AGS Poll Results 2023 Wk11

[AGSPoll]

11/13/2023



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes


1
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1200
48


2
Furman Paladins
1126



3
Montana Grizzlies
1095



4
Montana State Bobcats
1077



5
South Dakota Coyotes
1015



6
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
843



7
Idaho Vandals
841



8
Albany Great Danes
828



9
Villanova Wildcats
827



10
Sac State Hornets
786



11
North Dakota State Bison
753



12
Chattanooga Mocs
559



13
Austin Peay Governors
526



14
Western Carolina Catamounts
521



15
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
442



16
Mercer Bears
423



17
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
422



18
Southern Illinois Salukis
417



19T
North Carolina Central Eagles
226



19T
Florida A&M Rattlers
226



21
Northern Iowa Panthers
216



22
Youngstown State Penguins
212



23
Incarnate Word Cardinals
211



24
Harvard Crimson
173



25
Lafayette Leopards
165
















ORV:




26
Richmond Spiders
136



27
Central Arkansas Bears
133



28
Tarleton Texans
55



29
Gardner-Webb Runnin' Bulldogs
42



30
Nicholls Colonels
41



31
Holy Cross Crusaders
32



32
Eastern Illinois Panthers
16



33
William & Mary Tribe
8



34
Elon Phoenix
5




















































Most Significant Win:
North Dakota State Bison






Most Significant Loss:
North Carolina Central Eagles

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Furman Paladins
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Montana Grizzlies
5: South Dakota Coyotes
6: Albany Great Danes
7: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
8: Idaho Vandals
9: Sac State Hornets
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: Chattanooga Mocs
12: Mercer Bears
13: North Dakota State Bison
14: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
15: Austin Peay Governors
16: Harvard Crimson
17: Western Carolina Catamounts
18: Richmond Spiders
19: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
20: Youngstown State Penguins
21: Florida A&M Rattlers
22: Southern Illinois Salukis
23: Lafayette Leopards
24: Incarnate Word Cardinals
25: North Carolina Central Eagles

The Most Significant Win: North Dakota State Bison
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina Central Eagles
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Patriot League

[atthewbon]

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Furman Paladins
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: South Dakota Coyotes
6: Albany Great Danes
7: Sac State Hornets
8: North Dakota State Bison
9: Villanova Wildcats
10: Idaho Vandals
11: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
12: Austin Peay Governors
13: Mercer Bears
14: Western Carolina Catamounts
15: Youngstown State Penguins
16: Southern Illinois Salukis
17: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
18: Northern Iowa Panthers
19: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
20: Florida A&M Rattlers
21: Tarleton Texans
22: Central Arkansas Bears
23: Chattanooga Mocs
24: North Carolina Central Eagles
25: Incarnate Word Cardinals

[McCowboys]

In case some of you don't know, Nicholls went on the road a couple of weeks ago and beat Incarnate Word. UIW had a very long home winning streak, maybe the longest in the FCS (?) up to that point. Saturday Nicholls beat Lamar and has won the Southland Conference's automatic bid to the playoffs. That is all.

[MSUBobcat]

Not sure what the criteria is for highlighting, but I think YSU and UIW should be highlighted yellow for being 1 pt apart. Just 2 points separating Delaware and Idaho.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Not sure what the criteria is for highlighting, but I think YSU and UIW should be highlighted yellow for being 1 pt apart. Just 2 points separating Delaware and Idaho.

1 point gets the highlight and you are correct I missed that one.

[MSUBobcat]

In case some of you don't know, Nicholls went on the road a couple of weeks ago and beat Incarnate Word. UIW had a very long home winning streak, maybe the longest in the FCS (?) up to that point. Saturday Nicholls beat Lamar and has won the Southland Conference's automatic bid to the playoffs. That is all.

I believe Montana State has the longest active home winning streak, which was extended to 26 games this weekend. I can't find a definitive source on that though.

[SeattleCat]

In case some of you don't know, Nicholls went on the road a couple of weeks ago and beat Incarnate Word. UIW had a very long home winning streak, maybe the longest in the FCS (?) up to that point. Saturday Nicholls beat Lamar and has won the Southland Conference's automatic bid to the playoffs. That is all.

Not as long as Montana States home winning streak, Ours is the longest in all of D1.

[Professor Chaos]

This week's top 25 article: https://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-11-top-25-results-5/

A lot of strange movement in the 10-22 range this week I thought but there's some really tight point spreads in the rankings this week. Only 16 points separate #6 from #9, 25 points separate #15 from #18, and 15 points separate #19 from #23. In terms of playoff positioning if the AGS Poll is any guide I think Chattanooga is looking pretty good for a spot while Youngstown State and Incarnate Word might be in for a sweat hoping for some help this Saturday.

[McCowboys]

Not as long as Montana States home winning streak, Ours is the longest in all of D1.

I should have said UIW HAD ONE of the longest (but I did put a question mark in my post). I certainly did not mean to slight my friends, the Bobcats.

The point is that UIW "HAD", but no more, because two weeks ago NICHOLLS, the SLC champions and auto qualifier, went to San Antonio and beat the Cardinals on their home field.

[McCowboys]

Also, is anyone else having trouble with AGS today? It is super SLOW for me, and I had a very long and very nice post that I lost because it took too long to post. ???

[Paladin1aa]

Also, is anyone else having trouble with AGS today? It is super SLOW for me, and I had a very long and very nice post that I lost because it took too long to post. ???


Super slow here. Really messed up

[SeattleCat]

Probably more traffic than usually... All the griz fans are coming out of their caves.

[Nova09]

I hesitate to post this, because it will sound like complaining and I REALLY don't care, I'm j7st asking: what did voters see Saturday to convince them to switch nova and Albany? I got the argument for Albany, ad it REALLY doesn't matter for us because our situation is beat Delaware, get seed; lose, don't.

But, what we saw Saturday was:

Nova beats better team by more points than Albany beats bad team
Nova beats team by 23 that Albany beat by 7
Albany beats team by 18 that Nova beat by 35

I don't need to hear arguments for Albany ahead of Nova, i know them and don't disagree, just curious for the people who switched based on this week: why?

[Professor Chaos]

I hesitate to post this, because it will sound like complaining and I REALLY don't care, I'm j7st asking: what did voters see Saturday to convince them to switch nova and Albany? I got the argument for Albany, ad it REALLY doesn't matter for us because our situation is beat Delaware, get seed; lose, don't.

But, what we saw Saturday was:

Nova beats better team by more points than Albany beats bad team
Nova beats team by 23 that Albany beat by 7
Albany beats team by 18 that Nova beat by 35

I don't need to hear arguments for Albany ahead of Nova, i know them and don't disagree, just curious for the people who switched based on this week: why?
I'm going to guess that voters who may have forgotten about or ignored it were reminded of this game in last week's poll thread: https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401540606

[Preferred Walk-On]

Hello Preferred Walk-On,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/12/2023 5:53:44

Your vote is listed below.

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Furman Paladins
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: South Dakota Coyotes
6: Idaho Vandals
7: Chattanooga Mocs
8: North Dakota State Bison
9: Albany Great Danes
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: Mercer Bears
12: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
13: Sac State Hornets
14: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
15: Northern Iowa Panthers
16: Southern Illinois Salukis
17: Youngstown State Penguins
18: Western Carolina Catamounts
19: Austin Peay Governors
20: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
21: Harvard Crimson
22: Nicholls Colonels
23: Gardner-Webb Runnin' Bulldogs
24: Holy Cross Crusaders
25: Richmond Spiders

The Most Significant Win: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina Central Eagles
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[Professor Chaos]

Here's what I came up with:

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Furman Paladins
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: South Dakota Coyotes
6: Albany Great Danes
7: Idaho Vandals
8: Sac State Hornets
9: Delaware Fightin Blue Hens
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: North Dakota State Bison
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Mercer Bears
14: Western Carolina Catamounts
15: Northern Iowa Panthers
16: Youngstown State Penguins
17: Harvard Crimson
18: Southern Illinois Salukis
19: Austin Peay Governors
20: Lafayette Leopards
21: North Carolina Central Eagles
22: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
23: Florida A&M Rattlers
24: Richmond Spiders
25: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

[caribbeanhen]

I'm going to guess that voters who may have forgotten about or ignored it were reminded of this game in last week's poll thread: https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401540606

+ 1

[FUBeAR]

In case some of you don't know, Nicholls went on the road a couple of weeks ago and beat Incarnate Word. UIW had a very long home winning streak, maybe the longest in the FCS (?) up to that point. Saturday Nicholls beat Lamar and has won the Southland Conference's automatic bid to the playoffs. That is all.CONGRATS TO THE COLONELS!!

[Nova09]

Clenz: I wish voters would see that a loss to weber doesn't eliminate a team from top 10

Monkey's paw: say no more

[Chalupa Batman]

For your viewing pleasure:

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Furman Paladins
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: South Dakota Coyotes
5: Montana State Bobcats
6: Albany Great Danes
7: Idaho Vandals
8: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
9: Villanova Wildcats
10: North Dakota State Bison
11: Chattanooga Mocs
12: Mercer Bears
13: Austin Peay Governors
14: Sac State Hornets
15: Western Carolina Catamounts
16: Youngstown State Penguins
17: Southern Illinois Salukis
18: Richmond Spiders
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Gardner-Webb Runnin' Bulldogs
21: Florida A&M Rattlers
22: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
23: Tarleton Texans
24: Lafayette Leopards
25: Harvard Crimson

The Most Significant Win: North Dakota State Bison
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina Central Eagles

[SpreadTheWord]

Hello SpreadTheWord,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/12/2023 19:24:47

Your vote is listed below.


1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Montana Grizzlies
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: South Dakota Coyotes
5: Furman Paladins
6: Idaho Vandals
7: Sac State Hornets
8: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
9: Albany Great Danes
10: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
11: North Dakota State Bison
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Southern Illinois Salukis
15: Mercer Bears
16: Austin Peay Governors
17: Western Carolina Catamounts
18: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
19: Florida A&M Rattlers
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: Youngstown State Penguins
22: North Carolina Central Eagles
23: Gardner-Webb Runnin' Bulldogs
24: Richmond Spiders
25: Nicholls Colonels

SpreadTheWord

The Most Significant Win: Weber State Wildcats
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina Central Eagles
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Southland Conference

[McCowboys]

Probably more traffic than usually... All the griz fans are coming out of their caves.

LOL

[Silenoz]

Probably more traffic than usually... All the griz fans are coming out of their caves.
Some of us have been here a long time, we've just lacked things worth talking about for most of the last 10 years xlolx

[Grizalltheway]

Probably more traffic than usually... All the griz fans are coming out of their caves.

Says the guy who just happened to join when the cats made their first title game since the Reagan administration. xlolx

[wapiti]

This week's top 25 article: https://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-11-top-25-results-5/

A lot of strange movement in the 10-22 range this week I thought but there's some really tight point spreads in the rankings this week. Only 16 points separate #6 from #9, 25 points separate #15 from #18, and 15 points separate #19 from #23. In terms of playoff positioning if the AGS Poll is any guide I think Chattanooga is looking pretty good for a spot while Youngstown State and Incarnate Word might be in for a sweat hoping for some help this Saturday.

Mr. Chicken will like this: "Brawk of the Wild"

[SteelSD]

Wow, big drop from 18 to 19. Seems like a clear line being drawn there.

[SeattleCat]

Says the guy who just happened to join when the cats made their first title game since the Reagan administration. xlolx


I've been a member long before that, account was lost in the shuffle.

[Professor Chaos]

Mr. Chicken will like this: "Brawk of the Wild"
xlolx

I'm tempted to leave it cuz that is funny but I'm too much of a perfectionist... thanks for pointing that out. :D

[uofmman1122]

Probably more traffic than usually... All the griz fans are coming out of their caves.
Apparently not enough to join the avatar bet lol

THAT INCLUDES GATW AND SILENOZ, I KNOW YOU'RE READING THIS

[ElCid]

Also, is anyone else having trouble with AGS today? It is super SLOW for me, and I had a very long and very nice post that I lost because it took too long to post. ???

Yup. Hangs up. I've taken to copying my posts before I submit in case I lose them.

[ElCid]

I hesitate to post this, because it will sound like complaining and I REALLY don't care, I'm j7st asking: what did voters see Saturday to convince them to switch nova and Albany? I got the argument for Albany, ad it REALLY doesn't matter for us because our situation is beat Delaware, get seed; lose, don't.

But, what we saw Saturday was:

Nova beats better team by more points than Albany beats bad team
Nova beats team by 23 that Albany beat by 7
Albany beats team by 18 that Nova beat by 35

I don't need to hear arguments for Albany ahead of Nova, i know them and don't disagree, just curious for the people who switched based on this week: why?

I didn't.

[POD Knows]

I hesitate to post this, because it will sound like complaining and I REALLY don't care, I'm j7st asking: what did voters see Saturday to convince them to switch nova and Albany? I got the argument for Albany, ad it REALLY doesn't matter for us because our situation is beat Delaware, get seed; lose, don't.

But, what we saw Saturday was:

Nova beats better team by more points than Albany beats bad team
Nova beats team by 23 that Albany beat by 7
Albany beats team by 18 that Nova beat by 35

I don't need to hear arguments for Albany ahead of Nova, i know them and don't disagree, just curious for the people who switched based on this week: why?

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Furman Paladins
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: South Dakota Coyotes
5: Montana State Bobcats
6: Idaho Vandals
7: Sac State Hornets
8: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
9: Villanova Wildcats
10: Albany Great Danes
11: Chattanooga Mocs
12: Harvard Crimson
13: Mercer Bears
14: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
15: North Dakota State Bison
16: Southern Illinois Salukis
17: Western Carolina Catamounts
18: North Carolina Central Eagles
19: Austin Peay Governors
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: Incarnate Word Cardinals
22: Florida A&M Rattlers
23: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
24: Richmond Spiders
25: Central Arkansas Bears

POD Knows

The Most Significant Win: North Dakota State Bison
The Most Significant Loss: Northern Iowa Panthers

[Puddin Tane]

In case some of you don't know, Nicholls went on the road a couple of weeks ago and beat Incarnate Word. UIW had a very long home winning streak, maybe the longest in the FCS (?) up to that point. Saturday Nicholls beat Lamar and has won the Southland Conference's automatic bid to the playoffs. That is all.

Well, seeing how the poll is made up almost entirely of mvfc fans and mt/mt st fans…..

[Preferred Walk-On]

Well, seeing how the poll is made up almost entirely of mvfc fans and mt/mt st fans…..

Good. Now do the STATS poll (UIW #20; Nicholls #29). Oh, maybe the Coaches Poll then, right (UIW #11; Nicholls #32T)?

Not saying that I don't agree that UIW above Nicholls...at all...is wrong. Just saying that you can probably stuff that insinuation of MVFC and UM/MSU bias or lack of attention.

[MSUBobcat]

Well, seeing how the poll is made up almost entirely of mvfc fans and mt/mt st fans…..

Since everyone is so biased against the powerhouse that is this year's Southland, where do YOU think UIW and Nicholls be appropriately ranked?

[SeattleCat]

Since everyone is so biased against the powerhouse that is this year's Southland, where do YOU think UIW and Nicholls be appropriately ranked?

Neither of those teams would finish better than 6th in the big sky. Nichols got pounded by the 4th place big sky team.

[wcugrad95]

I expect the 4th or 5th ranked teams from several of the top conferences would be at least 8-2 against Nicholl's and probably 9-1 against UIW's schedules. On the flip-side, I would expect those 2 teams to be no better than .500 if they played in the top-4 conferences. And I am a SOCON guy.

[MSUBobcat]

Neither of those teams would finish better than 6th in the big sky. Nichols got pounded by the 4th place big sky team.

We could say that definitively (via transitive property xdrunkyx) if Davis beats Sac State in the Causeway Classic. That would push Davis to 4th in the standings and Ball Sac to 5th. The Hornets beat the Southland champ (Nicholls) by 14 on their field, making them 6th, at best. You could almost make the argument that NAU's 1 point loss AT Sac means they would beat the team that lost to them by 14 at home (Nicholls), so 7th might be accurate.

[ysubigred]

I'm just curious about the voting mass on here giving so much love to SIU over YSU?

Is it the W over a POS 4-6 MAC school?

The blowout W over the ASC team?

Moral victory in Brookings?

Hmmm.. 4-4 in the MVFC..

1-3 Against top 25 teams..

L by a lot at Youngstown..

Maybe homerism, but I'm not sure how the majority on here rank em' ahead of YSU, and some don't even have YSU in their top 25..

Just think SIU will probably be the last in, and YSU will be the 1st out of the playoffs..

Just an observation.. I [emoji3590] the Salukis..

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[FUBeAR]

Neither of those teams would finish better than 6th in the big sky.

Nichols got pounded by the 4th place big sky team.

That’s a good data point. FUBeAR isn’t sure a 2 score game is fairly characterized as a ‘pounding,’ but, um, OK.

SACRAMENTO ST. -VS- NICHOLLS


Team
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
Total


Sacramento St. - Winner
7
10
7
14
38


Nicholls
0
3
7
14
24



Here’s another recent Playoff data point that would tend to conflict with the braggadocious conclusion you state in your opening sentence though.

FCS Championship - First Round
BIG SKY #3T @ SOUTHLAND #1T



1
2
3
4
T


IDAHO
7
14
0
21
42


SELA - Winner
7
10
7
21
45



…and how they stacked up within their respective conferences…

BIG SKY 2022 Football Standings


TEAM
CONF
CONF %
OVERALL
OVERALL %


T1. Sacramento State (https://bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2124) %*
8-0
1.000
12-1
.923


T1. Montana State (https://bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2119) %*
8-0
1.000
12-2
.857


T3. Weber State (https://bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2126) *
6-2
.750
10-3
.769


T3. Idaho (https://bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2116) *
6-2
.750
7-5
.583


% - Co-Big Sky Champion
* - FCS Playoff Berth

SOUTHLAND 2022 Football Standings


SCHOOL
SLC
PCT.
OVERALL
PCT.


T1. UIW (https://www.southland.org/schedule.aspx?schedule=1545)
5-1
.833
12-2
.857


T1. Southeastern (https://www.southland.org/schedule.aspx?schedule=1543) (SELA)
5-1
.833
9-4
.692



So…maybe it’s not that Nicholls and/or UIW are underrated. FUBeAR can accept that.

Maybe, based on recent Playoff results, it’s also that The Big Sky Conference remains overrated. Because it seems Southland #1 would be no worse than Big Sky #2…based on this outcome.

Should we give that, apparently inconceivable, notion some ‘white boarding’ here … or nah?

[McCowboys]

Every team is just as good or just as bad as they were the first game of the season, right?
Some teams don't match up better with other teams who play a certain style, right?
Obviously these are true and cannot be disputed.

[MSUBobcat]

That’s a good data point. FUBeAR isn’t sure a 2 score game is fairly characterized as a ‘pounding,’ but, um, OK.

SACRAMENTO ST. -VS- NICHOLLS


Team
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
Total


Sacramento St. - Winner
7
10
7
14
38


Nicholls
0
3
7
14
24



Here’s another recent Playoff data point that would tend to conflict with the braggadocious conclusion you state in your opening sentence though.

FCS Championship - First Round
BIG SKY #3T @ SOUTHLAND #1T



1
2
3
4
T


IDAHO
7
14
0
21
42


SELA - Winner
7
10
7
21
45



…and how they stacked up within their respective conferences…

BIG SKY 2022 Football Standings


TEAM
CONF
CONF %
OVERALL
OVERALL %


T1. Sacramento State (https://bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2124) %*
8-0
1.000
12-1
.923


T1. Montana State (https://bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2119) %*
8-0
1.000
12-2
.857


T3. Weber State (https://bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2126) *
6-2
.750
10-3
.769


T3. Idaho (https://bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2116) *
6-2
.750
7-5
.583


% - Co-Big Sky Champion
* - FCS Playoff Berth

SOUTHLAND 2022 Football Standings


SCHOOL
SLC
PCT.
OVERALL
PCT.


T1. UIW (https://www.southland.org/schedule.aspx?schedule=1545)
5-1
.833
12-2
.857


T1. Southeastern (https://www.southland.org/schedule.aspx?schedule=1543) (SELA)
5-1
.833
9-4
.692



So…maybe it’s not that Nicholls and/or UIW are underrated. FUBeAR can accept that.

Maybe, based on recent Playoff results, it’s also that The Big Sky Conference remains overrated. Because it seems Southland #1 would be no worse than Big Sky #2…based on this outcome.

Should we give that, apparently inconceivable, notion some ‘white boarding’ here … or nah?


xchinscratchx Last year SELA was better than this year, while Idaho is better this year than last, and the final AGS poll bore that out with the 2 being separated by a mere 11 points (https://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-12-top-25-results-4/). SELA won everyone's favorite method of awarding homefield for Round 1, the bidding war, and then won the game by the "home field advantage margin of error". We also all know UIW was MUCH better last year than this year.

It's almost like 2023 and 2022 were two completely different seasons and Mr. Braggadocious (SeattleCat) was talking about THIS YEAR'S TEAMS. MSUBobcat can accept that.

[SeattleCat]

That’s a good data point. FUBeAR isn’t sure a 2 score game is fairly characterized as a ‘pounding,’ but, um, OK.

SACRAMENTO ST. -VS- NICHOLLS


Team
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
Total


Sacramento St. - Winner
7
10
7
14
38


Nicholls
0
3
7
14
24



Here’s another recent Playoff data point that would tend to conflict with the braggadocious conclusion you state in your opening sentence though.

FCS Championship - First Round
BIG SKY #3T @ SOUTHLAND #1T



1
2
3
4
T


IDAHO
7
14
0
21
42


SELA - Winner
7
10
7
21
45



…and how they stacked up within their respective conferences…

BIG SKY 2022 Football Standings


TEAM
CONF
CONF %
OVERALL
OVERALL %


T1. Sacramento State (https://bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2124) %*
8-0
1.000
12-1
.923


T1. Montana State (https://bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2119) %*
8-0
1.000
12-2
.857


T3. Weber State (https://bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2126) *
6-2
.750
10-3
.769


T3. Idaho (https://bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2116) *
6-2
.750
7-5
.583


% - Co-Big Sky Champion
* - FCS Playoff Berth

SOUTHLAND 2022 Football Standings


SCHOOL
SLC
PCT.
OVERALL
PCT.


T1. UIW (https://www.southland.org/schedule.aspx?schedule=1545)
5-1
.833
12-2
.857


T1. Southeastern (https://www.southland.org/schedule.aspx?schedule=1543) (SELA)
5-1
.833
9-4
.692



So…maybe it’s not that Nicholls and/or UIW are underrated. FUBeAR can accept that.

Maybe, based on recent Playoff results, it’s also that The Big Sky Conference remains overrated. Because it seems Southland #1 would be no worse than Big Sky #2…based on this outcome.

Should we give that, apparently inconceivable, notion some ‘white boarding’ here … or nah?


Did Fubear watch the game or go by the Final score which includes 14 garbage points for Nichols?

And the Big Sky >>>>>>>>>>> Southland in 2023.

[Gil Dobie]

That’s a good data point. FUBeAR isn’t sure a 2 score game is fairly characterized as a ‘pounding,’ but, um, OK.

SACRAMENTO ST. -VS- NICHOLLS


Team
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
Total


Sacramento St. - Winner
7
10
7
14
38


Nicholls
0
3
7
14
24





Sac was up 38-10, Nichols scored with 7 minutes left in the game and again on a 84 yard pass with 1:40 left. It was a pounding until garbage time.

[FUBeAR]

xchinscratchx Last year SELA was better than this year, while Idaho is better this year than last, and the final AGS poll bore that out with the 2 being separated by a mere 11 points (https://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-12-top-25-results-4/). SELA won everyone's favorite method of awarding homefield for Round 1, the bidding war, and then won the game by the "home field advantage margin of error". We also all know UIW was MUCH better last year than this year.

It's almost like 2023 and 2022 were two completely different seasons and Mr. Braggadocious (SeattleCat) was talking about THIS YEAR'S TEAMS. MSUBobcat can accept that.
Well PTL!!!! - FUBeAR is so excited that we, here, are never again going to use last year or obviously ANY prior years’ performances in the Playoffs to evaluate the strengths of Teams and Conferences.

MSUBobcat - you’ve made FUBeAR a VERY HAPPY man!!!!

[ElCid]

Well PTL!!!! - FUBeAR is so excited that we, here, are never again going to use last year or obviously ANY prior years’ performances in the Playoffs to evaluate the strengths of Teams and Conferences.

MSUBobcat - you’ve made FUBeAR a VERY HAPPY man!!!!

You sucked him right in on that one. Well played.

[FUBeAR]

Did Fubear watch the game or go by the Final score which includes 14 garbage points for Nichols?

And the Big Sky >>>>>>>>>>> Southland in 2023.
Sounds good…OTOH, it was a 1 score game until the 4th quarter was about to start…



3rd
01:05
SAC - Gipson,Jared 40 yd pass from Bennett,Kaiden (Schreiner,Zach kick) 5 plays, 89 yards, TOP 01:58
24
10



24-7 = 17 … So, 17-10 = 1 score…until the 4th quarter

So…yeah…NOT a “pounding”

Do they teach classes in like “Braggadocio 101” @ all Big Sky schools?


….but besides all that, y’all really seized on the minor point of FUBeAR’s post as the hill you wanted to die on…hilarious.

[SeattleCat]

Sounds good…OTOH, it was a 1 score game until the 4th quarter was about to start…



3rd
01:05
SAC - Gipson,Jared 40 yd pass from Bennett,Kaiden (Schreiner,Zach kick) 5 plays, 89 yards, TOP 01:58
24
10



24-7 = 17 … So, 17-10 = 1 score…until the 4th quarter

So…yeah…NOT a “pounding”

Do they teach classes in like “Braggadocio 101” @ all Big Sky schools?


….but besides all that, y’all really seized on the minor point of FUBeAR’s post as the hill you wanted to die on…hilarious.

You can die on your hill when the Semis is all Big Sky & MVFC teams, And if you actually watched the Sac/Nicholls game you would know it was never in doubt who was the most talented team and who would win 99 out 100 times. Watch the games before you spout your crap stats.

[Professor Chaos]

Every team is just as good or just as bad as they were the first game of the season, right?
Some teams don't match up better with other teams who play a certain style, right?
Obviously these are true and cannot be disputed.
Nicholls also lost to 4-6 SEMO the week before they beat UIW. It's going to be tough for any SLC team outside of UIW to get love in the polls when, as a group, the rest of the SLC teams put up a grand total of 1 OOC win against a D1 team. This was a bad year for the SLC - if you look at each team's entire body of work only UIW deserves consideration for the top 25 IMO and even that's iffy.

[FUBeAR]

the Sac/Nicholls game…was never in doubt who was the most talented team and who would win 99 out 100 times. Watch the games before you spout your crap stats.

Neither of those teams would finish better than 6th in the big sky. Nichols got pounded by the 4th place big sky team.
Speaking of spouting…

JEEZ - Imagine how the carnage would be described if SacSt had been able to get a 10 point lead on Nicholls before they were ready to go to the start of the 4th quarter.

LOL - SeattleCat obviously got an A+ in BR101. Heck, s/he may have even majored in it. Was that major part of the Communications School or the Psychology Department?

[FUBeAR]

Nicholls also lost to 4-6 SEMO.
Wow - so, you’re saying Nicholls is a REALLY bad Team, huh?

So what does that say about Big Sky #4 SacState…who was barely able to get past a 1 score lead on Nicholls almost into the 4th quarter?

The Hornets probably aren’t total garbage like all of the Southland Teams (except maybe UIW), but there’s no way a 3 FCS Losses Team that played lowly Southland Nicholls that close could be in contention for an At-Large bid, is there?

[uofmman1122]

Wow - so, you’re saying Nicholls is a REALLY bad Team, huh?

So what does that say about Big Sky #4 SacState…who was barely able to get past a 1 score lead on Nicholls almost into the 4th quarter?

The Hornets probably aren’t total garbage like all of the Southland Teams (except maybe UIW), but there’s no way a 3 FCS Losses Team that played lowly Southland Nicholls that close could be in contention for an At-Large bid, is there?
The score was 38-10 not even 6 minutes of game time later lmao

[FUBeAR]

The score was 38-10 not even 6 minutes of game time later lmao
Wow…so Nicholls just imploded and totally gave away the game to SacState?

It happens - FUBeAR has read here how WCU actually beat Mercer because Mercer forced 6 Turnovers, which really don’t count. So…using that logic, maybe Nicholls actually won that game. FUBeAR will have to check the stats because he never watches games.

https://i.postimg.cc/1z3fr9vC/72142091484-698-F42-B0-0-EF5-4-C1-D-A1-C6-1-D6-F3488-A637.jpg

[uofmman1122]

Wow…so Nicholls just imploded and totally gave away the game to SacState?

It happens - FUBeAR has read here how WCU actually beat Mercer because Mercer forced 6 Turnovers, which really don’t count. So…using that logic, maybe Nicholls actually won that game. FUBeAR will have to check the stats because he never watches games.


I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Nicholls lost because they got blown out in the 4th quarter.

Suggesting the game was close right before it became a blowout is something, though.

Every blowout is close before it turns into a blowout.

[Puddin Tane]

Since everyone is so biased against the powerhouse that is this year's Southland, where do YOU think UIW and Nicholls be appropriately ranked?

i ranked em
uiw-10th
nicholls-23

if uiw plays the freshman qb

they throw the aggie grad transfer back in at qb, I’ll drop em down

i dont even like either school, but they both deserve to be in the playoffs.

[FUBeAR]

Nicholls lost because they got blown out in the 4th quarter.

Suggesting the game was close right before it became a blowout is something, though.

Every blowout is close before it turns into a blowout.
* A 2 score game is NOT a blowout, even if it’s a Big Sky Team defeating a Team from another conference
* If we’re going to ‘count’ the 4th quarter scores which increased SacState’s lead, we can’t, in fairness, call Nicholls’ 4th quarter scores “garbage”
* Suggesting that a game that was not clearly decided until ~10 minutes remained to play was a “pounding” is just so much bluster

…and in other, MUCH MORE MEANINGFUL NEWS…

The Southland’s 2nd best Team beat the Big Sky’s 3rd best Team in the most recent FCS Playoffs.

And … we should also not forget that the Southland’s #1 Team also beat the Big Sky’s #1 Team in the most recent FCS Playoffs.

And…by gosh… while we’re remembering not to forget. Let’s not forget that 1 of those Southland Teams then lost to a SoCon Team the next week and the other Southland Team … the one that beat Big Sky #1 was an eyelash away from losing to SoCon #2 the week before.

So, other than pure braggadocio and bluster, we have no (good) evidence-based reason to crow that either of the 2 best Southland Teams in 2023 would not finish any better than 6th in the Big Sky.

That was FUBeAR’s primary point.

(Let the blustering, braggadocious retorts commence)

The (mis)characterization of the SacSt/Nicholls game as a “pounding” and now a “blowout” was really just a humorous observation…that has since become even more humorous.

[NY Crusader 2010]

One comment - I think Harvard deserves to be higher than NC Central. I think it's possible that Central still deserves to be ranked but the Crimson beat Howard 48-7. And NC Central lost to Howard.

[ElCid]

One comment - I think Harvard deserves to be higher than NC Central. I think it's possible that Central still deserves to be ranked but the Crimson beat Howard 48-7. And NC Central lost to Howard.

One game isn't a season,...but I've been questioning NCCU rank for a while. That they broke into the top 10 was getting on the ridiculous side. I thought they were only a #20+ team considering their SOS. Guess I was probably correct. I still ranked them but they are now hanging on by their fingertips.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Wow…so Nicholls just imploded and totally gave away the game to SacState?

It happens - FUBeAR has read here how WCU actually beat Mercer because Mercer forced 6 Turnovers, which really don’t count. So…using that logic, maybe Nicholls actually won that game. FUBeAR will have to check the stats because he never watches games.

https://i.postimg.cc/1z3fr9vC/72142091484-698-F42-B0-0-EF5-4-C1-D-A1-C6-1-D6-F3488-A637.jpg



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ps.............IS BEIGE........YER FAVORITE COLOR....................AWK?

[ysubigred]

As usual, this thread ends up as a dick measuring contest of Jr. League team fans.

Good way to settle this is in two weeks. Send FU to Brookings. IF FU beats the Bunnies. Then we'll seed and start the playoffs the week after..

SDSU wins season over.. just save time and money..

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[FUBeAR]

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....DO YOU....LIVE...INNA COSTCO...................BRAWK?

ps.............IS BEIGE........YER FAVORITE COLOR....................AWK?
Of course not (1) - FUBeAR lives in a Wal-Mart. Costco is where the rich Bears live…Brandywine type Bears.

Of course not (2) - Beige is the color of Wofford’s helmets…

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[FUBeAR]

As usual, this thread ends up as a dick measuring contest of Jr. League team fans.

Good way to settle this is in two weeks. Send FU to Brookings. IF FU beats the Bunnies. Then we'll seed and start the playoffs the week after..

SDSU wins season over.. just save time and money..
Totally on board with your concept, but you spelled Greenville wrong…

And if you’re ludicrously implying that Furman is a “Jr. League team,” FUATT (not Grease) is the word!

Y’all can bring your happy penguin a$$e$ back down to Greenville too, where you big-talkin’ frozen birds are winless and average losing to 4th most Playoff Appearances (20 … nearly double YSU’s) Furman by a nice 42-23 count.

[Bisonator]

xpopcornx

[ysubigred]

Totally on board with your concept, but you spelled Greenville wrong…

And if you’re ludicrously implying that Furman is a “Jr. League team,” FUATT (not Grease) is the word!

Y’all can bring your happy penguin a$$e$ back down to Greenville too, where you big-talkin’ frozen birds are winless and average losing to 4th most Playoff Appearances (20 … nearly double YSU’s) Furman by a nice 42-23 count.LOL.. the flightless birds would have to make the playoffs to get a chance to come back to Greenville.. An upgrade in a home at home on the regular season schedule would be nice. I'd say FU is a tad bit better than Bobby Morris..

Being 29-8 in playoffs is ok. Unfortunately, one loss was to FU. I was in Germany that year. YSU was still wet behind the ears then. The stat I hate is 4-4 in national championship games .500

AND, Brookings is spelled any way they want. 10-0 defending national champs you all would visit being in the Jr. League..

I was in Greenville 4 weeks ago. Have friends in Anderson their kids all graduated Clemson. We drove by your school, but you all were playing Western Carolina that Saturday. It would have been cool to stop by and check it out. Small world, but my buddy's son graduated from FU last name, Taliaferro. He was in ROTC and now an LTC in Germany.

Good luck in the playoffs..

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[FUBeAR]

LOL.. the flightless birds would have to make the playoffs to get a chance to come back to Greenville.. An upgrade in a home at home on the regular season schedule would be nice. I'd say FU is a tad bit better than Bobby Morris..

Being 29-8 in playoffs is ok. Unfortunately, one loss was to FU. I was in Germany that year. YSU was still wet behind the ears then. The stat I hate is 4-4 in national championship games .500

AND, Brookings is spelled any way they want. 10-0 defending national champs you all would visit being in the Jr. League..

I was in Greenville 4 weeks ago. Have friends in Anderson their kids all graduated Clemson. We drove by your school, but you all were playing Western Carolina that Saturday. It would have been cool to stop by and check it out. Small world, but my buddy's son graduated from FU last name, Taliaferro. He was in ROTC and now an LTC in Germany.

Good luck in the playoffs.. Bobby Morris xlolx

Yeah - Feelin’ ya - 1-2 in National Championship games is embarrassing for this 2k student private school. We expect to get there more often and we expect to win them when we do. Frickin’ GaSou’s Tracy Ham turned into Tom Brady after completing about 7 passes all season and throws a dart right thru FUBeAR’s heart and into an end zone in Idaho as the clock was running out to keep that record from being 2-1…and having a 1-legged Walter Payton Award winner didn’t help against the Griz … so close to 3-0 in Natty’s..,but 1-2 it is…sadly.

And, yeah, the Paladins don’t have quite as strong of a record in our 38 Playoff Games as YSU does in their 37. Maybe we can improve that this season.

Thanks for the well-wishes…but YSU still has a shot at the Playoffs, don’t they? FUBeAR thinks they were right there in some of the Field ‘modeling’ he’s done. No?

[caribbeanhen]

Totally on board with your concept, but you spelled Greenville wrong…

And if you’re ludicrously implying that Furman is a “Jr. League team,” FUATT (not Grease) is the word!

Y’all can bring your happy penguin a$$e$ back down to Greenville too, where you big-talkin’ frozen birds are winless and average losing to 4th most Playoff Appearances (20 … nearly double YSU’s) Furman by a nice 42-23 count.

Why don’t they understand, it’s just a crying shame ….

[ysubigred]

Bobby Morris xlolx

Yeah - Feelin’ ya - 1-2 in National Championship games is embarrassing for this 2k student private school. We expect to get there more often and we expect to win them when we do. Frickin’ GaSou’s Tracy Ham turned into Tom Brady after completing about 7 passes all season and throws a dart right thru FUBeAR’s heart and into an end zone in Idaho as the clock was running out to keep that record from being 2-1…and having a 1-legged Walter Payton Award winner didn’t help against the Griz … so close to 3-0 in Natty’s..,but 1-2 it is…sadly.

And, yeah, the Paladins don’t have quite as strong of a record in our 38 Playoff Games as YSU does in their 37. Maybe we can improve that this season.

Thanks for the well-wishes…but YSU still has a shot at the Playoffs, don’t they? FUBeAR thinks they were right there in some of the Field ‘modeling’ he’s done. No?I don't get why some feel private school is a disadvantage for athletics.. I look at it like high school football. The private schools dominate state championships.. hell, your funding and athletic budget is probably better than most large 1FCS universities. Strange all FUs playoff appearances and YSUs we've only met once. Those GSU teams scuffed up the Guins we're 1-1 against them. Marshall and Appy state also got us. Back in the day, we had to beat Marshall with home field advantage for 1 of the NCs lost 1 there to the Herd also.

Strange most of our playoff/championship losses are to move on 1BCS teams now.

The Guins to make the playoffs will need help.. in conference need NDSU and ISU R to win. The Guins need a good convincing W in Murray. I'm hopeful this will happen, but YSU has to be the worst MVFC in the League Road team in history.

Plus, as I stated above, SIU is getting much love over the Guins even in this forum. They should roll to 7-4.. and IF both teams are 7-4, I feel both team won't go in they'll take SIU as last in and YSU 1st out.

I'm not counting on a playoff spot, but hopeful.

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[ysubigred]

Why don’t they understand, it’s just a crying shame ….Go back to playing with yourself, senor...

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[caribbeanhen]

Go back to playing with yourself, senor...

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With Grease?

We take the pressure and we throw away
Conventionality
belongs do yesterday

[ysubigred]

With Grease?

We take the pressure and we throw away
Conventionality
belongs do yesterdaySure

You sit around and watch the phone
But no one's calling
Call me pathetic, call me what you will
My mother says to get a job
But she don't like the one she's got
When masturbation's lost its fun, you're ****in' lazy...

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[uni88]

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ps.............IS BEIGE........YER FAVORITE COLOR....................AWK?

Based on the rug and the color of the walls, I'd expect there to be doilies on a coffee table and for the "davenport" to be covered in plastic. :D

[FUBeAR]

Based on the rug and the color of the walls, I'd expect there to be doilies on a coffee table and for the "davenport" to be covered in plastic. :D
FUBeAR don’t need doilies. The servants know how to get rid of the beer stein, glass, bottle, can rings.
No Coffee Table. The 3 GrandPups need plenty of room to play.
What color are the walls? FUBeAR is color blind.
What is a davenport? Thought that was just a crappy town in some random run-down flyover state. No?

[uni88]

FUBeAR don’t need doilies. The servants know how to get rid of the beer stein, glass, bottle, can rings.
No Coffee Table. The 3 GrandPups need plenty of room to play.
What color are the walls? FUBeAR is color blind.
What is a davenport? Thought that was just a crappy town in some random run-down flyover state. No?

A davenport is what old people who decorate like you call a sofa/couch.

[FUBeAR]

A davenport is what old people who decorate like you call a sofa/couch.
Nah…this is Davenport, Iowa. I knew it was in some random wasteland…

…and FUBeAR’s only contribution to the decor there are the electronics. Your apparent issue is with Mrs. FUBeAR and, trust FUBeAR, that’s a wildcat with whom you do not wish to tangle!

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/qctimes.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/4d/34d63ad9-043f-5182-b4c5-d3e72e2c74c9/5dd5e62a37fd6.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C840

[uni88]

Nah…this is Davenport, Iowa. I knew it was in some random wasteland…

…and FUBeAR’s only contribution to the decor there are the electronics. Your apparent issue is with Mrs. FUBeAR and, trust FUBeAR, that’s a wildcat with whom you do not wish to tangle!



Do you want me to search for and post images of decay in South Carolina?

From Merriam-Webster:davenportnoun (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/noun)
dav·​en·​port ˈda-vᵊn-ˌpȯrt
(https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/davenport?pronunciation&lang=en_us&dir=d&file=davenp01) ˈda-vᵊm-






Synonyms of davenport
(https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/davenport)

1
: a small compact writing desk






2
: a large upholstered sofa often convertible into a bed

[caribbeanhen]

My grandmother used to call the sofa a Davenport but haven’t heard that term used in a long time

[FUBeAR]

My grandmother used to call the sofa a Davenport but haven’t heard that term used in a long time
Was she from Iowa?

[caribbeanhen]

Was she from Iowa?

absolutely not

[FUBeAR]

absolutely not
Yeah…nobody is

[Gil Dobie]

Do you want me to search for and post images of decay in South Carolina?

From Merriam-Webster:davenportnoun (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/noun)
dav·​en·​port ˈda-vᵊn-ˌpȯrt
(https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/davenport?pronunciation&lang=en_us&dir=d&file=davenp01) ˈda-vᵊm-






Synonyms of davenport
(https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/davenport)

1
: a small compact writing desk






2
: a large upholstered sofa often convertible into a bed






I've seen Deliverance.

[kdinva]

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Furman Paladins
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Montana Grizzlies
5: South Dakota Coyotes
6: Villanova Wildcats
7: Sac State Hornets
8: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
9: Chattanooga Mocs
10: North Dakota State Bison
11: Albany Great Danes
12: Idaho Vandals
13: Western Carolina Catamounts
14: Mercer Bears
15: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
16: Austin Peay Governors
17: Richmond Spiders
18: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
19: Central Arkansas Bears
20: Southern Illinois Salukis
21: Youngstown State Penguins
22: Northern Iowa Panthers
23: Florida A&M Rattlers
24: Incarnate Word Cardinals
25: Harvard Crimson

The Most Significant Win: Central Arkansas Bears
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota Fighting Hawks