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smallcollegefbfan
September 3rd, 2007, 12:08 PM
Will App be the unanimous number one? I just looked at TSN and they have the records updated in the rankings but have not moved the teams around. This should be an interesting top 25 with several surprise wins.

TexasTerror
September 3rd, 2007, 12:09 PM
How is App State not a unanimous number one?

Perhaps because your looking at the preseason poll...xrulesx

Poll has not come out just yet...

FCSFAN
September 3rd, 2007, 03:09 PM
their poll:

1 Appalachian State Mountaineers (67) 1-0 1771 1
2 Montana Grizzlies (3) 1-0 1680 3
3 Massachusetts Minutemen 1-0 1551 2
4 North Dakota State Bison 0-0 1548 5
5 Youngstown State Penguins 0-1 1417 4
6 New Hampshire Wildcats (1) 0-0 1393 6
7 Illinois State Redbirds 0-1 1227 8
8 James Madison Dukes 0-1 1149 9
9 Northern Iowa Panthers 1-0 1141 17
10 McNeese State Cowboys 1-0 1059 21
11 Furman Paladins 1-0 1058 12
12 Southern Illinois Salukis 1-0 935 7
13 Portland State Vikings 0-1 866 19
14 Wofford Terriers 1-0 810 23
15 Cal Poly Mustangs 0-1 719 16
16 Hampton Pirates 0-0 567 11
17 Eastern Illinois Panthers 1-0 546 15
18 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1-0 352 NR
19 Delaware Blue Hens 1-0 340 NR
20 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 0-1 336 22
21 Montana State Bobcats 0-1 332 10
22 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 0-1 300 13
23 Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 0-1 272 14
24 Yale Bulldogs 0-0 166 25
25 South Carolina State Bulldogs 0-1 133 NR

Others receiving votes: Princeton 130, Towson 111, San Diego 95, Central Arkansas 94, Lafayette 90, Stephen F. Austin 80, Lehigh 77, Georgia Southern 59, Northern Arizona 58, UC Davis 55, Alabama A&M 54, Liberty 45, Delaware State 43, Richmond 41, Holy Cross 33, Jackson State 31, Maine 30, Texas State 28, Western Illinois 24, Jacksonville State 21, The Citadel 15, Eastern Washington 15, Eastern Kentucky 14, Florida A&M 11, Harvard 11, Bethune-Cookman 10, Tennessee State 10, Arkansas-Pine Bluff 9, Colgate 8, Central Connecticut State 4, Northeastern 1, Villanova 1, Weber State 1.

Too many teams moved up with losses and down with wins.

kardplayer
September 3rd, 2007, 03:14 PM
their poll:

1 Appalachian State Mountaineers (67) 1-0 1771 1
2 Montana Grizzlies (3) 1-0 1680 3
3 Massachusetts Minutemen 1-0 1551 2
4 North Dakota State Bison 0-0 1548 5
5 Youngstown State Penguins 0-1 1417 4
6 New Hampshire Wildcats (1) 0-0 1393 6
7 Illinois State Redbirds 0-1 1227 8
8 James Madison Dukes 0-1 1149 9
9 Northern Iowa Panthers 1-0 1141 17
10 McNeese State Cowboys 1-0 1059 21
11 Furman Paladins 1-0 1058 12
12 Southern Illinois Salukis 1-0 935 7
13 Portland State Vikings 0-1 866 19
14 Wofford Terriers 1-0 810 23
15 Cal Poly Mustangs 0-1 719 16
16 Hampton Pirates 0-0 567 11
17 Eastern Illinois Panthers 1-0 546 15
18 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1-0 352 NR
19 Delaware Blue Hens 1-0 340 NR
20 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 0-1 336 22
21 Montana State Bobcats 0-1 332 10
22 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 0-1 300 13
23 Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 0-1 272 14
24 Yale Bulldogs 0-0 166 25
25 South Carolina State Bulldogs 0-1 133 NR

Others receiving votes: Princeton 130, Towson 111, San Diego 95, Central Arkansas 94, Lafayette 90, Stephen F. Austin 80, Lehigh 77, Georgia Southern 59, Northern Arizona 58, UC Davis 55, Alabama A&M 54, Liberty 45, Delaware State 43, Richmond 41, Holy Cross 33, Jackson State 31, Maine 30, Texas State 28, Western Illinois 24, Jacksonville State 21, The Citadel 15, Eastern Washington 15, Eastern Kentucky 14, Florida A&M 11, Harvard 11, Bethune-Cookman 10, Tennessee State 10, Arkansas-Pine Bluff 9, Colgate 8, Central Connecticut State 4, Northeastern 1, Villanova 1, Weber State 1.

Too many teams moved up with losses and down with wins.

Like I said in the AGS thread - moving up and down in week 1 is meaningless since the mix of pollsters is different from preseason to week 1.

That said, I have to really question Illinois State at #7 and Montana and UNH with first place votes.

FargoBison
September 3rd, 2007, 03:14 PM
their poll:

1 Appalachian State Mountaineers (67) 1-0 1771 1
2 Montana Grizzlies (3) 1-0 1680 3
3 Massachusetts Minutemen 1-0 1551 2
4 North Dakota State Bison 0-0 1548 5
5 Youngstown State Penguins 0-1 1417 4
6 New Hampshire Wildcats (1) 0-0 1393 6
7 Illinois State Redbirds 0-1 1227 8
8 James Madison Dukes 0-1 1149 9
9 Northern Iowa Panthers 1-0 1141 17
10 McNeese State Cowboys 1-0 1059 21
11 Furman Paladins 1-0 1058 12
12 Southern Illinois Salukis 1-0 935 7
13 Portland State Vikings 0-1 866 19
14 Wofford Terriers 1-0 810 23
15 Cal Poly Mustangs 0-1 719 16
16 Hampton Pirates 0-0 567 11
17 Eastern Illinois Panthers 1-0 546 15
18 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1-0 352 NR
19 Delaware Blue Hens 1-0 340 NR
20 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 0-1 336 22
21 Montana State Bobcats 0-1 332 10
22 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 0-1 300 13
23 Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 0-1 272 14
24 Yale Bulldogs 0-0 166 25
25 South Carolina State Bulldogs 0-1 133 NR

Others receiving votes: Princeton 130, Towson 111, San Diego 95, Central Arkansas 94, Lafayette 90, Stephen F. Austin 80, Lehigh 77, Georgia Southern 59, Northern Arizona 58, UC Davis 55, Alabama A&M 54, Liberty 45, Delaware State 43, Richmond 41, Holy Cross 33, Jackson State 31, Maine 30, Texas State 28, Western Illinois 24, Jacksonville State 21, The Citadel 15, Eastern Washington 15, Eastern Kentucky 14, Florida A&M 11, Harvard 11, Bethune-Cookman 10, Tennessee State 10, Arkansas-Pine Bluff 9, Colgate 8, Central Connecticut State 4, Northeastern 1, Villanova 1, Weber State 1.

Too many teams moved up with losses and down with wins.

This can't be right, Ill State at 7?

FCSFAN
September 3rd, 2007, 03:16 PM
It's a wacky tobacky poll:
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/sched/top25poll.aspx?sportcode=AG

Maybe its wrong or something

R.A.
September 3rd, 2007, 03:19 PM
Delaware State Beats Coastal Carolina... yet Coastal is still ranked ahead of Delaware State....

Yep, that make sense...

FargoBison
September 3rd, 2007, 03:20 PM
Delaware State Beats Coastal Carolina... yet Coastal is still ranked ahead of Delaware State....

Yep, that make sense...

I just figured out this is the preseason poll with the teams first week record added on to it. I wouldn't get worked up about it.

CrazyCat
September 3rd, 2007, 03:21 PM
One last rant

YSU was 4 drops to 5 after losing 38-6

JMU was 9 moves up to 8 after losing 37-14

MSU was 10 drops to 21 after losing 38-7

Am I missing something?

R.A.
September 3rd, 2007, 03:22 PM
I just figured out this is the preseason poll with the teams first week record added on to it. I wouldn't get worked up about it.

Oh, okay xnodx

Now I'm off to check the ACS Poll.

R.A.
September 3rd, 2007, 03:22 PM
I just figured out this is the preseason poll with the teams first week record added on to it. I wouldn't get worked up about it.

Oh, okay xnodx

Now I'm off to check the AGS Poll.

elkmcc
September 3rd, 2007, 03:52 PM
One last rant

YSU was 4 drops to 5 after losing 38-6

JMU was 9 moves up to 8 after losing 37-14

MSU was 10 drops to 21 after losing 38-7

Am I missing something?


Only the part at the end were you go Wah, Wah, Wah...

ChickenMan
September 3rd, 2007, 04:13 PM
One last rant

YSU was 4 drops to 5 after losing 38-6

JMU was 9 moves up to 8 after losing 37-14

MSU was 10 drops to 21 after losing 38-7

Am I missing something?



yes.. Cal Poly loses to Texas St and moves up from #16 to #15... :p

UNHWildCats
September 3rd, 2007, 04:32 PM
drake beat illinois state and gets no vortes while Weber State has a vote i surely hope this is the pre season poll order

FCSFAN
September 3rd, 2007, 04:33 PM
sports network 9/3 poll isn't out yet

ButlerGSU
September 3rd, 2007, 05:01 PM
Was I reading that right? How is Coastal still ranked after losing Saturday?

CatFan22
September 3rd, 2007, 05:03 PM
Only the part at the end were you go Wah, Wah, Wah...

You need to think of something else to type to us other than acting like a preschooler and typing "wah, wah, wah" every reply. Go back to egriz where they might like you.

GOKATS
September 3rd, 2007, 06:23 PM
sports network 9/3 poll isn't out yet

It was your post that started this whole fiasco........................xnonox

AZGrizFan
September 3rd, 2007, 06:29 PM
It was your post that started this whole fiasco........................xnonox

ralph's not on his game today.... xeyebrowx xlolx

FCSFAN
September 3rd, 2007, 06:31 PM
It's a wacky tobacky poll:
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/sched/top25poll.aspx?sportcode=AG
Maybe its wrong or something
It was your post that started this whole fiasco........................xnonoxI didn't start this thread. xnonox xnonox

by the way, sports network fixed their website

AZGrizFan
September 3rd, 2007, 06:32 PM
ralph's not on his game today.... xeyebrowx xlolx

Then I retract my statement, your honor. xeyebrowx

FCSFAN
September 3rd, 2007, 06:36 PM
ralph's not on his game today.... xeyebrowx xlolxYou still following me around Norton?
http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/honeymooners3.jpg

I'm going to have to get a bodyguard if you keep stalking me. xrolleyesx xlolx

AZGrizFan
September 3rd, 2007, 06:37 PM
You still following me around Norton?
http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/honeymooners3.jpg

I'm going to have to get a bodyguard if you keep stalking me. xrolleyesx xlolx

Go ahead, just keep the pictures comin, ralph. I LOVE them. Especially Norton. He was the glue that held that show together. xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx


ralph: TO THE MOON, ALICE!!!!

UNHWildCats
September 3rd, 2007, 06:38 PM
You still following me around Norton?
http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/honeymooners3.jpg

I'm going to have to get a bodyguard if you keep stalking me. xrolleyesx xlolx


May I suggest Cap'n?? He's still looking for a job i think.. though you may wanna go with someone younger whos still on the top of their game :p

FCSFAN
September 3rd, 2007, 06:40 PM
Go ahead, just keep the pictures comin, ralph. I LOVE them. Especially Norton. He was the glue that held that show together.Sounds like you are coming UNGLUED Norton. I'm here for football talk, not getting stalked. Try it yourself! Goodnight Trixie! xnonox

FCSFAN
September 3rd, 2007, 06:41 PM
No Sports Network poll yet, or players of the week!

TexasTerror
September 3rd, 2007, 07:38 PM
Perhaps because your looking at the preseason poll...xrulesx

Poll has not come out just yet...

Glad this thread has reached three pages because no one has read the second post on this thread by yours truly which is above! xcoffeex

grizband
September 3rd, 2007, 11:21 PM
Here is the first regular season Sportsnetwork poll, which has App. State a unanimous #1 after beating Michigan on Saturday.

1. Appalachian State Mountaineers (88) 1-0 2,200 1
2. Massachusetts Minutemen 1-0 2,077 3
3. Montana Grizzlies 1-0 2,075 2
4. North Dakota State Bison 0-0 1,826 4
5. New Hampshire Wildcats 0-0 1,815 6
6. Youngstown State Penguins 0-1 1,611 5
7. McNeese State Cowboys 1-0 1,607 10
8. Northern Iowa Panthers 1-0 1,550 9
9. Furman Paladins 1-0 1,440 11
10. James Madison Dukes 0-1 1,343 8
11. Southern Illinois Salukis 1-0 1,282 12
12. Eastern Illinois Panthers 1-0 984 17
13. Delaware Blue Hens 1-0 979 19
14. Wofford Terriers 1-0 902 14
15. Hampton Pirates 0-0 864 16
16. Sam Houston State Bearkats 1-0 593 18
17. Illinois State Redbirds 0-1 592 7
18. Portland State Vikings 0-1 528 13
19. Texas State Bobcats 1-0 449 NR
20. Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 0-1 398 22
21. Montana State Bobcats 0-1 395 21
22. Cal Poly Mustangs 0-1 373 15
23. Yale Bulldogs 0-0 275 24
24. Western Illinois Leathernecks 1-0 264 NR
25. Nicholls State Colonels 1-0 256 NR

Others receiving votes: Towson 232, Delaware State 192, South Dakota State 136, Lafayette 117, Northern Arizona 87, South Carolina State 69, Drake 72, Princeton 69, Alabama A&M 65, San Diego 64, Liberty 44, Northwestern State 44, Georgia Southern 39, Lehigh 39, Maine 35, Central Arkansas 34, Eastern Washington 34, The Citadel 29, Colgate 24, Southern 18, Harvard 17, Holy Cross 16, Eastern Kentucky 11, Gardner-Webb 6, Missouri State 6, Stephen F. Austin 6, Richmond 4, Winston-Salem State 4, Coastal Carolina 2, Mississippi Valley State 1.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm

TheValleyRaider
September 3rd, 2007, 11:57 PM
Interesting that UMass and Montana switched places. I'd bet it's all those voters who had Montana #1 dropping them behind App St. that made the big difference.

Model Citizen
September 3rd, 2007, 11:58 PM
Looks like our Muppets voted. Will anyone else admit to participating? What a mess.

kardplayer
September 4th, 2007, 12:06 AM
Looks like our Muppets voted. Will anyone else admit to participating? What a mess.

A mess?

24 of 25 teams are the same as AGS.

Top 4 are the same - 2,3,4 are different in both
5-9 are the same
10-15 are the same (Delaware is #13 in both, the only match besides Appalachian State)
16-25 are all over the place, but the difference is Western Illinois (Sports Network) vs. Lehigh (AGS)

Model Citizen
September 4th, 2007, 12:15 AM
A mess?

24 of 25 teams are the same as AGS.



Exactly.

mistersykes
September 4th, 2007, 12:28 AM
I feel like EIU and SHSU rose too much and that Drake should have been in.

R.A.
September 4th, 2007, 12:46 AM
Pirates moved up??

Well... we just gotta put 'em down.

FCSFAN
September 4th, 2007, 12:50 PM
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm
Sports Network's FCS College Football Poll 9/4
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. Appalachian State Mountaineers (88) 1-0 2,200 1
2. Massachusetts Minutemen 1-0 2,077 3
3. Montana Grizzlies 1-0 2,075 2
4. North Dakota State Bison 0-0 1,826 4
5. New Hampshire Wildcats 0-0 1,815 6
6. Youngstown State Penguins 0-1 1,611 5
7. McNeese State Cowboys 1-0 1,607 10
8. Northern Iowa Panthers 1-0 1,550 9
9. Furman Paladins 1-0 1,440 11
10. James Madison Dukes 0-1 1,343 8
11. Southern Illinois Salukis 1-0 1,282 12
12. Eastern Illinois Panthers 1-0 984 17
13. Delaware Blue Hens 1-0 979 19
14. Wofford Terriers 1-0 902 14
15. Hampton Pirates 0-0 864 16
16. Sam Houston State Bearkats 1-0 593 18
17. Illinois State Redbirds 0-1 592 7
18. Portland State Vikings 0-1 528 13
19. Texas State Bobcats 1-0 449 NR
20. Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 0-1 398 22
21. Montana State Bobcats 0-1 395 21
22. Cal Poly Mustangs 0-1 373 15
23. Yale Bulldogs 0-0 275 24
24. Western Illinois Leathernecks 1-0 264 NR
25. Nicholls State Colonels 1-0 256 NR
Others receiving votes: Towson 232, Delaware State 192, South Dakota State 136, Lafayette 117, Northern Arizona 87, South Carolina State 69, Drake 72, Princeton 69, Alabama A&M 65, San Diego 64, Liberty 44, Northwestern State 44, Georgia Southern 39, Lehigh 39, Maine 35, Central Arkansas 34, Eastern Washington 34, The Citadel 29, Colgate 24, Southern 18, Harvard 17, Holy Cross 16, Eastern Kentucky 11, Gardner-Webb 6, Missouri State 6, Stephen F. Austin 6, Richmond 4, Winston-Salem State 4, Coastal Carolina 2, Mississippi Valley State 1.

Grizalltheway
September 4th, 2007, 12:53 PM
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/TSN-DIV-1AA-POLL.htm
Sports Network's FCS College Football Poll 9/4
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. Appalachian State Mountaineers (88) 1-0 2,200 1
2. Massachusetts Minutemen 1-0 2,077 3
3. Montana Grizzlies 1-0 2,075 2
4. North Dakota State Bison 0-0 1,826 4
5. New Hampshire Wildcats 0-0 1,815 6
6. Youngstown State Penguins 0-1 1,611 5
7. McNeese State Cowboys 1-0 1,607 10
8. Northern Iowa Panthers 1-0 1,550 9
9. Furman Paladins 1-0 1,440 11
10. James Madison Dukes 0-1 1,343 8
11. Southern Illinois Salukis 1-0 1,282 12
12. Eastern Illinois Panthers 1-0 984 17
13. Delaware Blue Hens 1-0 979 19
14. Wofford Terriers 1-0 902 14
15. Hampton Pirates 0-0 864 16
16. Sam Houston State Bearkats 1-0 593 18
17. Illinois State Redbirds 0-1 592 7
18. Portland State Vikings 0-1 528 13
19. Texas State Bobcats 1-0 449 NR
20. Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 0-1 398 22
21. Montana State Bobcats 0-1 395 21
22. Cal Poly Mustangs 0-1 373 15
23. Yale Bulldogs 0-0 275 24
24. Western Illinois Leathernecks 1-0 264 NR
25. Nicholls State Colonels 1-0 256 NR
Others receiving votes: Towson 232, Delaware State 192, South Dakota State 136, Lafayette 117, Northern Arizona 87, South Carolina State 69, Drake 72, Princeton 69, Alabama A&M 65, San Diego 64, Liberty 44, Northwestern State 44, Georgia Southern 39, Lehigh 39, Maine 35, Central Arkansas 34, Eastern Washington 34, The Citadel 29, Colgate 24, Southern 18, Harvard 17, Holy Cross 16, Eastern Kentucky 11, Gardner-Webb 6, Missouri State 6, Stephen F. Austin 6, Richmond 4, Winston-Salem State 4, Coastal Carolina 2, Mississippi Valley State 1.

xconfusedx xconfusedx xnonono2x

GannonFan
September 4th, 2007, 12:56 PM
xconfusedx xconfusedx xnonono2x

Maybe they forgot in the preseason poll that UMass had won in Missoula the year before and they just "corrected" themselves in this week's poll?

FargoBison
September 4th, 2007, 12:59 PM
xconfusedx xconfusedx xnonono2x

Didn't the Griz have a few first place votes? If so that would explain the fall in the rankings.