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Professor Chaos
December 10th, 2022, 01:41 AM
Kickoff time is 6PM CT on Friday 12/16 and the game will be nationally televised on ESPN2. I added a few more stat categories to the team stats comparison this week for more detail on turnovers, redzone efficiency, sacks, and TFLs.

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TheKingpin28
December 10th, 2022, 01:42 AM
Alright POD, we need you to do your thing cause I'm nervous about UIW.

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dewey
December 10th, 2022, 01:45 AM
Hopefully Friday night lights and 4 quarters to Frisco! Need Tyler Roehl to call a lights put game offensively and control the game.

Dewey

JacksFan40
December 10th, 2022, 01:48 AM
NDSU shouldn’t have a problem running the ball and scoring points, but that UIW offense is going to be the best the Bison have seen this season, and arguably the best they’ve seen in a few years. Will be an exciting game.

Born a Rabbit
December 10th, 2022, 01:59 AM
You guys will run the ball literally at will against UIW. you might not be able to stop them a lot, but i think you will stop them enough

uofmman1122
December 10th, 2022, 01:59 AM
UIW's offense is legit, but their defense is terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible.

Born a Rabbit
December 10th, 2022, 02:19 AM
UIW's offense is legit, but their defense is terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible.

i tell you what is terrible. your description of how terrible their defense is))!!! (joking!!)

by trying to describe their defense you are implying that they play defense. i think there might be a time in the game when the bison must deploy the strategy of taking a knee after running 6 yards, in order to keep their offense on the field and let their defense have some rest

Professor Chaos
December 10th, 2022, 02:26 AM
Little known fact: ESPN's College Gameday showed up the last time this matchup happened:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1n-wKn5CAE

Houndawg
December 10th, 2022, 07:51 AM
Not smart to bet against the Bison playing against an FCS opponent but you can't make any money if you don't pick any upsets, and to upset the Bison you need to be in a shootout. UIW has the kind of team that can win a shootout. I'd take the over and bet on them to cover the spread. At least I would if they weren't playing the Bison in Fargo and they had a little more playoff experience. I voted for the upset anyway because they tend happen to the teams you least expect them to happen to

mmiller_34
December 10th, 2022, 08:06 AM
Alright POD, we need you to do your thing cause I'm nervous about UIW.

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No need to be nervous. We are built different. We will run A gap power all day and win by 20.

#OnBizon

FU_Paladin08
December 10th, 2022, 08:07 AM
It seems UIW’s best defense is scoring a bunch on offense.

Bison56
December 10th, 2022, 08:22 AM
No need to be nervous. We are built different. We will run A gap power all day and win by 20.

#OnBizon


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mmiller_34 again.

Never gets old.xlolx

Daytripper
December 10th, 2022, 08:27 AM
I think the score will be similar to the UIW - Sac State game. Last team to score wins.

dewey
December 10th, 2022, 08:31 AM
This has the making of a high scoring game. The UIW pass game is so quick the Bison pass rush won't get home most times. Throwing 50/50 balls against the Bison cover 2 will allow the safeties to fly over BUT Lindsey is really good. NDSU had better come out with a spy on him (i.e. Dom Jones or a really fast sure tackling OLB).

I am thinking
NDSU 42
UIW 34

Dewey

FU_Paladin08
December 10th, 2022, 10:18 AM
Lindsey is running a lot more in the playoffs. Seems UIW kept that in their back pocket all season as they wore out the scoreboard on lesser teams. QB runs might be the difference for NDSU.

jacksfan29!
December 10th, 2022, 10:31 AM
UIW has no defense. NDSU will control the ball and the clock. UIW will NEED to score on every possession to stay in the game.

Bison Fan in NW MN
December 10th, 2022, 11:57 AM
I think the score will be similar to the UIW - Sac State game. Last team to score wins.


Not a chance.

NDSU plays defense....Sac State doesn't.

AppApp
December 10th, 2022, 12:21 PM
ndsu should be embarrassed that they are even still playing in games like this

Professor Chaos
December 10th, 2022, 12:23 PM
I think the score will be similar to the UIW - Sac State game. Last team to score wins.
NDSU will slow the pace down enough where I'd be very surprised if UIW can put up anywhere near the 66 points they did last night. NDSU's defense is vulnerable though and Lindsey Scott is the ideal type of playmaker that to exploit it.

JacksFan40
December 10th, 2022, 12:49 PM
ndsu should be embarrassed that they are even still playing in games like this
So what should NDSU do instead? Playing in the C-USA is a downgrade from the MVFC, and doesn’t seem like the MWC has come calling yet.

FUBeAR
December 10th, 2022, 01:05 PM
ndsu should be embarrassed that they are even still playing in games like this
Sez the fan of a FBSINO Team that played 1 game this season vs. a SoCon bottom-feeder and another against an even lower Big South bottom-feeder; didn’t even qualify (as 90% of FBS Teams do) to play in 1 of the crappy mid-December Tuesday afternoon bowl games they occasionally play in; and would probably lose to Incarnate Word by 30+.

SeattleCat
December 10th, 2022, 01:29 PM
We're going to take care of business next week in Brookings, you guys take care of business in Fargo and we'll see you in Frisco.

Go Cats

POD Knows
December 10th, 2022, 02:13 PM
Alright POD, we need you to do your thing cause I'm nervous about UIW.

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There is no freaking way NDSU can play with these guys, the entire game will look like the last 4 minutes of the Samford game. NDSU is gonna need a half a dozen tipped ball interceptions to have any hope and our offense is not consistent enough to get in a track meet with somebody

IWU rolls 48 to 35. #BOOKIT. Bet the ranch on that.

POD Knows
December 10th, 2022, 02:15 PM
UIW's offense is legit, but their defense is terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible.
Their defense is ranked higher that Samfords and look how that player out in the Bison game.

ElCid
December 10th, 2022, 02:47 PM
Their defense is ranked higher that Samfords and look how that player out in the Bison game.

Yeah but look at the competition UIW and Samford had. That makes all the difference in ranking. Happy to see you Bookit'd early.

GoCatsGo84
December 10th, 2022, 02:59 PM
I won’t believe NDSU is down until I see it… not scared, just respect. I still think from a resume stand point MSU should have been the 3 seed. But NDSU will NDSU in December.

Professor Chaos
December 10th, 2022, 03:45 PM
I won’t believe NDSU is down until I see it… not scared, just respect. I still think from a resume stand point MSU should have been the 3 seed. But NDSU will NDSU in December.
I think it's tough to find many people that thought NDSU should've been seeded above Montana St. That said I thought Sac St should've been seeded above SDSU also so the semifinal pairings would've been the same anyway.

Professor Chaos
December 10th, 2022, 04:19 PM
Friday it is:

https://twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/1601699803070533632

Professor Chaos
December 10th, 2022, 05:24 PM
Probably no big secret as to what the keys for each team will be in this one. For NDSU I think they need to limit UIW's explosive plays. Make them go on extended drives (by number of plays I mean not time wise, haha) and bank on getting some of those drives to stall out. For UIW I think they need do what Samford did and limit NDSU's ground game so the Bison can't take the air out of the ball and methodically march up and down the field. Both those things are going to be much easier said than done though.

Looking forward to another (rather unexpected) round of Friday night lights... hoping to hear that special tune by Alabama blaring over the Fargodome speakers late in this one - that's always one of the best moments of the year for us fans in attendance. :)

Bison56
December 10th, 2022, 06:08 PM
Going to be a nail biter.

Puddin Tane
December 10th, 2022, 06:09 PM
What surprised me was uiw running as much as they did. They run more than you think.
they’ll have to air it out vs the bison.

i picked em, well..just cuz

Bison Fan in NW MN
December 10th, 2022, 06:45 PM
Going to be a nail biter.



I doubt it.

The Bison offense just needs to do its thing of running the ball and play action pass. UIW gave up over 300 yards rushing last night and the Bison should have no issues running on this team. Grind out drives and score.

Plus the Bison actually play defense. Good enough to have some 3 and outs and pressure that QB.

TheKingpin28
December 10th, 2022, 07:19 PM
There is no freaking way NDSU can play with these guys, the entire game will look like the last 4 minutes of the Samford game. NDSU is gonna need a half a dozen tipped ball interceptions to have any hope and our offense is not consistent enough to get in a track meet with somebody

IWU rolls 48 to 35. #BOOKIT. Bet the ranch on that.You a real one

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70MilesFromCanada
December 10th, 2022, 07:30 PM
There is no freaking way NDSU can play with these guys, the entire game will look like the last 4 minutes of the Samford game. NDSU is gonna need a half a dozen tipped ball interceptions to have any hope and our offense is not consistent enough to get in a track meet with somebody

IWU rolls 48 to 35. #BOOKIT. Bet the ranch on that.

Bizon will be fine. Checking right now to see if Entz has Covid eligibility as running back. Well, probably fullback. Very FULL back.

lionsrking2
December 10th, 2022, 09:08 PM
I doubt it.

The Bison offense just needs to do its thing of running the ball and play action pass. UIW gave up over 300 yards rushing last night and the Bison should have no issues running on this team. Grind out drives and score.

Plus the Bison actually play defense. Good enough to have some 3 and outs and pressure that QB.

I would never bet against the Bison at home, in the playoffs, but I think many of you will be surprised at how talented UIW is on defense. They aren't the most disciplined, or the most gap sound, but they are big, long, disruptive and have a lot of depth. Much better than Samford, and we played them both. Looking forward to watching what should be a great semifinal game.

deez_na
December 10th, 2022, 09:39 PM
I would never bet against the Bison at home, in the playoffs, but I think many of you will be surprised at how talented UIW is on defense. They aren't the most disciplined, or the most gap sound, but they are big, long, disruptive and have a lot of depth. Much better than Samford, and we played them both. Looking forward to watching what should be a great semifinal game.

Defense? Did you mean to say that?

lionsrking2
December 10th, 2022, 09:43 PM
Defense? Did you mean to say that?

Yes I did. Contrary to popular opinion, they do play defense. You will be surprised.

deez_na
December 10th, 2022, 09:52 PM
Yes I did. Contrary to popular opinion, they do play defense. You will be surprised.

Clearly, held sac st to a measily 63 points.

lionsrking2
December 10th, 2022, 09:57 PM
Clearly, held sac st to a measily 63 points.

And? That's a different opponent, on a different day. NDSU isn't Sac State on offense.

deez_na
December 10th, 2022, 10:20 PM
And? That's a different opponent, on a different day. NDSU isn't Sac State on offense.

Only 21 points more than their average, lol. Ndsu also doesn’t run an up tempo offense. Sac scores about 7 points a game more and that’s because they averaged about 25-30 plays more a game. IUW hasn’t went up against a team with a rushing attack and line like NDSU either. Ndsu will wear a team down and punish them with controlling the line of scrimmage.

lionsrking2
December 11th, 2022, 12:27 AM
Only 21 points more than their average, lol. Ndsu also doesn’t run an up tempo offense. Sac scores about 7 points a game more and that’s because they averaged about 25-30 plays more a game. IUW hasn’t went up against a team with a rushing attack and line like NDSU either. Ndsu will wear a team down and punish them with controlling the line of scrimmage.

Well, I just watched NDSU struggle offensively with a team we just played so I have a decent handle on the physicality. We've also played UIW. Don't be surprised if it's more of a struggle moving the ball than you think.

Bison Fan in NW MN
December 11th, 2022, 07:03 AM
Well, I just watched NDSU struggle offensively with a team we just played so I have a decent handle on the physicality. We've also played UIW. Don't be surprised if it's more of a struggle moving the ball than you think.


And you might be correct but I can tell you this. Every single team NDSU plays, that team brings their A game which they should. Sac State runs a totally different offense. Every team knows that NDSU is going to run A gap power between the tackles right at them and most throw bodies in the middle to try and stop it. Samford totally sold out to stop the middle run game and it worked some but NDSU did wear them down. Most of their yards and points came when the Bison went into shutdown mode and started to play prevent defense, that's when the QB and the Samford passing game got their yards.

UIW will probably have some success moving the ball but they need to stop the Bison and I don't think they can on defense. This year's version of the Bison is probably the weakest one during this run but they are still pretty good and have proven that. If the UIW QB is running for 1st downs and extending plays the Bison are in trouble and could definitely lose the game but if the Bison can pound the ball and chew up lock and make UIW press to try and score, then the Bison roll them.

Professor Chaos
December 11th, 2022, 07:04 AM
And? That's a different opponent, on a different day. NDSU isn't Sac State on offense.
Samford's d-line deserves credit for winning a bunch of snaps against the NDSU o-line. I saw more Bison o-lineman blocking in the wrong direction because they got beat than I can recall seeing all year. That was a very poor game by NDSU's most dominant position group and if that continues I don't see their season lasting much longer.

That said Sac St's offense isn't that much better than NDSU's is. NDSU's run game is more potent and they're just as efficient throwing the ball they just do it far less. The one common opponent they had in Montana struggled mightily with the NDSU offense giving up 450 rush yards and 49 points whereas they held Sac St to 180 rush yards and 31 points in OT.

It all comes down to the o-line for the Bison offense. I suspect they bounce back in a big way this week but if the results are similar to last week UIW should beat them since their offense is much more potent than Samford's was with a backup QB.

caribbeanhen
December 11th, 2022, 08:53 AM
IW will have to play an almost perfect game to pull of an upset in the Fargo Dome, they are a super athletic team and I think they make a game of it as the Bison are really taking some hits with injuries. In the end, the Bison will limp back down to Fargo one more time, like a determined old dog that finds his way home.

lionsrking2
December 11th, 2022, 09:36 AM
And you might be correct but I can tell you this. Every single team NDSU plays, that team brings their A game which they should. Sac State runs a totally different offense. Every team knows that NDSU is going to run A gap power between the tackles right at them and most throw bodies in the middle to try and stop it. Samford totally sold out to stop the middle run game and it worked some but NDSU did wear them down. Most of their yards and points came when the Bison went into shutdown mode and started to play prevent defense, that's when the QB and the Samford passing game got their yards.

UIW will probably have some success moving the ball but they need to stop the Bison and I don't think they can on defense. This year's version of the Bison is probably the weakest one during this run but they are still pretty good and have proven that. If the UIW QB is running for 1st downs and extending plays the Bison are in trouble and could definitely lose the game but if the Bison can pound the ball and chew up lock and make UIW press to try and score, then the Bison roll them.

That's my point. Sac State is an up-tempo, diverse offense, with weapons, that is difficult to defend both schematically and from a personnel matchup standpoint. NDSU is the opposite. To defend NDSU, it basically comes down to trench warfare and whether or not you have the personnel to defend the power run game and make them one dimensional. Samford had reasonable success doing it, they just didn't have the juice offensively to match. UIW has better defensive personnel and more depth than Samford, especially in the front seven. If they choose to sell out to stop the run, they are capable of doing it. I don't think they're particularly well-coached and will do some stupid things. They get in trouble when they free lance, get up field and lose gap integrity, which usually happens against spread, tempo teams when they're trying to affect the QB. But NDSU runs at a slow, methodical pace and aren't trying to trick anybody, which plays to UIW's defensive strength IMO.

ming01
December 11th, 2022, 09:36 AM
UIW should have more success than Samford but will easily be held to their lowest point total all season. Bison ball control and running game, plus defense win it. Do need to move the ball more efficiently this week though.

lionsrking2
December 11th, 2022, 09:45 AM
IW will have to play an almost perfect game to pull of an upset in the Fargo Dome, they are a super athletic team and I think they make a game of it as the Bison are really taking some hits with injuries. In the end, the Bison will limp back down to Fargo one more time, like a determined old dog that finds his way home.

I disagree. They don't have to play perfect, they just can't play poorly. The biggest issue most teams have is the environment and getting away from who they are when things go south. UIW has good enough personnel to match up on both sides of the ball. If they can handle the environment, and the moment, they'll be fine and it'll be a great game. If not, it could go like all the others. But UIW is a very mature football team from an age and experience standpoint and I don't see them being intimidated. And they are physical despite the reputation as a spread team. As I've said before, I'm not betting against the Bison at home, in the playoffs, but I do think UIW has a good chance if they play reasonably well.

Professor Chaos
December 11th, 2022, 09:46 AM
That's my point. Sac State is an up-tempo, diverse offense, with weapons, that is difficult to defend both schematically and from a personnel matchup standpoint. NDSU is the opposite. To defend NDSU, it basically comes down to trench warfare and whether or not you have the personnel to defend the power run game and make them one dimensional. Samford had reasonable success doing it, they just didn't have the juice offensively to match. UIW has better defensive personnel and more depth than Samford, especially in the front seven. If they choose to sell out to stop the run, they are capable of doing it. I don't think they're particularly well-coached and will do some stupid things. They get in trouble when they free lance, get up field and lose gap integrity, which usually happens against spread, tempo teams when they're trying to affect the QB. But NDSU runs at a slow, methodical pace and aren't trying to trick anybody, which plays to UIW's defensive strength IMO.
Good points... although I'll counter by saying that every single team the Bison play has that exact same strategy and NDSU still averages nearly 300 rush yards per game at over 6 yards per carry. As to whether UIW has the personnel to stop it we'll have to see. Cam Miller is a very efficient passer but NDSU's OC Tyler Roehl tends to get real stubborn with his 75/25 run-pass mix even when Cam is slicing up defenses through the air (although you can argue that's why Miller is so efficient - teams know that NDSU is still more than likely going to run the ball almost every down).

FUBeAR
December 11th, 2022, 09:55 AM
I disagree. They don't have to play perfect, they just can't play poorly. The biggest issue most teams have is the environment and getting away from who they are when things go south. UIW has good enough personnel to match up on both sides of the ball. If they can handle the environment, and the moment, they'll be fine and it'll be a great game. If not, it could go like all the others. But UIW is a very mature football team from an age and experience standpoint and I don't see them being intimidated. And they are physical despite the reputation as a spread team. As I've said before, I'm not betting against the Bison at home, in the playoffs, but I do think UIW has a good chance if they play reasonably well.Y’know what’s strange…

…now that Samford has played & defeated SLU with their backup R-FR walkon QB AND Samford has played and lost to NDSU with whatever was that mix of injured starting QB & backup R-FR walkon QB AND Furman has played UIW in a most exciting, down to the wire game just as SacState did, SUDDENLY FUBeAR’s assessment of lionsrking2’s Football IQ has jumped by about 50 points.

Can’t ‘splain it, but keep it up lrk2…enjoying reading your stuff…now.

Professor Chaos
December 11th, 2022, 10:16 AM
Team stats comparison added to the first page. UIW's defense is much better statistically than they get credit for I think. Both teams are elite on offense converting on 3rd down - whoever wins that matchup has a big leg up in this one. Surprising to see UIW's penalty numbers so high - hopefully us remaining Bison fan crazies who still show up for these games can get them to add to that on Friday night??? :)

caribbeanhen
December 11th, 2022, 10:40 AM
I disagree. They don't have to play perfect, they just can't play poorly. The biggest issue most teams have is the environment and getting away from who they are when things go south. UIW has good enough personnel to match up on both sides of the ball. If they can handle the environment, and the moment, they'll be fine and it'll be a great game. If not, it could go like all the others. But UIW is a very mature football team from an age and experience standpoint and I don't see them being intimidated. And they are physical despite the reputation as a spread team. As I've said before, I'm not betting against the Bison at home, in the playoffs, but I do think UIW has a good chance if they play reasonably well.

You disagree? Not really... I think we’re pretty close. I said they would need to play an almost perfect game and that means a lot of things you mentioned about managing the environment and keeping heads in the game... that crowd can still be loud and the noise is a big advantage to the home team in Fargo... false starts. I’m not as convinced the IW Defense is going to be able to come up with enough stops, especially 4th quarter time, to beat the Bison in Fargo. It should be a very competitive game I think.

Hammerhead
December 11th, 2022, 10:48 AM
Having to travel two games in a row can have a negative impact on some teams. At least their last game was also on a Friday. I never know what to expect with NDSU this year.

lionsrking2
December 11th, 2022, 11:09 AM
Good points... although I'll counter by saying that every single team the Bison play has that exact same strategy and NDSU still averages nearly 300 rush yards per game at over 6 yards per carry. As to whether UIW has the personnel to stop it we'll have to see. Cam Miller is a very efficient passer but NDSU's OC Tyler Roehl tends to get real stubborn with his 75/25 run-pass mix even when Cam is slicing up defenses through the air (although you can argue that's why Miller is so efficient - teams know that NDSU is still more than likely going to run the ball almost every down).

Yeah but that 300 yards per game is uneven and you have personnel no longer available. I'm not saying UIW will shut you down but they have big, physical bodies inside that are tough to move, long athletic guys on the edge, good LBs, and depth. And I think scheme and tempo matters. They do a lot of things that are unsound that gets them in trouble, but it's usually against offenses that are fast tempo and have a lot going on. Unless you guys change overnight, that's not something they'll have to worry about. The key to the game is how well UIW's OL can hold up, which feeds into how well the Bison secondary can hold up. There's a lot to defend and they have dudes at the skill positions. They are a different animal than Samford.

The Cats
December 11th, 2022, 12:32 PM
North Dakota State

ming01
December 11th, 2022, 12:35 PM
5Dimes opened as a 7.5 favorite for NDSU. Now at 9. O/U of 70.5. Holy ****.

ElCid
December 11th, 2022, 01:41 PM
And you might be correct but I can tell you this. Every single team NDSU plays, that team brings their A game which they should. Sac State runs a totally different offense. Every team knows that NDSU is going to run A gap power between the tackles right at them and most throw bodies in the middle to try and stop it. Samford totally sold out to stop the middle run game and it worked some but NDSU did wear them down. Most of their yards and points came when the Bison went into shutdown mode and started to play prevent defense, that's when the QB and the Samford passing game got their yards.

UIW will probably have some success moving the ball but they need to stop the Bison and I don't think they can on defense. This year's version of the Bison is probably the weakest one during this run but they are still pretty good and have proven that. If the UIW QB is running for 1st downs and extending plays the Bison are in trouble and could definitely lose the game but if the Bison can pound the ball and chew up lock and make UIW press to try and score, then the Bison roll them.

Samford only had 4 possessions in the second half with their normal starter back in. The first possession ended in an interception. The next two ended in scores after 141 yards. I can get that last Samford drive (93 yrds) was due to NDSU prevent, but once the QB change happened NDSU didn't do great in stopping them. Good on the int and forcing a FG but the best NDSU D was in TOP and holding on to the ball for around 12 minutes of the third QTR. That wasn't necessarily wearing them down as much as it was playing keep away with possessions. Great strategy. When we've beaten them, that's how we did it. Doesn't always work, but most of the time it does. I suspect that will be the way they can win this coming week.

lionsrking2
December 11th, 2022, 02:00 PM
You disagree? Not really... I think we’re pretty close. I said they would need to play an almost perfect game and that means a lot of things you mentioned about managing the environment and keeping heads in the game... that crowd can still be loud and the noise is a big advantage to the home team in Fargo... false starts. I’m not as convinced the IW Defense is going to be able to come up with enough stops, especially 4th quarter time, to beat the Bison in Fargo. It should be a very competitive game I think.

I'll agree that we agree to a varying degree. How's that? xdrunkyx

I'm not convinced of anything in this game, either way. I just know UIW is a unique cat when comparing them with past teams from this part of the world that have gone into Fargo and flatlined. One thing they have is swag and I don't think they'll be intimidated by the crowd. Noise could be an issue, we'll have to see. The bigger issue is can the UIW tackles handle the Bison defensive ends and front four pressure in general, and can the Bison keep Lindsey in the pocket? If not, can they stay disciplined when he he gets out on the move? He does a great job keeping his eyes down field and UIW receivers are really good at finding openings when there's chaos. Then you have to worry about him pulling it down and taking it 60. Not to mention Marcus Cooper (former SLU Lion) is a threat. They give you a lot to defend and it takes a lot of mental energy and discipline not to bust. You stuff them a couple of series in a row, you think you've got 'em, then you don't.

Somebody mentioned in another post that back-to-back travel could play a factor and I definitely agree. It's tough enough making one long plane trip in the playoffs, much less two, back-to-back. But UIW had an open date prior to the last regular season game then a first round bye, and they roll a bunch of guys on defense.

TheKingpin28
December 11th, 2022, 02:21 PM
5Dimes opened as a 7.5 favorite for NDSU. Now at 9. O/U of 70.5. Holy ****.Under for the 70.5,

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FU_Paladin08
December 11th, 2022, 02:55 PM
Team stats comparison added to the first page. UIW's defense is much better statistically than they get credit for I think. Both teams are elite on offense converting on 3rd down - whoever wins that matchup has a big leg up in this one. Surprising to see UIW's penalty numbers so high - hopefully us remaining Bison fan crazies who still show up for these games can get them to add to that on Friday night??? :)

Furman’s best (and maybe most consistent) pass play against UIW was PI calls on the outside. That’s their biggest weakness and NDSU should look to exploit it.

I think a similarity between these two teams is their ability to make opposing teams come out of their comfort zone. Defenses try to stop the NDSU run game but can’t sell out all game because it’s built to wear down opponents. They can do it for some time with success, but ultimately have to score points.

The style of play from UIW has other offense try to keep up on the scoreboard and abandon their game plans. That happened to Furman who was rushing 250 yards a game. They didn’t get anywhere near that and it had a huge effect on the game. I have a feeling NDSU will stubbornly stick to the run plan and could go down early (or at least stumble in the first half). It has been shown not very stellar defenses can hold NDSU’s running game in the first half…ahem, Samford. I suspect UIW will score more than Samford and NDSU will have to throw more than they intend to. Maybe that has no effect on the NDSU offense? Maybe it does?

UIW can score points. They won’t score 60, but 40 might be enough on Friday. They are running the QB a lot more in the playoffs. NDSU folks mentioned Samford backup QB running could cause some issues. The UIW kid is running without a leash and will convert 3rd downs with his legs. This is going to be a fantastic game. If either team thinks they will just stick to the script they might miss their trip to Frisco. UIW penalties and a lack of experience in meaningful 2nd half snaps might be an issue. Furman and Sac St found their way back in the 2nd halves to take late leads. NDSU isn’t going to give up a 2nd half lead if they get it.

For some reason I still like UIW in this one. NDSU plays amazing team ball but I’m not voting against Lindsey Scott. He’s a baller and this team reminds me more and more of Armani Edwards App St days.

FUBeAR
December 11th, 2022, 03:03 PM
Hate to give any tips to NDSU, but the bizuns will want to watch Furman’s Def. reel @ UIW in the 2nd half

3rd Quarter - UIW - 11 Rushes for 25 yards, 3 for 8 passing for 3 yards
4th Quarter - UIW - 14 Rushes for 80 yards, 7 of 14 passing for 41 yards
2nd half - UIW - 25 Rushes for 105 yards, 10 of 22 for 44 yards | 47 plays for 149 yards

(this assumes FUBeAR was able to calculate the Play-by-Play stats correctly)

OTOH…The 1st half FU Defensive Reel should be burned, if it hasn’t already been.

Professor Chaos
December 11th, 2022, 03:56 PM
Furman’s best (and maybe most consistent) pass play against UIW was PI calls on the outside. That’s their biggest weakness and NDSU should look to exploit it.

I think a similarity between these two teams is their ability to make opposing teams come out of their comfort zone. Defenses try to stop the NDSU run game but can’t sell out all game because it’s built to wear down opponents. They can do it for some time with success, but ultimately have to score points.

The style of play from UIW has other offense try to keep up on the scoreboard and abandon their game plans. That happened to Furman who was rushing 250 yards a game. They didn’t get anywhere near that and it had a huge effect on the game. I have a feeling NDSU will stubbornly stick to the run plan and could go down early (or at least stumble in the first half). It has been shown not very stellar defenses can hold NDSU’s running game in the first half…ahem, Samford. I suspect UIW will score more than Samford and NDSU will have to throw more than they intend to. Maybe that has no effect on the NDSU offense? Maybe it does?

UIW can score points. They won’t score 60, but 40 might be enough on Friday. They are running the QB a lot more in the playoffs. NDSU folks mentioned Samford backup QB running could cause some issues. The UIW kid is running without a leash and will convert 3rd downs with his legs. This is going to be a fantastic game. If either team thinks they will just stick to the script they might miss their trip to Frisco. UIW penalties and a lack of experience in meaningful 2nd half snaps might be an issue. Furman and Sac St found their way back in the 2nd halves to take late leads. NDSU isn’t going to give up a 2nd half lead if they get it.

For some reason I still like UIW in this one. NDSU plays amazing team ball but I’m not voting against Lindsey Scott. He’s a baller and this team reminds me more and more of Armani Edwards App St days.
If there's one thing I'm sure of it's that NDSU OC Tyler Roehl will not go away from the run game... I don't know if there's a more stubborn OC in the nation when it comes to that. It allowed SDSU to get back into the game earlier this season in Fargo when NDSU took control in the first half by being diverse on offense.

FU_Paladin08
December 11th, 2022, 03:58 PM
Hate to give any tips to NDSU, but the bizuns will want to watch Furman’s Def. reel @ UIW in the 2nd half

3rd Quarter - UIW - 11 Rushes for 25 yards, 3 for 8 passing for 3 yards
4th Quarter - UIW - 14 Rushes for 80 yards, 7 of 14 passing for 41 yards
2nd half - UIW - 25 Rushes for 105 yards, 10 of 22 for 44 yards | 47 plays for 149 yards

(this assumes FUBeAR was able to calculate the Play-by-Play stats correctly)

OTOH…The 1st half FU Defensive Reel should be burned, if it hasn’t already been.

well, if you’re gonna give up close to 500 yards in one half of football it’s not bad to only give up 28 points. So there’s something to that first half film, I just don’t know what to make of it.

Bison Fan in NW MN
December 11th, 2022, 04:00 PM
Samford only had 4 possessions in the second half with their normal starter back in. The first possession ended in an interception. The next two ended in scores after 141 yards. I can get that last Samford drive (93 yrds) was due to NDSU prevent, but once the QB change happened NDSU didn't do great in stopping them. Good on the int and forcing a FG but the best NDSU D was in TOP and holding on to the ball for around 12 minutes of the third QTR. That wasn't necessarily wearing them down as much as it was playing keep away with possessions. Great strategy. When we've beaten them, that's how we did it. Doesn't always work, but most of the time it does. I suspect that will be the way they can win this coming week.



Football vs Samford on 12/9/2022 - Box Score - NDSU (gobison.com) (https://gobison.com/sports/football/stats/2022/samford/boxscore/15998)

Stats do not lie.

When the Bison went up 24-0 towards the end of the 3rd quarter, they went into their prevent shell coverage.

Samford got 234 yards out of their 336 total in that worthless defense the Bison run. Coaches say that is what they do. Sit back in their Tampa-2 and keep everything in front of them.

Ya, it looks like the Samford offense really moved the ball on the Bison. They didn't until the prevent crap was started. There was no time in that game that I was thinking Samford is going to win this.

SUPharmacist
December 11th, 2022, 07:55 PM
Ya, it looks like the Samford offense really moved the ball on the Bison. They didn't until the prevent crap was started. There was no time in that game that I was thinking Samford is going to win this.

This is very much true, but UIW is a better offense than Samford. If our coaches do their job it should be fine, but that is always an open question for Entz and crew. I think this team that looks less talented than past iterations of the bison, may be more talented than we think and winning despite average coaching. I would not expect them to be where they are after watching some of these games, but conversely looking at the AZ and SDSU games I also feel they easily could have been undefeated right now.

Bison Fan in NW MN
December 12th, 2022, 07:45 AM
This is very much true, but UIW is a better offense than Samford. If our coaches do their job it should be fine, but that is always an open question for Entz and crew. I think this team that looks less talented than past iterations of the bison, may be more talented than we think and winning despite average coaching. I would not expect them to be where they are after watching some of these games, but conversely looking at the AZ and SDSU games I also feel they easily could have been undefeated right now.


You're probably right in saying they are probably more talented than we think but they sure haven't shown it for 4 quarters yet. Every game they show some brilliance then crappy play the next series. If they ever put a 4 quarter game together, no team will beat them. But I doubt they will with the deficiencies in this team and injuries.

For sure the Bison should have won both of those games (AZ and SDSU) but coaching hamstringed the team in both of those losses.

This game will be interesting. Will the coaches leave a LB to "spy" the QB? Crank up the pass rush? Sit back in their Tampa-2 and make UIW earn all of their yards/points? Blitz more? I'm sure UIW will look at what Samford did with their run blitzing and throwing bodies in the middle to try and stop the run and do the same kind of thing.

If Williams cannot play that will hurt. He is a big power back that is perfect for A gap power, the rest of the RBs are more scat backs. OL needs to bring their A game and open up some holes and pass protect.

dewey
December 12th, 2022, 07:46 AM
well, if you’re gonna give up close to 500 yards in one half of football it’s not bad to only give up 28 points. So there’s something to that first half film, I just don’t know what to make of it.

I 100% agree with you PC. TR reminds me of Tim Polaseck, former NDSU OC. He was a bash your head against the wall type of guy.

The key to beat NDSU is very simple. Stack the box with and play 1 on 1 on the outside.

Dewey

caribbeanhen
December 12th, 2022, 08:12 AM
I'll agree that we agree to a varying degree. How's that? xdrunkyx

I'm not convinced of anything in this game, either way. I just know UIW is a unique cat when comparing them with past teams from this part of the world that have gone into Fargo and flatlined. One thing they have is swag and I don't think they'll be intimidated by the crowd. Noise could be an issue, we'll have to see. The bigger issue is can the UIW tackles handle the Bison defensive ends and front four pressure in general, and can the Bison keep Lindsey in the pocket? If not, can they stay disciplined when he he gets out on the move? He does a great job keeping his eyes down field and UIW receivers are really good at finding openings when there's chaos. Then you have to worry about him pulling it down and taking it 60. Not to mention Marcus Cooper (former SLU Lion) is a threat. They give you a lot to defend and it takes a lot of mental energy and discipline not to bust. You stuff them a couple of series in a row, you think you've got 'em, then you don't.

Somebody mentioned in another post that back-to-back travel could play a factor and I definitely agree. It's tough enough making one long plane trip in the playoffs, much less two, back-to-back. But UIW had an open date prior to the last regular season game then a first round bye, and they roll a bunch of guys on defense.

good stuff LK2

one more thought, Because Incarnate Word is explosive and scores so quick and the Bison are probably going to score on longer sustained drives, keeping that IW defense on the field much longer and wearing them down. Let’s see how that IW Defense is looking late in the game.

Only Bison playoff loss at the Fargo Dome during this run was to a pretty special JMU team that played Defense.

Gil Dobie
December 12th, 2022, 08:19 AM
Hope the Bison Dbacks are working on their receiving skills. That could be the difference in the game.

Bison Fan in NW MN
December 12th, 2022, 03:20 PM
McFeely: You might not want to miss Incarnate Word's offensive circus - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports (https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/mcfeely-you-might-not-want-to-miss-incarnate-words-offensive-circus)

Another Friday, another prolific offense in FCS playoffs for Bison defense - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports (https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/another-friday-another-prolific-offense-in-fcs-playoffs-for-bison-defense)


Good! Bring on UIW!

FUBeAR
December 12th, 2022, 03:37 PM
McFeely: You might not want to miss Incarnate Word's offensive circus - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports (https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/mcfeely-you-might-not-want-to-miss-incarnate-words-offensive-circus)

Another Friday, another prolific offense in FCS playoffs for Bison defense - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports (https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/another-friday-another-prolific-offense-in-fcs-playoffs-for-bison-defense)


Good! Bring on UIW!
From the article…

“These amateur eyes saw this in watching the game: Incarnate Word's offense is better than Samford's by a significant margin, but its defense is not as good as the Bulldogs'.”

FWIW, FUBeAR would modify that to…

“These experienced eyes have seen this in watching these Teams: Incarnate Word's offense is better than Samford's was with their backup R-FR walk-on or injured starting QB’s, and its defense is as good or better up front than the Bulldogs', though not as good or experienced on the backend.”

Reckon if those folks at Buffalo Wild Wings are familiar with the adage, “Be careful what you wish for…”???

gofurman
December 12th, 2022, 03:48 PM
I apologize if posted earlier. Probably was. I’m a little surprised that NDSU is a NINE point favorite. I know. I know. They always win but Samford covered (barely by a point) and many here think this will be a tough game. Mine seems a little high for a game I see as close.

That said I’m Kinda pulling for NDSU as I’m tired of all this Lindsey Scott and UIW junk. It’s a TEAM GAME. And NDSU pulls guys in as freshman (some VERY talented guys like Trey Lance but they were NDSU guys all along) and then DEVELOPS them. Which, in many peoples view, is what makes FCS so great. Wouldn’t mind seeing Scott and colleagues walk off the field having been KILLED. Problem is dang if they didn’t catch NDSU missing about 9 starters I swear.

Interesting that the UIW coach is already spending 2 days a week or so over at Texas state! Eventually that has to hurt UIW. that would piss me off if I were a UIW player

gofurman
December 12th, 2022, 03:49 PM
I apologize if posted earlier. Probably was. I’m a little surprised that NDSU is a NINE point favorite. I know. I know. They always win but Samford covered (barely by a point) and many here think this will be a tough game. 9 seems a little high for a game I see as close.

That said I’m Kinda pulling for NDSU as I’m tired of all this Lindsey Scott and UIW junk. It’s a TEAM GAME. And NDSU pulls guys in as freshman (some VERY talented guys like Trey Lance but they were NDSU guys all along) and then DEVELOPS them. Which, in many peoples view, is what makes FCS so great. Wouldn’t mind seeing Scott and colleagues walk off the field having been KILLED. Problem is dang if they didn’t catch NDSU missing about 9 starters I swear.

Interesting that the UIW coach is already spending 2 days a week or so over at Texas state! Eventually that has to hurt UIW. that would piss me off if I were a UIW player

Sorry on phone. Repeat post … had to hurry. Lol

lionsrking2
December 12th, 2022, 03:55 PM
From the article…

“These amateur eyes saw this in watching the game: Incarnate Word's offense is better than Samford's by a significant margin, but its defense is not as good as the Bulldogs'.”

FWIW, FUBeAR would modify that to…

“These experienced eyes have seen this in watching these Teams: Incarnate Word's offense is better than Samford's was with their backup R-FR walk-on or injured starting QB’s, and its defense is as good or better up front than the Bulldogs', though not as good or experienced on the backend.”

Reckon if those folks at Buffalo Wild Wings are familiar with the adage, “Be careful what you wish for…”???

We played both UIW and Samford. UIW has far better talent on both sides of the ball. It's not close. We played about as well as we could play to score 41 and beat UIW on the last play, and about as poorly as we could play to only score 42 and lose to Samford in OT. We should have have scored at least two more times in regulation and fumbled in the end zone in OT. They were terrible on D.

McNeese75
December 12th, 2022, 04:01 PM
We all pretty well know it won't happen, BUT, it is not beyond the realm of possibilty that UIW cranks that engine up and boat races the Bison faster than they can retaliate. That would require some turnovers and errors on the part of the Bison which could also happen. Of course the Bison could shut them down and drop 40 on them as well.

Looking forward to this one

FUBeAR
December 12th, 2022, 04:09 PM
We played both UIW and Samford. UIW has far better talent on both sides of the ball. It's not close. We played about as well as we could play to score 41 and beat UIW on the last play, and about as poorly as we could play to only score 42 and lose to Samford in OT. We should have have scored at least two more times in regulation and fumbled in the end zone in OT. They were terrible on D.LOL

“The Team we beat is far better than the Team we lost to. I swear!”

FUBeAR hereby rescinds his comment about lrk2 having added 50 points to his Football IQ and now sees it as 50 points lower than even his original assessment.

lionsrking2
December 12th, 2022, 04:11 PM
LOL

“The Team we beat is far better than the Team we lost to. I swear!”

FUBeAR hereby rescinds his comment about lrk2 having added 50 points to his Football IQ and now sees it as 50 points lower than even his original assessment.

Yes

ElCid
December 12th, 2022, 06:46 PM
LOL

“The Team we beat is far better than the Team we lost to. I swear!”


This is really funny.

gofurman
December 12th, 2022, 06:48 PM
Who all is out for NDSU and what position do they play?

Luepke FB (position right?)
I think it’s like 7 guys 🙁

Anyone out for UIW??

Professor Chaos
December 12th, 2022, 08:18 PM
Who all is out for NDSU and what position do they play?

Luepke FB (position right?)
I think it’s like 7 guys 🙁

Anyone out for UIW??
There's a laundry list of guys out for the year including Luepke:
C Jalen Sundelll
OT Mason Miller
TE Noah Gindorff
DT Eli Mostaert (although he apparently has a chance to come back - potentially even this week)
DE Jake Kava
WR Raja Nelson (this isn't confirmed but his injury last week looked bad)

Then there's the guys who have more minor injuries and are questionable for Friday which include:
RB Tamerick Williams
DE Spencer Waege
LB Luke Weerts
QB Cole Payton

Gil Dobie
December 12th, 2022, 08:40 PM
There's a laundry list of guys out for the year including Luepke:
C Jalen Sundelll
OT Mason Miller
TE Noah Gindorff
DT Eli Mostaert (although he apparently has a chance to come back - potentially even this week)
DE Jake Kava
WR Raja Nelson (this isn't confirmed but his injury last week looked bad)

Then there's the guys who have more minor injuries and are questionable for Friday which include:
RB Tamerick Williams
DE Spencer Waege
LB Luke Weerts
QB Cole Payton

And 3 recent transfers that saw action.

The Yo Show
December 12th, 2022, 09:45 PM
This UIW team is much like last years team, but arguably even better. The keys to victory against them is to run the ball and control the clock. Something the Bison know how to do quite well. Last year, YSU got into a shootout with UIW and beat them in OT... which took a minor miracle to even happen with jaleel making a huge run to get into FG range with less than a minute to tie it up. Was a crazy game, they wouldn't stop passing and we wouldn't stop running (but wouldn't pass at all). Jaleel had 242 yards on 29 carries with 2 TDs that game. The key here will be actually playing keep away from their offense with a potent grind the clock rushing attack. I have high confidence the Bison can accomplish that given that is the exact style of play NDSU has. Will be a good game, the scary thing is this UIW team can score in a hurry so the defense will need to really get stops.

Can anyone tell me has UIW ever played at the Fargo dome before?

caribbeanhen
December 12th, 2022, 09:54 PM
This UIW team is much like last years team, but arguably even better. The keys to victory against them is to run the ball and control the clock. Something the Bison know how to do quite well. Last year, YSU got into a shootout with UIW and beat them in OT... which took a minor miracle to even happen with jaleel making a huge run to get into FG range with less than a minute to tie it up. Was a crazy game, they wouldn't stop passing and we wouldn't stop running (but wouldn't pass at all). Jaleel had 242 yards on 29 carries with 2 TDs that game. The key here will be actually playing keep away from their offense with a potent grind the clock rushing attack. I have high confidence the Bison can accomplish that given that is the exact style of play NDSU has. Will be a good game, the scary thing is this UIW team can score in a hurry so the defense will need to really get stops.

Can anyone tell me has UIW ever played at the Fargo dome before?

good points

see post # 67 on this thread

dewey
December 12th, 2022, 10:10 PM
Can anyone tell me has UIW ever played at the Fargo dome before?

UIW played in Fargo in 2014 as the opponent when NDSU hosted ESPN College GameDay for the 2nd time. There wouldn't be any players remaining and I dou t too many coaches are left over too.

See post #8 in this thread.

Dewey

mvemjsunpx
December 12th, 2022, 10:29 PM
UIW played in Fargo in 2014 as the opponent when NDSU hosted ESPN College GameDay for the 2nd time. There wouldn't be any players remaining and I dou t too many coaches are left over too.

See post #8 in this thread.

Dewey

Interestingly enough, UIW also played Sac State that year (lost 49-13 at home).

The Yo Show
December 12th, 2022, 10:36 PM
good points

see post # 67 on this thread

Thanks I missed that post of yours. I agree if UIW can play some defense and stop the NDSU rushing attack, that will be the key to winning for them

The Yo Show
December 12th, 2022, 10:37 PM
UIW played in Fargo in 2014 as the opponent when NDSU hosted ESPN College GameDay for the 2nd time. There wouldn't be any players remaining and I dou t too many coaches are left over too.

See post #8 in this thread.

Dewey

Somehow I missed that despite scrolling past. Well I was gonna say usually first time visitors to the dome don't do well. Although, given they only have been there once and almost 10 years ago I am not sure that will help any for this game.

Professor Chaos
December 13th, 2022, 06:16 AM
Somehow I missed that despite scrolling past. Well I was gonna say usually first time visitors to the dome don't do well. Although, given they only have been there once and almost 10 years ago I am not sure that will help any for this game.
Invariably each time a new team comes to the Fargodome in the playoffs we hear "they'll be prepared... the noise/atmosphere won't affect them". I've heard tactics from practicing in the basketball arena with speakers blaring to having the band blast them during an outdoor practice. Sometimes they're right and they handle the crowd noise well - many times they're not. The biggest crowd UIW has played in front of this year was Nevada with around 14k (although a playoff crowd of 13,722 was reported in Sacramento last week which was probably more butts in seats than Nevada's 14k reported regular season attendance) and they crushed Nevada so I'm assuming that crowd was church like. Maybe they can take the crowd out of it on Friday as well but if they don't things could snowball in a hurry because they'll have challenges with communication they haven't had to deal with yet this year. Regardless, I'm ready to do some more yelling. :)

FU_Paladin08
December 13th, 2022, 07:00 AM
PC, a question on that crowd noise. Looking at the other thread, NDSU hasn’t been close to a season avg for attendance in the playoffs. I don’t understand why these aren’t standing room only games in the Fargodome? I assume the 10-12k that have been coming are devout and very loud so maybe the others don’t matter?

dewey
December 13th, 2022, 07:06 AM
For those of you that like to listen to press conferences with the coaches here is NDSU HC Matt Entz from yesterday.

https://youtu.be/3bhg6JH2hTk

Dewey

dewey
December 13th, 2022, 07:09 AM
Invariably each time a new team comes to the Fargodome in the playoffs we hear "they'll be prepared... the noise/atmosphere won't affect them". I've heard tactics from practicing in the basketball arena with speakers blaring to having the band blast them during an outdoor practice. Sometimes they're right and they handle the crowd noise well - many times they're not. The biggest crowd UIW has played in front of this year was Nevada with around 14k (although a playoff crowd of 13,722 was reported in Sacramento last week which was probably more butts in seats than Nevada's 14k reported regular season attendance) and they crushed Nevada so I'm assuming that crowd was church like. Maybe they can take the crowd out of it on Friday as well but if they don't things could snowball in a hurry because they'll have challenges with communication they haven't had to deal with yet this year. Regardless, I'm ready to do some more yelling. :)

I was shocked earlier this year when SDSU had 5 false start penalties in the 1st half. Granted the team hadn't been to Fargo since 2018 but the HC should have been well aware.

I hope this semifinal game is sold out and loud. Friday night lights, 4 quarters to Frisco. What more do you want?

Dewey

Bison Fan in NW MN
December 13th, 2022, 07:14 AM
NDSU has the defense so slow this offense down and the perfect offense to keep them off the field. Most of the injuries have been on the offensive side of the ball and the defense has been getting much better, especially the interior line.

Professor Chaos
December 13th, 2022, 07:59 AM
PC, a question on that crowd noise. Looking at the other thread, NDSU hasn’t been close to a season avg for attendance in the playoffs. I don’t understand why these aren’t standing room only games in the Fargodome? I assume the 10-12k that have been coming are devout and very loud so maybe the others don’t matter?
There's a very complicated answer to that I could give but the simplest answer is fans are spoiled and/or bored. It's tough to understand from outside of the program I'm sure and, to be honest, I didn't understand it when it first became evident probably about the 2017 playoffs or so.... but I quit getting frustrated by it a few years ago because, like you said, those that do show up are the noisemakers. That's pretty evident if you were there for the regular season finale against UND (which had a reported attendance of 18,806) and the first playoff game against Montana (which had a reported attendance of 12,929). If anything the crowd was louder for the Montana game IMO.

That's not to say the old playoff crowds of 18k+ weren't louder than these ones more recent ones are (they were - the Georgia Southern semifinal in 2012 was the pinnacle). There are silver linings such as smaller lines going in and lighter traffic leaving the game but I'd love to see the Fargodome sold out again for a playoff game. I highly doubt we get there this week though. For last year's semi we only had about 16.5k in reported attendance and that was with JMU coming to town in a semifinal home game all us Bison fans expected to get (unlike this year). I'm hoping for at least 15k this week but that'll be a raucous 15k given the circumstances.

GoCatsGo84
December 13th, 2022, 09:48 AM
Ironically it seems NDSU is struggling against the run and does well against the pass game. So this will be a hell of a game. Both semifinals feature great teams and hopefully the games showcase what the fans are looking for.

NDSU us hard to bet against in the dome…

FU_Paladin08
December 13th, 2022, 11:30 AM
Looking back at the Sac St/UIW game and Sac St did what you’d want to do against the UIW offense: kept them off the field and had them rush more than pass. Sac St had the ball for 17 more mins and UIW rushed more than they threw! I think this UIW offense seems to be perfectly happy running if they have to, or throwing if the have to. It’ll be interesting to see what NDSU decides to commit to, if they can stop both, or if they can just frustrate the UIW offense to turn the ball over. They go for a lot of 4th downs which has them vulnerable to leaving a lot of points of the scoreboard when stopped.

Bison Fan in NW MN
December 13th, 2022, 11:37 AM
Looking back at the Sac St/UIW game and Sac St did what you’d want to do against the UIW offense: kept them off the field and had them rush more than pass. Sac St had the ball for 17 more mins and UIW rushed more than they threw! I think this UIW offense seems to be perfectly happy running if they have to, or throwing if the have to. It’ll be interesting to see what NDSU decides to commit to, if they can stop both, or if they can just frustrate the UIW offense to turn the ball over. They go for a lot of 4th downs which has them vulnerable to leaving a lot of points of the scoreboard when stopped.


Interesting takes and agree but one thing is for sure: NDSU's defense is infinitely better than what Sac State put on the field.

caribbeanhen
December 13th, 2022, 11:51 AM
I watched several Nichols State games when Scott was there, he had a dynamic WR in Dixon like he does now in Darion Chafin. If I was the Bison, Chafin would scare me... dynamo

Also if memory serves, Scott didn't play the last few games at Nichols State...not sure why. My memory could be confused with RB Gumbs but one of those Nichols State stars was out towards the end of season

SpreadTheWord
December 13th, 2022, 12:42 PM
UIW played in Fargo in 2014 as the opponent when NDSU hosted ESPN College GameDay for the 2nd time. There wouldn't be any players remaining and I dou t too many coaches are left over too.

See post #8 in this thread.

Dewey

Not a single coach remains from that 2014 team. (Thank God!)

SpreadTheWord
December 13th, 2022, 01:00 PM
I watched several Nichols State games when Scott was there, he had a dynamic WR in Dixon like he does now in Darion Chafin. If I was the Bison, Chafin would scare me... dynamo

Also if memory serves, Scott didn't play the last few games at Nichols State...not sure why. My memory could be confused with RB Gumbs but one of those Nichols State stars was out towards the end of season

He got injured in the first game against UIW last season and was not fully healthy the remainder of the season.

caribbeanhen
December 13th, 2022, 02:01 PM
He got injured in the first game against UIW last season and was not fully healthy the remainder of the season.

Thank you got that, he still managed to pass for over 2000 yards in 2021

http://hosted.stats.com/cfb/players.asp?id=263449&team=2539

lionsrking2
December 13th, 2022, 02:33 PM
Thank you got that, he still managed to pass for over 2000 yards in 2021

http://hosted.stats.com/cfb/players.asp?id=263449&team=2539

There's more to it than an injury.

skinny_uncle
December 13th, 2022, 02:52 PM
The UIW offense can be scary at times. The Bison will have their hands full.

FUBeAR
December 13th, 2022, 03:16 PM
UIW had 4 pre-snap penalties in their game vs. Furman…at home…in a relatively quiet stadium.

They will need to have completely figured that issue out or they won’t be able to get a single snap off in the FargoDome. FUBeAR expects this bizuns semifinal crowd to live up to past years in terms of impacting the visiting Team.

lionsrking2
December 13th, 2022, 04:01 PM
UIW had 4 pre-snap penalties in their game vs. Furman…at home…in a relatively quiet stadium.

They will need to have completely figured that issue out or they won’t be able to get a single snap off in the FargoDome. FUBeAR expects this bizuns semifinal crowd to live up to past years in terms of impacting the visiting Team.
Crowd noise isn’t the reason they had false starts. Having open dates two of the previous three weeks and lack of timing likely had more to do with presnap issues vs Furman. They use claps and can go silent count if they have to. I would think the biggest concern is blocking the Bison defensive ends. UIW is sloppy in general but have the explosiveness to overcome poor down and distance. Margin for error is much smaller this week.

POD Knows
December 13th, 2022, 04:13 PM
UIW had 4 pre-snap penalties in their game vs. Furman…at home…in a relatively quiet stadium.

They will need to have completely figured that issue out or they won’t be able to get a single snap off in the FargoDome. FUBeAR expects this bizuns semifinal crowd to live up to past years in terms of impacting the visiting Team.
I don’t think a 5 yard penalty bothers these guys very much.

SpreadTheWord
December 13th, 2022, 04:29 PM
Crowd noise isn’t the reason they had false starts. Having open dates two of the previous three weeks and lack of timing likely had more to do with presnap issues vs Furman. They use claps and can go silent count if they have to. I would think the biggest concern is blocking the Bison defensive ends. UIW is sloppy in general but have the explosiveness to overcome poor down and distance. Margin for error is much smaller this week.

And most of those false starts were from trying to go too fast that some of the receivers weren't set yet. They'll have it figured out come Friday.

gofurman
December 13th, 2022, 06:01 PM
X

caribbeanhen
December 13th, 2022, 06:20 PM
There's more to it than an injury.

I figured so

gofurman
December 13th, 2022, 06:35 PM
I figured so


Me too. Scott may be a great kid - we’ve had this discussion - but I’ve heard his time at Nicholls had more going …

- - - Updated - - -

my MAIN POINT ———
I actually think UIW is willing to ‘ACCEPT’ a certain amount of penalties in the ‘net benefit’ of their system. Not saying they like penalties. But Bobby Bowden - I THINK it was him - once commented on something similar. He was willing to accept a few penalties of the handsy PI type if they also probably got away with some (this is EXACTLY a UIW thing). It’s tough on the refs. Regarding PI do they call it every time and the crowd gets bored? Personally, I think it’s an easy answer. YES you call it EVERY time and thus make them stop! That’s your job. Like a police officer. If speed limit 55 every time someone hits 70 on radar gun… PULL THEM. If it’s an obvious PI. CALL IT. Anyway I think UIW is of the Bowden mantra because they definitely held and PI on Furman recvrs. And got called on some and got away with some. And their coach didn’t seem too upset on most … thus my theory he allows it some. And that’s back on the refs just never seen a team get so handsy with receivers. Not sure if someone spoke to refs at our game at half time but UIW had several PI calls in second half.

NDSU coaches would be smart to note this tendency to refs Pre-game !!

Also when you run at the pre snap pace that UIW runs you are going to get a few pre snap penalties. I think they are willing to live with that too. Though I suspect those penalties are more bothersome to the UIW coach as they have been running this all year and to still get pre snap penalties like that is usually different than PI which is a foul of effort and aggression. Pre snap is just not doing things right

Interesting tidbit.
We all know who wins FCS Tities?. NDSU. Running the ball and DEFENSE.
Who wins FBS titles. Again teams with DEFENSE. UGA (may do it twice). Clemson. Bama

Nowhere do you see Oregon etc. Eventually teams that fly high on O without a great D “generally” lose…. UIW is great. Hear me on that.

But UIW was within a minute of losing to both Furman and Sac State. Furman needed a little more O. Sac state really needed more D - Sac State clearly from thr west coast huh? But honestly Sac State was the better team but had a negative 2 turnover ratio (I think) including a scoop and score for UIW …. And it still took UIW to make a great catch to win even with the positive turnover ratio/ scoop and score. If Sac State just holds on to the ball they win.

UIW may win it all but would definitely be an exception

i never thought I would feel sorry for NDSU but they have an inordinate (8? Key players!!!!) amount of injuries.

***Does UIW have any starters out??? It would be shocking if they do not. Anyone know?

gofurman
December 13th, 2022, 07:37 PM
There's a laundry list of guys out for the year including Luepke:
C Jalen Sundelll
OT Mason Miller
TE Noah Gindorff
DT Eli Mostaert (although he apparently has a chance to come back - potentially even this week)
DE Jake Kava
WR Raja Nelson (this isn't confirmed but his injury last week looked bad)

Then there's the guys who have more minor injuries and are questionable for Friday which include:
RB Tamerick Williams
DE Spencer Waege
LB Luke Weerts
QB Cole Payton

clearly Waege would really help v UIW.

Bison Fan in NW MN
December 13th, 2022, 08:33 PM
Me too. Scott may be a great kid - we’ve had this discussion - but I’ve heard his time at Nicholls had more going …

- - - Updated - - -

my MAIN POINT ———
I actually think UIW is willing to ‘ACCEPT’ a certain amount of penalties in the ‘net benefit’ of their system. Not saying they like penalties. But Bobby Bowden - I THINK it was him - once commented on something similar. He was willing to accept a few penalties of the handsy PI type if they also probably got away with some (this is EXACTLY a UIW thing). It’s tough on the refs. Regarding PI do they call it every time and the crowd gets bored? Personally, I think it’s an easy answer. YES you call it EVERY time and thus make them stop! That’s your job. Like a police officer. If speed limit 55 every time someone hits 70 on radar gun… PULL THEM. If it’s an obvious PI. CALL IT. Anyway I think UIW is of the Bowden mantra because they definitely held and PI on Furman recvrs. And got called on some and got away with some. And their coach didn’t seem too upset on most … thus my theory he allows it some. And that’s back on the refs just never seen a team get so handsy with receivers. Not sure if someone spoke to refs at our game at half time but UIW had several PI calls in second half.

NDSU coaches would be smart to note this tendency to refs Pre-game !!

Also when you run at the pre snap pace that UIW runs you are going to get a few pre snap penalties. I think they are willing to live with that too. Though I suspect those penalties are more bothersome to the UIW coach as they have been running this all year and to still get pre snap penalties like that is usually different than PI which is a foul of effort and aggression. Pre snap is just not doing things right

Interesting tidbit.
We all know who wins FCS Tities?. NDSU. Running the ball and DEFENSE.
Who wins FBS titles. Again teams with DEFENSE. UGA (may do it twice). Clemson. Bama

Nowhere do you see Oregon etc. Eventually teams that fly high on O without a great D “generally” lose…. UIW is great. Hear me on that.

But UIW was within a minute of losing to both Furman and Sac State. Furman needed a little more O. Sac state really needed more D - Sac State clearly from thr west coast huh? But honestly Sac State was the better team but had a negative 2 turnover ratio (I think) including a scoop and score for UIW …. And it still took UIW to make a great catch to win even with the positive turnover ratio/ scoop and score. If Sac State just holds on to the ball they win.

UIW may win it all but would definitely be an exception

i never thought I would feel sorry for NDSU but they have an inordinate (8? Key players!!!!) amount of injuries.

***Does UIW have any starters out??? It would be shocking if they do not. Anyone know?


NDSU's offense has taken the brunt of the injuries. The defense is playing its best football right now.

I'll take NDSU's sound defense over video game offense any day of the week.

FU_Paladin08
December 13th, 2022, 09:12 PM
And most of those false starts were from trying to go too fast that some of the receivers weren't set yet. They'll have it figured out come Friday.

I think a few of those were even before the officials were set. Those didn’t happen against Sac St so it seems they worked on it.

Bisonoline
December 13th, 2022, 09:19 PM
And most of those false starts were from trying to go too fast that some of the receivers weren't set yet. They'll have it figured out come Friday.

After playing 12-13 games this year I would think so.

Hammerhead
December 13th, 2022, 09:21 PM
I think many fans are bored with winning with more blowouts than close games in the playoffs for the past several years. While the Montana game was loud, the family of 6 in front of us never cheered once and the mom spent most of the second half watching a high school basketball game on her phone. Walking around the concourse before the game there were still lots of senior citizens who have probably been fans for a long time although they may not make much noise during the game.


PC, a question on that crowd noise. Looking at the other thread, NDSU hasn’t been close to a season avg for attendance in the playoffs. I don’t understand why these aren’t standing room only games in the Fargodome? I assume the 10-12k that have been coming are devout and very loud so maybe the others don’t matter?

gofurman
December 13th, 2022, 10:16 PM
NDSU's offense has taken the brunt of the injuries. The defense is playing its best football right now.

I'll take NDSU's sound defense over video game offense any day of the week.

Love me some DEFENSE man. LOVE IT. Hate this 'west coast' (yes, I know UIW is Texas but still they play a 'PAC 12' style) crap. All O, no D? Not for me. That is not football. That is waiting for a turnover or two to beat you (how Furman, who - I am objective, is Not as talented as UIW - yet almost won).. We picked ol' superman Scott twice in the first half. And then you all really ought to look at whatever Furman did in Q3 because that was a Total shutdown of their vaunted offense. I would hazard a guess that may be the worst quarter or offense UIW has had all year?? Has to be close. 3 for 8 passing for THREE yards? WOW.

Just like I am sure UIW will study the Samford film of what they did in the first half vs NDSU. They really stymied NDSU's offense for a decent while for a team (Samford), that honestly, wins on offense and is not known for strong D. Their D is better this year and thus their appearance (see, D matters! - that is the reason Samford finally got in the postseason... That is my concern as I am pulling for NDSU and tired of this UIW PAC-12 stuff. I worry from what I saw when NDSU struggled to move the Samford guys out of the way with your OL (I do realize your OL was outnumbered but you have to adapt as ya'll finally did in 2nd half). Because Furman has played both Samford and UIW and I would say UIW has a better front 7 and D in general...

Just my thoughts. Go NDSU

Professor Chaos
December 14th, 2022, 05:53 AM
Not sure what UIW's travel plans are but typically teams fly in the afternoon of the day before game which means their plans this week might get impacted by some weather. We're in the midst of a 3 day winter storm here in Fargo and they just revised tomorrow's forecast to 3-5" inches of snow expected with 20-30 mph winds. If that's accurate it would certainly disrupt travel on the day UIW's charter would be flying in. We've got a resident "flight stalker" on Bisonville who combs through flightaware.com finding the team charters so will be something to keep an eye on tomorrow.

Winterborn
December 14th, 2022, 08:24 AM
Not sure what UIW's travel plans are but typically teams fly in the afternoon of the day before game which means their plans this week might get impacted by some weather. We're in the midst of a 3 day winter storm here in Fargo and they just revised tomorrow's forecast to 3-5" inches of snow expected with 20-30 mph winds. If that's accurate it would certainly disrupt travel on the day UIW's charter would be flying in. We've got a resident "flight stalker" on Bisonville who combs through flightaware.com finding the team charters so will be something to keep an eye on tomorrow.

My snowblower and shovel is definitely getting a workout.

Going to make tailgating Friday afternoon interesting. Hopefully this time somebody doesn't forget to fill the propane tanks. xlolx

SpreadTheWord
December 14th, 2022, 08:48 AM
Not sure what UIW's travel plans are but typically teams fly in the afternoon of the day before game which means their plans this week might get impacted by some weather. We're in the midst of a 3 day winter storm here in Fargo and they just revised tomorrow's forecast to 3-5" inches of snow expected with 20-30 mph winds. If that's accurate it would certainly disrupt travel on the day UIW's charter would be flying in. We've got a resident "flight stalker" on Bisonville who combs through flightaware.com finding the team charters so will be something to keep an eye on tomorrow.

Check out @SportsAviation on Twitter. They track the flights of all professional and collegiate sports teams. It's some pretty cool stuff.

Bison Fan in NW MN
December 14th, 2022, 02:46 PM
Love me some DEFENSE man. LOVE IT. Hate this 'west coast' (yes, I know UIW is Texas but still they play a 'PAC 12' style) crap. All O, no D? Not for me. That is not football. That is waiting for a turnover or two to beat you (how Furman, who - I am objective, is Not as talented as UIW - yet almost won).. We picked ol' superman Scott twice in the first half. And then you all really ought to look at whatever Furman did in Q3 because that was a Total shutdown of their vaunted offense. I would hazard a guess that may be the worst quarter or offense UIW has had all year?? Has to be close. 3 for 8 passing for THREE yards? WOW.

Just like I am sure UIW will study the Samford film of what they did in the first half vs NDSU. They really stymied NDSU's offense for a decent while for a team (Samford), that honestly, wins on offense and is not known for strong D. Their D is better this year and thus their appearance (see, D matters! - that is the reason Samford finally got in the postseason... That is my concern as I am pulling for NDSU and tired of this UIW PAC-12 stuff. I worry from what I saw when NDSU struggled to move the Samford guys out of the way with your OL (I do realize your OL was outnumbered but you have to adapt as ya'll finally did in 2nd half). Because Furman has played both Samford and UIW and I would say UIW has a better front 7 and D in general...

Just my thoughts. Go NDSU



More than likely UIW will try to do what Samford did. Samford did a lot of run blitzing and stacking the box. It worked most of the 1st half. The short passing game was there all game long for the Bison. They exploited it some but could have a lot more. Not having a true downfield WR hurts the passing game but when the running game is so effective, then that most of the time is a moot point.

The Bison defense will slow up this offense. It is too good not to. Word will get some yards and probably some chunk plays but can they do it all game long?

UIW did not stop Sac State at all. I don't think Sac State punted at all. NDSU might have to pass to set up the run a little bit to keep UIW honest but the Bison will run on this defense.

Winterborn
December 15th, 2022, 08:08 AM
With the winter storm we are having (6-9 more inches coming and winds picking up), I am curious what would happen if for some reason UIW cannot make it into Fargo in time for the game? Is it pushed back to a different day?

I also cannot remember if this has happened before and if there is a precedent for it.

Professor Chaos
December 15th, 2022, 08:37 AM
With the winter storm we are having (6-9 more inches coming and winds picking up), I am curious what would happen if for some reason UIW cannot make it into Fargo in time for the game? Is it pushed back to a different day?

I also cannot remember if this has happened before and if there is a precedent for it.
I don't recall it ever happening before but I'd assume it would take a pretty significant event to push back the game time since there's a national TV slot for it.

It shouldn't be an issue to get in tomorrow morning if need be but would that provide a competitive issue given the "neutrality" the NCAA tries to maintain at host sites in the playoffs?

caribbeanhen
December 15th, 2022, 08:53 AM
I don't recall it ever happening before but I'd assume it would take a pretty significant event to push back the game time since there's a national TV slot for it.

It shouldn't be an issue to get in tomorrow morning if need be but would that provide a competitive issue given the "neutrality" the NCAA tries to maintain at host sites in the playoffs?

Don't forget to put the growling snarling chest beating 50 foot Sasquatch out on the runway to chase the plane while taxiing up to the gate.....

FUBeAR
December 15th, 2022, 09:03 AM
With the winter storm we are having (6-9 more inches coming and winds picking up), I am curious what would happen if for some reason UIW cannot make it into Fargo in time for the game? Is it pushed back to a different day?

I also cannot remember if this has happened before and if there is a precedent for it.
Automatic Forfeit.

FUBeAR has read the prevailing logic here….

If they didn’t want to have to travel, they should have won more games. It’s completely UIW’s fault for losing to SLU.

Too bad, so sad. Better luck next year.

Sure, NDSU lost 2 games and UIW has only lost 1, but y’know…MVFC & 46 National Championships in a row…and all that. Just stop crying you lowly Southland Cardinals. The Committee did everything perfectly and you’ll just have to suck it up and live with it. Now, STFU and accept your well-deserved L.

POD Knows
December 15th, 2022, 09:19 AM
I don't recall it ever happening before but I'd assume it would take a pretty significant event to push back the game time since there's a national TV slot for it.

It shouldn't be an issue to get in tomorrow morning if need be but would that provide a competitive issue given the "neutrality" the NCAA tries to maintain at host sites in the playoffs?
It will be easier to get to the game from Texas that it will be from western and central North Dakota. It will be a miracle if 12k show up for this game.

Winterborn
December 15th, 2022, 09:41 AM
It will be easier to get to the game from Texas that it will be from western and central North Dakota. It will be a miracle if 12k show up for this game.

Agree. I saw the interstate is shut down again this week (Dickinson to Jamestown right now).

Winterborn
December 15th, 2022, 09:43 AM
I don't recall it ever happening before but I'd assume it would take a pretty significant event to push back the game time since there's a national TV slot for it.

It shouldn't be an issue to get in tomorrow morning if need be but would that provide a competitive issue given the "neutrality" the NCAA tries to maintain at host sites in the playoffs?

Well if only one team can show up due to weather, national TV slot or not, it is going to be a short game. xlolx


There has been enough flights in and out these past few days that they shouldn't have an issue I agree. Hector is really good at keeping the runways clear and since I assume they will be flying a charter they are not at the wims of the airlines.

Winterborn
December 15th, 2022, 09:47 AM
Don't forget to put the growling snarling chest beating 50 foot Sasquatch out on the runway to chase the plane while taxiing up to the gate.....

Sasquatches are hard to find this time of year.

And while I am not 50 feet tall, I do look like a Sasquatch when I take my shirt off so I could stand by the gate when they come in and be eating some Tiger Meat. xthumbsupx

Bisonator
December 15th, 2022, 09:47 AM
Takes a lot to shut down an international airport, doubt they will have any issues getting in tonight.

ming01
December 15th, 2022, 10:03 AM
I don't recall it ever happening before but I'd assume it would take a pretty significant event to push back the game time since there's a national TV slot for it.

It shouldn't be an issue to get in tomorrow morning if need be but would that provide a competitive issue given the "neutrality" the NCAA tries to maintain at host sites in the playoffs?

If that happens Im sure there will be more complaints of NDSU's competitive advantage. ;)

Professor Chaos
December 15th, 2022, 10:04 AM
Takes a lot to shut down an international airport, doubt they will have any issues getting in tonight.
Yeah, seems like flights are still landing in Fargo as of now but MSP is reporting an average delay of 29 minutes (and rising).

In any case this is not ideal timing for travel today in Fargo:

https://twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/1603393817289310209



If that happens Im sure there will be more complaints of NDSU's competitive advantage. ;)
Everyone knows we have wizards up here that conjure up blizzards when opposing teams playoff flights are scheduled to come in. :D

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HelplessAcrobaticArgentineruddyduck-size_restricted.gif

ming01
December 15th, 2022, 10:05 AM
It will be easier to get to the game from Texas that it will be from western and central North Dakota. It will be a miracle if 12k show up for this game.

Unfortunately I wont be making it due to weather. Just not going to deal with it.

Bisonator
December 15th, 2022, 10:11 AM
Unfortunately I wont be making it due to weather. Just not going to deal with it.
And you live in Fargo?

ming01
December 15th, 2022, 10:31 AM
And you live in Fargo?

No I live in West NoDak now.

caribbeanhen
December 15th, 2022, 10:37 AM
Sasquatches are hard to find this time of year.

And while I am not 50 feet tall, I do look like a Sasquatch when I take my shirt off so I could stand by the gate when they come in and be eating some Tiger Meat. xthumbsupx

this is the kind of creativity I like!

Professor Chaos
December 15th, 2022, 12:07 PM
Here's the UIW charter: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4781/history/20221215/1900Z/KSAT/KFAR

So far it's listed as "on time" for a departure in about an hour and a 3:40PM CT arrival. Just looking out my window here in Fargo I have no clue how airplanes can be landing here right now and it's not supposed to let up anytime soon.

gofurman
December 15th, 2022, 12:20 PM
Unfortunately I wont be making it due to weather. Just not going to deal with it.

There is some irony that this weather could actually hurt the HOME team more ... Instead of 300 UIW fans there will be 200.. or whatever. But some of the older NDSU fans (or like Ming above) just may not want to put up with it. This "NDSU weather" will hurt NDSU more than UIW. Crowd noise will diminish a little bit.

NDSU could possibly lose 1k or 2k fans? I have no idea. but they feed off energy and crowd noise..

Go NDSU

lionsrking2
December 15th, 2022, 12:26 PM
Don't understand the fascination with when UIW's plane will arrive. It'll get there when it gets there and the game will go on.

Professor Chaos
December 15th, 2022, 12:37 PM
Don't understand the fascination with when UIW's plane will arrive. It'll get there when it gets there and the game will go on.
Ever had a several hour delay at the airport or in an airplane? It's not something that makes you feel energized. I hope they can get up here with minimal issues because I don't want it to be a factor in the game. if they can get up here even by early evening tonight I would think they'll be unaffected by it by tomorrow.

Football teams are also creatures of habit/routine/schedules. I know NDSU has a very set schedule for road games that they follow almost every week they're on the road - weather disruptions mess with that dynamic.

lionsrking2
December 15th, 2022, 12:55 PM
Ever had a several hour delay at the airport or in an airplane? It's not something that makes you feel energized. I hope they can get up here with minimal issues because I don't want it to be a factor in the game. if they can get up here even by early evening tonight I would think they'll be unaffected by it by tomorrow.

Football teams are also creatures of habit/routine/schedules. I know NDSU has a very set schedule for road games that they follow almost every week they're on the road - weather disruptions mess with that dynamic.
Yes I have, many, many times. But not sure why NDSU folks are concerned with something UIW has to deal with. They’re going to play the same players and run the same plays. It may, or may not, impact their performance but will impact NDSU’s? I doubt it.

BisonBacker
December 15th, 2022, 02:11 PM
Yes I have, many, many times. But not sure why NDSU folks are concerned with something UIW has to deal with. They’re going to play the same players and run the same plays. It may, or may not, impact their performance but will impact NDSU’s? I doubt it.

I think people are more interested/concerned if they can get here period. Unless you've lived in the Northern Tier of States and been in a blizzard or blizzard like conditions I wouldn't expect you to understand.

BisonBacker
December 15th, 2022, 02:15 PM
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Bisonator
December 15th, 2022, 02:17 PM
Wonder where their equipment truck is, might have more issues getting that here then the players with the interstates closing.

Gil Dobie
December 15th, 2022, 02:37 PM
Here's the UIW charter: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4781/history/20221215/1900Z/KSAT/KFAR

So far it's listed as "on time" for a departure in about an hour and a 3:40PM CT arrival. Just looking out my window here in Fargo I have no clue how airplanes can be landing here right now and it's not supposed to let up anytime soon.

48 minutes late now. Not a big deal.

Professor Chaos
December 15th, 2022, 02:49 PM
48 minutes late now. Not a big deal.
Yep, and the last snow bands of this round are just about clearing out so should be good timing for them. Still windy but it's wet enough snow that the stuff on the ground isn't doing much blowing.

BisonBacker
December 15th, 2022, 02:53 PM
This is just from last night till just now. I had already cleaned out about the same amount yesterday and yes my vehicles were cleaned off yesterday afternoon.

BisonBacker
December 15th, 2022, 03:25 PM
Will be interesting to see. Right now at my house visibility is good but the wind hasn't picked up yet. FYI I'm only about 1 mile from the Airport on the Minnesota side.

POD Knows
December 15th, 2022, 04:07 PM
I live about a half hour E/SE of Fargo and I think we missed the big part of the storm. We probably got a foot or so of super heavy snow. I have a 3X Cub Cadet walk behind snowblower and blew snow twice today and the snowblower was pretty marginal for the work. Also got my drive way filled in for the 3rd time. The three previous towns I lived in all had gates on their snowplows but the town I live in now does t have them. Pain in the ass.

SpreadTheWord
December 15th, 2022, 04:17 PM
Looks like they should be ok to land...

ElCid
December 15th, 2022, 04:54 PM
Here's the UIW charter: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4781/history/20221215/1900Z/KSAT/KFAR

So far it's listed as "on time" for a departure in about an hour and a 3:40PM CT arrival. Just looking out my window here in Fargo I have no clue how airplanes can be landing here right now and it's not supposed to let up anytime soon.

Eh, not a huge issue. Visibility is the key. Low vis would affect ability to land, but landing in/on snow isn't that big a deal. As long as they got a centerline plowed. Having been stationed up north we did it all the time. Not sure how hard it is coming down though. Hopefully they got down ok.

FUBeAR
December 15th, 2022, 05:04 PM
Eh, not a huge issue. Visibility is the key. Low vis would affect ability to land, but landing in/on snow isn't that big a deal. As long as they got a centerline plowed. Having been stationed up north we did it all the time. Not sure how hard it is coming down though. Hopefully they got down ok.
All good…

Allegiant Air 4781
AAY4781 / G44781
LANDED 38 MINUTES AGO
took off from San Antonio Intl - SAT (https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KSAT)
landed at (https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KSAT) Hector Intl - FAR (https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KFAR)

Professor Chaos
December 15th, 2022, 05:08 PM
Eh, not a huge issue. Visibility is the key. Low vis would affect ability to land, but landing in/on snow isn't that big a deal. As long as they got a centerline plowed. Having been stationed up north we did it all the time. Not sure how hard it is coming down though. Hopefully they got down ok.
They knew what they were doing. When they were in the air visibility was only 1/4 mile at Fargo's airport which, as I understand, isn't enough to land but they timed it about perfectly to get in right as the snow was letting up.

caribbeanhen
December 15th, 2022, 07:50 PM
They knew what they were doing. When they were in the air visibility was only 1/4 mile at Fargo's airport which, as I understand, isn't enough to land but they timed it about perfectly to get in right as the snow was letting up.

about 24 hours from now they’ll wish that plane never took off

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 15th, 2022, 09:33 PM
Hopefully everyone gets to the game safe tomorrow night! If it wasn't for this monster winter storm affecting the Northeast and Northern Plains my friend and I were going to hit up both FCS semifinals and the Eagles/Bears game in Chicago on Sunday. Damn same too! Walk-on extended a nice invite to pregame in Fargo!

SUPharmacist
December 16th, 2022, 05:38 AM
GameDay, can't wait. My wife is just heading in for knee surgery, so we will be watching on TV tonight. Hopefully it is a great game and no big injuries to anyone.

Professor Chaos
December 16th, 2022, 06:09 AM
Going to be a light crowd I think with the whole state under a no travel advisory and both interstates closed west and south out of Fargo right now.

https://travel.dot.nd.gov/

Bison Fan in NW MN
December 16th, 2022, 06:40 AM
Going to be a light crowd I think with the whole state under a no travel advisory and both interstates closed west and south out of Fargo right now.

https://travel.dot.nd.gov/


Side roads and 4 wheel drive....I'll be there!!!

xnodx

Winterborn
December 16th, 2022, 07:01 AM
Going to be a light crowd I think with the whole state under a no travel advisory and both interstates closed west and south out of Fargo right now.

https://travel.dot.nd.gov/

So will tailgating. Of the few groups I know, at least one will not be setting up as not everybody can make it in.

Our group will be setting up though and the human anti-freeze will be flowing.

Winterborn
December 16th, 2022, 07:03 AM
Side roads and 4 wheel drive....I'll be there!!!

xnodx

Safe travels!

FUBeAR
December 16th, 2022, 07:49 AM
All NDSU Fans should stay home and be safe! Don’t put Football ahead of your and your families’ safety.

The game is on TV. The bizuns will be fine this one time without you. It’s just a Southland cupcake.

Heck, this UIW Team would have lost to the SoCon’s Furman if not for an inconsequential brief, light tug on the back of a D-Lineman’s jersey. How good can they be?

STAY HOME!

That’s a FUBeAR mandate!!

caribbeanhen
December 16th, 2022, 07:52 AM
All NDSU Fans should stay home and be safe! Don’t put Football ahead of your and your families’ safety.

The game is on TV. The bizuns will be fine this one time without you. It’s just a Southland cupcake.

Heck, this UIW Team would have lost to the SoCon’s Furman if not for a brief, light tug on the back of a D-Lineman’s jersey. How good can they be?

STAY HOME!

That’s a FUBeAR mandate!!

nice try but you know 7000 hardy fans can be just as loud as 14,000

McCowboys
December 16th, 2022, 08:31 AM
nice try but you know 7000 hardy fans can be just as loud as 14,000

I think the Bison should just forfeit to show their appreciation for UIW making that treacherous 1000-mile flight from WAY down South!

gofurman
December 16th, 2022, 08:37 AM
Going to be a light crowd I think with the whole state under a no travel advisory and both interstates closed west and south out of Fargo right now.

https://travel.dot.nd.gov/

This was my point. Usually teams that play at altitude or in cold weather or whatnot benefit from being used to that weather. ND is used to extreme cold so whatever.. they would get their fans. But the advantage they always have is the crowd noise (pre-snap penalties and disruptions etc). I don't know the attendance figures (12K??) but they may now lose 3 or 4K fans. That's a big loss.

Everyone get out there and yell LOUD to whoop the UIW west-coast no-defense junk. UIW should not benefit becuase it was 'too cold and snowy' in Fargo. I didn't think that was a possible scenario with how used to the cold and snow Fargo is

Professor Chaos
December 16th, 2022, 09:18 AM
This was my point. Usually teams that play at altitude or in cold weather or whatnot benefit from being used to that weather. ND is used to extreme cold so whatever.. they would get their fans. But the advantage they always have is the crowd noise (pre-snap penalties and disruptions etc). I don't know the attendance figures (12K??) but they may now lose 3 or 4K fans. That's a big loss.

Everyone get out there and yell LOUD to whoop the UIW west-coast no-defense junk. UIW should not benefit becuase it was 'too cold and snowy' in Fargo. I didn't think that was a possible scenario with how used to the cold and snow Fargo is
Cold definitely wouldn't be an issue and snow is only part of it - it's the 25-35 mph winds gusting to over 40 mph that's keeping the roads closed this morning. Even though the snow has tapered off the loose stuff is blowing around making it tough to see and tough to clear the roads since they blow back in so quickly.

Another issue with closed interstates around here is there's usually plenty of abandoned vehicles that got stuck on the road/shoulder/ditch and need to wait for the plows to come through so they can dig those vehicles out and get them out of there which, in turn, causes the plows to have to go through slower to get around the abandoned vehicles. It seems pretty unlikely that I94 between Bismarck and Fargo will be open by game time.

NEBison
December 16th, 2022, 09:37 AM
Going to be a light crowd I think with the whole state under a no travel advisory and both interstates closed west and south out of Fargo right now.

https://travel.dot.nd.gov/

I know at least 5 of my family have tickets but more than likely won't make it from Central ND

Gil Dobie
December 16th, 2022, 11:47 AM
Something big will happen and 40,000 people will claim they were there.

Gil Dobie
December 16th, 2022, 11:52 AM
I hope the Bison win, doesn't look good. Small crowd, and injuries, team with best offense in history, even beat the vaunted Southern Conference power Furman, coming to Fargo If they do win, it will be one of their biggest wins as a FBS school.

MSUBobcat
December 16th, 2022, 12:08 PM
Side roads and 4 wheel drive....I'll be there!!!

xnodx

Safe travels. Dunno if McClusky is your current home or NW MN, but I know some of that stretch of highway very well, as my family originated (and some still live) in the Bowdon-Fessenden area. In fact, I believe I was pulled over in McClusky several years back on Christmas.

caribbeanhen
December 16th, 2022, 12:12 PM
I think the Bison should just forfeit to show their appreciation for UIW making that treacherous 1000-mile flight from WAY down South!

A little sand bagging in support of the team from down south, Problem is it’s not a flood it’s a blizzard

Bison win this

MSUBobcat
December 16th, 2022, 12:13 PM
Cold definitely wouldn't be an issue and snow is only part of it - it's the 25-35 mph winds gusting to over 40 mph that's keeping the roads closed this morning. Even though the snow has tapered off the loose stuff is blowing around making it tough to see and tough to clear the roads since they blow back in so quickly.

Another issue with closed interstates around here is there's usually plenty of abandoned vehicles that got stuck on the road/shoulder/ditch and need to wait for the plows to come through so they can dig those vehicles out and get them out of there which, in turn, causes the plows to have to go through slower to get around the abandoned vehicles. It seems pretty unlikely that I94 between Bismarck and Fargo will be open by game time.

Do Bison games not draw well from the F-M metro area? With a quarter million people, I would think drawing 10k wouldn't be much problem. xconfusedx

caribbeanhen
December 16th, 2022, 12:14 PM
I hope the Bison win, doesn't look good. Small crowd, and injuries, team with best offense in history, even beat the vaunted Southern Conference power Furman, coming to Fargo If they do win, it will be one of their biggest wins as a FBS school.

I thought POD Sabe wrote this until I checked

FUBeAR
December 16th, 2022, 12:16 PM
I thought POD Sabe wrote this until I checked
FUBeAR thinks Gil already has been hittin’ that Prestone bottle pretty hard.

FBS? What?

POD Knows
December 16th, 2022, 12:16 PM
Back when I was working, we used to do a month long training affair with our North American dealers and my stint down there was usually two weeks and the event was in mid Jan to mid Feb. When I got back up here I was almost clinically depressed for a day or two. I don’t get depressed but the impact of the lack of light, climate differences took me a while to adjust to, I wonder if that happens to other people. I know a fair number of snowbirds that used to come back in April, then it was May and now some of them said **** it and live in AZ all year.

Professor Chaos
December 16th, 2022, 12:27 PM
Do Bison games not draw well from the F-M metro area? With a quarter million people, I would think drawing 10k wouldn't be much problem. xconfusedx
You'd be surprised how many people in the FM area are indifferent to NDSU athletics. I'd say at best it's 50/50 for in town vs out of town fans at a typical Bison football game and I'd lean towards more out of town fans. They don't regularly sell out anymore so if you're only drawing local fans I don't think they'd even get 10k.


I hope the Bison win, doesn't look good. Small crowd, and injuries, team with best offense in history, even beat the vaunted Southern Conference power Furman, coming to Fargo If they do win, it will be one of their biggest wins as a FBS school.
Don't you worry about the crowd noise/energy... there may not be as many of us as normal but they'll know we're there when UIW is on offense. :)

Gil Dobie
December 16th, 2022, 12:37 PM
You'd be surprised how many people in the FM area are indifferent to NDSU athletics. I'd say at best it's 50/50 for in town vs out of town fans at a typical Bison football game and I'd lean towards more out of town fans. They don't regularly sell out anymore so if you're only drawing local fans I don't think they'd even get 10k.


Don't you worry about the crowd noise/energy... there may not be as many of us as normal but they'll know we're there when UIW is on offense. :)

But Furman.

Sitting Bull
December 16th, 2022, 12:39 PM
You'd be surprised how many people in the FM area are indifferent to NDSU athletics. I'd say at best it's 50/50 for in town vs out of town fans at a typical Bison football game and I'd lean towards more out of town fans. They don't regularly sell out anymore so if you're only drawing local fans I don't think they'd even get 10k.


Don't you worry about the crowd noise/energy... there may not be as many of us as normal but they'll know we're there when UIW is on offense. :)

I hope the PA guy makes it. From the few games I’ve seen from there on TV, he’s one of the best. He seems to get the crowd going. First down BISON!

FUBeAR
December 16th, 2022, 12:41 PM
Don't you worry about the crowd noise/energy... there may not be as many of us as normal but they'll know we're there when UIW is on offense. :)
Hah, (Evil)Professor…what you’ve failed to realize is that UIW actually stands for University of Intercochlear Weakness and the Players for UIW always use silent counts/signals just like they do at Gallaudet University in DC. That “Incarnate Word” thing was just a sham to pull this long con on NDSU. The Cardinals won’t even be able to hear you rowdy bizuns.

FargoDome superpower level = 0

MSUBobcat
December 16th, 2022, 12:42 PM
You'd be surprised how many people in the FM area are indifferent to NDSU athletics. I'd say at best it's 50/50 for in town vs out of town fans at a typical Bison football game and I'd lean towards more out of town fans. They don't regularly sell out anymore so if you're only drawing local fans I don't think they'd even get 10k.


Don't you worry about the crowd noise/energy... there may not be as many of us as normal but they'll know we're there when UIW is on offense. :)

You ain't lying. I'm quite surprised. 10k is only 4% of the population. I would guess 10k of MSU's crowd is from Gallatin County (123k), but maybe I'm full of ****. Or more than normal anyway.

Professor Chaos
December 16th, 2022, 12:45 PM
I hope the PA guy makes it. From the few games I’ve seen from there on TV, he’s one of the best. He seems to get the crowd going. First down BISON!
He's local I'm fairly sure since he hosts a show on a local radio station (https://kfgo.com/2020/03/03/24976/).

He is good at what he does - he had a health issue a few years back and they needed a replacement for a few regular season games and it was noticeable absence in terms of the gameday atmosphere. I've heard opposing fans from time-to-time say he's over the top but what PA guy hasn't been accused of that by opposing fans at some time or another?

mmiller_34
December 16th, 2022, 12:47 PM
Are their any Bizon fans out there (besides me) that are NOT worried about UIW?

FUBeAR
December 16th, 2022, 12:48 PM
But Furman.
Live Look-in at Gil Dobie’s current Tailgate Situation…

https://www.imagetin.com/images/micksgarage-ie/646jk67ggt/maxresdefault_1392be.jpg

MSUBobcat
December 16th, 2022, 12:48 PM
I hope the PA guy makes it. From the few games I’ve seen from there on TV, he’s one of the best. He seems to get the crowd going. First down BISON!

I'll have to pay attention. I think MSU has a fantastic announcer also. "It's THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRD DOWN!"

Gil Dobie
December 16th, 2022, 12:59 PM
Live Look-in at Gil Dobie’s current Tailgate Situation…

https://www.imagetin.com/images/micksgarage-ie/646jk67ggt/maxresdefault_1392be.jpg

The Word beat Furman, they have to be unstoppable.

FUBeAR
December 16th, 2022, 01:06 PM
The Word beat Furman, they have to be unstoppable.
One would conclude as much. Drink up!

Sitting Bull
December 16th, 2022, 02:11 PM
I'll have to pay attention. I think MSU has a fantastic announcer also. "It's THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRD DOWN!"

Yes, he was excellent. The best at Bozeman though is the entry. It’s outstanding.

MSUBobcat
December 16th, 2022, 03:29 PM
Yes, he was excellent. The best at Bozeman though is the entry. It’s outstanding.

Yes. We are pretty proud of the entrance. One of the best in college football, IMO. Would have been nice to meet someone from the board, but glad you had a good time, all things considered.

ElCid
December 16th, 2022, 05:58 PM
How's the crowd? For anyone who happen there's to be there.

SeattleCat
December 16th, 2022, 06:02 PM
Why is the announcer talking about how cold it is and how they're used to it when its in a dome....

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 16th, 2022, 06:02 PM
Did people really take snowmobiles, atvs, side-by-sides etc to the game?

UNHWildcat18
December 16th, 2022, 06:05 PM
Fargo dome…..not that full

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 16th, 2022, 06:10 PM
Damn, that was impressive....

How long will it take NDSU to respond?

SeattleCat
December 16th, 2022, 06:11 PM
Impressive first drive, Scott is an elite QB.

BisonFan02
December 16th, 2022, 06:12 PM
Damn, that was impressive....

How long will it take NDSU to respond?

Not looking good. Bison can't go down two scores or you could just about stick a fork in them.

Winterborn
December 16th, 2022, 06:12 PM
Did people really take snowmobiles, atvs, side-by-sides etc to the game?I would not doubt it. Back in college people rode dirt bikes and snowmobiles to class.

ElCid
December 16th, 2022, 06:14 PM
That was easy. Oh my.

BisonFan02
December 16th, 2022, 06:17 PM
Welp.......here we go.

SeattleCat
December 16th, 2022, 06:17 PM
Bison look terrible.

TheKingpin28
December 16th, 2022, 06:17 PM
Maybe Entz and Roehl don't know what they are doing?

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The Yo Show
December 16th, 2022, 06:18 PM
That handoff miscue on 3rd and short is a mistake I have never seen made from a Bison team in the playoffs.

dewey
December 16th, 2022, 06:19 PM
Big mistake by the offense on 3rd and 2. Sure seemed like UIW ran back on punt coverage before the punter kicked it. Fake punt later?

Come on Bison!

Dewey

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 16th, 2022, 06:21 PM
UIW is gashing the Bison...

Prime Power
December 16th, 2022, 06:21 PM
That handoff miscue on 3rd and short is a mistake I have never seen made from a Bison team in the playoffs.

Its because Matt Entz is not a good HC who is riding the coattails of Kliemans super seniors. Next year NDSU is a 500 team.

Winterborn
December 16th, 2022, 06:21 PM
Not looking good. Bison can't go down two scores or you could just about stick a fork in them.Yup.

BisonFan02
December 16th, 2022, 06:22 PM
Ballgame.

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 16th, 2022, 06:22 PM
I have never seen a Bison defense look like this. Holy gees....

UNHWildcat18
December 16th, 2022, 06:22 PM
What a start for UIW…

- - - Updated - - -

What a start for UIW…

The Yo Show
December 16th, 2022, 06:23 PM
Well... If bison don't respond here this is gonna get ugly

Puddin Tane
December 16th, 2022, 06:23 PM
Yes!

ElCid
December 16th, 2022, 06:23 PM
UIW is schooling the Bison. NDSU looks like they were not ready for this, like deer in headlights.

dewey
December 16th, 2022, 06:23 PM
It is still early. Get some adjustments on defense and get a good drive offensively.

Have faith.

Dewey

Gil Dobie
December 16th, 2022, 06:24 PM
One coach that found the hole in the Bison defense, and exploiting it. Could be a long night.

POD Knows
December 16th, 2022, 06:25 PM
Two different levels of speed here it appears. Might get worse before it gets better

caribbeanhen
December 16th, 2022, 06:25 PM
It is still early. Get some adjustments on defense and get a good drive offensively.

Have faith.

Dewey

4th quarter let’s see how IW is lookin

Gil Dobie
December 16th, 2022, 06:25 PM
It is still early. Get some adjustments on defense and get a good drive offensively.

Have faith.

Dewey

Jethro is in over his head.

ElCid
December 16th, 2022, 06:26 PM
Two different levels of speed here it appears. Might get worse before it gets better

I noticed that. Looked like the Bison were in slow motion.

The Yo Show
December 16th, 2022, 06:26 PM
And now this kickoff miscue. What the hell is going on with the bison?

TheKingpin28
December 16th, 2022, 06:27 PM
This is what happens when one coach uses Klieman's recruits and relied on talent instead of ability to coach AND talent.

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TheKingpin28
December 16th, 2022, 06:27 PM
And now this kickoff miscue. What the hell is going on with the bison?Matt Entz

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Go Lehigh TU owl
December 16th, 2022, 06:27 PM
How is that not a safety?

PL officials...ohh boy....

GoBlueHens83
December 16th, 2022, 06:27 PM
UIW running through the Bison defense so easy is giving me flashbacks to what App State did to the Hens defense in 2007.

POD Knows
December 16th, 2022, 06:28 PM
Lmfao.

The Yo Show
December 16th, 2022, 06:28 PM
That is a safety

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 16th, 2022, 06:28 PM
This is what happens when one coach uses Klieman's recruits and relied on talent instead of ability to coach AND talent.

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Hopefully K-State can keep Klieman! Dude is the real deal....

Bison56
December 16th, 2022, 06:28 PM
One team wants it the other not so much.

ElCid
December 16th, 2022, 06:29 PM
Even if it isn't a safety, Bison appear to be officially done. Holy crap.

TheKingpin28
December 16th, 2022, 06:29 PM
Hopefully K-State can keep Klieman! Dude is the real deal....It's tough having the injuries NDSU has, but that does not excuse what UIW is doing to NDSU. Absolutely destroying on both sides of the ball.

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mmiller_34
December 16th, 2022, 06:29 PM
Wtf is happening

SeattleCat
December 16th, 2022, 06:30 PM
This is what happens when one coach uses Klieman's recruits and relied on talent instead of ability to coach AND talent.

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Last year in Frisco a Bison fan I partied with was not a big fan of Entz. He said everyone wanted Vigen.

TheKingpin28
December 16th, 2022, 06:30 PM
Even if it isn't a safety, Bison appear to be officially done. Holy crap.It only takes one coach to derail success and I think people are starting to see it...hopefully.

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Go Lehigh TU owl
December 16th, 2022, 06:30 PM
One team wants it the other not so much.

Preparation....

Was the weather as such that it prevented NDSU to practice? Finals? The Bison look completely outclassed. UIW is good, but they're not THIS good. They survived two opponents just to get here....

Bronco
December 16th, 2022, 06:31 PM
The Word should put in the 2nd team and rest their starters for the Championship game

ElCid
December 16th, 2022, 06:32 PM
It only takes one coach to derail success and I think people are starting to see it...hopefully.

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I've never seen this lack of intensity, energy from NDSU.

paward
December 16th, 2022, 06:32 PM
I am sure the game plan is not being implemented by one team thus far.

TheKingpin28
December 16th, 2022, 06:33 PM
Last year in Frisco a Bison fan I partied with was not a big fan of Entz. He said everyone wanted Vigen.I wouldn't necessaryily Vigen was wanted, but Entz is very polarizing and thinks people who call him and the coaches out are not fans of the team. Entz does not have many supporters to my knowledge, but Vigen has really energized MSU and while I dont think NDSU would offer him in the offseason, a part of me wonders if he'd take it should Entz be let go.

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caribbeanhen
December 16th, 2022, 06:33 PM
Wtf is happening

southern speed

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 16th, 2022, 06:33 PM
Huge stop by NDSU....they need a TD drive....

Daytripper
December 16th, 2022, 06:33 PM
Could be a momentum shifter.

TheKingpin28
December 16th, 2022, 06:34 PM
I've never seen this lack of intensity, energy from NDSU.This is an Entz coached team and us fans have seen this "what the actual hell is going on" multiple times with him and this staff.

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TheKingpin28
December 16th, 2022, 06:35 PM
Maybe a swing pass with Bussey versus off tackle with him?

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Go Lehigh TU owl
December 16th, 2022, 06:35 PM
Simply missed a wide open WR on 3rd down. This is crazy to watch....

ElCid
December 16th, 2022, 06:36 PM
Bison getting tackled in the backfield. Wow.

JacksFan40
December 16th, 2022, 06:36 PM
I wouldn't necessaryily Vigen was wanted, but Entz is very polarizing and thinks people who call him and the coaches out are not fans of the team. Entz does not have many supporters to my knowledge, but Vigen has really energized MSU and while I dont think NDSU would offer him in the offseason, a part of me wonders if he'd take it should Entz be let go.

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Entz sounds like certain people on SDSUFans, can’t accept any criticism of the coaches.

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 16th, 2022, 06:37 PM
Bison getting tackled in the backfield. Wow.

Terrible OL blocking on first down and couldn't execute a basic high school pass play on 3rd down. Defense seems to have settled in some....

TheKingpin28
December 16th, 2022, 06:38 PM
Catch the ball Weber

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Puddin Tane
December 16th, 2022, 06:39 PM
Question ndsu wear black or green helmets?

TheKingpin28
December 16th, 2022, 06:39 PM
Entz sounds like certain people on SDSUFans, can’t accept any criticism of the coaches.Entz pissed off a good amount of fans when he let the players go political, something Klieman never allowed during his tenure.

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dewey
December 16th, 2022, 06:40 PM
Catch the ball Weber

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AMEN! That should have been a HUGE interception!

Come on Bison!

Dewey

TheKingpin28
December 16th, 2022, 06:40 PM
Question ndsu wear black or green helmets?Dark Green Harvest Helmets

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TheKingpin28
December 16th, 2022, 06:40 PM
AMEN! That should have been a HUGE interception!

Come on Bison!

DeweyBison finally get a defensive stop and then the offense sputters.

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TheKingpin28
December 16th, 2022, 06:41 PM
Cam Miller is looking like QP2 out there. Missing open receivers left and right

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POD Knows
December 16th, 2022, 06:41 PM
Is anybody for NDSU gonna ****ing show up.

Daytripper
December 16th, 2022, 06:42 PM
Everybody dropping everything since I started watching.