Sports Network Poll - 11/17

[bullseye44]

No changes in the top 10...

Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. James Madison Dukes (106) 9-1 2,986 1
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (13) 9-2 2,871 2
3. Cal Poly Mustangs (1) 8-1 2,623 3
4. Northern Iowa Panthers 9-2 2,517 4
5. Montana Grizzlies 10-1 2,499 5
6. Villanova Wildcats 8-2 2,355 6
7. Richmond Spiders 8-3 2,188 7
8. Weber State Wildcats 9-2 2,161 8
9. Wofford Terriers 8-2 2,005 9
10. Southern Illinois Salukis 8-2 1,988 10
11. New Hampshire Wildcats 8-2 1,659 13
12. Elon Phoenix 8-3 1,473 11
13. Central Arkansas Bears 9-2 1,448 15
14. McNeese State Cowboys 7-3 1,272 16
15. South Carolina State Bulldogs 9-2 1,231 17
16. William & Mary Tribe 7-3 1,106 12
17. Maine Black Bears 8-3 900 21
18. Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 8-3 863 20
19. Harvard Crimson 8-1 769 19
20. Furman Paladins 7-4 595 14
21. Colgate Raiders 8-2 506 23
22. Liberty Flames 9-2 409 24
23. Western Illinois Leathernecks 6-4 338 25
24. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 8-3 242 NR
25. Tennessee State Tigers 8-3 238 18

Others receiving votes: Holy Cross 196, Prairie View 185, Eastern Kentucky 174, North Dakota State 147, Grambling 117, Montana State 111, Texas State 107, South Dakota State 87, Lafayette 47, Massachusetts 43, Florida A&M 35, Albany 28, Georgia Southern 23, Bethune-Cookman 18, Brown 10, Northern Arizona 7, Dayton 6, Jacksonville 5, San Diego 4, Yale 3, Monmouth 2 Northwestern State 2, South Dakota 2.

[Chi Panther]

Oops....UNI over-rated again....xnonono2x

[Hoyadestroya85]

Whoever gave Cal Poly the first place vote should be burned at the stake

[Poly Pigskin]

Whoever gave Cal Poly the first place vote should be burned at the stake

But not the 13 that voted ASU?

[dbackjon]

But not the 13 that voted ASU?

Teams with ZERO FCS losses:

Weber State
James Madison

[Hoyadestroya85]

But not the 13 that voted ASU?

you could make the argument that at this point in the season ASU is hitting its stride and is in fact the best team in the country, you can't say the same about cal poly

[Poly Pigskin]

you could make the argument that at this point in the season ASU is hitting its stride and is in fact the best team in the country, you can't say the same about cal poly

Really? You watch many games?

[Poly Pigskin]

I'm not trying to say Cal Poly is the best team in the country, but if you can make the argument for App then you can also make it for CP.

[wideright82]

I'm not trying to say Cal Poly is the best team in the country, but if you can make the argument for App then you can also make it for CP.


No you can't.

[dgreco]

WTF South Dakota?

6-4 with only 1 D1 win? Pisses me off when I see stuff like that. Early in the year North Dakota was getting unnecessary love

[Khan4Cats]

Teams with ZERO FCS losses:

Weber State
James Madison

Teams with ZERO FCS non-conference wins:

Indiana State
Idaho State
Chattanooga
WEBER STATE
....

[dgreco]

Teams with ZERO FCS non-conference wins:

Indiana State
Idaho State
Chattanooga
WEBER STATE
....

Saint Francis (PA)

[Poly Pigskin]

No you can't.

1 loss by 2 points, no one has come within 2 TDs since then (week 2), #1 offense in the country, and the defense has been (slowly) improving. If that's not hitting their stride, I don't know what is.

[JayJ79]

1 loss by 2 points, no one has come within 2 TDs since then (week 2), #1 offense in the country, and the defense has been (slowly) improving. If that's not hitting their stride, I don't know what is.

you're not on the east coast.
obviously you're not worthy of first place votes. ;op

[appfan2008]

1 loss by 2 points, no one has come within 2 TDs since then (week 2), #1 offense in the country, and the defense has been (slowly) improving. If that's not hitting their stride, I don't know what is.

ok... if you are so sure have you seen app play? they are improving over the course of the season as well against tougher comp...

[Thumper 76]

WTF South Dakota?

6-4 with only 1 D1 win? Pisses me off when I see stuff like that. Early in the year North Dakota was getting unnecessary love

South Dakota even crossing the minds of a voter is absolutely ridiculous, their only D1 win was against Southern Utah. Granted it was at SUU and SUU is much improved from last year, but come on.

[elon77]

you're not on the east coast.
obviously you're not worthy of first place votes. ;op

They play football on the west coast? I thought they only had beach volleyball and surfed.:D

[slostang]

No you can't.

Sure he can. He may or may not be right, but he can say it.

I think Cal Poly can play with any FCS team in the county.

[McNeese75]

you could make the argument that at this point in the season ASU is hitting its stride and is in fact the best team in the country, you can't say the same about cal poly

Sure you can.

[Proud Griz Man]

Sure he can. He may or may not be right, but he can say it.

I think Cal Poly can play with any FCS team in the county.

Which county ?? xlolx xrotatehx xlolx just couldn't resist :D

[wideright82]

Sure he can. He may or may not be right, but he can say it.

I think Cal Poly can play with any FCS team in the county.


I was just messing around with him, seemed like the only thing I could say to that. Of course you can make the argument, I just told him he can't, which is pretty absurd to tell someone they can't argue something. xthumbsupx To be honest you could make the argument about most of the top 10. If you make it about Cal Poly, you have to be able to make the argument for Montana, in which case Weber. I wouldn't mind seeing a comparison of CP, App, and JMU, the 3 teams getting votes, I personally think the argument would look like a silly one after that.

[wideright82]

1 loss by 2 points, no one has come within 2 TDs since then (week 2), #1 offense in the country, and the defense has been (slowly) improving. If that's not hitting their stride, I don't know what is.

When did i say they weren't hitting their stride? Great point though? I guess those are the requirements to be referred to as "Hitting Ones Stride"

[Poly Pigskin]

ok... if you are so sure have you seen app play? they are improving over the course of the season as well against tougher comp...

I haven't seen App play, but if you would read above, I'm not saying Poly is better than App. I'm just saying it's not that outlandish to make the argument for CP at #1, and certainly doesn't justify burning at the stake. It might justify a good tarring and feathering though... xrotatehx

[smcwildcat]

there goes umass and their 3 year in top 25....unh app and montana i believe are tops over the eyars since 04

[UNI Pike]

I have watched three of the Cal Poly games online. They remind me of the 1997 St Louis Rams. Offense, offense, offense. H3ll, I think the Gatorade guy runs a 4.3 40.

However, the defense is at best average. The pass defense is suspect. UC Davis was carving up that secondary in the first half (I did not get to see the second half, but obviously adjustments were made).

I will be interested to see how they matchup against WISC. Expecting a W for WISC, but I am more interested in watching the matchups to see how WISC attempts to handle the Mustang offensive scheme. It will be interesting to see the clash of styles - timing versus brute force.

[mlbowl]

Teams with ZERO FCS non-conference wins:

Indiana State
Idaho State
Chattanooga
WEBER STATE
....


please...xrolleyesx ...Weber State's non-conference losses were @ Hawaii & @ Utah

[Khan4Cats]

please...xrolleyesx ...Weber State's non-conference losses were @ Hawaii & @ Utah

And their non-conference FCS wins were........


They may be a good team, but they have only proved that they are better than the rest of the Big Sky.
Nothing else, yet.

[Anovafan]

I really don't want to sound like I am hating on Cal Poly, but as we get closer to the playoffs, we should all go back and look at the schedules and the results. I just did for Cal Poly.

Their opponent's combined record? It is 41-55, and 10 of those wins are from Montana.

Cal Poly hitting their stride in the last 3? Well, it was against Idaho State (0-11), NC Central (3-7) and UC Davis (5-6), not exactly the cream of the FCS crop.

They beat who they were supposed to beat, they lost to the only good team they played, and they will likely lose to Wisconsin. Now I am not saying they aren't a good team, personally I think they are very good and they will get to prove it in the playoffs. But I don't think they are even in the same breath as JMU or App. St. right now based on past performance.

Here is their full resume:

Cal Poly Mustangs

Aug 30 - W at San Diego St, 29-27 (1-10)
Sep 6 - L vs. Montana, 28-30 (10-1)
Sep 13 - Cancelled at McNeese State
Sep 20 - W at Northwestern St, 52-18 (6-5)
Oct 4 - W vs. South Dakota, 49-22 (6-4)
Oct 18 - W at South Dakota St, 42-28 (6-5)
Oct 25 - W vs. Southern Utah, 69-41 (4-6)
Nov 1 - W vs. Idaho State, 49-10 (0-11)
Nov 8 - W vs. NC Central, 49-3 (3-7)
Nov 15 - W vs. UC Davis, 51-28 (5-6)
Nov 22 - at Wisconsin, 3:30 PM ET

Opponent’s Record 41-55

[DSUrocks07]

Sure he can. He may or may not be right, but he can say it.

I think Cal Poly can play with any FCS team in the county.

I think that Delaware State deserves a first place vote...I may or may not be right...but I can say it...xeyebrowx

[danefan]

I think that Delaware State deserves a first place vote...I may or may not be right...but I can say it...xeyebrowx

I knew you would say that. :D ;)

Than what does that mean for Delaware who is at least 5 TD's better than Del State? xeyebrowx xsmiley_wix :D ;)

[DSUrocks07]

I knew you would say that. :D ;)

Than what does that mean for Delaware who is at least 5 TD's better than Del State? xeyebrowx xsmiley_wix :D ;)

xlolx xlolx xlolx

I can see us having this argument five years from now...:D xlolx xlolx xlolx

So in TSN's eyes...if DSU came out next year with an offense that blew away every team in the MEAC by at least three TDs a game. Loss a close game to a pretty good team (ala Hampton against SIU earlier this year.) Then plays a middle of the road, FBS team (Wisconsin) to end the season, would we merit a first place vote??? xconfusedx xeyebrowx

If I made this argument in that situation I would get laughed off this board...xwhistlex

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Than what does that mean for Delaware who is at least 5 TD's better than Del State? xeyebrowx xsmiley_wix :D ;)

If you ain't first, you're LAST. xsmiley_wix



Just sayin'.

[RabidRabbit]

Sure he can. He may or may not be right, but he can say it.

I think Cal Poly can play with any FCS team in the county.

And starting in two weeks, you'll get to show that. xthumbsupx

Just hope that I'm wrong about regionalization forcing their hand, and sending Poly to a ranked Weber St., and win that, likely to Montana.

Would love to see an east coast team sent out to Poly, and play at SLO.

Good Luck with dem Badgers, dontcha know! xlolx xnodx

[BEAR]

No changes in the top 10...

Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. James Madison Dukes (106) 9-1 2,986 1
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (13) 9-2 2,871 2
3. Cal Poly Mustangs (1) 8-1 2,623 3
4. Northern Iowa Panthers 9-2 2,517 4
5. Montana Grizzlies 10-1 2,499 5
6. Villanova Wildcats 8-2 2,355 6
7. Richmond Spiders 8-3 2,188 7
8. Weber State Wildcats 9-2 2,161 8
9. Wofford Terriers 8-2 2,005 9
10. Southern Illinois Salukis 8-2 1,988 10
11. New Hampshire Wildcats 8-2 1,659 13
12. Elon Phoenix 8-3 1,473 11
13. Central Arkansas Bears 9-2 1,448 15
14. McNeese State Cowboys 7-3 1,272 16
15. South Carolina State Bulldogs 9-2 1,231 17
16. William & Mary Tribe 7-3 1,106 12
17. Maine Black Bears 8-3 900 21
18. Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 8-3 863 20
19. Harvard Crimson 8-1 769 19
20. Furman Paladins 7-4 595 14
21. Colgate Raiders 8-2 506 23
22. Liberty Flames 9-2 409 24
23. Western Illinois Leathernecks 6-4 338 25
24. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 8-3 242 NR
25. Tennessee State Tigers 8-3 238 18




It's gonna be an explosive RED BEANS AND RICE BOWL game this Saturday in Conway! xlolx xlolx

[Pard4Life]

No changes in the top 10...

Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. James Madison Dukes (106) 9-1 2,986 1
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (13) 9-2 2,871 2
3. Cal Poly Mustangs (1) 8-1 2,623 3
4. Northern Iowa Panthers 9-2 2,517 4
5. Montana Grizzlies 10-1 2,499 5
6. Villanova Wildcats 8-2 2,355 6
7. Richmond Spiders 8-3 2,188 7
8. Weber State Wildcats 9-2 2,161 8
9. Wofford Terriers 8-2 2,005 9
10. Southern Illinois Salukis 8-2 1,988 10
11. New Hampshire Wildcats 8-2 1,659 13
12. Elon Phoenix 8-3 1,473 11
13. Central Arkansas Bears 9-2 1,448 15
14. McNeese State Cowboys 7-3 1,272 16
15. South Carolina State Bulldogs 9-2 1,231 17
16. William & Mary Tribe 7-3 1,106 12
17. Maine Black Bears 8-3 900 21
18. Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 8-3 863 20
19. Harvard Crimson 8-1 769 19
20. Furman Paladins 7-4 595 14
21. Colgate Raiders 8-2 506 23
22. Liberty Flames 9-2 409 24
23. Western Illinois Leathernecks 6-4 338 25
24. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 8-3 242 NR
25. Tennessee State Tigers 8-3 238 18

Others receiving votes: Holy Cross 196, Prairie View 185, Eastern Kentucky 174, North Dakota State 147, Grambling 117, Montana State 111, Texas State 107, South Dakota State 87, Lafayette 47, Massachusetts 43, Florida A&M 35, Albany 28, Georgia Southern 23, Bethune-Cookman 18, Brown 10, Northern Arizona 7, Dayton 6, Jacksonville 5, San Diego 4, Yale 3, Monmouth 2 Northwestern State 2, South Dakota 2.

Terrible that Holy Cross is not ranked... they are a very good team... much more deserving than #21 Fraud-gate

[Thundering_Herd]

Terrible that Holy Cross is not ranked... they are a very good team... much more deserving than #21 Fraud-gate
xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox
Patriot league,...pure talent, great teams by the handfull!
NDSU should be at 18. Discuss and have fun!!!