AGS Poll Results - Week 10 - 2021

[AGSPoll]

11/8/2021



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes


1
Sam Houston Bearkats
1324
52


2
Montana State Bobcats
1259
1


3
James Madison Dukes
1201



4
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1112



5
North Dakota State Bison
1106



6
UC Davis Aggies
1023



7
Villanova Wildcats
925



8
Eastern Washington Eagles
889



9
East Tennessee State Buccaneers
866



10
Montana Grizzlies
769



11
Missouri State Bears
722



12
Kennesaw State Owls
678



13
Sac State Hornets
677



14
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
665



15
Southern Illinois Salukis
656



16
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
622



17
Incarnate Word Cardinals
562



18
South Dakota Coyotes
430



19
Northern Iowa Panthers
333



20
Chattanooga Mocs
278



21
Jackson State Tigers
242



22
Dartmouth Big Green
219



23
Virginia Military Institute Keydets
213



24
Mercer Bears
90



25
Princeton Tigers
61
















ORV:




26
William & Mary Tribe
58



27
Monmouth Hawks
57



28
Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
47



29
Holy Cross Crusaders
39



30
Harvard Crimson
33



31
Rhode Island Rams
32



32
Nicholls Colonels
11



33
Davidson Wildcats
9



34
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
7




















































Most Significant Win:
Montana State Bobcats





Most Significant Loss:
Northern Iowa Panthers

[Professor Chaos]

This week's poll article: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-10-top-25-results-3/

Gonna put my homer hat on for the criticism of this one but I think there's a lot of recency bias playing into SDSU and JMU being ranked above NDSU. Yes, SDSU beat NDSU last week but they're still below them in the conference standings. Compare JMU and NDSU's resume's side-by-side and the only reason I can see for JMU being ranked above NDSU is the fact that NDSU's loss is more recent.

On another note this was (I believe) the 250th release of the AGS Poll in it's history.

[atthewbon]

Here was my crack at it:

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: North Dakota State Bison
4: James Madison Dukes
5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
6: Villanova Wildcats
7: UC Davis Aggies
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Kennesaw State Owls
10: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
11: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
12: Southern Illinois Salukis
13: Montana Grizzlies
14: Sac State Hornets
15: Missouri State Bears
16: Incarnate Word Cardinals
17: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
18: Northern Iowa Panthers
19: South Dakota Coyotes
20: Jackson State Tigers
21: Dartmouth Big Green
22: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
23: Mercer Bears
24: Chattanooga Mocs
25: Princeton Tigers

Overall I feel pretty good about the top 8 teams (not necessarily the order but the top 8) after that it’s a mess. All 25 teams from my poll were in the AGS poll. I had UT Martin and Kennesaw higher than most voters and Missouri st and Montana a bit lower. Overall it looks like a good poll.


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[Professor Chaos]

This is what I put together... I really struggled with UNI and was probably too generous with them but I kept going back to the fact that no team has a trio as wins as good as their top 3 wins are:

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: North Dakota State Bison
4: James Madison Dukes
5: UC Davis Aggies
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Villanova Wildcats
9: Missouri State Bears
10: Sac State Hornets
11: Southern Illinois Salukis
12: Montana Grizzlies
13: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
14: South Dakota Coyotes
15: Northern Iowa Panthers
16: Kennesaw State Owls
17: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
18: Incarnate Word Cardinals
19: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
20: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
21: Chattanooga Mocs
22: Jackson State Tigers
23: Dartmouth Big Green
24: Stephen F Austin Lumberjacks
25: Mercer Bears

[Daytripper]

This week's poll article: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-10-top-25-results-3/

Gonna put my homer hat on for the criticism of this one but I think there's a lot of recency bias playing into SDSU and JMU being ranked above NDSU. Yes, SDSU beat NDSU last week but they're still below them in the conference standings. Compare JMU and NDSU's resume's side-by-side and the only reason I can see for JMU being ranked above NDSU is the fact that NDSU's loss is more recent.

On another note this was (I believe) the 250th release of the AGS Poll in it's history.

I agree with you, Professor.

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: Villanova Wildcats
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: UC Davis Aggies
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Kennesaw State Owls
10: Southern Illinois Salukis
11: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
12: Missouri State Bears
13: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
14: Montana Grizzlies
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Sac State Hornets
17: South Dakota Coyotes
18: Chattanooga Mocs
19: Incarnate Word Cardinals
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: Mercer Bears
22: Jackson State Tigers
23: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
24: Holy Cross Crusaders
25: Dartmouth Big Green

[atthewbon]

This week's poll article: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-10-top-25-results-3/

Gonna put my homer hat on for the criticism of this one but I think there's a lot of recency bias playing into SDSU and JMU being ranked above NDSU. Yes, SDSU beat NDSU last week but they're still below them in the conference standings. Compare JMU and NDSU's resume's side-by-side and the only reason I can see for JMU being ranked above NDSU is the fact that NDSU's loss is more recent.

On another note this was (I believe) the 250th release of the AGS Poll in it's history.

I agree on what you said about NDSU, I had them at 3 above JMU and SDSU. NDSU has a better resume that JMU or SDSU and although that’s not the only criteria it was enough to keep NDSU ahead for me.

[nevadagriz]

Casual observation and question. Why no love for Sac st? Why soo much love for EWU (2 straight losses) can Montana crack the top five if they win out (including a win over no.2)?

[Professor Chaos]

Casual observation and question. Why no love for Sac st? Why soo much love for EWU (2 straight losses) can Montana crack the top five if they win out (including a win over no.2)?
I think Sac St is slightly under-ranked in the consensus but not too badly. They really should be switched up with Montana IMO. For EWU I couldn't drop them that low because they did only lose by 3 to the #2 team in my poll and their 2 losses were by a combined 4 points.

I don't know about top 5 but I certainly think Montana would be into the seeds if they finish 9-2. At least one of the group between UCD, EWU, and Sac St is going to drop down to 3 losses with their head-to-head matchups and maybe even two of them so they'd move ahead of whoever that is. Of course Montana St could still be the Big Sky auto in that scenario as well so who knows if Montana's head-to-head win would trump that when it comes to seeding? You should be a South Dakota Coyote fan the last two weeks since they'll have two chances to knock down teams that would be above a 9-2 Montana as well.

[dewey]

Casual observation and question. Why no love for Sac st? Why soo much love for EWU (2 straight losses) can Montana crack the top five if they win out (including a win over no.2)?

Looks like PC responded but I think Montana would need a LOT of help to crack the top 5.

They would need JMU, SHSU, NDSU, MSU, Sacramento State and probably UC Davis to lose.

No impossible but highly unlikely.

Dewey

[caribbeanhen]

I agree with you, Professor.

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: Villanova Wildcats
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: UC Davis Aggies
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Kennesaw State Owls
10: Southern Illinois Salukis
11: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
12: Missouri State Bears
13: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
14: Montana Grizzlies
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Sac State Hornets
17: South Dakota Coyotes
18: Chattanooga Mocs
19: Incarnate Word Cardinals
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: Mercer Bears
22: Jackson State Tigers
23: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
24: Holy Cross Crusaders
25: Dartmouth Big Green

consider Harvard over Holy Cross

[Gil Dobie]

Still have Ivy's in the poll. At least Davidson has a good loss. Winless Albany just beat UNH.

[Professor Chaos]

Still have Ivy's in the poll. At least Davidson has a good loss. Winless Albany just beat UNH.
Princeton was almost included by default. 61 points (barely over a point per poll ballot submitted) is probably the lowest point total for a team ranked in the AGS Top 25 for a long time (I know it's the fewest since at least 2016).

[crusader11]

consider Harvard over Holy Cross

Agree. They totally dominated us. Not to mention, were screwed out of a win at Princeton.

[caribbeanhen]

Agree. They totally dominated us. Not to mention, were screwed out of a win at Princeton.

exactly my thoughts

Dartmouth would rip Barbarasaw a new one

[POD Knows]

This week's poll article: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-10-top-25-results-3/

Gonna put my homer hat on for the criticism of this one but I think there's a lot of recency bias playing into SDSU and JMU being ranked above NDSU. Yes, SDSU beat NDSU last week but they're still below them in the conference standings. Compare JMU and NDSU's resume's side-by-side and the only reason I can see for JMU being ranked above NDSU is the fact that NDSU's loss is more recent.

On another note this was (I believe) the 250th release of the AGS Poll in it's history.
SDSU is a better football team than NDSU. I don’t need bias to tell me that. They bitch slapped us in the spring and they bitch slapped us this past weekend.

[Professor Chaos]

SDSU is a better football team than NDSU. I don’t need bias to tell me that. They bitch slapped us in the spring and they bitch slapped us this past weekend.
The spring should have basically no bearing at this point. If that game was a bitch slap then UNI bitch slapped SDSU two weeks ago yet no one is ranking them above SDSU.

[POD Knows]

The spring should have basically no bearing at this point. If that game was a bitch slap then UNI bitch slapped SDSU two weeks ago yet no one is ranking them above SDSU.
Well if the spring doesn’t matter then why is SHSU #1. Of course it matters. I don’t care about UNI and SDSU, I watched the game this weekend, SDSU was/is a better team and they were a better team last spring as well. We got a gift of s schedule, our OOC was garbage. We got MSU at home, barely beat them and we got UNI at home. We limped through the UND game, should have lost, and we lost to SDSU. I don’t get the allure. I have watched NDSU football since the 70’s, I don’t know what we are seeing now. It we turn it around and win another Natty I will eat crow. No way this coaching staff will allow that to happen. It must be a competitive teams wet dream to game plan against the NDSU O. Am I wrong?

[RabidRabbit]

NDSU has to lose again to NOT be the MVFC auto bid. SDSU now has an FBS and its first top 25 win. I didn't give UNI credit for their quality wins. Mea culpa. MT St is in the driver seat for the Big Sky, but Sac St can tie. IIRC, Sac St and MT St don't play. As of today, MO St is in 2nd by themselves at 5-2, while 3 teams USD, SDSU, SIU are 4-2 in MVFC play then UNI is in 6th at 3-3.

UNI caught Jacks when defensive was missing 3 all conference or nationally rated LBs. And it showed. 2 of the 3 were back vs NDSU. IMHO, those key players, along with backs to wall and at home were keys to Jackrabbits tipping the Bison. Winning turn over margin, unlike game vs UNI also big factor.

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[Professor Chaos]

Well if the spring doesn’t matter then why is SHSU #1. Of course it matters. I don’t care about UNI and SDSU, I watched the game this weekend, SDSU was/is a better team and they were a better team last spring as well. We got a gift of s schedule, our OOC was garbage. We got MSU at home, barely beat them and we got UNI at home. We limped through the UND game, should have lost, and we lost to SDSU. I don’t get the allure. I have watched NDSU football since the 70’s, I don’t know what we are seeing now. It we turn it around and win another Natty I will eat crow. No way this coaching staff will allow that to happen. It must be a competitive teams wet dream to game plan against the NDSU O. Am I wrong?
I think you got used to how dominant NDSU was from 2017-2019. This team is not those teams. This is much more like a 2011/2012 Bison team but all of those teams won titles. I also think you're far more critical of NDSU than you are of the other schools you're ranking around them. I'm frustrated as well because I don't see a team that is greater than the sum of it's parts (which is what we're used to seeing as NDSU fans). However, that's a discussion for a different thread.

For all their faults NDSU is on track to win an outright MVFC title in a year the MVFC has been as tough as it's ever been. You're also using a double standard by discounting NDSU's wins over UNI and Missouri St because they were at home and then using SDSU's home win over NDSU as the reason why they're clearly better. SDSU has already lost two games at home earlier this fall.

And the reason why I have SHSU at #1 is because they've dominated their conference in a way that no one in the tougher leagues (MVFC, Big Sky, CAA, SOCON) has come close to. I'd say the only team with a chance to pass them before the playoffs is Montana St. Had NDSU beaten SDSU last Saturday I'd probably have ranked them over SHSU.

[POD Knows]

NDSU has to lose again to NOT be the MVFC auto bid. SDSU now has an FBS and its first top 25 win. I didn't give UNI credit for their quality wins. Mea culpa. MT St is in the driver seat for the Big Sky, but Sac St can tie. IIRC, Sac St and MT St don't play. As of today, MO St is in 2nd by themselves at 5-2, while 3 teams USD, SDSU, SIU are 4-2 in MVFC play then UNI is in 6th at 3-3.

UNI caught Jacks when defensive was missing 3 all conference or nationally rated LBs. And it showed. 2 of the 3 were back vs NDSU. IMHO, those key players, along with backs to wall and at home were keys to Jackrabbits tipping the Bison. Winning turn over margin, unlike game vs UNI also big factor.

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Also you have better players at the skill positions on offense and actually have an OC that has a clue.

[RabidRabbit]

Also you have better players at the skill positions on offense and actually have an OC that has a clue.Eck called a bunch of masterful plays that found the Bison defense without early stops.

Jacks grad QB is providing the 1 year boost I envisioned when we picked him up. He had done well at Samford, and with a great Oline, I had hoped for type of performance being delivered.

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[mvemjsunpx]

I did a wholesale re-evaluation of everything this week, so some of the movements from last week look a bit strange (especially UC Davis).


Previous week in parentheses…


1. Sam Houston St. (1)
2. Montana St. (4)
3. North Dakota St. (2)
4. Missouri St. (16)
5. Villanova (6)
6. East Tennessee St. (9)
7. South Dakota St. (13)
8. James Madison (7)
9. Dartmouth (14)
10. Northern Iowa (5)
11. Southern Illinois (12)
12. Princeton (10)
13. Harvard (22)
14. Sacramento St. (15)
15. UC Davis (8)
16. Eastern Washington (3)
17. Incarnate Word (NR)
18. Southeastern Louisiana (11)
19. Kennesaw St. (18)
20. Tennessee-Martin (19)
21. Montana (23)
22. VMI (20)
23. Tennessee-Chattanooga (24)
24. Jackson St. (25)
25. South Dakota (NR)

Dropped - William & Mary (17), Weber St. (21)


W - Montana St.
L - William & Mary

[ursus arctos horribilis]

This week's poll article: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-10-top-25-results-3/

Gonna put my homer hat on for the criticism of this one but I think there's a lot of recency bias playing into SDSU and JMU being ranked above NDSU. Yes, SDSU beat NDSU last week but they're still below them in the conference standings. Compare JMU and NDSU's resume's side-by-side and the only reason I can see for JMU being ranked above NDSU is the fact that NDSU's loss is more recent.

On another note this was (I believe) the 250th release of the AGS Poll in it's history.

That's pretty cool on the total number of poll releases man. Since I got you that lost year I think you have the total count better than anyone else would so I'm sure you have it correct.

Oddly enough, that is about the same number of podcasts done too.

[POD Knows]

I think you got used to how dominant NDSU was from 2017-2019. This team is not those teams. This is much more like a 2011/2012 Bison team but all of those teams won titles. I also think you're far more critical of NDSU than you are of the other schools you're ranking around them. I'm frustrated as well because I don't see a team that is greater than the sum of it's parts (which is what we're used to seeing as NDSU fans). However, that's a discussion for a different thread.

For all their faults NDSU is on track to win an outright MVFC title in a year the MVFC has been as tough as it's ever been. You're also using a double standard by discounting NDSU's wins over UNI and Missouri St because they were at home and then using SDSU's home win over NDSU as the reason why they're clearly better. SDSU has already lost two games at home earlier this fall.

And the reason why I have SHSU at #1 is because they've dominated their conference in a way that no one in the tougher leagues (MVFC, Big Sky, CAA, SOCON) has come close to. I'd say the only team with a chance to pass them before the playoffs is Montana St. Had NDSU beaten SDSU last Saturday I'd probably have ranked them over SHSU.
I might have put NDSU over SHSU with a decent win as well.

Even with the team in 2011 and 2012 you expected a pretty consistent performance with at least some semblance of identity. I have no idea who this current team is particularly on the offensive side of the ball. I literally cringe with every snap and you have almost no idea what to expect. That is not to mean the offensive is unpredictable, it isn’t, but the results surely are.

I am probably more critical of NDSU than other teams because the bar is set maybe unrealistically high. I need to recalibrate my expectations.

[TheKingpin28]

This was a tough week. This was mine:

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: UC Davis Aggies
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Missouri State Bears
9: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: Southern Illinois Salukis
12: Sac State Hornets
13: Montana Grizzlies
14: Incarnate Word Cardinals
15: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
16: Kennesaw State Owls
17: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
18: Northern Iowa Panthers
19: South Dakota Coyotes
20: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
21: Jackson State Tigers
22: Chattanooga Mocs
23: Dartmouth Big Green
24: Monmouth Hawks
25: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks

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[Preferred Walk-On]

Hello Preferred Walk-On,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/7/2021 18:07:54

Your vote is listed below.

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: James Madison Dukes
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: Missouri State Bears
7: UC Davis Aggies
8: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
9: Kennesaw State Owls
10: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
11: Sac State Hornets
12: Eastern Washington Eagles
13: Northern Iowa Panthers
14: Southern Illinois Salukis
15: Incarnate Word Cardinals
16: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
17: Montana Grizzlies
18: Villanova Wildcats
19: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
20: Chattanooga Mocs
21: Dartmouth Big Green
22: Jackson State Tigers
23: Harvard Crimson
24: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
25: Nicholls Colonels

Preferred Walk-On

The Most Significant Win: Montana State Bobcats
The Most Significant Loss: William & Mary Tribe
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[caribbeanhen]

This was a tough week. This was mine:

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: UC Davis Aggies
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Missouri State Bears
9: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: Southern Illinois Salukis
12: Sac State Hornets
13: Montana Grizzlies
14: Incarnate Word Cardinals
15: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
16: Kennesaw State Owls
17: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
18: Northern Iowa Panthers
19: South Dakota Coyotes
20: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
21: Jackson State Tigers
22: Chattanooga Mocs
23: Dartmouth Big Green
24: Monmouth Hawks
25: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks

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consider Princeton over Monmouth

[uofmman1122]

None of you are voting Montana higher than like 12th, so who the hell has us high enough to push us to #10? lol

The highest I think we'd deserve even if we went 9-2 and beat MSU is #8, but I don't see us beating the cats this year, so I guess it doesn't matter.

[MR. CHICKEN]

I did a wholesale re-evaluation of everything this week, so some of the movements from last week look a bit strange (especially UC Davis).


Previous week in parentheses…


1. Sam Houston St. (1)
2. Montana St. (4)
3. North Dakota St. (2)
4. Missouri St. (16)
5. Villanova (6)
6. East Tennessee St. (9)
7. South Dakota St. (13)
8. James Madison (7)
9. Dartmouth (14)
10. Northern Iowa (5)
11. Southern Illinois (12)
12. Princeton (10)
13. Harvard (22)
14. Sacramento St. (15)
15. UC Davis (8)
16. Eastern Washington (3)
17. Incarnate Word (NR)

18. Southeastern Louisiana (11)
19. Kennesaw St. (18)
20. Tennessee-Martin (19)
21. Montana (23)
22. VMI (20)
23. Tennessee-Chattanooga (24)
24. Jackson St. (25)
25. South Dakota (NR)

Dropped - William & Mary (17), Weber St. (21)


W - Montana St.
L - William & Mary


.....YER IN DUH VOTERS HOF.........BUT YER POLL...SHOOD BE WRAPPED UHROUND....UH SPOOL....IN DUH LOO.................AWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

.....AN' TA DUH BIZON.....YA LOST....DERE4...YA DROP.....BAWK!

[Chalupa Batman]

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: UC Davis Aggies
9: Missouri State Bears
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
12: Southern Illinois Salukis
13: Sac State Hornets
14: Kennesaw State Owls
15: Incarnate Word Cardinals
16: Chattanooga Mocs
17: Montana Grizzlies
18: South Dakota Coyotes
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Dartmouth Big Green
21: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
22: Jackson State Tigers
23: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
24: Princeton Tigers
25: Holy Cross Crusaders

The Most Significant Win: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
The Most Significant Loss: William & Mary Tribe
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[POD Knows]

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
6: North Dakota State Bison
7: UC Davis Aggies
8: Missouri State Bears
9: Villanova Wildcats
10: Southern Illinois Salukis
11: Kennesaw State Owls
12: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
13: Sac State Hornets
14: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
15: Montana Grizzlies
16: South Dakota Coyotes
17: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
18: Incarnate Word Cardinals
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Jackson State Tigers
21: Chattanooga Mocs
22: Mercer Bears
23: Dartmouth Big Green
24: Princeton Tigers
25: Holy Cross Crusaders

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Villanova Wildcats
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: James Madison Dukes
7: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
10: UC Davis Aggies
11: Montana Grizzlies
12: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
13: Kennesaw State Owls
14: Missouri State Bears
15: Sac State Hornets
16: Southern Illinois Salukis
17: Incarnate Word Cardinals
18: South Dakota Coyotes
19: Dartmouth Big Green
20: Jackson State Tigers
21: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
22: Harvard Crimson
23: William & Mary Tribe
24: Holy Cross Crusaders
25: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks

The Most Significant Win: Incarnate Word Cardinals
The Most Significant Loss: Northern Iowa Panthers
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Patriot League

[dewey]

Here is my poll.

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: UC Davis Aggies
8: Villanova Wildcats
9: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
10: Sac State Hornets
11: Incarnate Word Cardinals
12: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
13: Missouri State Bears
14: Montana Grizzlies
15: Southern Illinois Salukis
16: Northern Iowa Panthers
17: South Dakota Coyotes
18: Dartmouth Big Green
19: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
20: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
21: William & Mary Tribe
22: Kennesaw State Owls
23: Chattanooga Mocs
24: Jackson State Tigers
25: Princeton Tigers

dewey

The Most Significant Win: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota State Bison
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

In hindsight I would have had NDSU ranked ahead of SDSU since the Jackrabbits have dropped 2 other games.

Dewey

[caribbeanhen]

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
6: North Dakota State Bison
7: UC Davis Aggies
8: Missouri State Bears
9: Villanova Wildcats
10: Southern Illinois Salukis
11: Kennesaw State Owls
12: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
13: Sac State Hornets
14: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
15: Montana Grizzlies
16: South Dakota Coyotes
17: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
18: Incarnate Word Cardinals
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Jackson State Tigers
21: Chattanooga Mocs
22: Mercer Bears
23: Dartmouth Big Green
24: Princeton Tigers
25: Holy Cross Crusaders


nice roll at 23 and 24

Harvard whipped #25

38-13

[GoBlueHens83]

1: Montana State Bobcats
2: Sam Houston Bearkats
3: North Dakota State Bison
4: UC Davis Aggies
5: James Madison Dukes
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
8: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
9: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: Sac State Hornets
12: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
13: Montana Grizzlies
14: Missouri State Bears
15: Northern Iowa Panthers
16: Southern Illinois Salukis
17: South Dakota Coyotes
18: Incarnate Word Cardinals
19: Kennesaw State Owls
20: Jackson State Tigers
21: Dartmouth Big Green
22: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
23: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
24: Mercer Bears
25: Chattanooga Mocs

I was the only person to vote MSU #1 this week. It wasn't easy for me to pick between MSU & Sammy for #1, as the two teams are pretty even in my opinion.

My #3-#10 I had a hard time with, I think they are all somewhat interchangeable at this point. It doesn't help that they are beating up on each other either, of course.

I'm also a little higher than most on UT Martin, but I think that has more to do with them winning while other teams around them are losing.

[POD Knows]

nice roll at 23 and 24

Harvard whipped #25

38-13
So. I had Harvard at 26. I have seen them play a couple times. Not impressed. You can pull 20-25 out of a hat and not get it right. Holy Cross screwed me early in the year. Put in my poll to hopefully lead them to defeat this weekend. 😀

[Professor Chaos]

I'm also a little higher than most on UT Martin, but I think that has more to do with them winning while other teams around them are losing.
Just out of curiosity mainly, what has UT-Martin showed you that Kennesaw St hasn't?

[MR. CHICKEN]

Here is my poll.

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: UC Davis Aggies
8: Villanova Wildcats
9: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
10: Sac State Hornets
11: Incarnate Word Cardinals
12: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
13: Missouri State Bears
14: Montana Grizzlies
15: Southern Illinois Salukis
16: Northern Iowa Panthers
17: South Dakota Coyotes
18: Dartmouth Big Green
19: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
20: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
21: William & Mary Tribe
22: Kennesaw State Owls
23: Chattanooga Mocs
24: Jackson State Tigers
25: Princeton Tigers

dewey

The Most Significant Win: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota State Bison
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

In hindsight I would have had NDSU ranked ahead of SDSU since the Jackrabbits have dropped 2 other games.

Dewey


.....NO LAD....YA DID THE RIGHT THING........YOU WERE BEATEN BAH 8...BAH UH TEAM.....RANKED 9TH.......WHO BEAT YA'S TWICE...MONTHS APART.........NOT BAH 1....& NOT...ON UH LAST SECOND 69 YD FG.......WHEN WE START LETTIN' LOSERS STAY WHERE THEY WERE....IN POLL..........INTEGRITY IS GONE...........MAJORITY UH AGS VOTERS AGREED....STATS POLL AGREED.........WASN'T UH FBS LOSS......YOU LOSE YOU DROP.........DIDNT THINK BIZONSSSSS....COOD ACCEPT DEFEAT........WHEN YA'S CROWED.......FO' ALL DESE YEARS........NOW YA'S COME OFF AS SORE LOSERS.......BRAWK!

[caribbeanhen]

So. I had Harvard at 26. I have seen them play a couple times. Not impressed. You can pull 20-25 out of a hat and not get it right. Holy Cross screwed me early in the year. Put in my poll to hopefully lead them to defeat this weekend. 

Hey, at least you manned up to my Ivy troll roll

But still absolutely no reason not to put the better team at 25 instead of the Holy Cross

[GoBlueHens83]

Just out of curiosity mainly, what has UT-Martin showed you that Kennesaw St hasn't?

Your curiosity made me look back at both teams a little closer. Their resumes are actually very similar. UT Martin had the benefit of beating 2 teams that I had ranked at the time (Jax St & Samford), which are no longer ranked. Those wins aren't looking so great now. Looks like I may have to make an adjustment next week.

[mvemjsunpx]

.....AN' TA DUH BIZON.....YA LOST....DERE4...YA DROP.....BAWK!

NDSU is still alone in first, and they still have the best resumé in the MVFC.

SDSU did beat NDSU, but they're 0-1 against the other 2-loss teams (plus a loss to the 3-3 team).

[Catbooster]

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: Villanova Wildcats
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
9: UC Davis Aggies
10: Missouri State Bears
11: Sac State Hornets
12: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
13: Kennesaw State Owls
14: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
15: Northern Iowa Panthers
16: Montana Grizzlies
17: Southern Illinois Salukis
18: South Dakota Coyotes
19: Incarnate Word Cardinals
20: Chattanooga Mocs
21: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
22: Jackson State Tigers
23: Monmouth Hawks
24: Holy Cross Crusaders
25: Mercer Bears

The Most Significant Win: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
The Most Significant Loss: Southern Illinois Salukis

[Professor Chaos]

.....NO LAD....YA DID THE RIGHT THING........YOU WERE BEATEN BAH 8...BAH UH TEAM.....RANKED 9TH.......WHO BEAT YA'S TWICE...MONTHS APART.........NOT BAH 1....& NOT...ON UH LAST SECOND 69 YD FG.......WHEN WE START LETTIN' LOSERS STAY WHERE THEY WERE....IN POLL..........INTEGRITY IS GONE...........MAJORITY UH AGS VOTERS AGREED....STATS POLL AGREED.........WASN'T UH FBS LOSS......YOU LOSE YOU DROP.........DIDNT THINK BIZONSSSSS....COOD ACCEPT DEFEAT........WHEN YA'S CROWED.......FO' ALL DESE YEARS........NOW YA'S COME OFF AS SORE LOSERS.......BRAWK!
So then you have UNI in front of SDSU? And then NDSU in front of UNI? And then SDSU in front of NDSU?

[MR. CHICKEN]

So then you have UNI in front of SDSU? And then NDSU in front of UNI? And then SDSU in front of NDSU?

...ATTAH BOY........WE NOW AGREE.....TA.....AGREE.....xhugx......BRAWK!

.....NOW..........WHAA 'BOUT..DUH FAKE FG....:D.........ZWK!

[Professor Chaos]

...ATTAH BOY........WE NOW AGREE.....TA.....AGREE.....xhugx......BRAWK!

.....NOW..........WHAA 'BOUT..DUH FAKE FG....:D.........ZWK!
NDSU did drop in practically every poll ballot below Montana St who they were unanimously above last week. How far should they drop? What's the slot voting rule?

[MR. CHICKEN]

NDSU did drop in practically every poll ballot below Montana St who they were unanimously above last week. How far should they drop? What's the slot voting rule?

....DROP...TA NEXT OPEN SPOT......IN DESENDIN' ORDER.....WHO TOOK UH HEADER........IN YER CASE.....#5........E. WASHIN'TON.......BRAWK!

[Professor Chaos]

....DROP...TA NEXT OPEN SPOT......IN DESENDIN' ORDER.....WHO TOOK UH HEADER........IN YER CASE.....#5........E. WASHIN'TON.......BRAWK!
Sounds like lazy slot voting to me.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Sounds like lazy slot voting to me.

32265


...OH CONTRARE...BIZON CHIP........WEEK #10....WAS JUST.......NOT DAT COMPLICATED....MINDFUL DAT #6/#7....ALSO DEEP-SIXED.....AN' LET US SAY #8 U.C.DAVIS...HAPPENED....TA PLAY /BEAT #1 SAM HOUSTON...INNA CLOSE ONE...DUH POLLSTER NOW SLIDES MONTANA STATE TA #1....JMU TA #2...WHOM BEAT DUH CAMELS.......LIKE UH MONKEY DINNER.....IN SHANGHAI...UC DAVIS TA SAY #3.....SAM TA #4.... #5 BECOMES SOUFF DAKOTAH STATE......#6 VILLANOVA'S GOOD EFFORT OVERAH ELON...& CAA BIAS......#7 E. WASHINGTON ON LOSS TA NOW #1.....NOW FARGO IS ALL AFLAME AS MIGHTY BIZONSSSSS ARE RELAGATED.....TA #8......8 POINT WHIPPIN'....AN' 2ND BEAT DOWN....BAH JACKS....IN SHORT TIME...BE GLAD NORFFERN IOWA LOST.......OR BIZONS NEED UH PARCHUTE...TA STOP DUH FREE-FALL........SO AS YA SAY SLOTTIN' IS LAZY.......DERE IS WORK TA BE DONE......SEVERAL THINGS HALFTA BE THOUGHT OUT.....MARGIN O' VICTORY...TEAM PERFORMANCE.....ANY FACTORS UH POLLSTER NEEDS TA SPIN HIS REASONS..............BRAWK!

[caribbeanhen]

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: Villanova Wildcats
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
9: UC Davis Aggies
10: Missouri State Bears
11: Sac State Hornets
12: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
13: Kennesaw State Owls
14: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
15: Northern Iowa Panthers
16: Montana Grizzlies
17: Southern Illinois Salukis
18: South Dakota Coyotes
19: Incarnate Word Cardinals
20: Chattanooga Mocs
21: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
22: Jackson State Tigers
23: Monmouth Hawks
24: Holy Cross Crusaders
25: Mercer Bears

The Most Significant Win: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
The Most Significant Loss: Southern Illinois Salukis

Here we go again

[Professor Chaos]

32265


...OH CONTRARE...BIZON CHIP........WEEK #10....WAS JUST.......NOT DAT COMPLICATED....MINDFUL DAT #6/#7....ALSO DEEP-SIXED.....AN' LET US SAY #8 U.C.DAVIS...HAPPENED....TA PLAY /BEAT #1 SAM HOUSTON...INNA CLOSE ONE...DUH POLLSTER NOW SLIDES MONTANA STATE TA #1....JMU TA #2...WHOM BEAT DUH CAMELS.......LIKE UH MONKEY DINNER.....IN SHANGHAI...UC DAVIS TA SAY #3.....SAM TA #4.... #5 BECOMES SOUFF DAKOTAH STATE......#6 VILLANOVA'S GOOD EFFORT OVERAH ELON...& CAA BIAS......#7 E. WASHINGTON ON LOSS TA NOW #1.....NOW FARGO IS ALL AFLAME AS MIGHTY BIZONSSSSS ARE RELAGATED.....TA #8......8 POINT WHIPPIN'....AN' 2ND BEAT DOWN....BAH JACKS....IN SHORT TIME...BE GLAD NORFFERN IOWA LOST.......OR BIZONS NEED UH PARCHUTE...TA STOP DUH FREE-FALL........SO AS YA SAY SLOTTIN' IS LAZY.......DERE IS WORK TA BE DONE......SEVERAL THINGS HALFTA BE THOUGHT OUT.....MARGIN O' VICTORY...TEAM PERFORMANCE.....ANY FACTORS UH POLLSTER NEEDS TA SPIN HIS REASONS..............BRAWK!
Exactly... several things need to be thought out. You're thinking about one thing; head-to-head from last week. Every team has played 7 or 8 additional games to this point other than their game last week and that also needs to be "thought out". At this point when all other things are mostly equal between two teams head-to-head should absolutely come into play. Had SDSU not wet the bed vs SIU or UNI or had NDSU lost to UND or Missouri St in addition to SDSU I would absolutely not be arguing for NDSU to be ranked ahead of SDSU. How come you're not as critical of Southeastern Louisiana being ranked by almost everybody in front of Incarnate Word? Those are actually 2 teams with the same W-L record overall and in-conference yet the loser of the head-to-head matchup is higher in most of the polls posted and in the consensus.

It's also pretty comical you bring up NDSU's loss to SDSU in the spring as additional reasoning to knock NDSU further down and then rank EWU above NDSU... guess the spring only counts for the games you want it to count for huh?

[caribbeanhen]

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: James Madison Dukes
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: Villanova Wildcats
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Missouri State Bears
9: UC Davis Aggies
10: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
11: Sac State Hornets
12: Montana Grizzlies
13: Incarnate Word Cardinals
14: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
15: Southern Illinois Salukis
16: Dartmouth Big Green
17: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
18: Kennesaw State Owls
19: South Dakota Coyotes
20: Chattanooga Mocs
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: Harvard Crimson
23: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
24: Princeton Tigers
25: Jackson State Tigers

caribbeanhen

[MR. CHICKEN]

Exactly... several things need to be thought out. You're thinking about one thing; head-to-head from last week. Every team has played 7 or 8 additional games to this point other than their game last week and that also needs to be "thought out". At this point when all other things are mostly equal between two teams head-to-head should absolutely come into play. Had SDSU not wet the bed vs SIU or UNI or had NDSU lost to UND or Missouri St in addition to SDSU I would absolutely not be arguing for NDSU to be ranked ahead of SDSU. How come you're not as critical of Southeastern Louisiana being ranked by almost everybody in front of Incarnate Word? Those are actually 2 teams with the same W-L record overall and in-conference yet the loser of the head-to-head matchup is higher in most of the polls posted and in the consensus.

It's also pretty comical you bring up NDSU's loss to SDSU in the spring as additional reasoning to knock NDSU further down and then rank EWU above NDSU... guess the spring only counts for the games you want it to count for huh?

..........ALL DAT HAS BEEN THOUGHT OUT BAH NATURE UH RANK IN POLL #9....BAH POLLSTERS WHO DETERMINED POLL #10....AS POLL #10.....TO #11.......BAWK!

.............E.WASH.....3 POINT LOSS TA #3...IS STRONGER......THAN YER 8 POINTER BAH TEAM RANKED #9........DOODLE-DOO!

....S.E. LOUISIANA HAD ASCENDED TA GREATER HEIGHTS @ #6.........INCARNATE WORD WAS #22......JES' TOO MANY SPOTS TA OVERCOME FO' WORD.....AN' JES' 3 POINT LOSS FO' LIONS.......AWK!

[dewey]

.....NO LAD....YA DID THE RIGHT THING........YOU WERE BEATEN BAH 8...BAH UH TEAM.....RANKED 9TH.......WHO BEAT YA'S TWICE...MONTHS APART.........NOT BAH 1....& NOT...ON UH LAST SECOND 69 YD FG.......WHEN WE START LETTIN' LOSERS STAY WHERE THEY WERE....IN POLL..........INTEGRITY IS GONE...........MAJORITY UH AGS VOTERS AGREED....STATS POLL AGREED.........WASN'T UH FBS LOSS......YOU LOSE YOU DROP.........DIDNT THINK BIZONSSSSS....COOD ACCEPT DEFEAT........WHEN YA'S CROWED.......FO' ALL DESE YEARS........NOW YA'S COME OFF AS SORE LOSERS.......BRAWK!

Please post your top 25 poll. Kind of funny calling a fantasy sore losers regarding a top 25 poll that has almost nothing to do with playoffs.

If SDSU had 1 loss I would have a harder time putting NDSU haead of SDSU but the total body of work must be looked at.

This should be very interesting come playoff time.

Dewey

[MR. CHICKEN]

Please post your top 25 poll. Kind of funny calling a fantasy sore losers regarding a top 25 poll that has almost nothing to do with playoffs.

If SDSU had 1 loss I would have a harder time putting NDSU haead of SDSU but the total body of work must be looked at.

This should be very interesting come playoff time.

Dewey


....WELL....WHY YA WORRYIN' 'BOUT THIS ONE...THEN?.........BRAWK!

.....SOUTH DAKOTA STATE...A 2 LOSS TEAM.........MAKES YER LOSS TO 'EM.........DAT MUCH WORSE.......AWK!


1 SAM HOUSTON
2 MONTANA STATE
3 JMU
4 SOUTH DAKOTA STATE
5 UC DAVIS
6 VILLANOVA
7 NORTH DAKOTA STATE
8 E. WASHINGTON
9 E. TENNESSEE STATE
10 MONTANA
11 KENNESAW STATE
12 MISSOURI STATE
13 S.E. LOUISIANA
14 SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
15 TENNESSEE-MARTIN
16 SACREMENTO STATE
17 INCARNATE WORD
18 SOUTH DAKOTA
19 NORTHERN IOWA
20 CHATTANOOGA
21 DARTMOUTH
22 JACKSON STATE
23 RHODE ISLAND
23 VMI
25 PRINCETON

[Preferred Walk-On]

.....NO LAD....YA DID THE RIGHT THING........YOU WERE BEATEN BAH 8...BAH UH TEAM.....RANKED 9TH.......WHO BEAT YA'S TWICE...MONTHS APART.........NOT BAH 1....& NOT...ON UH LAST SECOND 69 YD FG.......WHEN WE START LETTIN' LOSERS STAY WHERE THEY WERE....IN POLL..........INTEGRITY IS GONE...........MAJORITY UH AGS VOTERS AGREED....STATS POLL AGREED.........WASN'T UH FBS LOSS......YOU LOSE YOU DROP.........DIDNT THINK BIZONSSSSS....COOD ACCEPT DEFEAT........WHEN YA'S CROWED.......FO' ALL DESE YEARS........NOW YA'S COME OFF AS SORE LOSERS.......BRAWK!

MR. CHICKEN, just did a quick bit of math regarding voting and NDSU/SDSU prior to the post above.

Voted NDSU over SDSU
Bison Fan(s) = 1
Jacks Fan(s) = 1
Other Team Fan(s) = 3

Voted SDSU over NDSU
Bison Fan(s) = 5
Jacks Fan(s) = 0
Other Team Fan(s) = 1

By this simple math, only one Bison fan (who posted their posted their poll) had NDSU over SDSU, and four fans of other teams (including one Jacks fan) voted NDSU over SDSU. By comparison, five Bison fans voted SDSU over NDSU. If this isn't clear to you, the ratio of Bison fans voting SDSU over NDSU was 5:1...or to put it yet another way, 83.3% of Bison fans (at least those posting their poll) voted SDSU over NDSU.

While I appreciate you posting your poll (after the fact), and I can even support your logic to some extent, it appears that your generalization of Bison fans (at least those currently participating on AGS) is incorrect at best, and it makes me wonder who is really the sore loser?

[POD Knows]

MR. CHICKEN, just did a quick bit of math regarding voting and NDSU/SDSU prior to the post above.

Voted NDSU over SDSU
Bison Fan(s) = 1
Jacks Fan(s) = 1
Other Team Fan(s) = 3

Voted SDSU over NDSU
Bison Fan(s) = 5
Jacks Fan(s) = 0
Other Team Fan(s) = 1

By this simple math, only one Bison fan (who posted their posted their poll) had NDSU over SDSU, and four fans of other teams (including one Jacks fan) voted NDSU over SDSU. By comparison, five Bison fans voted SDSU over NDSU. If this isn't clear to you, the ratio of Bison fans voting SDSU over NDSU was 5:1...or to put it yet another way, 83.3% of Bison fans (at least those posting their poll) voted SDSU over NDSU.

While I appreciate you posting your poll (after the fact), and I can even support your logic to some extent, it appears that your generalization of Bison fans (at least those currently participating on AGS) is incorrect at best, and it makes me wonder who is really the sore loser?
Bison fans have been accused for years on here of overvaluing them in this poll and that assumption has always been incorrect and proven to be incorrect. Nice work putting this together. I even think at one point Ursus had commented on this subject.

[MR. CHICKEN]

MR. CHICKEN, just did a quick bit of math regarding voting and NDSU/SDSU prior to the post above.

Voted NDSU over SDSU
Bison Fan(s) = 1
Jacks Fan(s) = 1
Other Team Fan(s) = 3

Voted SDSU over NDSU
Bison Fan(s) = 5
Jacks Fan(s) = 0
Other Team Fan(s) = 1

By this simple math, only one Bison fan (who posted their posted their poll) had NDSU over SDSU, and four fans of other teams (including one Jacks fan) voted NDSU over SDSU. By comparison, five Bison fans voted SDSU over NDSU. If this isn't clear to you, the ratio of Bison fans voting SDSU over NDSU was 5:1...or to put it yet another way, 83.3% of Bison fans (at least those posting their poll) voted SDSU over NDSU.

While I appreciate you posting your poll (after the fact), and I can even support your logic to some extent, it appears that your generalization of Bison fans (at least those currently participating on AGS) is incorrect at best, and it makes me wonder who is really the sore loser?

....WELL IT WAS CHAOS.....WHOM WAS UPSET TA BEGIN WHIFF....(POST #2)......ALL-DOUGH DEWEY......HAD BIZONSSSSS #5........HE TOOK UP CHAOS'S CAUSE.......ALK!

......HOW YA FIGURE.....AH'M DUH SORE LOSER.................AS AGS/STATS....AGREE WHIFF ME......BAWK!

.....MAH POLL WAS POSTED AFTERAH DUH FACT......'CAUSE IT WAS AFTER DUH FACT HE ASKED....FO' IT..........BRAWK!

[caribbeanhen]

Bison fans have been accused for years on here of overvaluing them in this poll and that assumption has always been incorrect and proven to be incorrect. Nice work putting this together. I even think at one point Ursus had commented on this subject.

MVFV fans are by far and away the most bias fans on here, and your boys have paid the price in the Playoff pick em games for years

6-5 Illinois St picked over Central Arky a few years ago was prime example

[Professor Chaos]

....WELL IT WAS CHAOS.....WHOM WAS UPSET TA BEGIN WHIFF....(POST #2)......ALL-DOUGH DEWEY......HAD BIZONSSSSS #5........HE TOOK UP CHAOS'S DEFENSE.......ALK!

......HOW YA FIGURE.....AH'M DUH SORE LOSER.................AS AGS/STATS....AGREE WHIFF ME......BAWK!

.....MAH POLL WAS POSTED AFTERAH DUH FACT......'CAUSE IT WAS AFTER DUH FACT HE ASKED....FO' IT..........BRAWK!
I'm just trying to point out how inconsistent your reasoning is. NDSU's loss to SDSU looks worse because SDSU's lost two games? How about SDSU losing to a 4 loss UNI? Or Villanova's (who you have ranked over NDSU) loss to a 3 loss William & Mary? Or UC Davis' (who you also have ranked over NDSU) loss to a 8 loss Idaho St (still Idaho St's only win of the year)?

I don't know if you're still butthurt over the fake FG against Delaware 2 years ago or if you're just sick of NDSU being ranked so high but in either case you're holding NDSU to a different standard than you are some other teams you have ranked above them.

[POD Knows]

MVFV fans are by far and away the most bias fans on here, and your boys have paid the price in the Playoff pick em games for years

6-5 Illinois St picked over Central Arky a few years ago was prime example
The conference is rated higher and that sort of lifts teams with potentially more losses. I don’t remember the circumstances on that one. What year was it. Also. I didn’t realize that the MVFC fans choose the playoff teams or are you saying that the MVFC fans were upset by ILL State getting passed over.

I, for one, want less MVFC teams in the playoffs, that helps to water down the field and make the path easier for the Herd. 😁

[Professor Chaos]

MVFV fans are by far and away the most bias fans on here, and your boys have paid the price in the Playoff pick em games for years

6-5 Illinois St picked over Central Arky a few years ago was prime example
You mean like 2 years ago when unseeded (T-3rd in the MVFC) Illinois St went to Conway and beat 8 seed (T-1st in the SLC) UCA on the road in the 2nd round?

[caribbeanhen]

You mean like 2 years ago when unseeded (T-3rd in the MVFC) Illinois St went to Conway and beat 8 seed (T-1st in the SLC) UCA on the road in the 2nd round?

dont tell me that, I remember it being the opposite way

Maybe it was a Richmond game the next week or something like that

[MR. CHICKEN]

I'm just trying to point out how inconsistent your reasoning is. NDSU's loss to SDSU looks worse because SDSU's lost two games? How about SDSU losing to a 4 loss UNI? Or Villanova's (who you have ranked over NDSU) loss to a 3 loss William & Mary? Or UC Davis' (who you also have ranked over NDSU) loss to a 8 loss Idaho St (still Idaho St's only win of the year)?

I don't know if you're still butthurt over the fake FG against Delaware 2 years ago or if you're just sick of NDSU being ranked so high but in either case you're holding NDSU to a different standard than you are some other teams you have ranked above them.

...INCONSISTENT ?.......DOO-DOO SAYS....HE'D UNDERSTAND JACKS RANKIN' IFIN' DEY'RE UH ONE LOSS TEAM.....BUT DEY'VE LOST TWO.....WHICH IFIN' FOLLOWIN' HIS LOGIC....WOOD MAKE YER LOSS DAT MUCH WORSE....AWK!

....COMMON KNOWLEDGE......WHEN YA LOSE MATTERS...END UH YEAR VS BEGINNIN'.....BRAWK!

.....VILLANOVA.......BEAT DUH CURRENT #3....DEY'VE POSTED TWO SHUTOUTS......BILL & MARE WAS IN CONTENTION WHEN DEY PLAYED.....BALK!

.....UC DAVIS...HAS TULSA'S PELT....&...AN' DEY'RE LOSS WAS UH FEW WEEKS AGO!

.........NO SORE ASS ON DUH CHICKEN.......YOU HAD US BEAT LONG B/4 DUH TRICKERY.........YER COACH WAS UPSET....DAT YOU-DEE WAS MAKIN' UH COME-BACK....WHIFF 2ND STRING QB!......DOODLE-DOO-DOO!

[Professor Chaos]

...INCONSISTENT ?.......DOO-DOO SAYS....HE'D UNDERSTAND JACKS RANKIN' IFIN' DEY'RE UH ONE LOSS TEAM.....BUT DEY'VE LOST TWO.....WHICH IFIN' FOLLOWIN' HIS LOGIC....WOOD MAKE YER LOSS DAT MUCH WORSE....AWK!

....COMMON KNOWLEDGE......WHEN YA LOSE MATTERS...END UH YEAR VS BEGINNIN'.....BRAWK!

.....VILLANOVA.......BEAT DUH CURRENT #3....DEY'VE POSTED TWO SHUTOUTS......BILL & MARE WAS IN CONTENTION WHEN DEY PLAYED.....BALK!

.....UC DAVIS...HAS TULSA'S PELT....&...AN' DEY'RE LOSS WAS UH FEW WEEKS AGO!
We're just going to have to agree to disagree. You believe slot voting and recency bias are valid poll methodology. I don't. We're not changing each other's minds. End of story.

[Preferred Walk-On]

....WELL IT WAS CHAOS.....WHOM WAS UPSET TA BEGIN WHIFF....(POST #2)......ALL-DOUGH DEWEY......HAD BIZONSSSSS #5........HE TOOK UP CHAOS'S DEFENSE.......ALK!

......HOW YA FIGURE.....AH'M DUH SORE LOSER.................AS AGS/STATS....AGREE WHIFF ME......BAWK!

.....MAH POLL WAS POSTED AFTERAH DUH FACT......'CAUSE IT WAS AFTER DUH FACT HE ASKED....FO' IT..........BRAWK!

I can see Chaos' perspective, just as I can see yours. I clearly fall a bit along your lines, but I have also seen the competition (a few in-person) that SDSU has played and am baffled by their UNI loss (who then lost to ISUr and who NDSU surprisingly handled without much fuss...honestly, I was disappointed that that game was not more competitive).

I also watched a game (probably with my Green and Gold glasses on), but it took SDSU ripping off a long TD run early through a hole that even I could have gained 20 yd on to start the game, having to pull out many tricks in their playbook, and some bafflingly stupid plays and penalties by the Bison to hold the Bison off in the second half after taking a 24-7 lead into halftime. That SDSU team is very good but was not head-and-shoulders above (or honestly, even better than) NDSU, so I could see one not ranking SDSU above NDSU (but not by much). They happened to be better than NDSU on that day...during a 3 hr period, but one could still make the argument for resume as-a-whole rather than the H2H result, so...

Why do you assume Bison fans are sore losers with no evidence to support that? I didn't call you a sore loser, I said "it makes me wonder who is really the sore loser?". You DID say that Bison fans come off as sore losers (paraphrasing your statement), so perhaps you should ask yourself, "HOW YA FIGURE?". I am a Bison fan. I ranked NDSU below SDSU. So am I a sore loser? Quite honestly, I am fine with SDSU taking home the marker...they played better and they deserve it. I am also fine, because it seems like in every year where the Bison were very good, but have flaws, a wake-up call has helped the team focus a bit come playoff time.

Unsolicited advice, perhaps you could put your poll out there, THEN criticize others. In my opinion, that shows some integrity and provides context for when you "discuss" others opinions (hopefully without calling them sore losers like a 5-year old). I can appreciate your opinions, and I would appreciate them more without the generalizations.

[MR. CHICKEN]

We're just going to have to agree to disagree. You believe slot voting and recency bias are valid poll methodology. I don't. We're not changing each other's minds. End of story.

MAH POLL WAS HARDLY SLOT VOTIN'........AH HAD YA'S @ #7......MAJORITY #5.......AH HAD RHODE ISLAND.....IN DERE..........#23......AN' REMAINDER......WERE CONSISTENT.....WHIFF DUH MASSES.....SO IFIN' AH SLOTTED....DUH MAJORITY SURE DID WHIFF BIZONSSSS......DEY JUST SLID YA'S DOWN TA FIRST OPENIN'....WHICH WAS E. WASH'S SPOT.....BAWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

I can see Chaos' perspective, just as I can see yours. I clearly fall a bit along your lines, but I have also seen the competition (a few in-person) that SDSU has played and am baffled by their UNI loss (who then lost to ISUr and who NDSU surprisingly handled without much fuss...honestly, I was disappointed that that game was not more competitive).

I also watched a game (probably with my Green and Gold glasses on), but it took SDSU ripping off a long TD run early through a hole that even I could have gained 20 yd on to start the game, having to pull out many tricks in their playbook, and some bafflingly stupid plays and penalties by the Bison to hold the Bison off in the second half after taking a 24-7 lead into halftime. That SDSU team is very good but was not head-and-shoulders above (or honestly, even better than) NDSU, so I could see one not ranking SDSU above NDSU (but not by much). They happened to be better than NDSU on that day...during a 3 hr period, but one could still make the argument for resume as-a-whole rather than the H2H result, so...

Why do you assume Bison fans are sore losers with no evidence to support that? I didn't call you a sore loser, I said "it makes me wonder who is really the sore loser?". You DID say that Bison fans come off as sore losers (paraphrasing your statement), so perhaps you should ask yourself, "HOW YA FIGURE?". I am a Bison fan. I ranked NDSU below SDSU. So am I a sore loser? Quite honestly, I am fine with SDSU taking home the marker...they played better and they deserve it. I am also fine, because it seems like in every year where the Bison were very good, but have flaws, a wake-up call has helped the team focus a bit come playoff time.

.....EVIDENCE IS IN POST #2/DEWEY'S CHIMIN' IN.....AH WAS COMMENTIN' ON THESE TWO'S PERSPECTIVE.....THUS PLURAL....(FANS).......AH'VE READ DUH ENTIRE THREAD....SOME BISONS ARE REASONABLE...ONE HAD YA'S @ #6.....BAWK!

Unsolicited advice, perhaps you could put your poll out there, THEN criticize others. In my opinion, that shows some integrity and provides context for when you "discuss" others opinions (hopefully without calling them sore losers like a 5-year old). I can appreciate your opinions, and I would appreciate them more without the generalizations.

...AH'VE NOW POSTED MAH POLL TWICE DIS SEASON......AH 'M 74 YEARS 'OL.....DON'T KNOW HOW TA TRANSFER E-MAIL INTA THREAD.....SO AH DO IT DUH HARD WAY.......AN' RETYPE 'EM ALL IN....SO AH'M RELUCTANT TA DO IT EVERY WEEK.........MODS HAVE NEVER....HAD UH PROB....WHIFF ME..AWK!

[semobison]

dont tell me that, I remember it being the opposite way

Maybe it was a Richmond game the next week or something like that

Richmond beat Seeded ISUr in 2015 the same year UNI (4-3 in Valley play) beat 6 seed PSU on the road.
In 2016 Youngstown (3rd place in the Valley) made their run to the Natty beating the 2 and 3 seed. But you don’t count that because the Penguins caught “lightning in a bottle”! ...and people tell me my memory is the 2nd shortest thing that I’ve got!

[POD Knows]

...AH'VE NOW POSTED MAH POLL TWICE DIS SEASON......AH 'M 74 YEARS 'OL.....DON'T KNOW HOW TA TRANSFER E-MAIL INTA THREAD.....SO AH DO IT DUH HARD WAY.......AN' RETYPE 'EM ALL IN....SO AH'M RELUCTANT TA DO IT EVERY WEEK.........MODS HAVE NEVER....HAD UH PROB....WHIFF ME..AWK!
Do you use a laptop or a cell phone to post on here. Copy and pasting is pretty easy on both. I had to retype my poll once because I deleted my email response. I would never post my poll if I had to do that again.

[MR. CHICKEN]

...AH CAN COPY/PASTE....JES' DIDN'T KNOW DAT WAS DUH PROCEDURE......THANKS FO' HELP!.....AWKhttps://data.mail.yahoo.com/xobni/v4/contacts/0000.0020/photo?spsize=80X80&fallback_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs.yimg.com%2Fdh%2Fap%2F social%2Fprofile%2Fprofile_a64.png&alphatar_photo=true&appId=YMailNorrin&badge=false





Sun, Nov 7 at 2:33 PM



Hello MR. CHICKEN,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/7/2021 9:53:33

Your vote is listed below.


1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: UC Davis Aggies
6: Villanova Wildcats
7: North Dakota State Bison
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
10: Montana Grizzlies
11: Kennesaw State Owls
12: Missouri State Bears
13: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
14: Southern Illinois Salukis
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Sac State Hornets
17: Incarnate Word Cardinals
18: South Dakota Coyotes
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Chattanooga Mocs
21: Dartmouth Big Green
22: Jackson State Tigers
23: Rhode Island Rams
24: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
25: Princeton Tigers

MR. CHICKEN

The Most Significant Win: Montana State Bobcats
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota State Bison
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Colonial Athletic Association

[POD Knows]

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Sun, Nov 7 at 2:33 PM



Hello MR. CHICKEN,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/7/2021 9:53:33

Your vote is listed below.


1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: UC Davis Aggies
6: Villanova Wildcats
7: North Dakota State Bison
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
10: Montana Grizzlies
11: Kennesaw State Owls
12: Missouri State Bears
13: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
14: Southern Illinois Salukis
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Sac State Hornets
17: Incarnate Word Cardinals
18: South Dakota Coyotes
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Chattanooga Mocs
21: Dartmouth Big Green
22: Jackson State Tigers
23: Rhode Island Rams
24: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
25: Princeton Tigers

MR. CHICKEN

The Most Significant Win: Montana State Bobcats
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota State Bison
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Colonial Athletic Association





Perfect. You are golden

[Preferred Walk-On]

...AH'VE NOW POSTED MAH POLL TWICE DIS SEASON......AH 'M 74 YEARS 'OL.....DON'T KNOW HOW TA TRANSFER E-MAIL INTA THREAD.....SO AH DO IT DUH HARD WAY.......AN' RETYPE 'EM ALL IN....SO AH'M RELUCTANT TA DO IT EVERY WEEK.........MODS HAVE NEVER....HAD UH PROB....WHIFF ME..AWK!

MR. CHICKEN. We're all good, and I don't have a problem with you either. However, I am a Bison fan, and I try to be reasonable on this forum, so I guess I expect some similar discourse. If you wanted to call Chaos and Dewey sore losers, you could have directed that towards them specifically and not Bison fans in general. This type of generalization is why fans of some teams feel that fans of other teams are insufferable. I get it. I am on AGS, because I like reading reasonable, well thought out, multi-perspective opinions on FCS football that I don't necessarily get from a team-specific forum.

As for transferring poll into thread, it is (1) select text, (2) control-C (copy), (3) go to AGS reply box, and (4) control-V (paste). Given that you do AGS so well (quoting and posting), I just assumed copy/paste would be child's play. I would not retype them all either, I just copy/paste important text from the email I receive from AGS Polls. One could also copy/paste from a document/sheet they use (if they use one), especially if they wanted to post in ALL CAPS. ;)

[Preferred Walk-On]

Ah, I see copy/paste was addressed as I was typing.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Perfect. You are golden




...............MUST SPREAD REPPIES.....WHEN I CAN.....DEY'LL BE ON DUH WAY........xhugx.......AWK!

[Chalupa Batman]

dont tell me that, I remember it being the opposite way

Maybe it was a Richmond game the next week or something like that

No idea how the pick 'ems you refer to went, but you do remember correctly. In 2016 6-5 ISUr travelled to Conway for a 1st round game and lost 31-24.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/400926624


PC's counterpoint was a rematch 3 years later when James Robinson ran all over the #8 seed Bears and won 24-14.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401187276

[kdinva]

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: UC Davis Aggies
7: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
10: Montana Grizzlies
11: Incarnate Word Cardinals
12: Kennesaw State Owls
13: Southern Illinois Salukis
14: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
15: Sac State Hornets
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Missouri State Bears
18: Chattanooga Mocs
19: Jackson State Tigers
20: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
21: South Dakota Coyotes
22: Mercer Bears
23: Northern Iowa Panthers
24: Dartmouth Big Green
25: Monmouth Hawks


The Most Significant Win: Incarnate Word Cardinals
The Most Significant Loss: Virginia Military Institute Keydets

[MSUBobcat]

...AH'VE NOW POSTED MAH POLL TWICE DIS SEASON......AH 'M 74 YEARS 'OL.....DON'T KNOW HOW TA TRANSFER E-MAIL INTA THREAD.....SO AH DO IT DUH HARD WAY.......AN' RETYPE 'EM ALL IN....SO AH'M RELUCTANT TA DO IT EVERY WEEK.........MODS HAVE NEVER....HAD UH PROB....WHIFF ME..AWK!

Holy unnecessary SHOUTING, Batman! Bolded, capitalized, size 4 and SIZE SIX font is a bit excessive for a discussion of this nature. I'm picturing you standing on the table/desk pounding on the keyboard shouting at the screen.

And now back to your regularly scheduled banter about poll voting methodology...

[caribbeanhen]

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: UC Davis Aggies
9: Missouri State Bears
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
12: Southern Illinois Salukis
13: Sac State Hornets
14: Kennesaw State Owls
15: Incarnate Word Cardinals
16: Chattanooga Mocs
17: Montana Grizzlies
18: South Dakota Coyotes
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Dartmouth Big Green
21: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
22: Jackson State Tigers
23: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
24: Princeton Tigers
25: Holy Cross Crusaders

The Most Significant Win: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
The Most Significant Loss: William & Mary Tribe
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

consider Harvard at #25

[caribbeanhen]

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: UC Davis Aggies
7: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
10: Montana Grizzlies
11: Incarnate Word Cardinals
12: Kennesaw State Owls
13: Southern Illinois Salukis
14: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
15: Sac State Hornets
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Missouri State Bears
18: Chattanooga Mocs
19: Jackson State Tigers
20: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
21: South Dakota Coyotes
22: Mercer Bears
23: Northern Iowa Panthers
24: Dartmouth Big Green
25: Monmouth Hawks


The Most Significant Win: Incarnate Word Cardinals
The Most Significant Loss: Virginia Military Institute Keydets

Consider Princeton at #25

[Preferred Walk-On]

Consider Princeton at #25

I'm beginning to think caribbean is a paid influencer for the Ivy League. What does caribbean's Twitter/Instagram account look like? ;)

[caribbeanhen]

I'm beginning to think caribbean is a paid influencer for the Ivy League. What does caribbean's Twitter/Instagram account look like? ;)

xsmhxxsmhx

Twiiter ?

Instagram ?

Too much Information runnin round my brain

just ain't necessary to function in this world

I just like pointing out how people find it so easy to skip over the Ivies

[Preferred Walk-On]

xsmhxxsmhx

Twiiter ?

Instagram ?

Too much Information runnin round my brain

just ain't necessary to function in this world

I just like pointing out how people find it so easy to skip over the Ivies

Almost to a fault... ;)

[caribbeanhen]

You mean like 2 years ago when unseeded (T-3rd in the MVFC) Illinois St went to Conway and beat 8 seed (T-1st in the SLC) UCA on the road in the 2nd round?

Nope, the year Illinois State was 6-5 was game I was referring to, and got beat by Central Arkansas

And the year before when Richmond went into Normal, Illinois and beat the Redbirds

The homer MVFC picks were off the charts for both games

[caribbeanhen]

MR. CHICKEN. We're all good, and I don't have a problem with you either. However, I am a Bison fan, and I try to be reasonable on this forum, so I guess I expect some similar discourse. If you wanted to call Chaos and Dewey sore losers, you could have directed that towards them specifically and not Bison fans in general. This type of generalization is why fans of some teams feel that fans of other teams are insufferable. I get it. I am on AGS, because I like reading reasonable, well thought out, multi-perspective opinions on FCS football that I don't necessarily get from a team-specific forum.

As for transferring poll into thread, it is (1) select text, (2) control-C (copy), (3) go to AGS reply box, and (4) control-V (paste). Given that you do AGS so well (quoting and posting), I just assumed copy/paste would be child's play. I would not retype them all either, I just copy/paste important text from the email I receive from AGS Polls. One could also copy/paste from a document/sheet they use (if they use one), especially if they wanted to post in ALL CAPS. ;)

Im glad you mentioned Mr C’s posts and how tech savvy one would need to be to do what he does

remember some of old timers never saw a computer until 50 years of age

and some still don’t use em unless an iPhone is a computer

[semobison]

Nope, the year Illinois State was 6-5 was game I was referring to, and got beat by Arkansas St

And the year before when Richmond went into Normal, Illinois and beat the Redbirds

The homer MVFC picks were off the charts for both games



I posted this before...The same year the Redbirds lost to Richmond a 3rd place in the Valley UNI went on the road and beat 6 seed PSU. The following year a 3rd place in the Valley Youngstown knocked off the 2 and 3 seeds on their way to the Natty.
4 different Valley teams have made it to Frisco since 2014. The rest of the FCS combined has only 4 other teams SH, JMU, JSU and EWU to make the title game.
Your only a homer if your teams under achieve!

[caribbeanhen]

I posted this before...The same year the Redbirds lost to Richmond a 3rd place in the Valley UNI went on the road and beat 6 seed PSU. The following year a 3rd place in the Valley Youngstown knocked off the 2 and 3 seeds on their way to the Natty.
4 different Valley teams have made it to Frisco since 2014. The rest of the FCS combined has only 4 other teams SH, JMU, JSU and EWU to make the title game.
Your only a homer if your teams under achieve!

but in all those years, only one Valley team won the title

That is what earned you the Paul McCartney and Wings nickname

Everybody knows Paul but who the heck are Wings anyway

[ursus arctos horribilis]

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Sun, Nov 7 at 2:33 PM



Hello MR. CHICKEN,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/7/2021 9:53:33

Your vote is listed below.


1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: UC Davis Aggies
6: Villanova Wildcats
7: North Dakota State Bison
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
10: Montana Grizzlies
11: Kennesaw State Owls
12: Missouri State Bears
13: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
14: Southern Illinois Salukis
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Sac State Hornets
17: Incarnate Word Cardinals
18: South Dakota Coyotes
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Chattanooga Mocs
21: Dartmouth Big Green
22: Jackson State Tigers
23: Rhode Island Rams
24: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
25: Princeton Tigers

MR. CHICKEN

The Most Significant Win: Montana State Bobcats
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota State Bison
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Colonial Athletic Association






Check that **** out! Nicely done on the newfound expertise in the poll post brother.

As far as having a problem with your ballot, no, never had any problem with most anyone's poll and if I do I always have a conversation as to any questions. Most of the time it just a way to understand what the think is/was and if someone had considered something they might not have.

But there is no question I have no problem with any Bison voters either. There is a 100% chance that their ballots are done with integrity just as I could also say about Delaware voters. The Delaware and Bison voters are ties for the #1 most important thing that gives this poll a strong backbone.

We all have differing philosophies. I am all for that as long as the logic is applied.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

dont tell me that, I remember it being the opposite way

Maybe it was a Richmond game the next week or something like that

xlolx

I hate it whan that happens. BTW, I watch for conference bias, team bias, etc. and test for it a few times a season. The conferences voters traditionally vote their group lower than the voters outside of their group so I don't care what they or anyone does in a pick em'. This is more direct evidence than that so take it to the bank, bet the farm on it, or whatever kind of lock you want to put down on that information.

[Puddin Tane]

Sooooo. How many losses does uni get fore yall kick em to the curb ? 5? 6?

[Preferred Walk-On]

Sooooo. How many losses does uni get fore yall kick em to the curb ? 5? 6?

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211111/2532aad25e5eae596fa1b967e31f65b0.gif
5, 6…Whatever it takes.


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[caribbeanhen]

xlolx

I hate it whan that happens. BTW, I watch for conference bias, team bias, etc. and test for it a few times a season. The conferences voters traditionally vote their group lower than the voters outside of their group so I don't care what they or anyone does in a pick em'. This is more direct evidence than that so take it to the bank, bet the farm on it, or whatever kind of lock you want to put down on that information.

I know the Valley fans polls are pretty good and yes, I’m probably the only guy in the world that pays attention to bias in the Playoff pick em games....

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Sooooo. How many losses does uni get fore yall kick em to the curb ? 5? 6?

Good point, any team got 3 better wins? Subjectivity gets tough. They also lost to a fairly good FBS which UNI held to about 1/2 the points any of those FBS schools did. It ain't easy but you can't just look at 1/2 the ledger.

I think if you look solely a teams floor and don't look at their ceiling you might be doing things half assed. At 5-4 it is real iffy, no doubt about it.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I know the Valley fans polls are pretty good and yes, I’m probably the only guy in the world that pays attention to bias in the Playoff pick em games....

No my brother that was not my point. I think in a pick em' type game players might play for the win and go with what they wish to be sometimes. I know that is a fault of mine, look for the upset etc.

On a poll, I think it is different. There seems to be an integrity in the vote that would be unexpected by many, including me, before I started doing this. Voters have a great deal of integrity. I promise you that.

[F'N Hawks]

Sooooo. How many losses does uni get fore yall kick em to the curb ? 5? 6?

it's usually at least five.