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Go Green
June 29th, 2020, 05:48 AM
https://www.si.com/college/tmg/mark-blaudschun/ivy-league-football


Personally, I'm grateful that the Ivy is still talking about football and hasn't pulled the plug entirely on the season yet.
bonarae
June 29th, 2020, 08:28 AM
NESCAC-style schedule? I'm not a fan of it. Most of the Ivy fans are old anyway. xpeacex xsmhx

But the spring-type schedule option a la the XFL and Arena? Looks interesting.
Sader87
June 29th, 2020, 12:43 PM
Williams College just announced no Fall sports.....2 NESCACs down....
Go Green
June 29th, 2020, 02:26 PM
Dartmouth (!!) just announced that only half the student body will be allowed on campus for the 2020-21 school terms.

Priority to be given to class. No mention of athletes.

https://news.dartmouth.edu/news/2020/06/dartmouth-announces-plans-coming-academic-year
dgtw
June 29th, 2020, 02:49 PM
The Ivy will cancel all games except for Harvard-Yale.


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DFW HOYA
June 29th, 2020, 03:58 PM
The Ivy will cancel all games except for Harvard-Yale.


It's all about priorities, after all...



Williams College just announced no Fall sports.....2 NESCACs down....

If the NESCAC closed down altogether, would anyone notice?
bulldog10jw
June 29th, 2020, 05:38 PM
The Ivy will cancel all games except for Harvard-Yale.


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You know, as crazy as that sounds, something similar has been discussed before.

Back in the 1930's there was a contingent at Yale that thought Yale should drop most sports and only play Harvard and Princeton in a club sports type of setting. The people who supported that way of thinking were big financial contributors. In a lot of ways, those ideas led to the formation of the Ivy League in 1954.
Sader87
June 29th, 2020, 06:15 PM
It's all about priorities, after all...




If the NESCAC closed down altogether, would anyone notice?

Some of the NESCACs draw fairly decent sized-crowds....I'd bet the Williams-Amherst game outdraws a lot of FCS games most years.

It gets about as much media coverage as any non-FBS school in New England.

By the way, Holy Cross could not have been in the NESCAC....we were basically told to go pound sand when Fr Brooks approached the subject in the 1990s.
Pinnum
June 29th, 2020, 07:09 PM
Some of the NESCACs draw fairly decent sized-crowds....I'd bet the Williams-Amherst game outdraws a lot of FCS games most years.

It gets about as much media coverage as any non-FBS school in New England.

By the way, Holy Cross could not have been in the NESCAC....we were basically told to go pound sand when Fr Brooks approached the subject in the 1990s.

When I lived in New York, I watched a Colby game on Television--basic cable. There are many FCS teams that would have killed for that exposure.
Go Green
June 30th, 2020, 05:56 AM
Back in the 1930's there was a contingent at Yale that thought Yale should drop most sports and only play Harvard and Princeton in a club sports type of setting. The people who supported that way of thinking were big financial contributors. In a lot of ways, those ideas led to the formation of the Ivy League in 1954.

My understanding is that Harvard and Princeton weren't even speaking to each other in those days.
Ivytalk
June 30th, 2020, 06:53 AM
I think even option 2 is optimistic at this point. It’s more likely that the Ivies and others will just skip the 2020 season entirely, given the devilish persistence of the Rona.
bulldog10jw
June 30th, 2020, 12:56 PM
My understanding is that Harvard and Princeton weren't even speaking to each other in those days.

Yale also experimented in the 30's with alternating the season ending football game between Harvard and Princeton. I guess for a while we couldn't decide who was the bigger rival. That lasted 4 or 5 years before going back to Harvard permanently
Ivytalk
June 30th, 2020, 07:10 PM
Yale also experimented in the 30's with alternating the season ending football game between Harvard and Princeton. I guess for a while we couldn't decide who was the bigger rival. That lasted 4 or 5 years before going back to Harvard permanently
So you slept around with the orange and black playa for a few years, and then came home...xcoolx
bulldog10jw
June 30th, 2020, 07:39 PM
So you slept around with the orange and black playa for a few years, and then came home...xcoolx

Must have still been some hard feelings when you cheated on us by going to that 1920 Rose Bowl game.😉
Son of Eli
July 2nd, 2020, 05:25 AM
Ivy League has petitioned the NCAA to move football to the spring for a 7 game conference only schedule.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/01/ivy-league-eyes-seven-game-spring-football-season/
Go Green
July 2nd, 2020, 05:55 AM
Back in April on the Ivy Board, I actually suggested Spring Football.

I was laughed at. "Will never happen" they said.
Son of Eli
July 2nd, 2020, 06:01 AM
Back in April on the Ivy Board, I actually suggested Spring Football.

I was laughed at. "Will never happen" they said.


Congratulations on being right, but I imagine you’re in no mood to celebrate. I’m not.
bonarae
July 2nd, 2020, 06:06 AM
An announcement will be made for the Ivy's fall sports next Wednesday, July 8.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/07/01/ivy-league-will-announce-its-fall-sports-decision-next-wednesday/

But the spring football schedule is not ruled for next Wednesday, yet. xprayx
Ivytalk
July 2nd, 2020, 07:14 AM
Back in April on the Ivy Board, I actually suggested Spring Football.

I was laughed at. "Will never happen" they said.
Even a blind squirrel...xsalutex
Go Green
July 2nd, 2020, 07:26 AM
Congratulations on being right, but I imagine you’re in no mood to celebrate. I’m not.

To be honest, I view this announcement as "half-full." I had accepted that there would be no Fall football for the Ivy. And I also feared that they'd junk the season entirely.

At least Spring Football is some football (for the time being anyway)....
cx500d
July 2nd, 2020, 08:02 AM
I didn't know the Ivies played anything more than club intramural football; I never see them in the playoffs
DFW HOYA
July 2nd, 2020, 08:03 AM
If the Ivy leaves its non-conference opponents high and dry, is this the precursor to a NESCAC-like seven game schedule in future years?
SUPharmacist
July 2nd, 2020, 08:56 AM
If the Ivy leaves its non-conference opponents high and dry, is this the precursor to a NESCAC-like seven game schedule in future years?

I wouldn't think what they do this year could be considered predictive of anything. Too strange of a scenario for all involved.
bulldog10jw
July 2nd, 2020, 11:20 AM
If the Ivy leaves its non-conference opponents high and dry, is this the precursor to a NESCAC-like seven game schedule in future years?

Are you assuming that every other league is going to play this fall?
Go Green
July 2nd, 2020, 11:32 AM
If the Ivy leaves its non-conference opponents high and dry, is this the precursor to a NESCAC-like seven game schedule in future years?

Until COVID-19 appeared, nobody seriously suggested an NESCAC schedule for the Ivy.

Those types of measures were usually brought up by chicken little old-timers who can't get over the fact that the Ivy crowds aren't what they used to be. "If we don't turn things around, we're dropping football/going Division III/going to an NESCAC schedule!"

I've been hearing such doomsday predictions for as long as message boards existed...
bonarae
July 2nd, 2020, 05:06 PM
Until COVID-19 appeared, nobody seriously suggested an NESCAC schedule for the Ivy.

Those types of measures were usually brought up by chicken little old-timers who can't get over the fact that the Ivy crowds aren't what they used to be. "If we don't turn things around, we're dropping football/going Division III/going to an NESCAC schedule!"

I've been hearing such doomsday predictions for as long as message boards existed...

Also, is this the beginning of the end for Ivy football too? xdontknowx
Son of Eli
July 2nd, 2020, 05:31 PM
If the Ivy leaves its non-conference opponents high and dry, is this the precursor to a NESCAC-like seven game schedule in future years?

That thought has crossed my mind. There is some constituency for this idea but I think they are a small minority of alumni and even less amongst administrators
Redbird 4th & short
July 3rd, 2020, 08:12 AM
I didn't know the Ivies played anything more than club intramural football; I never see them in the playoffs

well played sir !
Lion1983
July 3rd, 2020, 08:57 AM
Seriously...
I know the presidents of the schools in the Ivy League says no to the playoffs, but how do the majority of the fans feel about not going? Would Ivy fans and Alumni rather see them in the playoffs?
bonarae
July 3rd, 2020, 10:03 AM
Seriously...
I know the presidents of the schools in the Ivy League says no to the playoffs, but how do the majority of the fans feel about not going? Would Ivy fans and Alumni rather see them in the playoffs?

Depending on the age bracket and familiarity with the programs. Younger fans say yes, but most of the older fans and alumni say otherwise. xchinscratchx
cx500d
July 3rd, 2020, 01:05 PM
Depending on the age bracket and familiarity with the programs. Younger fans say yes, but most of the older fans and alumni say otherwise. xchinscratchx

Why?

A. Because they don’t like to Watch more football?
B. Because they are afraid the football players are the only athletes in the schools that would flunk classes if they went to a playoff?
C. Because they are afraid it will expose how bad ivy football is, playing against schools outside the nec or pioneer?
D. Because they don’t believe in championships, everybody gets a trophy?
citdog
July 3rd, 2020, 01:37 PM
If the Ivy doesn’t play people will still vote them into the Top 25.
citdog
July 3rd, 2020, 02:02 PM
Because beating le high is a VERY impressive out of conference victory.
bulldog10jw
July 3rd, 2020, 02:28 PM
Depending on the age bracket and familiarity with the programs. Younger fans say yes, but most of the older fans and alumni say otherwise. xchinscratchx

First, there aren't many younger fans. An Ivy League crowd looks like the lunch crowd at Cracker Barrel.

Second, most of the older fans and alums I know would love to participate in playoffs, although an 11th game is preferred.

It's the Presidents and members of the faculty who are against those things and really only against them in football. It's a stupid and hypocritical point of view that seems to be part of the job description for Ivy League administrators.
Ivytalk
July 3rd, 2020, 06:35 PM
Why?

A. Because they don’t like to Watch more football?
B. Because they are afraid the football players are the only athletes in the schools that would flunk classes if they went to a playoff?
C. Because they are afraid it will expose how bad ivy football is, playing against schools outside the nec or pioneer?
D. Because they don’t believe in championships, everybody gets a trophy?
Why aren’t we surprised that cx500d is trolling this thread?
A. Because he has nothing better to do, and the bars are closed for the weekend.
B. Because it’s Bison mating season, and the ungulates need Viagra big time.
C. Because ND has no highways or scenery to justify skilled motorcycle traffic.
D. Because social distancing in ND doesn’t extend to first cousins.