2021 Fall National Championship: #2 North Dakota State vs #8 Montana State

[Professor Chaos]

This is it for all the marbles! The Bison are looking for their 9th national title in the last 11 years and Bobcats are looking for their first in 37 years. It'll be a long 3 week wait. Kickoff is on Saturday 1/8 at 11AM CT and the game will be televised on ESPN2.

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[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Montana State's on a helluva roll right now. Their defense is excellent! They definitely have the players on that side of the ball to contain NDSU.

I just don't see how the Bobcat offense as presently constructed does enough to beat NDSU. The Bison are not going to lose a game because the QB ran around and hit on 50/50 balls. Montana State will have to become a little more diverse in order to have a chance...

First thought is NDSU 27-13

[WeAreThePride]

Oh she's gonna be a good one.

Go BISON!

[Drblankstare]

Couple really good defenses. Should be a fun one

[WeAreThePride]

We'll need this three weeks to get healthy. With Watson back, I think we roll to yet another trophy hoisting ceremony. We will NEED a passing game to beat MSU. Their D line are savages.

[Bison56]

This will be a 4 point game, a real nail biter.

[uofmman1122]

This is literally the worst possible scenario.

:pumpuke::pumpuke::pumpuke::pumpuke:

[JacksFan40]

Bison defense should contain Tommy, but the MSU defense should contain the NDSU offense. Expect this game to come down to one or two big plays. I got NDSU 17-14.

[Drblankstare]

NDSU’s offense is ok, can be sharp at times but gets clunky for long stretches. Mont St O is rolling on long balls and QB runs. It’s kinda crazy how well it’s worked in the playoffs

[POD Knows]

The legend of Touchdown Tommy continues. MSU 21. NDSU 17. #BOOKIT

[Chalupa Batman]

Hunter Luepke and Troy Anderson are going to have some epic collisions!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Montana State's on a helluva roll right now. Their defense is excellent! They definitely have the players on that side of the ball to contain NDSU.

I just don't see how the Bobcat offense as presently constructed does enough to beat NDSU. The Bison are not going to lose a game because the QB ran around and hit on 50/50 balls. Montana State will have to become a little more diverse in order to have a chance...

First thought is NDSU 27-13


I agree that 50/50 balls and QB running is not going to beat NDSU.

This is a good matchup for NDSU IMO. Looking forward to a good game.

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Hunter Luepke and Troy Anderson are going to have some epic collisions!


Luepke is perfect to go against this defense.

[Professor Chaos]

Will be interesting to see what the crowd mix is... I think NDSU fans could be outnumbered in Frisco for the first time since their first natty game against SHSU. I don't think Bison fans bought up tickets in droves in August at the same rate we have in the past. I'm sure both schools will have more than enough demand for their allotments but I'd expect a good showing in the sections outside the allotments from Montana State.

On another note someone on Bisonville last week mentioned that it will be a Southland Conference officiating crew in this game.

[uofmman1122]

I agree that 50/50 balls and QB running is not going to beat NDSU.

This is a good matchup for NDSU IMO. Looking forward to a good game.

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Luepke is perfect to go against this defense.
Well, I thought the same about SDSU's defense before the game. "No way they give up those 50-50 balls like SHSU did", and yet...lol

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Well, I thought the same about SDSU's defense before the game. "No way they give up those 50-50 balls like SHSU did", and yet...lol


NDSU just held JMU to their lowest yards output and points output for the season, I think they will have a good gameplan for a running QB and 50/50 balls.....xnodx

[Chalupa Batman]

Well, I thought the same about SDSU's defense before the game. "No way they give up those 50-50 balls like SHSU did", and yet...lol

They've been getting killed on those balls all year long. I thought they might do a little better than they did but I wasn't surprised they got beat a bunch on them.

[ysubigred]

Golden Buf's end TD Tom's beginners luck..

24 - 13

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[SeattleCat]

So proud of our team! So proud of Tommy! Kid is a winner and he's not gonna let this team lose! Go Cats!

[uofmman1122]

NDSU just held JMU to their lowest yards output and points output for the season, I think they will have a good gameplan for a running QB and 50/50 balls.....xnodx
Trust me, I agree with you, but this bobcat team keeps proving everyone wrong to my absolute dismay. xlolx

[TheKingpin28]

Excited to see this game. Ready to see Jasir spy Tommy all game and see Luepke and Tamerick play smashmouth football against Troy Andersen and Co.

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[Christiank22]

Will be interesting to see what the crowd mix is... I think NDSU fans could be outnumbered in Frisco for the first time since their first natty game against SHSU. I don't think Bison fans bought up tickets in droves in August at the same rate we have in the past. I'm sure both schools will have more than enough demand for their allotments but I'd expect a good showing in the sections outside the allotments from Montana State.

On another note someone on Bisonville last week mentioned that it will be a Southland Conference officiating crew in this game.

Didn’t NDSU sell out all the tickets last night…?

[Bisonoline]

Didn’t NDSU sell out all the tickets last night…?

No 16,550

[Gil Dobie]

Tickets $500 on vividseats.

[Christiank22]

No 16,550

No hahaha the natty tickets. Pretty sure they’re all second hand right now

[WeAreThePride]

Tickets $500 on vividseats.
Holy balls.

[Professor Chaos]

Didn’t NDSU sell out all the tickets last night…?
Yeah, looks that way. Although it also could've been Montana St/SDSU fans as well thinking that if their team doesn't make it they should be able to sell them to Bison fans. I get the feeling Bobcat fans will be more enthusiastic about tickets on the secondary market than Bison fans will be. Maybe NDSU still pulls the slight majority but I think it would be 60/40 at most.

[Houndawg]

Bison defense should contain Tommy, but the MSU defense should contain the NDSU offense. Expect this game to come down to one or two big plays. I got NDSU 17-14.

Special teams. xthumbsupx

I'm picking the upset for no good reason. I sense a disturbance in The Force

[GoCatsGo84]

1. This game should be awesome
2. I believe it’s the best two teams in the FCS… NDSU per usual and MSU is red hot
3. this MSU defense is tough and they want you to know that. Will give the NDSU offense fits. same with the NDSU defense.
4. God bless Texas, can’t wait to get some BBQ!

[TennBison]

NDSU just held JMU to their lowest yards output and points output for the season, I think they will have a good gameplan for a running QB and 50/50 balls.....xnodx
I think the same thing just happened to SDSU.

[TennBison]

Trust me, I agree with you, but this bobcat team keeps proving everyone wrong to my absolute dismay. xlolx
I thought their coach said he believed in them, so that right there proves your statement to be wrong.

[JSUSoutherner]

Tickets $500 on vividseats.
Glad I only paid $85 on Monday.

[Bobcat99]

Glad I only paid $85 on Monday.
Any chance you wanna sell those?

[CopperCat]

I agree that 50/50 balls and QB running is not going to beat NDSU.

This is a good matchup for NDSU IMO. Looking forward to a good game.

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Luepke is perfect to go against this defense.

MSU was without their most prolific weapon today, Isaiah Ifanse. He should be good for the chipper, so I don't expect the game plan to be "throwing up a bunch of 50/50 balls and Tommy running around."

[Bobcat99]

I’m looking for 2 tickets if anybody has any for sale.

Thanks!

[JSUSoutherner]

Any chance you wanna sell those?
Well I only have the one and nope.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

MSU was without their most prolific weapon today, Isaiah Ifanse. He should be good for the chipper, so I don't expect the game plan to be "throwing up a bunch of 50/50 balls and Tommy running around."


Good.

NDSU was down multiple starters also. 3 weeks rest will help both teams.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I think the same thing just happened to SDSU.


SDSU had 315 passing yards and 124 rushing yards against Montana State. 439 total yards of offense is 2 yards below their ave. They didn't get shut down.

[CopperCat]

SDSU had 315 passing yards and 124 rushing yards against Montana State. 439 total yards of offense is 2 yards below their ave. They didn't get shut down.

You're right, but the MSU defense did pitch a shutout in the second half, and held SDSU well below their ppg average.

[Gil Dobie]

Conference
Record
Appearances by season


Games
W
L
Win pct.
Won
Lost


SoCon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Conference)
16
8
8
.500
1988, 1992, 1996, 1999, 2000, 2005, 2006, 2007
1983, 1985, 1987, 1991, 1993, 1995, 1998, 2001


MVFC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Valley_Football_Conference)
16https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Dagger-14-plain.png
10
5
.667
1997, 2002, 2011*, 2012*, 2013*, 2014*, 2015*, 2017*, 2018*, 2019*
1999, 2005, 2014*, 2016*, 2020*


Big Sky (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Sky_Conference)
15https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Dagger-14-plain.png
6
8
.429
1980, 1981, 1984, 1995, 2001, 2010*
1990, 1994, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2018*


Independent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_FCS_independent_schools)
11
7
4
.636
1985, 1986, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994
1979, 1982, 1988, 1992


Southland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southland_Conference)
9
2
7
.222
1987, 2020*
1984, 1986, 1989, 1997, 2002, 2011*, 2012*


CAA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_Athletic_Association)
8
3
5
.375
2008, 2009, 2016*
2007, 2010*, 2013*, 2017*, 2019*


OVC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Valley_Conference)
5
2
3
.400
1979, 1982
1980, 1981, 2015*


A-10 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_10_Conference)
4
3
1
.750
1998, 2003, 2004
2006


MVC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Valley_Conference)
1
1
0
1.000
1983



SIAC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Intercollegiate_Athletic_Conference)
1
1
0
1.000
1978



Patriot League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_League)
1
0
1
.000

2003


Yankee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee_Conference)
1
0
1
.000

1978

[ming01]

Another team we get to make look pedestrian? Our offense doesn't turn the ball over, as long as we keep that up NDSU should win comfortably.

[Utgrizfan]

I like MSU's chances in this game, both are solid ground and pound teams with great Defenses. Going with the Cats winning in a 20-17 type game.

[CopperCat]

Another team we get to make look pedestrian? Our offense doesn't turn the ball over, as long as we keep that up NDSU should win comfortably.

Posts like this are why people don't like the NDSU fanbase. And it's too bad, because I know some excellent people who are NDSU fans.

[Christiank22]

Posts like this are why people don't like the NDSU fanbase. And it's too bad, because I know some excellent people who are NDSU fans.

It’s just a message board man. I promise you you will have a great time with any NDSU fan you meet in frisco!

[marenlee]

Posts like this are why people don't like the NDSU fanbase. And it's too bad, because I know some excellent people who are NDSU fans.

You’ve obviously never been to an NDSU game. I’ve never seen opposing fans treated so well. You are guaranteed to be fed and given all the booze.


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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Posts like this are why people don't like the NDSU fanbase. And it's too bad, because I know some excellent people who are NDSU fans.


It's a freaking message board cupcake.

Everyone will have an opinion on this game. And to tell you the truth, ming01 has a very good point. This is a great matchup for the Bison. Bison can stop the run and pound the running game. We'll see how MSU defends the Bison and vice versa.

Your QB was the whole offense yesterday. I don't think 1 player is single handedly beating this Bison team.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

2 very good defenses in this title game:

Total Defense:

NDSU #3
MSU #13

Scoring Defense:

NDSU #1
MSU #2

Rushing Defense:

NDSU #3
MSU #13

Passing Defense:

NDSU #11
MSU #21

3rd down defense:

NDSU #2
MSU #26


Formula for a low scoring game. Now watch it be something in the 30s or 40s.....

[kalm]

I thought at the time, losing the brawl wasn’t the worst thing in the world for the Cats. Bizon should be favored by a TD or more, but great defense, a solid running game, and a hot QB are recipes for championships. The Cats have a shot at this.

[Bobcat99]

It's a freaking message board cupcake.

Everyone will have an opinion on this game. And to tell you the truth, ming01 has a very good point. This is a great matchup for the Bison. Bison can stop the run and pound the running game. We'll see how MSU defends the Bison and vice versa.

Your QB was the whole offense yesterday. I don't think 1 player is single handedly beating this Bison team.

If our starting RB is back healthy, that would change.

[caribbeanhen]

The Bison are going to do what the Bison do... Win

Anybody Big Sky fan who doesn’t see this is on Cloud 9

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

If our starting RB is back healthy, that would change.


No doubt. If Ifanse can play that will be huge for MSU. Another weapon to defend against.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

The Bison are going to do what the Bison do... Win

Anybody Big Sky fan who doesn’t see this is on Cloud 9


All 4 of the semi final teams played great defense. Defense wins titles, not gimmick offenses. MSU can win this game. Both teams are very good against the run and it will be fun to watch them scheme to try and get the edge in the running game.

[MR. CHICKEN]

......225 LB....LB'S.....CAN'T STOP 240 LB.....RB'S AN' WILDCATS...........DAT'S PHYSICS...NOT PIGGY......."BODIES IN MOTION....TEND TA STAY IN MOTION"..........ENJOY DUH BLING......BIZONZZZZZ'S.....BRAWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

.....BOBCAT'S "D"...NO BETTER'N....JMU'S.......GOOD DEFENSE AGIN' DUH FINESS PASSIN' ATTACKS.......SMASH-MOUTH/SLOBBER-KNOCKIN'.........LIKE DUH HYDROGEN BOMB..........AWK!

[Professor Chaos]

Both teams are very similar to each other and have pretty much the same philosophy: run the ball and stop the run. Lean on the opposing defense with a commitment to the run and make life miserable for the opposing QB if they get one dimensional with a great d-line. It will basically come down to which team can impose their will better and stick to that philosophy.

I'm interested to see if the Bison defense gets aggressive in this game. I thought SDSU would get aggressive with blitzes and I didn't really see it. The Mellott led Bobcat offense looks a lot like the Quincy Patterson led Bison offense with a heavy reliance on the QB run and long developing pass plays. Against the Bison opposing defenses eventually figured out you could blitz that offense to death by forcing them to throw short/hot routes (which Quincy was not good at) and leave the QB no running lanes.

[Professor Chaos]

I'm also going to guess this is Montana State's earliest kickoff in a long time and maybe ever. Not sure it'll make a big difference though, I thought EWU might have issues with that in the 2018 natty and they seemed to handle it just fine coming from PT where kickoff was 9AM local time for them.

[dewey]

Holy balls.

They are always expensive the day of the last semifinal. Always. The tickets will drop as it gets closer. Always have.

Dewey

[Christiank22]

Tbh I feel like we (NDSU, ignore my team on here I can’t get it changed) win by 2-3 scores. MSU is hot right now, but they seem so 1-dimensional. I feel our offense is better and our defense is better.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Tbh I feel like we (NDSU, ignore my team on here I can’t get it changed) win by 2-3 scores. MSU is hot right now, but they seem so 1-dimensional. I feel our offense is better and our defense is better.


....DID YA ASK URSUS...TA DO IT......??..........BRAWK!

[Christiank22]

....DID YA ASK URSUS...TA DO IT......??..........BRAWK!

No not yet! I will!


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[Professor Chaos]

Added the teams stats breakdown in the first post. NDSU has the advantage in most statistical categories but one area where Montana St is better is in turnovers; they've taken it away more and given it away less so that could tip (or balance) the scale in their favor. Redzone efficiency will also be a key. Both defenses are very good in the redzone but both offenses are kind of mediocre (at least at converting redzone trips into TDs).

[caribbeanhen]

Added the teams stats breakdown in the first post. NDSU has the advantage in most statistical categories but one area where Montana St is better is in turnovers; they've taken it away more and given it away less so that could tip (or balance) the scale in their favor. Redzone efficiency will also be a key. Both defenses are very good in the redzone but both offenses are kind of mediocre (at least at converting redzone trips into TDs).

PC, is there such a thing as stats corrected to strength of schedule?

[CopperCat]

You’ve obviously never been to an NDSU game. I’ve never seen opposing fans treated so well. You are guaranteed to be fed and given all the booze.


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Wrong. I lived in ND for awhile and went to a few games. Great people, great gameday experience.

[clawman]

NDSU just held JMU to their lowest yards output and points output for the season, I think they will have a good gameplan for a running QB and 50/50 balls.....xnodx


But for 1 lucky pick and despite really bad play calling by NDSU in the last series, JMU should have won. They were the better team.

[Bison56]

But for 1 lucky pick and despite really bad play calling by NDSU in the last series, JMU should have won. They were the better team.

They were the better team 5 times, but they still could only win 1 game.xcoffeex

[clawman]

Did it seem like the Bobcats took over the line of scrimmage in the 4th qtr. in both the Sam Houston and SDSU games?

[POD Knows]

But for 1 lucky pick and despite really bad play calling by NDSU in the last series, JMU should have won. They were the better team.
BS. Except for the bad playing calling at the goal line by NDSU in the first half the rest of it is moot. Better team. Blow me, we keep hearing that, when are they going to prove it.

[caribbeanhen]

BS. Except for the bad playing calling at the goal line by NDSU in the first half the rest of it is moot. Better team. Blow me, we keep hearing that, when are they going to prove it.

Yep, there was a reason you guys lost to Sammy last year. That barn is worth how many points?

[POD Knows]

Yep, there was a reason you guys lost to Sammy last year. That barn is worth how many points?
SHSU WAS A BETTER TEAM LAST SPRING, that is why they beat us. We were completely outmanned and were lucky to keep it as close as it was.

[GoCatsGo84]

Did it seem like the Bobcats took over the line of scrimmage in the 4th qtr. in both the Sam Houston and SDSU games?

shhh! NDSU will roll us with their not one dimensional offense! Don’t give away our strengths! I wanna keep betting 😂

[ysubigred]

Did it seem like the Bobcats took over the line of scrimmage in the 4th qtr. in both the Sam Houston and SDSU games?Yes.. really impressive showing by MSU. Neither team is weak in that department especially SDSU. There might be something to the "playing in the spring" wearing a team out NDSU maybe disclaiming that theory,,, but I feel MSU was the better team.

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[100%GRIZ]

Interesting the roots of the game come from NDSU! Got to go with the MT Boys especially the Butte and Dillon boys! 26 - 22

[dewey]

SHSU WAS A BETTER TEAM LAST SPRING, that is why they beat us. We were completely outmanned and were lucky to keep it as close as it was.

Agreed. SHSU won that game because they were flat out better. If that game was in Fargo SHSU would have still won. NDSU was fortunate to keep it close with 2 huge special teams TD's.

In terms of the NDSU vs JMU game NDSU was better on that night and that is all that matters.

Dewey

[caribbeanhen]

Agreed. SHSU won that game because they were flat out better. If that game was in Fargo SHSU would have still won. NDSU was fortunate to keep it close with 2 huge special teams TD's.

In terms of the NDSU vs JMU game NDSU was better on that night and that is all that matters.

Dewey

You guys are very gracious but that Fargo Dome advantage needs to be studied further

The noise is not just noise

[POD Knows]

You guys are very gracious but that Fargo Dome advantage needs to be studied further

The noise is not just noise
Our road record is almost as good as our home record. That has been discussed over and over again on here. The noise in the JMU game barely got over 100 decibels it is awesome that you all can use that excuse to cover up the “gaps” in your teams

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

But for 1 lucky pick and despite really bad play calling by NDSU in the last series, JMU should have won. They were the better team.


Bull**it they were. NDSU held JMU to their lowest yards and point total for the year. NDSU was the better team on both sides of the ball.

[ysubigred]

Our road record is almost as good as our home record. That has been discussed over and over again on here. The noise in the JMU game barely got over 100 decibels it is awesome that you all can use that excuse to cover up the “gaps” in your teamsAs ****ty as YSU has been, 2 of our 3 D-I wins over the golden Buffalo's was in the fart and go gym..

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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Our road record is almost as good as our home record. That has been discussed over and over again on here. The noise in the JMU game barely got over 100 decibels it is awesome that you all can use that excuse to cover up the “gaps” in your teams


I think the road record is actually better.

These blowhards trying to say JMU was the better team are morons. Same crap spewed about SHSU, Towson, EWU, Ill State and all the teams NDSU has beat. All luck.

It will be great watching NDSU beat MSU. Great matchup for the Bison. 9th Title is going to be sweet! xnodx

[CPMPride]

If the motto this year is"Nine is Fine" I am gonna yack

[Professor Chaos]

PC, is there such a thing as stats corrected to strength of schedule?
You could probably figure it out but I don't know of anywhere what has anything like that for the FCS.

[dewey]

Bull**it they were. NDSU held JMU to their lowest yards and point total for the year. NDSU was the better team on both sides of the ball.

Agreed. NDSU should have been up 17-0 at the end of the 1st half had it not been for terrible play calling on 1st and goal from the 2.

That is a big difference.

Cole Johnson had only 1 interception all year (with 1 being through his relievers hands). NDSU got 2 and could have had more had Talbert got one in the 3rd quarter. Weber also had a bead on 1 a little before that.

Dewey

[JSUSoutherner]

Let me settle this whole "better team" debate real quick.

JMU was the better team.

But 44 for NDSU is better than JMU.

[POD Knows]

Let me settle this whole "better team" debate real quick.

JMU was the better team.

But 44 for NDSU is better than JMU.Ok. Gonna say the same thing about MSU and SDSU.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Agreed. NDSU should have been up 17-0 at the end of the 1st half had it not been for terrible play calling on 1st and goal from the 2.

That is a big difference.

Cole Johnson had only 1 interception all year (with 1 being through his relievers hands). NDSU got 2 and could have had more had Talbert got one in the 3rd quarter. Weber also had a bead on 1 a little before that.

Dewey


Ya, big boondoggle in clock management and play calling by the staff right before halftime. Should have had a TD.

We hear this same crap from other fan bases every year. Jealousy. NDSU does nothing fancy. Other teams know what they are going to do. NDSU is just better....period.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Let me settle this whole "better team" debate real quick.

JMU was the better team.

But 44 for NDSU is better than JMU.


Bull**it junior.

NDSU continually proves they are the best. NDSU was the better team. Period.

[JSUSoutherner]

Bull**it junior.

NDSU continually proves they are the best. NDSU was the better team. Period.
Whatever you say but the guy was 65% of your yards the other night and the rest of your backs averaged 2.5 YPC against JMU.

If they had a QB that was worth a damn or 44 hadn't absolutely popped off, they'd have won.

[POD Knows]

Whatever you say but the guy was 65% of your yards the other night and the rest of your backs averaged 2.5 YPC against JMU.

If they had a QB that was worth a damn or 44 hadn't absolutely popped off, they'd have won.
Who was the better team. MSU OR SDSU.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Whatever you say but they guy was 65% of your yards the other night and the rest of your backs averaged 2.5 YPC against JMU.

If they had a QB that was worth a damn, they'd have won.


xlolx

OK, genius.

JMU's QB is probably one of the best players in FCS. But guess what and this might be hard for you to understand. NDSU has the best defense in the FCS. DL pressured him into mistakes. What a freaking stupid ass statement...."worth a crap"....xlolx

[JSUSoutherner]

Who was the better team. MSU OR SDSU.
Idk. I didn't watch that game. I was out with friends yesterday.

I mostly made the above to ruffle feathers. My honest opinion was if JMU and NDSU played 10 times NDSU probably wins 6 of them. NDSU deserved the win, but I don't see NDSU as head and shoulders above JMU like some of the d*** beaters on here would say.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Who was the better team. MSU OR SDSU.


MSU proved they were yesterday.

[POD Knows]

Idk. I didn't watch that game. I was out with friends yesterday.

I mostly made the above to ruffle feathers. My honest opinion was if JMU and NDSU played 10 times NDSU probably wins 6 of them. NDSU deserved the win, but I don't see NDSU as head and shoulders above JMU like some of the d*** beaters on here would say.we would beat them 8 out of 10. 4-1 currently. Don’t see anything in this last game that changes that. Also. Our D won the game.

[ysubigred]

Wow! What a bunch of dumb asses on this thread...

NDSU vs MSU

Two best teams.. move along little boyzzzz.. nothing more to see here..

xsalutex

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[JSUSoutherner]

we would beat them 8 out of 10. 4-1 currently. Don’t see anything in this last game that changes that. Also. Our D won the game.
Its the only game I've seen from both teams all year. Maybe you're right. But as someone who doesn't give a rip about either team, watching the game the other night, both teams played pretty good defense. But 44 had a helluva night and JMUs QB was unimpressive.

It's a moot argument anyway. Not sure why you guys are still talking about JMU anyway. It's almost like they've rented a space in the physche of your fandom.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Wow! What a bunch of dumb asses on this thread...

NDSU vs MSU

Two best teams.. move along little boyzzzz.. nothing more to see here..

xsalutex

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This game could be a short game time wise with how both of these teams love to run the ball.

[POD Knows]

Its the only game I've seen from both teams all year. Maybe you're right. But as someone who doesn't give a rip about either team, watching the game the other night, both teams played pretty good defense. But 44 had a helluva night and JMUs QB was unimpressive.

It's a moot argument anyway. Not sure why you guys are still talking about JMU anyway. It's almost like they've rented a space in the physche of your fandom.
You are correct. We should ignore JMU. They were a road bump, a greasy piece of roadkill, annoying for a while, can be dangerous if ignored in real time but that is about it.

[ysubigred]

This game could be a short game time wise with how both of these teams love to run the ball.My 6 - 5 3 OT Game maybe a reality in this one [emoji2962]

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[Bobcat99]

This game could be a short game time wise with how both of these teams love to run the ball.
The way football is meant to be.

The only thing that will ruin it is the dumb media timeouts.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

The way football is meant to be.

The only thing that will ruin it is the dumb media timeouts.


I'm curious how NDSU is going to defend Mellott. NDSU's mainstay is the Tampa-2 with 2 high safeties and secondary in zone. Probably will be nothing extraordinary from the Bison. If DL can pressure with just 4 then the LBs are free to cover and defend against Mellott running. They might have the SS (Tutsie) move into the box and "spy" Mellott if he starts getting yards.

And the same with Montana State and how they are going to defend NDSU's power run game. Most teams do not run A gap power...or almost none do anymore. If NDSU's QB Miller can move the sticks passing, the Bison are going to be hard to beat.

[JSUSoutherner]

This game could be a short game time wise with how both of these teams love to run the ball.


Sounds like more time to spend in the bar afterwards to me.

[Bisonoline]

Whatever you say but the guy was 65% of your yards the other night and the rest of your backs averaged 2.5 YPC against JMU.

If they had a QB that was worth a damn or 44 hadn't absolutely popped off, they'd have won.

Coulda woulda shoulda. xblahxxblahxxblahxxblahx

[MSUBobcat]

MSU wins due to having 3 Hollywood movie storylines. First, you have a starting QB quit on his team just before the playoffs start, only to watch them win it all without him. Next, you have the home grown hero from Butte, America leading the team to its first championship since 1984. Lastly, MSU will have knocked off the 3 teams that have knocked them out of the playoffs since 2010 (NDSU in 2010, 2018 and 2019; SHSU in 2011 and 2012; SDSU in 2014). It's like a movie script.

[Professor Chaos]

I'm curious how NDSU is going to defend Mellott. NDSU's mainstay is the Tampa-2 with 2 high safeties and secondary in zone. Probably will be nothing extraordinary from the Bison. If DL can pressure with just 4 then the LBs are free to cover and defend against Mellott running. They might have the SS (Tutsie) move into the box and "spy" Mellott if he starts getting yards.

And the same with Montana State and how they are going to defend NDSU's power run game. Most teams do not run A gap power...or almost none do anymore. If NDSU's QB Miller can move the sticks passing, the Bison are going to be hard to beat.
And if his receivers can cure their dropsies... Miller continues to make great throws but his receivers have been letting him down. Quincy Patterson dropped a sure fire TD and it was either Raja Nelson or Braylon Henderson that dropped what would've been a huge 3rd and 12 conversion in the 2nd half when JMU was making their run. There were numerous drops on well placed throws by Miller in the quarterfinals as well.

Both offenses should be better versions of themselves than they were in the semis by the time this game rolls around assuming the Bison get Christian Watson back and Montana St gets Isaiah Ifanse back.

[MSUBobcat]

And if his receivers can cure their dropsies... Miller continues to make great throws but his receivers have been letting him down. Quincy Patterson dropped a sure fire TD and it was either Raja Nelson or Braylon Henderson that dropped what would've been a huge 3rd and 12 conversion in the 2nd half when JMU was making their run. There were numerous drops on well placed throws by Miller in the quarterfinals as well.

Both offenses should be better versions of themselves than they were in the semis by the time this game rolls around assuming the Bison get Christian Watson back and Montana St gets Isaiah Ifanse back.

We hopefully get first team All-Big Sky DT Chase Benson and second team All-Big Sky DB Ty Okada back. As salty as the D was yesterday, especially the D-line, it's quite a bit better with Benson.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

And if his receivers can cure their dropsies... Miller continues to make great throws but his receivers have been letting him down. Quincy Patterson dropped a sure fire TD and it was either Raja Nelson or Braylon Henderson that dropped what would've been a huge 3rd and 12 conversion in the 2nd half when JMU was making their run. There were numerous drops on well placed throws by Miller in the quarterfinals as well.

Both offenses should be better versions of themselves than they were in the semis by the time this game rolls around assuming the Bison get Christian Watson back and Montana St gets Isaiah Ifanse back.


Even with Watson the Bison WR corp is mediocre at best. Watson, when healthy and has his head in the game, is a game changer. All the other WRs are inconsistent at best. TEs are better WRs than the WRs....

Watson might be a NFL talent but IMO, he never makes it in the NFL.

[caribbeanhen]

And if his receivers can cure their dropsies... Miller continues to make great throws but his receivers have been letting him down. Quincy Patterson dropped a sure fire TD and it was either Raja Nelson or Braylon Henderson that dropped what would've been a huge 3rd and 12 conversion in the 2nd half when JMU was making their run. There were numerous drops on well placed throws by Miller in the quarterfinals as well.

Both offenses should be better versions of themselves than they were in the semis by the time this game rolls around assuming the Bison get Christian Watson back and Montana St gets Isaiah Ifanse back.

I think Watson’s impact would be greater than Ifanse

[Chalupa Batman]

We hopefully get first team All-Big Sky DT Chase Benson and second team All-Big Sky DB Ty Okada back. As salty as the D was yesterday, especially the D-line, it's quite a bit better with Benson.

What was Okada’s injury? I know Benson has a bad back. How hopeful are you for each of them?

[Grizalltheway]

I think Watson’s impact would be greater than Ifanse
Not trying to knock on Watson but Ifanse was the third leading rusher in FCS this year.

[Professor Chaos]

I think Watson’s impact would be greater than Ifanse
I'd think so just because Montana State's defense is potentially good enough to stymie the Bison run game if they don't have to worry about the pass. Watson practically demands double coverage. Montana St's staff need only look at the 2019 semifinal to see what a game changer he is: https://youtu.be/oBJDlNsald0?t=45


Not trying to knock on Watson but Ifanse was the third leading rusher in FCS this year.
They're both elite. HERO Sports named Watson a first team All-American and that's not something that's easy to do for a WR in this NDSU offense (110th in the nation in passing yards per game). Good chance he's one of the top 5 FCS players drafted next spring.

[Chalupa Batman]

Montana State has the best defensive backfield in all of FCS and even with Watson playing could very well shut down our WR's like JMU did in 2016. The Bison are going to have to be pretty creative in the passing game, using the TE's and Luepke a bunch. Luckily they showed this last game they're willing to do that.

[POD Knows]

Montana State has the best defensive backfield in all of FCS and even with Watson playing could very well shut down our WR's like JMU did in 2016. The Bison are going to have to be pretty creative in the passing game, using the TE's and Luepke a bunch. Luckily they showed this last game they're willing to do that.
What is your opinion on their defensive backfield based on?

[CopperCat]

What was Okada’s injury? I know Benson has a bad back. How hopeful are you for each of them?

Okada has a shot to start. Benson probably won't based on what I'm hearing (reliable source).

[Chalupa Batman]

What is your opinion on their defensive backfield based on?

They shut down an elite passing offense in EWU, Barriere had barely over 200 yards IIRC. I wouldn’t base my opinion off the Jacks game, they were focusing more on the run in that game. I think they are susceptible to TE’s and RB’s catching the ball which was a lot of the success that SDSU had. I just don’t think our WR’s will have much success in this game, Watson included. Cam isn’t the thrower Oladokun is either which is another reason why I think that.

[caribbeanhen]

Not trying to knock on Watson but Ifanse was the third leading rusher in FCS this year.

I know but the Bison D should make him look more pedestrian

[UNHWildcat18]

Good luck Bobcats. Hope you pull it off

[POD Knows]

I know but the Bison D should make him look more pedestrian
He gained 100 yards total in two previous games against us. I get that this is not the same MSU team and the fact that Mellot is such a running threat probably makes him more of a threat. Who knows.

[caribbeanhen]

He gained 100 yards total in two previous games against us. I get that this is not the same MSU team and the fact that Mellot is such a running threat probably makes him more of a threat. Who knows.

I can see that, TD Tommy changes everything, I ask how do you think he does it?

I don’t know but what makes him so good 😊

[Chalupa Batman]

I can see that, TD Tommy changes everything, I ask how do you think he does it?

I don’t know but what makes him so good 

He is really good, but it helps he's played two pass defenses that weren't very good and played schemes that were tailor made for him. He could just keep throwing the fades and back shoulder throws against SHSU & SDSU and let his receivers make plays against DB's who sucked at playing the ball.

I wouldn't expect that to work against NDSU's base 2 deep zone. Vigen knows that too, and I'm sure he'll find some creative ways to get some big play opportunities in the passing game. He is such a good runner though and he's only a freshman. Scary to think what he'll be in 2-3 years.

[POD Knows]

I can see that, TD Tommy changes everything, I ask how do you think he does it?

I don’t know but what makes him so good 
Well. He is pretty fast, he is a small target. He seems to have real good vision and runs hard, not just fast. I wonder how much he can leg press. Seems to have a ton of confidence and doesn’t get rattled
Let’s see how he does in January before we anoint him as a deity. He bitch slapped SDSU single handedly and no Bison QB in recent memory has done that.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

]Montana State has the best defensive backfield in all of FCS[/SIZE] and even with Watson playing could very well shut down our WR's like JMU did in 2016. The Bison are going to have to be pretty creative in the passing game, using the TE's and Luepke a bunch. Luckily they showed this last game they're willing to do that.


Based on what criteria?

They are #14 in pass efficiency defense, #21 in passing yards allowed and #26 in 3rd down defense. NDSU is ranked higher in every category.

[Professor Chaos]

NDSU opens as a 9.5 point favorite with an O/U of 43 on 5dimes (https://madduxsports.com/college-football-lines.php). So the sharks are predicting a 26-17 victory for NDSU. I'm sure that line will move though.

[SeattleCat]

Post Game press conference from the SDSU game. I encourage you to watch the Tommy & Troy portion of the interviews, and tell how you don't root for Tommy. He's such a fantastic kid.

https://youtu.be/ICz8qGK4Fj4

[AmsterBison]

NDSU opens as a 9.5 point favorite with an O/U of 43 on 5dimes (https://madduxsports.com/college-football-lines.php). So the sharks are predicting a 26-17 victory for NDSU. I'm sure that line will move though.

Saw the 9.5 and that it was the o/u. :)

The two best scoring defenses in the nation meeting in the championship? That is just as it should be.

Ifanse coming back would be huge for Montana State... a lot of times Big Sky teams have these spread offense RBs who go down on contact that wouldn't even slow down the best MVFC backs. Ifanse is more like an MVFC back. Having him back gives MSU's offense a much better chance of running wild.

On the flip side, if NDSU gets a healthy Watson back, that gives Montana's defense another 20 yards of vertical space to cover - which opens up the middle for TEs, the sidelines for wheel routes, and the flat for RBs. I mean, sure, Sproles had a chance for a huge catch against JMU if not for the (uncalled) PI, but with Watson, it's sometimes tough for DBs to get close enough to grab the back of his jersey and hold on.

[caribbeanhen]

I think the road record is actually better.

These blowhards trying to say JMU was the better team are morons. Same crap spewed about SHSU, Towson, EWU, Ill State and all the teams NDSU has beat. All luck.

It will be great watching NDSU beat MSU. Great matchup for the Bison. 9th Title is going to be sweet! xnodx

OK Bison, I’ll bite

Since you've been in FCS, how many road playoff games have you had?

Not including Frisco as that is technically a neutral sight

I don’t remember many and I’m not trying to degrade the dominance The Bison have punished FCS with but off the top I only remember the game at Sam Houston last year

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

OK Bison, I’ll bite

Since you've been in FCS, how many road playoff games have you had?

Not including Frisco as that is technically a neutral sight

I don’t remember many and I’m not trying to degrade the dominance The Bison have punished FCS with but off the top I only remember the game at Sam Houston last year


I was talking about playing on the road for all games. IIRC, NDSU is better on the road then home over the last 11 years.

[Professor Chaos]

I was talking about playing on the road for all games. IIRC, NDSU is better on the road then home over the last 11 years.
They're now a bit better at home than on the road since 2011. Going a pedestrian 6-3 on the road between this spring and this fall doubled their road losses since 2011. Still the dominance extends to the road:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51759861020_0fd7f6de59_o.jpg

[caribbeanhen]

I was talking about playing on the road for all games. IIRC, NDSU is better on the road then home over the last 11 years.

gotcha, so only one road playoff game in 11 years?

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

gotcha, so only one road playoff game in 11 years?

2 games in '10: Montana State and EWU

1 game in spring '21

[caribbeanhen]

2 games in '10: Montana State and EWU

1 game in spring '21

I know that loss to Eastern Washington was controversial but if you had won, you would of played Delaware in finals I believe, or maybe it was Nova that lost to E Washington in semi

anyway

you’re récord outside the Dome in FCS playoffs is 1-2

something to work on 😂

[Professor Chaos]

Both of these defenses have only given up 6 total rushing TDs each on the season. That's crazy good for 14 games. I think both offenses are going to have to be diverse in their play selection when they get into the redzone (that sound you hear is every Bison fan groaning).

[caribbeanhen]

Both of these defenses have only given up 6 total rushing TDs each on the season. That's crazy good for 14 games. I think both offenses are going to have to be diverse in their play selection when they get into the redzone (that sound you hear is every Bison fan groaning).

I didn’t realize how good the DL is for Montana St. South Dakota St had probably the best OL in the country and they were getting blown up late in that game.

I think some of those intangibles finally caught up to the Jacks

[AmsterBison]

I know that loss to Eastern Washington was controversial but if you had won, you would of played Delaware in finals I believe, or maybe it was Nova that lost to E Washington in semi

anyway

you’re récord outside the Dome in FCS playoffs is 1-2

something to work on 

I kinda think that the reason that NDSU is 1-2 in those away games has more to do with the quality of the teams those years than the site. :)

Anyway, NDSU still has more road playoff games than Eastern Washington - the Eagles had only 2 away games (0-2), 2 neutrals (1-1), and 18 home (14-4.)

[Professor Chaos]

I didn’t realize how good the DL is for Montana St. South Dakota St had probably the best OL in the country and they were getting blown up late in that game.

I think some of those intangibles finally caught up to the Jacks
Agreed, the way they shut down SDSU's run game, and Isaiah Davis in particular, was impressive. I'd say SDSU o-line starts getting very average when you make them have to pass block, which isn't easy to do but MSU defense did it. If there's one thing I know about NDSU OC Tyler Roehl it's that he won't abandon the run game but if the Bison defense gives up 31 points like the Jacks did it's going to be tough for them to win.

[Preferred Walk-On]

I know that loss to Eastern Washington was controversial but if you had won, you would of played Delaware in finals I believe, or maybe it was Nova that lost to E Washington in semi

anyway

you’re récord outside the Dome in FCS playoffs is 1-2

something to work on 

Not sure if this is being considered, but those were road playoff games, because the team was not as good in those instances. Just sayin'.

So is it really home field, or is it that those teams were simply good enough to be rewarded with playing at home?

I think it is not so much with making the Bison play on the road as it is them being down enough to have to play on the road. Same with Sam Houston...dominant at home in the playoffs, but those teams were really good, and even the ones that were down a bit won their early round games at home.

You are right though, 1-2 is something to work on. I think they worked on it by simply being better and having home games throughout. ;)

EDIT: Sorry Amster, just saw your post, and you beat me to it.

[ming01]

It's a freaking message board cupcake.

Everyone will have an opinion on this game. And to tell you the truth, ming01 has a very good point. This is a great matchup for the Bison. Bison can stop the run and pound the running game. We'll see how MSU defends the Bison and vice versa.

Your QB was the whole offense yesterday. I don't think 1 player is single handedly beating this Bison team.

Some peeps just cant handle honesty. NDSUs defense is likely the difference in this one.

[Hammerhead]

How do you get home playoff games? Win more regular season games and win the conference title from the best conference in the FCS.



Not sure if this is being considered, but those were road playoff games, because the team was not as good in those instances. Just sayin'.

So is it really home field, or is it that those teams were simply good enough to be rewarded with playing at home?

I think it is not so much with making the Bison play on the road as it is them being down enough to have to play on the road. Same with Sam Houston...dominant at home in the playoffs, but those teams were really good, and even the ones that were down a bit won their early round games at home.

You are right though, 1-2 is something to work on. I think they worked on it by simply being better and having home games throughout. ;)

EDIT: Sorry Amster, just saw your post, and you beat me to it.

[CopperCat]

Some peeps just cant handle honesty. NDSUs defense is likely the difference in this one.

It isn't honesty. It's institutional arrogance.

[Christiank22]

It isn't honesty. It's institutional arrogance.

I mean we’re better than you in every defensive category and we have a harder schedule and we have a better record. How is it not honesty?

[Hammerhead]

Maybe MSU's defense looked good because SDSU's offensive coordinator was dreaming of his new job announced after they lost?

[Chalupa Batman]

Based on what criteria?

They are #14 in pass efficiency defense, #21 in passing yards allowed and #26 in 3rd down defense. NDSU is ranked higher in every category.

What I saw them do against EWU earlier in the year. The last two games look bad but they played balanced offenses and they sacrificed their pass D a little to stop the run. They gave up more passing yards but they still made SHSU & SDSU pay to do it, getting 4 INT's against 3 TD's. They're pretty opportunistic too, ranked #4 in the country with 18 INT's on the year. Even if I did jump the gun calling them the best DB's in the FCS, they are still very, very good. Good enough that I wouldn't be surprised if they are able to shut down our WR's like JMU did in 2016. As I replied to POD that is both the fact that Cam isn't the thrower that Oladokun & Schmid are, coupled with our WR's as a whole not being as good as SDSU's & SHSU's.

[acbearkat]

If Montana State is able to stop North Dakota State's run game, they definitely have a shot. I was shocked at just how badly they beat Sam Houston on both sides of the line of scrimmage. It was eye opening. I'm still not convinced Cam Miller can win the game if North Dakota State's run game is slowed down.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

It isn't honesty. It's institutional arrogance.


xrolleyesx

If this statement makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside then go with it.....xrolleyesx

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

What I saw them do against EWU earlier in the year. The last two games look bad but they played balanced offenses and they sacrificed their pass D a little to stop the run. They gave up more passing yards but they still made SHSU & SDSU pay to do it, getting 4 INT's against 3 TD's. They're pretty opportunistic too, ranked #4 in the country with 18 INT's on the year. Even if I did jump the gun calling them the best DB's in the FCS, they are still very, very good. Good enough that I wouldn't be surprised if they are able to shut down our WR's like JMU did in 2016. As I replied to POD that is both the fact that Cam isn't the thrower that Oladokun & Schmid are, coupled with our WR's as a whole not being as good as SDSU's & SHSU's.


Everyone has an opinion and you have yours. We'll see how they defend the Bison run game. Different running game/style compared to SDSU and SHSU.

And I don't get all the negative Cam statements from many on here. No, he doesn't have a huge arm but he gets the job done. How many dropped balls have the WRs had?

[MSUBobcat]

If Montana State is able to stop North Dakota State's run game, they definitely have a shot. I was shocked at just how badly they beat Sam Houston on both sides of the line of scrimmage. It was eye opening. I'm still not convinced Cam Miller can win the game if North Dakota State's run game is slowed down.

xshhhx The Bizzuns are the best and no one has a chance to stop them from bringing another trophy back to the frozen tundra. After they dispatch us by 70, they're going to petition the NCAA to challenge the winner of the CFP. Once they thrash the FBS foe there, it's on to whooping up on the winner of Super Bowl LVI. We probably shouldn't even play the game in Frisco out of fear of life changing injuries for any Bobcat that takes the field.

[ysubigred]

xshhhx The Bizzuns are the best and no one has a chance to stop them from bringing another trophy back to the frozen tundra. After they dispatch us by 70, they're going to petition the NCAA to challenge the winner of the CFP. Once they thrash the FBS foe there, it's on to whooping up on the winner of Super Bowl LVI. We probably shouldn't even play the game in Frisco out of fear of life changing injuries for any Bobcat that takes the field.Damn,, I was thinking the same.. people need to listen to realist like us.. [emoji106]

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[caribbeanhen]

Not sure if this is being considered, but those were road playoff games, because the team was not as good in those instances. Just sayin'.

So is it really home field, or is it that those teams were simply good enough to be rewarded with playing at home?

I think it is not so much with making the Bison play on the road as it is them being down enough to have to play on the road. Same with Sam Houston...dominant at home in the playoffs, but those teams were really good, and even the ones that were down a bit won their early round games at home.

You are right though, 1-2 is something to work on. I think they worked on it by simply being better and having home games throughout. ;)

EDIT: Sorry Amster, just saw your post, and you beat me to it.


You make some very fair points but the only thing I was trying to establish was what the away record was in FCS playoff games.

1-2

I recognize really how amazing it is that you’ve only played three away games during this 11 or 12 year era of Bison

[JSUSoutherner]

You make some very fair points but the only thing I was trying to establish was what the away record was in FCS playoff games.

1-2

I recognize really how amazing it is that you’ve only played three away games during this 11 or 12 year era of Bison
They have a 1-2 away record?

They also have a 1-2 record against Jax State.

Coincidence? :D


Yes. Yes it is.

[Christiank22]

xshhhx The Bizzuns are the best and no one has a chance to stop them from bringing another trophy back to the frozen tundra. After they dispatch us by 70, they're going to petition the NCAA to challenge the winner of the CFP. Once they thrash the FBS foe there, it's on to whooping up on the winner of Super Bowl LVI. We probably shouldn't even play the game in Frisco out of fear of life changing injuries for any Bobcat that takes the field.

How insecure are you? Pretty sad post lol, no one is saying MSU doesn’t have a chance but you’re high if you don’t think NDSU is the favorite to win

Then again montana is full of hippies so you might be high anyway

[BEAR]

I haven't kept up with the Bison this year but I did catch the last game where if it weren't for #44 playing out of his skull the Bison would be at home today.
IF and I do say IF Montana State is able to stop him or if he has a hang nail that is bugging him, do the Bison usually have other players on offense that step up? I imagine so looking at their record. But I don't know.
The other thing I'm seeing here is MSU fans not sure their offense is good enough to get enough points even if their defense is effective.

But man I'm looking for the upset. Bobcats by a field goal. xlolx

[acbearkat]

How insecure are you? Pretty sad post lol, no one is saying MSU doesn’t have a chance but you’re high if you don’t think NDSU is the favorite to win

Then again montana is full of hippies so you might be high anyway

He was being sarcastic.


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[wapiti]

How insecure are you? Pretty sad post lol, no one is saying MSU doesn’t have a chance but you’re high if you don’t think NDSU is the favorite to win

Then again University of Montana is full of hippies

Fixed it for Ya

[MSUBobcat]

How insecure are you? Pretty sad post lol, no one is saying MSU doesn’t have a chance but you’re high if you don’t think NDSU is the favorite to win

Then again montana is full of hippies so you might be high anyway

Not real bright, eh? Not sure how a tongue-in-cheek comment makes one insecure.

If you think Montana is full of hippies, you clearly haven't been here before. And if you think only hippies smoke the Devil's Lettuce, I've got some oceanfront property in AZ you'd probably be interesting in.

[Chalupa Batman]

Everyone has an opinion and you have yours. We'll see how they defend the Bison run game. Different running game/style compared to SDSU and SHSU.

And I don't get all the negative Cam statements from many on here. No, he doesn't have a huge arm but he gets the job done. How many dropped balls have the WRs had?

I think at this stage of his career Cam's not as good a passer as the other QB's I mentioned. It's not negative it's just what it is. In a year or two he can be a lot better than those guys.

I'll be happy to be wrong, but I think their defense matches up pretty well against us and I expect a big challenge.

[POD Knows]

Fixed it for Ya
Went to Missoula when the Bison lost to the Griz. While walking into the tailgate I saw a drum circle of hippies on the way in. Never seen that before. Didn’t know whether or not to throw money or what, they reminded me of the Manson family so I think I laughed at them.

[POD Knows]

Not real bright, eh? Not sure how a tongue-in-cheek comment makes one insecure.

If you think Montana is full of hippies, you clearly haven't been here before. And if you think only hippies smoke the Devil's Lettuce, I've got some oceanfront property in AZ you'd probably be interesting in.
Seriously. Western Montana is full of these ****s.

[MSUBobcat]

Seriously. Western Montana is full of these ****s.

Is there a bunch in the 2 main college towns, particularly Missoula? Of course. Full of them??? Hardly.

Anywho... the thread is really going to devolve if we get into the weeds about whether or not "western MT is full of hippies" (one trip down the 'Root would change one's mind). Now if a person said western MT was full of yuppies.... no argument there.

[BisonFan02]

Is there a bunch in the 2 main college towns, particularly Missoula? Of course. Full of them??? Hardly.

Anywho... the thread is really going to devolve if we get into the weeds about whether or not "western MT is full of hippies" (one trip down the 'Root would change one's mind). Now if a person said western MT was full of yuppies.... no argument there.

Same difference really.

[Christiank22]

Not real bright, eh? Not sure how a tongue-in-cheek comment makes one insecure.

If you think Montana is full of hippies, you clearly haven't been here before. And if you think only hippies smoke the Devil's Lettuce, I've got some oceanfront property in AZ you'd probably be interesting in.

Spent a lot of time in Bozeman and do most of our shopping in billings, lots of subies and Prius’ around

The only part of montana that’s still montana is the east side of the state and most you guys call that western ND anyway

[BisonBacker]

Whatever you say but the guy was 65% of your yards the other night and the rest of your backs averaged 2.5 YPC against JMU.

If they had a QB that was worth a damn or 44 hadn't absolutely popped off, they'd have won.

If if's and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

[Chalupa Batman]

These is a nice change of pace from all the times we’ve been told “at least we don’t have to go back to North Dakota!” Now we’re practically saying “ at least we don’t have to go back to Montana!”

[Bison56]

xshhhx The Bizzuns are the best and no one has a chance to stop them from bringing another trophy back to the frozen tundra. After they dispatch us by 70, they're going to petition the NCAA to challenge the winner of the CFP. Once they thrash the FBS foe there, it's on to whooping up on the winner of Super Bowl LVI. We probably shouldn't even play the game in Frisco out of fear of life changing injuries for any Bobcat that takes the field.

Get serious 70? Maybe 50;)

[POD Knows]

These is a nice change of pace from all the times we’ve been told “at least we don’t have to go back to North Dakota!” Now we’re practically saying “ at least we don’t have to go back to Montana!”
Yea but when you get back to Montana, you are in Montana. Just saying.

[acbearkat]

Get serious 70? Maybe 50;)

You apparently cannot detect sarcasm.


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[Chalupa Batman]

You apparently cannot detect sarcasm.


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I don’t think you can either

[Chalupa Batman]

Montana State is going to be playing their third straight game involving a lame-duck coordinator. This time it’s their own DC Freddie Banks (and former Bison DB) moving on to the same position at Colorado State.

https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-freddie-banks-colorado-state-defensive-coordinator

[MSUBobcat]

Montana State is going to be playing their third straight game involving a lame-duck coordinator. This time it’s their own DC Freddie Banks (and former Bison DB) moving on to the same position at Colorado State.

https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-freddie-banks-colorado-state-defensive-coordinator

Well..... ****.....

[MSUBobcat]

These is a nice change of pace from all the times we’ve been told “at least we don’t have to go back to North Dakota!” Now we’re practically saying “ at least we don’t have to go back to Montana!”

As a native of ND for 17 years and a Bakken worker for 6 more, MT is definitely still way better. Last Best Place, man.

[Christiank22]

As a native of ND for 17 years and a Bakken worker for 6 more, MT is definitely still way better. Last Best Place, man.

The landscape out west is prettier for sure, but you can’t deny it’s being overrun by some not so montanian people. Which is sad.

[Chalupa Batman]

As a native of ND for 17 years and a Bakken worker for 6 more, MT is definitely still way better. Last Best Place, man.

Wasn’t knocking it. I’ve only driven through Montana but it is very beautiful and I have heard many great things about it. NDSU fans talking about the other schools state instead of the other way around struck me as funny.

[MSUBobcat]

Wasn’t knocking it. I’ve only driven through Montana but it is very beautiful and I have heard many great things about it. NDSU fans talking about the other schools state instead of the other way around struck me as funny.

Ironic for sure haha. I've got mostly great memories growing up and wouldn't trade it. But once I got to Bozeman, it was just.... welp, mountains are ****ing awesome! Lived in Alaska for a year out of college, and its MT on steroids. But the ****ing DARK! Anchorage isnt cold when you grew up in ND but I couldn't do the darkness and fled back to MT haha.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Montana State vs. North Dakota State: It's all in the numbers - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports (https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/montana-state-vs-north-dakota-state-its-all-in-the-numbers)

[Bison56]

I don’t think you can either

xnodx

[Catbooster]

Should be a good crowd for this game. Tickets (other than resells and the 2 schools' allotments) were sold out Saturday (maybe Friday?).

MSU's allotment was sold based on priority points starting this morning. 9:00 AM highest points, 11:00 next, 2:00 next and so on through Tuesday (tomorrow). They sold out about noon today.

I assume NDSU's allotment will (or did) sell quickly too.

[acbearkat]

I don’t think you can either

I realized the sarcasm immediately.


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[Christiank22]

Montana State vs. North Dakota State: It's all in the numbers - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports (https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/montana-state-vs-north-dakota-state-its-all-in-the-numbers)

The 162 yard rushing mark was wild to me. That’s not THAT many yards and we’ve only lost once when we’ve gained that. Insane.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

The 162 yard rushing mark was wild to me. That’s not THAT many yards and we’ve only lost once when we’ve gained that. Insane.


IMO, if Montana State sits back in their base defense, NDSU is going to run over them. I suspect they will run blitz like most teams do to try and stop the run on obvious run downs/situations. Every game I've been to this year and most games every year, teams do a lot of run blitzing on the Bison to try and slow them down.

Like I've mentioned before, I'm excited with this matchup because it is a great matchup for the Bison. Bison go over that mark in this game.

[IowaBison2]

I haven't kept up with the Bison this year but I did catch the last game where if it weren't for #44 playing out of his skull the Bison would be at home today.
IF and I do say IF Montana State is able to stop him or if he has a hang nail that is bugging him, do the Bison usually have other players on offense that step up? I imagine so looking at their record. But I don't know.
The other thing I'm seeing here is MSU fans not sure their offense is good enough to get enough points even if their defense is effective.

But man I'm looking for the upset. Bobcats by a field goal. xlolx

You serious Clark? If Mollett didn’t play like he did, the Bobcats would be at home today. Dumb statement.


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[POD Knows]

You serious Clark? If Mollett didn’t play like he did, the Bobcats would be at home today. Dumb statement.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalkare you the same Bison poster that cant get rid of his Austin Peay team name?

[Christiank22]

are you the same Bison poster that cant get rid of his Austin Peay team name?

No that’s me. I got it fixed I think

[caribbeanhen]

As a native of ND for 17 years and a Bakken worker for 6 more, MT is definitely still way better. Last Best Place, man.

Bakken for 6 years? your pockets must be flush with cash unless you blew it all on the strippers

[Catbooster]

You serious Clark? If Luepke didn’t play like he did, the Bison would be at home today. Dumb statement.


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Fixed your post xcoffeex







Edit: That's what I get for scanning posts to catch up - you were making the same point in response to Bear's comment originally about Luepke.

I'm really looking forward to this game. Should be fun.

[TribeNomad1]

The landscape out west is prettier for sure, but you can’t deny it’s being overrun by some not so montanian people. Which is sad.


Beth with a Bobcat reference on Yellowstone last week.

[Professor Chaos]

Should be a good crowd for this game. Tickets (other than resells and the 2 schools' allotments) were sold out Saturday (maybe Friday?).

MSU's allotment was sold based on priority points starting this morning. 9:00 AM highest points, 11:00 next, 2:00 next and so on through Tuesday (tomorrow). They sold out about noon today.

I assume NDSU's allotment will (or did) sell quickly too.
NDSU accepted requests for tickets in their allotment through 4PM CT yesterday. Tickets are "awarded" based on donor priority points and notifications will be sent out to requestors on 12/28. NDSU has never not used up their allotment and usually demand for those tickets far outpace supply. I suspect demand for Frisco tickets amongst the NDSU faithful will be down this year compared to past years but there will still be more than enough requests to use up the allotment.

Also, many Bison fans (although not as many as it used to be) buy tickets for Frisco well in advance some as early as late August.

[Christiank22]

Beth with a Bobcat reference on Yellowstone last week.

Heard that!

[caribbeanhen]

Well. He is pretty fast, he is a small target. He seems to have real good vision and runs hard, not just fast. I wonder how much he can leg press. Seems to have a ton of confidence and doesn’t get rattled
Let’s see how he does in January before we anoint him as a deity. He bitch slapped SDSU single handedly and no Bison QB in recent memory has done that.

Did you catch what my question really was

just checking to see if you’re still on your game

[Professor Chaos]

Beth with a Bobcat reference on Yellowstone last week.
Ironic thing is Darby, MT where the real Chief Joseph Ranch is at that they use as the Yellowstone in the show is much closer to Missoula than Bozeman. But I believe the show itself is supposed to be set in the Yellowstone River valley just north of the north entrance to the national park and just a bit SE of Bozeman.

[POD Knows]

No that’s me. I got it fixed I think
Yep. It is fixed.

[Iridebikes]

I do believe that NDSU will be the national champion again. MSU's defense is really, really good. And Mellot looks to be a productive quarterback. However the last two games, against SHSU and SDSU Mellot was able too and did take advantage of two teams with below average defensive backfields. This led to a number of big plays and allowed the running game to have some room to run. Statistics show that NDSU's defensive secondary is better and I think this will be the difference. However, it should be a good game.

[Christiank22]

Ironic thing is Darby, MT where the real Chief Joseph Ranch is at that they use as the Yellowstone in the show is much closer to Missoula than Bozeman. But I believe the show itself is supposed to be set in the Yellowstone River valley just north of the north entrance to the national park and just a bit SE of Bozeman.

It theoretically takes place in Paradise valley, but yeah it’s not shot there lol

[MSUBobcat]

The 162 yard rushing mark was wild to me. That’s not THAT many yards and we’ve only lost once when we’ve gained that. Insane.

I would assume stopping the run will be first and foremost, for both teams. Make the opponent beat you through the air.

[MSUBobcat]

Bakken for 6 years? your pockets must be flush with cash unless you blew it all on the strippers

I did alright. xwhistlex Got burned out working for a public accounting firm so went to work with my hands. When drilling flamed out in 2015, back to bean counting. The little miss is a CPA also, and we're DINKs (dual income, no kids) so I'm pushing hard to be retired at 55 in Costa Rica. xshakefistx

[caribbeanhen]

I did alright. xwhistlex Got burned out working for a public accounting firm so went to work with my hands. When drilling flamed out in 2015, back to bean counting. The little miss is a CPA also, and we're DINKs (dual income, no kids) so I'm pushing hard to be retired at 55 in Costa Rica. xshakefistx

check out law 22 ... taxes

lots of people moving to Puerto Rico to take advantage

similar to Costs Rica and no passport required but maybe a bullet proof vest

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I did alright. xwhistlex Got burned out working for a public accounting firm so went to work with my hands. When drilling flamed out in 2015, back to bean counting. The little miss is a CPA also, and we're DINKs (dual income, no kids) so I'm pushing hard to be retired at 55 in Costa Rica. xshakefistx

check out law 22 ... taxes

lots of people moving to Puerto Rico to take advantage

similar to Costs Rica and no passport required but maybe a bullet proof vest

[MSUBobcat]

check out law 22 ... taxes

lots of people moving to Puerto Rico to take advantage

similar to Costs Rica and no passport required but maybe a bullet proof vest

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check out law 22 ... taxes

lots of people moving to Puerto Rico to take advantage

similar to Costs Rica and no passport required but maybe a bullet proof vest

How's the cost of living? First discovered Costa Rica in 2008 when I went down with a buddy who was scoping it out to buy a place. He got a 2 BR, 2 BA in a "gated" community. Each 8-unit pod gets their own pool. Paid $100k. Unfortunately, too many pricks have discovered CR so the price is going up, and I've been considering Panama, Ecuador. Costa Rica has been my goal for over a decade, but I'm getting late to the party....

[caribbeanhen]

How's the cost of living? First discovered Costa Rica in 2008 when I went down with a buddy who was scoping it out to buy a place. He got a 2 BR, 2 BA in a "gated" community. Each 8-unit pod gets their own pool. Paid $100k. Unfortunately, too many pricks have discovered CR so the price is going up, and I've been considering Panama, Ecuador. Costa Rica has been my goal for over a decade, but I'm getting late to the party....

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?171679-The-Caribbean-Island-with-3-5-million-U-S-Citizens-nobody-cares-about/page69

come over here if you wanna chat about Puerto Rico

[Mfergy4]

Wow, what a thread to digest; everything from Mud slinging statements to Costa Rica retirement plans...must be a Bison vs another good team thread. xthumbsupx Judging by the Numbers Chaos was so kind to provide us in the first post, on paper this will be a very close and hard fought game. I was privileged to both watch the Bison and Montana St semi games, thank you MIDCO...sorry for your Disney+ users. The Cats were able to slow down Isiah but Pierre seemed to do okay for SDSU against the M-State D. Lots of miss reads by the Oladokan in the passing game. M-State QB is a handful and SDSU never adjusted to M-States schemes. M-State throws those 50/50 balls against DB's who look back and its going to be a day of INT's.
JMU schemed to stop T Williams for the Bison from running, and NDSU WR may block well but they are dropping balls they should catch. JMU had no clue who #44 was but they learned the hard way. Luepke is another Tyler Rohl; big bruising Fullback, turned Tailback with speed and hands.
I foresee this game being hard and bruising. Both team Coach's have the same philosophy, Tuff Defense, run the ball, and throw when necessary. Difference in this game...Frisco. Bison been there done that and know how to block out the distractions. Can Vigen do that with this team? Tommy TD said he would prepare for this game like any other. I say please do. Bison 24 and Montana St 10. Depth of the bench and the crowd will be the difference for the Bison.

[100%GRIZ]

I did alright. xwhistlex Got burned out working for a public accounting firm so went to work with my hands. When drilling flamed out in 2015, back to bean counting. The little miss is a CPA also, and we're DINKs (dual income, no kids) so I'm pushing hard to be retired at 55 in Costa Rica. xshakefistx
We are dinks as well and retired but would not leave MT!

[MSUBobcat]

Wow, what a thread to digest; everything from Mud slinging statements to Costa Rica retirement plans...must be a Bison vs another good team thread. xthumbsupx Judging by the Numbers Chaos was so kind to provide us in the first post, on paper this will be a very close and hard fought game. I was privileged to both watch the Bison and Montana St semi games, thank you MIDCO...sorry for your Disney+ users. The Cats were able to slow down Isiah but Pierre seemed to do okay for SDSU against the M-State D. Lots of miss reads by the Oladokan in the passing game. M-State QB is a handful and SDSU never adjusted to M-States schemes. M-State throws those 50/50 balls against DB's who look back and its going to be a day of INT's.
JMU schemed to stop T Williams for the Bison from running, and NDSU WR may block well but they are dropping balls they should catch. JMU had no clue who #44 was but they learned the hard way. Luepke is another Tyler Rohl; big bruising Fullback, turned Tailback with speed and hands.
I foresee this game being hard and bruising. Both team Coach's have the same philosophy, Tuff Defense, run the ball, and throw when necessary. Difference in this game...Frisco. Bison been there done that and know how to block out the distractions. Can Vigen do that with this team? Tommy TD said he would prepare for this game like any other. I say please do. Bison 24 and Montana St 10. Depth of the bench and the crowd will be the difference for the Bison.

Strong got 44 yards from 1 play and had 50 yards on 13 carries otherwise (3.85 ypc which isn't bad, but not great). Obviously, it did happen but if Webb takes a better angle, it's a 5 yard gain.

Mellott has more to his arm than 50-50 balls. Some of those passes were darts. I don't know how much he got to throw to the receivers during the regular season with McKay as the starter and Rovig as the backup, but he'll get 3 more weeks to get on the same page with the receivers, so he may surprise. He went from 8 of 20 for 51 yards (albeit in terrible conditions for the passing game, 35 mph winds) to 6/11 for 165 and 2 TD vs Sam to 10/15 for 233 yards and 2 TD. I expect him to continue to improve, obviously offset by playing a better defense.

From what I've heard, Oladokun is better than NDSU's QB(s), so if we can stymie the run (no easy task, I know), I like our chances.

I wouldn't count on NDSU having a huge advantage in the crowd. I think it was Professor Chaos that predicted a 60-40 split favoring the Bison and I think that sounds pretty close.

On paper, it has the makings of a very physical game. Here's to both teams coming in healed up and everyone staying that way.

[IowaBison2]

Fixed your post xcoffeex







Edit: That's what I get for scanning posts to catch up - you were making the same point in response to Bear's comment originally about Luepke.

I'm really looking forward to this game. Should be fun.

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[MSUBobcat]

We are dinks as well and retired but would not leave MT!

Cost of living in MT is higher, so I'd have to work longer. Game plan is to work til 55 and live as long as the money takes me. The day I'm down to $5, I'll buy one last beer and walk into the ocean. Bloop bloop bloop. I have no desire to live past 75 or so, and damn sure no desire to work away all my "good" years and retire for the years I don't even want.

[Professor Chaos]

Strong got 44 yards from 1 play and had 50 yards on 13 carries otherwise (3.85 ypc which isn't bad, but not great). Obviously, it did happen but if Webb takes a better angle, it's a 5 yard gain.

Mellott has more to his arm than 50-50 balls. Some of those passes were darts. I don't know how much he got to throw to the receivers during the regular season with McKay as the starter and Rovig as the backup, but he'll get 3 more weeks to get on the same page with the receivers, so he may surprise. He went from 8 of 20 for 51 yards (albeit in terrible conditions for the passing game, 35 mph winds) to 6/11 for 165 and 2 TD vs Sam to 10/15 for 233 yards and 2 TD. I expect him to continue to improve, obviously offset by playing a better defense.

From what I've heard, Oladokun is better than NDSU's QB(s), so if we can stymie the run (no easy task, I know), I like our chances.

I wouldn't count on NDSU having a huge advantage in the crowd. I think it was Professor Chaos that predicted a 60-40 split favoring the Bison and I think that sounds pretty close.

On paper, it has the makings of a very physical game. Here's to both teams coming in healed up and everyone staying that way.
I think it'll be 60/40 at most in favor of the Bison.... could be more like 50/50. Depends on how many Bison fans bought tickets early since I think that number was fewer this year than it had been in the past so there may or may not be a good mix of Bobcat fans in the "neutral" sections.

[MSUBobcat]

I think it'll be 60/40 at most in favor of the Bison.... could be more like 50/50. Depends on how many Bison fans bought tickets early since I think that number was fewer this year than it had been in the past so there may or may not be a good mix of Bobcat fans in the "neutral" sections.

The fervor among the Bobcat fanbase is palpable given it's our first time playing for a title since 1984. I have no doubt we'd outnumber the Bison fans IF we had known we'd be in the chipper when the seats first went on sale. We'll be limited to how many we can get our hands on since so many Bison fans purchase them early on the expectation that they'll be playing in Frisco.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

The fervor among the Bobcat fanbase is palpable given it's our first time playing for a title since 1984. I have no doubt we'd outnumber the Bison fans IF we had known we'd be in the chipper when the seats first went on sale. We'll be limited to how many we can get our hands on since so many Bison fans purchase them early on the expectation that they'll be playing in Frisco.



This is NDSU's 9th time going to the title game. I doubt as many Bison fans bought tickets early compared to early title games IMO.

[SeattleCat]

I hope losing 2 defensive coaches doesn't cause a distraction for our D. Would have been really nice to keep a lid on that until after the Natty...

[MSUBobcat]

This is NDSU's 9th time going to the title game. I doubt as many Bison fans bought tickets early compared to early title games IMO.

I hope you're right. The less demand for the secondary market, the cheaper I'm going to find tickets as the game approaches. Now to find transportation for a reasonable price..... xchinscratchx

[Gil Dobie]

The fervor among the Bobcat fanbase is palpable given it's our first time playing for a title since 1984. I have no doubt we'd outnumber the Bison fans IF we had known we'd be in the chipper when the seats first went on sale. We'll be limited to how many we can get our hands on since so many Bison fans purchase them early on the expectation that they'll be playing in Frisco.

My Brother bought his early. I Bought mine after the Bison beat JMU, still close to face value. Figured Montana St win would raise the demand and price. I also put in for the season ticket ones for other family members that decided late.

[Catbooster]

Ironic thing is Darby, MT where the real Chief Joseph Ranch is at that they use as the Yellowstone in the show is much closer to Missoula than Bozeman. But I believe the show itself is supposed to be set in the Yellowstone River valley just north of the north entrance to the national park and just a bit SE of Bozeman.
I've tried to figure out where it's supposed to be set - I think I recall some dialog implying basically what you said - but they are extremely geography challenged. The ranch seems to jump around from one area to another depending on the scene/needs of the script. Want that character in a meeting in Helena next scene - it's only a 20 min drive. Need to go to the "train station"? It's only an hour or two to Wyoming. Ignoring the fact that there's no reservation anywhere close to Bozeman.

Like virtually everything else in the show, it's best to not try to think about the details too much and just enjoy the ride.

[Hammerhead]

NDSU used to book three charter flights to Frisco for fans and this year there is only one and it isn't sold out yet.


This is NDSU's 9th time going to the title game. I doubt as many Bison fans bought tickets early compared to early title games IMO.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

NDSU used to book three charter flights to Frisco for fans and this year there is only one and it isn't sold out yet.


I've taken 1 charter and 1 flight down in all the games. I prefer to drive but I am use to it with what I do for a living.

NDSU will have a good turnout for this game, like they always do. I lean towards what PC said about the 60/40 split.

[MSUBobcat]

I've tried to figure out where it's supposed to be set - I think I recall some dialog implying basically what you said - but they are extremely geography challenged. The ranch seems to jump around from one area to another depending on the scene/needs of the script. Want that character in a meeting in Helena next scene - it's only a 20 min drive. Need to go to the "train station"? It's only an hour or two to Wyoming. Ignoring the fact that there's no reservation anywhere close to Bozeman.

Like virtually everything else in the show, it's best to not try to think about the details too much and just enjoy the ride.

I got hung up on the details not at all matching reality in the episode or 2 I watched and couldn't get into it. Is it worth actually watching as someone very familiar with the area?

[Catbooster]

I got hung up on the details not at all matching reality in the episode or 2 I watched and couldn't get into it. Is it worth actually watching as someone very familiar with the area?
My wife and I started watching it since it's set in the Bozeman area, ranching, etc. (as noted by PC the ranch buildings are actually near Darby and probably only half of the Bozeman exterior shots are actually Bozeman, seems I heard some of it is filmed in Utah). It seemed like it would be something different than the standard cop show or doctor drama and we both grew up on ranches/farms. We kept watching a number of episodes in the hope it would get better (it was kinda fun to identify some familiar places in some of the scenes). We almost gave up on it a few times - some of the things are pretty preposterous, don't make sense why you'd do that, writers obviously haven't been around horses or cattle much, etc. We started enjoying it when we gave up on trying to view it as a realistic drama and started viewing it as an action show with bits of comic relief set on a ranch in Montana (comic relief like a bad movie - so dumb it's funny). Then you can enjoy the characters and the story. We actually enjoy it now.

It's hugely popular, so we're probably a distinct minority in how we derive our entertainment from it. But as I told my wife, if I was a guy that cooked meth in New Mexico, I might have felt the same way about Breaking Bad (I don't know anything about it so I don't have preconceived notions and don't know if something in the plot is preposterous). I recommend the show now (wouldn't have before we changed our attitude) but try not to think too much while watching it.

[Catbooster]

I've taken 1 charter and 1 flight down in all the games. I prefer to drive but I am use to it with what I do for a living.

NDSU will have a good turnout for this game, like they always do. I lean towards what PC said about the 60/40 split.
That's probably not far off (60/40). Almost half of the crowd is from the allotments (9,000 combined of 20,500 capacity) and should be even. 60/40 would mean roughly 2:1 with the rest of the tickets.

[MSUBobcat]

That's probably not far off (60/40). Almost half of the crowd is from the allotments (9,000 combined of 20,500 capacity) and should be even. 60/40 would mean roughly 2:1 with the rest of the tickets.

I didn't know the schools got that many tickets, thanks. Was thinking they'd get 2,500 each.

For those that have been.... any idea what the price range will be once things have settled down and the price-gouging scalpers are trying to unload in the last week or so?

[TribeNomad1]

My wife and I started watching it since it's set in the Bozeman area, ranching, etc. (as noted by PC the ranch buildings are actually near Darby and probably only half of the Bozeman exterior shots are actually Bozeman, seems I heard some of it is filmed in Utah). It seemed like it would be something different than the standard cop show or doctor drama and we both grew up on ranches/farms. We kept watching a number of episodes in the hope it would get better (it was kinda fun to identify some familiar places in some of the scenes). We almost gave up on it a few times - some of the things are pretty preposterous, don't make sense why you'd do that, writers obviously haven't been around horses or cattle much, etc. We started enjoying it when we gave up on trying to view it as a realistic drama and started viewing it as an action show with bits of comic relief set on a ranch in Montana (comic relief like a bad movie - so dumb it's funny). Then you can enjoy the characters and the story. We actually enjoy it now.

It's hugely popular, so we're probably a distinct minority in how we derive our entertainment from it. But as I told my wife, if I was a guy that cooked meth in New Mexico, I might have felt the same way about Breaking Bad (I don't know anything about it so I don't have preconceived notions and don't know if something in the plot is preposterous). I recommend the show now (wouldn't have before we changed our attitude) but try not to think too much while watching it.

A woman in my office told me how much she liked it, so I checked it out. Did not like it at first, had a hard time with Costner in the role. Got into it later, but cannot take too literally or seriously, just good vulgar, violent Sunday evening TV.

[swaghook]

I didn't know the schools got that many tickets, thanks. Was thinking they'd get 2,500 each.

For those that have been.... any idea what the price range will be once things have settled down and the price-gouging scalpers are trying to unload in the last week or so? pretty much face value in the tailgate lots just before the game.

[MSUBobcat]

pretty much face value in the tailgate lots just before the game.

I appreciate the info! Especially since it's good news. I'll hopefully buy some about a week before just to be safe, but it's good to know they'll be coming down quite a bit.

[Chalupa Batman]

I appreciate the info! Especially since it's good news. I'll hopefully buy some about a week before just to be safe, but it's good to know they'll be coming down quite a bit.

I just looked at available tickets on the app and they are ranging from $500-$1500. They will coming waaaay down.

[POD Knows]

I just looked at available tickets on the app and they are ranging from $500-$1500. They will coming waaaay down.
At the second natty against SHSU I lost my ticket in the tailgating lot. Walked up to the stadium and bought one for 10 and that place was packed. If I was planning to go down and didn’t have a ticket I would go anyway. There are always tickets floating around to get in.

[kcstorm]

All I can say is that I would like to see Beth as a guest on The Five. That would be epic.

[Preferred Walk-On]

I just looked at available tickets on the app and they are ranging from $500-$1500. They will coming waaaay down.

Once standing room only tickets are released, the prices drop. However, will they be releasing SRO tickets this year? Honestly, I have not really been paying much attention.


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[Preferred Walk-On]

My wife and I started watching it since it's set in the Bozeman area, ranching, etc. (as noted by PC the ranch buildings are actually near Darby and probably only half of the Bozeman exterior shots are actually Bozeman, seems I heard some of it is filmed in Utah). It seemed like it would be something different than the standard cop show or doctor drama and we both grew up on ranches/farms. We kept watching a number of episodes in the hope it would get better (it was kinda fun to identify some familiar places in some of the scenes). We almost gave up on it a few times - some of the things are pretty preposterous, don't make sense why you'd do that, writers obviously haven't been around horses or cattle much, etc. We started enjoying it when we gave up on trying to view it as a realistic drama and started viewing it as an action show with bits of comic relief set on a ranch in Montana (comic relief like a bad movie - so dumb it's funny). Then you can enjoy the characters and the story. We actually enjoy it now.

It's hugely popular, so we're probably a distinct minority in how we derive our entertainment from it. But as I told my wife, if I was a guy that cooked meth in New Mexico, I might have felt the same way about Breaking Bad (I don't know anything about it so I don't have preconceived notions and don't know if something in the plot is preposterous). I recommend the show now (wouldn't have before we changed our attitude) but try not to think too much while watching it.

Really just a 2021 version of Dallas, but enjoy it just the same.


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[Chalupa Batman]

Once standing room only tickets are released, the prices drop. However, will they be releasing SRO tickets this year? Honestly, I have not really been paying much attention.


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I think they usually do. They would be dumb not to this year with demand as high as it is.

[bob12]

I was lucky enough to head the warnings of others and pre-bought tickets the week before the semifinal game. I have been trying to talk my friends off the ledge from buying these over priced tickets and just waiting for lower prices ever since. I do hope that everyone that truly wants to go, goes and either lucks out prior to the game or at least at the stadium before kickoff. It's gonna be one fun ride no matter what.

[Chalupa Batman]

I was lucky enough to head the warnings of others and pre-bought tickets the week before the semifinal game. I have been trying to talk my friends off the ledge from buying these over priced tickets and just waiting for lower prices ever since. I do hope that everyone that truly wants to go, goes and either lucks out prior to the game or at least at the stadium before kickoff. It's gonna be one fun ride no matter what.

Get everyone to go that you can, there’s so much going on that they should have a good time even if they don’t snag a ticket (and they should be able to snag one). Going out to the bars on Friday night, and/or Thursday night, tailgating in the morning before the game. Just remember that tailgating will start well before the posted start time.

[bob12]

Get everyone to go that you can, there’s so much going on that they should have a good time even if they don’t snag a ticket (and they should be able to snag one). Going out to the bars on Friday night, and/or Thursday night, tailgating in the morning before the game. Just remember that tailgating will start well before the posted start time.

Nice to know! I believe I should be travelling strong with around 20 MSU grads (currently) ranging from the late 70s to the 2010 years. So the plan is to have a great time regardless. I am sure other Bobcats besides myself are all appreciative of all the advice given by you Bison faithful.

[Chalupa Batman]

Nice to know! I believe I should be travelling strong with around 20 MSU grads (currently) ranging from the late 70s to the 2010 years. So the plan is to have a great time regardless. I am sure other Bobcats besides myself are all appreciative of all the advice given by you Bison faithful.

I don’t know when you guys are planning on coming but there are plenty of fans out at the bars leading up to Saturday. Wednesday is pretty decent but Thursday and Friday they are pretty packed. Hope to meet a bunch of you guys, always enjoy hanging out with fans of other teams.

[bob12]

I don’t know when you guys are planning on coming but there are plenty of fans out at the bars leading up to Saturday. Wednesday is pretty decent but Thursday and Friday they are pretty packed. Hope to meet a bunch of you guys, always enjoy hanging out with fans of other teams.

Some of us will be there Thursday. Look forward to tracking the crowds down. Hopefully there is enough Canadian whiskey available.

[Chalupa Batman]

Some of us will be there Thursday. Look forward to tracking the crowds down. Hopefully there is enough Canadian whiskey available.

xbeerchugx

[Bisonoline]

I don’t know when you guys are planning on coming but there are plenty of fans out at the bars leading up to Saturday. Wednesday is pretty decent but Thursday and Friday they are pretty packed. Hope to meet a bunch of you guys, always enjoy hanging out with fans of other teams.

I will be getting in Late Monday night. Ready to hit our favorite restaurants starting on Tuesday.:D

[Chalupa Batman]

I will be getting in Late Monday night. Ready to hit our favorite restaurants starting on Tuesday.:D

We'll be getting in Wednesday around mid afternoon, about a day earlier than usual. Excited to hit our couple of favorites along with exploring some other options.

[Bisonoline]

We'll be getting in Wednesday around mid afternoon, about a day earlier than usual. Excited to hit our couple of favorites along with exploring some other options.

What are your favs??????

[Chalupa Batman]

What are your favs??????

For BBQ we always hit Hard Eight, for us it's easily the best we've had down there of the ones we've tried. And then we try to hit one or two new BBQ joints each time. Haven't had Pecan Lodge yet but really want to get there this year.

In the past we always gave both In N Out & Whataburger a try too. We really like In N Out but for some reason Whataburger doesn't do it for us (blasphemous I know) so I don't see us hitting that up this year.

We like wings places where you can choose from a large variety of sauces and there's one in Plano we like, Pluckers Wing Bar.

I've always wanted to try Pappadeaux but my sister-in-law doesn't do shellfish so I haven't made it there.

We've been to a few different Tex-Mex places but I can't remember which ones, my brother and his wife have a couple different friends down there and we've always gone there with them and I didn't pay enough attention. But they have all been really good.


How about you, what are your favorites?

[Professor Chaos]

Could Montana St end up facing a 3rd straight lame duck OC???

https://twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/1473663236687941633

[acbearkat]

Could Montana St end up facing a 3rd straight lame duck OC???

https://twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/1473663236687941633

That would be a head scratching hire if it came to fruition.


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[Gil Dobie]

For BBQ we always hit Hard Eight, for us it's easily the best we've had down there of the ones we've tried. And then we try to hit one or two new BBQ joints each time. Haven't had Pecan Lodge yet but really want to get there this year.

In the past we always gave both In N Out & Whataburger a try too. We really like In N Out but for some reason Whataburger doesn't do it for us (blasphemous I know) so I don't see us hitting that up this year.

We like wings places where you can choose from a large variety of sauces and there's one in Plano we like, Pluckers Wing Bar.

I've always wanted to try Pappadeaux but my sister-in-law doesn't do shellfish so I haven't made it there.

We've been to a few different Tex-Mex places but I can't remember which ones, my brother and his wife have a couple different friends down there and we've always gone there with them and I didn't pay enough attention. But they have all been really good.


How about you, what are your favorites?

In and Out for sure. I'll be in the Dallas area for a couple months, so I'll get to try a few places.

[Professor Chaos]

That would be a head scratching hire if it came to fruition.


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Roehl is a better coach than many of my Bison fan brethren give him credit for. He's definitely an up-and-comer. Recruiting ties would be a big question mark though... he doesn't have any in SOCON country so he'd have to do a good job filling his staff with recruiters from that area of the country. Interesting that another candidate supposedly interviewed was former NFL head coach Jeff Fisher... talk about polar opposites when it comes to age and ties to the area.

[POD Knows]

For BBQ we always hit Hard Eight, for us it's easily the best we've had down there of the ones we've tried. And then we try to hit one or two new BBQ joints each time. Haven't had Pecan Lodge yet but really want to get there this year.

In the past we always gave both In N Out & Whataburger a try too. We really like In N Out but for some reason Whataburger doesn't do it for us (blasphemous I know) so I don't see us hitting that up this year.

We like wings places where you can choose from a large variety of sauces and there's one in Plano we like, Pluckers Wing Bar.

I've always wanted to try Pappadeaux but my sister-in-law doesn't do shellfish so I haven't made it there.

We've been to a few different Tex-Mex places but I can't remember which ones, my brother and his wife have a couple different friends down there and we've always gone there with them and I didn't pay enough attention. But they have all been really good.


How about you, what are your favorites?
I am going to give props to the Hard 8 as well. I have eaten at a lot of the BBQ places in the north DFW metro area and I thought it was as good as any of the ones I have been too. No comment on the fast food burger joints. I avoid those places like the plaque.

[dewey]

I am going to give props to the Hard 8 as well. I have eaten at a lot of the BBQ places in the north DFW metro area and I thought it was as good as any of the ones I have been too. No comment on the fast food burger joints. I avoid those places like the plaque.

We will have to give Hard Eight BBQ. We always go to Hutchins Saturday night after the game.

I also plan to try Pecan Lodge this year.

Dewey

[POD Knows]

We will have to give Hard Eight BBQ. We always go to Hutchins Saturday night after the game.

I also plan to try Pecan Lodge this year.

Dewey
I havent been to the Pecan Lodge. I have been to Hutchins. I thought it was real good but my wife thought the Brisket was too fatty but she would rather eat sawdust dry meat than meat with a little marbling so her opinion isn’t real good on this subject. I ate at the Hard 8 over in the Colony area. We stayed at the Holiday Inn over there. They have a jalapeño corn at the Hard 8 that is really good.


Let us know if you find a decent Mexican joint there. Ate at a couple Mexican places, can’t remember the names but one was just east of the interstate just south of Frisco and it was terrible.

[Chalupa Batman]

We will have to give Hard Eight BBQ. We always go to Hutchins Saturday night after the game.

I also plan to try Pecan Lodge this year.

Dewey

I've had Hutchins along with a few others, they're all good but don't stick out as great to me like Hard Eight does.

[dewey]

I havent been to the Pecan Lodge. I have been to Hutchins. I thought it was real good but my wife thought the Brisket was too fatty but she would rather eat sawdust dry meat than meat with a little marbling so her opinion isn’t real good on this subject. I ate at the Hard 8 over in the Colony area. We stayed at the Holiday Inn over there. They have a jalapeño corn at the Hard 8 that is really good.


Let us know if you find a decent Mexican joint there. Ate at a couple Mexican places, can’t remember the names but one was just east of the interstate just south of Frisco and it was terrible.

I think Bisonoline has mentioned Pecan Lodge before. We are going to try Pecan Lodge and Hard Eights this year. Then go to Hutchins Saturday after the game

My oldest son loves the chooped brisket from Hutchins but I prefer the moist brisket (nice and juicy).

I texted a friend that lives near Frisco about Mexican food. I will let you all know what he says.

Edit....he said Mexican Sugar is good in Plano.


I've had Hutchins along with a few others, they're all good but don't stick out as great to me like Hard Eight does.

We will make sure to try it this year. Thanks for the recommendation.

Dewey

[dewey]

For those of you driving down is there anywhere cool you would receive to stop and see?

We are driving down and we are going to take our time to stop and see cool stuff.

We also plan to do a tour at AT&T and also go to the Fort Worth stockyards.

Dewey

[MSUBobcat]

Could Montana St end up facing a 3rd straight lame duck OC???

https://twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/1473663236687941633

Wow. Lame duck OC vs. lame duck DC?

[POD Knows]

For those of you driving down is there anywhere cool you would receive to stop and see?

We are driving down and we are going to take our time to stop and see cool stuff.

We also plan to do a tour at AT&T and also go to the Fort Worth stockyards.

Dewey
Go to Pitcher, OK on the way back. The countries largest EPA Superfund site. Had a couple friends of mine go through there on the way back home. Said it was eerie.

[dewey]

Wow. Lame duck OC vs. lame duck DC?

Here are some of the names on the coaching search.
https://www.johnsoncitypress.com/sports/north-dakota-state-offensive-coordinator-interviews-for-etsu-job/article_417ab980-62cd-11ec-963d-8b4f49b5da53.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Dewey

[dewey]

Go to Pitcher, OK on the way back. The countries largest EPA Superfund site. Had a couple friends of mine go through there on the way back home. Said it was eerie.

Dang. I just read about Pitcher on Wikipedia. No thanks.

Edit....POD when are you changing your avatar back?

Dewey

[MSUBobcat]

I really appreciate all the info being shared here, from ticket prices to restaurants to when to show up. Currently trying to arrange getting there Thursday but it's looking like it might be late Thursday (flight lands around 11pm). Unfortunately, it's my company's payroll week and being the first of the year, it takes a bit longer to make sure I have everyone's payroll deductions correct. Seems like only a handful are making any changes to this year's elections and the prices of most aren't changing, but still have to update the deductions for 50 employees, reconcile it, and hope I didn't fat finger anything to necessitate going thru each one a second (or third) time. If I can get everyone to turn in their timecards for the last week of 2021 to the payroll entry gal by Monday morning and she gets cracking, I may be able to have it done Wednesday. If the party starts Thursday.... that's where I need to be.

[Chalupa Batman]

In and Out for sure. I'll be in the Dallas area for a couple months, so I'll get to try a few places.

Yeah I really like In N Out. I've given Whataburger quite a few tries and I don't get all the hype for it. It's good it's just nothing special.

[MSUBobcat]

Here are some of the names on the coaching search.
https://www.johnsoncitypress.com/sports/north-dakota-state-offensive-coordinator-interviews-for-etsu-job/article_417ab980-62cd-11ec-963d-8b4f49b5da53.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Dewey

I'd much rather have my coaches be under consideration over already hired. I imagine the focus is sharper in that the chipper could be looked at as a job interview/resume stuffer vs. the short-timers syndrome of someone who already has the next job locked down. That said... being professionals and it also being a championship, I don't know that it would have a lot of effect on your preparation. I think everyone in both programs is laser-focused on the task at hand.

[POD Knows]

Dang. I just read about Pitcher on Wikipedia. No thanks.

Edit....POD when are you changing your avatar back?

DeweyAvatar change 12:01 am January 1, 2022.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I have a little college basketball/golf trip scheduled for the week of 1/2-1/9 but I'm not counting on any of the basketball games I was scheduled to attend happening. This will be a gamble for all those who are committed to attend the FCS Title game imo.

Thankfully, I don't see golf courses being shutdown so that will be my focus....

[MSUBobcat]

I have a little college basketball/golf trip scheduled for the week of 1/2-1/9 but I'm not counting on any of the basketball games I was scheduled to attend happening. This will be a gamble for all those who are committed to attend the FCS Title game imo.

Thankfully, I don't see golf courses being shutdown so that will be my focus....

Did Texas shut down much for Covid.... EVER? Texas or Florida are probably 2 of the states I'm the LEAST worried about closing down to crowded events.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Did Texas shut down much for Covid.... EVER? Texas or Florida are probably 2 of the states I'm the LEAST worried about closing down to crowded events.

Texas A&M just pulled out of the Gator Bowl due to Covid...

The CFP instituted a "rule" stating a team will win the title via a forfeit if there's a Covid issue. When it comes to FCS the teams still have to follow certain protocols and the NCAA has their own policies relating to championship events. The game being played in Texas means nothing imo...

Just of note, one of the CFP Semifinals is the Cotton Bowl which is played in Texas....