old man at heart I pitched a fit, decrying it still had use and "I paid 30 bucks for that thing in 2002!!!!"
But really, yeah the stuff is overpriced. Of course I also noticed on the school website you can (or could haven't looked in a while )buy Colonel branded gear by Tommy Hilfiger.
Now I have no qualms against Mr. Hilfiger. I've been known to don some of his attire on an odd occasion. But I can't see the average Joe Freshman on a limited budget going drop 60 bucks on a collared Hilfiger Nicholls shirt.
I could very well be wrong though.
GeauxColonels
August 24th, 2009, 01:59 PM
We'll see what comes from this...this may only add to the anger behind the mascot/logo situation...
http://www.nicholls.edu/news/2009/08/24/media-alert-costumed-mascot-to-be-introduced-this-week-at-nicholls/
I doubt it. NO ONE goes to this kind of thing. Sure, they may get a small pep band to go, have the cheerleaders and dance team there. But no students go. They put it in the quad next to the Nicholls State memorial casket adorned with the sometimes "eternal" flame just to make it look more crowded than it really is. Truth is, most of the people you would see in those pictures are pissed off that they have to go around all of that crap just to make it to class.
As for the mascot, from what I understand it won't look anything like the logo.
GeauxColonels
August 24th, 2009, 09:24 PM
Nicholls State YouTube video promoting the unveiling of the new Colonel Tillou. As advertised, it looks like a charachature of the colonel in the new logo package.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXY-5jMlqIg
TexasTerror
August 25th, 2009, 08:03 AM
YouTube video promoting the 'reveal'...you pretty much get to see the whole costume sans the face (which you get a partial glimpse of in the volleyball scene where he's going for the attack)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXY-5jMlqIg
TexasTerror
August 25th, 2009, 09:50 PM
Here's the Facebook group for those wanting to see the recent reaction to the "reveal" video...
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=115600722125
GeauxColonels
August 27th, 2009, 11:17 AM
Today, at approximately 11:45, the will "unveil" the costumed mascot.
http://www.nicholls.edu/mascot/
89Hen
August 27th, 2009, 11:22 AM
Today, at approximately 11:45, the will "unveil" the costumed mascot.
Judging by the sillouette it would apprear it's at least a little cartoonish. I was afraid it would just be a mean looking guy in uniform and not in the foam head.
http://www.nicholls.edu/mascot/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/Have-you-seen-Tillou-2.jpg
TexasTerror
August 27th, 2009, 05:51 PM
And here he is...
http://www.nicholls.edu/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Tillou-144x220.jpg
And a video from Nicholls...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpUGDKg6jRQ
DG Cowboy
August 27th, 2009, 06:56 PM
Looks like he's looking for his misplaced sousaphone. McNeese and Nicholls are pretty good rivals, and some of my Nicholls friends are upset with this.
JagHammer
August 27th, 2009, 10:15 PM
And here he is...
http://www.nicholls.edu/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Tillou-144x220.jpg
And a video from Nicholls...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpUGDKg6jRQ
http://gamehall.uol.com.br/infohall/bison/bison-badazz.jpg http://www.nicholls.edu/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Tillou-144x220.jpg http://gamehall.uol.com.br/infohall/bison/bison-animation.gif
BEAR
August 28th, 2009, 09:18 AM
And here he is...
http://www.nicholls.edu/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Tillou-144x220.jpg
And a video from Nicholls...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpUGDKg6jRQ
And here's his agent:
http://www.dailyactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/caricature-jay-leno-300x237.jpg
Jay Leno
89Hen
August 28th, 2009, 09:28 AM
And here he is...
http://www.nicholls.edu/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Tillou-144x220.jpg
I know the school colors are red but...
http://watson.me.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/scarlet1.jpg
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