The Most Painful Losses In Your School's History

[Go Green]

The Princeton Football Blog complied an interesting list of heartbreakers. I had totally forgotten about the 1988 Holy Cross finish.

http://www.princetontigersfootball.com/2020/06/the-most-painful-losses-in-princetons-ivy-era-history/

Not a bad way at all to pass the time with little football news. Anyone want to take a stab at your own school's list?

[cx500d]

The Princeton Football Blog complied an interesting list of heartbreakers. I had totally forgotten about the 1988 Holy Cross finish.

http://www.princetontigersfootball.com/2020/06/the-most-painful-losses-in-princetons-ivy-era-history/

Not a bad way at all to pass the time with little football news. Anyone want to take a stab at your own school's list?


any loss to und...they all hurt

[cx500d]

The Princeton Football Blog complied an interesting list of heartbreakers. I had totally forgotten about the 1988 Holy Cross finish.

http://www.princetontigersfootball.com/2020/06/the-most-painful-losses-in-princetons-ivy-era-history/

Not a bad way at all to pass the time with little football news. Anyone want to take a stab at your own school's list?

I don’t get this. I don’t see holy cross Mentioned anywhere in the Div1-aa championship record books. Must be present to win.

3) Holy Cross 30, Princeton 26, September 24, 1988 at Palmer Stadium–
The Tigers, a 10-point underdog to the defending 1-AA champion Crusaders...

[Son of Eli]

Here is my Top 5 Painful Losses list for Yale:

1) Harvard 2007- Yale came in 9-0. Harvard was 7-2 but 6-0 in league play. Harvard demolished Yale 37-6 before 57,248, the biggest Yale Bowl crowd in 18 years. Yale ended up with no undefeated season and no championship.

2) Princeton 1981- similar theme. Yale was 8-0 going into the game but lost 35-31. Yale had a 21 point lead at one point. Yale ended up 9-1 and co-champions with Dartmouth.

3) Harvard 1979- again an undefeated season spoiled as a 2-6 Harvard team upset an 8-0 Yale team 22-7 before a crowed of 72,000, the largest Yale Bowl crowd in 25 years.

4) Dartmouth 2017- A 3-0 Yale team was up 21-0 in the 2nd Quarter but Dartmouth came back with a winning TD with 35 seconds left to win 28-27. Yale had a 2nd half TD called back when the referee incorrectly ruled the Yale receiver was out of bounds. Yale ended up 9-1. The next season the Ivy League initiated instant replay reviews.

5) Princeton 2006 - Princeton was down by 14 points three different times in the game but prevailed to win 34-31 to cost Yale an unshared Ivy Title. They ended up sharing the title with Princeton with a 6-1 league record.

[citdog]

Gettysburg

[DFW HOYA]

The Princeton Football Blog complied an interesting list of heartbreakers. I had totally forgotten about the 1988 Holy Cross finish.


I see Princeton's epic loss to Georgetown on ESPNU didn't make the list--but to be fair, they quickly forgot it. That was the low point of the Bob Surace era--at that point, he was 2-20 in his third year. From that game, the Tigers won 13 of its next 18.

The same cannot be said for Kevin Kelly. Following the game, he stood at 3-1 on the season and the Hoyas proceeded to lose 10 of its next 14.

[Schism55]

Gettysburg
Lol, well played sir xthumbsupx

[ElCid]

It's always debatable between fans, but mine was 17 Oct 1992. Our only regular season loss that year. Lost to Marshall 13-34. Happened to be our stadium attendance record as well with over 23K. Still finished the regular season as #1 in FCS. That's the season we also beat Arkansas and Army. Lost to YSU in playoffs. So our only losses that year were to the two finalists, YSU and Marshall. Marshall won the championship.

[Son of Eli]

It feels like this thread is therapy. Go on. Let it all out! Have a good cry! xbawlingx

[Laker]

It feels like this thread is therapy. Go on. Let it all out! Have a good cry! xbawlingx

Well, as long as you are being masochistic- the 1968 29-29 tie with Harvard had to be devastating after having a 16 point lead so late in the game.

[POD Knows]

10-9 loss to the freaking Gophers in 2006, a game that NDSU totally dominated and should have won, that team would have also been undefeated that year. Toughest FCS loss in the D1 era is EWU, got freaking screwed but should have won the game anyway. 38-31 in OT 2010, playoff game.

[Sir William]

1985 Natl Champ game. To Ga Southern, 44-42. Still stings.

[JacksFan40]

NDSU in 2012 playoffs
NDSU in 2014 playoffs
NDSU in 2016 playoffs
NDSU in 2018 playoffs
Mostly the 2014 one, we had that game won.

Oh also Montana in 2009 and JMU in 2017 both for obvious reasons.

[FUBeAR]

https://mercerbears.com/news/2015/10/3/10_3_2015_957.aspx

FOOTBALL DROPS OVERTIME HEARTBREAKER TO WOFFORD, 34-33

MACON, Ga. – The Mercer University football team rallied from a 10-point deficit in the fourth quarter, but dropped a heartbreaker to Wofford in overtime, 34-33, on Saturday night at Five Star Stadium.

TURNING POINT
After coming back from 10 points down in the fourth quarter, Mercer wasted no time finding the end zone in overtime, as John Russ (https://mercerbears.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=676) hit Avery Ward (https://mercerbears.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=689) for a 25-yard score on the first play of the period. However, the Bears would miss the extra point, allowing Wofford to escape with the win following a 14-yard scamper by Evan Jacks and the ensuing extra point by David Marvin.

[JayJ79]

UNI at Iowa, 2009.
Iowa is up 17-16. UNI drives into Iowa territory late in the 4th quarter.
Attempts a go-ahead 40-yard FG on 3rd down with 7 seconds remaining in the game.
FG attempt is blocked, but UNI recovers it behind the line-of-scrimmage. Since they were kicking on 3rd down, that meant they retained possession, and could attempt another FG (something like a 41 or 42 yarder).
Blocked again. Game over.

Iowa was ranked #21 or something like that in the polls, so it wouldn't have been as big of a national upset story as Appy State knocking off Michigan in 2007, but damn it would have felt good. (Iowa fans are smug SoB's). And to come so close and yet have it end in such a weird fashion. How often do you see FG attempts on back to back plays, and having both of them blocked. Craziness.

Some of the playoff losses stung too, but frankly I've gotten used to those.

[Bisonoline]

UNI at Iowa, 2009.
Iowa is up 17-16. UNI drives into Iowa territory late in the 4th quarter.
Attempts a go-ahead 40-yard FG on 3rd down with 7 seconds remaining in the game.
FG attempt is blocked, but UNI recovers it behind the line-of-scrimmage. Since they were kicking on 3rd down, that meant they retained possession, and could attempt another FG (something like a 41 or 42 yarder).
Blocked again. Game over.

Iowa was ranked #21 or something like that in the polls, so it wouldn't have been as big of a national upset story as Appy State knocking off Michigan in 2007, but damn it would have felt good. (Iowa fans are smug SoB's). And to come so close and yet have it end in such a weird fashion. How often do you see FG attempts on back to back plays, and having both of them blocked. Craziness.

Some of the playoff losses stung too, but frankly I've gotten used to those.

I was at that game.

[Sader87]

Holy Cross lost the 1946 Orange Bowl on a last play "pick 6"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcOCyB9T50w

[Bisonoline]

1973 we are playing Univ of South Dakota. They actually had a good team that year. They throw up a hail mary at the end. Or DB Greg Benson does exactly
what hes supposed to do. He knocks it right to the ground. Unfortunately a USD player is laying on his back right under him and catches it. They end up going to the playoffs because they wouldnt let 2 teams from the same conference in.

[bonarae]

Harvard (I'll divide this into three: pre-Ivy League, Ivy League [non-The Game] and Harvard-Yale games):

Pre-1954
1921 - Centre College (currently D-III) 6-0 (was it an upset or not, in their day?)

Ivy League era
1966 - Princeton - 18-14
1974 - Rutgers - 24-21 (our very last football game with them; they have moved on akin to UMass)
1974 - Brown - 10-7
1988 - UMass - 45-28 (I've heard from UMass fans here years before that off-campus violence ended this series' potential too soon; Ivytalk disagrees with them; this was also the start of a 5-game losing streak in that season.)
1988 - Boston U - 24-23 (hmm, were the Terriers at their peak at this time? BTW, this was our very last football game with them. Pacific-style indifference to football led by John Silber carried on to its disbandment after 1997.)
1993 - William and Mary - 45-17 (why did Murphy and/or Harvard's AD killed off the series and its potential? xchinscratchx)
1997 - Bucknell - 24-20
2003 - Dartmouth - 30-16 (Championship guardrails for that season were loosensed with this loss)
2008 - Brown - 24-22 (oops moment)
2009 - Quackers - 17-7
2013 - Princeton - 51-48 (triple OT)
2015 - Quackers - 35-25

The Game
1952 - "ultimate insult" game - 41-14
1968 - 29-29 (Harvard won, but there is a catch, depending on whom you source your information...)
1998 - 9-7
1999 - 24-21
2000 - 34-24

[Redbird 4th & short]

NDSU in 2012 playoffs
NDSU in 2014 playoffs
NDSU in 2016 playoffs
NDSU in 2018 playoffs
Mostly the 2014 one, we had that game won.

Oh also Montana in 2009 and JMU in 2017 both for obvious reasons.
worst part about that, if you follow the trend line ... and sorry to break the bad news to you in June like this, but you do realize it's 2020 ???

xnodx xdrunkyx

[FormerPokeCenter]

Losing to SE Louisiana 51-17 in 2004. 2004 may be been one of the worst McNeese teams ever, but - still - losing to a program in only it's 2nd year back playing football was HARD.

[ST_Lawson]

For me...WIU at Colgate, 2003 Quarterfinals, in the snow. The whole game is on youtube, but here's part 5 of 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU28kzh75xE
https://gocolgateraiders.com/news/2003/12/6/news_1974.aspx
(https://gocolgateraiders.com/news/2003/12/6/news_1974.aspx)
A close second, Illinois State beating us in 2014 by 3 points after being up 27-6 late in the 3rd quarter: https://goleathernecks.com/news/2014/10/18/FB_1018145759.aspx

[McNeese75]

1997 Natty loss to YSU. Wide open TD pass was dropped in the first half that made the difference.

[cx500d]

For me...WIU at Colgate, 2003 Quarterfinals, in the snow. The whole game is on youtube, but here's part 5 of 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU28kzh75xE
https://gocolgateraiders.com/news/2003/12/6/news_1974.aspx
(https://gocolgateraiders.com/news/2003/12/6/news_1974.aspx)
A close second, Illinois State beating us in 2014 by 3 points after being up 27-6 late in the 3rd quarter: https://goleathernecks.com/news/2014/10/18/FB_1018145759.aspx


Good football weather for the Colgate game....

[JayJ79]

I was at that game.
As was I. I remember all the squawk fans before the game being all "we're totally going to destroy these cupcakes. the game will be over by halftime", then starting to have a meltdown when UNI hung in there all game. Then celebrating like crazy when they were able to squeak out a win.

[ysubigred]

1997 Natty loss to YSU. Wide open TD pass was dropped in the first half that made the difference.Haha the defense of both teams was amazing.https://media0.giphy.com/media/ybSRoU6nGp2hdE1uUp/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7bbbd16e1790f1af11f24fca390a9 6957baaecfec&rid=giphy.gif

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[Redbird 4th & short]

These are my most painful lossses since following ISUr since 2010.

- first one is easy, Natty loss to NDSU in 2014-15 .. great game, and we took lead for 1st time with 1:38 left in game, 26-22. Ensuing drive, they get to mid field, where we had them 3rd. Next play we get to Wentz just as he released deep throw, causing it to be underthrown. DB had WR covered but never saw the underthrow, so WR comes back and catches it around 5 yd line, they score next play to win by 2 after we block XP.

- second one is 2016-17, 1st round playoff at UCA .. we were 6-5 traveling to 9-2 UCA. We controlled the game for first 3 qtrs .. our defense dominated, our offense couldn't put them away, but we were up 10 gping into Q4. So we start Q4 with 2 special teams miscues, which gave them 10 points .. they blocked punt for TD and then after another UCA score, we get penalty, putting their kickoff on 50 yard line ... they execute great onside kick, our guy was there bu got blown off the ball on our 37. We stop them but they get FG. We lose game by 7.

p.s. we got a little revenge last year beating UCA as top 8 seed on their field, despite supposedly being last team in field.

[PaladinFan]

Gosh. So many to choose from. From just ones I personally attended:

2004 Furman v. James Madison (2nd Round of Playoffs). Furman had a 13-7 lead and fumbled on the +1 hardline - a score that probably would have cemented that game. Not only that, but Furman had two kicks blocked, missed an extra point, and lost in the closing seconds. JMU, of course, went on to win the national title. I to this day have no idea how Furman managed to lose that game.

2005 Furman at App State (semi finals). Cold day up on the mountain top. Back and forth affair against two bitter rivals. Ingle Martin slipping on the 5 yard line while running into the end zone for what likely would have been a game-sealing score lives in SoCon lore. App takes the ball and wins it. In my opinion, the two best teams in the country played that afternoon in Boone regardless of who showed up to lose to App in the national title game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fmiY0wAaOo

2002 Furman at App State (the "Miracle on the Mountain"). Perhaps one of the most well known games in FCS/IAA history. Furman takes the lead with seconds left, goes for two, App picks off the ball in the end zone, returns it for a 2 point conversion and wins by 1. Absolute gut punch of a game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAycXbA2ZhE

There are a lot of really good candidates. Furman has had a penchant for finding the most excruciating ways to lose football games over the years.

[citdog]

Gosh. So many to choose from. From just ones I personally attended:

2004 Furman v. James Madison (2nd Round of Playoffs). Furman had a 13-7 lead and fumbled on the +1 hardline - a score that probably would have cemented that game. Not only that, but Furman had two kicks blocked, missed an extra point, and lost in the closing seconds. JMU, of course, went on to win the national title. I to this day have no idea how Furman managed to lose that game.

2005 Furman at App State (semi finals). Cold day up on the mountain top. Back and forth affair against two bitter rivals. Ingle Martin slipping on the 5 yard line while running into the end zone for what likely would have been a game-sealing score lives in SoCon lore. App takes the ball and wins it. In my opinion, the two best teams in the country played that afternoon in Boone regardless of who showed up to lose to App in the national title game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fmiY0wAaOo

2002 Furman at App State (the "Miracle on the Mountain"). Perhaps one of the most well known games in FCS/IAA history. Furman takes the lead with seconds left, goes for two, App picks off the ball in the end zone, returns it for a 2 point conversion and wins by 1. Absolute gut punch of a game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAycXbA2ZhE

There are a lot of really good candidates. Furman has had a penchant for finding the most excruciating ways to lose football games over the years.

furman sucks

[favorite football fan]

The fall 2020 season

[bulldog10jw]

Here is my Top 5 Painful Losses list for Yale:

1) Harvard 2007- Yale came in 9-0. Harvard was 7-2 but 6-0 in league play. Harvard demolished Yale 37-6 before 57,248, the biggest Yale Bowl crowd in 18 years. Yale ended up with no undefeated season and no championship.

2) Princeton 1981- similar theme. Yale was 8-0 going into the game but lost 35-31. Yale had a 21 point lead at one point. Yale ended up 9-1 and co-champions with Dartmouth.

3) Harvard 1979- again an undefeated season spoiled as a 2-6 Harvard team upset an 8-0 Yale team 22-7 before a crowed of 72,000, the largest Yale Bowl crowd in 25 years.

4) Dartmouth 2017- A 3-0 Yale team was up 21-0 in the 2nd Quarter but Dartmouth came back with a winning TD with 35 seconds left to win 28-27. Yale had a 2nd half TD called back when the referee incorrectly ruled the Yale receiver was out of bounds. Yale ended up 9-1. The next season the Ivy League initiated instant replay reviews.

5) Princeton 2006 - Princeton was down by 14 points three different times in the game but prevailed to win 34-31 to cost Yale an unshared Ivy Title. They ended up sharing the title with Princeton with a 6-1 league record.

All those were terrible, but 29-29 was the worst "loss" followed closely by the 21-16 loss to Harvard in 1974 that ruined another possible perfect season.

Another horrible loss was the 1975 Harvard game. The score was 7-7 and Harvard lined up for a FG in the last few seconds. It was from only 26 yards, I believe, a chip shot. The kicker shanked the kick and the ball seemed to go straight up in the air. I remember thinking that he missed it, but the ball came down a couple of yards behind the crossbar and Yale lost the game and the Ivy title.

[Go Green]

Harvard

Ivy League era
1966 - Princeton - 18-14
1974 - Rutgers - 24-21 (our very last football game with them; they have moved on akin to UMass)
1974 - Brown - 10-7
1988 - UMass - 45-28 (I've heard from UMass fans here years before that off-campus violence ended this series' potential too soon; Ivytalk disagrees with them; this was also the start of a 5-game losing streak in that season.)
1988 - Boston U - 24-23 (hmm, were the Terriers at their peak at this time? BTW, this was our very last football game with them. Pacific-style indifference to football led by John Silber carried on to its disbandment after 1997.)
1993 - William and Mary - 45-17 (why did Murphy and/or Harvard's AD killed off the series and its potential? xchinscratchx)
1997 - Bucknell - 24-20
2003 - Dartmouth - 30-16 (Championship guardrails for that season were loosensed with this loss)
2008 - Brown - 24-22 (oops moment)
2009 - Quackers - 17-7
2013 - Princeton - 51-48 (triple OT)
2015 - Quackers - 35-25




Would have thought that 2019 Dartmouth would bear a mention...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGBfoTrfPMU

[MR. CHICKEN]

1997 Natty loss to YSU. Wide open TD pass was dropped in the first half that made the difference.

.......YOUSE DESERVED IT.......BEAT HENS ON GAME WINNIN' FG..........TA GET DERE..........TKS FO' LOSIN'...........WAS OINTMENT TA DUH STING.........BAWK!

[McNeese75]

.......YOUSE DESERVED IT.......BEAT HENS ON GAME WINNIN' FG..........TA GET DERE..........TKS FO' LOSIN'...........WAS OINTMENT TA DUH STING.........BAWK!

xlolx Glad I am not the only sore loser that season. I must admit, your student body and certain fans in the stadium were not the most friendly I have run across. Actually they were pretty much assholes but a win is a win and it was worth the trip.

[McNeese75]

Haha the defense of both teams was amazing.https://media0.giphy.com/media/ybSRoU6nGp2hdE1uUp/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7bbbd16e1790f1af11f24fca390a9 6957baaecfec&rid=giphy.gif

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Yes they were xthumbsupx

[ysubigred]

.......YOUSE DESERVED IT.......BEAT HENS ON GAME WINNIN' FG..........TA GET DERE..........TKS FO' LOSIN'...........WAS OINTMENT TA DUH STING.........BAWK!Tressel magic! Sick of seeing funny colored chickens [emoji38]

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[MR. CHICKEN]

xlolx Glad I am not the only sore loser that season. I must admit, your student body and certain fans in the stadium were not the most friendly I have run across. Actually they were pretty much assholes but a win is a win and it was worth the trip.


......DUH 12TH MAN.....OURAH FANS....ARE ALL.............LINEBACKERS..........BRAWK!

[MR. CHICKEN]

Tressel magic! Sick of seeing funny colored chickens [emoji38]

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.....SHOOD SEND COW-LADS........UH BOUQUET........SAVED YER 'GUINS........UH SORE.......HEINIE................BRAWK!

[POD Knows]

......DUH 12TH MAN.....OURAH FANS....ARE ALL.............LINEBACKERS..........BRAWK!The guys in wheel chairs and walkers that were dropping F bombs on us innocent Bison fans xnodx after the game last year, they looked like their playing days were long over, leather helmet days. :D

[MR. CHICKEN]

The guys in wheel chairs and walkers that were dropping F bombs on us innocent Bison fans xnodx after the game last year, they looked like their playing days were long over, leather helmet days. :D



.........DEY ARE OURAH HERO'S....FROM 2003........SHOODN'T UH BROUGHT DAT....FAKE FG MESS.........INTA DUH TUB........BAWK!.......REALLY SHOODN'T UH DONE IT.......NOPE.....BIG NO-NO!

[POD Knows]

.........DEY ARE OURAH HERO'S....FROM 2003........SHOODN'T UH BROUGHT DAT....FAKE FG MESS.........INTA DUH TUB........BAWK!.......REALLY SHOODN'T UH DONE IT.......NOPE.....BIG NO-NO!It was a thing of beauty. We ran one in the Natty game as well. I was kind of hoping that we would do an onside kick after the TD at the end of the game in Newark. We never get to practice those, you never know when you might need to do one.

[Grizalltheway]

I don't even know where to start.

[bulldog10jw]

4) Dartmouth 2017- A 3-0 Yale team was up 21-0 in the 2nd Quarter but Dartmouth came back with a winning TD with 35 seconds left to win 28-27. Yale had a 2nd half TD called back when the referee incorrectly ruled the Yale receiver was out of bounds. Yale ended up 9-1. The next season the Ivy League initiated instant replay reviews.



Don't forget too, Yale had stopped Dartmouth on 4th down on that winning TD drive, but was hit with a roughing the passer call. Not saying it was a bad call, just that we hurt ourselves.

[clenz]

List too long to go into

[TheKingpin28]

I remember that 2010 game all to well. Easily, the most painful loss since I have been watching the Bison. That said, that 06 Minnesota game should have been a W for the Bison.

[MR. CHICKEN]

I don't even know where to start.

.....LITTLE NUDGE....MONTE....1993......49-48......HENS CAME INTA FROZEN...MISERYOULA........AN' WATCHED YER KICKER.....GO ALL VILLANOVA......ON DAT TYIN' PLACEMENT.......BRAWK!

[walliver]

November 16, 2002 A 23-21 loss to Furman. After beating GSU and ASU, both on the road, a win would have given us our first conference championship and playoff appearance. On a cold, rainy, very muddy day, the Pukes scored the winning touchdown with 29 seconds left (Bobby Lamb took a knee for the extra point to play it safe). Our offense was unstoppable in the 4th quarter but 29 seconds isn't long for what was then a true triple option offense. After that, despite a 9-3 record with wins over ASU and GSU, the committee felt we weren't good enough for the playoffs.

[McNeese72]

1997 Natty loss to YSU. Wide open TD pass was dropped in the first half that made the difference.

Dropped pass hurt. But another play that did it in my opinion was later in the 4th quarter. We had moved the ball by running the ball on the ground into YSU territory. And then for some reason instead of keeping running the ball we decide to throw a pass that gets intercepted. That changed the momentum of the game and YSU went down to score for a 10-9 win.

Doc

[Panther88]

Too many but the last 3 games inclusive of 1 vs Rice Univ and 1 vs SHSU left a horrible taste in my mouth. HORRIBLE special teams play (punting - long snapper/punter) cost victories against both where they singly gave 14 easy points to each opponent.

The last game vs Nicholls St @ our place was likewise as both teams were decently matched well but superior coaching proved to be the deciding factor.

Those 3 games were pivotal due to regional recruiting all schools do in the area (SWAC, SLC, and the regional Tx-La G5'ers). Must win those on the field games to also ensure the win @ the recruiting game.

[PaladinFan]

November 16, 2002 A 23-21 loss to Furman. After beating GSU and ASU, both on the road, a win would have given us our first conference championship and playoff appearance. On a cold, rainy, very muddy day, the Pukes scored the winning touchdown with 29 seconds left (Bobby Lamb took a knee for the extra point to play it safe). Our offense was unstoppable in the 4th quarter but 29 seconds isn't long for what was then a true triple option offense. After that, despite a 9-3 record with wins over ASU and GSU, the committee felt we weren't good enough for the playoffs.

That game stuck out to me because of the Miracle on the Mountain game a few weeks earlier. Furman gets a score late and instead of attempting the try in nasty conditions, just took a knee on the two point conversion.

I disagree on the 29 seconds bit, though. I would have agreed with you, but I remember watching Georgia Southern fly down the field throwing the ball against Furman in Greenville in 2004 with little time on the clock. Of course, I still think that 2004 GSU team had about as good an offense as I can remember seeing in FCS football.

[Go Green]

Here is my Top 5 Painful Losses list for Yale:

1) Harvard 2007- Yale came in 9-0. Harvard was 7-2 but 6-0 in league play. Harvard demolished Yale 37-6 before 57,248, the biggest Yale Bowl crowd in 18 years. Yale ended up with no undefeated season and no championship.

2) Princeton 1981- similar theme. Yale was 8-0 going into the game but lost 35-31. Yale had a 21 point lead at one point. Yale ended up 9-1 and co-champions with Dartmouth.

3) Harvard 1979- again an undefeated season spoiled as a 2-6 Harvard team upset an 8-0 Yale team 22-7 before a crowed of 72,000, the largest Yale Bowl crowd in 25 years.

4) Dartmouth 2017- A 3-0 Yale team was up 21-0 in the 2nd Quarter but Dartmouth came back with a winning TD with 35 seconds left to win 28-27. Yale had a 2nd half TD called back when the referee incorrectly ruled the Yale receiver was out of bounds. Yale ended up 9-1. The next season the Ivy League initiated instant replay reviews.

5) Princeton 2006 - Princeton was down by 14 points three different times in the game but prevailed to win 34-31 to cost Yale an unshared Ivy Title. They ended up sharing the title with Princeton with a 6-1 league record.

How about the 2009 loss to Harvard (i.e., the fake punt call game)?

[Sader87]

All those were terrible, but 29-29 was the worst "loss" followed closely by the 21-16 loss to Harvard in 1974 that ruined another possible perfect season.

Another horrible loss was the 1975 Harvard game. The score was 7-7 and Harvard lined up for a FG in the last few seconds. It was from only 26 yards, I believe, a chip shot. The kicker shanked the kick and the ball seemed to go straight up in the air. I remember thinking that he missed it, but the ball came down a couple of yards behind the crossbar and Yale lost the game and the Ivy title.

Longtime Boston TV news sportcaster, Mike Lynch made that FG I believe.

[Sitting Bull]

For any Tribe fan over 50, it’s a nightmare. The game even got a nickname, The Great Lane Robbery.

1979, W&M at Virginia Tech, Lane Stadium. Tech’s ball down 15-19, on 4th and 10 from midfield as time expired, pass heaved to end zone and through the hands of the receiver who was surrounded by three defenders. The ref signaled touchdown as the ball bounced out of the end zone. Final was 22-19.

It was mentioned prior to the game that if Tech won this game, ABC would televise their next game at home vs Clemson.

[bulldog10jw]

How about the 2009 loss to Harvard (i.e., the fake punt call game)?

And the 2005 triple OT loss to Harvard. I believe Yale was ahead 21-3 at one point.

[Son of Eli]

Well, as long as you are being masochistic- the 1968 29-29 (tel:1968 29-29) tie with Harvard had to be devastating after having a 16 point lead so late in the game.

Was going to include that but didn’t because technically it was not a loss. Also I limited my list to pain I personally experienced. I was still in diapers back then.

[Sader87]

For 1-AA Holy Cross, there really haven't been too many....more of a function of not being in too many games of consequence since 1991.

A couple of those Colgate games in the 00s come to mind...needed to win them to win the PL and lost tough ones up there.

Probably the "toughest/biggest" loss was the 28-21 defeat against Western Carolina in 1983 in our only home playoff game evah. HC was pretty banged up after playing a very good BC team the week before and didn't have the full services of many of their weapons such as All-American RB Gil Fenerty.

Game was tied 21-21 and we were on the WC 35 or so and we regretfully decided to punt on 4th and fairly short....you guessed it, punt blocked for a Catamount TD and HC ultimately lost by that score.

[Son of Eli]

How about the 2009 loss to Harvard (i.e., the fake punt call game)?

That was more embarrassing than painful. I bought a few coworkers with me to that game who had never seen Ivy League football before. After witnessing the stupid 4th and 22 from their own 28 fake punt one of them said said he would never go to an Ivy League game again because that call proved it was “bad quality football”. I couldn’t argue with him at the time. The call was beyond stupid.

[Son of Eli]

Don't forget too, Yale had stopped Dartmouth on 4th down on that winning TD drive, but was hit with a roughing the passer call. Not saying it was a bad call, just that we hurt ourselves.


Yes, can’t blame it all on the refs.

[Son of Eli]

And the 2005 triple OT loss to Harvard. I believe Yale was ahead 21-3 at one point.


I didn’t pick that game in my top 5 because it didn’t cost Yale an undefeated season or a championship, but it hurt.

[JALMOND]

For Portland State, only one comes to mind. In 2005, we went to Boise who had a 25-game home winning streak and was steamrolling everyone that came into their town during that streak. Halfway through the fourth quarter, we were outplaying them and had a 14-6 lead. The Broncos then scored their first touchdown, followed by a 2-point conversion to tie the game. We then turned the ball over and they scored another touchdown to win, 21-14. The only solace we could have was that the 21 points were the lowest points that Boise scored at home during that particular streak.

[WeAreThePride]

Probably that second straight loss to SDSU in '17. NDSU dominated everyone that year, but the bucking Funnies had our number.

[NY Crusader 2010]

Loss in the "Patriot League Championship" @ Colgate in 2008 in season finale. We came into the game after beating Lafayette on the road on a Hail Mary in what was effectively an "semi-final" elimination game. Up 14-0 early and 24-14 in the 3rd Quarter. Colgate 2nd and 5 and 3rd and 1'd us to death in the second half. We ended up losing 28-27 after the longest, most agonizing drive I can ever remember where the Raiders took five minutes to run out the clock and ended the game taking a knee at our 1 yard line. As solid as our 2009 PL Championship team was, the 2008 squad was probably our most dangerous. I think we would've been a scary playoff match-up that year.

Our 2008 team finished 7-4, losing our 4 games to UMASS, Harvard, Yale and Colgate by a combined 8 points. We squandered 2-TD leads against UMass, Harvard and Colgate and had a miraculous comeback against Yale erased in OT.

To add insult to injury, it was the second straight trip to Hamilton where we had a championship ripped away from us. In 2006, we were in control of our own destiny and wound up losing to a Colgate team that finished 4-7, with a short, late FG by our senior veteran kicker missing the mark badly (bounced off a lineman's helmet).

[Bisonator]

Aside from the ones already mentioned in here by Bison fans I'll add the 1984 division 2 national championship. Lost to Troy on a last second field goal.

[ysubigred]

worst part about that, if you follow the trend line ... and sorry to break the bad news to you in June like this, but you do realize it's 2020 ???

xnodx xdrunkyxI'm surprised you didn't say last years loss to the Guins? Made the dead birds look like a 3rd grade girls soccer team but you could make a run in the playoffs [emoji16]https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o752lF7lzMhX8XyNi/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7cc3689a88767cbd27e555e2f0acf 931efaf58987&rid=giphy.gif

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[ysubigred]

Dropped pass hurt. But another play that did it in my opinion was later in the 4th quarter. We had moved the ball by running the ball on the ground into YSU territory. And then for some reason instead of keeping running the ball we decide to throw a pass that gets intercepted. That changed the momentum of the game and YSU went down to score for a 10-9 win.

DocThe Guins were gassed on Defense your defense was killing the YSU offense.

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[TheValleyRaider]

Enjoy seeing Colgate on a few people's lists xlolx

I can think of a couple of games for Colgate. Not as many as I would have thought, as looking back our worst losses have been more "embarrassing" or "expected" rather than "painful"

- 1976 vs Rutgers in Giants Stadium. The ranked and unbeaten Scarlet Knights (not a typo) trailed 6-3 in the 3rd quarter. Officials botched a call, and instead of having the ball at the Rutgers 9 following a fumbled punt snap, Colgate was incorrectly called for clipping and lost 53 net yards and the ball. Rutgers scored, and eventually held on for a win.

- 1977 at Delaware. The Raiders got revenge against Rutgers in Hamilton to start the season (23-0 in front of a reported 12,000 people), and came into the last week of the season unbeaten and ranked in I-A (Colgate didn't become I-AA until a few years later). Missed 11-0 by dropping a game in Newark to the D-II Hens.

- 2003 vs Delaware (National Title Game). Internet research tells me the game ended 40-0, but I don't recall it ever happening. Certainly wasn't in the stands for it, no sir. Strange to end the season without a title game like that... xreadx

Some more recent ones, lesser import given the overall flow of the season, but still tough
- 2013 at Delaware (I'm noticing a pattern here...). First meeting since 2003, Hens scored two TDs in the final seven minutes to win 28-25. Not really a big game overall, but the history gave it a little extra sting
- 2016 vs Cornell. Raiders led 21-0 after the 1st, and 38-19 with 5:00 to go in the 3rd. Lost 39-38.
- 2017 vs Lehigh. I didn't actually see this one, but from what I hear a few dicey calls when Lehigh's way. Hawks won by three, and 7-4 Colgate lost the League title tiebreaker to 5-6 Lehigh.

[Redbird 4th & short]

For me...WIU at Colgate, 2003 Quarterfinals, in the snow. The whole game is on youtube, but here's part 5 of 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU28kzh75xE
https://gocolgateraiders.com/news/2003/12/6/news_1974.aspx
(https://gocolgateraiders.com/news/2003/12/6/news_1974.aspx)
A close second, Illinois State beating us in 2014 by 3 points after being up 27-6 late in the 3rd quarter: https://goleathernecks.com/news/2014/10/18/FB_1018145759.aspx

I recall it very well .. for opposite reasons of course. You guys had us completely on our heels the first half .. both sides of ball.

Funny thing about our "magical" 2014-15 season, we were a very inconsistent offense the first 8 games that season, other than Coprich running and our big play ability early on. But QB Roberson really struggled at times to find anything resembling consistency thru game 8 .. he padded his stats in som early easy games, but really sturggled against teams with a heartbeat. He could run and throw occassional deep ball, but anything underneath and even his pocket decisions were just so sporadic. You could always see the potentcy .. one play he would drop a dime 40 yards down field right where it needed to be. But then next play, he would throw a 20 yard pass to someone wide open in the flat, and it would bounce 10 feet short .. maddening at times.

WIU saw his worst and best that day .. I don't mean take anything away from WIU play and how they rattled him, but he was horrible the first half. Then came out 2nd half and he just lit it up. Similar things happened in week prior on road against ISUb ... and won that is last seconds too. he saved his worst game for UNI in game 8 again on road .. he was terrible.

It wasn't until game 9 that we started to find the mix and from that point on, Roberson's QBR was off the charts, plus you may have noticed he could run the read-option a little. He made so few mistakes and boneheaded plays in games 9 thru 15 .. I think he finished with a top 3 QBR for entire season. So I have no doubt his QBR the last 7 games was astronomical .. TDs to PIcks was like 16 to 1, his yards per attempt was also off the charts for entire season, but especially the last 7 games.

We could easily have lost either (or both) of those road games .. ISUb or your WIU. Who knows how season would have gone from there.

[lionsrking2]

SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA

1960: 17-14 loss at Louisiana Tech. This one is a bitter pill to this day for Lions fans of that era and those who played in the game. Southeastern entered the game undefeated and both teams ranked in top 8. With under 2 minutes to play, La Tech returns a punt for a TD for the winning score. Film shows a pretty obvious clip with ref reaching for flag then pulling hand away. The Lions finished the season 9-1.

2020: Last year's bizarre 28-27 loss to Nicholls State. Playing for the SLC No. 1 playoff position, in front of an electric, overflow Strawberry Stadium crowd, the Lions fumble at the Colonels one-yard line in the final seconds. This game had it all and epitomized everything a bitter rivalry should be about.

1961: 21-8 loss at McNeese. After the stinging defeat at La Tech in 1960, SLU made amends by blasting the Bulldogs in the rematch, running their record to 8-0 and a No. 3 national ranking. But the elation didn't last long, as the Lions fell flat in Lake Charles the following week. SLU would go on to shutout Northwestern State to close out the season 9-1, surrendering just 55 points on the season.

1952: 20-12 loss at Southern Mississippi. Lions only loss of the season to a Golden Eagle team that finished 11-2.

2009: 36-35 loss at McNeese State. The Lions entered the game 4-2 overall and 2-0 in league play vs ranked McNeese. We fell behind 24-7 late in the second quarter but rallied for 28 unanswered points to take a 35-24 lead into the 4th quarter. McNeese tacked on a score early in the 4th to make it 35-30. We missed a 38 yard field goal with three minutes to play, leaving the door open for the Cowboys to drive 78 yards for the winning score with 40 seconds left.

2014: 21-17 playoff loss at Sam Houston State: The Lions led 10-0 at the half and were in complete control early in the 3rd quarter but a couple of special teams blunders opened the door for the Bearkats, including fumbling a punt inside our own five to set up a Kat TD. Sam went on to make a semifinal run in Keeler's first year.

1980: 16-14 loss at Northwestern State. In the first year as a I-AA member, the Lions entered the season finale 8-1, with wins over eventual National Champion Boise State, Jackson State, Illinois State and Northeast Louisiana. Leading 14-10 late in the game, future NFL QB, Bobby Hebert, heaved a long bomb to future NFL WR, Mark Duper, for the winning score.

2004: 31-28 double overtime loss at Texas State. In year two after reinstating football, Hal Mumme's Lions entered the game 2-0, following a 51-17 upset at McNeese the previous week. Lions got off to a slow start but rallied to tie the game at 28-28 to force overtime. In the first overtime, Texas State missed a field goal, giving SLU a chance to win the game. The Lions drove the ball down to the TSU one-yard line, but on the ensuing play, fumble into the endzone without being touched by a Bobcat defender. SLU gets the ball first in the second overtime but misses a 33-yard FG. Texas State nails a FG for the win.

[kdinva]

2003} VMI led Liberty by 28-3 with one quarter to play......Offense then went stagnet, two 3 and outs, 2 turnovers, Liberty scored 28 points, & the go-ahead TD w/about 35 seconds to play. Also lost to ElCid by 4 in Charlotte.....VMI finished 6-6 that year.

[FUBeAR]

2003} VMI led Liberty by 28-3 with one quarter to play......Offense then went stagnet, two 3 and outs, 2 turnovers, Liberty scored 28 points, & the go-ahead TD w/about 35 seconds to play. Also lost to ElCid by 4 in Charlotte.....VMI finished 6-6 that year.

Hmmm....I would think the game highlighted in red below would be on the list, if not very near the top. In a year when the Keydets beat Army & VaTech, and darn near beat UVa, losing a game @ Home to Furman, which would have clinched the SoCon Championship & an undefeated SoCon season for the Roos, would have been a bit painful. As FUBeAR was on the Alumni Stadium field that day, I know the VMI Players were certainly heartbroken.

VMI (6-3-1)
1981/09/12 VMI 21 - Western Carolina (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/wcar.shtml) 14
1981/09/19 VMI 14 - Army (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/army.shtml) 7
1981/10/03 VMI 31 - William and Mary (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/wilmar.shtml) 14
1981/10/10 VMI 14 - Citadel (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/cit.shtml) 0
1981/10/17 VMI 14 - Appalachian St (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/appst.shtml) 14
1981/10/24 VMI 20 - Marshall (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/marsh.shtml) 16
1981/10/31 Virginia (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/va.shtml) 13 - VMI 10
1981/11/07 Richmond (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/rich.shtml) 45 - VMI 14
1981/11/14 Furman (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/furm.shtml) 33 - VMI 21
1981/11/21 VMI 6 - Virginia Tech (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/vatech.shtml) 0

[UAalum72]

2011, Albany's first FCS playoff game, at Stony Brook. The two SUNY schools hadn't played in four years since SBU left the NEC for the BS. Albany takes a 28-10 lead in the third, but Seawolves stuff the Albany run game and go up 31-28. Albany drives to a first-and-goal at the 7, Drew Smith gains four yards on first down. Next call is a pass play to set up a replay of the 1st-down call and DiLella is supposed to throw it away if not wide open (you can always kick the tying FG on 4th down.) Instead he tries to force it in, the ball's tipped and intercepted with 00:47 left. Then 50-year-old SBU "fan" yelling at us to go back to Albany, like Long Island isn't some kind of hellhole.

[katss07]

2013 Second Round against SELA. I still hate Bryan Bennett.

[ElCid]

Hmmm....I would think the game highlighted in red below would be on the list, if not very near the top. In a year when the Keydets beat Army & VaTech, and darn near beat UVa, losing a game @ Home to Furman, which would have clinched the SoCon Championship & an undefeated SoCon season for the Roos, would have been a bit painful. As FUBeAR was on the Alumni Stadium field that day, I know the VMI Players were certainly heartbroken.

VMI (6-3-1)
1981/09/12 VMI 21 - Western Carolina (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/wcar.shtml) 14
1981/09/19 VMI 14 - Army (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/army.shtml) 7
1981/10/03 VMI 31 - William and Mary (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/wilmar.shtml) 14
1981/10/10 VMI 14 - Citadel (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/cit.shtml) 0
1981/10/17 VMI 14 - Appalachian St (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/appst.shtml) 14
1981/10/24 VMI 20 - Marshall (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/marsh.shtml) 16
1981/10/31 Virginia (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/va.shtml) 13 - VMI 10
1981/11/07 Richmond (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/rich.shtml) 45 - VMI 14
1981/11/14 Furman (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/furm.shtml) 33 - VMI 21
1981/11/21 VMI 6 - Virginia Tech (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/1981/vatech.shtml) 0

I certainly remember our game on 10 Oct that year. My first road trip to watch the Bulldogs and we lost. At the Oyster Bowl in Norfolk. This was the last year the SOCON was IA/FBS. Since then we are 25-8-1 against the Keydets. Having not lost to them since 02, this past year's loss was relatively painful. But since I like an improved VMI team, I can live with it.

[aceinthehole]

For CCSU fans, there are 2 games that stick out.

Nov. 25, 2017 - Central loses 14-0 to #21 New Hampshire in the FCS Playoffs

The Central Connecticut football team's eight-game winning streak came to an end on the road in the first round of the NCAA Playoffs on Saturday as the Blue Devils fell 14-0 to #21 New Hampshire. The loss gives the Blue Devils a final record of 8-4 on the season, including a perfect 6-0 Northeast Conference record and league championship.

Central could not find the end zone and turned the ball over four times in the game. The defensive unit, led by seniors Seth Manzanares (14 tackles, two sacks) and Randall Laguerre (12 tackles) held New Hampshire to just 61 rushing yards and kept the Blue Devils within striking distance the entire game. The defensive unit also blocked a field goal (senior Chad Woodfine) in the game.
https://ccsu.prestosports.com/sports/fball/2017-18/releases/20171125kqaipg


Nov. 6, 2010 - CCSU loses at RMU and give the Colonials the NEC first FCS Playoff appearance.

The Central Connecticut football team had its five-game winning streak snapped and dropped a Northeast Conference game for the first time this season with a 42-24 loss on the road at Robert Morris on Saturday. The loss drops Central to 6-3 overall and 5-1 in league action. The win by RMU gives them at least a share of the NEC title this season and they will represent the NEC in the FCS playoffs this season.https://ccsu.prestosports.com/sports/fball/2010-11/releases/205025929_1

[grayghost06]

2007 playoffs against App St. It was the year they beat Michigan and won their 3rd straight NC. Outplayed them, but just had a complete meltdown in the last half of the 4th quarter. Fumbled inside the 10 yard line while running down the clock for a chip shot FG.

[ASU33]

2019-UAB-(24-19)-We out played UAB, got inside the 5 yard line twice in the last 6 minutes and came away with zero points. This should've been our first another FBS win for us.

2013-Jacksonville State (24-22) We miss a chip shot FG instead of going for it from the 6 yard line. Another game where we had no business losing.

2011-Eastern Michigan (14-7) Another FBS game that we should've won. We dropped 2 td passes and then fumbled inside the 1. Should've walked away with a 14+ point win.

2010-SWAC Championship vs Texas Southern- (11-6) A true defensive knock down drag out. Defensively we only gave up 163 total yards and 6 points but offensively we only gained 103 yards, gave up a safety, and could only score 6.

Magic City Classic-2000,2002, 2003, 2005- All three were losses by 4 points or less with 2002 and 2005 costing us a trip to the SWAC Championship Game

2001-SWAC Championship Game vs Grambling (38-31)-Led at one point 24-7, went into the 4th quarter leading 31-14 and let it all slip away.

2000-Troy State(17-16)-Gave up 14 points in the last 3:38 seconds to the Trojans.

[lionsrking2]

2013 Second Round against SELA. I still hate Bryan Bennett.

Love me some BB. Classic comeback.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1nxLeSIT8c

[Ivytalk]

Harvard (I'll divide this into three: pre-Ivy League, Ivy League [non-The Game] and Harvard-Yale games):

Pre-1954
1921 - Centre College (currently D-III) 6-0 (was it an upset or not, in their day?)

Ivy League era
1966 - Princeton - 18-14
1974 - Rutgers - 24-21 (our very last football game with them; they have moved on akin to UMass)
1974 - Brown - 10-7
1988 - UMass - 45-28 (I've heard from UMass fans here years before that off-campus violence ended this series' potential too soon; Ivytalk disagrees with them; this was also the start of a 5-game losing streak in that season.)
1988 - Boston U - 24-23 (hmm, were the Terriers at their peak at this time? BTW, this was our very last football game with them. Pacific-style indifference to football led by John Silber carried on to its disbandment after 1997.)
1993 - William and Mary - 45-17 (why did Murphy and/or Harvard's AD killed off the series and its potential? xchinscratchx)
1997 - Bucknell - 24-20
2003 - Dartmouth - 30-16 (Championship guardrails for that season were loosensed with this loss)
2008 - Brown - 24-22 (oops moment)
2009 - Quackers - 17-7
2013 - Princeton - 51-48 (triple OT)
2015 - Quackers - 35-25

The Game
1952 - "ultimate insult" game - 41-14
1968 - 29-29 (Harvard won, but there is a catch, depending on whom you source your information...)
1998 - 9-7
1999 - 24-21
2000 - 34-24
Sorry, bonarae, your list includes some disappointing losses, but not truly painful ones. I’ll supply several that you missed.

1982 — Penn 23, Harvard 21. Harvard storms back with two scores in the fourth quarter to take a 21-20 lead. Penn lines up for game-winning FG and misses it. But a late phantom “roughing the kicker” flag gives Penn another chance, and the swan-diving kicker makes this one. Harvard didn’t beat Penn again in Philadelphia until 2004.

1985 — Princeton 11, Harvard 6. Nursing a 6-3 lead late in the fourth quarter, but buried deep in its own territory, Harvard elects to take an intentional safety. Unfortunately, Princeton’s Tom Urquhart returns the ensuing free kick for a game-winning TD.

2000 — Cornell 29, Harvard 28. Biggest pooch-screwing of the Murphy era. Harvard led this one 28-0 at the half and lost in regulation.

2019 — This Godforsaken season had several candidates, given that Harvard blew second-half leads in each of its last five games. But the Dartmouth 9-6 Hail-Mary loss and the 50-43 double-OT loss to Yale (in which the choad-choking Harvard defense coughed up a double-digit 4Q lead) topped the list.

[MR. CHICKEN]

xconfusedx
Sorry, bonarae, your list includes some disappointing losses, but not truly painful ones. I’ll supply several that you missed.

1982 — Penn 23, Harvard 21. Harvard storms back with two scores in the fourth quarter to take a 21-20 lead. Penn lines up for game-winning FG and misses it. But a late phantom “roughing the kicker” flag gives Penn another chance, and the swan-diving kicker makes this one. Harvard didn’t beat Penn again in Philadelphia until 2004.

1985 — Princeton 11, Harvard 6. Nursing a 6-3 lead late in the fourth quarter, but buried deep in its own territory, Harvard elects to take an intentional safety. Unfortunately, Princeton’s Tom Urquhart returns the ensuing free kick for a game-winning TD.

2000 — Cornell 29, Harvard 28. Biggest pooch-screwing of the Murphy era. Harvard led this one 28-0 at the half and lost in regulation.

2019 — This Godforsaken season had several candidates, given that Harvard blew second-half leads in each of its last five games. But the Dartmouth 9-6 Hail-Mary loss and the 50-43 double-OT loss to Yale (in which the choad-choking Harvard defense coughed up a double-digit 4Q lead) topped the list.

....UMM.....KNOW YOUSE IVIES........ARE UH TAD MO' INTELLIGENT.........BUT AH CAIN'T....SEEM TA FIND DIS WORD.....IN....MAH APPLE......OR.......WEBSTER'S...DICTIONARY......xc onfusedx.......BRAWK!

[UAalum72]

Harvard (I'll divide this into three: pre-Ivy League, Ivy League [non-The Game] and Harvard-Yale games):

Pre-1954
1921 - Centre College (currently D-III) 6-0 (was it an upset or not, in their day?)

Was thought shocking (H had won the 1920 Rose Bowl and was undefeated), and retroactively named a top upset by AP, NYT and ESPN, but people ignored the Praying Colonels also beat Arizona, Auburn, VaTech and Clemson in 1921.

Harvard declined a rematch 75 years later.

[Ivytalk]

xconfusedx

....UMM.....KNOW YOUSE IVIES........ARE UH TAD MO' INTELLIGENT.........BUT AH CAIN'T....SEEM TA FIND DIS WORD.....IN....MAH APPLE......OR.......WEBSTER'S...DICTIONARY......xc onfusedx.......BRAWK!
Mr. Chicken, Urban Dictionary provides what Webster’s can’t...or won’t!xsmiley_wix

[NDSUKurt]

My disclaimer is that I am only going back to 2003, when I started my freshman year at NDSU.

For me, this has changed over the years. Right now, I list it like this:

1. The 2016 Semi-final loss to James Madison. At the time, it didn't bother me that much as we had a rough season with injuries and we had won the previous 5 in a row. But now, looking back, it really hurts because it is the one that got away in our string of championships.

2. The 2010 quarter-final loss at Eastern Washington. This used to be number 1 for me, but I think that this game is what set everything up for NDSU.

3. The 2004 loss at South Dakota State. My friend and I won tickets to the game and drove to Brookings. The Bison lost it in the last few minutes, and the SDSU fans were jerks as we left

4. The 2006 loss at Minnesota. We had them and played better than them. The ease about the loss was that we knew we were going to play them again the next season (which NDSU won).

[clenz]

Have any of your teams lead a game by 4 with 6 seconds left...and lost by 9?

No?

How about that kind of loss not even making the top 10?

Also no?

/thread

[Smitty]

This could go on for hours but I can add a couple

2016 WCU vs ETSU at Bristol Motor Speedway - WCU was winning 21-3 with 2 minutes before half then allowed ETSU to score 24 straight points before winning overall in the 4th. The only other SoCon team to lose to ETSU that year was Samford

2010 Tusculum vs WCU - 54-30 - I don't really need to say any more about this

2017 Mercer vs WCU - 33-35 - basically knocking us out of the playoffs extending the drought since 1983

The sad part is I could go on...

[FormerPokeCenter]

2010 Tusculum vs WCU - 54-30 - I don't really need to say any more about this

I don't know anything about Tusculum, but the fact that I've never heard of them makes me think this might rank right up there with Lambuth's epic takedown of the mightly BCS power Georgia State...

[Go Green]

1985 — Princeton 11, Harvard 6. Nursing a 6-3 lead late in the fourth quarter, but buried deep in its own territory, Harvard elects to take an intentional safety. Unfortunately, Princeton’s Tom Urquhart returns the ensuing free kick for a game-winning TD.

My high school JV team lost a game in that same fashion.

Oh, that sucked.... :(

[Sader87]

This could go on for hours but I can add a couple

2016 WCU vs ETSU at Bristol Motor Speedway - WCU was winning 21-3 with 2 minutes before half then allowed ETSU to score 24 straight points before winning overall in the 4th. The only other SoCon team to lose to ETSU that year was Samford

2010 Tusculum vs WCU - 54-30 - I don't really need to say any more about this

2017 Mercer vs WCU - 33-35 - basically knocking us out of the playoffs extending the drought since 1983

The sad part is I could go on...

I did not know that WCU hadn't been back to the playoffs since the year we played back then.....feel your pain xdrunkyx

[Go Green]

Have any of your teams lead a game by 4 with 6 seconds left...and lost by 9?

No?



I don't expect Princeton guys to bring this up, but they were ahead of Dartmouth by three with a second to go and lost by 10 at the end of regulation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exXYbsKVDXQ

[Gil Dobie]

1981 NCAA DII Championship game, getting blown out by Texas St and former coach Jim Wacker
1982 NCAA DII Playoff loss at UC Davis, "That "last play" was an incomplete pass from QB Mark Nellermoe to TE Mark Luedtke."
1984 NCAA DII Championship game loss on a 50 yard FG as time ran out, to Troy St
2007 SDSU, after beating Central Michigan 44-14 and Minnesota, lose to SDSU and ends an undefeated season
2010 Quarter Finals loss to EWU
2016 Semi Finals loss to James Madison

[mvfcfan]

Here's for ISU in no particular order.

Before my time, but I was told Indiana State was ranked #1 back in the early 80's and we played Middle Tennessee in the first round of the playoffs. We were trailing 21-0 at the end of the first quarter before rallying back. We went for 2 to try to win the game and failed.

Another one near the same time frame. I was told we had the lead in the 4th quarter against the Florida Gators before they rallied to win the game.

Not sure when this was but supposedly we scored a TD to take the lead in the final minute at Kansas State by 1 point. We went for 2 to take a 3 point lead only to have it returned for a pick-2 and we lost by 1.

Moving into my lifetime we had another Middle Tennessee moment. In 2010 we had a 6-4 record and would have made the playoffs if we could have beaten Southern Illinois. We fell behind 21-0 only to rally back and tie it at 21. We ended up losing by 7.

In 2009 we were up 17-0 on D2 Quincy at halftime ready to break the nations longest losing streak before losing 26-20 in OT. We ended up breaking it on homecoming that year against WIU.

I seem to remember in 2008 we had to hold MO State on the final play of the game and we would win to break the longest losing streak. Only they scored a TD and we lost on the final play.

The loss to Kansas still stings from this past season. We have still never beaten a P5 and that was our best chance to ever do it.

In 2013 we were driving at Purdue down 20-14 before throwing a pick that ended the game. Our RB Shakir Bell was out with injury otherwise we would have probably won the game.

In 2012 we were robbed at IU. Another P5 game we should have won.

In 2014 on homecoming against Illinois State we had the infamous failed squib kick that hit the first line of Redbirds after we had just taken the lead with around a minute to go. ILST ended up getting ball at midfield and won the game with a FG.

Two seasons ago we overcame a huge deficit at South Dakota State only to not know the clock was running. We had to settle for 3 to send the game to OT where we lost.

One last good one. We were on a long losing streak and scheduled an NAIA school and were completely blown out. The mistake was that that NAIA school was ranked #1 at the time.

As you can tell we truly find ways to lose at ISU.

[cx500d]

Here's for ISU in no particular order.

Before my time, but I was told Indiana State was ranked #1 back in the early 80's and we played Middle Tennessee in the first round of the playoffs. We were trailing 21-0 at the end of the first quarter before rallying back. We went for 2 to try to win the game and failed.

Another one near the same time frame. I was told we had the lead in the 4th quarter against the Florida Gators before they rallied to win the game.

Not sure when this was but supposedly we scored a TD to take the lead in the final minute at Kansas State by 1 point. We went for 2 to take a 3 point lead only to have it returned for a pick-2 and we lost by 1.

Moving into my lifetime we had another Middle Tennessee moment. In 2010 we had a 6-4 record and would have made the playoffs if we could have beaten Southern Illinois. We fell behind 21-0 only to rally back and tie it at 21. We ended up losing by 7.

In 2009 we were up 17-0 on D2 Quincy at halftime ready to break the nations longest losing streak before losing 26-20 in OT. We ended up breaking it on homecoming that year against WIU.

I seem to remember in 2008 we had to hold MO State on the final play of the game and we would win to break the longest losing streak. Only they scored a TD and we lost on the final play.

The loss to Kansas still stings from this past season. We have still never beaten a P5 and that was our best chance to ever do it.

In 2013 we were driving at Purdue down 20-14 before throwing a pick that ended the game. Our RB Shakir Bell was out with injury otherwise we would have probably won the game.

In 2012 we were robbed at IU. Another P5 game we should have won.

In 2014 on homecoming against Illinois State we had the infamous failed squib kick that hit the first line of Redbirds after we had just taken the lead with around a minute to go. ILST ended up getting ball at midfield and won the game with a FG.

Two seasons ago we overcame a huge deficit at South Dakota State only to not know the clock was running. We had to settle for 3 to send the game to OT where we lost.

One last good one. We were on a long losing streak and scheduled an NAIA school and were completely blown out. The mistake was that that NAIA school was ranked #1 at the time.

As you can tell we truly find ways to lose at ISU.
Only that poor sap godhelpthebears can top your tales of woe.

[Bill]

For me, it is Lehigh's home playoff loss to JMU in 2004. We had them...and a phantom - and I mean phantom - personal foul call on one of our DL's kept their drive alive.
From Lehigh's web site:
"James Madison came right back however, taking the ensuing kickoff and driving64-yards down the field to the Mountain Hawk one, where it took the Dukes seven tries to score the go-ahead points, which was a one-yard scamper by Raymond Hines.James Madison was stuffed on the first set of downs and it appeared as though Lehigh had come away unharmed, but a personal foul versus the Mountain Hawks gave James Madison a fresh set of downs, and following another set of stops allowed Hines to find his way into the end zone making the score 14-10, which is how it would remain heading into halftime."

Not a misprint. We stuffed them 6 straight times from the one....uggh.

We lose 14-13, and JMU goes on to become National Champs.

https://lehighsports.com/news/2004/11/27/FB_6490.aspx

[JayJ79]

Have any of your teams lead a game by 4 with 6 seconds left...and lost by 9?

No?

How about that kind of loss not even making the top 10?

Also no?

/thread
in football?

[Hood]

I'm a Nicholls grad/fan. How you expect me to pick one out of the massive pile of losses to choose from? We're still lifetime below .500, even with the recent years of Rebowe success.

I guess right off the top, it wouldn't be TOO fair to identify rivalry game losses. You'd expect your "rival" to be playing "up" for the game and not dogging it, so if we lost to SLU, NWST, SWTX, etc... good on them for going in with a plan to win. I'd even lump McNeese into that because most of the time a McNeese loss is a loss to a good squad anyway (though 2003 STUNG like a murder hornet. At least we had an entertaining bench clearing brawl to entertain the home crowd since our defense was just letting King run up and down the field).

Definitely anytime we lost to a D2 school. We're 0-3 (probably 0-4 if that last one didn't get Hurricane cancelled) against Texas A&M Kingsville. In our 0-12 season we lost to D2 power Henderson State. Which, I get a lower tier FCS team losing to an upper tier D2, but the Colonels just came out FLAT and had zero heart. It was heart breaking just seeing how easy the home team was being handled by a lower division school. More spirit breaking than heart breaking.

We had a money game against Air Force toward the tail end of our Triple Option years, (2009) and while I know we were supposed to lose, 72-0 was a slap in the face, and my heart broke for those kids. The way I understood it from local gossip (unsubstantiated) is that our playbook was literally FROM Air Force, and our coaching staff did very little to vary it up. If I recall correctly we wound up having to stick a Freshman QB into that slaughter. The Falcons knew what was going to happen before most of the offense. At least a touchdown would have counted for some morale. It was a disaster. It flatly killed our season.

And I mean yeah, there were a lot of blow outs against I-AA/FCS foes, a lot against SLC competition, but GENERALLY it was a better team whooping a perennial bad team. I have questions as to why SHSU shut us out in 2019, but I don't begrudge them for socking a ranked team in the mouth. But it wasn't heart breaking.

[caribbeanhen]

2011, Albany's first FCS playoff game, at Stony Brook. The two SUNY schools hadn't played in four years since SBU left the NEC for the BS. Albany takes a 28-10 lead in the third, but Seawolves stuff the Albany run game and go up 31-28. Albany drives to a first-and-goal at the 7, Drew Smith gains four yards on first down. Next call is a pass play to set up a replay of the 1st-down call and DiLella is supposed to throw it away if not wide open (you can always kick the tying FG on 4th down.) Instead he tries to force it in, the ball's tipped and intercepted with 00:47 left. Then 50-year-old SBU "fan" yelling at us to go back to Albany, like Long Island isn't some kind of hellhole.

Port Jefferson is a nice spot on a very Long and Ugly Island

[ST_Lawson]

in football?
Yup: https://goleathernecks.com/sports/football/stats/2017/northern-iowa/boxscore/5845
(https://goleathernecks.com/sports/football/stats/2017/northern-iowa/boxscore/5845)
Back and forth game but UNI found themselves down 25-14 after a WIU TD early in the 4th. They stormed back with a couple of 80+ yard drives for TDs to take a 29-25 lead with 1:12 left in the game.
WIU got the ball back and spent nearly the entirety of that time moving down the field, ending in a 20-yd TD pass with 6 seconds left to take a 32-29 lead.

Then, on the kickoff to UNI, the ball was fumbled by the return man right into the arms of a WIU defender who was able to take it straight back into the end zone for 6 more points as time expired.

Final score was 38-29.

[McNeese75]

I'm a Nicholls grad/fan. How you expect me to pick one out of the massive pile of losses to choose from? We're still lifetime below .500, even with the recent years of Rebowe success.

I guess right off the top, it wouldn't be TOO fair to identify rivalry game losses. You'd expect your "rival" to be playing "up" for the game and not dogging it, so if we lost to SLU, NWST, SWTX, etc... good on them for going in with a plan to win. I'd even lump McNeese into that because most of the time a McNeese loss is a loss to a good squad anyway (though 2003 STUNG like a murder hornet. At least we had an entertaining bench clearing brawl to entertain the home crowd since our defense was just letting King run up and down the field).

Definitely anytime we lost to a D2 school. We're 0-3 (probably 0-4 if that last one didn't get Hurricane cancelled) against Texas A&M Kingsville. In our 0-12 season we lost to D2 power Henderson State. Which, I get a lower tier FCS team losing to an upper tier D2, but the Colonels just came out FLAT and had zero heart. It was heart breaking just seeing how easy the home team was being handled by a lower division school. More spirit breaking than heart breaking.

We had a money game against Air Force toward the tail end of our Triple Option years, (2009) and while I know we were supposed to lose, 72-0 was a slap in the face, and my heart broke for those kids. The way I understood it from local gossip (unsubstantiated) is that our playbook was literally FROM Air Force, and our coaching staff did very little to vary it up. If I recall correctly we wound up having to stick a Freshman QB into that slaughter. The Falcons knew what was going to happen before most of the offense. At least a touchdown would have counted for some morale. It was a disaster. It flatly killed our season.

And I mean yeah, there were a lot of blow outs against I-AA/FCS foes, a lot against SLC competition, but GENERALLY it was a better team whooping a perennial bad team. I have questions as to why SHSU shut us out in 2019, but I don't begrudge them for socking a ranked team in the mouth. But it wasn't heart breaking.

Vic King did that to a few teams. It sucked he got hurt at the end of that year.

[BEAR]

I'd have to say some of our FBS losses were heartbreaking.

2009: Hawaii- We were leading FBS Hawaii with just over a minute left in the game before they scored the winning TD. We were a transitional D2 school. We were running the ball down their throats and eating the clock up! The score was UCA 20- Hawaii 19. Then our coach decided to THROW the ball. Something Hawaii had defended so well. WHY the frick would coach Clamp Crank do that!? Was it because they paid us like a million dollars and put us up for like a week in hotels in Hawaii? No idea. The players were confused and mad too! Talked to one of them and they said they could have easily run the clock out on Hawaii. Instead if I recall Hawaii intercepted it and eventually scored the game winning TD.

2014: Texas Tech- With about 3 minutes left we tried an onside kick because we were down 7 points and knew TTU would likely be able to run the clock down by running the ball. We were exhausted. They got the onside and did just that. They had just enough energy and subs to hold us off. It just seemed like they were JUST ahead of us every possession. They didn't dominate. Their crowds were quiet for the most part. It was frustrating to see all that effort by the players come to a loss. Great game. Their coach was pretty impressed according to his post game interview but I guess it is easy to speak after a win.

[FormerPokeCenter]

While not the MOST heartbreaking loss in McNeese history, this one was still pretty heartbreaking...the uncalled clip on Abdullah's beastmode run with 35 seconds to go, first seen at the 6:10 mark, and again in the reverse angle at 6:42 in this video still pisses me off...there are two chances an FCS team gets that call in a BCS stadium. Slim, and None.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmSjl6yEyUk

[POD Knows]

While not the MOST heartbreaking loss in McNeese history, this one was still pretty heartbreaking...the uncalled clip on Abdullah's beastmode run with 35 seconds to go, first seen at the 6:10 mark, and again in the reverse angle at 6:42 in this video still pisses me off...there are two chances an FCS team gets that call in a BCS stadium. Slim, and None.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmSjl6yEyUkMaybe if your D knew how to tackle, that "clip" wouldn't have been an issue

[FormerPokeCenter]

Maybe if your D knew how to tackle, that "clip" wouldn't have been an issue

He only gained 67 yards on 17 carries...I'd say they tackled him pretty well considering that he gashed Florida Atlantic, Miami and Illinois for more than 200 rushing yard each and finished the year with over 1600 yard rushing...

[cx500d]

Yup: https://goleathernecks.com/sports/football/stats/2017/northern-iowa/boxscore/5845
(https://goleathernecks.com/sports/football/stats/2017/northern-iowa/boxscore/5845)
Back and forth game but UNI found themselves down 25-14 after a WIU TD early in the 4th. They stormed back with a couple of 80+ yard drives for TDs to take a 29-25 lead with 1:12 left in the game.
WIU got the ball back and spent nearly the entirety of that time moving down the field, ending in a 20-yd TD pass with 6 seconds left to take a 32-29 lead.

Then, on the kickoff to UNI, the ball was fumbled by the return man right into the arms of a WIU defender who was able to take it straight back into the end zone for 6 more points as time expired.

Final score was 38-29.
Farley....

[tallgeorgiagent]

This one's easy for me. 1988 vs Furman. Furman leads 10-7 Mocs QB Vince Carelli attempts to sneak in for the game winning TD and fumbles the ball at the goal line recovered by Furman.
The year Furman goes on to win the NC. Can't ever remember one stinging as much as this one did.

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[JSUSoutherner]

Auburn.

[Hood]

Vic King did that to a few teams. It sucked he got hurt at the end of that year. Fact checking myself: He only scored once in that game but still put up 117 yards. That man was probably head and shoulders the best player we saw that year and we played against a pretty good USF squad in week 2. It was so brutal, the following Monday in whichever class (it was my final semester so they all blur as ''hard'') I was ranting to the center about an offsides that wasn't called. He cut me off, "nah man, McNeese knew our count on that one. the LB was flying over my head as I was snapping the ball, there was nothing I could do to stop him, but it was 100% clean." He did indicate the bench clearing brawl was great fun though. I tried joining the melee but the band director horse collared me somewhere between the drums and the clarinets. Which is fine, I was out of breath running down the steps anyway.

[McNeese75]

Vic's breakout was against Jacksonville State in Ala in 2001. The game was delayed due to really bad weather and Tornado sightings near the stadium (we sat in the car drinking beer and rubbernecking for funnel clouds during the delay). It was raining, windy and messy as hell. Vic was not a starter that game but if memory serves he came in near or in the 2nd half and proceeded to rush for over 200 yards.

[WeAreThePride]

Auburn.
*Butt

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Mine for Lehigh

1998 Umass 27-21 quarterfinals loss. Lehigh had 1st and goal with a minute left and couldn't get it done. UMass went on to win the national title. Had Lehigh won they face Georgia Southern in 'Nooga. Northwestern State wasn't beating UMass or Lehigh in the semifinals.....

2005 Lafayette 23-19 loss. "The Big Hurt" strikes on a 4th down and a mile wheel route after Lehigh head coach Pete Lembo took a timeout which caused Tavani to opt out of game tying FG. Lehigh finished 8-3 and out of the playoffs after spending much of the year in the Top 10. They had 3 brutal losses that year including a collapse/missed XP OT loss to Delaware.

1991 Holy Cross 43-42 loss. Both teams entered in undefeated ranked the Top 20, Holy Cross top 5, and the game received national attention. Lehigh's failed 2 point conversion as time was running out proved to be the difference. The game was tied 7-7 at half....

[70MilesFromCanada]

The Mike Mooney game” or simply known as the “The strip.” In 1993, in the fourth quarter at UND's Memorial Stadium, UND was bracing for its 13thstraight loss to NDSU, when suddenly bedlam ensued. UND linebacker Mike Mooney, who, folklore holds was turned down by NDSU in the recruiting process years earlier, stripped the ball from a Bison player and scampered the other way for a UND touchdown and an eventual 22-21 victory over the vaunted Bison.

Wait a minute...that was painful for the Bison, not the Sioux! Oh well, memorable ‘cause I was there.

[cx500d]

The Mike Mooney game” or simply known as the “The strip.” In 1993, in the fourth quarter at UND's Memorial Stadium, UND was bracing for its 13thstraight loss to NDSU, when suddenly bedlam ensued. UND linebacker Mike Mooney, who, folklore holds was turned down by NDSU in the recruiting process years earlier, stripped the ball from a Bison player and scampered the other way for a UND touchdown and an eventual 22-21 victory over the vaunted Bison.

Wait a minute...that was painful for the Bison, not the Sioux! Oh well, memorable ‘cause I was there.
That's racist cultural misappropriation. You should be ashamed.

[NY Crusader 2010]

Mine for Lehigh

1998 Umass 27-21 quarterfinals loss. Lehigh had 1st and goal with a minute left and couldn't get it done. UMass went on to win the national title. Had Lehigh won they face Georgia Southern in 'Nooga. Northwestern State wasn't beating UMass or Lehigh in the semifinals.....

2005 Lafayette 23-19 loss. "The Big Hurt" strikes on a 4th down and a mile wheel route after Lehigh head coach Pete Lembo took a timeout which caused Tavani to opt out of game tying FG. Lehigh finished 8-3 and out of the playoffs after spending much of the year in the Top 10. They had 3 brutal losses that year including a collapse/missed XP OT loss to Delaware.

1991 Holy Cross 43-42 loss. Both teams entered in undefeated ranked the Top 20, Holy Cross top 5, and the game received national attention. Lehigh's failed 2 point conversion as time was running out proved to be the difference. The game was tied 7-7 at half....

Twice in a relatively short span, you guys had an eventual national champ out of the A-10 on the ropes in the playoffs. I remember when Lehigh hosted JMU in 2004 and lost 14-13 which if I recall came down to a goal line stand as well.

[70MilesFromCanada]

That's racist cultural misappropriation. You should be ashamed.

Sorry, but it was factually correct in 1993. You can’t change history pal.

[cx500d]

Sorry, but it was factually correct in 1993. You can’t change history pal.
Yes you can change history, but it will take a jackhammer to your ice palace to do so.

[Go Green]

Apparently, we talked about this back in 2011 as well.

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?99501-What-Are-Your-Team-s-5-Most-Painful-Losses-(Games)

[Ivytalk]

Apparently, we talked about this back in 2011 as well.

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?99501-What-Are-Your-Team-s-5-Most-Painful-Losses-(Games)
It needed updating.

[mvfcfan]

Sorry, but it was factually correct in 1993. You can’t change history pal.

Fighting Sioux was a cool nickname. I'm not sure why using American Indians as a mascot is offensive. You don't name a team after something unless you respect it and/or it has value in the area you are from. Like nobody calls their team the Platypusses.

[TheKingpin28]

Fighting Sioux was a cool nickname. I'm not sure why using American Indians as a mascot is offensive. You don't name a team after something unless you respect it and/or it has value in the area you are from. Like nobody calls their team the Platypusses.

Until Florida State is forced to change their name and to a lesser degree Notre Dame, they will always be the GFCC Fighting Sioux to me. Until a big piece of the puzzle is left off of the board, those who are not at the big boys table will take the blows for those who are at the table.

[Bisonator]

Fighting Sioux was a cool nickname. I'm not sure why using American Indians as a mascot is offensive. You don't name a team after something unless you respect it and/or it has value in the area you are from. Like nobody calls their team the Platypusses.
It's Platypi!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/65/a9/0c/65a90c7e45d44c7417a505689a4c74d0.jpg

[bulldog10jw]

It needed updating.

Certainly for Harvard which hadn't had very many bad losses in the Murphy era before 2019

[cx500d]

Fighting Sioux was a cool nickname. I'm not sure why using American Indians as a mascot is offensive. You don't name a team after something unless you respect it and/or it has value in the area you are from. Like nobody calls their team the Platypusses.


Agreed, stupidest rule ever. That said, the NCAA has determined they are racist.

[cx500d]

Until Florida State is forced to change their name and to a lesser degree Notre Dame, they will always be the GFCC Fighting Sioux to me. Until a big piece of the puzzle is left off of the board, those who are not at the big boys table will take the blows for those who are at the table.


and Illini, Utes, Chippewas, Aztecs, the Tribe et al

[Ivytalk]

Certainly for Harvard which hadn't had very many bad losses in the Murphy era before 2019
Harvard made up for it. Bigly.

And the future is not bright.