2022 Quarterfinal: #6 Samford @ #3 North Dakota State

[Professor Chaos]

Game kicks off on Friday 12/9 at 6PM CT and will be nationally televised on ESPN2. Here's how they match up statistically:

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Winner moves on to face the winner of #7 Incarnate Word at #2 Sacramento St.

[Daytripper]

I just don't see it in the cards for Samford...but I may be wrong.

[BisonFan02]

This Bison team is extremely beatable....not great on D and can't tackle for **** after the DL.

[MTfan4life]

I've said this probably too many times to count this season on the podcast, but Samford is very upperclassmen dominant. They have 36 seniors/graduates on the team. For what it's worth, NDSU is also pretty old with 21 seniors, but that Samford number is unprecedented.

[dewey]

This Bison team is extremely beatable....not great on D and can't tackle for **** after the DL.

True, but a new team to the Fargodome usually doesn't fire well. Plus the NDSU run game.....is...nasty.

Dewey

[BisonFan02]

True, but a new team to the Fargodome usually doesn't fire well. Plus the NDSU run game.....is...nasty.

Dewey

The dome isn't much of a threat anymore.

[TheKingpin28]

The dome isn't much of a threat anymore.

Just the bathrooms.

[Winterborn]

This Bison team is extremely beatable....not great on D and can't tackle for **** after the DL.Exactly.

We "should" beat Samford but beyond that I wouldn't bet on it.

[Winterborn]

Just the bathrooms.It has fallen far enough, even that isn't a issue.

[Winterborn]

The dome isn't much of a threat anymore.Very church like. Tailgating was dead.

[caribbeanhen]

If Fargo ain’t excited about the Bison whats to be excited about

[Winterborn]

If Fargo ain’t excited about the Bison whats to be excited aboutSpring

[Professor Chaos]

If Fargo ain’t excited about the Bison whats to be excited about
It's tough to understand unless you're experiencing it but there's a definite "been there done that" and "is this all there is?" mentality with the NDSU fan base. I don't have that feeling since I want to give credit and support to all the current NDSU players that are working just as hard as the championship trailblazers of the early 2010s did and it's not fair to them to be so dismissive of their accomplishments. Fewer and fewer Bison fans each year feel the same it seems... I quit worrying about the bored/spoiled Bison fans years ago though. I'm sure exactly zero people feel sorry for us. ;)

[POD Knows]

The dome isn't much of a threat anymore.
This. There is no freaking home field advantage. Can’t even get decent calls from the zebras. Maybe we should turn the lights down so the Samford receivers can’t see the ball or something

[POD Knows]

It's tough to understand unless you're experiencing it but there's a definite "been there done that" and "is this all there is?" mentality with the NDSU fan base. I don't have that feeling since I want to give credit and support to all the current NDSU players that are working just as hard as the championship trailblazers of the early 2010s did and it's not fair to them to be so dismissive of their accomplishments. Fewer and fewer Bison fans each year feel the same it seems... I quit worrying about the bored/spoiled Bison fans years ago though. I'm sure exactly zero people feel sorry for us. ;)
This is where I am at. I think the people that bale on this program because of “winning” boredom can suck my dick. The whole thing is a mystery to me. How is winning against our peer institutions boring.

[ysubigred]

It's tough to understand unless you're experiencing it but there's a definite "been there done that" and "is this all there is?" mentality with the NDSU fan base. I don't have that feeling since I want to give credit and support to all the current NDSU players that are working just as hard as the championship trailblazers of the early 2010s did and it's not fair to them to be so dismissive of their accomplishments. Fewer and fewer Bison fans each year feel the same it seems... I quit worrying about the bored/spoiled Bison fans years ago though. I'm sure exactly zero people feel sorry for us. ;)New wave of fans coming to fartngo.. cashed in my Penguin club crap.. Goin to bring back some excitement to da dome.. Goin to be part of a winning team again... playoffs r us [emoji106]

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[POD Knows]

New wave of fans coming to fartngo.. cashed in my Penguin club crap.. Goin to bring back some excitement to da dome..

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NDSU played both YSU and Montana this year. YSU was the better team but you gotta win certain games during the year.

[Daytripper]

It's tough to understand unless you're experiencing it but there's a definite "been there done that" and "is this all there is?" mentality with the NDSU fan base. I don't have that feeling since I want to give credit and support to all the current NDSU players that are working just as hard as the championship trailblazers of the early 2010s did and it's not fair to them to be so dismissive of their accomplishments. Fewer and fewer Bison fans each year feel the same it seems... I quit worrying about the bored/spoiled Bison fans years ago though. I'm sure exactly zero people feel sorry for us. ;)

Sounds like you guys just need to make the move to FBS. It's inevitable. Do it now. Conferences will be begging you to join. Hell, join the CUSA with us and it will be a battle between you guys and Liberty every year for the conference chip.

[ysubigred]

NDSU played both YSU and Montana this year. YSU was the better team but you gotta win certain games during the year.I agree.. that's why I'm jumping ship..

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[ysubigred]

Sounds like you guys just need to make the move to FBS. It's inevitable. Do it now. Conferences will be begging you to join. Hell, join the CUSA with us and it will be a battle between you guys and Liberty every year for the conference chip.FCS is scared of us. Georgia who!?

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[Professor Chaos]

Sounds like you guys just need to make the move to FBS. It's inevitable. Do it now. Conferences will be begging you to join. Hell, join the CUSA with us and it will be a battle between you guys and Liberty every year for the conference chip.
If it were only that simple. If CUSA or any other FBS conference is willing to give NDSU a football only invite I think it would be accepted. But to move all sports to a conference like CUSA with no other schools within 1000 miles of Fargo would be a death knell for the non-football sports at NDSU.

I wish there was a regional fit in FBS for NDSU but there really isn't... I think the only way they move up is if one or more regional partners go with. I think the rest of the FCS is stuck with us until then.

[Daytripper]

If it were only that simple. If CUSA or any other FBS conference is willing to give NDSU a football only invite I think it would be accepted. But to move all sports to a conference like CUSA with no other schools within 1000 miles of Fargo would be a death knell for the non-football sports at NDSU.

I wish there was a regional fit in FBS for NDSU but there really isn't... I think the only way they move up is if one or more regional partners go with. I think the rest of the FCS is stuck with us until then.

I think your brand would entice conferences to consider a football-only invite. Just negotiate. The college football would is psychotic right now.

[ysubigred]

If it were only that simple. If CUSA or any other FBS conference is willing to give NDSU a football only invite I think it would be accepted. But to move all sports to a conference like CUSA with no other schools within 1000 miles of Fargo would be a death knell for the non-football sports at NDSU.

I wish there was a regional fit in FBS for NDSU but there really isn't... I think the only way they move up is if one or more regional partners go with. I think the rest of the FCS is stuck with us until then.Bold move.. but the B1G is as regional as it gets for you all, am I wrong?

I think you all would compete in football.. Sadly your facilities are way below standard for that conference.

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[Professor Chaos]

Bold move.. but the B1G is as regional as it gets for you all, am I wrong?

I think you all would compete in football.. Sadly your facilities are way below standard for that conference.

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The only conferences remotely near are the B1G and the Big 12 and neither of those would even consider NDSU if we're being honest. The closest realistic fits would be the MAC or the MWC but they're the only two G5 conferences virtually untouched by realignment (although that could be changing soon for the MWC). I've heard plenty of Bison fans claiming that the MWC is a "perfect" fit for NDSU but it's far from perfect with Wyoming (at a mere 800 miles) being the closest. The only benefit is almost everyone in that conference is a flight away from each other so it wouldn't be as big of a hit for them to expand their geographic footprint to North Dakota.

[Professor Chaos]

This game will be the 6PM CT kickoff on Friday night on ESPN2:

https://twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/1599258414713999360

[ysubigred]

The only conferences remotely near are the B1G and the Big 12 and neither of those would even consider NDSU if we're being honest. The closest realistic fits would be the MAC or the MWC but they're the only two G5 conferences virtually untouched by realignment (although that could be changing soon for the MWC). I've heard plenty of Bison fans claiming that the MWC is a "perfect" fit for NDSU but it's far from perfect with Wyoming (at a mere 800 miles) being the closest. The only benefit is almost everyone in that conference is a flight away from each other so it wouldn't be as big of a hit for them to expand their geographic footprint to North Dakota.Yeah.. No excuses but I feel that's YSUs down fall from their golden years status and has been painful to watch. You figure Fargo is over 1000 miles travel for us. The MVFC is not regional for YSU at all our closest travel is Indy St 425 miles. Adding Murray State is still 625 miles away.

I used to be jealous of NDSU and what you've done in FCS, now I've realized that you're football program is a true machine. Change coaches, players it doesn't matter the winning continues. Until the rest of 1FCS catches up we'll just have to sit back and watch. xbowx



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[Professor Chaos]

Yeah.. No excuses but I feel that's YSUs down fall from their golden years status has been painful to watch. You figure Fargo is over 1000 miles travel for us. The MVFC is not regional for YSU at all our closest travel is Indy St 425 miles. Adding Murray State is still 625 miles away.

I used to be jealous of NDSU and what you've done in FCS, now I've realized that you're football program is a true machine. Change coaches, players it doesn't matter the winning continues. Until the rest of 1FCS catches up we'll just have to sit back and watch. xbowx



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Whether it's the rest of the FCS catching up or NDSU coming back to the pack I feel like the gap is smaller than it has been in quite a while (outside of that weird spring season last year). I like NDSU's chances on their side of the bracket this year but I don't like how they match up with SDSU or Montana St in a potential natty matchup. And to be honest they're definitely capable of losing to Samford or whoever they might face in the semis as well given how inconsistent they've been this year - I think they'll need more than their fair share of luck to stay on top of the FCS mountain and, even as a Bison homer, I'd take the field in a heartbeat right now if I was putting money down.

[Karl Havoc]

Any guesses on what the spread will be? I’m thinking NDSU by 17.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

This Bison team is extremely beatable....not great on D and can't tackle for **** after the DL.


For who?

Maybe 2 teams THIS YEAR. 99% of the FCS doesn't have a chance against NDSU and it includes this team.

Yes, this Bison team has warts and still hasn't played a complete game but until a team can match the physical play on both lines, NDSU will beat them. SDSU can match that. SDSU beat this "weak" NDSU team by 2 after stellar coaching adjustments after halftime.

Samford is going to get steamrolled. Can they match the physical play for 4 quarters....I highly doubt it. Their defense sucks. Ranked now 107/123. Just gave up 348 rushing yards to SELA. And gives up 442 yards/game. If the Bison do not run for over 400 yards against this team, I will be shocked. Samford throws the ball. This Bison's strength on defense is the back end. Good luck just throwing it all over the place.

[caribbeanhen]

For who?

Maybe 2 teams THIS YEAR. 99% of the FCS doesn't have a chance against NDSU and it includes this team.

Yes, this Bison team has warts and still hasn't played a complete game but until a team can match the physical play on both lines, NDSU will beat them. SDSU can match that. SDSU beat this "weak" NDSU team by 2 after stellar coaching adjustments after halftime.

Samford is going to get steamrolled. Can they match the physical play for 4 quarters....I highly doubt it. Their defense sucks. Ranked now 107/123. Just gave up 348 rushing yards to SELA. And gives up 442 yards/game. If the Bison do not run for over 400 yards against this team, I will be shocked. Samford throws the ball. This Bison's strength on defense is the back end. Good luck just throwing it all over the place.

How is POD going to hype Samford up with you posting the truth like this

[Sitting Bull]

Sounds like you guys just need to make the move to FBS. It's inevitable. Do it now. Conferences will be begging you to join. Hell, join the CUSA with us and it will be a battle between you guys and Liberty every year for the conference chip.

Yes, it worked so well for Idaho.

[Gil Dobie]

Might be a high scoring game. Samford QB is a dual threat, which is tough for this Bison team to defend. N

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

How is POD going to hype Samford up with you posting the truth like this


POD knows his sh**. He'll roll out some good joo/joo for this one too....:D

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Might be a high scoring game. Samford QB is a dual threat, which is tough for this Bison team to defend. N


The Bison LB corp is much better with Wisnewski back.

Bring on the dual threat guy. He cannot play defense and their defense is going to get manhandled.

[Gil Dobie]

The Bison LB corp is much better with Wisnewski back.

Bring on the dual threat guy. He cannot play defense and their defense is going to get manhandled.

Montana was not a great running team, and the found some big holes. Could be a similar score to the Montana game.

[POD Knows]

The Bison LB corp is much better with Wisnewski back.

Bring on the dual threat guy. He cannot play defense and their defense is going to get manhandled.
Whoever has the ball at the end of the game wins it. Might not see a punt this entire game. Bison cannot stop anybody at the ends of a half. Samford gets the ball late and goes 80 yards in just over a minute. Samford 56 NDSU 49. #BOOKIT

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Whoever has the ball at the end of the game wins it. Might not see a punt this entire game. Bison cannot stop anybody at the ends of a half. Samford gets the ball late and goes 80 yards in just over a minute. Samford 56 NDSU 49. #BOOKIT




There we go. Everything is kosher in the universe now! xnodx


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[Professor Chaos]

Team stats comparison added to the first post of the thread. Both teams average about the same amount of offensive yards per game but do it in completely different ways... will be quite the contrast of styles offensively.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Team stats comparison added to the first post of the thread. Both teams average about the same amount of offensive yards per game but do it in completely different ways... will be quite the contrast of styles offensively.


Defense wins titles and most games and Samford's is crap.

Bison rush for over 400.

[caribbeanhen]

There we go. Everything is kosher in the universe now! xnodx


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another playoff snoozer

Bison roll 49-21

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

another playoff snoozer

Bison roll 49-21


With how this coaching staff loves to play a shell coverage in the passing game and keep everything in front of them, Samford probably will get a couple of TDs or so.

Bison could probably run on every play and beat this team. They could have yesterday against Montana.

[POD Knows]

With how this coaching staff loves to play a shell coverage in the passing game and keep everything in front of them, Samford probably will get a couple of TDs or so.

Bison could probably run on every play and beat this team. They could have yesterday against Montana.
Yea. They could have. What did we get passing, little over 50 yards. Hell, the passing game cost us points in the second half.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Yea. They could have. What did we get passing, little over 50 yards. Hell, the passing game cost us points in the second half.


Montana is a mediocre team on the field. Their fans think they are the cream of the crop but all they showed me yesterday is their chippy trash talking and dirty play.

Wish we could play them every year bc they would never win a game.

[POD Knows]

Montana is a mediocre team on the field. Their fans think they are the cream of the crop but all they showed me yesterday is their chippy trash talking and dirty play.

Wish we could play them every year bc they would never win a game.
Odd team, lots of good athletes but it doesn’t seem to translate into meaningful wins.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Bison notebook: NDSU RB Kobe Johnson unleashes career-best performance against Montana - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports (https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/bison-notebook-7)


Against this defense coming in on Friday, it wouldn't surprise me if this happens again!!

xnodx

[ElCid]

Bison notebook: NDSU RB Kobe Johnson unleashes career-best performance against Montana - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports (https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/bison-notebook-7)


Against this defense coming in on Friday, it wouldn't surprise me if this happens again!!

xnodx

It's possible, but I think they have been hot and cold. They have some vulnerabilities, but I wouldn't totally judge them by this past weeks game. Overall, in the past it was fairly easy to wear down their D. They have given up lots of leads late over the years. This year they seem to have fixed this, a bit. At least compared to the past. I'd be more concerned in stopping their O. Not only are they the most prolific passing attack that NDSU will face to date, by far, they are the most efficient as well. The Bison may very well shut them down. But if they don't, then it could get to be a shooting match. I'm not sure what the status of Samford's QB is, but his backup picked up right where he left off. But he is obviously young. The setting might get him intimidated. Maybe a Samford guy could update us on Hiers. I don't think he will be 100% yet.

[FUBeAR]

It's possible, but I think they have been hot and cold. They have some vulnerabilities, but I wouldn't totally judge them by this past weeks game. Overall, in the past it was fairly easy to wear down their D. They have given up lots of leads late over the years. This year they seem to have fixed this, a bit. At least compared to the past. I'd be more concerned in stopping their O. Not only are they the most prolific passing attack that NDSU will face to date, by far, they are the most efficient as well. The Bison may very well shut them down. But if they don't, then it could get to be a shooting match. I'm not sure what the status of Samford's QB is, but his backup picked up right where he left off. But he is obviously young. The setting might get him intimidated. Maybe a Samford guy could update us on Hiers. I don't think he will be 100% yet.
Hiers started on Saturday, threw 2 complete passes, mixed in with a few handoffs, then threw a short incompletion, kind of a dump-off pass that was off target, walked off the field, straight to the Trainer, and never returned.

FUBeAR, not a medical professional (or a “Samford guy”), would not expect to see QB Hiers to be on the playing field for Samford in Fargo this Friday.

[ElCid]

Hiers started on Saturday, threw 2 complete passes, mixed in with a few handoffs, then threw a short incompletion, kind of a dump-off pass that was off target, walked off the field, straight to the Trainer, and never returned.

FUBAR, not a medical professional (or a “Samford guy”), would not expect to see QB Hiers to be on the playing field for Samford in Fargo this Friday.

Yeah I saw that and that's what I thought about the possibility, but hadn't heard anything official. Probably by design.

[1992Bison]

Yeah anybody can come in and win the first time

[caribbeanhen]

Hiers started on Saturday, threw 2 complete passes, mixed in with a few handoffs, then threw a short incompletion, kind of a dump-off pass that was off target, walked off the field, straight to the Trainer, and never returned.

FUBeAR, not a medical professional (or a “Samford guy”), would not expect to see QB Hiers to be on the playing field for Samford in Fargo this Friday.

saw that, after the first two passes I was thinking well he’s ok but yep.. he just walked off the field after that weird looking third pass... had a splint shoe horn device on his throwing wrist

[POD Knows]

saw that, after the first two passes I was thinking well he’s ok but yep.. he just walked off the field after that weird looking third pass... had a splint shoe horn device on his throwing wristTheir backup QB looks better to me anyway. I have only seen Samford play a couple times but he looked good in the SELA game.

[caribbeanhen]

Their backup QB looks better to me anyway. I have only seen Samford play a couple times but he looked good in the SELA game.

He played a great game, can scoot too. He will mysteriously crash and burn on Saturday though ... not really that mysterious but you know it

[POD Knows]

He played a great game, can scoot too. He will mysteriously crash and burn on Saturday though ... not really that mysterious but you know itNah, they will go 5 wide all game long, probably throw it 60 times, short routes because our LB's struggle with that, probably get 500 yards of passing, game is going to last 4 freaking hours and they win on a last minute drive against our seemingly helpless end of the half defense. #BOOKIT

[ElCid]

Their backup QB looks better to me anyway. I have only seen Samford play a couple times but he looked good in the SELA game.

Yeah, but he may have up for it, adrenaline flowing. Almost every time I've seen a backup QB get his shot recently, after a good first outing, the second seems wanting. The whole lacking experience thing catches up in a hurry. Not every time, but a lot. They will be soring lacking their starter's depth of experience.

[Bisonator]

Nah, they will go 5 wide all game long, probably throw it 60 times, short routes because our LB's struggle with that, probably get 500 yards of passing, game is going to last 4 freaking hours and they win on a last minute drive against our seemingly helpless end of the half defense. #BOOKIT
The QB running worries me more then any passing.

[POD Knows]

The QB running worries me more than any passing.
Yea. That too, the defensive ends opposite Waege seem to really have a hard time with containment. They are a good team on offense, no doubt. The Bison need to have long sustained drives to keep the O off the field. They seem to play a lot of no huddle stuff and that is tough to defend.

[caribbeanhen]

The QB running worries me more then any passing.

he’ll be running alright... for his life

[FUBeAR]

Their backup QB looks better to me anyway. I have only seen Samford play a couple times but he looked good in the SELA game.
Kinda hard for a Redshirt Freshman walk-on to be better than the unanimous SoCon Offensive Player of the Year and the 4th place Payton Award finisher.

He’s only played a very few plays in just a few games and his only meaningful plays have been played at home. He played 2 plays vs. Mercer, an ugly incompletion and a 25 yard game winning run where he was untouched for the 1st 20 yards. And, obviously, he played very well against SELA in the friendly confines. That ain’t the same as playing in the DEATHDome and SELA (#72 Total Defense) ain’t NDSU (#4 Total Defense).

Hope he and the HomewoodHounds SHOCK THE WORLD, but don’t see it happening. Would have been a HUGE, but within the realm of possibilities, task with Hiers; not so sure that mountain is scalable without him.

[Professor Chaos]

If Hiers isn't healthy I think Samford would really be boxing themselves in by playing him. Montana QB Lucas Johnson wasn't healthy last week and didn't make it until halftime - the NDSU playoff defense will most likely make life miserable for a hobbled QB. Crittendon is not only healthier but more mobile anyway and I think that gives the NDSU defense more issues than a more traditional passer.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

It's possible, but I think they have been hot and cold. They have some vulnerabilities, but I wouldn't totally judge them by this past weeks game. Overall, in the past it was fairly easy to wear down their D. They have given up lots of leads late over the years. This year they seem to have fixed this, a bit. At least compared to the past. I'd be more concerned in stopping their O. Not only are they the most prolific passing attack that NDSU will face to date, by far, they are the most efficient as well. The Bison may very well shut them down. But if they don't, then it could get to be a shooting match. I'm not sure what the status of Samford's QB is, but his backup picked up right where he left off. But he is obviously young. The setting might get him intimidated. Maybe a Samford guy could update us on Hiers. I don't think he will be 100% yet.


For the season they give up 442 yards/game which is 107/123 in the FCS. To me, that is a crappy defense. Now they have to defense NDSU's power running game with an infinite number of formations with their personal. Other SoCon fans can bloviate about how Samford sees all kinds of different offenses in their conference but almost no one runs A gap power with all the different formations that NDSU runs.

Heard the same thing last week about Montana's defense....that they were excellent against the run because their season average was so stellar. Well, the didn't have go against the Bison running game until it really counted in the playoffs and they got bitch slapped.

I'll be surprised if NDSU doesn't run for 400 yards in this game.

Same formula since the Bison went 1AA, run the ball and keep the other team's offense on the sideline.

[ElCid]

The QB running worries me more then any passing.

I was thinking the same thing.

[FUBeAR]

For the season they give up 442 yards/game which is 107/123 in the FCS. To me, that is a crappy defense. Now they have to defense NDSU's power running game with an infinite number of formations with their personal. Other SoCon fans can bloviate about how Samford sees all kinds of different offenses in their conference but almost no one runs A gap power with all the different formations that NDSU runs.

Heard the same thing last week about Montana's defense....that they were excellent against the run because their season average was so stellar. Well, the didn't have go against the Bison running game until it really counted in the playoffs and they got bitch slapped.

I'll be surprised if NDSU doesn't run for 400 yards in this game.

Same formula since the Bison went 1AA, run the ball and keep the other team's offense on the sideline.
SoCon Defenses do see a wide variety of Offenses

None of those Offenses run A-Gap Power and few(er and fewer) of them run the ball that well these days. FUBeAR gets excited when he sees any of them run a traditional (B-C gap) Power scheme.

Samford’s D is much improved from prior years. They have been BAD on D for many years despite having 1-3 future NFL Players on those Defenses almost every year. They will find stopping NDSU’s Power running game VERY challenging.

[SU DOG]

Kinda hard for a Redshirt Freshman walk-on to be better than the unanimous SoCon Offensive Player of the Year and the 4th place Payton Award finisher.

He’s only played a very few plays in just a few games and his only meaningful plays have been played at home. He played 2 plays vs. Mercer, an ugly incompletion and a 25 yard game winning run where he was untouched for the 1st 20 yards. And, obviously, he played very well against SELA in the friendly confines. That ain’t the same as playing in the DEATHDome and SELA (#72 Total Defense) ain’t NDSU (#4 Total Defense).

Hope he and the HomewoodHounds SHOCK THE WORLD, but don’t see it happening. Would have been a HUGE, but within the realm of possibilities, task with Hiers; not so sure that mountain is scalable without him.

Unfortunately, I would have to agree with this. Michael Hiers was ranked the #1 juco pro-style QB in the nation last year. This season he has broken the FCS record for completion percentage with a staggering 76.8%. The old record set in 2007 was 75.2%. He threw 431 passes with only 3 interceptions. That kind of passing is hard to do vs air. He is the heart and soul of this Samford Team. Now to say that Quincy Crittendon has been a wonderful surprise is an epic understatement. He was not heavily recruited out of HS and was actually more well known for basketball as he was an All-State Point Guard. Last year at Samford he was a walk-on scout team QB.

I would love to see Hiers play at 100% against NDSU, but don't think that is possible. This is NOT to say that would mean a win for us, but it might have given this kid some more recognition that he deserves. Can we at least be competitive without him? I honestly don't know. What I do know is that Michael Hiers is one of the very best passing QBs in the country - maybe in any division.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Samford's LBs I noticed:

#5
#22
#45

These guys are 227, 209, 212

NDSU's OL:

303
329
286
304
290

Lean on those small LBs and they will be gassed in the 2nd half.

[SU DOG]

I guess I am supposed to be on here bragging about how my team will stomp the next opponent. Sorry, but that is just not my nature. I'm probably older than 99% of the posters on here, so maybe that has something to do with it. We have had a great season and I am very proud of this team. I don't think our veteran players will be intimidated, after all we did play at the U of Georgia. Realistically, however, I cannot see how our defense can stop the NDSU power runs. Coming through those inside gaps it does look like a herd of Bison as the lead blockers mow down helpless defenders.

Not sandbagging, and hopefully not sounding too pathetic here, but I think you have to respect this elite NDSU program and what it has accomplished over the years. I'm proud to see my team play against these guys, and I never actually thought it would come about. I do firmly believe Samford has earned its ranking and this team has just found a way all year. Now, hopefully Samford will be competitive, and if so, then maybe anything could happen.

[dbackjon]

NDSU by 22

[SU DOG]

Samford's LBs I noticed:

#5
#22
#45

These guys are 227, 209, 212

NDSU's OL:

303
329
286
304
290

Lean on those small LBs and they will be gassed in the 2nd half.

Whoa! Let's get accurate here! In the first place, and I assume you mean starters, #45 is a backup LB. Check again and you will find that #32 is and has been our starting MLB. The other 2 are correct. So, we start #5 East 6-2, 227, #22 Devault Smith 6-3, 212, and #32 Martin 6-1, 224.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but going by the last NDSU game, your starting LBs are # 20 Wlodarczyk 6-3, 207, #26 Kaczor 6-0, 215, and #47 Weerts 6-1, 218.

So, our LBs are actually larger than those of NDSU, but you call ours "LITTLE"? NDSU has numerous advantages yes, but LB size must NOT be one of them.

[dewey]

Here is a great need Stat fr NDSU player play guy and local media guy Dom Izzo.


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#NerdStats: Samford will be the 11th different team #NDSU has played in the quarterfinals, third from SoCon. Teams. I just added the some of the years.

Eastern Washington (2010)
Lehigh (2011)
Wofford (‘12 and ‘17)
Coastal Carolina (‘13 and ‘14)
#UNI (2015)
#SDSU (2016)
Colgate (2018)
Illinois State (2019)
Sam Houston (spring 2021)
ETSU (2021)
Samford (2022)

https://mobile.twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/1599841778542137344?cxt=HHwWgMCqreHn47MsAAAA

Dewey

[dewey]

Whoa! Let's get accurate here! In the first place, and I assume you mean starters, #45 is a backup LB. Check again and you will find that #32 is and has been our starting MLB. The other 2 are correct. So, we start #5 East 6-2, 227, #22 Devault Smith 6-3, 212, and #32 Martin 6-1, 224.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but going by the last NDSU game, your starting LBs are # 20 Wlodarczyk 6-3, 207, #26 Kaczor 6-0, 215, and #47 Weerts 6-1, 218.

So, our LBs are actually larger than those of NDSU, but you call ours "LITTLE"? NDSU has numerous advantages yes, but LB size must NOT be one of them.

I think the intent was to compare the size of the Samford linebackers to that of the mammoth NDSU offensive line especially when it comes to the run game.

Dewey

[dewey]

Hey Samford fans, just curious as I haven't seen any of the dog games this year but what are your teams strengths and weaknesses?

For NDSU
Strength
1.Offensive line, tight ends, fullbacks and the running game.
2. Very experienced quarterback.
3. Pass defense especially in obvious pass situations as the pass rush is pretty good.

NDSU Weaknesses
1. NDSU passing game.
2. Stopping the run. This NDSU team is much more flawed than the previous 11 years teams but still very good.
3. Mobile quarterbacks that can elude the rush and s ramble for yards or to by more time to throw.

Dewey

[SU DOG]

Samford Strengths:

1. Passing game - but weakened somewhat by starting QB probably out.
2. Depth - Samford plays scads of players.
3. Turnover Margin - Led the SoCon with a +11.

Weaknesses:

1. Defense - both run and pass. It has improved this year, but still could be lots better.
2. Running Game - Especially lack of power running game.
3. Closing Out Games - So many times we have a good lead and get too conservative.

[KPSUL]

NDSU's OL: 303, 329, 286, 304, 290

These are pretty average weights now-a-days for FCS Offensive Linemen. If they are significantly better than most O-Lines, and I don't doubt they are, it is because of strength to weight ratio, quickness, technique, and maybe most of all the quality of coaching.

[POD Knows]

Whoa! Let's get accurate here! In the first place, and I assume you mean starters, #45 is a backup LB. Check again and you will find that #32 is and has been our starting MLB. The other 2 are correct. So, we start #5 East 6-2, 227, #22 Devault Smith 6-3, 212, and #32 Martin 6-1, 224.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but going by the last NDSU game, your starting LBs are # 20 Wlodarczyk 6-3, 207, #26 Kaczor 6-0, 215, and #47 Weerts 6-1, 218.

So, our LBs are actually larger than those of NDSU, but you call ours "LITTLE"? NDSU has numerous advantages yes, but LB size must NOT be one of them.
Our LBs are tiny and that has been a problem against the run. Our offense would put up 500 yards a game on the ground against our D.

[SU DOG]

Our LBs are tiny and that has been a problem against the run. Our offense would put up 500 yards a game on the ground against our D.

Your offense might put up 500 yds on the ground against a lot of defenses. LOL

[Professor Chaos]

It broke today that NDSU All-American fullback Hunter Luepke is done for the season and will miss the Senior Bowl as well after undergoing surgery on his injured shoulder. That's NDSU's 5th offensive starter to either suffer a season ending injury or transfer since the opening game.

[MSUBobcat]

It broke today that NDSU All-American fullback Hunter Luepke is done for the season and will miss the Senior Bowl as well after undergoing surgery on his injured shoulder. That's NDSU's 5th offensive starter to either suffer a season ending injury or transfer since the opening game.

Damn. Feel bad for the guy. Won't help his draft stock.

[caribbeanhen]

It broke today that NDSU All-American fullback Hunter Luepke is done for the season and will miss the Senior Bowl as well after undergoing surgery on his injured shoulder. That's NDSU's 5th offensive starter to either suffer a season ending injury or transfer since the opening game.

FCS legend and hope he gets back to playing some football

[FUBeAR]

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#NerdStats: Samford will be the 11th different team #NDSU has played in the quarterfinals, third from SoCon. Teams. I just added the some of the years.

Eastern Washington (2010)
Lehigh (2011)
Wofford (‘12 and ‘17)
Coastal Carolina (‘13 and ‘14)
#UNI (2015)
#SDSU (2016)
Colgate (2018)
Illinois State (2019)
Sam Houston (spring 2021)
ETSU (2021)
Samford (2022)

https://mobile.twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/1599841778542137344?cxt=HHwWgMCqreHn47MsAAAA

Dewey
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[Bisonoline]

Shrimp and Crawfish Gumbo will be served!!!!!!!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Whoa! Let's get accurate here! In the first place, and I assume you mean starters, #45 is a backup LB. Check again and you will find that #32 is and has been our starting MLB. The other 2 are correct. So, we start #5 East 6-2, 227, #22 Devault Smith 6-3, 212, and #32 Martin 6-1, 224.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but going by the last NDSU game, your starting LBs are # 20 Wlodarczyk 6-3, 207, #26 Kaczor 6-0, 215, and #47 Weerts 6-1, 218.

So, our LBs are actually larger than those of NDSU, but you call ours "LITTLE"? NDSU has numerous advantages yes, but LB size must NOT be one of them.


Yes, ours are small and it is one reason why the run defense has been very suspect this year. But I always compare the opponents front 7 vs the Bison OL, because that is where most Bison games are won.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

NDSU's OL: 303, 329, 286, 304, 290

These are pretty average weights now-a-days for FCS Offensive Linemen. If they are significantly better than most O-Lines, and I don't doubt they are, it is because of strength to weight ratio, quickness, technique, and maybe most of all the quality of coaching.


But what separates them is quickness, leverage, flexibility, play to the whistle and toughness.

You can have big fat guys that are completely worthless and many OLs that come in here are just that.

Plus 2 starters are out for the Bison on the OL. Depth is what they have.

[BisonBacker]

NDSU's OL: 303, 329, 286, 304, 290

These are pretty average weights now-a-days for FCS Offensive Linemen. If they are significantly better than most O-Lines, and I don't doubt they are, it is because of strength to weight ratio, quickness, technique, and maybe most of all the quality of coaching.

NDSU has been blessed with I believe to be the best Strength and Conditioning coach at the FCS level and would be I believe one of the top at the FBS level as well. We've been lucky to keep him on staff through all the coaching changes.

[Bisonator]

Any Samford fans making the trip to Fargo? Be sure to hit the tailgate lots!

[Winterborn]

Shrimp and Crawfish Gumbo will be served!!!!!!!

The one home game I will miss all year and you put forth one of the best tailgating meals. xsmhx

Seriously, if any of you Samford fans make it up for the game, swing by O-lines tailgating spot. The food is top notch!

[Winterborn]

It's tough to understand unless you're experiencing it but there's a definite "been there done that" and "is this all there is?" mentality with the NDSU fan base. I don't have that feeling since I want to give credit and support to all the current NDSU players that are working just as hard as the championship trailblazers of the early 2010s did and it's not fair to them to be so dismissive of their accomplishments. Fewer and fewer Bison fans each year feel the same it seems... I quit worrying about the bored/spoiled Bison fans years ago though. I'm sure exactly zero people feel sorry for us. ;)

Same here.

I have been following the team since Grad school and it never gets old to me. I feel like I enjoy it more now than back then since I understand football a bit more and the plays start to make sense. But then I do understand the people that have family activities going on and choose to prioritize that instead. I think the rise in ticket costs over the last decade has also cut back into those that can attend (especially family's) and would love to see some of the higher seats in the Dome drop in price to help bring those that want to bring a family to a game.

[FUBeAR]

Any Samford fans making the trip to Fargo? Be sure to hit the tailgate lots!
Very few Samford fans make the trip to their home games in Homewood, AL and way, way fewer travel to such far off destinations as Macon, GA or Greenville, SC. Will be surprised in the Bulldogs hit triple digits for their number of fans in Fargo.

[Winterborn]

The only conferences remotely near are the B1G and the Big 12 and neither of those would even consider NDSU if we're being honest. The closest realistic fits would be the MAC or the MWC but they're the only two G5 conferences virtually untouched by realignment (although that could be changing soon for the MWC). I've heard plenty of Bison fans claiming that the MWC is a "perfect" fit for NDSU but it's far from perfect with Wyoming (at a mere 800 miles) being the closest. The only benefit is almost everyone in that conference is a flight away from each other so it wouldn't be as big of a hit for them to expand their geographic footprint to North Dakota.

I want nothing to do with the MAC or MWC. MWC looks decent on paper but when one starts to consider game times and travel (away games), it is going to be even harder for the family's and the non-diehard fans to participate. A program needs to account and work with all the different levels of fandom to help elevate the program. It was easy at NDSU in the beginning as one could just about do no wrong but now it has come back to Earth and leadership needs to start (if they have not already) more than just the die-hards. As one is not going to keep up donations and levels of support by only relying on them.

Going South or East is the only real options I think, but that has its own level of difficulties due to the conferences that reside there.

[Professor Chaos]

Yes, ours are small and it is one reason why the run defense has been very suspect this year. But I always compare the opponents front 7 vs the Bison OL, because that is where most Bison games are won.
They've had small LBs for the most part ever since Klieman took over; I think it's intentional so they can stay in base defense against 3 WR sets and not have such big mismatches with a LB on a slot receiver. The difference in the past is they've had DL, DTs specifically, that kept those undersized LBs free to run and make tackles in the run game. That's been a problem this year but it is getting better I think since there's a bunch of young guys at DT that now have a full season+ of experience. Might get some help in that department soon as well as Entz is hinting that Eli Mostaert is getting close to a return.

[NDSUKurt]

I want nothing to do with the MAC or MWC. MWC looks decent on paper but when one starts to consider game times and travel (away games), it is going to be even harder for the family's and the non-diehard fans to participate. A program needs to account and work with all the different levels of fandom to help elevate the program. It was easy at NDSU in the beginning as one could just about do no wrong but now it has come back to Earth and leadership needs to start (if they have not already) more than just the die-hards. As one is not going to keep up donations and levels of support by only relying on them.

Going South or East is the only real options I think, but that has its own level of difficulties due to the conferences that reside there.

I agree with you to a point. The Mountain West is just as far for travel as the MAC. However, there are more "destination cities" with large airports that are in close proximity of Mountain West teams compared to the MAC. Denver, Las Vegas, Salt Lake City are more desirable for me to fly into as opposed to Columbus, Ohio, Indianapolis, Indiana, etc.

Having said this, as an NDSU grad that started being a Bison in 2003 - the transition year to D-I, I personally want a way to be developed for an entire group of FCS teams to move up together to form a new FBS conference. This way, NDSU can have the rivalries that I remember (sorry, but to me, the UND game is not important at all - its SDSU or bust).

If NDSU, SDSU, UNI, Montana, Montana State, Weber State, UND, Illinois State, Eastern Wash (I know about their funding issues), Missouri State, and maybe a couple more could move up together, I would be all for it, and then I would start making more significant financial contributions to NDSU.

[JacksFan40]

I want nothing to do with the MAC or MWC. MWC looks decent on paper but when one starts to consider game times and travel (away games), it is going to be even harder for the family's and the non-diehard fans to participate. A program needs to account and work with all the different levels of fandom to help elevate the program. It was easy at NDSU in the beginning as one could just about do no wrong but now it has come back to Earth and leadership needs to start (if they have not already) more than just the die-hards. As one is not going to keep up donations and levels of support by only relying on them.

Going South or East is the only real options I think, but that has its own level of difficulties due to the conferences that reside there.
Those are the only two feasible conferences for NDSU to move-up, because neither the Big Ten or Big 12 are going to invite NDSU anytime soon. The MWC covers the same geographic area as what the old Great West did, and what the current Big Sky does. People seem okay with the idea of having been in the Big Sky, but are against the MWC. NDSU fans need to realize that a geographically perfect FBS conference is not going to suddenly appear from thin air, you are going to have to compromise if you want in the FBS.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

They've had small LBs for the most part ever since Klieman took over; I think it's intentional so they can stay in base defense against 3 WR sets and not have such big mismatches with a LB on a slot receiver. The difference in the past is they've had DL, DTs specifically, that kept those undersized LBs free to run and make tackles in the run game. That's been a problem this year but it is getting better I think since there's a bunch of young guys at DT that now have a full season+ of experience. Might get some help in that department soon as well as Entz is hinting that Eli Mostaert is getting close to a return.


I tend to agree with this but those other "small" LBs were also much better athletes compared to this group.

[Winterborn]

I agree with you to a point. The Mountain West is just as far for travel as the MAC. However, there are more "destination cities" with large airports that are in close proximity of Mountain West teams compared to the MAC. Denver, Las Vegas, Salt Lake City are more desirable for me to fly into as opposed to Columbus, Ohio, Indianapolis, Indiana, etc.

Having said this, as an NDSU grad that started being a Bison in 2003 - the transition year to D-I, I personally want a way to be developed for an entire group of FCS teams to move up together to form a new FBS conference. This way, NDSU can have the rivalries that I remember (sorry, but to me, the UND game is not important at all - its SDSU or bust).

If NDSU, SDSU, UNI, Montana, Montana State, Weber State, UND, Illinois State, Eastern Wash (I know about their funding issues), Missouri State, and maybe a couple more could move up together, I would be all for it, and then I would start making more significant financial contributions to NDSU.

I do not disagree on the travel portion, but while they may be destination locations, people are still going to have to pick and choose what games they go to. The cost for fans just goes up which means they are going to get more choosy on events to attend. A fan that chooses to attend an away game in Denver, may not be attending as many home games just due to people only have so much spending money. People going to a destination will rightly so probably work a vacation into it, thereby cutting even further into their spending allowance. Now for some, that will not matter, but for others it will be a deciding condition. Luckily we as fans do not need to juggle the different potential revenue impacts a jump up to FBS will have on the team, but for the people making those decisions, it will be (is) part of the scope that a move from FCS to FBS needs to consider. Knowing that we need to move from FCS to FBS is the only easy choice in the entire process, IMHO.

If we could jump up as a group and/or pull of the closer FBS teams into a regional conference I think that would be the best case scenario. Will that happen? With the current landscape of teams and conferences, I highly doubt it. In a couple of years, that landscape may look completely different and other avenues of moving up may become more likely.

[Winterborn]

Those are the only two feasible conferences for NDSU to move-up, because neither the Big Ten or Big 12 are going to invite NDSU anytime soon. The MWC covers the same geographic area as what the old Great West did, and what the current Big Sky does. People seem okay with the idea of having been in the Big Sky, but are against the MWC. NDSU fans need to realize that a geographically perfect FBS conference is not going to suddenly appear from thin air, you are going to have to compromise if you want in the FBS.

Big Sky was okay to some of the more vocal fans, but considering the travel costs UND went through to play in that conference, I am happy we didn't go that route, nor would I advocate it from a cost standpoint.

I agree there is no perfect fit now (and probably not in the future) but one has to consider multiple areas before such a move is made (see my post above). I am all for moving up, IF it makes financial sense for the school. I am not a fan of moving up for bragging rights (which there are some vocal folks for that), and would rather play in FCS and just enjoy what we have. Making a decision based on ego (FBS) is never a good choice, IMHO.

This whole decision is more what is good for the school as a whole, than what us fans want.

[Paladin1aa]

This will be a blowout. Bison BIG !

[SU DOG]

This will be a blowout. Bison BIG !

Could happen yeah, BUT if it does, we will have lost to the most well respected, tradition richest, and winningest program in the history of FCS football. Also, it will not diminish one iota of respect for the year our team has had, the ranking we rightly deserved, or quality of the conference that we play in.

[JacksFan40]

Big Sky was okay to some of the more vocal fans, but considering the travel costs UND went through to play in that conference, I am happy we didn't go that route, nor would I advocate it from a cost standpoint.

I agree there is no perfect fit now (and probably not in the future) but one has to consider multiple areas before such a move is made (see my post above). I am all for moving up, IF it makes financial sense for the school. I am not a fan of moving up for bragging rights (which there are some vocal folks for that), and would rather play in FCS and just enjoy what we have. Making a decision based on ego (FBS) is never a good choice, IMHO.

This whole decision is more what is good for the school as a whole, than what us fans want.
I think the issue is that if NDSU waits too long, it may never end up happening. Last I saw the MWC pays $4 million per member, which I’m assuming is light years ahead of the MVFC/Summit revenue distribution. Would this be enough to offset travel costs and turn a greater profit compared to staying FCS? I’m not sure.

You also need to factor in that NDSU would be in the Mountain division for football, meaning trips to Hawaii and the California schools would not be frequent. Looking at the distances on Google Maps, places like Wyoming, Colorado State, and Air Force are closer than some of the MVFC teams. As for the other sports like basketball, I’m not sure what the total cost would be.

Its a risky jump, but so was going from the geographically compact NCC to the Great West for football, and Independent for almost all other sports, but it seemed to work out pretty well.

[SteelSD]

I think the intent was to compare the size of the Samford linebackers to that of the mammoth NDSU offensive line especially when it comes to the run game.

Dewey
To be fair SDSU’s largest LB is Bock at 215#. The rest of our corp is in the 200-205 range. We are built with large DT’s to eat up blocks and let the athletic LB’s run. Now I have no idea is Sanford is built this way, but smaller LB’s seem to be far more common in todays game. Heck our starting WR’s are bigger than a large portion of our LB’s.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Samford starting QB unclear heading into playoff showdown with Bison - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports (https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/samford-starting-qb-unclear-heading-into-playoff-showdown-with-bison)

[AmsterBison]

Samford starting QB unclear heading into playoff showdown with Bison - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports (https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/samford-starting-qb-unclear-heading-into-playoff-showdown-with-bison)

From what I saw of Crittendon, he's the better option for the Bison game.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

McFeely: Samford coach tutored by Mike Leach, so expect football in the air at Fargodome - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports (https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/mcfeely-samford-coach-tutored-by-mike-leach-so-expect-football-in-the-air-at-fargodome)


Over/under # of passes by Samford: 45

Higher or lower?

[ElCid]

McFeely: Samford coach tutored by Mike Leach, so expect football in the air at Fargodome - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports (https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/mcfeely-samford-coach-tutored-by-mike-leach-so-expect-football-in-the-air-at-fargodome)


Over/under # of passes by Samford: 45

Higher or lower?

Higher.

[FUBeAR]

Higher.
Higher if Hiers

Lower if Crittendon

[POD Knows]

McFeely: Samford coach tutored by Mike Leach, so expect football in the air at Fargodome - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports (https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/mcfeely-samford-coach-tutored-by-mike-leach-so-expect-football-in-the-air-at-fargodome)


Over/under # of passes by Samford: 45

Higher or lower?
And it will be 10:30 before you get out the dome because NDSU will have 3 play scoring drives and Samford will have the ball all the time with clock stoppages up the ass.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

And it will be 10:30 before you get out the dome because NDSU will have 3 play scoring drives and Samford will have the ball all the time with clock stoppages up the ass.


NDSU had 4 huge yardage runs against Montana. Will they have the same or more against this worse defense?

[SU DOG]

NDSU had 4 huge yardage runs against Montana. Will they have the same or more against this worse defense?

And the most prolific runner was Kobe Johnson. On the NDSU player roster it says that Johnson was coached in HS in Georgia by former NFL WR Efrem Hill. What it doesn't tell you is that Hill was an All-American that played for Samford University and was inducted into the school's Sports Hall of Fame in 2020.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

And the most prolific runner was Kobe Johnson. On the NDSU player roster it says that Johnson was coached in HS in Georgia by former NFL WR Efrem Hill. What it doesn't tell you is that Hill was an All-American that played for Samford University and was inducted into the school's Sports Hall of Fame in 2020.



And this correlates how with this upcoming game?

[POD Knows]

NDSU had 4 huge yardage runs against Montana. Will they have the same or more against this worse defense?
Probably less. I think they stay in a more standard defensive alignment than the chaos of the Montana defense. Be harder to get to the next level than it was against Montana

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Probably less. I think they stay in a more standard defensive alignment than the chaos of the Montana defense. Be harder to get to the next level than it was against Montana


4 or more 60+ yard runs is a tall order but I think the Bison easily go for over 300+ and probably over 400+ IMO.

[POD Knows]

4 or more 60+ yard runs is a tall order but I think the Bison easily go for over 300+ and probably over 400+ IMO.
I could see that and I hope they do it 5 yards at a time

[SU DOG]

And this correlates how with this upcoming game?

Oh not nearly as well as your INACCURATE listing of our "little" LBs I suppose. I just thought it was a little tidbit that some might find interesting. So sorry that it isn't deemed thread-worthy in your opinion.

[POD Knows]

And the most prolific runner was Kobe Johnson. On the NDSU player roster it says that Johnson was coached in HS in Georgia by former NFL WR Efrem Hill. What it doesn't tell you is that Hill was an All-American that played for Samford University and was inducted into the school's Sports Hall of Fame in 2020.
Cliche but it is a pretty small world sometimes.

[gofurman]

It broke today that NDSU All-American fullback Hunter Luepke is done for the season and will miss the Senior Bowl as well after undergoing surgery on his injured shoulder. That's NDSU's 5th offensive starter to either suffer a season ending injury or transfer since the opening game.

that stinks. I wish all teams full health. I wish Samford had their starting QB (Heirs and they may though I doubt he is near 100% - I am sure they wish they had the option of whom to play). Likewise, I certainly wish Luepke was healthy as I know he is a stud. I saw he was top 3 on an H-back list that had Furman's Ryan Miller as number 10 or so. This was list from the NFL "draft guru" with the large forehead.. oh yeah, Mel Kiper I think. LOL

Anyway, I think some people underestimate how much missing a guy can hurt (even if just for a half or quarter) especially at FCS level. Game changer.

Here it is, found it. Luepke at #1.. THAT IS FREAKIN AMAZING. WOW xnodxxnodx:

Fullbacks/H-backs

1. Hunter Luepke (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4383396/hunter-luepke), North Dakota State
2. Josh Whyle (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4360086/josh-whyle), Cincinnati
3. Jaheim Bell (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4429262/jaheim-bell), South Carolina
4. Brayden Willis (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4360290/brayden-willis), Oklahoma
5. Brant Kuithe (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4361014/brant-kuithe), Utah
6. Arik Gilbert (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4428994/arik-gilbert), Georgia
7. Ryan Jones (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4241387/ryan-jones), East Carolina
8. Monte Pottebaum (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4360506/monte-pottebaum), Iowa
9. Tyrick James (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4361796/tyrick-james), Tulane
10. Ryan Miller (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4369466/ryan-miller), Furman

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2023/insider/story/_/id/34633986/2023-nfl-draft-rankings-mel-kiper-big-board-top-prospects-every-position#pos

( you have to have ESPN+ for article so I posted the list above for you ...

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Oh not nearly as well as your INACCURATE listing of our "little" LBs I suppose. I just thought it was a little tidbit that some might find interesting. So sorry that it isn't deemed thread-worthy in your opinion.


I didn't go and watch every single minute of every game Samford had this year but my point is still correct. And yes, the Bison do have small LBs also and that is one reason why IMO, the defense against the run has been suspect at times this year. Another Bison fan pointed out the play of the young DL is also a factor, and he's correct.

This game is going to come down to your front 7 on defense vs our OL, plain and simple. If Samford cannot stop the run, they will get steamrolled. I'm not worried about our defense against your pass happy offense because the strength of the defense is the secondary and our pass rush has improved. NDSU gives up around 18 points/game and maybe Samford might have 3 TDs. Will that be enough to win....we'll see.

[Professor Chaos]

that stinks. I wish all teams full health. I wish Samford had their starting QB (Heirs and they may though I doubt he is near 100% - I am sure they wish they had the option of whom to play). Likewise, I certainly wish Luepke was healthy as I know he is a stud. I saw he was top 3 on an H-back list that had Furman's Ryan Miller as number 10 or so. This was list from the NFL "draft guru" with the large forehead.. oh yeah, Mel Kiper I think. LOL

Anyway, I think some people underestimate how much missing a guy can hurt (even if just for a half or quarter) especially at FCS level. Game changer.

Here it is, found it. Luepke at #1.. THAT IS FREAKIN AMAZING. WOW xnodxxnodx:

Fullbacks/H-backs

1. Hunter Luepke (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4383396/hunter-luepke), North Dakota State
2. Josh Whyle (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4360086/josh-whyle), Cincinnati
3. Jaheim Bell (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4429262/jaheim-bell), South Carolina
4. Brayden Willis (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4360290/brayden-willis), Oklahoma
5. Brant Kuithe (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4361014/brant-kuithe), Utah
6. Arik Gilbert (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4428994/arik-gilbert), Georgia
7. Ryan Jones (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4241387/ryan-jones), East Carolina
8. Monte Pottebaum (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4360506/monte-pottebaum), Iowa
9. Tyrick James (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4361796/tyrick-james), Tulane
10. Ryan Miller (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4369466/ryan-miller), Furman

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2023/insider/story/_/id/34633986/2023-nfl-draft-rankings-mel-kiper-big-board-top-prospects-every-position#pos

( you have to have ESPN+ for article so I posted the list above for you ...


You're right that it's never a good thing to lose an All-American but he had played sparingly ever since about mid-October due to a more minor injury and they still put up 800 rush yards in their last two games without him altogether. His absence actually hurts them more in the pass game as he was fantastic out of the backfield and routinely torched LBs that were late getting on him on seam and wheel routes. He and TE Noah Gindorff (also an NFL prospect) were Bison QB Cam Miller's security blankets and both are done for the year now.

I don't think NDSU gets by JMU last year without Luepke. This year they'll have to figure out a way if they're going to keep the train rolling.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

You're right that it's never a good thing to lose an All-American but he had played sparingly ever since about mid-October due to a more minor injury and they still put up 800 rush yards in their last two games without him altogether. His absence actually hurts them more in the pass game as he was fantastic out of the backfield and routinely torched LBs that were late getting on him on seam and wheel routes. He and TE Noah Gindorff (also an NFL prospect) were Bison QB Cam Miller's security blankets and both are done for the year now.

I don't think NDSU gets by JMU last year without Luepke. This year they'll have to figure out a way if they're going to keep the train rolling.


Luepke
Gindorff
Miller
Sundell
Mostaert

Pro prospects and AA caliber for all them lost for the Bison. Big hit for sure but depth has really helped.

[SU DOG]

I didn't go and watch every single minute of every game Samford had this year but my point is still correct. And yes, the Bison do have small LBs also and that is one reason why IMO, the defense against the run has been suspect at times this year. Another Bison fan pointed out the play of the young DL is also a factor, and he's correct.

This game is going to come down to your front 7 on defense vs our OL, plain and simple. If Samford cannot stop the run, they will get steamrolled. I'm not worried about our defense against your pass happy offense because the strength of the defense is the secondary and our pass rush has improved. NDSU gives up around 18 points/game and maybe Samford might have 3 TDs. Will that be enough to win....we'll see.

I would completely agree with you about us trying to stop the powerful Bison run game. Just to slow it down and prevent the explosive play would maybe be the best we can hope for. We have not shown a consistent run stop ability this season, but we have stiffened in the Red Zone numerous times. I would say that if Hiers is 100% that NDSU will not stop the Samford passing attack. Not saying that this would be enough for the upset, just that it is an incredibly efficient offense. The speed with which he releases the ball, his deadly accuracy, and the routes that the receivers run have not been stymied in our FCS games this year. Our backup QB might be a slightly better runner, but Hiers is the leader of this team.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

McFeely: Five things to watch in the Bison-Samford game - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports (https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/mcfeely-five-things-to-watch-in-the-bison-samford-game)

[Bisonator]

I would completely agree with you about us trying to stop the powerful Bison run game. Just to slow it down and prevent the explosive play would maybe be the best we can hope for. We have not shown a consistent run stop ability this season, but we have stiffened in the Red Zone numerous times. I would say that if Hiers is 100% that NDSU will not stop the Samford passing attack. Not saying that this would be enough for the upset, just that it is an incredibly efficient offense. The speed with which he releases the ball, his deadly accuracy, and the routes that the receivers run have not been stymied in our FCS games this year. Our backup QB might be a slightly better runner, but Hiers is the leader of this team.
Heard the same from Sammy fans back in 2017 when they had Briscoe and some really talented receivers. Passing teams don't usually fair too well against NDSU. EWU in 2016 gave us fits, that's about the only one I can remember. That same year Montana had Bobs Titts high speed offense come to Fargo in the playoffs and they got shut down pretty good. Mobile QB's are bigger issues for us.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Bison GameDay!!!

Get a new team in the Dome tonight so that is refreshing...instead of another Valley team.

Bison: Run the ball and play action pass!!

Should see some fellow Bison AGSers tonight!

[SUPharmacist]

NDSU Hype video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zj33dITerH8

[dewey]

NDSU Hype video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zj33dITerH8

NDSU creates some fantastic videos!

Dewey

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Game Time!

Can Samford survive physically?

[SeattleCat]

NDSU by 40.

[TheKingpin28]

Jay Walker, bleh...

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

3 and out and Hatcher is already blaming the refs....

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

NDSU should run it every play....

[TheKingpin28]

Can't stop the sweep so throw is multiple times...

Tyler Roehl is beyond incompetent.

[deez_na]

Does Tyler try to keep games close on purpose or ?

[SeattleCat]

Can't stop the sweep so throw is multiple times...

Tyler Roehl is beyond incompetent.

Our OC get cute and thinks we should throw 3times in a row too, you know after running for 9 yards a carry.

[caribbeanhen]

The Critter is gonna have a long night

[TheKingpin28]

Our OC get cute and thinks we should throw 3times in a row too, you know after running for 9 yards a carry.

Power A-Gap could be working and the guy will run out of the shotgun and throw 3 hail mary's since "they probably won't see it coming, so they can't stop something new".

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Samford has no chance if NDSU simply plays to their strengths....

[TheKingpin28]

Man, some serious holding by that Samford line, but if they won't call it, then it needs to be both ways.

[SeattleCat]

I feel like NDSU's DT might eat someone.

[TheKingpin28]

Stop running **** out of the shotgun. Under center is the bread and butter, not this RPO ****ery.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Wow! Bison QB nearly got killed...

[TheKingpin28]

Mauch needs to pick that up

[caribbeanhen]

Wow! Bison QB nearly got killed...

that was a big hit

Samford came to play some D

[crusader11]

Does Entz not have the skilled players to open this up a bit more? Can Cam Miller not get them the ball reliably?

I know the desire to control the game on the ground and wear our a defense by continuing to pound them, just seems limiting.

[TheKingpin28]

Does Entz not have the skilled players to open this up a bit more? Can Cam Miller not get them the ball reliably?

I know the desire to control the game on the ground and wear our a defense by continuing to pound them, just seems limiting.

Both are done for the season in Luepke and Gindorff.

[Winterborn]

Sitting in an Irish bar in NYC, drinking Guinness, and watching the Bison. Life don't get much better. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221210/b948827a33d09b06e93552a6302aeafb.jpg

[crusader11]

It could be better if you weren't in NYC.

[ysubigred]

Oooff.. this game is like watching paint dry.

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[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Sam Houston State BOBcats?

[TheKingpin28]

Sam Houston Bobcats...

Jay Walker is washed

[TheKingpin28]

Samford likes bringing the house.

[TheKingpin28]

Why is Kobe trying to stretch for an extra 3 ****ing inches?

[crusader11]

Just waiting for Jay Walker to go on a diatribe about how FAMU was robbed of an at-large bid and that the MEAC/SWAC don't get enough respect. It'll happen midway through the second quarter.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

No review?!?! This happened in a game last week iirc where they failed to review an obvious play that needed to be reviewed....

[deez_na]

wasnt his knee down?

[TheKingpin28]

These refs are allowing Samford to get away with massive holding on each play.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

These refs are allowing Samford to get away with massive holding on each play.

looked like a blatant block in the back on a swing pass too...

[SeattleCat]

I thought his knee was down live, but after the 2nd angle on the replay looks like a good call.

[TheKingpin28]

looked like a blatant block in the back on a swing pass too...

I mean on that scramble, at least 3 players were held. Holy ****, these refs are blind and/or paid off.

[SeattleCat]

Samford's QB is going to get himself killed

[Retro]

Is the camera work on this game bad or what?

[TheKingpin28]

Ball don't lie refs, ball don't lie

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

The entire right side of the Samford line got destroyed on that FG attempt....

[TheKingpin28]

Is the camera work on this game bad or what?

They hit up the Bud Light in the Fargodome before the game, only logical conclusion.

[ElCid]

I mean on that scramble, at least 3 players were held. Holy ****, these refs are blind and/or paid off.

Dude, don't blame the refs. Your Bison glasses are tinting your view.

[TheKingpin28]

Dude, don't blame the refs. Your Bison glasses are tinting your view.

Your SoCon view glasses are tinted then as well.

[deez_na]

Bison don’t look good right now but yeah, definitely some holding going on. Roehl needs to stick to our strengths and don’t get fancy

[dbackjon]

I thought this was going to be a high scoring game?

[SeattleCat]

Your SoCon view glasses are tinted then as well.

eh, They are a Big Sky crew... could be a whole lot worse from what I've seen out of those boys.

[ElCid]

Your SoCon view glasses are tinted then as well.

Every time I see certain teams not perform up to expectations, the refs get blamed. Old news. Haven't seen any gross miscalls. Holding? You can call it every play. Consistency is the key.

[SeattleCat]

eh, They are a Big Sky crew... could be a whole lot worse from what I've seen out of those boys.
like that. That was PI

[ElCid]

like that. That was PI

Not even close. Try again. Actually could have been called on rcvr for holding. He grabbed the defender.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Wow! NDSU gets stuffed on 4th down!

[crusader11]

Sneaking it on 4th and 2?

This game isn't reflecting well on FCS football.

[deez_na]

Disappointing. We should have 100 yards on the ground already

[caribbeanhen]

Dude, don't blame the refs. Your Bison glasses are tinting your view.

thanks for saying it

Bison getting beat at LOS

[TheKingpin28]

Would someone fire Tyler Roehl?

His gameplan, as usual, does nothing but make us shake our heads.

[TheKingpin28]

Every time I see certain teams not perform up to expectations, the refs get blamed. Old news. Haven't seen any gross miscalls. Holding? You can call it every play. Consistency is the key.

When other fans are seeing the same missed calls I am, your glasses are tinted, not mine.

[caribbeanhen]

The Critter Bug

[uofmman1122]

Incredibly impressed with Samford so far.

[TheKingpin28]

Nice hold on the center on the scramble

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Would someone fire Tyler Roehl?

His gameplan, as usual, does nothing but make us shake our heads.

Very rarely in college do you see a QB sneak play without "pushers". That design was flawed. In the NFL there's often a business decision involved. Brady does all the work himself. NDSU's QB is not Brady...

[TheKingpin28]

Very rarely in college do you see a QB sneak play without "pushers". That design was flawed. In the NFL there's often a business decision involved. Brady does all the work himself. NDSU's QB is not Brady...

Tyler Roehl should not even call a high school offense game. That isn't on Cam, that's on Roehl thinking he is smarter than everyone else in the building.

[Bison56]

Terrible call on 4th down with that distance.

[Puddin Tane]

Bison look gassed

[deez_na]

Tyler Roehl should not even call a high school offense game. That isn't on Cam, that's on Roehl thinking he is smarter than everyone else in the building.

He better get his crap together at halftime. This is inexcusable

[TheKingpin28]

That looked like a missed facemask

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

NDSU defense holds. This game seems to be similar to NDSU playoff games in the past. Take a 10-0 or so lead into a half and win 30-7....

[TheKingpin28]

He better get his crap together at halftime. This is inexcusable

Just remember, Entz said, those of us who call out our OC or DC are not real fans and not welcomed at the Fargodome since the fearless leader himself knows what's best.

[uofmman1122]

That looked like a missed facemask
Seems to happen a lot in Fargo xlolx

(I'm just making a joke, please don't take this seriously)

[deez_na]

NDSU defense holds. This game seems to be similar to NDSU playoff games in the past. Take a 10-0 or so lead into a half and win 30-7....

Tyler keeps this play calling we won’t score 30, we should be punishing this defense. Frustrating to watch

[KPSUL]

That looked like a missed facemask

Somebody grabbed something, but no on complained on the Samford side - probably not

[deez_na]

Just remember, Entz said, those of us who call out our OC or DC are not real fans and not welcomed at the Fargodome since the fearless leader himself knows what's best.

Yeah well, there is good reason we call it out at times. Oh well

[TheKingpin28]

Seems to happen a lot in Fargo xlolx

(I'm just making a joke, please don't take this seriously)

That and late hits... Haha, I got this one.

[TheKingpin28]

Wow, who knew, put 9 in the box and throw and get a first down. Time for a run for 2 yards.

[uofmman1122]

Good god, 2 minutes of game time and 20 minutes of commercials.

[Bison56]

Terrible call on 4th down with that distance.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

NDSU QB nearly got himself killed that time....

[TheKingpin28]

Throw the ****ing ball away!

[deez_na]

Holy F**** Miller

- - - Updated - - -

He had 10 mins to throw that ball away but nope

[TheKingpin28]

Oh Mathis, you had 6. Great catch though

[Karl Havoc]

Is the cameraman drunk?

[TheKingpin28]

T-Mac on crutches, damn...

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Why is NDSU trying to run Tebow QB power? I don't understand their running game tonight....

[TheKingpin28]

Can't wait to hear Phil's commentary on this game.

[TheKingpin28]

Why is NDSU trying to run Tebow QB power? I don't understand their running game tonight....

Cause Tyler Roehl is a genius

[TheKingpin28]

I should not be allowed to drink Yuengling when I watch Bison football.

[TheKingpin28]

Finally...

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

TD Bison on a nice play action setup. Even so, Bison definitely utilizing some unique approaches tonight....

[Daytripper]

Just tuned in. 7-0 near the end of the 2nd quarter?? There must be a glitch in the matrix...or Samford is damn good.

[deez_na]

Just get the W and get our heads out of our a**** for the next round

[Daytripper]

I'm looking for ice picks to jam into my ears with these announcers.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

no Bison timeout?

[ElCid]

Bison reduced to throwing it apparently. Samford held them to 52 yards rushing in first half. So much for Samford's "bad" defense. But I'm sure all the Bison faithful will blame it on their mistakes or bad play calling.

[TheKingpin28]

no Bison timeout?

Fumble for a TD!

[TheKingpin28]

Damn, he was down.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

he's down...definitely down...

[BisonFan02]

Fumble for a TD!

He's down.

[caribbeanhen]

Samford not excited about trying to move the ball on that series

[SeattleCat]

Samford looks like they're giving up.

[TheKingpin28]

Cam wasted 10 seconds for 2 yards. xsmhx

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Why not run it?!?! You have 2 timeouts! Samford was giving them a 10 yard run. TB did it the other night against New Orleans....

[TheKingpin28]

Cam wasted 15 seconds for 5 yards. He is having an absolute garbage game.

[Bison56]

F team camera crew and commentators. Sad.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Cam wasted 10 seconds for 2 yards. xsmhx

Should have immediately run it or have a designed hand off. Samford was playing safe. They could have gapped them for 10-15 yards....

[TheKingpin28]

Now Mathis is hurt on a cheapshot.

[ElCid]

And that last play didn't have holding all over by the Bison? Looked about the same as what saw the other way. But no mention by anyone here huh?

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

There's my 10-0 at the half...still feeling 30-7 when it's all said and done....

[TheKingpin28]

And that last play didn't have holding all over by the Bison? Looked about the same as what saw the other way. But no mention by anyone here huh?

I called out the facemask earlier that was missed. At least I am trying to be neutral about it.

[MSUBobcat]

I'm looking for ice picks to jam into my ears with these announcers.

Glad I only get closed captioning at the bar we are pregaming at. Only have to read gems like, "the team who adapts in the second half is going to find the success they are looking for."

[BisonFan02]

I called out the facemask earlier that was missed. At least I am trying to be neutral about it.

If you're talking that 4th down play for Samford...there was no facemask....horse collar at most but not really.

[ElCid]

I called out the facemask earlier that was missed. At least I am trying to be neutral about it.

I am as well. There was close holding but the refs are calling it in a consistent manner.

[Professor Chaos]

Give the Bison o-line pink jerseys to wear for the 2nd half.

[TheKingpin28]

If you're talking that 4th down play for Samford...there was no facemask....horse collar at most but not really.

I think it was 3rd down when Crittendon got loose out right and his head turned around massively.

[SeattleCat]

Samford better come out inspired, they basically gave up after that touchdown.

[ElCid]

Glad I only get closed captioning at the bar we are pregaming at. Only have to read gems like, "the team who adapts in the second half is going to find the success they are looking for."

I need to put mute on. It's unbearable to listen to these goons.

[deez_na]

Bison reduced to throwing it apparently. Samford held them to 52 yards rushing in first half. So much for Samford's "bad" defense. But I'm sure all the Bison faithful will blame it on their mistakes or bad play calling.
Lol, if you think our play calling doesn’t have some to do with it then idk what to tell you. He’s going into stupid mode. 9 guys in the box and we just run a cute little run play every time. Running out of shotgun, not hard to stop the run with the entire box stacked and a OC helping them out with the obvious play calling.

[Chalupa Batman]

Even if this game gets away from Samford in the 2nd half, I am very impressed with this team. Without any help from the offense I think their defense is gonna break shortly though.

[ElCid]

Lol, if you think our play calling doesn’t have some to do with it then idk what to tell you. He’s going into stupid mode. 9 guys in the box and we just run a cute little run play every time. Running out of shotgun, not hard to stop the run with the entire box stacked and a OC helping them out with the obvious play calling.

Duh. But Samford D isn't as bad as advertised by some. I know all about Samford stacking the box. I see it every year. Maybe that's all your coach thinks he can do. LOL.

[uofmman1122]

Incredibly funny listening to Griz fans (and others) over the last week screaming that the 3-3-5 is the biggest problem with our defense, and that it absolutely cannot stop power run teams.

Samford has held NDSU to 2.5 yards per carry at 61 yards on 24 carries running the exact same defense​.

[CockyGeek]

This is the worst commentary I've heard in a game all year.

"You have to convert third downs in the postseason."

[ElCid]

Even if this game gets away from Samford in the 2nd half, I am very impressed with this team. Without any help from the offense I think their defense is gonna break shortly though.

I've seen them score a lot of points fast too many times. I would be more worried that their O gets in the groove. Bison have done good so far, but they need to keep it up or Samford can score fast.

[TheKingpin28]

Incredibly funny listening to Griz fans (and others) over the last week screaming that the 3-3-5 is the biggest problem with our defense, and that it absolutely cannot stop power run teams.

Samford has held NDSU to 2.5 yards per carry at 61 yards on 24 carries running the exact same defense​.

It does help when a coach puts 9 in the box and brings pressure though.

[ElCid]

This is the worst commentary I've heard in a game all year.

"You have to convert third downs in the postseason."

They talk just to make noise. Very annoying.

[MSUBobcat]

This is the worst commentary I've heard in a game all year.

"You have to convert third downs in the postseason."

Everyone knows in the regular season, not converting 3rd downs leads to massive success....

[BisonFan02]

QB change for Samford

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

QB change for Samford

Didn't see that one coming!

[BisonFan02]

Didn't see that one coming!

Gonna be boom or bust in my opinion....first drive for them should be telling.

[uofmman1122]

It does help when a coach puts 9 in the box and brings pressure though.
We did that a lot, too, we just sucked at executing.

[SeattleCat]

huge hold by #19 to spring Johnson

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

NDSU is rolling...

[TheKingpin28]

Looks like adjustments were made

[Bison56]

People that cry about holding are losers.

[TheKingpin28]

huge hold by #19 to spring Johnson

Yep, but they are clearly not calling it on either team.

[ysubigred]

Well how fast the tables have turned.. SOCON who?



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