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AGSPoll
November 7th, 2022, 11:51 AM
11/07/2022 AGS Poll Results



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes


1
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1207
32


2
Sac State Hornets
1186
17


3
Montana State Bobcats
1114



4
North Dakota State Bison
1081



5
Incarnate Word Cardinals
974



6
Weber State Wildcats
937



7
Holy Cross Crusaders
933



8
William & Mary Tribe
890



9
Samford Bulldogs
850



10
Chattanooga Mocs
675



11
Idaho Vandals
658



12
Mercer Bears
657



13
Furman Paladins
646



14
Richmond Spiders
589



15
Montana Grizzlies
518



16
Jackson State Tigers
517



17
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
437



18
Elon Phoenix
419



19
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
302



20
Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
248



21
New Hampshire Wildcats
225



22
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
220



23
Fordham Rams
199



24
Rhode Island Rams
166



25
Princeton Tigers
129
















ORV:




26
Eastern Kentucky Colonels
75



27
Youngstown State Penguins
19



28
UC Davis Aggies
18



29
Northern Iowa Panthers
10



30
North Carolina Central Eagles
7



31
St. Thomas Tommies
6



32
St. Francis Red Flash
5



33
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
4



34T
Eastern Illinois Panthers
1



34T
Florida A&M Rattlers
1



34T
Merrimack Warriors
1



34T
Villanova Wildcats
1



38





39





40


















Most Significant Win:
Sac State Hornets





Most Significant Loss:
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

SpreadTheWord
November 7th, 2022, 11:56 AM
I think Idaho should be a top 7 team and Youngstown State and UC Davis are very underrated.

ursus arctos horribilis
November 7th, 2022, 12:00 PM
I think Idaho should be a top 7 team and Youngstown State and UC Davis are very underrated.

100% agree and looking at the first four out of the T25 I was really thinking what a tough out any of those teams are/would be at this point. Initial thought right when I looked at it was that I also thought Idaho should be 7 so that is pretty funny you mentioned those.

Professor Chaos
November 7th, 2022, 12:01 PM
This week's poll article: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-10-top-25-results-4/

Very boring week all-in-all. I still think the CAA placement in the consensus is kind of weird with Elon one spot below a Delaware team they beat soundly and UNH falling down below Elon, who they beat soundly, even though they hung very tough with consensus #14 Richmond losing a super tight one. Luckily next Saturday should go a long way towards helping us sort out the CAA with many of these ranked CAA teams playing each other.

Another all-time AGS Poll high for Idaho this week at #11. Incarnate Word (along with SDSU and Sac St for that matter) all matching all-time highs this week as well.

FUGameBreaker
November 7th, 2022, 12:03 PM
FU All The Time!

atthewbon
November 7th, 2022, 12:04 PM
Here is my ballot

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Sac State Hornets
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Holy Cross Crusaders
6: Samford Bulldogs
7: William & Mary Tribe
8: Weber State Wildcats
9: Jackson State Tigers
10: Incarnate Word Cardinals
11: Furman Paladins
12: Idaho Vandals
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Mercer Bears
15: Richmond Spiders
16: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
17: Montana Grizzlies
18: Elon Phoenix
19: Princeton Tigers
20: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
21: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
22: Youngstown State Penguins
23: Rhode Island Rams
24: New Hampshire Wildcats
25: Fordham Rams

Professor Chaos
November 7th, 2022, 12:04 PM
My shot at it this week:

1: Sac State Hornets
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: Incarnate Word Cardinals
7: Idaho Vandals
8: William & Mary Tribe
9: Samford Bulldogs
10: Holy Cross Crusaders
11: Furman Paladins
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Mercer Bears
14: Richmond Spiders
15: Montana Grizzlies
16: New Hampshire Wildcats
17: Jackson State Tigers
18: Elon Phoenix
19: Delaware Fightin Blue Hens
20: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
21: Fordham Rams
22: Rhode Island Rams
23: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
24: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
25: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks

Chalupa Batman
November 7th, 2022, 12:07 PM
Here's mine. A new number 1 for me this week.


1: Sac State Hornets
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Incarnate Word Cardinals
6: Holy Cross Crusaders
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: William & Mary Tribe
9: Samford Bulldogs
10: Idaho Vandals
11: Furman Paladins
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Montana Grizzlies
14: Mercer Bears
15: Elon Phoenix
16: Jackson State Tigers
17: Richmond Spiders
18: Fordham Rams
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
21: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
22: Princeton Tigers
23: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
24: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
25: North Dakota Fighting Hawks

The Most Significant Win: Sac State Hornets
The Most Significant Loss: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

Professor Chaos
November 7th, 2022, 12:14 PM
Here's mine. A new number 1 for me this week.
Same with me - I was mildly surprised Sac St didn't get closer to or even end up passing SDSU in the consensus for #1 given how they handily beat UNI in the UNI-dome earlier this year when SDSU needed a game ending FG (with help from a dumb UNI penalty) to do it. This 3-week gauntlet Sac St just ran beating Montana, Idaho, and Weber St (all in very close games) was impressive. We'll get another common opponent between SDSU and Sac St when Sac St plays UC Davis to end the season. Assuming the Hornets win that one (along with their game at Portland St this week) it seems to me like it would be pretty tough to not give them the #1 seed.

Chalupa Batman
November 7th, 2022, 12:18 PM
11/07/2022 AGS Poll Results




Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes








34
Eastern Illinois Panthers
1









37
Villanova Wildcats
1

















I assume Eastern Illinois is supposed to be Eastern Kentucky......EIU is 2-7 & 1-3 in the OVC.

How is Villanova still getting a vote????

ursus arctos horribilis
November 7th, 2022, 01:06 PM
I assume Eastern Illinois is supposed to be Eastern Kentucky......EIU is 2-7 & 1-3 in the OVC.

How is Villanova still getting a vote????

Most likely. I would have spent some time investigating it but forgot to go search it out and see who had it on the ballot.

OhioHen
November 7th, 2022, 01:09 PM
I assume Eastern Illinois is supposed to be Eastern Kentucky......EIU is 2-7 & 1-3 in the OVC.

How is Villanova still getting a vote????
Thought the same about EIU vs EKU.
Villanova still getting a vote is like UTM still getting votes. Both are 5-4 and haven't completely disappeared off somebody's list.

Chalupa Batman
November 7th, 2022, 01:15 PM
Same with me - I was mildly surprised Sac St didn't get closer to or even end up passing SDSU in the consensus for #1 given how they handily beat UNI in the UNI-dome earlier this year when SDSU needed a game ending FG (with help from a dumb UNI penalty) to do it. This 3-week gauntlet Sac St just ran beating Montana, Idaho, and Weber St (all in very close games) was impressive. We'll get another common opponent between SDSU and Sac St when Sac St plays UC Davis to end the season. Assuming the Hornets win that one (along with their game at Portland St this week) it seems to me like it would be pretty tough to not give them the #1 seed.

I am 100% with you and was surprised they weren't closer too. And looking at the point totals it looks like 7 people voted the Hornets #3 which is just as surprising. I think Sac State & SDSU are clearly the top 2 teams at this point.

caribbeanhen
November 7th, 2022, 01:27 PM
Here's mine. A new number 1 for me this week.


1: Sac State Hornets
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Incarnate Word Cardinals
6: Holy Cross Crusaders
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: William & Mary Tribe
9: Samford Bulldogs
10: Idaho Vandals
11: Furman Paladins
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Montana Grizzlies
14: Mercer Bears
15: Elon Phoenix
16: Jackson State Tigers
17: Richmond Spiders
18: Fordham Rams
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
21: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
22: Princeton Tigers
23: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
24: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
25: North Dakota Fighting Hawks

The Most Significant Win: Sac State Hornets
The Most Significant Loss: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

Chulapa, Just curious why you think the Southern Conference is uniformly better than the CAA? I’m not trying to imply that you’re wrong as for all I know you may be right (BJ)

nice job on Richmond cracking into your top 25

Chalupa Batman
November 7th, 2022, 01:28 PM
Thought the same about EIU vs EKU.
Villanova still getting a vote is like UTM still getting votes. Both are 5-4 and haven't completely disappeared off somebody's list.

Agree on UTM that they shouldn't be receiving votes either, but I recognize the fact that they were still in the top 25 last week means they weren't going to stop receiving any votes this week. Frankly I'm pleasantly surprised they dropped all the way down to 4 points.

Chalupa Batman
November 7th, 2022, 01:55 PM
Chulapa, Just curious why you think the Southern Conference is uniformly better than the CAA? I’m not trying to imply that you’re wrong as for all I know you may be right (BJ)

nice job on Richmond cracking into your top 25

That's a great question. Of all the teams from the two conferences, I think William & Mary is clearly the best at this point. They're only 1 spot ahead of Samford because the teams I have ahead of the Tribe are just that good.

As for the rest it's pretty tough at this point to rank the teams from each conference among themselves (especially the CAA), much less compare teams from the CAA to the SoCon. When that's the case right or wrong it's natural for conference teams to be lumped together. I had mentioned 2-3 weeks ago how I force myself to take another look if I have more than 2 teams from the same conference all ranked in a row and this is a big reason why, if the focus is too much on how to rank conference teams among each other that you forget to rank other teams among them too. I will have to take a closer look next week, though with 2 top 25 matchups in each conference that will help a lot too.

McNeese75
November 7th, 2022, 02:41 PM
I assume Eastern Illinois is supposed to be Eastern Kentucky......EIU is 2-7 & 1-3 in the OVC.

How is Villanova still getting a vote????

I was wondering about that. McNeese got their 2nd victory of the season over them Saturday night xeyebrowx

Green Cookie Monster
November 7th, 2022, 03:15 PM
Same with me - I was mildly surprised Sac St didn't get closer to or even end up passing SDSU in the consensus for #1 given how they handily beat UNI in the UNI-dome earlier this year when SDSU needed a game ending FG (with help from a dumb UNI penalty) to do it. This 3-week gauntlet Sac St just ran beating Montana, Idaho, and Weber St (all in very close games) was impressive. We'll get another common opponent between SDSU and Sac St when Sac St plays UC Davis to end the season. Assuming the Hornets win that one (along with their game at Portland St this week) it seems to me like it would be pretty tough to not give them the #1 seed.

And beat down of FBS CSU 44-10.
SDSU doesn’t have a FBS win.

Green Cookie Monster
November 7th, 2022, 03:16 PM
I am 100% with you and was surprised they weren't closer too. And looking at the point totals it looks like 7 people voted the Hornets #3 which is just as surprising. I think Sac State & SDSU are clearly the top 2 teams at this point.

davis voters

Daytripper
November 7th, 2022, 03:19 PM
I am 100% with you and was surprised they weren't closer too. And looking at the point totals it looks like 7 people voted the Hornets #3 which is just as surprising. I think Sac State & SDSU are clearly the top 2 teams at this point.

I'm feeling pretty good about now considering I think I was the first voter to vote Sac State #1 way back when. They have been damn impressive this year. I hope they make a deep playoff run. Would be nice to have a west coast presence in Frisco.

Preferred Walk-On
November 7th, 2022, 03:19 PM
And beat down of FBS CSU 44-10.
SDSU doesn’t have a FBS win.

They don't, but I am sure Colorado State would have ran Iowa off the field, at Kinnick Stadium no less...

Now the question is, would Sac State have beaten Iowa? I am not saying they wouldn't/couldn't, I am just saying let's stop with the SDSU doesn't have an FBS win BS (or at least tamp it down a bit). I am pretty sure though that SDSU would have run CSU as well as Sac State did...they did so last year, with a team that arguably was not as good.

NY Crusader 2010
November 7th, 2022, 03:30 PM
And SDSU beat Colorado State last year...not to mention Sac State on the road.

POD Knows
November 7th, 2022, 03:39 PM
THIS is the freaking answer key.

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Sac State Hornets
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: Incarnate Word Cardinals
7: Holy Cross Crusaders
8: William & Mary Tribe
9: Samford Bulldogs
10: Mercer Bears
11: Idaho Vandals
12: Furman Paladins
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Jackson State Tigers
15: Richmond Spiders
16: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
17: Elon Phoenix
18: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Fordham Rams
21: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
22: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
23: Montana Grizzlies
24: Princeton Tigers
25: Rhode Island Rams

POD Knows

The Most Significant Win: Sac State Hornets
The Most Significant Loss: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conferenc

MR. CHICKEN
November 7th, 2022, 04:02 PM
I assume Eastern Illinois is supposed to be Eastern Kentucky......EIU is 2-7 & 1-3 in the OVC.

How is Villanova still getting a vote????


32643


...EASTERN KENTUCKY....IS #26 IN OTHERS RECEIVIN' VOTES.....SO....AH'D GO WHIFF #34T....... E.ILLINOIS PROLLY WAS MISTAKEN FO'....SOUFFERN ILLINOIS.....AS KEYS E & S ARE CLOSE TA EACH OTHERAH.....xwhistlex...AWK!

ps....5-4...IS MO' BETTERAH...DAN 2-7...........BRAWK!

McNeese75
November 7th, 2022, 04:53 PM
32643


...EASTERN KENTUCKY....IS #26 IN OTHERS RECEIVIN' VOTES.....SO....AH'D GO WHIFF #34T....... E.ILLINOIS PROLLY WAS MISTAKEN FO'....SOUFFERN ILLINOIS.....AS KEYS E & S ARE CLOSE TA EACH OTHERAH.....xwhistlex...AWK!

ps....5-4...IS MO' BETTERAH...DAN 2-7...........BRAWK!


Well, I thought it was strange that Eastern Illinois was in the voting. THEN, I look at my e-mail showing my poll and low and behold, I WAS THE ONE That ****ed up and put them in instead of Eastern Kentucky SMH xcrazyx

caribbeanhen
November 7th, 2022, 05:10 PM
And SDSU beat Colorado State last year...not to mention Sac State on the road.

Despite Sacramento State being a really good team, they have that stigma of choking in the playoffs

I have them as a solid number two and definitely knocking on the door

Let’s see if they can get over the hump this year

mvemjsunpx
November 7th, 2022, 05:43 PM
Previous week in parentheses.


1. Sacramento St. (2)
2. South Dakota St. (1)
3. Montana St. (3)
4. William & Mary (4)
5. Incarnate Word (5)
6. Holy Cross (6)
7. North Dakota St. (8)
8. Elon (9)
9. Delaware (10)
10. Weber St. (7)
11. Jackson St. (11)
12. Samford (14)
13. Idaho (12)
14. Southeast Missouri St. (13)
15. Richmond (20)
16. North Dakota (15)
17. Furman (16)
18. Tennessee-Chattanooga (17)
19. Eastern Kentucky (NR)
20. Mercer (18)
21. Southeastern Louisiana (22)
22. Princeton (23)
23. Rhode Island (24)
24. Youngstown St. (NR)
25. Montana (NR)

Dropped - Northern Iowa (19), Southern Illinois (21), Illinois St. (25)


W - Sacramento St.
L - Tennessee-Martin

FUBeAR
November 7th, 2022, 06:22 PM
Previous week in parentheses.

8. Elon (9) [7-3 Elon beat a bad, last-place 2-7 Team by a few scores and moved up a spot in this poll]

20. Mercer (18) [7-2 Mercer was idle last week and dropped 2 spots in this poll]



2022 Gardner-Webb Football Schedule


Date
Opponent
SCORE
NOTE


Saturday
Sep. 17
at Elon Phoenix (https://fbschedules.com/2022-elon-football-schedule/)Rhodes Stadium, Elon, NC
L 30-24
Elon edges Gardner-Webb by 6 at Home


Saturday
Sep. 24
Mercer Bears (https://fbschedules.com/2022-mercer-football-schedule/)Ernest W. Spangler Stadium, Boiling Springs, NC
L 45-14
1 week later, Mercer dump trucks Gardner-Webb by 31 in their stadium



yep…this all makes perfect sense.

Go Lehigh TU owl
November 7th, 2022, 09:16 PM
1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: North Dakota State Bison
4: Sac State Hornets
5: Holy Cross Crusaders
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Incarnate Word Cardinals
8: William & Mary Tribe
9: Samford Bulldogs
10: Chattanooga Mocs
11: Princeton Tigers
12: Mercer Bears
13: Furman Paladins
14: Richmond Spiders
15: Jackson State Tigers
16: Fordham Rams
17: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
18: Idaho Vandals
19: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
20: Montana Grizzlies
21: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
22: St. Francis Red Flash
23: Elon Phoenix
24: Youngstown State Penguins
25: Eastern Kentucky Colonels

The Most Significant Win: Sac State Hornets
The Most Significant Loss: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Patriot League

caribbeanhen
November 7th, 2022, 09:33 PM
How come Monmouth is not in top 25 this year?

Because they are in the CAA now and have been exposed

SeattleCat
November 8th, 2022, 12:24 AM
THIS is the freaking answer key.

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Sac State Hornets
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: Incarnate Word Cardinals
7: Holy Cross Crusaders
8: William & Mary Tribe
9: Samford Bulldogs
10: Mercer Bears
11: Idaho Vandals
12: Furman Paladins
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Jackson State Tigers
15: Richmond Spiders
16: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
17: Elon Phoenix
18: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Fordham Rams
21: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
22: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
23: Montana Grizzlies
24: Princeton Tigers
25: Rhode Island Rams

POD Knows

The Most Significant Win: Sac State Hornets
The Most Significant Loss: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conferenc

Montana State does not belong above NDSU, they are our kyptonite, until we beat them we are behind them. Also without a defense we're like #10 at best.

POD Knows
November 8th, 2022, 09:17 AM
Montana State does not belong above NDSU, they are our kyptonite, until we beat them we are behind them. Also without a defense we're like #10 at best.
Yes they do, based on what they have done this year. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if NDSU loses both of their remaining games and at 7-4 they do not deserve to even be in the playoffs. This is the worse NDSU team in the Natty run but MSU better step up on D or they could be out early in this thing.

caribbeanhen
November 8th, 2022, 10:00 AM
Yes they do, based on what they have done this year. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if NDSU loses both of their remaining games and at 7-4 they do not deserve to even be in the playoffs. This is the worse NDSU team in the Natty run but MSU better step up on D or they could be out early in this thing.

Montana St had to pull a TD Tommy miracle to beat hapless N Arizona, The Bison would beat em up despite being a little down this year. Make no mistake, the Bison are not gonna go quietly in the playoffs. Stig knows this

POD Knows
November 8th, 2022, 10:03 AM
Montana St had to pull a TD Tommy miracle to beat hapless N Arizona, The Bison would beat em up despite being a little down this year. Make no mistake, the Bison are not gonna go quietly in the playoffs. Stig knows this
MSU had a bigger miracle to beat a hapless EWU but they won. NDSU didn't get it done against SDSU and that is the difference.

MSUBobcat
November 8th, 2022, 11:16 AM
Montana St had to pull a TD Tommy miracle to beat hapless N Arizona, The Bison would beat em up despite being a little down this year. Make no mistake, the Bison are not gonna go quietly in the playoffs. Stig knows this

Our secondary is bad this year. However, the coaching was a major reason this game was so close. Not sure what Housewright was thinking with the play calling, other than just working on new plays against an "inferior" opponent. Lots of deep passes. Trying to be more balanced in the offense I suppose, with 30 passes and "only" 49 rushes (38%). Compare that to the Weber game, where we ran it 53 times vs 23 pass attempts. Regardless... the secondary HAS to do better than what they were in Flagstaff. They often weren't in the same time zone as the receiver. Being that AZ doesn't participate in Daylight Savings, they are an hour behind MT until Sunday morning. Our DB's didn't get the memo and were about an hour late for every pass.

PhillyPhoenix
November 8th, 2022, 11:20 AM
2022 Gardner-Webb Football Schedule


Date
Opponent
SCORE
NOTE


Saturday
Sep. 17
at Elon Phoenix (https://fbschedules.com/2022-elon-football-schedule/)Rhodes Stadium, Elon, NC
L 30-24
Elon edges Gardner-Webb by 6 at Home


Saturday
Sep. 24
Mercer Bears (https://fbschedules.com/2022-mercer-football-schedule/)Ernest W. Spangler Stadium, Boiling Springs, NC
L 45-14
1 week later, Mercer dump trucks Gardner-Webb by 31 in their stadium



yep…this all makes perfect sense.


Trying to wrap my head around people questioning Elon's ranking vs. the likes of Furman and Mercer.

Furman has played two teams with a .500 or better record (1-1) while Mercer has played one team with a .500 or better record (0-1) at the FCS level. Meanwhile Elon has played 6 games (won 4) against teams with a .500 or better record.

Combined W/L of Opponents (FCS games only):
Furman: 27-36
Mercer: 25-47
Elon: 45-30

I know the remaining games will make or break both teams for the playoffs but I haven't seen anything from Furman or Mercer that warrants a Top 20 ranking while Elon holds a 3-2 record against current teams in the Top 25 and is Richmond and William & Mary's only FCS loss.


Go Phoenix!

crusader11
November 8th, 2022, 11:57 AM
You make great points here. I think the top four SoCon teams are all good to very good, but none of their resumes are all that impressive. I have an inkling that one of them is going to be on the outside looking in -- 8-3 isn't going to be a lock for the playoffs, given there really aren't any notable OOC wins.

caribbeanhen
November 8th, 2022, 12:12 PM
THIS is the freaking answer key.

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Sac State Hornets
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: Incarnate Word Cardinals
7: Holy Cross Crusaders
8: William & Mary Tribe
9: Samford Bulldogs
10: Mercer Bears
11: Idaho Vandals
12: Furman Paladins
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Jackson State Tigers
15: Richmond Spiders
16: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
17: Elon Phoenix
18: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Fordham Rams
21: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
22: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
23: Montana Grizzlies
24: Princeton Tigers
25: Rhode Island Rams

POD Knows

The Most Significant Win: Sac State Hornets
The Most Significant Loss: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conferenc


If this is the answer key answer me this... Why is The Southern Conference slotted higher than the CAA?

I asked Batman the same question and he said I’ll have to take a closer look

I’m not saying your poll will turn out to be wrong, just curious

I suspect FuBeaR might be serving up healthy doses of The Jonestown juice

POD Knows
November 8th, 2022, 12:40 PM
If this is the answer key answer me this... Why is The Southern Conference slotted higher than the CAA?

I asked Batman the same question and he said I’ll have to take a closer look

I’m not saying your poll will turn out to be wrong, just curious

I suspect FuBeaR might be serving up healthy doses of The Jonestown juiceExcept for Richmond and Bill/Mary, they all have multiple FCS losses but so does UND, which doesn't buttress my argument much outside of the fact that I think UND would boat race all of the CAA teams I have behind them.

The next couple weeks will shake out the SoCon, we will see.

Also, you refer to the MFVC with NDSU as PM and the Wings, well, the CAA with JMU was PM and the Archies, now, with JMU gone it is just the Archies.

TribeNomad1
November 8th, 2022, 12:44 PM
Our secondary is bad this year. However, the coaching was a major reason this game was so close. Not sure what Housewright was thinking with the play calling, other than just working on new plays against an "inferior" opponent. Lots of deep passes. Trying to be more balanced in the offense I suppose, with 30 passes and "only" 49 rushes (38%). Compare that to the Weber game, where we ran it 53 times vs 23 pass attempts. Regardless... the secondary HAS to do better than what they were in Flagstaff. They often weren't in the same time zone as the receiver. Being that AZ doesn't participate in Daylight Savings, they are an hour behind MT until Sunday morning. Our DB's didn't get the memo and were about an hour late for every pass.


:D

The Yo Show
November 8th, 2022, 12:45 PM
2022 Gardner-Webb Football Schedule


Date
Opponent
SCORE
NOTE


Saturday
Sep. 17
at Elon Phoenix (https://fbschedules.com/2022-elon-football-schedule/)Rhodes Stadium, Elon, NC
L 30-24
Elon edges Gardner-Webb by 6 at Home


Saturday
Sep. 24
Mercer Bears (https://fbschedules.com/2022-mercer-football-schedule/)Ernest W. Spangler Stadium, Boiling Springs, NC
L 45-14
1 week later, Mercer dump trucks Gardner-Webb by 31 in their stadium



yep…this all makes perfect sense.

I agree with you here, but will play devil's advocate. Head to head is better than comment opponent... comment opponent can lead to unrealistic things. For example, based on common opponent SD, it could lead someone to expect YSU to have beaten Illinois State soundly right? Instead they won 19-17 off a TD in the final 5 seconds of the game.
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Another point to consider, was Gardner Webb demoralized having lost a close game against a tough Elon at Elon? Have seen in the MVFC when a team plays a super physical game against a top tier MVFC team the following week they have a "hangover" so to speak and play below their potential.

All that being said, I do think Mercer is underrated in the consensus poll.

Chalupa Batman
November 8th, 2022, 12:49 PM
I think Idaho should be a top 7 team and Youngstown State and UC Davis are very underrated.

UC Davis is probably one of the best 25 teams in the country, but their schedule hasn't done them any favors so far. They have played only really good teams so far, or really bad teams. Their 3 FCS losses are to teams currently ranked #1, #3, & #6 and a combined 24-2 against FCS teams (with those 2 losses by 8 combined points against the #1 & #3 teams). Their 5 wins are against teams a combined 9-29 against FCS teams (and 5 of those wins are among each other). Their schedule hasn't had any teams in the 20-50 range that would count as good/solid wins. It wouldn't change their playoff outlook if their wins were against better opponents but it would probably lead to them being ranked.

Of course next on tap for them are the #11 & #2 teams in the country. If Idaho wins out the Aggies will have played half of the final top 10. What a brutal schedule.

100%GRIZ
November 8th, 2022, 01:10 PM
I see Montana is ranked pretty low in a few of your polls. I think they should be ranked on if the starting QB is playing at the end of the season!

SeattleCat
November 8th, 2022, 02:24 PM
Our secondary is bad this year. However, the coaching was a major reason this game was so close. Not sure what Housewright was thinking with the play calling, other than just working on new plays against an "inferior" opponent. Lots of deep passes. Trying to be more balanced in the offense I suppose, with 30 passes and "only" 49 rushes (38%). Compare that to the Weber game, where we ran it 53 times vs 23 pass attempts. Regardless... the secondary HAS to do better than what they were in Flagstaff. They often weren't in the same time zone as the receiver. Being that AZ doesn't participate in Daylight Savings, they are an hour behind MT until Sunday morning. Our DB's didn't get the memo and were about an hour late for every pass.

You're not joking on an hour late unfortunately, and 100% spot on with the play calling. Bombs on 3rd and short, Bombs on 3rd and medium WHY!!! WE AVERAGED 6 YARDS A FING CARRY..... RAWR!!!!

The plan should have been and should always be to run it down everyone's throat until they stop it. Aside from Oregon State (Mellott still averaged 7.5 yards a carry) no one has been able to yet. Housewright needs to get the sharpie's out of his nose and Mack needs to be sent packing. Promote Daly and hire and freaking secondary/special teams coach for the love of god.

caribbeanhen
November 8th, 2022, 07:14 PM
Except for Richmond and Bill/Mary, they all have multiple FCS losses but so does UND, which doesn't buttress my argument much outside of the fact that I think UND would boat race all of the CAA teams I have behind them.

The next couple weeks will shake out the SoCon, we will see.

Also, you refer to the MFVC with NDSU as PM and the Wings, well, the CAA with JMU was PM and the Archies, now, with JMU gone it is just the Archies.

that would be SPM but ok your answer is spot on

JMU gone and everyone thinks the CAA is Josie and the Pussy cats

TheKingpin28
November 8th, 2022, 07:50 PM
1: SacState Hornets
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Incarnate Word Cardinals
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Holy Cross Crusaders
8: William & Mary Tribe
9: Samford Bulldogs
10: Mercer Bears
11: Idaho Vandals
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Jackson State Tigers
14: Furman Paladins
15: Richmond Spiders
16: Montana Grizzlies
17: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
18: New Hampshire Wildcats
19: Rhode Island Rams
20: Elon Phoenix
21: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
22: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
23: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
24: Fordham Rams
25: Princeton Tigers

I guess I like Rhody a little more than others but only 3 other teams were off by more than 2 spots.

Chalupa Batman
November 8th, 2022, 08:47 PM
How come Monmouth is not in top 25 this year?

Because they are in the CAA now and have been exposed

Are you saying Fordham shouldn’t be ranked?

Gil Dobie
November 9th, 2022, 10:47 AM
1: SacState Hornets
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Incarnate Word Cardinals
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Holy Cross Crusaders
8: William & Mary Tribe
9: Samford Bulldogs
10: Mercer Bears
11: Idaho Vandals
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Jackson State Tigers
14: Furman Paladins
15: Richmond Spiders
16: Montana Grizzlies
17: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
18: New Hampshire Wildcats
19: Rhode Island Rams
20: Elon Phoenix
21: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
22: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
23: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
24: Fordham Rams
25: Princeton Tigers

I guess I like Rhody a little more than others but only 3 other teams were off by more than 2 spots.

Congrats on your election.

KPSUL
November 9th, 2022, 02:40 PM
Are you saying Fordham shouldn’t be ranked?

This Fordham team reminds me a lot of the 2014 Patriot League Champion Fordham team which was also a strong offensive team that had not been tested defensively during the regular season. The 2014 team had RB Chase Edmunds playing probably his most productive season and the team had also put up some impressive passing statistics. I have no problem with the 2022 Fordham Rams being ranked 24th or 25th but they will likely be one and done if they make the playoffs. I actually have more issue with Holy Cross seeded which appears to be likely. Their win over G5, MAC, Buffalo is really their only impressive win; however, stand alone FBS wins like that, very early in the season, have surprisingly little correlation with deep runs in the playoffs. Initially, their wins over Yale and Harvard looked quite impressive; however, other than Princeton, no-one in the Ivy this season looks playoff caliber. That leaves Fordham as HC's only FCS Top 25 win this season. A Holy Cross seed would likely give some CAA team the easiest path to the Quarter-finals of any unseeded playoff team. Bottom line, I think Holy Cross should be ranked somewhere in the 10-14 range.

crusader11
November 9th, 2022, 05:34 PM
That leaves Fordham as HC's only FCS Top 25 win this season. A Holy Cross seed would likely give some CAA team the easiest path to the Quarter-finals of any unseeded playoff team. Bottom line, I think Holy Cross should be ranked somewhere in the 10-14 range.

If you do a deep dive into several resumes of teams in the top ten-ish, one Top 25 win and an FBS win is better than what several other teams have.

We don't know how Buffalo's season is going to end, but right now of any FBS win by an FCS team, HC's win over Buffalo is the best one.

ElCid
November 9th, 2022, 06:56 PM
If you do a deep dive into several resumes of teams in the top ten-ish, one Top 25 win and an FBS win is better than what several other teams have.

We don't know how Buffalo's season is going to end, but right now of any FBS win by an FCS team, HC's win over Buffalo is the best one.

That's true if looking at simply the records of scalped FBS teams. And I don't necessarily disagree subjectively. And it ain't much, but simply another data point, but Massey had Navy 7 spots over Buffalo. So they would give that honor to Delaware. And just FYI for comparison, both of those FBS teams are between NDSU and Incarnate Word in Massey. Not saying that Massey is definitive. Like I said, just data points which are objective. Also, to be fair, Sagarin has Buffalo two spots above Navy. But both are definitely better than the rest.