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kdinva
March 15th, 2021, 12:13 PM
http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?week=24&div=1aa



1
James Madison (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0196) (3-0)
975 (28)
1


2
North Dakota (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0308) (4-0)
944 (10)
3


3
Weber State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0119) (2-0)
943 (2)
2


4
North Dakota State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0309) (4-1)
829
5


5
Southern Illinois (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0124) (4-1)
815
10


6
South Dakota State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0312) (3-1)
811
8


7
Sam Houston (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0184) (2-0)
743
12


8
Jacksonville State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0247) (6-1)
716
10


9
Kennesaw State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2610) (2-0)
707
9


10
UNI (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0123) (2-2)
639
4


11
Chattanooga (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0177) (2-1)
483
14


12
Delaware (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0195) (2-0)
464
19


13
Furman (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0174) (3-1)
443
15


14
Villanova (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0199) (1-1)
438
6


15
Eastern Washington (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0113) (2-1)
425
16


16
Southeastern Louisiana (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2234) (2-1)
394
18


17
Nicholls (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0181) (3-1)
357
7


18
Albany (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0546) (1-1)
255
13


19
VMI (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0178) (3-0)
253
NR


20
New Hampshire (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0205) (0-1)
228
17


21
UC Davis (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0263) (1-1)
182
23


22
UIW (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2539) (2-0)
179
25


23
Richmond (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0198) (2-0)
150
NR


24
Jackson State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0190) (3-0)
141
NR


25
Murray State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0154) (3-0)
90
NR


Others: Monmouth (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0216) (71) , Idaho (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0114) (60) , Rhode Island (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0206) (58) , Gardner-Webb (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0351) (38) , Illinois State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0121) (31) , Maine (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0203) (26) , South Dakota (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0311) (20) , Austin Peay (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0150) (16) , Tarleton State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0262) (15) , San Diego (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0169) (14) , Wofford (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0267) (14) , ETSU (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0173) (5)

dewey
March 15th, 2021, 12:33 PM
Ummm. Sam Houston behind NDSU and SDSU?

Really? After the whooping the Bearkats gave Nicholls?

James Madison #1

Southern Illinois behind NDSU?

Just to start.

Dewey

Professor Chaos
March 15th, 2021, 12:35 PM
Ummm. Sam Houston behind NDSU and SDSU?

Really? After the whooping the Bearkats gave Nicholls?

James Madison #1

Southern Illinois behind NDSU?

Just to start.

Dewey
Hey, it's getting better at least. Last week they had NDSU 5 spots ahead of SIU and UNI was ahead of SDSU.

Go Lehigh TU owl
March 15th, 2021, 12:39 PM
SHSU is criminally underrated! That win over Nicholls (granted I know it's spring football) is one of the craziest I've seen in 20+ years of following FCS at a national level.

Holy Cross should at least be receiving votes. They're not flashy but they are VERY well coached. That and a very sound defense could make them a tough out in the playoffs.

TheKingpin28
March 15th, 2021, 01:02 PM
I'm not even going to try and explain this debacle. This clearly shows how bad the media is at voting. Joke of a poll.

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dewey
March 15th, 2021, 01:07 PM
Hey, it's getting better at least. Last week they had NDSU 5 spots ahead of SIU and UNI was ahead of SDSU.

Agreed. Too bad these scores of the games are not easier to find (dripping with sarcasm).

Furman at 13 but VMI is at 19. Even though VMI beat Furman.

Dewey

dewey
March 15th, 2021, 01:09 PM
SHSU is criminally underrated! That win over Nicholls (granted I know it's spring football) is one of the craziest I've seen in 20+ years of following FCS at a national level.

I was shocked to see how badly SHSU beat Nicholls. I wish more STATS voters would post their top 25.

Dewey

Preferred Walk-On
March 15th, 2021, 01:19 PM
Agreed. Too bad these scores of the games are not easier to find (dripping with sarcasm).

Furman at 13 but VMI is at 19. Even though VMI beat Furman.

Dewey

Sam Houston State - my apologies...you deserve much better.
Delaware - best team in the CAA, and 12 spots behind the third best?
Virginia Military Institute - congratulations on being ranked AND beating Furman
Furman - congratulations on your reputation alone carrying you into the top 15.
Southeastern Louisiana - after seeing Sam Houston State this weekend, it appears you are being shafted by pollsters.

POD Knows
March 15th, 2021, 01:42 PM
Sam Houston State - my apologies...you deserve much better.
Delaware - best team in the CAA, and 12 spots behind the third best?
Virginia Military Institute - congratulations on being ranked AND beating Furman
Furman - congratulations on your reputation alone carrying you into the top 15.
Southeastern Louisiana - after seeing Sam Houston State this weekend, it appears you are being shafted by pollsters.And rep has NDSU at 4 or it is probably just name recognition.

Preferred Walk-On
March 15th, 2021, 01:47 PM
And rep has NDSU at 4 or it is probably just name recognition.

Probably both. I agree, MVFC order is not right, but I might argue that the order of the CAA or SoCon teams is atrocious compared to the MVFC order. That is why I did not make such a big deal about it, but I do agree with you that NDSU is too high over some well-deserving teams (at least at this point in the season).

Libertine
March 15th, 2021, 02:11 PM
March 15, 2021: the first day in recorded memory that people on AGS complained about VMI being ranked too low.

This is such a weird year.

Also, Wachenheim deserves a statue in Lexington.

skinny_uncle
March 15th, 2021, 02:17 PM
Agreed. Too bad these scores of the games are not easier to find (dripping with sarcasm).

Furman at 13 but VMI is at 19. Even though VMI beat Furman.

Dewey
https://www.ncaa.com/scoreboard/football/fcs

Chalupa Batman
March 15th, 2021, 02:28 PM
I stopped reading after #4. Trash


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ASU33
March 15th, 2021, 02:51 PM
So Jackson State beat teams that are a combined 1-5 but gets into the top 25? Crazy world!

POD Knows
March 15th, 2021, 02:57 PM
So Jackson State beat teams that are a combined 1-5 but gets into the top 25? Crazy world!Yep, they got you guys and then Prairie View, could be interesting.

TheKingpin28
March 15th, 2021, 03:05 PM
Yep, they got you guys and then Prairie View, could be interesting.

That's what I am waiting for. I want to see them beat the class of the SWAC. If they do that, they would go into mine easily.

POD Knows
March 15th, 2021, 03:07 PM
That's what I am waiting for. I want to see them beat the class of the SWAC. If they do that, they would go into mine easily.I have them at 24 in my poll, when I post it tomorrow I am more than willing to take some advice as to who to have in those final spots, it is a cluster.

And I see STATS has them at 24 which makes me question my position on them even more.

TheKingpin28
March 15th, 2021, 03:19 PM
I have them at 24 in my poll, when I post it tomorrow I am more than willing to take some advice as to who to have in those final spots, it is a cluster.

And I see STATS has them at 24 which makes me question my position on them even more.

For me around 15-17 or so, it felt like it became a dartboard exercise.

caribbeanhen
March 15th, 2021, 03:46 PM
From the guy that had Sammy number 1 and VMI ranked number 20 in my week one poll

Rhode Island should be in the top 25

Eyeball test

Chalupa Batman
March 15th, 2021, 03:53 PM
From the guy that had Sammy number 1 and VMI ranked number 20 in my week one poll

Rhode Island should be in the top 25

Eyeball test

I’m debating whether to put them or Richmond in the poll.


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KPSUL
March 15th, 2021, 04:12 PM
I’m debating whether to put them or Richmond in the poll.


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Put-em both in. It's not like there is any clear justification for the last 7-8 teams in any one of the polls so far this year.. If they lose this upcoming weekend, take-em out.

caribbeanhen
March 15th, 2021, 04:17 PM
Put-em both in. It's not like there is any clear justification for the last 7-8 teams in any one of the polls so far this year.. If they lose this upcoming weekend, take-em out.

agree

KPSUL
March 15th, 2021, 04:18 PM
SHSU is criminally underrated! That win over Nicholls (granted I know it's spring football) is one of the craziest I've seen in 20+ years of following FCS at a national level.

Holy Cross should at least be receiving votes. They're not flashy but they are VERY well coached. That and a very sound defense could make them a tough out in the playoffs.

Is SHSU criminally underrated or is Nicholls criminally overrated? I've got the Cross in the Top 25, As has been mentioned elsewhere here, you're giving anyone ranked like 17-25 the benefit of the doubt - why not the Cross?

Chalupa Batman
March 15th, 2021, 04:30 PM
Put-em both in. It's not like there is any clear justification for the last 7-8 teams in any one of the polls so far this year.. If they lose this upcoming weekend, take-em out.

Then I gotta decide who to take out. I pretty much have 26 teams at this point and not sure who I would remove to put them both in. My thinking is since they’re the only 2 I haven’t got to watch I’m including the “knowns” and adding 1 of the “unknowns.”


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nodak651
March 15th, 2021, 04:35 PM
So Jackson State beat teams that are a combined 1-5 but gets into the top 25? Crazy world!

Doesn't seem to be a problem for James Madison...

KPSUL
March 15th, 2021, 04:44 PM
Doesn't seem to be a problem for James Madison...

Actually the combined records of JMU's three opponents so far is 1-6. But your point is well taken - JMU's performance so far this year certainly does not warrant the #1 ranking.

caribbeanhen
March 15th, 2021, 04:48 PM
Then I gotta decide who to take out. I pretty much have 26 teams at this point and not sure who I would remove to put them both in. My thinking is since they’re the only 2 I haven’t got to watch I’m including the “knowns” and adding 1 of the “unknowns.”


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Albany out

Monmouth?

KPSUL
March 15th, 2021, 05:05 PM
Albany out

Monmouth?

Albany deserves one more week and a shot at reaching 2-1 before being dumped from the Top 25. Ask any CAA coach how tough it is to play back to back games away at New Hampshire and Maine, they won one and lost the second going down to the last play of the game in both. Drop UNH before Albany, it really makes no difference anyway. If we pull an upset vs your Hens this week we are a solid ranked team, if we lose we will, and should, be off the Top 25 radar for the season unless we manage to win our remaining 4 games.

Since Monmouth hasn't played yet do what you will with them. But as we all agreed, the last 7-8 slots could easily be just a roll of the dice or a flip of the coin decision. I assume they are getting some traction because for some reason they were selected the Big South #1 preseason over Kennesaw.

Chalupa Batman
March 15th, 2021, 05:32 PM
Albany out

Monmouth?


Albany deserves one more week and a shot at reaching 2-1 before being dumped from the Top 25. Ask any CAA coach how tough it is to play back to back games away at New Hampshire and Maine, they won one and lost the second going down to the last play of the game in both. Drop UNH before Albany, it really makes no difference anyway. If we pull an upset vs your Hens this week we are a solid ranked team, if we lose we will, and should, be off the Top 25 radar for the season unless we manage to win our remaining 4 games.

Since Monmouth hasn't played yet do what you will with them. But as we all agreed, the last 7-8 slots could easily be just a roll of the dice or a flip of the coin decision. I assume they are getting some traction because for some reason they were selected the Big South #1 preseason over Kennesaw.

Monmouth is out of my poll, and I agree with keeping Albany in one more week.

I do see the URI-Villanova game is on YouTube so I’m going to check that out before submitting my poll.


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Professor Chaos
March 15th, 2021, 05:43 PM
Put-em both in. It's not like there is any clear justification for the last 7-8 teams in any one of the polls so far this year.. If they lose this upcoming weekend, take-em out.
Well, Richmond won't lose this weekend since their game with JMU just got postponed.

caribbeanhen
March 15th, 2021, 07:20 PM
Monmouth is out of my poll, and I agree with keeping Albany in one more week.

I do see the URI-Villanova game is on YouTube so I’m going to check that out before submitting my poll.


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# 5 RB for Rhode is load and not slow either

dewey
March 15th, 2021, 08:16 PM
Here is HERO's Sam Herder's STATS top 25.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-top-25-sam-herder-5-bzbz/

Here is Craig Haley's top 25.

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-spring-rankings-top-25-power-poll-following-week-5-2021

Why in both polls is SHSU below SDSU?

No posted top 25 for Emory Hunt.

No poll posted for CAA representative Greg Madia. Normally he looks like he posts his top 25.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Madia_DNRSports


Dewey

gokat89
March 15th, 2021, 09:04 PM
Here is HERO's Sam Herder's STATS top 25.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-top-25-sam-herder-5-bzbz/

Here is Craig Haley's top 25.

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-spring-rankings-top-25-power-poll-following-week-5-2021

Why in both polls is SHSU below SDSU?

No posted top 25 for Emory Hunt.

No poll posted for CAA representative Greg Madia. Normally he looks like he posts his top 25.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Madia_DNRSports


Dewey

There will be plenty of changes after this weekend with the current schedule to be played on Saturday... Kats take care of business then they will move into Top 5

Schism55
March 15th, 2021, 09:18 PM
Here is HERO's Sam Herder's STATS top 25.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-top-25-sam-herder-5-bzbz/

Here is Craig Haley's top 25.

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-spring-rankings-top-25-power-poll-following-week-5-2021

Why in both polls is SHSU below SDSU?

No posted top 25 for Emory Hunt.

No poll posted for CAA representative Greg Madia. Normally he looks like he posts his top 25.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Madia_DNRSports


Dewey

Well that's one good thing at least xsmiley_wix

Chalupa Batman
March 15th, 2021, 09:19 PM
# 5 RB for Rhode is load and not slow either

He looks good. Reminds me a lot of Abdullah from JMU a few years ago.

CenMEBlackBearFan
March 15th, 2021, 09:35 PM
Albany deserves one more week and a shot at reaching 2-1 before being dumped from the Top 25. Ask any CAA coach how tough it is to play back to back games away at New Hampshire and Maine, they won one and lost the second going down to the last play of the game in both. Drop UNH before Albany, it really makes no difference anyway. If we pull an upset vs your Hens this week we are a solid ranked team, if we lose we will, and should, be off the Top 25 radar for the season unless we manage to win our remaining 4 games.

Since Monmouth hasn't played yet do what you will with them. But as we all agreed, the last 7-8 slots could easily be just a roll of the dice or a flip of the coin decision. I assume they are getting some traction because for some reason they were selected the Big South #1 preseason over Kennesaw.

KPSUL, I don't want to sound like I'm splitting hairs but we had the ball and ran the clock out on Albany, did not come down to the last play like it did with you guys. I thought we might have gotten a vote or two but do not think we are top 20, but think Albany and you guys should have dropped a little. I know very early, but a third thru the season

KPSUL
March 15th, 2021, 10:20 PM
KPSUL, I don't want to sound like I'm splitting hairs but we had the ball and ran the clock out on Albany, did not come down to the last play like it did with you guys. I thought we might have gotten a vote or two but do not think we are top 20, but think Albany and you guys should have dropped a little. I know very early, but a third thru the season
No problem correcting my post, although I don't think it changes the main point i made about keeping Albany ranked. The good news for you guys is that Maine made the plays you needed to win when it counted, UNH didn't.
Maine's turn around was so huge week one to week two that it made it difficult to know exactly what to make of the Black Bears. it If makes any difference I had Maine in my Top 25 preseason. Right now the only team in the CAA North that has really distinguished itself from the crowd is Delaware. I do believe other teams will end up good enough to be playoff contenders; however, exactly witch teams remains to be determined. We are a couple of conference games behind several other FCS conferences where the conference standings are more sorted out and it is a little easier to rank the teams.

KPSUL
March 15th, 2021, 10:36 PM
Well, Richmond won't lose this weekend since their game with JMU just got postponed.

Very unfortunate news, thanks for the heads up Professor!

This is all that is up on the JMU website: James Madison has paused all football activities. A decision on rescheduling postponed games against William & Mary and Richmond will be made at a later date.

mainejeff
March 16th, 2021, 05:59 AM
Albany and UNH are severely overrated.

caribbeanhen
March 16th, 2021, 08:47 AM
He looks good. Reminds me a lot of Abdullah from JMU a few years ago.

He’s good but he’s not that good

mainejeff
March 16th, 2021, 09:18 AM
No problem correcting my post, although I don't think it changes the main point i made about keeping Albany ranked. The good news for you guys is that Maine made the plays you needed to win when it counted, UNH didn't.
Maine's turn around was so huge week one to week two that it made it difficult to know exactly what to make of the Black Bears. it If makes any difference I had Maine in my Top 25 preseason. Right now the only team in the CAA North that has really distinguished itself from the crowd is Delaware. I do believe other teams will end up good enough to be playoff contenders; however, exactly witch teams remains to be determined. We are a couple of conference games behind several other FCS conferences where the conference standings are more sorted out and it is a little easier to rank the teams.

Regarding the CAA North....

Delaware is a Top 10 team plain and simple.

UNH should remain in the Top 25 and move up if they beat Delaware. It would be a HUGE win.

Albany vs. URI......If Albany loses this one at home......they are toast. URI should move into the Top 25 if they beat Albany on the road.

Maine vs. Stony Brook.....This is a survival game for Stony Brook. For Maine....they can really advance their cause with a road win here. A Maine loss would relegate them to a spoiler vs. the rest of their schedule.

Villanova.....thye have a bye week to stew over the their "shocking" loss to URI. I'm not sold on them but they still deserve to be ranked.....especially if URI pulls off another win this week.

My current order of CAA North is:

1. Delaware
2. URI
3. Villanova
4. Maine
5. Albany
6. UNH
7. Stony Brook

KPSUL
March 16th, 2021, 01:49 PM
Regarding the CAA North....

Delaware is a Top 10 team plain and simple.

UNH should remain in the Top 25 and move up if they beat Delaware. It would be a HUGE win.

Albany vs. URI......If Albany loses this one at home......they are toast. URI should move into the Top 25 if they beat Albany on the road.

Maine vs. Stony Brook.....This is a survival game for Stony Brook. For Maine....they can really advance their cause with a road win here. A Maine loss would relegate them to a spoiler vs. the rest of their schedule.

Villanova.....thye have a bye week to stew over the their "shocking" loss to URI. I'm not sold on them but they still deserve to be ranked.....especially if URI pulls off another win this week.

My current order of CAA North is:

1. Delaware
2. URI
3. Villanova
4. Maine
5. Albany
6. UNH
7. Stony Brook

Good analysis.

My CAA order:

1. Delaware
T2. Albany
T2. Maine
T2. New Hampshire
T2. Rhode Island
T2. Villanova
7. Stony Brook

Things will get substantially clearer each successive week.

ncspiderfan
March 16th, 2021, 04:54 PM
Very unfortunate news, thanks for the heads up Professor!

This is all that is up on the JMU website: James Madison has paused all football activities. A decision on rescheduling postponed games against William & Mary and Richmond will be made at a later date.
They announced this today.

On Tuesday, JMU athletic director Jeff Bourne said there are 28 members of the team who are currently quarantined. Twelve have tested positive for COVID-19 and the other 16 are under protocol due to contact tracing. Here is article it came from.

Virus Outbreak Forced Dukes' Pause | Coronavirus | dnronline.com (https://www.dnronline.com/coronavirus/virus-outbreak-forced-dukes-pause/article_e3ab3524-5c18-5aa8-8aa1-8d23d360cf44.html)