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Professor Chaos
November 27th, 2021, 06:43 PM
Game kicks off at 2PM MT on Saturday 12/4.

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MSUWineGuy
November 27th, 2021, 07:58 PM
MSU will destroy them. UTM has some swagger and hot headed players. Couple really impressive receivers and pretty solid defense. On the other hand they only beat MSU by one after being gifted with six turnovers. Curious to see this game and see if UTM can pull another upset.

ElCid
November 27th, 2021, 08:13 PM
MSU will destroy them. UTM has some swagger and hot headed players. Couple really impressive receivers and pretty solid defense. On the other hand they only beat MSU by one after being gifted with six turnovers. Curious to see this game and see if UTM can pull another upset.

I'm not sure two forced fumbles and three interceptions qualifies as "gifted," plus a turnover on downs to boot. But I could be wrong. I think only one fumble was unforced. I still think Montana St wins, but it might be harder than some think.

CopperCat
November 27th, 2021, 09:01 PM
Montana State will be the best defense UTM will have faced all year.

I think the Bobcats will do something different at QB which will make scouting more difficult. The offense has tailed off lately but they still have one of the best RBs in the country. Montana State by 20.

Go Lehigh TU owl
November 27th, 2021, 09:16 PM
I still have some significant ties to the Bozeman area so I always like to see the Bobcats do well! I think MSU wins by 13. UTM has some legit playmakers on offense, play smart, sound football. Montana State doesn't have the offense (without help) to blow this open imo.

Forecast looks favorable. They're still golfing at Black Bull....

FUBeAR
November 27th, 2021, 11:44 PM
Any chance UTM gets their Starting QB back at 100%? Doubtful, methinks.

Just checked long range forecast… 14-32 degrees w/65% chance of precipitation…frozen precipitation, of course.

Back-Up QB & Arctic climate…dangit…would go with Skyhawks otherwise…UTM didn’t play 2 non-scholarship Teams and was undefeated until they lost their Starting QB. Put the #8 ‘seed on the other (more deserving) foot’ and UTM advances….even with their backup QB.

MSUBobcat
November 28th, 2021, 12:36 AM
Any chance UTM gets their Starting QB back at 100%? Doubtful, methinks.

Just checked long range forecast… 14-32 degrees w/65% chance of precipitation…frozen precipitation, of course.

Back-Up QB & Arctic climate…dangit…would go with Skyhawks otherwise…UTM didn’t play 2 non-scholarship Teams and was undefeated until they lost their Starting QB. Put the #8 ‘seed on the other (more deserving) foot’ and UTM advances….even with their backup QB.

Arctic climate? What weather site are you using? I don't put much trust in a forecast this far out, but I'm seeing high of 41, wind 10-20mph, 30% chance of snow, ending before game time and less than an inch of accumulation.

If UTM loses, weather will be a poor excuse. I seem to remember everyone saying Coastal Carolina didn't stand a chance against Montana in the cold in 2013 and they were up 21 pts with less than 9 minutes to play before UM staged a mini comeback. And that was ACTUAL cold (-5 degrees) not a balmy 41.

uofmman1122
November 28th, 2021, 12:56 AM
Arctic climate? What weather site are you using? I don't put much trust in a forecast this far out, but I'm seeing high of 41, wind 10-20mph, 30% chance of snow, ending before game time and less than an inch of accumulation.

If UTM loses, weather will be a poor excuse. I seem to remember everyone saying Coastal Carolina didn't stand a chance against Montana in the cold in 2013 and they were up 21 pts with less than 9 minutes to play before UM staged a mini comeback. And that was ACTUAL cold (-5 degrees) not a balmy 41.
We don't need to talk about that game, or how we embarrassed ourselves hyping up how cold it was while not wearing warm clothes to show how "Montana Tough" we could be.

Pards Rule
November 28th, 2021, 07:10 AM
I still have some significant ties to the Bozeman area so I always like to see the Bobcats do well! I think MSU wins by 13. UTM has some legit playmakers on offense, play smart, sound football. Montana State doesn't have the offense (without help) to blow this open imo.

Forecast looks favorable. They're still golfing at Black Bull....

My connection to the Bobcats (and I root for them) is the National Oil Company Account VP (e.g. Texaco, Shell, Canadian Tire, all worldwide entities) at Hanna Car Wash Systems, International (OEM) in Portland, OR (at the time I was affiliated 1985-92, now moved to Houston and merged, Coleman-Hanna now) when I was a district rep in NJ, NY was an older Bobcat grad, Ron Holm. Im not sure what class he was but he passed in April 2018 after full life. We would always chat during the season how our respective teams were doing and he became a Leopard supporter of course. I poked into very SE Montana (town called Alzada) from my Mountain West trip in early Sept after watching Lafayette-Air Force game on Sept 4th so I could notch another state off my list but obviously want to see so much more. Just didnt have the time this trip. Next will be Yellowstone, Grand Tetons, Custer and driving Montana! Maybe I can see Jon Tester farming out there!

caribbeanhen
November 28th, 2021, 07:21 AM
I still have some significant ties to the Bozeman area so I always like to see the Bobcats do well! I think MSU wins by 13. UTM has some legit playmakers on offense, play smart, sound football. Montana State doesn't have the offense (without help) to blow this open imo.

Forecast looks favorable. They're still golfing at Black Bull....

totally reasonable

The Cats
November 28th, 2021, 07:46 AM
voted

CopperCat
November 28th, 2021, 08:25 AM
Any chance UTM gets their Starting QB back at 100%? Doubtful, methinks.

Just checked long range forecast… 14-32 degrees w/65% chance of precipitation…frozen precipitation, of course.

Back-Up QB & Arctic climate…dangit…would go with Skyhawks otherwise…UTM didn’t play 2 non-scholarship Teams and was undefeated until they lost their Starting QB. Put the #8 ‘seed on the other (more deserving) foot’ and UTM advances….even with their backup QB.

If you honestly think UTM was going to beat MSU with a backup QB, you know very little about how good MSU's defense really is.

kalm
November 28th, 2021, 08:45 AM
Any chance UTM gets their Starting QB back at 100%? Doubtful, methinks.

Just checked long range forecast… 14-32 degrees w/65% chance of precipitation…frozen precipitation, of course.

Back-Up QB & Arctic climate…dangit…would go with Skyhawks otherwise…UTM didn’t play 2 non-scholarship Teams and was undefeated until they lost their Starting QB. Put the #8 ‘seed on the other (more deserving) foot’ and UTM advances….even with their backup QB.

I don’t think UTM would fare much better against EWU.

MSUBobcat
November 28th, 2021, 09:34 AM
We don't need to talk about that game, or how we embarrassed ourselves hyping up how cold it was while not wearing warm clothes to show how "Montana Tough" we could be.

Didn't mean to rub salt in the wound but wholeheartedly agree all the "tough guys" going sleeveless, etc. was a poor choice. Cold weather may give a slight psychological edge in that you overcome the dread of being out in it a bit easier, but it's mostly just a mental game. If the team takes the field and just doesn't want to be there, it'll be a long day. But as CCU showed, if you get off the bus wanting to kick some ass, the cold won't stop you from doing that. I imagine getting a lead in a playoff game goes a long way toward warming a guy up.

AgentL
November 28th, 2021, 02:09 PM
Any chance UTM gets their Starting QB back at 100%? Doubtful, methinks.

Just checked long range forecast… 14-32 degrees w/65% chance of precipitation…frozen precipitation, of course.

Back-Up QB & Arctic climate…dangit…would go with Skyhawks otherwise…UTM didn’t play 2 non-scholarship Teams and was undefeated until they lost their Starting QB. Put the #8 ‘seed on the other (more deserving) foot’ and UTM advances….even with their backup QB.

LOL

Professor Chaos
November 28th, 2021, 07:22 PM
Montana St opens as a 12 point favorite on 5dimes (https://madduxsports.com/college-football-lines.php) with an O/U of 46.5.

Go Lehigh TU owl
November 28th, 2021, 08:32 PM
Montana St opens as a 12 point favorite on 5dimes (https://madduxsports.com/college-football-lines.php) with an O/U of 46.5.

12 seems right! I had the Bobcats by 13 last night. I think UTM can hang around given the Bobcats fairly pedestrian offense and the Skyhawks coaching.

This and the Holy Cross vs 'Nova feel very similar. The home teams are "decently better" but they play a style that puts them at risk of a close game....

Gil Dobie
November 29th, 2021, 08:58 AM
Bobcats won't make as many mistakes as Missouri St.

MSUBobcat
November 29th, 2021, 10:11 AM
Montana St opens as a 12 point favorite on 5dimes (https://madduxsports.com/college-football-lines.php) with an O/U of 46.5.

A bit high for my liking. Not sure I have the confidence to put a bet on that. Closer to 8.5 and I'll lay some money down. Our offense under McKay/Housewright is sputtering, but we've only had 7 TO's all year and are 9th in TO margin at +.91/game, so the factor that let UTM beat Misery State (gotta feel bad for their fans, damn) is not likely to happen this weekend.

Edit: I forgot to factor in the "arctic conditions" of the 40 degree forecast. And we should have at least double the crowd of Missouri State. Bobcats by a gazillion. xdrunkyx

MSUBobcat
November 29th, 2021, 10:18 AM
Bobcats won't make as many mistakes as Missouri St.

Dunno if there's an easy way to look, but I suspect not many teams in all of FCS have committed 6 TO's in a single game, so I'd definitely take the under on the MSU turnovers xlolx We didn't hit our 6th TO of the season until our 10th game.

nevadagriz
November 29th, 2021, 11:35 AM
bobcats by 21 this will be ugly.

FUBeAR
November 29th, 2021, 01:12 PM
Interesting reading from the UTM @ MoState thread…
This would be one of the bigger upsets of the first round if UT-Martin pulled it off.
Bears come out with a chip on their shoulder for being snubbed a seeded place at the Bye Week table. Stats look even but against different levels of competition. MoSt bears by 14 over UT Martin.
This could be a 30 point blowout.
Missouri State is probably the best team playing this week (they should've been a seed), and UTM is just a good-but-not-great team with 0 notable wins. The Bears should win pretty easy.
Missouri St opens as 16.5 point favorites on 5dimes (https://madduxsports.com/college-football-lines.php). O/U of 59.5.
Mo state gets it in gear this will be a blow out.
If Keon Howard doesn't play, the Skyhawks are in for a world of trouble. With him, they might have a chance to make things close. I think they have the right pieces to stay on the field against the Bears' defense. If Howard doesn't suit up, though, they might as well install a mercy rule.
Missouri State might be a bit of a Frisco sleeper. UT-Martin is a good team but that recent loss is hard to get over. I'm with most who think the Bears win comfortably. I think I might have picked this one in the 45-27 range on the pick'em....
UTM has some athletes but I would be SHOCKED to see them beat Montana State. Missouri State played their worst game in two years in all aspects from playcalling to execution and still was driving for the win to end the game.
…if Mitchell doesn't botch that punt return at the 5 at the end of the 1st quarter, this is likely a vastly different outcome.

Poll Results: Who wins?
Voters 62.

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8.06%
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Missouri State 57 (https://www.anygivensaturday.com/poll.php?pollid=2320&do=showresults)
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Chalupa Batman
November 29th, 2021, 01:20 PM
The crazy thing about last week was UT Martin had forced only 16 turnovers all year and Missouri State had committed only 14 themselves. I don't see lightning striking twice like that for the Skyhawks, and Montana State will grind out a 23-13 type victory.

Gil Dobie
November 29th, 2021, 10:29 PM
Interesting reading from the UTM @ MoState thread…

Poll Results: Who wins?
Voters 62.

UT Martin 5 (https://www.anygivensaturday.com/poll.php?pollid=2320&do=showresults)

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Missouri State 57 (https://www.anygivensaturday.com/poll.php?pollid=2320&do=showresults)
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Good win by T-Martin.

Who did FUBear vote for?

MSUWineGuy
November 30th, 2021, 07:27 AM
Better have your security ramped up. The UTM offensive coordinator had multiple MSU students thrown out of the game on Saturday for heckling during one of their position group sideline meetings.

MSUBobcat
November 30th, 2021, 10:46 AM
Better have your security ramped up. The UTM offensive coordinator had multiple MSU students thrown out of the game on Saturday for heckling during one of their position group sideline meetings.

Students don't get sideline seats. I have no knowledge of if/why students were thrown out of the game, but an assistant coach tweeted that the students poured beer on the team (https://twitter.com/CoachMattJones/status/1464768393391837190?s=20), not heckling. If you throw beer on the opposition, you should absolutely be thrown out.

We have 4th row seats behind the UTM sideline, and I'm very much looking forward to some friendly.... banter. One of my favorite playoff memories was getting some seats in the Furman section in 2006 (I assume they opened up after Furman couldn't sell their allotment). We actually had a great time with their fans, which tamed our heckling as immature recent college grads. They "educated" us that they used to be the Furman University Christian Knights, turning us into quasi-Furman fans, yelling, "Let's go F U C K's!" (We were in our early 20's, give us a break!)

MSUBobcat
November 30th, 2021, 11:01 AM
Interesting reading from the UTM @ MoState thread…

Poll Results: Who wins?
Voters 62.

UT Martin 5 (https://www.anygivensaturday.com/poll.php?pollid=2320&do=showresults)

8.06%
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And? They could play 9 more times and it's highly unlikely that MO St. turns the ball over 6 times. UTM needed every single one of them to win. As I mentioned, eliminating a single unforced error (botched PR), which is a fairly rare occurrence, and UTM loses. Misery played a game where they did almost nothing right and STILL almost won. With how bad they played, a really good team would have dump trucked them. Instead... 1 single point.

Again, the irony of being on a website named after the premise that the weaker team has a chance to win any single game and thinking that the results of that 1 game meaning the victor is the better team is palpable. Perhaps we should change the name from AGS to "every Saturday the better team ALWAYS wins". It's a bit clunky and doesn't roll off the tongue, but at least it matches your conclusion....

Go Lehigh TU owl
November 30th, 2021, 11:08 AM
Interesting reading from the UTM @ MoState thread…

Poll Results: Who wins?
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I'll happily live with my take! I gave UTM credit but simply didn't take into account the turnovers. Figured both teams would put up points with the Bears winning by a "respectable margin", not a blowout....

I have UTM playing tough this week but ultimately come up short in Bozeman. The Bobcats defense is one of the best in FCS. Their offense? Not so much....

FUBeAR
November 30th, 2021, 11:18 AM
We have 4th row seats behind the UTM sideline, and I'm very much looking forward to some friendly.... banter. One of my favorite playoff memories was getting some seats in the Furman section in 2006 (I assume they opened up after Furman couldn't sell their allotment). We actually had a great time with their fans, which tamed our heckling as immature recent college grads. They "educated" us that they used to be the Furman University Christian Knights, turning us into quasi-Furman fans, yelling, "Let's go F U C K's!" (We were in our early 20's, give us a break!)But…were you sure that wasn’t the South Carolina Gamecocks you were heckling?

ElCid
November 30th, 2021, 11:39 AM
And? They could play 9 more times and it's highly unlikely that MO St. turns the ball over 6 times. UTM needed every single one of them to win. As I mentioned, eliminating a single unforced error (botched PR), which is a fairly rare occurrence, and UTM loses. Misery played a game where they did almost nothing right and STILL almost won. With how bad they played, a really good team would have dump trucked them. Instead... 1 single point.

Again, the irony of being on a website named after the premise that the weaker team has a chance to win any single game and thinking that the results of that 1 game meaning the victor is the better team is palpable. Perhaps we should change the name from AGS to "every Saturday the better team ALWAYS wins". It's a bit clunky and doesn't roll off the tongue, but at least it matches your conclusion....

Eh, the way I have always looked at it, is that it doesn't matter who the "better team" is as a subjective evaluation. It's a bit obvious, but the only thing that matters is who the better team was for the 60 minutes of playing time that actually mattered. And if a perceived "better team" lost, then they were not prepared, either mentally, physically, emotionally, with their game planning, etc. All of which are critical components, especially in regard to consistency for real winning teams. From what I saw of them Missouri St has had some consistency problems this year. All teams do at times. So we can all speculate as to who would win 9 out of 10 times, but it doesn't work that way. It matters only in the game in question. I really had no problem with Missouri State, they deserved their at large spot, like UTM deserved their autobid, but the better team on 27 Nov won. We will see who the better team on 4 Dec is. I like Mont St at home, but it wouldn't be a stretch to see UTM pull it out.

Now when picking teams for at larges and seeds, it really is a ridiculous exercise to try and evaluate all the subjective variables and you have to stick to objective ones and whether they translate into expected results is a crap shoot. That's why I love college FB and FCS especially.

JacksFan40
November 30th, 2021, 11:42 AM
Interesting reading from the UTM @ MoState thread…

Poll Results: Who wins?
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Is this your first time ever seeing an upset in CFB?

MSUWineGuy
November 30th, 2021, 11:47 AM
Students don't get sideline seats. I have no knowledge of if/why students were thrown out of the game, but an assistant coach tweeted that the students poured beer on the team (https://twitter.com/CoachMattJones/status/1464768393391837190?s=20), not heckling. If you throw beer on the opposition, you should absolutely be thrown out.

We have 4th row seats behind the UTM sideline, and I'm very much looking forward to some friendly.... banter. One of my favorite playoff memories was getting some seats in the Furman section in 2006 (I assume they opened up after Furman couldn't sell their allotment). We actually had a great time with their fans, which tamed our heckling as immature recent college grads. They "educated" us that they used to be the Furman University Christian Knights, turning us into quasi-Furman fans, yelling, "Let's go F U C K's!" (We were in our early 20's, give us a break!)

Had not seen that report and agree on throwing out anyone throwing stuff at players, that is not acceptable.


The team appeared to really like the "UTI Skycocks" chant.

Ahh to be in college again.

catbob
November 30th, 2021, 03:32 PM
If MSU can't figure out their offense it could be a battle. MSU may be able to simply out-athlete and out-talent UT Martin though, and like others have said MSU doesn't typically turn the ball over - 7 turnovers all year. But it's easy to not turn the ball over on offense when you take zero chances... Looking forward to good game in Bozeman, hoping to wash away that Cat/Griz taste in everyone's mouth.

FUBeAR
November 30th, 2021, 03:38 PM
MSU may be able to simply out-athlete and out-talent UT Martin though

Montana State still has the same Players that FUBeAR watched play against Weber State, right?

MSUBobcat
November 30th, 2021, 04:04 PM
Montana State still has the same Players that FUBeAR watched play against Weber State, right?

UTM still has the same players that MSUBobcat watched play against Missouri State, right?

TennBison
November 30th, 2021, 04:08 PM
UTM still has the same players that MSUBobcat watched play against Missouri State, right?
BURNNNNNNNNNNN

MSUBobcat
December 1st, 2021, 09:55 AM
Arctic climate? What weather site are you using? I don't put much trust in a forecast this far out, but I'm seeing high of 41, wind 10-20mph, 30% chance of snow, ending before game time and less than an inch of accumulation.

If UTM loses, weather will be a poor excuse. I seem to remember everyone saying Coastal Carolina didn't stand a chance against Montana in the cold in 2013 and they were up 21 pts with less than 9 minutes to play before UM staged a mini comeback. And that was ACTUAL cold (-5 degrees) not a balmy 41.

And this is why I don't put much stock in a forecast a week out. Today is going to be 62 in Bozeman; unseasonably warm is putting it mildly. Saturday is looking like 55 and windy (20-30 mph) which will affect the passing game. Since neither team is a passing juggernaut, it will probably affect the kicking and field position game more than passing offense but #11 had a game for Martin so maybe a slight edge for the Bobcats?

catbob
December 1st, 2021, 01:39 PM
And this is why I don't put much stock in a forecast a week out. Today is going to be 62 in Bozeman; unseasonably warm is putting it mildly. Saturday is looking like 55 and windy (20-30 mph) which will affect the passing game. Since neither team is a passing juggernaut, it will probably affect the kicking and field position game more than passing offense but #11 had a game for Martin so maybe a slight edge for the Bobcats?

Well I'm hearing that Keon Howard their dual threat QB is out again, so Dresser Winn will be the man again and he is much more of a big, pro-style QB. He can extend plays but he isn't going to beat you with his legs.

MSUBobcat
December 1st, 2021, 02:09 PM
Well I'm hearing that Keon Howard their dual threat QB is out again, so Dresser Winn will be the man again and he is much more of a big, pro-style QB. He can extend plays but he isn't going to beat you with his legs.

With 20-30 mph winds with occasional gusts over 40, that decreases the likelihood that Winn beats us with his arm. He only completed 53.5% of his passes, with 2 TD vs 1 INT, though he did amass 272 passing yards. Williams (#11) accounted for about 2/3 of the total passing yards and it reminded me a lot of how McCutcheon was used earlier in the year - throw it up and give the big receiver a chance. He's almost exactly the same build as Cutch (6-3, 205 for Williams vs 6-3,202 for McCutcheon). I like our chances if it's our running game against their running game, especially at home. Get them into 3rd and 3-4 and I think the D gets off the field most of the time.

Bobcat99
December 1st, 2021, 04:13 PM
My connection to the Bobcats (and I root for them) is the National Oil Company Account VP (e.g. Texaco, Shell, Canadian Tire, all worldwide entities) at Hanna Car Wash Systems, International (OEM) in Portland, OR (at the time I was affiliated 1985-92, now moved to Houston and merged, Coleman-Hanna now) when I was a district rep in NJ, NY was an older Bobcat grad, Ron Holm. Im not sure what class he was but he passed in April 2018 after full life. We would always chat during the season how our respective teams were doing and he became a Leopard supporter of course. I poked into very SE Montana (town called Alzada) from my Mountain West trip in early Sept after watching Lafayette-Air Force game on Sept 4th so I could notch another state off my list but obviously want to see so much more. Just didnt have the time this trip. Next will be Yellowstone, Grand Tetons, Custer and driving Montana! Maybe I can see Jon Tester farming out there!

I don’t think even Big Sandy locals ever see Tester farming.

BNATION
December 2nd, 2021, 08:29 AM
Was impressed with UTM on Saturday, interested to see how these teams match up.

Catbooster
December 2nd, 2021, 11:55 AM
I don't think UTM has to worry about it being cold. We've got wildfires going around the state it's so warm and dry. I don't think I've ever seen so little snow in December - basically only on the mountains and not near enough there. My ski pass might end up being a waste of money if it doesn't get going.

https://www.mtpr.org/montana-news/2021-12-01/fires-near-great-falls-browning-prompt-evacuations-and-closures

MSUBobcat
December 2nd, 2021, 12:05 PM
I don't think UTM has to worry about it being cold. We've got wildfires going around the state it's so warm and dry. I don't think I've ever seen so little snow in December - basically only on the mountains and not near enough there. My ski pass might end up being a waste of money if it doesn't get going.

https://www.mtpr.org/montana-news/2021-12-01/fires-near-great-falls-browning-prompt-evacuations-and-closures

Last year's snowpack wasn't good either, which carried thru with a dry summer. If we don't get some help from Mother Nature this winter, the summer is going to be brutal for wildfires. Hell, as your link showed, it's a bad WINTER for wildfires. No doubt the crazy wind that's been accompanying this unseasonably warm weather is contributing to the current fires.

I won't gamble with a season pass over here. We've been calling Red Lodge "Rock Dodge" since I moved here 16 years ago because of the usual lack of adequate snow cover and it's only gotten worse.

Chalupa Batman
December 2nd, 2021, 04:59 PM
Um…….WTF!?!?!?

https://www.khq.com/regional/montana-state-qb-matt-mckay-enters-transfer-portal/article_96d88598-a97f-526f-82a1-5a616fc76747.html

This is real odd timing for your starting QB to be entering the transfer portal. I know he struggled in the Brawl, but he wasn't getting benched was he?

wapiti
December 2nd, 2021, 05:38 PM
Um…….WTF!?!?!?

https://www.khq.com/regional/montana-state-qb-matt-mckay-enters-transfer-portal/article_96d88598-a97f-526f-82a1-5a616fc76747.html

This is real odd timing for your starting QB to be entering the transfer portal. I know he struggled in the Brawl, but he wasn't getting benched was he?

https://twitter.com/SkylineSportsMT/status/1466533487406505984

FUBeAR
December 2nd, 2021, 05:48 PM
So…Both Teams likely w/o their Starting QB’s. Does UTM stand a chance now…or nah?

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 2nd, 2021, 06:08 PM
Wow! This is crazy! First one to 20 wins?

caribbeanhen
December 2nd, 2021, 06:15 PM
UT Martin will be the Cinderella story after they knock out Montana State

MSUBobcat
December 2nd, 2021, 06:37 PM
Um…….WTF!?!?!?

https://www.khq.com/regional/montana-state-qb-matt-mckay-enters-transfer-portal/article_96d88598-a97f-526f-82a1-5a616fc76747.html

This is real odd timing for your starting QB to be entering the transfer portal. I know he struggled in the Brawl, but he wasn't getting benched was he?

I'm reading it as he was going to be benched. TBH, I kinda wanted him to he benched anyway. We've passed for 108 or less in the last 2 games. That's not acceptable against the Griz on the road. It's inexcusable at home against Idaho. IIRC, Kalm said on the podcast we've averaged 150 yr passing over the last 4 games. He throws a REALLY ugly ball.

Chalupa Batman
December 2nd, 2021, 07:22 PM
I'm reading it as he was going to be benched. TBH, I kinda wanted him to he benched anyway. We've passed for 108 or less in the last 2 games. That's not acceptable against the Griz on the road. It's inexcusable at home against Idaho. IIRC, Kalm said on the podcast we've averaged 150 yr passing over the last 4 games. He throws a REALLY ugly ball.

Have you heard who’s going to start Saturday? Rovig is still on the roster, or is there someone else waiting in the wings?

Live4Griz
December 2nd, 2021, 07:54 PM
Have you heard who’s going to start Saturday? Rovig is still on the roster, or is there someone else waiting in the wings?

I imagine they’ll use Mellott to some extent.

FUBeAR
December 2nd, 2021, 08:04 PM
I'm reading it as he was going to be benched. TBH, I kinda wanted him to he benched anyway. We've passed for 108 or less in the last 2 games. That's not acceptable against the Griz on the road. It's inexcusable at home against Idaho. IIRC, Kalm said on the podcast we've averaged 150 yr passing over the last 4 games. He throws a REALLY ugly ball.
So, was he a bad QB or are MSU’s Coaches bad since they haven’t allowed any other QB on the roster to throw over 5 passes this season? Or, I guess there’s a 3rd option…MSU just doesn’t have ANY good QB’s. That seems doubtful.

Bobcat99
December 2nd, 2021, 08:39 PM
Um…….WTF!?!?!?

https://www.khq.com/regional/montana-state-qb-matt-mckay-enters-transfer-portal/article_96d88598-a97f-526f-82a1-5a616fc76747.html

This is real odd timing for your starting QB to be entering the transfer portal. I know he struggled in the Brawl, but he wasn't getting benched was he?

He got benched. Tommy Mellot has been running with the 1’s since the brawl.

Houndawg
December 3rd, 2021, 07:00 AM
UT Martin will be the Cinderella story after they knock out Montana State

xnodx

CopperCat
December 3rd, 2021, 07:12 AM
I don’t think even Big Sandy locals ever see Tester farming.

We got our dog from some folks in Big Sandy. They didn't have much good to say about Tester.......

MSUWineGuy
December 3rd, 2021, 11:13 AM
UT Martin will be the Cinderella story after they knock out Montana State

Can't wait to see their players try to pick fights with every single team along the road.

AgentL
December 3rd, 2021, 11:31 AM
Can't wait to see their players try to pick fights with every single team along the road.

With a Butte American at QB, UT Martin would be wise to not start any fights.

Although bias, I think the Cats come out pissed tomorrow and put together their most physical game.

FUBeAR
December 3rd, 2021, 11:50 AM
Can't wait to see their players try to pick fights with every single team along the road.
https://y.yarn.co/e6f61bb2-d67f-422f-b789-2fe43d3e49a9_text.gif

Is there an “h” omitted from your screen name?

katss07
December 3rd, 2021, 12:07 PM
Best of luck to Missouri State this weekend, I look forward to seeing them end Sam's season next week. Very scary very dangerous. They should boatrace Montana State.

Bison Fan in NW MN
December 3rd, 2021, 01:41 PM
The Montana State beat writer ( I think it was him, didn't catch the first few minutes of the interview) was on the local Bison radio show and he said the kid has his degree so maybe a grad transfer??

But even so, not the time to throw your hat into the portal IMO....xsmhx

JSUSoutherner
December 4th, 2021, 11:03 AM
Best of luck to Missouri State this weekend, I look forward to seeing them end Sam's season next week. Very scary very dangerous. They should boatrace Montana State.


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Catbooster
December 4th, 2021, 12:11 PM
I can hear the music cranked up at the stadium for awhile now. About time to leave home and get the tailgate started.

I'm eager to see who our QB is and if there have been adjustments to what the offense does (there need to be). Personally, I don't think McKay leaving will hurt us. I don't see Rovig or Mellott doing worse than he's been performing the last few games and I think the team will rally around them. If we lose, I'm inclined to think that won't be the reason. But I don't think we'll lose. We haven't been winning due to our stellar offense.

Go Cats!

Edit to clarify: I wouldn't be surprised to see a few mistakes due to a new QB - timing off, procedure penalty, an extra turnover. So I guess that would be due to the QB change, but I think managing the offense, passing accuracy, etc. won't be any worse. I guess we'll soon see.

SeattleCat
December 4th, 2021, 02:11 PM
Looking forward to seeing Tommy Mellott get the start, I think he'll run the RPO better than Mckay did.

SeattleCat
December 4th, 2021, 03:23 PM
Play calling still isn't great but I think Mellott is better than Mckay.

SeattleCat
December 4th, 2021, 03:36 PM
UTM getting away with holding WR's on routes, oline and tackling defensive lineman... Terrible refs.

SeattleCat
December 4th, 2021, 03:48 PM
Touchdown Tommy for 6!

SeattleCat
December 4th, 2021, 03:59 PM
FG Bobcats 10-0

SeattleCat
December 4th, 2021, 04:26 PM
Mellott fumbles and UTM scoops and scores
10-7

Chalupa Batman
December 4th, 2021, 04:27 PM
Skyhawks force a fumble and returns it 65 yards for a TD with 16 seconds left before halftime. 10-7 Bobcats

ElCid
December 4th, 2021, 04:42 PM
I was trying to watch this game along with the ETSU one, but got distracted for some reason. Looks like another defensive struggle.

SeattleCat
December 4th, 2021, 04:46 PM
I was trying to watch this game along with the ETSU one, but got distracted for some reason. Looks like another defensive struggle.
It's definitely what we hang our hat on, but i thought we were looking pretty good until the OC got cute.... Run the BALL!

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Go Lehigh TU owl
December 4th, 2021, 05:23 PM
Montana State 13 UTM 7 Start 4Q

Game has pretty much gone to script, low scoring slugfest....

SeattleCat
December 4th, 2021, 05:24 PM
Touchdown Tommy for 6!

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 4th, 2021, 05:25 PM
And just like that MSU's QB rips off a massive TD run! Missed XP though...

Bobcats 19-7 14:05 4Q

SeattleCat
December 4th, 2021, 05:45 PM
Ifanse for 6!

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 4th, 2021, 05:47 PM
Montana State drives home the final nail with a TD!

Bobcats 26-7 5:16 4Q

UTM is a darn good team but lacked the offense today to seriously challenge. Montana State and Villanova are so similar. They both have a lot of talent but in an era where offense rules?.....

wapiti
December 4th, 2021, 06:46 PM
Montana State drives home the final nail with a TD!

Bobcats 26-7 5:16 4Q

UTM is a darn good team but lacked the offense today to seriously challenge. Montana State and Villanova are so similar. They both have a lot of talent but in an era where offense rules?.....

Defenses win championships.