Rough news out of Cheney

[Schism55]

https://twitter.com/SR_Collingwood/status/1276392540149657600

[FormerPokeCenter]

So, basically, they're "In the Red"?

[WileECoyote06]

These types of cuts are going to be across the board, especially at public schools.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

These types of cuts are going to be across the board, especially at public schools.

I think this is the case as well. EWU just might have been a bit closer to the edge than some schools but it is gonna hit most schools except for maybe the Ivies.

[Milktruck74]

Everyone in my company took a 10% salary reduction to try and keep everyone working. IT sucked, but it has worked so far. If private industry is doing this, the public sector needs to consider it too.

[favorite football fan]

I think this is the case as well. EWU just might have been a bit closer to the edge than some schools but it is gonna hit most schools except for maybe the Ivies.

One must remember that the Ivy's, with the multi-million/billion dollar endowments, are still the business of preserving themselves. An endowment is not a piggy bank as much of this money is in assets and restricted to certain things.

Let's look at Brown. As of 2019, it had an endowment of $4.2 billion. However, they cut athletic programs. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/06/01/brown-university-cuts-11-varsity-sports

THEN they https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/us/brown-university-reinstates-athletic-programs-trnd/index.html

YET https://www.si.com/college/2020/06/22/brown-university-athletes-legal-action-cut-teams

[Anthony215]

Might be time for EWU to seriously contemplate dropping down to D2 where they can form a rivalry again with CWU while also giving the conference a 5th team for football. They drop their scholarship requirements from 63 almost in half to 36.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

One must remember that the Ivy's, with the multi-million/billion dollar endowments, are still the business of preserving themselves. An endowment is not a piggy bank as much of this money is in assets and restricted to certain things.

Let's look at Brown. As of 2019, it had an endowment of $4.2 billion. However, they cut athletic programs. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/06/01/brown-university-cuts-11-varsity-sports

THEN they https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/us/brown-university-reinstates-athletic-programs-trnd/index.html

YET https://www.si.com/college/2020/06/22/brown-university-athletes-legal-action-cut-teams

Great. They could fund it with the interest if they wanted to. The point was not that they would since I said "except for maybe the Ivies" so sure they may still cut back. They sure don't have to, doesn't mean they won't.

[Go Green]

Might be time for EWU to seriously contemplate dropping down to D2 where they can form a rivalry again with CWU while also giving the conference a 5th team for football. They drop their scholarship requirements from 63 almost in half to 36.

If so, it would be a shame. Always fun for the FCS community to see stuff like this:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1757404-eastern-washington-beats-no-25-oregon-state-49-46-in-shocking-upset

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/03/halftime-washington-state-leads-eastern-washington/

[Anthony215]

If so, it would be a shame. Always fun for the FCS community to see stuff like this:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1757404-eastern-washington-beats-no-25-oregon-state-49-46-in-shocking-upset

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/03/halftime-washington-state-leads-eastern-washington/

To me the FCS upset of FBS teams in August/September are the best stories of college football. If they did drop down to D2 maybe after 3-5 years of being able to recoup lost money and gain additional donors they'll be able to make the jump back up to D1. I rather them drop down to D2 rather than have to cut all their athletic programs.

[dgtw]

What are the 12 athletic department jobs? Coaches? Office staff? Janitors?


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[favorite football fan]

To me the FCS upset of FBS teams in August/September are the best stories of college football. If they did drop down to D2 maybe after 3-5 years of being able to recoup lost money and gain additional donors they'll be able to make the jump back up to D1. I rather them drop down to D2 rather than have to cut all their athletic programs.

1. you are correct that the "any given day" is exciting;
2. however, do you stay FCS just to hopefully enjoy such a fleeting moment? that's like going to an autopsy in the hopes that the person is somehow, miraculously, still alive; shocking, yes; exciting, no doubt; unexpected, absolutely; common place, no.
3. what would it cost for the school to drop to D2 with the exit fee?
4. how long would it take to move to D2? A year? it's not like you can "just drop down" and the next day, you move from 63 to 36 scholarships; and you have to revamp the entire schedule for all sports and make that transition and that will take time and there will be a cost initially not a savings as the savings would be seen long term.
5. and once they are D2, and if the enrollment issues have not been corrected, there would be sense in moving to D1 that would incur more costs;
6. CWU? as a rival? sure, from a purely athletic standpoint, makes sense; BUT CWU declared financial exigency so who knows what their future is; they could go NAIA or D3 or drop football all together.

[cx500d]

1. you are correct that the "any given day" is exciting;
2. however, do you stay FCS just to hopefully enjoy such a fleeting moment? that's like going to an autopsy in the hopes that the person is somehow, miraculously, still alive; shocking, yes; exciting, no doubt; unexpected, absolutely; common place, no.
3. what would it cost for the school to drop to D2 with the exit fee?
4. how long would it take to move to D2? A year? it's not like you can "just drop down" and the next day, you move from 63 to 36 scholarships; and you have to revamp the entire schedule for all sports and make that transition and that will take time and there will be a cost initially not a savings as the savings would be seen long term.
5. and once they are D2, and if the enrollment issues have not been corrected, there would be sense in moving to D1 that would incur more costs;
6. CWU? as a rival? sure, from a purely athletic standpoint, makes sense; BUT CWU declared financial exigency so who knows what their future is; they could go NAIA or D3 or drop football all together.

Western Washington dropped football in 2009 after being somewhat successful in the 90's, so wouldn't doubt if CWU or EWU do as well.