MVFC Megathread: 2022 Edition

[mmiller_34]

Critical questions to be answered:

1. Who will beat the Bison? Will they get an FBS invite?

2. Will UNI wake up?

3. How many games will UND lose?

4. Which 4 games will SDSU lose?

5. Will mmiller ever become a Jackrabbit fan again??

[TheKingpin28]

Game is not even over and you didn't sponsor it by Casey's. Delete thread and start over.

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[mmiller_34]

Game is not even over and you didn't sponsor it by Casey's. Delete thread and start over.

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Hasn’t been sponsored by Casey’s in years. Don’t sass me.

[caribbeanhen]

Critical questions to be answered:

1. Who will beat the Bison? Will they get an FBS invite?

2. Will UNI wake up?

3. How many games will UND lose?

4. Which 4 games will SDSU lose?

5. Will mmiller ever become a Jackrabbit fan again??

considering going with new username Carib Dakotean and joining Mmiller on this wagon

[JacksFan40]

Critical questions to be answered:

1. Who will beat the Bison? Will they get an FBS invite?

2. Will UNI wake up?

3. How many games will UND lose?

4. Which 4 games will SDSU lose?

5. Will mmiller ever become a Jackrabbit fan again??
1. SDSU because it’s tradition; No

2. Only against SDSU

3. 4-5

4. UNI, USD, whoever is the Hobo Day opponent, whoever is the semifinal opponent.

5. Probably not based on question 4.

[JacksFan40]

Another question, how long until Entz is poached by an FBS school? You have to believe it’s inevitable. Who’s next up after him? Or would NDSU consider trying to get Vigen from MSU and bring him back to his alma mater?

[ysubigred]

Critical questions to be answered:

1. Who will beat the Bison? Will they get an FBS invite?

2. Will UNI wake up?

3. How many games will UND lose?

4. Which 4 games will SDSU lose?

5. Will mmiller ever become a Jackrabbit fan again??6. Will YSU win 5 games in 22?

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[mmiller_34]

6. Will YSU win 5 games in 22?

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5?

No.

[Gil Dobie]

Will Murray play in the conference?

[SDFS]

mmiller is a Jacks fan?

[ysubigred]

mmiller is a Jacks fan?Not no more joining a winning team [emoji57]

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[Gil Dobie]

Not no more joining a winning team [emoji57]

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Room for you too! Jump on the bus.

[ysubigred]

Room for you too! Jump on the bus.I'll join you at FBS.. My broken heart belongs to flightless birds..

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[Chalupa Batman]

Room for you too! Jump on the bus.

The bus (ours, not Jerome Bettis) is a little small to be giving piggy back rides.

[Bisonator]

Another question, how long until Entz is poached by an FBS school? You have to believe it’s inevitable. Who’s next up after him? Or would NDSU consider trying to get Vigen from MSU and bring him back to his alma mater?
Roehl would probably next in line for HC if Entz left. I doubt Vigen will ever be back at NDSU. He blew his opportunity when he followed Bohl to Wyo.

[nodak651]

I'm confused. Everyone is saying Murray is in the MVFC but I haven't seen an official announcement yet?

[Winterborn]

Critical questions to be answered:


3. How many games will UND lose?


5. Will mmiller ever become a Jackrabbit fan again??


3. In a perfect world it would be all of them.

5. If your conversion was in good faith, you would know that once a Bison, always a Bison.

[ST_Lawson]

I'm confused. Everyone is saying Murray is in the MVFC but I haven't seen an official announcement yet?

It sounds like it's pretty much a "done deal", but they're still working on the paperwork. Some people with inside knowledge have said that it's happening, but they haven't finalized the agreement and put out an official press release yet.

[Gil Dobie]

I'm looking forward to the Drake & NC A&T games. New blood for the Fargodome.

[POD Knows]

I'm looking forward to the Drake & NC A&T games. New blood for the Fargodome.
Hate the Drake. Kind of curious about the NCAT game however.

[Bisonator]

I'm confused. Everyone is saying Murray is in the MVFC but I haven't seen an official announcement yet?
Won't be a done deal until the presidents vote on it next month I believe.

[clenz]

Next president vote it’s official. Murray and the MVC both already said so in their official releases stating Murray was joining the MVC


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[SDFS]

What is the status on UI-Chicago? Is that going to happen also?

[JacksFan40]

I'm looking forward to the Drake & NC A&T games. New blood for the Fargodome.
You’ll get sick of Drake if you play them every other year like we did. NC A&T though will be a really fun one I bet. Love to see OOC games against non regional teams.

[BisonBacker]

considering going with new username Carib Dakotean and joining Mmiller on this wagon

I thought you already were on the Bison wagon.

[ST_Lawson]

What is the status on UI-Chicago? Is that going to happen also?

Nothing official yet, but it sounds VERY likely.

[dewey]

Roehl would probably next in line for HC if Entz left. I doubt Vigen will ever be back at NDSU. He blew his opportunity when he followed Bohl to Wyo.

I agree with this. After the loss to SDSU Roehl did a really good job as offensive coordinator. The other name would be David Braun (current defensive coordinator).

1st call of the new head coach (before even calling family) is to Jim Kramer to make sure he stays.

Dewey

[caribbeanhen]

I thought you already were on the Bison wagon.

Nope

I tremendously respect the Bison for the way they have dominated the decade but it’s way past time to knock em on their azz

[Yote 53]

South Dakota 2022 Football Schedule

at Kansas State
at Montana
vs Cal Poly
vs North Dakota State
at South Dakota State
at Illinois State
vs Southern Illinois
at Youngstown State
vs Missouri State
at North Dakota
vs Northern Iowa

The Coyotes either lose only 2 games this season or win only 2 games this season. There is no in-between.

That schedule. Ugh. That's a beaut.

[Professor Chaos]

South Dakota 2022 Football Schedule

at Kansas State
at Montana
vs Cal Poly
vs North Dakota State
at South Dakota State
at Illinois State
vs Southern Illinois
at Youngstown State
vs Missouri State
at North Dakota
vs Northern Iowa

The Coyotes either lose only 2 games this season or win only 2 games this season. There is no in-between.

That schedule. Ugh. That's a beaut.
Wow.. at K-State and Montana OOC and then the only MVFC teams the Yotes miss are WIU and Indiana St. If they only lose two games with that schedule they're probably still a top 4 seed in the playoffs.

[F'N Hawks]

That is a hellacious schedule!

[Chalupa Batman]

Wow.. at K-State and Montana OOC and then the only MVFC teams the Yotes miss are WIU and Indiana St. If they only lose two games with that schedule they're probably still a top 4 seed in the playoffs.

Somewhere clenz is both jealous and breathing a sigh of relief that it's not UNI's schedule

[AmsterBison]

Hate the Drake. Kind of curious about the NCAT game however.

Drake a two-game win streak against NDSU. Time to end that nonsense.

[POD Knows]

Drake a two-game win streak against NDSU. Time to end that nonsense.
Now that is a little known fact. 🤘

[The Yo Show]

6. Will YSU win 5 games in 22?

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Will be really interesting... looking at YSU's 2022 schedule, I see it quite plausible to get 5 wins.




Saturday
Sep. 3
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/duquesne-2021.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-duquesne-football-schedule/)
Duquesne Dukes (https://fbschedules.com/2022-duquesne-football-schedule/)
Stambaugh Stadium, Youngstown, OH
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Sep. 10
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/dayton.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-dayton-football-schedule/)
Dayton Flyers (https://fbschedules.com/2022-dayton-football-schedule/)
Stambaugh Stadium, Youngstown, OH
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Sep. 17
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/kentucky-2019.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-kentucky-football-schedule/)
at Kentucky Wildcats (https://fbschedules.com/2022-kentucky-football-schedule/)
Kroger Field, Lexington, KY
Time TBA ETTV TBA

(https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/kentucky-wildcats-football-lexington-tickets-9-17-2022/event/105129475/)


Saturday
Oct. 1
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/north-dakota-st.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-north-dakota-state-football-schedule/)
at North Dakota State Bison (https://fbschedules.com/2022-north-dakota-state-football-schedule/)
Fargodome, Fargo, ND
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Oct. 8
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/north-dakota-2021.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-north-dakota-football-schedule/)
North Dakota Fighting Hawks (https://fbschedules.com/2022-north-dakota-football-schedule/)
Stambaugh Stadium, Youngstown, OH
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Oct. 15
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/indiana-st.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-indiana-state-football-schedule/)
Indiana State Sycamores (https://fbschedules.com/2022-indiana-state-football-schedule/)
Stambaugh Stadium, Youngstown, OH
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Oct. 22
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/western-illinois.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-western-illinois-football-schedule/)
at Western Illinois Leathernecks (https://fbschedules.com/2022-western-illinois-football-schedule/)
Hanson Field, Macomb, IL
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Oct. 29
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/south-dakota.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-south-dakota-football-schedule/)
South Dakota Coyotes (https://fbschedules.com/2022-south-dakota-football-schedule/)
Stambaugh Stadium, Youngstown, OH
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Nov. 5
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/illinois-st.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-illinois-state-football-schedule/)
at Illinois State Redbirds (https://fbschedules.com/2022-illinois-state-football-schedule/)
Hancock Stadium, Normal, IL
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Nov. 19
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/southern-illinois-2019.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-southern-illinois-football-schedule/)
Southern Illinois Salukis (https://fbschedules.com/2022-southern-illinois-football-schedule/)
Stambaugh Stadium, Youngstown, OH

[Paladin1aa]

Will be really interesting... looking at YSU's 2022 schedule, I see it quite plausible to get 5 wins.




Saturday
Sep. 3
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/duquesne-2021.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-duquesne-football-schedule/)
Duquesne Dukes (https://fbschedules.com/2022-duquesne-football-schedule/)
Stambaugh Stadium, Youngstown, OH
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Sep. 10
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/dayton.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-dayton-football-schedule/)
Dayton Flyers (https://fbschedules.com/2022-dayton-football-schedule/)
Stambaugh Stadium, Youngstown, OH
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Sep. 17
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/kentucky-2019.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-kentucky-football-schedule/)
at Kentucky Wildcats (https://fbschedules.com/2022-kentucky-football-schedule/)
Kroger Field, Lexington, KY
Time TBA ETTV TBA

(https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/kentucky-wildcats-football-lexington-tickets-9-17-2022/event/105129475/)


Saturday
Oct. 1
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/north-dakota-st.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-north-dakota-state-football-schedule/)
at North Dakota State Bison (https://fbschedules.com/2022-north-dakota-state-football-schedule/)
Fargodome, Fargo, ND
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Oct. 8
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/north-dakota-2021.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-north-dakota-football-schedule/)
North Dakota Fighting Hawks (https://fbschedules.com/2022-north-dakota-football-schedule/)
Stambaugh Stadium, Youngstown, OH
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Oct. 15
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/indiana-st.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-indiana-state-football-schedule/)
Indiana State Sycamores (https://fbschedules.com/2022-indiana-state-football-schedule/)
Stambaugh Stadium, Youngstown, OH
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Oct. 22
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/western-illinois.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-western-illinois-football-schedule/)
at Western Illinois Leathernecks (https://fbschedules.com/2022-western-illinois-football-schedule/)
Hanson Field, Macomb, IL
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Oct. 29
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/south-dakota.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-south-dakota-football-schedule/)
South Dakota Coyotes (https://fbschedules.com/2022-south-dakota-football-schedule/)
Stambaugh Stadium, Youngstown, OH
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Nov. 5
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/illinois-st.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-illinois-state-football-schedule/)
at Illinois State Redbirds (https://fbschedules.com/2022-illinois-state-football-schedule/)
Hancock Stadium, Normal, IL
Time TBA ETTV TBA



Saturday
Nov. 19
https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/southern-illinois-2019.png (https://fbschedules.com/2022-southern-illinois-football-schedule/)
Southern Illinois Salukis (https://fbschedules.com/2022-southern-illinois-football-schedule/)
Stambaugh Stadium, Youngstown, OH





My view right now is maybe 4 wins for YSU. Maybe. Lots of unknowns at this point at both YSU and many of the opponents.

[clenz]

If you set the O/U at 4.5 I'm not sure I would touch it because I can't convince myself of 5+ but given the schedule I also can't tell myself that 4 or less is a lock either.

I think the last date YSU could *expect* a win is October 15. That would put them at 5-2 and we would be right back to the YSU we all know of being super highly ranked because they are 5-2 thanks to a trash OOC and then finishing by losing every game on the back half of their schedule

[ysubigred]

Yeah unfortunately YSU can't have the luxury of finishing 6-5 and bombing out of the playoffs first or second round and be still ranked like UNI. The flightless birds seem to string their losses together at the EOS killing a playoff resume..

Hopefully this year with a coaching shake up and a year to get their **** together player wise 5 or 6 wins is obtained.

Right now all teams are 0-0,,, let the games begin [emoji106]

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[clenz]

Yeah unfortunately YSU can't have the luxury of finishing 6-5 and bombing out of the playoffs first or second round and be still ranked like UNI.

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Sucks to suck


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[ysubigred]

Sucks to suck


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYup, I guess you're coming to terms with it. Refresh my memory of how many NC's "team choke" has again?

I thought so...

Carry on xsalutex

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[POD Knows]

Sucks to suck


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Spoken like a man with experience.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

My early rankings for '22:

NDSU
SDSU
Missouri State
USD
UNI
SIU
YSU
Ill State
UND
Ind State
WIU

[NDSU1980]

My early rankings for '22:

NDSU
SDSU
Missouri State
USD
UNI
SIU
YSU
Ill State
UND
Ind State
WIU
I would turn UNI and USD around, but can't specifically explain why. I just keep thinking Farley has to win a few important games at some point. Otherwise, spot in for the rest of conference.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I would turn UNI and USD around, but can't specifically explain why. I just keep thinking Farley has to win a few important games at some point. Otherwise, spot in for the rest of conference.



I think after the top 3, you could arrange the rest except WIU any way. I'm sure my list will change a few times between now and the start of '22 season.

NDSU will go 3-0 in OOC. 1st 2 games should be shutouts but both teams probably have their starters in at the end on the 3rd string. Probably garage time TDs given up..
And then there is Arizona in game #3. NDSU is going to embarrass them on their own field. It will be an upset if the Bison do not win that game.

[The Yo Show]

If you set the O/U at 4.5 I'm not sure I would touch it because I can't convince myself of 5+ but given the schedule I also can't tell myself that 4 or less is a lock either.

I think the last date YSU could *expect* a win is October 15. That would put them at 5-2 and we would be right back to the YSU we all know of being super highly ranked because they are 5-2 thanks to a trash OOC and then finishing by losing every game on the back half of their schedule

Clenz, I am thinking you will not have to worry about that anyway. I would have faith that voters will give a wait and see approach given recent performance. Winning their first two games on that schedule means nothing. I don't see them getting votes unless they win the first three (which would involve an absolute miracle win against Kentucky) or winning the first two, having a decent performance game three and somehow beating the bison in game 4 (probably less likely than a miracle win against Kentucky lol).

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Clenz, I am thinking you will not have to worry about that anyway. I would have faith that voters will give a wait and see approach given recent performance. Winning their first two games on that schedule means nothing. I don't see them getting votes unless they win the first three (which would involve an absolute miracle win against Kentucky) or winning the first two, having a decent performance game three and somehow beating the bison in game 4 (probably less likely than a miracle win against Kentucky lol).


YSU could run the ball last year. Shore up the defense and keep running the ball....pretty good formula to turn the corner.

[ysubigred]

Clenz, I am thinking you will not have to worry about that anyway. I would have faith that voters will give a wait and see approach given recent performance. Winning their first two games on that schedule means nothing. I don't see them getting votes unless they win the first three (which would involve an absolute miracle win against Kentucky) or winning the first two, having a decent performance game three and somehow beating the bison in game 4 (probably less likely than a miracle win against Kentucky lol).KY will pound YSU worse than Meatchicken State did. Good news is I have a tailgate spot and a ticket connection for that ass beating[emoji3]

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[Paladin1aa]

I’d take the list and rank them this way-

Top 3 in order
NDSU
SDSU
MSU

Then lump in group 2 in no particular order

USD
UNI
SIU
ISUr

Then in group 3 in no particular order
YSU
UND
ISUb
WIU

Definite 3 groups that separates the pack.

[nodak651]

I’d take the list and rank them this way-

Top 3 in order
NDSU
SDSU
MSU

Then lump in group 2 in no particular order

USD
UNI
SIU
ISUr

Then in group 3 in no particular order
YSU
UND
ISUb
WIU

Definite 3 groups that separates the pack.

Would love to hear your logic for UND definitely being in the bottom tier.

[The Yo Show]

KY will pound YSU worse than Meatchicken State did. Good news is I have a tailgate spot and a ticket connection for that ass beating[emoji3]

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Any chance you would be willing to have another penguin fan or two join your tailgate spot? I am off that weekend and will likely end up trying to procure tickets and driving down to attend.

[NDSU1980]

Would love to hear your logic for UND definitely being in the bottom tier.

Well considering that UND finished the year unranked and with a losing record along with losing a bunch of players to the transfer portal I think that's the logical place for them. This is especially true since some of those leaving were considered high impact players and UND hasn't gotten anyone great transferring in.

JMO, maybe Paladin has different reasoning.

[Paladin1aa]

Well considering that UND finished the year unranked and with a losing record along with losing a bunch of players to the transfer portal I think that's the logical place for them. This is especially true since some of those leaving were considered high impact players and UND hasn't gotten anyone great transferring in.

JMO, maybe Paladin has different reasoning.

Yep, pretty much as I see it. Losing the RB is a major blow.

[caribbeanhen]

Yep, pretty much as I see it. Losing the RB is a major blow.


Is the RB done or transfer?

[SDFS]

Is the RB done or transfer?

As of right now he is in the transfer portal.

[caribbeanhen]

As of right now he is in the transfer portal.

ah I see, some are withdrawing from the portal too

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Well considering that UND finished the year unranked and with a losing record along with losing a bunch of players to the transfer portal I think that's the logical place for them. This is especially true since some of those leaving were considered high impact players and UND hasn't gotten anyone great transferring in.

JMO, maybe Paladin has different reasoning.


UND is going to have less wins in '22 IMO.

[POD Knows]

ah I see, some are withdrawing from the portal too
UND will take him back if he doesn’t find a home. Just watch.

[Professor Chaos]

ah I see, some are withdrawing from the portal too
These would be some pretty eye opening numbers to me if I was a player considering the transfer portal:

https://twitter.com/RivalsPortal/status/1475850438574497797

Now they still have the late signing period to find a home but it seems like there's far too few seats in this game of musical chairs. I can't imagine the percentage of FCS players still looking for a new home is any better and is probably worse.

[SDFS]

UND will take him back if he doesn’t find a home. Just watch.

1 month - Avatar bet - I will use a NDSU image you choose and you will use a Fighting Sioux image of my choice. He is not coming back to UND to play football.

[POD Knows]

1 month - Avatar bet - I will use a NDSU image you choose and you will use a Fighting Sioux image of my choice. He is not coming back to UND to play football.
I am going to pass. I think his leaving might have more to do with academics and not football. I will walk back my OP. Maybe I need better sources with respect the UND athletics. Had a devout UND fan state he was coming back after I jabbed him about 2022 and their status.

[Sycamore62]

I put the Sycamores in 7th place with 6 wins going 4-4 in the conference or possibly 3-5. we will miss the playoffs by 1 win and will have a quality win that would have got us in the playoffs but blew a game we should have won.

[Paladin1aa]

I am going to pass. I think his leaving might have more to do with academics and not football. I will walk back my OP. Maybe I need better sources with respect the UND athletics. Had a devout UND fan state he was coming back after I jabbed him about 2022 and their status.

I heard it is an academic issue and he is seeking a team with real playoff hopes. UND is going nowhere next season.

[caribbeanhen]

As of right now he is in the transfer portal.

I see, should of known that

[F'N Hawks]

I heard it is an academic issue and he is seeking a team with real playoff hopes. UND is going nowhere next season.

Naturally he is looking at YSU

[ysubigred]

Naturally he is looking at YSUHmmm.. probably couldn't cut it at YSU since he's bombing out of dirt management at UND.. Now I'm figuring out why my golden Buffalo friends think you all at UND are ducking fummies [emoji1787]

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[mmiller_34]

My MVFC tier list for 2022:

Tier 1:

NDSU

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Hmmm.. probably couldn't cut it at YSU since he's bombing out of dirt management at UND.. Now I'm figuring out why my golden Buffalo friends think you all at UND are ducking fummies [emoji1787]

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Go take a peek at their Hitler Youth Board. According to many of them, UND was a whisker away from being a NC team with all their "close" losses....lol

[F'N Hawks]

Go take a peek at their Hitler Youth Board. According to many of them, UND was a whisker away from being a NC team with all their "close" losses....lol

Not true. But hey just hope they don't go check for themselves.

[Sycamore62]

If you set the O/U at 4.5 I'm not sure I would touch it because I can't convince myself of 5+ but given the schedule I also can't tell myself that 4 or less is a lock either.

I think the last date YSU could *expect* a win is October 15. That would put them at 5-2 and we would be right back to the YSU we all know of being super highly ranked because they are 5-2 thanks to a trash OOC and then finishing by losing every game on the back half of their schedule

10/15 will be a loss. They will go in thinking they have something cooking and ISUb will beat them to put them into a middle of the road team who lost some that they needed to win to be relevant essentially making both teams irrelevant.

[SDFS]

Hmmm.. probably couldn't cut it at YSU since he's bombing out of dirt management at UND.. Now I'm figuring out why my golden Buffalo friends think you all at UND are ducking fummies [emoji1787]


FYI - Dirt Management is at NDSU or SDSU. They get a little fired up when you rip on dirt management like that - but please continue!! xdrunkyx

[ysubigred]

FYI - Dirt Management is at NDSU or SDSU. They get a little fired up when you rip on dirt management like that - but please continue!! xdrunkyxYup.. all banner academic schools [emoji57]

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[BisonFan02]

Sucks to suck


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You guys can talk the talk when you win one. Am I doing it right? xlolx

[Lorne_Malvo]

FYI - Dirt Management is at NDSU or SDSU. They get a little fired up when you rip on dirt management like that - but please continue!! xdrunkyx


Dirt management is a lot more complex than most people here will ever know.

[Hambone]

Hmmm.. probably couldn't cut it at YSU since he's bombing out of dirt management at UND.. Now I'm figuring out why my golden Buffalo friends think you all at UND are ducking fummies [emoji1787]

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And I used to like you...... xsmhx

[ysubigred]

And I used to like you...... xsmhxJ.K. being a smart ass to a smart ass..

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[SDFS]

Dirt management is a lot more complex than most people here will ever know.

I agree.

[Hambone]

J.K. being a smart ass to a smart ass..

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As was I......xbeerchugx

[ysubigred]

As was I......xbeerchugxSee you in Y-town? We have a great tailgate gig you're group is invited..

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[caribbeanhen]

South Dakota State punter Ben Dinkel is now a Delaware Bluehen

[Professor Chaos]

Some interesting stuff in this thread... no idea how "in the know" the anonymous FCS_Reddit twitter account really is but if nothing else it's good offseason fodder.

https://twitter.com/Reddit_FCS/status/1509953838110941184

Of course it could all be an April Fool's joke but it seems a little too plausible to be a very good one.

EDIT: .....aaaaand April Fools it is

[bonarae]

Murray State is finally joining the MVFC as referenced in another thread.

Could we see the MVFC going into 2 divisions?

[JacksFan40]

Murray State is finally joining the MVFC as referenced in another thread.

Could we see the MVFC going into 2 divisions?
The MVFC splitting into divisions would create such an unequal balance. No matter what, the Dakotas and UNI will be in the same division, which means basically all of the top teams will occupy one division.

[clenz]

Pods has been the rumor for months, and it was the idea of the Dakota schools from what I heard initially

They didn’t want to give up playing each other every year, and the way they would agree to voting Murray in was some sort of scheduling that allowed for it, but no one liked the division set up because if the inequality between the two

The idea of , essentially, 3 pods of 4 was floated: Dakota 4 and then two pods of the other 8. Play 3 in your pod and then 5 outside your pod rotating through the others.

The other idea I had been told was floated was the Dakota 4 in a permanent rotation with each other and then the other 8 scheduling like they are their own conference and rotating the Dakota schools almost like a OOC type rotation

Don’t know if that happens, but those are the strongest reports I heard on Murray coming in. There’s been time for all that to change when it comes to actually creating the schedule


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[atthewbon]

What would the pods look like? This would be my best guess.

Dakota 4
UNI, WIU, Missouri st, Illinois st
SIU, Indiana st, YSU, Murray st

That last pod is not great. Though I like the pod idea and think it’s probably the best solution.

[dgtw]

What would the pods look like? This would be my best guess.

Dakota 4
UNI, WIU, Missouri st, Illinois st
SIU, Indiana st, YSU, Murray st

That last pod is not great. Though I like the pod idea and think it’s probably the best solution.

Best solution is for the MVC and Summit to each sponsor football.


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[NDSU1980]

Best solution is for the MVC and Summit to each sponsor football.


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What would be attraction of Summit football?

[dgtw]

I just think if a league has enough members that all play a sport, the league should sponsor that sport.


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[clenz]

What would the pods look like? This would be my best guess.

Dakota 4
UNI, WIU, Missouri st, Illinois st
SIU, Indiana st, YSU, Murray st

That last pod is not great. Though I like the pod idea and think it’s probably the best solution.
I never heard names put to it, but no matter how you split the other two pods it's going to get semi-lopsided.

The way you split it makes the most geographic sense, but that does leave that third pod REAL weak. It becomes is those 3 games against their own pod going to take someone into a playoff spot/standings spot they "shouldn't" be in?

In theory it doesn't matter who MSU and YSU are with. It is a flight there and a flight from there for everyone. You could go UNI, MUSU, YSU, WIU and SIU, ISUb, ISUr, MOSO. That evens it out a bit and is geographically "even".

As I said, I don't know the pod thing would actually come to life but it was one of the two main/accepted early ideas.

The other idea of the Dakota 4 staying in their own pod and the other 8 just rotating on and off while creating an 8 team rotation like a separate league probably ends up being "better" from a balance stand point?

Maybe the Dakota 4 thing ends up being dropped. I just know that a large part of the MUSU coming in was the Dakota 4 wanting to protect all 3 of the games against each other. Unsurprisingly everyone else went "yeah, sure". Now, what has changed since December/January? I have no idea. I hope we find out from Patty at 3.

[clenz]

I just think if a league has enough members that all play a sport, the league should sponsor that sport.


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You currently have 5 football playing Summit members. That's not enough for an Auto-Bid. so you don't "have enough members that all play that sport". Remember the Valley also has Valpo and Drake sitting there the same way the Summit has St. Thomas.

I've gone over these and people think I'm obsessed or worried about the Summit passing the Valley in basketball. I'm not. However, the short version

You need 6 to have an auto-bid. Who is your 6th? St. Thomas has zero intention of scholarship football, or even staying in the Summit for longer than they have too. You can go get UNC for a 6th, if they want to leave the Big Sky, but that moves the Summit from the nice number of 10 members to 11. 11 isn't a bad number, and can easily be worked (especially setting up nice 20 game schedules in basketball taking some challenges out of OOC scheduling). I think the issue you are going to run into is I'm not sure WIU stays around for a Summit Football League. In the Valley they have bus trips to UNI, ISUr, ISUb, and SIU. I'm not sure WIU would be thrilled at the idea that every game is a flight for football, on top of adding another flight to Colorado for every other sport every year. WIU seems committed to the Summit/Valley set up with Murray coming in and telling the OVC "no thank" you to their offer to replace Murray in the OVC. You're football conference would hinge on WIU's financial stability, and that's a fairly dangerous game as the OVC could look appealing at that point - or a Horizon/MVFC set up like YSU. Not to mention both the Valley and Summit then needing to schedule 5-6 OOC games a piece every year. We would end up seeing a ton of overlap between the MVC and Summit in that regard again, making it seem like the split was pointless other than to have a "Summit" patch on the uniform. That would also give the FCS a ton of conferences on the edge of being too small, and forming a bunch of alliances like the MVFC again to survive - ASUN, Big South, MEAC, OVC, MVFC, Summit, and WAC would all be at/under the edge of 6 members. That's not healthy for anyone.

If the Summit wants too, and thinks they can, make SLF work then I'm all for it. The Valley has 6 full time members that play football. YSU is 7, and I know of a handful of schools that would be happy to jump as an affiliate in the MVFC similar to YSU. The Valley/Gateway was around for 25+ years. It will survive should they all leave. Now, it's better for everyone if it continues to survive with both conferences putting members in it but schools/conferences need to do what's best for them in the end.

Honestly, changing the name from Gateway to Missouri Valley when the Dakota's joined was dumb and was only going to cause the issues it has over the last 14 years. I was against it when it happened, and I still am now. People can't separate the Valley from the Valley FC. The Dakota schools, more so now than when it was changed as I think it was changed to make the DSU's feel more welcomed, feel like the being named the MVFC means the Valley schools are controlling puppet strings behind the scenes and they aren't welcome. So much of the anxiety about "who controls what, and who votes for who" comes almost exclusively because the name creates this "Valley vs Summit" animosity from the start. If we were voting to add a school to the Gateway Football Conference so much of that is gone before it even has a chance to exist.

EDIT

Went and researched the name change - it appears it was changed to bring a "bigger national name" to the football conference with the addition of the DSU's following the 07 season. The assumption was by attaching the MVC name to it, a name that has been a major player in the basketball/baseball world for a long time, it would make the conference more appealing to those looking to join (the DSU's and at the time the UxDs were being courted and we all know what happened after that).

https://i.imgur.com/cI9Ljqm.jpg

[atthewbon]

IMO summit football doesn't seem very intriguing unless the Montana's join which isn't happening. The only way it could is if the new NCAA rules create a split between the power 5 and group of 5 and then the Montana's and Dakota's want to stay in the second tier of football.

[ST_Lawson]

If it comes down to a choice for WIU to go with Summit League football (Dakota 4 plus another 1 or 2) or the remainder of the MVFC (the ISU's, the MSU's, SIU, UNI, YSU)...then I'd hope that we'd go with the old Gateway/MVFC schools. They're almost all a lot closer to us than the Dakotas, and we have way too much history with them to drop that for a football league where we have to fly everywhere.

Nothing against the Dakota schools...I'm fine playing them...but if we have to pick one "side" or the other, I'm definitely on the side of MVFC/Gateway rather than Summit League.

[JacksFan40]

IMO summit football doesn't seem very intriguing unless the Montana's join which isn't happening. The only way it could is if the new NCAA rules create a split between the power 5 and group of 5 and then the Montana's and Dakota's want to stay in the second tier of football.
Frankly I’d rather see SDSU and NDSU start pushing for an FBS invite, preferably the MWC. When the next round of Big 12 expansions happen they’ll take at least one, possibly two MWC teams. This will open the door for an invite.

Of course I don’t see our athletic department being the type to take matters into their own hands.

[clenz]

Frankly I’d rather see SDSU and NDSU start pushing for an FBS invite, preferably the MWC. When the next round of Big 12 expansions happen they’ll take at least one, possibly two MWC teams. This will open the door for an invite.

Of course I don’t see our athletic department being the type to take matters into their own hands.
I would be Montana and Montana State are more attractive to the MWC than NDSU and SDSU.

Neither has wanted it before, but Costello at Montana State clearly wants it, where past admin didn't. Montana would go in a second if Montana State went because rivalry bravado and also getting to shove it down Idaho's throats.

The Montana schools getting a MWC invite would shockwave the western FCS. The Big Sky all of a sudden is motionless in the water. I think you'd see the WAC shun the non football members and bring in the southern football contingent from the Big Sky leaving schools like Portland State, Sac State, EWU, and Idaho with some real tough decisions.

If the DSU's left it would cause some issues with the Summit, but they still have enough members to survive and the UxDs still have a home in the MVFC, though it becomes a lot less welcoming for them.

[NDSUKurt]

Pods has been the rumor for months, and it was the idea of the Dakota schools from what I heard initially

They didn’t want to give up playing each other every year, and the way they would agree to voting Murray in was some sort of scheduling that allowed for it, but no one liked the division set up because if the inequality between the two

The idea of , essentially, 3 pods of 4 was floated: Dakota 4 and then two pods of the other 8. Play 3 in your pod and then 5 outside your pod rotating through the others.

The other idea I had been told was floated was the Dakota 4 in a permanent rotation with each other and then the other 8 scheduling like they are their own conference and rotating the Dakota schools almost like a OOC type rotation

Don’t know if that happens, but those are the strongest reports I heard on Murray coming in. There’s been time for all that to change when it comes to actually creating the schedule


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To me, one of the largest problems (geographically is) Youngstown State. If you took them out of the MVFC and replaced them with Eastern Illinois, from a geographic standpoint, the conference would be much more compact and the "pods" system would work better.

Heck, I understand the history of Youngstown State and their glory days in the 1990's, but lets be honest here - except for the 1 season of luck where they made it to Frisco (2016), they have not really done anything in recent years that makes people remember them.

I would rather switch the 2 teams and help with some of the travel "issues" (they are not really issues for teams as they travel to Youngstown every other year AT MOST). It is Youngstown that has the problem, and they are on an island location for almost any FCS conference that they would be a member of.

As stated by others in the forum, the competitive problem of divisions will maintain until the eastern/southern schools make needed changes and stop being okay with mediocracy at best.

[clenz]

To me, one of the largest problems (geographically is) Youngstown State. If you took them out of the MVFC and replaced them with Eastern Illinois, from a geographic standpoint, the conference would be much more compact and the "pods" system would work better.

Heck, I understand the history of Youngstown State and their glory days in the 1990's, but lets be honest here - except for the 1 season of luck where they made it to Frisco (2016), they have not really done anything in recent years that makes people remember them.

I would rather switch the 2 teams and help with some of the travel "issues" (they are not really issues for teams as they travel to Youngstown every other year AT MOST). It is Youngstown that has the problem, and they are on an island location for almost any FCS conference that they would be a member of.

As stated by others in the forum, the competitive problem of divisions will maintain until the eastern/southern schools make needed changes and stop being okay with mediocracy at best.
Your last statement is something I'll take issue with though, and the exact reason NDSU was never going to be on the MVC radar going back through any of the years of the Valley looking for members. NDSU only cares about football. While the basketball support has gone up a tiny bit, it's still just not good and it never will be. The best case scenario for 99.99999% of FCS schools is to almost break even on football. It is a sport that all of us love. All of us want. All of us have had forever. It's not a sport that warrants 8+ million dollars a year because you'll never make it back unless you are NDSU/JMU. It's far better for athletic departments at the MM/LM level to focus on things, similar to how the Valley has done it, on building a strong basketball conference/program. For a fraction of the cost of football you can get double the ROI.

NDSU fans want to spend every penny on football and really only care about that sport being a super high level. That's fine. That's your university. That's how you want to run it. That's fantastic for you.

That is about the only drawback to a shared single sport conference like the MVFC.

I'll agree YSU is the "biggest" problem geographically, but they aren't going anywhere. No one else wants them. They've burned every bridge that could exist either on their way out, or in a preemptive "we are too good for you" in others.

EIU has no interest in the MVFC. They left the Gateway for the OVC because of the competition in the Gateway even back then. The OVC and OVC/ASUN isn't going to let them stay OVC for all sports minus football in the MVFC, unless you want them in the Summit.

[atthewbon]

NDSU voted against Murray st joining. I wonder if any other schools did as well. https://twitter.com/mcfeely_inforum/status/1511020160802557952?s=21&t=l6uIc73Fg9gSLBwIQ_l0Fg

[clenz]

It's interesting that the Valley schools, and YSU, none of whom wanted UND (and USD for that matter), all bit the bullet and gave UND the "unanimous yes vote" while bending over to take it.

Yet when it comes time to do it for Murray State, NDSU isn't able to do the same.

I would guess the issue is the MVC now has 6 votes to 5 for the Summit and it means any chance of a 6th Summit school - which would have give the Summit 5 to the Valley 5 and NDSU would have been fine with - is dead. Not a matter of "Oh no, we have to to go Murray, KY"

[JacksFan40]

NDSU voted against Murray st joining. I wonder if any other schools did as well. https://twitter.com/mcfeely_inforum/status/1511020160802557952?s=21&t=l6uIc73Fg9gSLBwIQ_l0Fg
I’d imagine all four Dakota schools voted against Murray.

[SDFS]

I would be Montana and Montana State are more attractive to the MWC than NDSU and SDSU.

Neither has wanted it before, but Costello at Montana State clearly wants it, where past admin didn't. Montana would go in a second if Montana State went because rivalry bravado and also getting to shove it down Idaho's throats.

The Montana schools getting a MWC invite would shockwave the western FCS. The Big Sky all of a sudden is motionless in the water. I think you'd see the WAC shun the non football members and bring in the southern football contingent from the Big Sky leaving schools like Portland State, Sac State, EWU, and Idaho with some real tough decisions.

If the DSU's left it would cause some issues with the Summit, but they still have enough members to survive and the UxDs still have a home in the MVFC, though it becomes a lot less welcoming for them.

I agree if the MWC is looking for two schools - its UM/MSU. It is interesting that 5 to 10 years ago the general narrative would have been UM no problem and can MSU make the jump? But, I don't think that is the case any more. MSU has been upgrading it's school to fit the FBS profile and both schools would be ready for the jump to FBS if they wanted too.

[SDFS]

It's interesting that the Valley schools, and YSU, none of whom wanted UND (and USD for that matter), all bit the bullet and gave UND the "unanimous yes vote" while bending over to take it.

Yet when it comes time to do it for Murray State, NDSU isn't able to do the same.

I would guess the issue is the MVC now has 6 votes to 5 for the Summit and it means any chance of a 6th Summit school - which would have give the Summit 5 to the Valley 5 and NDSU would have been fine with - is dead. Not a matter of "Oh no, we have to to go Murray, KY"

I read the message from NDSU as a potential cover message for moving to G5 should that happen to keep the minions in a line

[SDFS]

Any official talk about scheduling? Pods vs Divisions?

[Bisonator]

It's interesting that the Valley schools, and YSU, none of whom wanted UND (and USD for that matter), all bit the bullet and gave UND the "unanimous yes vote" while bending over to take it.

Yet when it comes time to do it for Murray State, NDSU isn't able to do the same.

I would guess the issue is the MVC now has 6 votes to 5 for the Summit and it means any chance of a 6th Summit school - which would have give the Summit 5 to the Valley 5 and NDSU would have been fine with - is dead. Not a matter of "Oh no, we have to to go Murray, KY"
Difference being UND spends money and cares about FB and is at least mediocre at it. Murray brings absolutely nothing to the MVFC except a doormat. They should have dropped schollies and went to the PL.

[NDSUKurt]

Your last statement is something I'll take issue with though, and the exact reason NDSU was never going to be on the MVC radar going back through any of the years of the Valley looking for members. NDSU only cares about football. While the basketball support has gone up a tiny bit, it's still just not good and it never will be. The best case scenario for 99.99999% of FCS schools is to almost break even on football. It is a sport that all of us love. All of us want. All of us have had forever. It's not a sport that warrants 8+ million dollars a year because you'll never make it back unless you are NDSU/JMU. It's far better for athletic departments at the MM/LM level to focus on things, similar to how the Valley has done it, on building a strong basketball conference/program. For a fraction of the cost of football you can get double the ROI.

NDSU fans want to spend every penny on football and really only care about that sport being a super high level. That's fine. That's your university. That's how you want to run it. That's fantastic for you.

That is about the only drawback to a shared single sport conference like the MVFC.

I'll agree YSU is the "biggest" problem geographically, but they aren't going anywhere. No one else wants them. They've burned every bridge that could exist either on their way out, or in a preemptive "we are too good for you" in others.

EIU has no interest in the MVFC. They left the Gateway for the OVC because of the competition in the Gateway even back then. The OVC and OVC/ASUN isn't going to let them stay OVC for all sports minus football in the MVFC, unless you want them in the Summit.


I do not agree with your assessment of NDSU. Yes, we are a football first school, but that does not mean that we do not care about basketball or want all funding to go to the football program. While NDSU should spend more on basketball, there are plenty of fans that EXPECT NDSU to be a top level basketball program as well. To say that support for the basketball program will never be there is inaccurate. The support is there and will continue, and will get better.

[clenz]

Difference being UND spends money and cares about FB and is at least mediocre at it. Murray brings absolutely nothing to the MVFC except a doormat. They should have dropped schollies and went to the PL.
So what's the issue if Murray isn't good? Who cares?

Isn't the league already so ****ing strong that someone coming in that isn't going to be a top 15-20 team every year a nice addition to the schedule?

Would you be happier if, say, Montana State made some weird play to join the MVFC? They are good. A top 10-15 program. Would that be a better add? Why do we want another top 15 team on the schedule in conference? We already play 6 or 7 of them a year. Do we really want to have to play 8 of them a year in a 9 conference schedule?

The whole "They aren't good enough" just seems strange to me.

SDSU made the D2/small college playoffs one time in over a century before moving with NDSU. Did NDSU fans throw a fit and demand SDSU be left out because they weren't good enough?

NDSU williningly joing the MVFC, home of Indiana State who had these records (I only went back to 99 because you get the point)
3-8
1-10
3-8
5-7
3-9
4-7
0-11
1-10
0-11
0-12
1-11


Clearly being around really ****ty teams wasn't an issue at that point.

So SDSU having one post season bid in a century was acceptable. Indiana State being Indiana State was acceptable. WIU being bad post 02 was acceptable.

But Murray being a 6-5 OVC team isn't acceptable that hasn't made the playoffs recent enough - even though 1979 was recent enough for SDSU - isn't.

Seems like a strange line to me.

I'm not saying I don't see where pushback, and wanting to vote no, might come from. I think everyone is being dishonest (even if not intentionally) about the reason. I'm also perplexed at the fact NDSU (and maybe others) would openly vote no against a membership vote that they knew is going to pass and break every "decorum" regarding membership votes that has existed.

It was mentioned elsewhere, but I think NDSU is angling for something other than just keeping Murray State out because "they aren't good enough"

[clenz]

I agree if the MWC is looking for two schools - its UM/MSU. It is interesting that 5 to 10 years ago the general narrative would have been UM no problem and can MSU make the jump? But, I don't think that is the case any more. MSU has been upgrading it's school to fit the FBS profile and both schools would be ready for the jump to FBS if they wanted too.
5-10 years ago both say no to an invite. It was VERY well known neither wanted anything to do with the FBS/MWC - with or without each other.

Costello taking over at Montana State has changed a lot in terms of ambition for MSU, and by extension Montana to make sure they stay even/ahead. I think at this point both would be willing to make a MWC jump if asked. The Big Sky has, seemingly, grown stale to them in many ways. Plus the ability to look at Idaho and go "Get bent" has to look real good.

[Bisonator]

So what's the issue if Murray isn't good? Who cares?

Isn't the league already so ****ing strong that someone coming in that isn't going to be a top 15-20 team every year a nice addition to the schedule?

Would you be happier if, say, Montana State made some weird play to join the MVFC? They are good. A top 10-15 program. Would that be a better add? Why do we want another top 15 team on the schedule in conference? We already play 6 or 7 of them a year. Do we really want to have to play 8 of them a year in a 9 conference schedule?

The whole "They aren't good enough" just seems strange to me.

SDSU made the D2/small college playoffs one time in over a century before moving with NDSU. Did NDSU fans throw a fit and demand SDSU be left out because they weren't good enough?

NDSU williningly joing the MVFC, home of Indiana State who had these records (I only went back to 99 because you get the point)
3-8
1-10
3-8
5-7
3-9
4-7
0-11
1-10
0-11
0-12
1-11


Clearly being around really ****ty teams wasn't an issue at that point.

So SDSU having one post season bid in a century was acceptable. Indiana State being Indiana State was acceptable. WIU being bad post 02 was acceptable.

But Murray being a 6-5 OVC team isn't acceptable that hasn't made the playoffs recent enough - even though 1979 was recent enough for SDSU - isn't.

Seems like a strange line to me.

I'm not saying I don't see where pushback, and wanting to vote no, might come from. I think everyone is being dishonest (even if not intentionally) about the reason. I'm also perplexed at the fact NDSU (and maybe others) would openly vote no against a membership vote that they knew is going to pass and break every "decorum" regarding membership votes that has existed.

It was mentioned elsewhere, but I think NDSU is angling for something other than just keeping Murray State out because "they aren't good enough"
I hope you're right and NDSU is out in less then 5 years but I fear they are stuck with a bunch of schools that only care about BB at this point.

[atthewbon]

Some scheduling news
https://twitter.com/craighaley/status/1511097393676181504?s=21&t=Rdan-VaOzreebmJ2Jffk0w

[SDFS]

Some scheduling news
https://twitter.com/craighaley/status/1511097393676181504?s=21&t=Rdan-VaOzreebmJ2Jffk0w

Not much of a scheduling mind.. but if each team has to play each least 4 times within 6 years. Does that allow for the protection of the Dakota 4?

[NDB]

So what's the issue if Murray isn't good? Who cares?

Well if that doesn't sum it up.

The point is competition and excellence. You don't get that by watering down the pool.

[BisonFan02]

Well if that doesn't sum it up.

The point is competition and excellence. You don't get that by watering down the pool.

That sums up the MVC members attitude towards football anyway....it also sandbags that regions schedule even more.

[JacksFan40]

I hope you're right and NDSU is out in less then 5 years but I fear they are stuck with a bunch of schools that only care about BB at this point.
Frankly if an FBS move isn’t in the near future for SDSU/NDSU, I’m fine with just pouring our resources into basketball. More money to be made as a mid major power as opposed to an FCS power unfortunately.

[MSUWineGuy]

Any official talk about scheduling? Pods vs Divisions?

There is no good answer this this. I think our best plan would be to do a randomized schedule where a few teams are missing, each year, similar to what we have been doing. There is no way to avoid a Big 10 type of scenario where one division is always LOADED if they make divisions based on geography.

[Bisonator]

Frankly if an FBS move isn’t in the near future for SDSU/NDSU, I’m fine with just pouring our resources into basketball. More money to be made as a mid major power as opposed to an FCS power unfortunately.
True but quite frankly there isn't much to be made as either. Look at the MVC schools that's about the top end as far as BB for either of us. I'd prefer an FBS conference over that every time.

[NDB]

The Great West was substantially better than this 12 team conference.

[Yote 53]

Now that it's a done deal the only thing our football programs can do is show no mercy. Run up the score on the Racers so bad they wish they had never joined the MVFC and will look to move somewhere else after repeatedly getting whipped by 40 points every conference game. Either that or the repeated beatings force them to get better. Either way I hope they enjoy the cellar but it's not a fun place to be. Coyote fans know as we struggled when we made the move into the conference but at least we came in with a commitment to elevate the program and we did, we put the money and resources into getting better and now we're in the top half of the league. Maybe Murray State will do the same. I highly doubt it though.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Been a while for me .. just catching up. Kind of tuned out of lot of sports due to pandemic.

Quick report from Redbird Nation. Some optimism we will recover this year. Things are lining up from 2021 into 2022 a little like 2013 did into 2014. Bad year overall, including weak offensive year but with promising defense. Then hire a new OC with real experience and FBS QB transfer who started games in Big 10.

New OC is Tony Peterson .. pretty impressive track record, though fell off some of late. Record setting Marshall QB as player and OC/QB coach. Did well in several spots: https://goredbirds.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/tony-petersen/1650. Spack knows how to groom DCs, not OCs ... so after several inexperienced guys failed, we got someone who knows something about offense. I hope Spack let's him be in charge.

New QB is from Minnesota, Zack Annexstad .. promising prospect, good size and accuracy. Not a big arm or dual threat, but supposedly very accurate. Started as FR but had couple injuries and fell out of favor. Has impressed with his arm and leadership day one since winter transfer. Obviously didn't work out in Minny, but he was very strong prospect.

Defense impressed at times last year, but offense left them hanging most games. This group will likely impress more this fall .. especially if offense is even just average.

Offense has RBs for sure and decent OL. Not sure about WR group ... it looks like weakest group in a while. But if our new OC and QB can put someting together, WRs may develop. Our pass game has mostly sucked since 2016 .. not fun to be wide receiver around ISUr lately.

We were also very young last year at a lot of positions .. so that aspect can only lead to some improvement. Anyway, my guess is we will succeed going with the Joe Madden approach in 2022 ... and try not to suck. So I'm guessing we will be better for sure ... could put us strongly in 2nd tier of MVFC and back in playoff hunt.

[Redbird 4th & short]

One other report from Redbird Nation ... we finally break ground on our IPF, though it will only be a bubble. ISUr does well financially. One of the reasons they do well financially, is hwo careful they are with how they spend money ... so we only get a bubble. Most of Redbird Nation is just fine with this ... it accomplishes what it needs to accomplish ... offseason workout facility, bad weather option, and recruit attraction .. all on a legit football surface. To this point, our football team had to use Horton facility, which has the old school rough synthetic surface .. nothing like turf or grass.

Schedule to be ready for spring 2023 footall ... so not for late fall. Would be nice to have for playoff run .. we'll see.

[SDFS]

One other report from Redbird Nation ... we finally break ground on our IPF, though it will only be a bubble. ISUr does well financially. One of the reasons they do well financially, is hwo careful they are with how they spend money ... so we only get a bubble. Most of Redbird Nation is just fine with this ... it accomplishes what it needs to accomplish ... offseason workout facility, bad weather option, and recruit attraction .. all on a legit football surface. To this point, our football team had to use Horton facility, which has the old school rough synthetic surface .. nothing like turf or grass.

Schedule to be ready for spring 2023 footall ... so not for late fall. Would be nice to have for playoff run .. we'll see.

Sounds like a solid investment. NDSU has used a bubble type of solution for years. NOTE: They are currently building a permanent structure for football practice.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Sounds like a solid investment. NDSU has used a bubble type of solution for years. NOTE: They are currently building a permanent structure for football practice.

If .. ahem ... when, that is ... when we win 9 championships in the next 11 seasons, we too will get some brick and mortar at that point.

:D

[Hammersmith]

If .. ahem ... when, that is ... when we win 9 championships in the next 11 seasons, we too will get some brick and mortar at that point.

:D

Hey, the bubble did very well for us for almost a decade. Wasn't perfect, but it got the job done for well less than $2M. Biggest issue was just the ongoing operational cost. Expensive in labor to put up and take down every year(NDSU staff did it, but that was time they could have been using doing other needed jobs), and high costs of heating it and keeping it inflated. Hopefully your heating costs won't be nearly so large with your milder winters. The extreme conditions up here also hastened it's aging. It was supposed to easily last for 10-12 years, but it was really showing its age at only 8; just too much cold, wind and snow.

The new permanent football IPF at NDSU will be very nice, but like you, we had other pressing capital needs at the time that were far more important(rebuilding the main athletics building and basketball arena).

[Redbird 4th & short]

Hey, the bubble did very well for us for almost a decade. Wasn't perfect, but it got the job done for well less than $2M. Biggest issue was just the ongoing operational cost. Expensive in labor to put up and take down every year(NDSU staff did it, but that was time they could have been using doing other needed jobs), and high costs of heating it and keeping it inflated. Hopefully your heating costs won't be nearly so large with your milder winters. The extreme conditions up here also hastened it's aging. It was supposed to easily last for 10-12 years, but it was really showing its age at only 8; just too much cold, wind and snow.

The new permanent football IPF at NDSU will be very nice, but like you, we had other pressing capital needs at the time that were far more important(rebuilding the main athletics building and basketball arena).

Yeesh .. can NOT imagine heating costs for a bubble in Fargo area. I believe ours is a permanent facility bubble, so I don't think idea is to take it up and down. We're paying 11.5m, so I'm thinking it will be a nice structure - it had better be ... as bubbles go.

Here is local paper dscription:

"The Indoor Practice Facility will be a heated, quality opaque dual-membrane fabric air dome with insulation pockets for planned year-round use. The facility will be built in the location of the current football practice field directly north of Horton Field House. It will be 69 feet high, 393 feet long and 201 feet wide with LED lighting. A 100-yard practice football field will feature a single end zone with run off areas and artificial turf to match the current surface at Hancock Stadium." - Pantagraph

So full field but only 1 end zone .. hmmm, maybe will move our game with Bison there and give your offense the side with no end zone ?? Improve our chances ... al you can do is score on Safeties !!! xdrunkyx

Again, for 11.5m compared to your 2m just 8-10 years ago ... it better be nice. Other good thing budget-wise, is that it's already paid for .. no debt, justfund raising. Our Hancock Stadium renovation was a complete rebuild of east side in 2013. it was 25m I think, but we paid for with a bond that was expiring from our basket rebuild in late 1980's .. so almost all debt for Hancock ... but folks are very happy with it.


But yeah, I'd say the 2m bubble worked just fine for your Bison.

[Hammersmith]

Yeesh .. can NOT imagine heating costs for a bubble in Fargo area. I believe ours is a permanent facility bubble, so I don't think idea is to take it up and down. We're paying 11.5m, so I'm thinking it will be a nice structure - it had better be ... as bubbles go.

Here is local paper dscription:

"The Indoor Practice Facility will be a heated, quality opaque dual-membrane fabric air dome with insulation pockets for planned year-round use. The facility will be built in the location of the current football practice field directly north of Horton Field House. It will be 69 feet high, 393 feet long and 201 feet wide with LED lighting. A 100-yard practice football field will feature a single end zone with run off areas and artificial turf to match the current surface at Hancock Stadium." - Pantagraph

So full field but only 1 end zone .. hmmm, maybe will move our game with Bison there and give your offense the side with no end zone ?? Improve our chances ... al you can do is score on Safeties !!! xdrunkyx

Again, for 11.5m compared to your 2m just 8-10 years ago ... it better be nice. Other good thing budget-wise, is that it's already paid for .. no debt, justfund raising. Our Hancock Stadium renovation was a complete rebuild of east side in 2013. it was 25m I think, but we paid for with a bond that was expiring from our basket rebuild in late 1980's .. so almost all debt for Hancock ... but folks are very happy with it.


But yeah, I'd say the 2m bubble worked just fine for your Bison.

Doesn't really matter that much, but one of the reasons it was so cheap was because there was virtually no site prep needed. The soccer team plays on the old football field, which is artificial turf over a concrete subsurface that's adjacent to the main athletic building. That made it super easy to just plop a seasonal bubble on it. And I think it was only about 60 yards long, so yours will be around twice or more the square footage.

In your case, there's probably a million just to prep the site and set up utilities, another million or two for the turf, and then the remainder for the actual bubble. It should be a good ROI for your program. As long as you already have both indoor and outdoor T&F facilities(which you do), this is a good option. Neither SDSU nor UND had acceptable T&F options, so they pretty much had to go with oversized, permanent IPFs. Like you, NDSU had both T&F facilities, so a bubble was good enough for some winter practices.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Doesn't really matter that much, but one of the reasons it was so cheap was because there was virtually no site prep needed. The soccer team plays on the old football field, which is artificial turf over a concrete subsurface that's adjacent to the main athletic building. That made it super easy to just plop a seasonal bubble on it. And I think it was only about 60 yards long, so yours will be around twice or more the square footage.

In your case, there's probably a million just to prep the site and set up utilities, another million or two for the turf, and then the remainder for the actual bubble. It should be a good ROI for your program. As long as you already have both indoor and outdoor T&F facilities(which you do), this is a good option. Neither SDSU nor UND had acceptable T&F options, so they pretty much had to go with oversized, permanent IPFs. Like you, NDSU had both T&F facilities, so a bubble was good enough for some winter practices.

Good info ... as for site prep, we're losing our outdoor grass practice field. But as you likeely underdstand, that is non-issue. This article is from 2013, so I assume the artificla turf #'s have only gone up since.

https://www.vanquishthefoe.com/2012/7/2/3129894/is-natural-grass-dying-in-college-football


Indicates 65% of FBS has turf. But if you split to BCS and non-BCS ... BCS is 47% turf, non-BCS is 94% turf. Which screams cost-benefit is THE consideration to go to turf. So I assume 90% of our games are turf .. other than FBS games and occasional FCS game.

FYI on our indoor facility, Horton fieldhouse ... it backs up our west side of Hancock and is integrated. with Hancock. But is very convenient and cost beneficial to hang onto it for indoor use .. T&F, etc, plus campus intramurals, plus overflow for any hosted events.

But the other issue in play is that the older structure for the west stands for Hancock Stadium kind of depend on each other - so we only redid all the stands on west side, prior to 2013 east side reno. This was partly why we did our 25m eastside full demo and rebuild, then moved the "home side" from west to east side. Not to mention the east side was the Main Street and kind of a face to our campus for people dirving thru town. But it would have been much more expensive to do west side than the east side ... doing full reno was out of question, but is part of long term plan. If there's money, we will do redo end zones before we redo west side ... and then maybe Horton will come down .. given trends and ISUr carefu approach, it could be 10 years or so for that.

And now we're makinng a run at hosting the IHSA football playoffs again ... our chances look pretty good. If we get this, all that traffic of HS football teams and families will do wonders for Illinois recruiting ... and not just football.

Again, ISU admin and finance people are smart and a frugal .. it is why we don't struggle like so many other schools in Illinois at our level. Not knocking other schools at all .. state of Illinois issues have made it really hard on them in terms of funding disappearinng.

[bonarae]

Wow. No NDSU fans reported this ahead of me here... turf change coming to the Fargodome.

https://www.bison1660.com/2022/04/20/big-change-coming-to-fargodome/

[Professor Chaos]

Wow. No NDSU fans reported this ahead of me here... turf change coming to the Fargodome.

https://www.bison1660.com/2022/04/20/big-change-coming-to-fargodome/
Sounds like it'll pretty much look the same but a change that was loooong overdue. It was embarrassing how crooked some of the yard lines (including the goal lines) had gotten. Someone commented that the Fargodome is only football field in the country where you can score a TD running sideways. So the important part of the new turf is the strong underlayment. With the way they roll and unroll the turf it makes converting the floor from a football field to convention space much faster than laying out the square turf segments that most multi-purpose venues have but puts a lot of pressure on that underlayment.

[TheKingpin28]

As you can see, the field is not straight.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220425/aa14c207d377b032668ad16690901355.jpg

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[Redbird 4th & short]

Sounds like it'll pretty much look the same but a change that was loooong overdue. It was embarrassing how crooked some of the yard lines (including the goal lines) had gotten. Someone commented that the Fargodome is only football field in the country where you can score a TD running sideways. So the important part of the new turf is the strong underlayment. With the way they roll and unroll the turf it makes converting the floor from a football field to convention space much faster than laying out the square turf segments that most multi-purpose venues have but puts a lot of pressure on that underlayment.

Aha !!! This explains how the replay officials got the over-rule so wrong on your sideline lateral throw in our 2019 playoff game. Our CB broke the play up behind the LOS and did scoop and run for TD. Field ref got it right, booth over-ruled ... and we got good taste of your home cooking !! Replay showed it was very close, but it was a lateral and TD should have stood.

Lost by 6 as I recall .. is it too late to protest ???

xdrunkyx

[Chalupa Batman]

Aha !!! This explains how the replay officials got the over-rule so wrong on your sideline lateral throw in our 2019 playoff game. Our CB broke the play up behind the LOS and did scoop and run for TD. Field ref got it right, booth over-ruled ... and we got good taste of your home cooking !! Replay showed it was very close, but it was a lateral and TD should have stood.

Lost by 6 as I recall .. is it too late to protest ???

xdrunkyx

That play was blown dead on the field. And if it wasn't blown dead it's very likely Christian Watson catches your DB from behind, and there's a chance that Trey Lance has the angle to run him down as well. I agree that it was a lateral as it looked like it went directly down the 45-yard line, but I don't think it would've been 6 points for you. 1st & 10 around the NDSU 35 yard line would be my guess.

[clenz]

UNI finally has a new offense it seems.

Reports from the spring game is the UNI offense has gone from the same bull**** Farley has run for 15 years with every single play having a read option fake to running something very similar to EWU

[Redbird 4th & short]

That play was blown dead on the field. And if it wasn't blown dead it's very likely Christian Watson catches your DB from behind, and there's a chance that Trey Lance has the angle to run him down as well. I agree that it was a lateral as it looked like it went directly down the 45-yard line, but I don't think it would've been 6 points for you. 1st & 10 around the NDSU 35 yard line would be my guess.

Oh wait, you are right on the field call .. bit of selective recall on that point .. dang it !

So was a replay review even allowed for that play due to change of possession ?

Regardless, I'm still blaming your turf lines for our loss !!

:D

p.s. but yes, our offense (i.e. James Robinson) completely faded after Q1 .. so, it would have been a 3 and out, punted into end zone, back to your own 20.

[Hammerhead]

In case anyone is wondering why they don't just cover the turf for other events, that would prevent moving the stands at the south end zone across the floor to host things like basketball games or half-house concerts.



Sounds like it'll pretty much look the same but a change that was loooong overdue. It was embarrassing how crooked some of the yard lines (including the goal lines) had gotten. Someone commented that the Fargodome is only football field in the country where you can score a TD running sideways. So the important part of the new turf is the strong underlayment. With the way they roll and unroll the turf it makes converting the floor from a football field to convention space much faster than laying out the square turf segments that most multi-purpose venues have but puts a lot of pressure on that underlayment.

[SDFS]

UNI finally has a new offense it seems.

Reports from the spring game is the UNI offense has gone from the same bull**** Farley has run for 15 years with every single play having a read option fake to running something very similar to EWU

Do you have the QB for that offense?

[clenz]

We'll find out.

Not like the offense can get that much worse than it has been for the last 13 years.

EWU's offense also isn't super complex, and while they've produced super high production QBs, it doesn't take a high end QB to be productive in it. It's a lot of quick hits, one or two reads, short and in the middle to open the deep shots.

[Chalupa Batman]

UNI finally has a new offense it seems.

Reports from the spring game is the UNI offense has gone from the same bull**** Farley has run for 15 years with every single play having a read option fake to running something very similar to EWU

This would be good news, and a welcome surprise given how stubborn Farley can be. Maybe I misremember but I saw some years ago you guys had a new OC who for some reason found himself out of a job after the offense dominated the defense in the spring game.

[clenz]

Ah yes, Joe Davis.

There were strong rumors (for lack of a better word) Farley didn't really want him but he was "strongly suggested" by the previous AD who was feeling the pressure from fans to make changes on the staff. Davis was a young guy who came from a D2 out east and wasn't proven on the D1 level. So Farley was "asked" to hire a young east coast D2 kid to run an offense. That offense came in and was wildly different than anything he'd ever run (and at that point he even really saw from opponents). His offense lit the defense up in a scrimmage while going no huddle using misdirection, screens, and quick hits. Farley was pissed he was getting shown up and...well...that scrimmage was the last time that offense was run.

Pre UNI Davis

4 years at a D3 as OC/QB coach - devoloped 18 All Conference guys, multiple All Americans, averaged 35 points per game and well over 400 yards
During his time at Shippensburg (D2) between 13-15 he broke 55 school records, multiple All Americans, and averaged 520 yards per game and 30 first downs per game.

One season at UNI and even with Farley neuturing him the offense broke the school record for rushing yards in a season, had 2 1,000 yard rushers in the same season for the first time in school history, and the QB broke the MVFC record for rushing yards and TDs for a QB - 1334 and 19

He then went to Fordham for 2 years as QB coach/passing game coord where QB Kevin Anderson set the school record for career passing TDs, averaged 280 yarsd passing per game and was the 8th straight year a QB he coached accounted for more than 3,000 yards and 30 TD

Then went to Albany where he turned Undercuffler into an All American setting school records for passing TDs, averaged 32 ppg, 390 ypg, etc.

Yeah - what a shame it was we had to deal with him for a year trying to run that kind of offense at UNI.


The difference at this point is Farley has gone on record in the media this spring going "I realized the offense needed to change". The fact he admits it needed changing is the first time that's happened. Reeder is also VERY established as an OC and from what I've been told he was put in touch with him by a guy who coached WR under Farley and then went to EWU for a few years and was under Reeder out there. Those two talked and Reeder was interviewed and got the job.

The program has also picked up a handful of late WR additions through the portal, and is still offering WRs for this year, if that is any indication for the offense actually changing for once.


I say all that and come September I'm fully prepared for more bull**** fake read option plays where the RBs first 3 steps are sidways.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Ah yes, Joe Davis.

.............

One season at UNI and even with Farley neuturing him ...

.................

The difference at this point is Farley has gone on record in the media this spring going "I realized the offense needed to change". The fact he admits it needed changing is the first time that's happened.



So many similarities with Farley and Spack in terms of heir strengths and weakness. We're still waiting for Spack to have same revelation .. though after several failed "startup" OC failures since Beathard left after 2015, we did finally get a new OC with actual prior experience and success .. Tony Petersen. We haven't had anyone with experience or credibility since Beathard left after 2015 season .. ignoring his one brief stint.

https://goredbirds.com/news/2022/1/18/petersen-added-to-football-staff-as-offensive-coordinator.aspx#:~:text=NORMAL%2C%20Ill.,for%20Re dbird%20Football%20on%20Tuesday.

edit .. I guess Beathard was back for all of 2018-19 .. but we had no QB.

[Redbird 4th & short]

NFL 2022 draft ... I'm sure this is pasted somewhere else. But the MVFC fared very well by comparison to top FCS conferences i nthis years draft. Also did well against several G5 conferences. In fact, there was he P5, then AAC, then Mountais West, then our MVFC with 8. This doesn't include ISUr DT John Ridgeway who transfered to Arkansas his last season .. might be others who did the portal their last season ... but I'd say MVFC had 9 drafted and SEC only got 64 !!!

xnodx xdrunkyx




ONFERENCE
PLAYERS DRAFTED


SEC
65


Big Ten
48


Big 12
25


Pac-12
25


ACC
21


AAC
19


Mountain West
11


Missouri Valley Football Conference
8


C-USA
6


MAC
6


Sun Belt
6


Independent
5


Big Sky
3


SoCon
2


SWAC
2


CAA
1


CIAA (DII)
1


Great American (DII)
1


Gulf South (DII)
1


Ivy
1


MEAC
1


MIAA (DII)
1


Patriot
1


South Atlantic (DII)
1


WAC
1

[SDFS]

UND picked up Tyler Hoosman a RB from UNI. Any MVFC fans with a take on Tyler?

[clenz]

He’s decent. He isn’t fast. Doesn’t have a ton of moves. Came in with hype and was almost instantly recruited over and buried on the chart. His high mark was his freshman year and production went down every year since. Just 30 carries for 2.3 ypc last season. 10 total receptions for his career.

Many times on his runs you just wanted to yell “unhook the plow” and he wasn’t even to the LOS yet.


Nothing bad to say about him. Nothing overly good either as far as a football player. He can be a fairly productive back, but I wouldn’t expect a game changer in most any sense.


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[SDFS]

He’s decent. He isn’t fast. Doesn’t have a ton of moves. Came in with hype and was almost instantly recruited over and buried on the chart. His high mark was his freshman year and production went down every year since. Just 30 carries for 2.3 ypc last season. 10 total receptions for his career.

Many times on his runs you just wanted to yell “unhook the plow” and he wasn’t even to the LOS yet.


Nothing bad to say about him. Nothing overly good either as far as a football player. He can be a fairly productive back, but I wouldn’t expect a game changer in most any sense.


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UND was looking for a short yard RB. Do you think he would fit that role?

[clenz]

UND was looking for a short yard RB. Do you think he would fit that role?
I would guess so. He's 6' 215-220 IIRC, and it's mostly all muscle.

If you are going for a "thunder/lightning" type deal he'll work alright for you. I haven't looked, but I bet he has roughly 250-260 carries in his career and I'm not sure he has more than 15 over 10 yards. Honestly, most of his games seemed to be 1 run of 20 yards (give or take 5) and then the other 9 or 10 tend to be 3 or less. The 20 yard runs could be 30+ if he had another gear. Most of his 2 or 3 yarders would be 5 or 6 if he had a bit better first step. He's close to being a damn solid piece, but missing those gears just seemed to hurt him.

It didn't help him our run scheme wasn't a great fit for him, but it was one of those he just was recruited over by more rounded/faster guys. It happens, sadly. You hope every kid that comes in becomes an All Conference player, but it just doesn't happen for most all. UNI's run scheme has traditionally been slow developing run plays, and if the guy taking the hand off didn't have the ability to make guys miss and then burst away (David Johson, Tyus Smith, or a guy like Vance McShane or Dom Williams now) then it would be a struggle to get yards.

Maybe UND has a bit more of a direct run game, which would be far more suited to Tyler. In that kind of system he could be a nice solid player. Though I wouldn't expect him to do much in passing situations if you need someone out of the backfield.

[SDFS]

I would guess so. He's 6' 215-220 IIRC, and it's mostly all muscle.

If you are going for a "thunder/lightning" type deal he'll work alright for you. I haven't looked, but I bet he has roughly 250-260 carries in his career and I'm not sure he has more than 15 over 10 yards. Honestly, most of his games seemed to be 1 run of 20 yards (give or take 5) and then the other 9 or 10 tend to be 3 or less. The 20 yard runs could be 30+ if he had another gear. Most of his 2 or 3 yarders would be 5 or 6 if he had a bit better first step. He's close to being a damn solid piece, but missing those gears just seemed to hurt him.

It didn't help him our run scheme wasn't a great fit for him, but it was one of those he just was recruited over by more rounded/faster guys. It happens, sadly. You hope every kid that comes in becomes an All Conference player, but it just doesn't happen for most all. UNI's run scheme has traditionally been slow developing run plays, and if the guy taking the hand off didn't have the ability to make guys miss and then burst away (David Johson, Tyus Smith, or a guy like Vance McShane or Dom Williams now) then it would be a struggle to get yards.

Maybe UND has a bit more of a direct run game, which would be far more suited to Tyler. In that kind of system he could be a nice solid player. Though I wouldn't expect him to do much in passing situations if you need someone out of the backfield.

Nice review - thanks

[mmiller_34]

mmiller is a Jacks fan?

Always been. Always will be.

[BeamMeUp]

Youngstown State has brought in Ohio State safety Marcus Hooker from nearby New Castle, PA (20 mins east of Youngstown). His brother is former Buckeye and NFL safety Malik Hooker.

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32461&stc=1

[Paladin1aa]

Youngstown State has brought in Ohio State safety Marcus Hooker from nearby New Castle, PA (20 mins east of Youngstown). His brother is former Buckeye and NFL safety Malik Hooker.

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32461&stc=1

Hooker will be a serious upgrade for YSU. Great talent but a discipline problem. Not as good as older brother, but way better than FCS. Injury moved him down OSU depth chart after starting for awhile.

[MR. CHICKEN]

......HAPPY BIRTHDAY crunifan!......LAST POST 09/04/2012......NOT MUCH EXCITEMENT @ NORFFERN IOWA.......SINCE BIZONSSSSS HAVE TAKEN CHARGE......HUH?.........AWK!

[SDFS]

Otis to Missouri St. this should be interesting.

[ST_Lawson]

WIU Senior DL Hunter Mason (https://goleathernecks.com/sports/football/roster/hunter-mason/19433) has died. He appeared in in all 12 games as a R-Fr in 2019, all 6 games in the 2021 spring season, and all 11 games in the fall 2021 season finishing with 34 tackles. This last season, Hunter was an All-MVFC Honorable Mention, and had planned on doing a grad-transfer for next season.

Hunter was diagnosed in early April with a glioblastoma (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/glioblastoma/cdc-20350148), had surgery a few days later, then traveled to Houston, TX for treatment (more info (https://www.nevadadailymail.com/story/2950233.html)). A week ago, he had to return home because his body couldn't handle the treatment, and he passed away last night at the age of 22.

f*** cancer

EDIT - More info about Hunter: https://goleathernecks.com/news/2022/6/1/athletics-department-western-illinois-athletics-mourns-the-loss-of-hunter-mason.aspx

[Redbird 4th & short]

WIU Senior DL Hunter Mason (https://goleathernecks.com/sports/football/roster/hunter-mason/19433) has died. He appeared in in all 12 games as a R-Fr in 2019, all 6 games in the 2021 spring season, and all 11 games in the fall 2021 season finishing with 34 tackles. This last season, Hunter was an All-MVFC Honorable Mention, and had planned on doing a grad-transfer for next season.

Hunter was diagnosed in early April with a glioblastoma (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/glioblastoma/cdc-20350148), had surgery a few days later, then traveled to Houston, TX for treatment (more info (https://www.nevadadailymail.com/story/2950233.html)). A week ago, he had to return home because his body couldn't handle the treatment, and he passed away last night at the age of 22.

f*** cancer
sorry to hear Lawson. Way too young and so fast.

[The Yo Show]

WIU Senior DL Hunter Mason (https://goleathernecks.com/sports/football/roster/hunter-mason/19433) has died. He appeared in in all 12 games as a R-Fr in 2019, all 6 games in the 2021 spring season, and all 11 games in the fall 2021 season finishing with 34 tackles. This last season, Hunter was an All-MVFC Honorable Mention, and had planned on doing a grad-transfer for next season.

Hunter was diagnosed in early April with a glioblastoma (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/glioblastoma/cdc-20350148), had surgery a few days later, then traveled to Houston, TX for treatment (more info (https://www.nevadadailymail.com/story/2950233.html)). A week ago, he had to return home because his body couldn't handle the treatment, and he passed away last night at the age of 22.

f*** cancer

Dude this is terrible.

[bonarae]

Uh oh... Missouri State stops Otis Weah's playing with them before he could even practice due to a sexual assault inquiry / case. He was consequently banned from the campus for 5 years. (Info from an article on the Fargo Forum paywall summarized on the FB FCS group.)

He may have to hang up his cleats by then.

[Bisonoline]

WIU Senior DL Hunter Mason (https://goleathernecks.com/sports/football/roster/hunter-mason/19433) has died. He appeared in in all 12 games as a R-Fr in 2019, all 6 games in the 2021 spring season, and all 11 games in the fall 2021 season finishing with 34 tackles. This last season, Hunter was an All-MVFC Honorable Mention, and had planned on doing a grad-transfer for next season.

Hunter was diagnosed in early April with a glioblastoma (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/glioblastoma/cdc-20350148), had surgery a few days later, then traveled to Houston, TX for treatment (more info (https://www.nevadadailymail.com/story/2950233.html)). A week ago, he had to return home because his body couldn't handle the treatment, and he passed away last night at the age of 22.

f*** cancer

EDIT - More info about Hunter: https://goleathernecks.com/news/2022/6/1/athletics-department-western-illinois-athletics-mourns-the-loss-of-hunter-mason.aspx

This makes me sad.

[Mfergy4]

This makes me sad.

Prayers to WIU players, coaches, and the family of Hunter Mason.

[ST_Lawson]

WIU has named a new Athletic Director (the previous one stepped down in the spring for another job outside the athletics world).

Paul Bubb is originally from the area, got his Bachelors from Monmouth College (about 35 miles north of Macomb), and Masters at WIU.
He's worked in/with athletic departments at: SIU, Drake, Cal State Northridge, Boise State, Maine, Idaho State, Murray State, and Cal Poly Pomona.
He was most recently (since 2018) the Executive Director of Development with our Foundation office here at WIU and has a lot of experience in developing fundraising (something we sorely need).
Full resume: http://www.wiu.edu/employment/_archive/_old_searches/2022/athletic_director/bubb.pdf
(http://www.wiu.edu/employment/_archive/_old_searches/2022/athletic_director/bubb.pdf)
He also has two daughters in Macomb, one of which works at Western, the other was my daughter's 3rd grade teacher.

Overall, I'm pretty happy with this announcement. Hopefully Paul can get things turned around for Western.

Official announcement: https://goleathernecks.com/news/2022/6/22/athletics-department-paul-bubb-named-director-of-wiu-intercollegiate-athletics.aspx

[ysubigred]

YSU news:

University President Jim Tressel to step down in February 23.

As the Head Coach of the 90s run YSU put on in football, I believe he's been a better University President.

YSU has grown leaps and bounds in other areas besides sports.

The only thing he didn't accomplish is getting rid of our dismal AD..

good luck in your future endeavors JT xsalutex

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[SUPharmacist]

YSU news:

University President Jim Tressel to step down in February 23.

As the Head Coach of the 90s run YSU put on in football, I believe he's been a better University President.

YSU has grown leaps and bounds in other areas besides sports.

The only thing he didn't accomplish is getting rid of our dismal AD..

good luck in your future endeavors JT xsalutex

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Quasi-related question. I don’t follow universities other than ones I care about closely, but is there a small percent of decent coaches who transition to being Presidents? When Tressel took that role I couldn’t think of any others who have followed that path. I can see how skills could translate, but it just seemed so weird to me.

[nodak651]

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Quasi-related question. I don’t follow universities other than ones I care about closely, but is there a small percent of decent coaches who transition to being Presidents? When Tressel took that role I couldn’t think of any others who have followed that path. I can see how skills could translate, but it just seemed so weird to me.

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[BeamMeUp]

Jim Tressel will be greatly missed across the Youngstown metro area (Mahoning Valley). He is well respected in our area and throughout the state. He has done a great deal, not only for the university, but the city and region as a whole constantly advocating for it in Columbus and DC. Whoever is his replacement has big shoes to follow!

[ysubigred]

Quasi-related question. I don’t follow universities other than ones I care about closely, but is there a small percent of decent coaches who transition to being Presidents? When Tressel took that role I couldn’t think of any others who have followed that path. I can see how skills could translate, but it just seemed so weird to me.You're right I can't think of anyone else to go from HC to university president. If there are I'm not aware of any.

Mr Tressel was also YSUs AD the same time he was the HC early on in the 90s.. I've met him and had dinner at MVR with him and his better half Ellen. Just setting there for a few hours I learned he was a rare guy with so many great attributes. No doubt he'd go past HC. Actually shocked he's not ventured into politics.

He'll be missed in the Y-town community and the university. I have a feeling he'll still have some influence.


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[Paladin1aa]

YSU news:

University President Jim Tressel to step down in February 23.

As the Head Coach of the 90s run YSU put on in football, I believe he's been a better University President.

YSU has grown leaps and bounds in other areas besides sports.

The only thing he didn't accomplish is getting rid of our dismal AD..

good luck in your future endeavors JT xsalutex

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If you remember, the current idiot at AD was his “recommendation” to succeed him as AD when he left for Ohio St. Hard to admit that failure and he was one of his players.

The Tressels have built a home in Fla and ,as I understand ,will split time between Ohio and Fla.

Tressel is bailing out as YSU faces a number of major problems - they are cutting whole departments and laying off staff with a huge drop in enrollment under his watch. Financial problems will be continuing problems for years to come.

[ysubigred]

If you remember, the current idiot at AD was his “recommendation” to succeed him as AD when he left for Ohio St. Hard to admit that failure and he was one of his players.

The Tressels have built a home in Fla and ,as I understand ,will split time between Ohio and Fla.

Tressel is bailing out as YSU faces a number of major problems - they are cutting whole departments and laying off staff with a huge drop in enrollment under his watch. Financial problems will be continuing problems for years to come.I remember his recommending Ron.. You can read into it what you want about stepping down. I believe he's not running from anything.

He's 70 spent 8 years in the job. As all universities YSU is suffering the economic pain of lower enrollment.

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[Professor Chaos]

Just noticed this after seeing Sam Herder's tweet predicting USD's record this upcoming season but check out the first 5 games of the year for the Yotes: https://goyotes.com/sports/football/schedule/2022

@ Kansas St
@ Montana
vs Cal Poly
vs NDSU
@ SDSU

That's an FBS bowl team and 3 of the top 4 FCS teams in the preseason national polls all in their first 5 games. Yikes...

The back half of their schedule isn't a cake walk either. The 2 MVFC teams they miss are WIU and Indiana St so they seem to have drawn the short straw in the unbalanced MVFC schedule contest this year.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Just noticed this after seeing Sam Herder's tweet predicting USD's record this upcoming season but check out the first 5 games of the year for the Yotes: https://goyotes.com/sports/football/schedule/2022

@ Kansas St
@ Montana
vs Cal Poly
vs NDSU
@ SDSU

That's an FBS bowl team and 3 of the top 4 FCS teams in the preseason national polls all in their first 5 games. Yikes...

The back half of their schedule isn't a cake walk either. The 2 MVFC teams they miss are WIU and Indiana St so they seem to have drawn the short straw in the unbalanced MVFC schedule contest this year.


Cal Poly is the only game they have a chance in.

1-4

They will get bitched slapped in the other games IMO.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Just noticed this after seeing Sam Herder's tweet predicting USD's record this upcoming season but check out the first 5 games of the year for the Yotes: https://goyotes.com/sports/football/schedule/2022

@ Kansas St
@ Montana
vs Cal Poly
vs NDSU
@ SDSU

That's an FBS bowl team and 3 of the top 4 FCS teams in the preseason national polls all in their first 5 games. Yikes...

The back half of their schedule isn't a cake walk either. The 2 MVFC teams they miss are WIU and Indiana St so they seem to have drawn the short straw in the unbalanced MVFC schedule contest this year.
Wow, that schedule will go down in history as one of the toughest ever.

[Professor Chaos]

Another oddity for USD's conference schedule is this will be the 3rd straight season (not counting the 2021 spring season when they played neither due to COVID cancellations) that they'll play NDSU and SDSU in back-to-back weeks.

Apparently somebody in Vermillion pissed off someone in the MVFC conference offices...

In any case USD will probably be the MVFC team this year that fans from the weaker conference scream about being ranked with a losing record if they manage to get out of those first 5 games at 2-3.

EDIT: I guess they do have a bye week in between the games this year but it's still the 3rd straight year they'll play NDSU and SDSU in back-back-back games.

[Professor Chaos]

UNI also has a "different" schedule this year:

@ Air Force
@ UND
vs Sac St
@ WIU
vs Indiana St
vs Illinois St
vs Utah Tech
vs Missouri St
@ SIU
vs SDSU
Bye
@ USD

They lead off with a tough but winnable FBS game (Air Force is a good MWC team) but they don't have the usual murderer's row of games although those last 3 might be tough. They get 4 straight weeks of home games in the middle of the season and they miss NDSU this year. I think the first 3 games will be telling... they could come out of those 3-0 or 0-3. Even if they come out of those 2-1 they might be a top 5 team by late October.

[POD Knows]

Here is a shot of the new outdoor practice field for the Bison and a side shot of the IPF that is being constructed, this is a pretty impressive complex


https://i.imgur.com/DZS0xK2.jpg

[Chalupa Batman]

UNI also has a "different" schedule this year:

@ Air Force
@ UND
vs Sac St
@ WIU
vs Indiana St
vs Illinois St
vs Utah Tech
vs Missouri St
@ SIU
vs SDSU
Bye
@ USD

They lead off with a tough but winnable FBS game (Air Force is a good MWC team) but they don't have the usual murderer's row of games although those last 3 might be tough. They get 4 straight weeks of home games in the middle of the season and they miss NDSU this year. I think the first 3 games will be telling... they could come out of those 3-0 or 0-3. Even if they come out of those 2-1 they might be a top 5 team by late October.

I would think there has to be a sense of urgency there to take advantage of this schedule and get a seed. Winnable FBS game, 3 of their 4 toughest FCS games at home. 1 FBS loss and 1 FCS loss is very doable and a lock to get a seed, and with 2 FCS losses they'd still be in play for a seed. If they don't get a seed this year, when will they?

[Redbird 4th & short]

Here is a shot of the new outdoor practice field for the Bison and a side shot of the IPF that is being constructed, this is a pretty impressive complex


https://i.imgur.com/DZS0xK2.jpg

Sames over at ISUr ... well, sort of, kind of, ... uh ... not really.

Issue is not money, that we already have ... Supply chain ? Incompetence ? Global warming ? I dunno. Bu tthe good news is we have a construction fence built to keep people safe around the are that has made zero progress .. other than the 1' x 8' ceremonial ground breaking .. aka, about the same size as the raised garden bed on my patio for growing basil, cilantro, chives, and a cherry tomato plant.

Goal is to have it ready for Jan 2023 spring ball.

NORMAL — Illinois State held a ceremonial groundbreaking for its new Indoor Practice Facility (https://pantagraph.com/sports/college/illinois-state/watch-now-illinois-state-breaks-ground-on-indoor-practice-facility/article_a0a9065c-6c24-5cce-9a30-58237dec96fd.html) on April 9.

More than three months later, that ground on the Redbirds football team practice field north of Horton Field House remains undisturbed.

Yet Illinois State director of athletics Kyle Brennan (https://pantagraph.com/sports/college/illinois-state/watch-now-illinois-state-claims-third-straight-mvc-all-sports-championship/article_69ae5a34-e2b5-11ec-bf3e-17cfede7ccbd.html) points to the recent installation of a construction fence and trailer in an adjacent parking lot as a sign that the project is progressing.

[POD Knows]

https://www.jamestownsun.com/news/fargo/ndsu-football-players-helped-save-family-from-burning-vehicle-in-west-fargo-crash

NDSU football players helped save family from burning vehicle in West Fargo crash
Kind of a cool story, bravo to the Bison guys

[McCowboys]

https://www.jamestownsun.com/news/fargo/ndsu-football-players-helped-save-family-from-burning-vehicle-in-west-fargo-crash

NDSU football players helped save family from burning vehicle in West Fargo crash


Kind of a cool story, bravo to the Bison guys

A great big thanks to these heroes!

[ysubigred]

I would think there has to be a sense of urgency there to take advantage of this schedule and get a seed. Winnable FBS game, 3 of their 4 toughest FCS games at home. 1 FBS loss and 1 FCS loss is very doable and a lock to get a seed, and with 2 FCS losses they'd still be in play for a seed. If they don't get a seed this year, when will they?For some reason PUNI could lose 7 of those games and get in? Of course choke and exit early [emoji28]

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[ysubigred]

https://www.jamestownsun.com/news/fargo/ndsu-football-players-helped-save-family-from-burning-vehicle-in-west-fargo-crash

NDSU football players helped save family from burning vehicle in West Fargo crash
Kind of a cool story, bravo to the Bison guysAwesome story. These kids are heroes [emoji106]

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[SDFS]

https://www.jamestownsun.com/news/fargo/ndsu-football-players-helped-save-family-from-burning-vehicle-in-west-fargo-crash

NDSU football players helped save family from burning vehicle in West Fargo crash

Kind of a cool story, bravo to the Bison guys

Nice story, job well done by those young men.

[Professor Chaos]

NDSU becomes the final MVFC school to (finally) allow beer sales at football games:
https://twitter.com/KolpackInForum/status/1552077069739253760

Not coincidentally IMO this is the first year in the last 10 that they haven't sold out season tickets.

[caribbeanhen]

NDSU becomes the final MVFC school to (finally) allow beer sales at football games:
https://twitter.com/KolpackInForum/status/1552077069739253760

Not coincidentally IMO this is the first year in the last 10 that they haven't sold out season tickets.

Yep, eventually even the ancient Romans got tired of watching the Saturday slaughters, not sure if they were allowed to drink in the Coliseum though

[Gil Dobie]

NDSU becomes the final MVFC school to (finally) allow beer sales at football games:
https://twitter.com/KolpackInForum/status/1552077069739253760

Not coincidentally IMO this is the first year in the last 10 that they haven't sold out season tickets.

This is just a temporary bandaid for lower attendance. Eventually the bandwagon fans will come up with other excuses for not going to games. I go simply to watch the Bison play.

[bonarae]

Fargodome may be expanding... xcoffeex

https://www.valleynewslive.com/2022/07/29/fargos-mayoral-budget-meeting-tells-potential-changes/

[Professor Chaos]

Fargodome may be expanding... xcoffeex

https://www.valleynewslive.com/2022/07/29/fargos-mayoral-budget-meeting-tells-potential-changes/
By expanding they're probably referring to adding convention center space attached to the main arena. There's not much they can do to add seats to the Fargodome without it getting ridiculously expensive given the benefit (would be a better ROI to just tear down and build new pretty much).

Although adding seats to the Fargodome probably isn't the priority it was 5-6 years ago. With the combination of escalating prices and other factors, demand for tickets has shrunk considerably in recent years to the point that most games don't sell out anymore.

[The Yo Show]

By expanding they're probably referring to adding convention center space attached to the main arena. There's not much they can do to add seats to the Fargodome without it getting ridiculously expensive given the benefit (would be a better ROI to just tear down and build new pretty much).

Although adding seats to the Fargodome probably isn't the priority it was 5-6 years ago. With the combination of escalating prices and other factors, demand for tickets has shrunk considerably in recent years to the point that most games don't sell out anymore.

Besides rising prices, what are the other factors that have shrunk demand? Tired of winning?

[dewey]

Besides rising prices, what are the other factors that have shrunk demand? Tired of winning?

I still think turning the West lot general admission tailgating spaces to season passes drove away the casual fan. The tailgating has not been impressive for quite a few years. NDSU went after the money and the atmosphere has suffered.

Dewey

[Professor Chaos]

Besides rising prices, what are the other factors that have shrunk demand? Tired of winning?
Yup, boredom... a perception that the outcome is a foregone conclusion and that we've seen it all already so it has lost the novelty it had in the early 2010s. I also think the in person fan base is aging - not all the senior citizen type of aging either but also younger fans who got tickets the last time they were readily available (2012-ish) have other responsibilities now like kids and the younger crowd who could take their place has gotten used to watching from home because they couldn't get tickets prior to the last couple years. Add some COVID-related hesitance to that (up to 19,000 crowded indoors) and the general decline in live attendance across the board in college football it all leads to a pretty big reduction in demand. Of course, like I said, I think the rise in prices is still the #1 reason

[Yote 53]

Yup, boredom... a perception that the outcome is a foregone conclusion and that we've seen it all already so it has lost the novelty it had in the early 2010s. I also think the in person fan base is aging - not all the senior citizen type of aging either but also younger fans who got tickets the last time they were readily available (2012-ish) have other responsibilities now like kids and the younger crowd who could take their place has gotten used to watching from home because they couldn't get tickets prior to the last couple years. Add some COVID-related hesitance to that (up to 19,000 crowded indoors) and the general decline in live attendance across the board in college football it all leads to a pretty big reduction in demand. Of course, like I said, I think the rise in prices is still the #1 reason

We'll all do our best to change this for you. Time for the rest of the conference to start beating NDSU, add a little excitement back to your games.

[Professor Chaos]

We'll all do our best to change this for you. Time for the rest of the conference to start beating NDSU, add a little excitement back to your games.
I'm good with it personally. xlolx

But the silver lining if that does happen is some spoiled/entitled Bison fans may get a little dose of reality.

[Paladin1aa]

Yup, boredom... a perception that the outcome is a foregone conclusion and that we've seen it all already so it has lost the novelty it had in the early 2010s. I also think the in person fan base is aging - not all the senior citizen type of aging either but also younger fans who got tickets the last time they were readily available (2012-ish) have other responsibilities now like kids and the younger crowd who could take their place has gotten used to watching from home because they couldn't get tickets prior to the last couple years. Add some COVID-related hesitance to that (up to 19,000 crowded indoors) and the general decline in live attendance across the board in college football it all leads to a pretty big reduction in demand. Of course, like I said, I think the rise in prices is still the #1 reason

All of the above and that applies to much of FCS. Money, changing interests and age related factors will continue to impact attendance. Hey, it could be worse. You could have an outdoor stadium, 😁

[Professor Chaos]

MFVC preseason poll and all-conference teams: https://valley-football.org/news/2022/7/31/2022-missouri-valley-football-preseason-team-poll.aspx


FIRST TEAM OFFENSE
QB Jason Shelley, Missouri State
RB Isaiah Davis, South Dakota State
RB Jaleel McLaughlin, Youngstown State
RB/AP Javon Williams, Southern Illinois
FB Hunter Luepke, North Dakota State
WR Avante Cox, Southern Illinois
WR Jaxon Janke, South Dakota State
WR Tyrone Scott, Missouri State
TE Tucker Kraft, South Dakota State
OL Landon Bebee, Missouri State
OL Garret Greenfield, South Dakota State
OL Cody Mauch, North Dakota State
OL Mason McCormick, South Dakota State
OL Alex Jensen, South Dakota

FIRST TEAM DEFENSE
DL Kevin Ellis, Missouri State
DL Eli Mostaert, North Dakota State
DL Caleb Sanders, South Dakota State
DL Reece Winkelman, South Dakota State
LB Adam Bock, South Dakota State
LB Spencer Cuvelier, UNI
LB Brock Mogensen, South Dakota
LB Zeke Vandenburgh, Illinois State
DB Montrae Braswell, Missouri State
DB PJ Jules, Southern Illinois
DB Kyriq McDonald, Missouri State
DB Benny Saap III, UNI
DB Michael Tutsie, North Dakota State

FIRST TEAM SPECIAL TEAMS
LS Dalton Godfrey, South Dakota
PK Matthew Cook, UNI
P Grant Burkett, Missouri State
RS Montrae Braswell, Missouri State
AP Carter Bell, South Dakota

SECOND TEAM OFFENSE
QB Mark Gronowski, South Dakota State
RB Kobe Johnson, North Dakota State
RB Cole Mueller, Illinois State
FB Jacob Garrett, Southern Illinois
WR Carter Bell, South Dakota
WR Bo Belquist, North Dakota
WR Dante Hendrix, Indiana State
TE Noah Gindorff, North Dakota State
OL Drew Bones, Illinois State
OL Nash Jensen, North Dakota State
OL Erik Sorensen, UNI
OL Donny Ventrelli, North Dakota
OL Jaison Williams, Youngstown State

SECOND TEAM DEFENSE
DL Braydon Deming, Illinois State
DL Nick Gaes, South Dakota
DL Caden Houghtelling, UNI
DL Devin Rice, UNI
DL Spencer Waege, North Dakota State
LB Greg Benton Jr., Youngstown State
LB Bryce Flater, UNI
LB James Kaczor, North Dakota State
LB Devon Krzanowski, North Dakota
DB Clayton Bush, Southern Illinois
DB Korby Sander, UNI
DB C.J. Siegel, North Dakota
DB Destin Talbert, North Dakota State
DB Dawson Weber, North Dakota State

SECOND TEAM SPECIAL TEAMS
LS Joey Malinowski, Illinois State
PK Jose Pizano, Missouri State
P Cade Peterson, North Dakota
RS Jayden Price, North Dakota State
AP/WR Quan Hampton, UNI

PRESEASON POLL
1. North Dakota State (39) 446
2. South Dakota State (2) 407
3. Missouri State 355
4. Southern Illinois 306
5. UNI 304
6. South Dakota 235
7. North Dakota 190
8. Illinois State 178
9. Youngstown State 132
10. Indiana State 109
11. Western Illinois 44

[caribbeanhen]

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2022-mvfc-preview-bzbz/

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

We'll all do our best to change this for you. Time for the rest of the conference to start beating NDSU, add a little excitement back to your games.


SDSU is the only team that will compete with the Bison the next few years.

Petrino has improved MSU but more than likely he'll be gone soon and the Bears will be back to their normal selves. UNI? Nope. SIU? They rely too much on FBS dropdowns and will never be a serious title contender. USD and UND? Will always be little brothers to the State schools.

The other league teams, as of now.....no way!

[caribbeanhen]

SDSU is the only team that will compete with the Bison the next few years.

Petrino has improved MSU but more than likely he'll be gone soon and the Bears will be back to their normal selves. UNI? Nope. SIU? They rely too much on FBS dropdowns and will never be a serious title contender. USD and UND? Will always be little brothers to the State schools.

The other league teams, as of now.....no way!

just say it

Paul McCartney and Wings

[ST_Lawson]

Last in the preseason ranking, nobody on either the first or second team.

Guess there's nowhere to go but up from here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[JayJ79]

NDSU went after the money and the atmosphere has suffered.
People tell me that the cost to be "competitive" at the Div. I level (even the FCS subdivision) keeps getting more and more expensive.
Schools have to find some way to raise those funds. Better to get it from the fanbase than to scam it from the students via high "activity fees"

[caribbeanhen]

I still think turning the West lot general admission tailgating spaces to season passes drove away the casual fan. The tailgating has not been impressive for quite a few years. NDSU went after the money and the atmosphere has suffered.

Dewey

Very similar as to what happened at Delaware long before you guys showed up in 2019

[clenz]

Very similar as to what happened at Delaware long before you guys showed up in 2019
That and the UD fan base was an average age of 67 before NDSU showed up.

[clenz]

UNI sucks. 3 wins, at best, if we catch every break.

[caribbeanhen]

That and the UD fan base was an average age of 67 before NDSU showed up.

That didn’t help but that old age fan problem is widespread now

[Professor Chaos]

Just have to show Twitch streams on the big screens in between plays and have random fans do Tik Tok challenges on the field during time outs and the kids would show up...

[POD Knows]

SDSU is the only team that will compete with the Bison the next few years.

Petrino has improved MSU but more than likely he'll be gone soon and the Bears will be back to their normal selves. UNI? Nope. SIU? They rely too much on FBS dropdowns and will never be a serious title contender. USD and UND? Will always be little brothers to the State schools.

The other league teams, as of now.....no way!
SDSU has all Americans at every skill position on offense. This is probably the best SDSU team that they have ever fielded on both sides of the ball. One question is how the injury to their QB will affect his mobility because he is/was very mobile and a good runner. I think the differences between the talent for SDSU and NDSU is razor thin. The intangibles favor NDSU.

[Redbird 4th & short]

MFVC preseason poll and all-conference teams: https://valley-football.org/news/2022/7/31/2022-missouri-valley-football-preseason-team-poll.aspx


PRESEASON POLL
1. North Dakota State (39) 446
2. South Dakota State (2) 407
3. Missouri State 355
4. Southern Illinois 306
5. UNI 304
6. South Dakota 235
7. North Dakota 190
8. Illinois State 178
9. Youngstown State 132
10. Indiana State 109
11. Western Illinois 44

8th is very fair pick for my ISUr for outsiders not paying attention closely - so we deserve 8th. But I can honestly see 6th without even having to tap the Redbird koolaid keg this fall. So my stretch pick is 4th or 5th, with 4th probably causing a slight tear .. so going with 5th and a playoff bid. And with SIU and MoST now regularly in the top 10 picture, this is shaping up to be a 6 bid season for the MVFC. USD schedule is brutal, possibly one of the toughest ever .. may literally have 6 or 7 quarterfinalists on their schedule, plus a good FBS and just 1 patsy, Cal Poly (2-9).

Here is my predicted finish, with top 6 getting bids: SDSU, NDSU, MoST/SIU, UNI/ISUr, UND/USD, ISUb/YSU/WIU

[MR. CHICKEN]

UNI sucks. 3 wins, at best, if we catch every break.

....DID YA VOTE IN TOP 25 POLL?....YA SEEM TA HAVE TIME....FO' DIS DRIVEL.........AWQ!

[caribbeanhen]

SDSU has all Americans at every skill position on offense. This is probably the best SDSU team that they have ever fielded on both sides of the ball. One question is how the injury to their QB will affect his mobility because he is/was very mobile and a good runner. I think the differences between the talent for SDSU and NDSU is razor thin. The intangibles favor NDSU.

those Janke (sic?) Twins are good but slightly overrated in my book ... not as overrated as the Big Sky though

[F'N Hawks]

those Janke (sic?) Twins are good but slightly overrated in my book ... not as overrated as the Big Sky though

They are pretty good. Bigger kids but have speed too.

[clenz]

....DID YA VOTE IN TOP 25 POLL?....YA SEEM TA HAVE TIME....FO' DIS DRIVEL.........AWQ!
Do I have time for it? Can you tell me where that time is? I'd love to know where it is and to use it.

Including the 3 posts in this thread from the last day or so I have 8 posts in the last 96 days - I bet I'm less than 30 since the start of the year.

I've averaged 50+ hours per week at work the last 6 months. It's not stopping anytime soon, in fact our busiest season starts in September/October and goes until the end of Feb.

Having time to make a post with 11 words in it =/= time to properly research and vote in the poll.

[POD Knows]

those Janke (sic?) Twins are good but slightly overrated in my book ... not as overrated as the Big Sky thoughDisagree, the only team in the CAA that has ever given the Bison a scare is JMU and they are gone. Right now, as we speak, the BSC is head and shoulders above the CAA and it isn't even close.

With respect to the Janke's, they are pretty ****ing good, they perform well against NDSU and that is how I grade talent. xthumbsupx

[caribbeanhen]

Disagree, the only team in the CAA that has ever given the Bison a scare is JMU and they are gone. Right now, as we speak, the BSC is head and shoulders above the CAA and it isn't even close.

With respect to the Janke's, they are pretty ****ing good, they perform well against NDSU and that is how I grade talent. xthumbsupx

Nope, Every year we hear Sacramento state is the greatest thing since scrapple and every year they fall flat on their face and they look bad doing it

[POD Knows]

Nope, Every year we hear Sacramento state is the greatest thing since scrapple and every year they fall flat on their face and they look bad doing it
Agree but the Griz beat the Bison in recent memory and EWU played them tough as well. Davis also played us tough in our own building.

[ysubigred]

UNI sucks. 3 wins, at best, if we catch every break.Still make the playoffs then choke [emoji1787]

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[caribbeanhen]

Agree but the Griz beat the Bison in recent memory and EWU played them tough as well. Davis also played us tough in our own building.

recent memory? Montana beat you in 2014 right?

You Bison fans can remember every one of them losses in the past 12 years just like me remembering all the times I got lucky in the same time span ... few and far between

[POD Knows]

recent memory? Montana beat you in 2014 right?

You Bison fans can remember every one of them losses in the past 12 years just like me remembering all the times I got lucky in the same time span ... few and far between
😀. That loss and then shortly there after we lost to USD in our own building. Brutal. Surreal.

[POD Knows]

recent memory? Montana beat you in 2014 right?

You Bison fans can remember every one of them losses in the past 12 years just like me remembering all the times I got lucky in the same time span ... few and far betweenWe lost to Montana in 2015 and to USD early that season, we were 4-2 for a while, panic was setting in, Wentz was hurt, had to use a Freshman QB, the walls were falling, the world corrected itself and the Mighty Bison won another natty over the hopelessly outmanned JSU Cocks

[clenz]

Still make the playoffs then choke [emoji1787]

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Still wouldn't lose to YSU...or a ****ing Pioneer team.

[caribbeanhen]

recent memory? Montana beat you in 2014 right?

You Bison fans can remember every one of them losses in the past 12 years just like me remembering all the times I got lucky in the same time span ... few and far between

I see you prohibitioned Montana in the first round of the playoffs that year

The Massey site is pretty good for old seasons and scores

https://masseyratings.com/cf2015/5545

[Professor Chaos]

NDSU hires former SHSU broadcaster Rob Hipp as their new voice for football and men's basketball along with being program director for Bison 1660 AM radio out of Fargo: https://gobison.com/news/2022/8/5/general-rob-hipp-named-voice-of-the-bison-for-ndsu-football-mens-basketball.aspx

Their previous play-by-play guy and program director Jeff Culhane was hired away by Florida State last month. Any Bearkat fans out there with thoughts on Hipp???

[Redbird 4th & short]

NDSU hires former SHSU broadcaster Rob Hipp as their new voice for football and men's basketball along with being program director for Bison 1660 AM radio out of Fargo: https://gobison.com/news/2022/8/5/general-rob-hipp-named-voice-of-the-bison-for-ndsu-football-mens-basketball.aspx

Their previous play-by-play guy and program director Jeff Culhane was hired away by Florida State last month. Any Bearkat fans out there with thoughts on Hipp???

if you cant beat em .... er .. if you can't not get blown out by em .. join em.

[Redbird 4th & short]

[QUOTE=Redbird 4th & short;3063464]Sames over at ISUr ... well, sort of, kind of, ... uh ... not really.

Issue is not money, that we already have ... Supply chain ? Incompetence ? Global warming ? I dunno. Bu tthe good news is we have a construction fence built to keep people safe around the are that has made zero progress .. other than the 1' x 8' ceremonial ground breaking .. aka, about the same size as the raised garden bed on my patio for growing basil, cilantro, chives, and a cherry tomato plant.

Goal is to have it ready for Jan 2023 spring ball.

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[ysubigred]

Still wouldn't lose to YSU...or a ****ing Pioneer team.Funny,, I always said UNI could put the band on the field and squeeze out a W against the mighty Guins

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[mmiller_34]

SDSU has all Americans at every skill position on offense. This is probably the best SDSU team that they have ever fielded on both sides of the ball. One question is how the injury to their QB will affect his mobility because he is/was very mobile and a good runner. I think the differences between the talent for SDSU and NDSU is razor thin. The intangibles favor NDSU.

I agree that the intangibles favor us. The bunnies may challenge us in a few areas, but I honestly don’t see anyone in this new landscape FCS challenging us for a championship.

#OnBizon

[POD Knows]

I agree that the intangibles favor us. The bunnies may challenge us in a few areas, but I honestly don’t see anyone in this new landscape FCS challenging us for a championship.

#OnBizon
Hey. I got a Bizon season ticket for sale, Bison sideline by the end zone. $50 per game. We could use more dedicated fans like you. 😎

[Redbird 4th & short]

[QUOTE=Redbird 4th & short;3063464]Sames over at ISUr ... well, sort of, kind of, ... uh ... not really.

Issue is not money, that we already have ... Supply chain ? Incompetence ? Global warming ? I dunno. Bu tthe good news is we have a construction fence built to keep people safe around the are that has made zero progress .. other than the 1' x 8' ceremonial ground breaking .. aka, about the same size as the raised garden bed on my patio for growing basil, cilantro, chives, and a cherry tomato plant.

Goal is to have it ready for Jan 2023 spring ball.

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Thanks, my bad.

[The Yo Show]

UNI sucks. 3 wins, at best, if we catch every break.

You really see only 3 wins for this UNI team?

[The Yo Show]

I see at MINIMUM 3. UNI should beat: Utah Tech, WIU and Indiana State at a minimum. I can't imagine they don't beat Sac State either which gets you to 4. And being honest, you don't see them at least winning one or two more out of ND, SD and Illinois State?

[clenz]

I see at MINIMUM 3. UNI should beat: Utah Tech, WIU and Indiana State at a minimum. I can't imagine they don't beat Sac State either which gets you to 4. And being honest, you don't see them at least winning one or two more out of ND, SD and Illinois State?Honestly, I think there is a very strong possibility of 9. It's the best" schedule UNI has had in well over a decade. No NDSU, zero road games between Sept 11th and Oct 29th. Sac State, ISUr, MSU, SDSU all at home.

@ Air Force - likely loss but wouldn't shock me to win that one. If we weren't replacing Brinkman and Butcher at DT against that kind of offense I'd go 60/40 us, but first name new offense and without those two.
@ UND - W 80/20 lean
vs Sac State - W 80/20 lean
@ WIU - W 99/1 lean
ISUB - W 95/5 lean
ISUR - W 85/15 lean
UTT - W 99/1 lean
MSU - W 60/40 lean
@SIU - W - 60/40 lean to UNI
SDSU - toss up - 49/51 lean
@ USD - sadly toss up. USD/UNI is always silly, it's in Vermillion a week after SDSU. I'd go 55/45 lean

Farley has finally given up on the offense. The OC he brought in, the offense going with it, the fact he hasn't shut it down like he did Joe Davis in 2016, etc. I get why people doubt UNI, but I can make a very strong case for 9-2 based on player we have on the roster and the new offense being a game changer.

I also understand UNI is UNI and won't be shocked to see 7-4, especially if the offense takes time to get it's legs going.

But also, I play a character here. I see the fact everyone else nationally, here and social media, goes "UNI sucks. They don't get people on all conference teams, all american teams, they have no talent, they lost close games, their offense was bad in the past, etc." and I just lean into it and go "Yeah, **** it. UNI sucks".

[SDFS]

I see 7-4 for UNI. If the offense is rolling 8-3 or better could be possible. How is the O-Line this year?

[clenz]

I see 7-4 for UNI. If the offense is rolling 8-3 or better could be possible. How is the O-Line this year?
Should be improved a fair amount

I know that sounds hilariously dumb after losing a first rounder this past year and a 3rd rounder the year before who started basically the entire season in Buffalo last year.

But, Penning the younger will move from LG to LT and he is seen as every bit that his brother is. We also, in theory, shouldn't have musical chairs on the right side like we did last year

LT: 6'6 340 Penning, the younger - sophomore
LG: 6'4 335 Nick Ellis - Grad year - missed the 2021 spring and fall due to injury and recovery but was an All Conference starting every game in 2019. Pre season All Conference according to Phil Steele
C: 6'5 320 Eirk Sorensen - rSr - Phil Steele preseason all conference team, phil stelle all conference team last year, started every game.
RG: 6'6 330 Justin Peine - r Sr - Phil Steele preseason all conference, 6 starts at RG last year, 1 at RT. Phil Steele all conference last year
RT: 6'5 310 Tristan Roper - rSo - preseason all conference per phil steele despite just 4 start last years between RG and RT. Has been the rotation guy in the 2021 spring and fall. In the spring played every game with 4 starts at guard. Has played every position except C. He was "the crown jewel" of that recruiting class, which is probably why he managed a Steele Preseason team despite not a ton of time. Active P5 and NDSU offers out of HS. UNI snagged him. Got stuck behind Brown and Penning on the left - moving to the right to anchor that side should be good for him.

The change in offense should also make a massive difference. Gone are the super slow, play action every play, 3 reads 15-20 yards plus down field. This new offense is what EWU runs. Play fast, beat the hell out of the guy across from you, get the ball out fast. That should make a massive difference for the OL compared to having to block for 5+ on every play.

[The Yo Show]

Honestly, I think there is a very strong possibility of 9. It's the best" schedule UNI has had in well over a decade. No NDSU, zero road games between Sept 11th and Oct 29th. Sac State, ISUr, MSU, SDSU all at home.

@ Air Force - likely loss but wouldn't shock me to win that one. If we weren't replacing Brinkman and Butcher at DT against that kind of offense I'd go 60/40 us, but first name new offense and without those two.
@ UND - W 80/20 lean
vs Sac State - W 80/20 lean
@ WIU - W 99/1 lean
ISUB - W 95/5 lean
ISUR - W 85/15 lean
UTT - W 99/1 lean
MSU - W 60/40 lean
@SIU - W - 60/40 lean to UNI
SDSU - toss up - 49/51 lean
@ USD - sadly toss up. USD/UNI is always silly, it's in Vermillion a week after SDSU. I'd go 55/45 lean

Farley has finally given up on the offense. The OC he brought in, the offense going with it, the fact he hasn't shut it down like he did Joe Davis in 2016, etc. I get why people doubt UNI, but I can make a very strong case for 9-2 based on player we have on the roster and the new offense being a game changer.

I also understand UNI is UNI and won't be shocked to see 7-4, especially if the offense takes time to get it's legs going.

But also, I play a character here. I see the fact everyone else nationally, here and social media, goes "UNI sucks. They don't get people on all conference teams, all american teams, they have no talent, they lost close games, their offense was bad in the past, etc." and I just lean into it and go "Yeah, **** it. UNI sucks".

Yeah I am expecting UNI to be good. I get you were just joking then, but I was thinking you were serious, and it made no sense to me. I fully believe they will make the playoffs.

[Paladin1aa]

Yeah I am expecting UNI to be good. I get you were just joking then, but I was thinking you were serious, and it made no sense to me. I fully believe they will make the playoffs.

I believe they will make the playoffs too. Of course, playoffs are not UNIs cup of tea. Exit, stage right.

[jacksfan29!]

just say it

Paul McCartney and Wings

Hi, Hi, Hi

[SDFS]

Should be improved a fair amount

I know that sounds hilariously dumb after losing a first rounder this past year and a 3rd rounder the year before who started basically the entire season in Buffalo last year.

But, Penning the younger will move from LG to LT and he is seen as every bit that his brother is. We also, in theory, shouldn't have musical chairs on the right side like we did last year

LT: 6'6 340 Penning, the younger - sophomore
LG: 6'4 335 Nick Ellis - Grad year - missed the 2021 spring and fall due to injury and recovery but was an All Conference starting every game in 2019. Pre season All Conference according to Phil Steele
C: 6'5 320 Eirk Sorensen - rSr - Phil Steele preseason all conference team, phil stelle all conference team last year, started every game.
RG: 6'6 330 Justin Peine - r Sr - Phil Steele preseason all conference, 6 starts at RG last year, 1 at RT. Phil Steele all conference last year
RT: 6'5 310 Tristan Roper - rSo - preseason all conference per phil steele despite just 4 start last years between RG and RT. Has been the rotation guy in the 2021 spring and fall. In the spring played every game with 4 starts at guard. Has played every position except C. He was "the crown jewel" of that recruiting class, which is probably why he managed a Steele Preseason team despite not a ton of time. Active P5 and NDSU offers out of HS. UNI snagged him. Got stuck behind Brown and Penning on the left - moving to the right to anchor that side should be good for him.

The change in offense should also make a massive difference. Gone are the super slow, play action every play, 3 reads 15-20 yards plus down field. This new offense is what EWU runs. Play fast, beat the hell out of the guy across from you, get the ball out fast. That should make a massive difference for the OL compared to having to block for 5+ on every play.

Thanks for the scouting report.. First game up in GF will be interesting. UND's undersized D could be in for a Bison like pounding with that size up front.

[clenz]

Thanks for the scouting report.. First game up in GF will be interesting. UND's undersized D could be in for a Bison like pounding with that size up front.
I have no idea what to expect from the the offense at UNI.

We've heard the whole "new offense, new system new UNI" bull**** before. I completely understand those outside of UNI not believing it, because at this point most around UNI don't believe it beacuse it's the same **** every year no matter what we were told.

The difference this year is Farley is actually talking about how different the offense looks and said in a an interview he now understands his offense actually has to score points to win. Believe it or not, for 20 years Farley has believed he could win games 3-0.

All the other OC's we've brought in before that were going to change things were either young and not really proven at a high level, or were guys Farley didn't really know/trust. That's not the case with Reeder. Farley coached against Reeder and his EWU offenses. A former UNI WR coach went to coach WR at EWU under Reeder - and then OC when Reeder left. That WR coach called Farley and Reeder and said "You two need to work together". Farley brought him in after that. Reeder Reeder comes from Utah State. Before that he had North Texas's offense 27th in the nation in scoring and 15th per game in passing yards per game. At EWU he was part of their title game team that averaged 530 ypg, 43 ppg. The year before at EWU he had them at 321 yard passing per game, 477 yards per game, and 35 points per game. Before EWU he was at Oklahoma State where they were top 10 in the FBS in passing yards per game at 324 per game and 17th in scoring at 38 per game

He runs a COMPLETELY different offense than anything UNI has ever done. The words we've heard out of spring ball, summer work outs, and early camp is it's all about tempo. Get the ball and move. Get the ball out of the QBs hands and into the skill guys. UNI has always been very slow developing plays. There's a reason UNI brought in every single WR/RB they could get their hands on since the end of last season.

Big ass OL that hopefully get to use that size to beat someone's ass rather than being told their first move to set back while the backfield gives a fake read option look no one believes that takes 3 seconds so by the time the QB is making reads it's already the standard time OL typically block.

If the offense isn't clicking early who knows what happens. Maybe Farley panics and rip cords it, yet again. If that offense clicks early, and the defense UNI is know for, can fly around the field without having to try to hold teams to 12 points to win and not be on the field for 39 minutes per game? It could be a very different season in Cedar Falls.

[MR. CHICKEN]

I have no idea what to expect from the the offense at UNI.

We've heard the whole "new offense, new system new UNI" bull**** before. I completely understand those outside of UNI not believing it, because at this point most around UNI don't believe it beacuse it's the same **** every year no matter what we were told.

The difference this year is Farley is actually talking about how different the offense looks and said in a an interview he now understands his offense actually has to score points to win. Believe it or not, for 20 years Farley has believed he could win games 3-0.

All the other OC's we've brought in before that were going to change things were either young and not really proven at a high level, or were guys Farley didn't really know/trust. That's not the case with Reeder. Farley coached against Reeder and his EWU offenses. A former UNI WR coach went to coach WR at EWU under Reeder - and then OC when Reeder left. That WR coach called Farley and Reeder and said "You two need to work together". Farley brought him in after that. Reeder Reeder comes from Utah State. Before that he had North Texas's offense 27th in the nation in scoring and 15th per game in passing yards per game. At EWU he was part of their title game team that averaged 530 ypg, 43 ppg. The year before at EWU he had them at 321 yard passing per game, 477 yards per game, and 35 points per game. Before EWU he was at Oklahoma State where they were top 10 in the FBS in passing yards per game at 324 per game and 17th in scoring at 38 per game

He runs a COMPLETELY different offense than anything UNI has ever done. The words we've heard out of spring ball, summer work outs, and early camp is it's all about tempo. Get the ball and move. Get the ball out of the QBs hands and into the skill guys. UNI has always been very slow developing plays. There's a reason UNI brought in every single WR/RB they could get their hands on since the end of last season.

Big ass OL that hopefully get to use that size to beat someone's ass rather than being told their first move to set back while the backfield gives a fake read option look no one believes that takes 3 seconds so by the time the QB is making reads it's already the standard time OL typically block.

If the offense isn't clicking early who knows what happens. Maybe Farley panics and rip cords it, yet again. If that offense clicks early, and the defense UNI is know for, can fly around the field without having to try to hold teams to 12 points to win and not be on the field for 39 minutes per game? It could be a very different season in Cedar Falls.


...NOW DAT'S UH GOOD POST.......EXPLAININ' NEW OFFENSE ETC.......AH APPRECIATE DAT INFO.......WHIFF AN' E. WASH OFFENSE...AN' YER USUAL TOUGH D.....COOD BE DEADLY.....TA VALLEY......AWK!

[SDFS]

I have no idea what to expect from the the offense at UNI.

We've heard the whole "new offense, new system new UNI" bull**** before. I completely understand those outside of UNI not believing it, because at this point most around UNI don't believe it beacuse it's the same **** every year no matter what we were told.

The difference this year is Farley is actually talking about how different the offense looks and said in a an interview he now understands his offense actually has to score points to win. Believe it or not, for 20 years Farley has believed he could win games 3-0.

All the other OC's we've brought in before that were going to change things were either young and not really proven at a high level, or were guys Farley didn't really know/trust. That's not the case with Reeder. Farley coached against Reeder and his EWU offenses. A former UNI WR coach went to coach WR at EWU under Reeder - and then OC when Reeder left. That WR coach called Farley and Reeder and said "You two need to work together". Farley brought him in after that. Reeder Reeder comes from Utah State. Before that he had North Texas's offense 27th in the nation in scoring and 15th per game in passing yards per game. At EWU he was part of their title game team that averaged 530 ypg, 43 ppg. The year before at EWU he had them at 321 yard passing per game, 477 yards per game, and 35 points per game. Before EWU he was at Oklahoma State where they were top 10 in the FBS in passing yards per game at 324 per game and 17th in scoring at 38 per game

He runs a COMPLETELY different offense than anything UNI has ever done. The words we've heard out of spring ball, summer work outs, and early camp is it's all about tempo. Get the ball and move. Get the ball out of the QBs hands and into the skill guys. UNI has always been very slow developing plays. There's a reason UNI brought in every single WR/RB they could get their hands on since the end of last season.

Big ass OL that hopefully get to use that size to beat someone's ass rather than being told their first move to set back while the backfield gives a fake read option look no one believes that takes 3 seconds so by the time the QB is making reads it's already the standard time OL typically block.

If the offense isn't clicking early who knows what happens. Maybe Farley panics and rip cords it, yet again. If that offense clicks early, and the defense UNI is know for, can fly around the field without having to try to hold teams to 12 points to win and not be on the field for 39 minutes per game? It could be a very different season in Cedar Falls.

Well, you are in luck EWU owned UND in the Big Sky. UND's D lost 2 very good corners to the transfer portal that they were expecting to start. The secondary will be very new this year. But, I still expect UND to bounce back after last year. They had a number of very close games on the road last year. They gave away wins to both SIU and MSU on road. I am looking forward to the match-up. The results will say a lot about both teams.

[nodak651]

I just realized that this UND/UNI game is ESPN's MVFC "game of the week". As such, the MVFC/ESPN contract prevents the home team (UND) from televising the game whatsoever? Did the MVFC really sign a contract that literally removes games from TV in favor of a streaming platform, a worse production, and worse broadcast crew? Please say the MVFC got significant $$$ in return...

[clenz]

I just realized that this UND/UNI game is ESPN's MVFC "game of the week". As such, the MVFC/ESPN contract prevents the home team (UND) from televising the game whatsoever? Did the MVFC really sign a contract that literally removes games from TV in favor of a streaming platform, a worse production, and worse broadcast crew? Please say the MVFC got significant $$$ in return...
It's been that way for about a decade now. It's part of a TV deal with Comcast where they produce one game a week. It's always the worst produced and called game of the week - excluding what WIU puts out there.

I don't know what the money for it was, but it was put in place to keep local/regional TV partners happy. They get one game a week

[POD Knows]

It sounds like NDSUs top two RB’s are possibly injured, neither Luepke or Williams have been at practice this camp. Interesting.

[nodak651]

It's been that way for about a decade now. It's part of a TV deal with Comcast where they produce one game a week. It's always the worst produced and called game of the week - excluding what WIU puts out there.

I don't know what the money for it was, but it was put in place to keep local/regional TV partners happy. They get one game a week

Thanks for the info.

[Professor Chaos]

Could be worse... it could be on Flosports.

[SDFS]

It sounds like NDSUs top two RB’s are possibly injured, neither Luepke or Williams have been at practice this camp. Interesting.

Well, if you guys are short on RB's let me know, I will suit up for you guys. I am old but on the brightside I am super slow too. Seriously, I could get a 100 yards running behind NDSU's o-line. I am not sure this is the emergency you think it is.

[Professor Chaos]

Well, if you guys are short on RB's let me know, I will suit up for you guys. I am old but on the brightside I am super slow too. Seriously, I could get a 100 yards running behind NDSU's o-line. I am not sure this is the emergency you think it is.
Agreed, although I don't think POD gave the impression it was a dire situation. NDSU has so many capable ball carriers it was almost a problem last year in that no one could get into a rhythm with everyone getting only 5-10 carries a game.

[POD Knows]

Agreed, although I don't think POD gave the impression it was a dire situation. NDSU has so many capable ball carriers it was almost a problem last year in that no one could get into a rhythm with everyone getting only 5-10 carries a game.The coaching staff has indicated that Williams' issues are lower body injury related, pretty secretive on the Luepke deal.
When and if you lose your #1 and #2 back, i don't care how deep you think you are, it is going to be an issue but it is pretty early to tell right now. If both of those guys are gone, this will be a very average team offensively

[Sioux24/7]

Well, you are in luck EWU owned UND in the Big Sky. UND's D lost 2 very good corners to the transfer portal that they were expecting to start. The secondary will be very new this year. But, I still expect UND to bounce back after last year. They had a number of very close games on the road last year. They gave away wins to both SIU and MSU on road. I am looking forward to the match-up. The results will say a lot about both teams.

Yeah losing both Nelson and Robertson hurts, not to mention safety is pretty inexperienced. I do expect us to bounce back a bit, lost a lot of close games last year.

[Professor Chaos]

The coaching staff has indicated that Williams' issues are lower body injury related, pretty secretive on the Luepke deal.
When and if you lose your #1 and #2 back, i don't care how deep you think you are, it is going to be an issue but it is pretty early to tell right now. If both of those guys are gone, this will be a very average team offensively
I think they'd be just fine. That o-line should be beastly this year - they've got plenty of guys to tote it with Gonnella, Johnson, Bussey, Marshall, and even Cole Payton.

[caribbeanhen]

I think they'd be just fine. That o-line should be beastly this year - they've got plenty of guys to tote it with Gonnella, Johnson, Bussey, Marshall, and even Cole Payton.

Beastly this year? Like they weren’t beastly before....

[Professor Chaos]

Beastly this year? Like they weren’t beastly before....
They struggled in spring '21 but those struggles are paying dividends now since they have everyone back from the o-line group in spring and fall of '21 except one guy (which is a big loss in current Cincinnati Bengal Cordell Volson) but there are 9 juniors and seniors on their 2-deep o-line and all but 1 have contributed over the last two seasons so they should be as good as a group this year as they've ever been.

[bonarae]

Has anyone missed out on the rumors that NDSU is planning to host an HBCU in the Fargodome in the 2024 regular season? xchinscratchx

[Professor Chaos]

Has anyone missed out on the rumors that NDSU is planning to host an HBCU in the Fargodome in the 2024 regular season? xchinscratchx
https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/ndsu-in-talks-for-potential-football-game-in-nashville-against-tennessee-state

Home/home with Tennessee St - Fargo in 2024 and Nashville with 2025. I'd assume since they're talking about it in the media it's an all but done deal.

Also interesting to see NDSU's deputy AD who does football scheduling call out some specific FBS schools by name (South Carolina and Utah) insinuating that they want nothing to do with a game with NDSU. Seems like in the past they've complained about FBS schools dodging them but stopped short of mentioning them by name.

[F'N Hawks]

https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/ndsu-in-talks-for-potential-football-game-in-nashville-against-tennessee-state

Home/home with Tennessee St - Fargo in 2024 and Nashville with 2025. I'd assume since they're talking about it in the media it's an all but done deal.

Also interesting to see NDSU's deputy AD who does football scheduling call out some specific FBS schools by name (South Carolina and Utah) insinuating that they want nothing to do with a game with NDSU. Seems like in the past they've complained about FBS schools dodging them but stopped short of mentioning them by name.

Why would South Carolina want to play them? There are a whole bunch of schools to choose from down there. Weird flex

[caribbeanhen]

https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/ndsu-in-talks-for-potential-football-game-in-nashville-against-tennessee-state

Home/home with Tennessee St - Fargo in 2024 and Nashville with 2025. I'd assume since they're talking about it in the media it's an all but done deal.

Also interesting to see NDSU's deputy AD who does football scheduling call out some specific FBS schools by name (South Carolina and Utah) insinuating that they want nothing to do with a game with NDSU. Seems like in the past they've complained about FBS schools dodging them but stopped short of mentioning them by name.

Yuck!

Where is Jackson State hiding?

[bonarae]

Yuck!

Where is Jackson State hiding?

Same with me xsighx

[Redbird 4th & short]

https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/ndsu-in-talks-for-potential-football-game-in-nashville-against-tennessee-state

Home/home with Tennessee St - Fargo in 2024 and Nashville with 2025. I'd assume since they're talking about it in the media it's an all but done deal.

Also interesting to see NDSU's deputy AD who does football scheduling call out some specific FBS schools by name (South Carolina and Utah) insinuating that they want nothing to do with a game with NDSU. Seems like in the past they've complained about FBS schools dodging them but stopped short of mentioning them by name.
given how long its been since you got an FBS to play you ... whats the harm in calling them out. They gonna blackball with you no more games ?

Spade is a spade.

[POD Knows]

Yuck!

Where is Jackson State hiding?
Zero desire to have a home and home with JSU. They can come to Fargo and get a check. This game with Tennessee State, outside of the destination, is a joke. I have been to Nashville multiple times and it is a cool place and a good number of Bison fans would go for the novelty of it maybe.

[mvfcfan]

I was looking at our schedule and apparently we don't play SIU this season, which I think is pretty ridiculous. You would think that games against your regular conference opponents, particularly ones in a neighboring state, would be guaranteed, but I guess not. If we weren't playing Missouri State or Northern Iowa I wouldn't care as much, but not getting to play SIU or Illinois State (using ILSU as an example) or even Murray State starting next year makes zero sense. It would be like a Dakota school not playing another Dakota school.