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AndrewFU21
June 13th, 2007, 09:24 PM
I figured this would be a fun thing to look at, especially in this long, slow summer.


Furman's most played opponents:

The Citadel: 86 games, 54-29-3 record, first game in 1913

Wofford: 80 games, 49-24-7 record, first game in 1889(first football game in SC)

Clemson: 54 games, 10-40-4 record, first game in 1896

Davidson: 54 games, 39-15 record, first game in 1906

Presbyterian: 50 games, 38-11-1, first game in 1913

South Carolina: 47 games, 20-26-1, first game in 1892


After that, we've played a handful of current/former SoCon members 30 or so times. It's a shame that, because of the ever-changing landscape of the conference, Furman doesn't have all that many long rivalries.

Jiggs
June 13th, 2007, 09:32 PM
Jacksonville State 21-21-2

Fresno St. Alum
June 13th, 2007, 09:37 PM
Lafayette and Lehigh have played eachother more than any other schools in football

813Jag
June 13th, 2007, 09:51 PM
Southern U. most played opponents.
Prairie View 73 games (50-21-2)
Texas Southern 60 games (39-17-4)
Alcorn St. 59 games (27-29-30)
Florida A&M 58 games (24-33-1)
Grambling 54 games (28-26)
UAPB 54 games (41-10-3)
Jackson State 51 games (27-24)

FargoBison
June 13th, 2007, 09:54 PM
UND, 45-62-3 first game in 1894
SDSU, 51-37-5 first game in 1904
South Dakota, 48-25-3 first game in 1900
Augustana College, 43-12-2 first game in 1946
UNI, 18-22 first game in 1933
Montana State, 12-21 first game in 1914
Northern Colorado, 22-8 first game in 1937
Nebraska-Omaha, 25-12-1 first game in 1938
Minn. State - Mankato, 26-6-0 first game in 1960

We have left some of these rivals behind(Augie, UNO, and MSU-Mankato), some will probably be regulars once again(UND and USD), one we have tried to restart playing again(Montana State), and one will once again be played yearly(UNI old NCC foe). Then there is SDSU who has been a forever regular and is also becoming a bigger rival. UNC was a big rival in our DII days and now I don't know what is going on with them in regards to scheduling NDSU.

Grizalltheway
June 13th, 2007, 10:03 PM
Montana State, 66-35-5 xthumbsupx

bostonspider
June 13th, 2007, 10:04 PM
Well Richmond's most played rival is the College of William and Mary, with a total of 116 games and a record of 52-59-5. Next up in Division I is VMI with 84 games and a record of 39-40-5. Finally is Virginia Tech with 51 games and a record of 10-37-4. UR has also played a couple of now DIII teams a good deal of times, with Randolph-Macon at 87 games, 57-23-7, and Hampden-Sydney at 59 games, 34-16-9. All are obviously in the state of Virginia.

MACHIAVELLI
June 13th, 2007, 10:17 PM
ICON's most played opponents.
Prairie View......62 games (44-14-1)
Alcorn St. ........55 games (37-17-1)
Jackson St........55 games (34-20-1)

ucdtim17
June 13th, 2007, 10:25 PM
46-20 vs. Chico State
41-15 vs. Humboldt State
38-16 vs. Sac State
33-17 vs. SF State
21-28 vs. Nevada

UNH_Alum_In_CT
June 13th, 2007, 10:37 PM
New Hampshire's:

Maine 94 games 44-42-8 started 1903
Rhode Island 81 games 49-27-5 started 1905
Connecticut 71 games 36-29-6 started 1906
Massachusetts 70 games 26-41-3 started 1897
Northeastern 53 games 39-13-1 started 1939
Springfield College 51 games 28-16-7 started 1911 ended 1979
Vermont 42 games 20-21-1 started 1899 ended 1974
Boston University 38 games 22-12-4 started 1920 ended 1997
Dartmouth 33 games 14-17-2 started 1901
Delaware 29 games 9-19-1 started 1953

FWIW, I would not have guessed that URI would be our second most played opponent. I figured that had to be UMass.

Go...gate
June 13th, 2007, 10:39 PM
In no particular order: Cornell, Brown, Lafayette, Yale, Princeton, Syracuse, Holy Cross, Army, Rutgers, Bucknell, Lehigh

rmutv
June 13th, 2007, 11:02 PM
Keep in mind that the Robert Morris Colonials football team is only entering its fourteenth year of existence:

13 games:
-Central Connecticut State (11-2) - most recent game was a 23-17 2OT thriller over the then #19 Blue Devils on 10/14/06
-St Francis PA (10-2-1) - most recent game was a 45-13 thrashing in Loretto by the Colonials on 9/30/06
-Wagner (9-4) - most recent game was a 14-10 squeaker of a win by RMU on Long Island on 10/7/06

grizband
June 13th, 2007, 11:04 PM
Montana State - 106 games
Idaho - 84
Idaho State - 49
Weber State - 45
Portland State - 34
Washington State - 34
Utah State - 34
Eastern Washington - 33
Northern Arizona - 32
Boise State - 25
Gonzaga - 24
Montana Tech - 19
North Dakota - 18
Washington - 18

LeopardFan04
June 13th, 2007, 11:47 PM
Lehigh, of course: (75-62-5)
Bucknell: (46-32-6)
Penn: (18-61-4)

poly51
June 14th, 2007, 12:14 AM
Cal Poly's Most Played Opponents:

Fresno State 41 10-29-2
Cal State Northridge 38 29-9
UC Santa Barbara 33 22-11
UC Davis 32 14-16-2
Sac State 30 15-15
San Francisco State 27 21-5-1
San Diego State 23 10-13

TheValleyRaider
June 14th, 2007, 12:28 AM
In no particular order: Cornell, Brown, Lafayette, Yale, Princeton, Syracuse, Holy Cross, Army, Rutgers, Bucknell, Lehigh

Since you brought it up...

Referencing cfbdatawarehouse.com, the Top 12 most-played opponents are:
89 Cornell 39-47-3 (last in 2006)
69 Holy Cross 28-36-5 (2006)
65 Syracuse 31-29-5 (1987)
56 Brown 28-21-7 (1996)
55 Bucknell 39-16 (2006)
50 Lafayette 36-10-4 (2006)
49 Princeton 22-26-1 (2006)
45 Lehigh 24-19-2 (2006)
42 Rutgers 15-27 (1993)
38 Yale 10-25-3 (2004)
29 Army 5-22-2 (1997)
29 Rochester 22-6-1 (1945)

Pegged the Top 11, sort of xthumbsupx
And we've only played Harvard 9 times in history (4-5 overall, last in 1999), and Penn 8 times (2-5-1, 1996) xeekx xeekx

The top-played list following them:
26 Columbia 21-4-1 (2002)
23 Boston U 14-8-1 (1994)
21 Dartmouth 15-5-1 (2006)
20 St. Lawrence 20-0 (1942)
19 Hamilton 12-6-1 (1927)
18 Fordham 15-3 (2006)
17 Hobart 17-0 (1928)

Go...gate
June 14th, 2007, 12:39 AM
Since you brought it up...

Referencing cfbdatawarehouse.com, the Top 12 most-played opponents are:
89 Cornell 39-47-3 (last in 2006)
69 Holy Cross 28-36-5 (2006)
65 Syracuse 31-29-5 (1987)
56 Brown 28-21-7 (1996)
55 Bucknell 39-16 (2006)
50 Lafayette 36-10-4 (2006)
49 Princeton 22-26-1 (2006)
45 Lehigh 24-19-2 (2006)
42 Rutgers 15-27 (1993)
38 Yale 10-25-3 (2004)
29 Army 5-22-2 (1997)
29 Rochester 22-6-1 (1945)

Pegged the Top 11, sort of xthumbsupx
And we've only played Harvard 9 times in history (4-5 overall, last in 1999), and Penn 8 times (2-5-1, 1996) xeekx xeekx

The top-played list following them:
26 Columbia 21-4-1 (2002)
23 Boston U 14-8-1 (1994)
21 Dartmouth 15-5-1 (2006)
20 St. Lawrence 20-0 (1942)
19 Hamilton 12-6-1 (1927)
18 Fordham 15-3 (2006)
17 Hobart 17-0 (1928)

I recall a statistic in 2003 that Colgate is the most-played opponent of the "Ivy Group" (present Ivy member schools pre-1956) and Ivy League (since 1956). I believe that remains the case.

Tod
June 14th, 2007, 12:41 AM
ICON's most played opponents.
Prairie View......62 games (44-14-1)
Alcorn St. ........55 games (37-17-1)
Jackson St........55 games (34-20-1)

What about Southern? ;) ;) ;)

Go...gate
June 14th, 2007, 12:43 AM
Since you brought it up...

Referencing cfbdatawarehouse.com, the Top 12 most-played opponents are:
89 Cornell 39-47-3 (last in 2006)
69 Holy Cross 28-36-5 (2006)
65 Syracuse 31-29-5 (1987)
56 Brown 28-21-7 (1996)
55 Bucknell 39-16 (2006)
50 Lafayette 36-10-4 (2006)
49 Princeton 22-26-1 (2006)
45 Lehigh 24-19-2 (2006)
42 Rutgers 15-27 (1993)
38 Yale 10-25-3 (2004)
29 Army 5-22-2 (1997)
29 Rochester 22-6-1 (1945)

Pegged the Top 11, sort of xthumbsupx
And we've only played Harvard 9 times in history (4-5 overall, last in 1999), and Penn 8 times (2-5-1, 1996) xeekx xeekx

The top-played list following them:
26 Columbia 21-4-1 (2002)
23 Boston U 14-8-1 (1994)
21 Dartmouth 15-5-1 (2006)
20 St. Lawrence 20-0 (1942)
19 Hamilton 12-6-1 (1927)
18 Fordham 15-3 (2006)
17 Hobart 17-0 (1928)

Upstate NY had a lot of really good FB in the 20's, 30's and 40's, including Hamilton, St. Lawrence, Hobart, Rochester, Buffalo and St. Bonaventure, and we all played each other, no matter how big or small a school. A very rich history.

Go...gate
June 14th, 2007, 12:46 AM
ICON's most played opponents.
Prairie View......62 games (44-14-1)
Alcorn St. ........55 games (37-17-1)
Jackson St........55 games (34-20-1)

How many times has Grambling played Morgan State (the old matchup in the Whitney Young Classic)?

TexasTerror
June 14th, 2007, 06:20 AM
SHSU...

Stephen F. Austin (TX) 46-33-2 (1923)
A&M Commerce 23-29-1 (1919)
A&M-Kingsville 24-30-0 (1928 )
Texas St-San Marcos 33-48-5 (1915)

813Jag
June 14th, 2007, 07:42 AM
What about Southern? ;) ;) ;)
54 games xnodx

Seahawks Fan
June 14th, 2007, 08:02 AM
38 Merchant Marine Academy 16-21-1

28 Hofstra 14-13-1

25 Susquehana 12-13

24 C W Post 7-17

24 Upsala 15-9

MACHIAVELLI
June 14th, 2007, 08:17 AM
How many times has Grambling played Morgan State (the old matchup in the Whitney Young Classic)?

17 (15-2 in favor of the ICON)

henfan
June 14th, 2007, 08:18 AM
Fun thread to read.

DELAWARE
1. West Chester- 48 (41-6-1)
2. Lehigh- 46 (29-17)
3. Widener- 42 (20-19-3)
4. Villanova- 40 (20-19-1)
5. Haverford- 38 (11-24-3)
6. Temple- 36 (22-14)
7T. Rutgers- 31 (13-15-3)
7T. William & Mary- 31 (19-12)
9. Bucknell- 33 (22-11)
10T. New Hampshire- 28 (19-9)
10T. Massachusetts- 28 (23-5)

DFW HOYA
June 14th, 2007, 08:28 AM
51 vs. Fordham (21-27-3)
29 vs. St. Peter's (25-4-0)
32 vs. Gallaudet (23-8-1)
26 vs. Catholic (17-9-0)

MplsBison
June 14th, 2007, 08:30 AM
UND, 45-62-3 first game in 1894
SDSU, 51-37-5 first game in 1904
South Dakota, 48-25-3 first game in 1900
Augustana College, 43-12-2 first game in 1946
UNI, 18-22 first game in 1933
Montana State, 12-21 first game in 1914
Northern Colorado, 22-8 first game in 1937
Nebraska-Omaha, 25-12-1 first game in 1938
Minn. State - Mankato, 26-6-0 first game in 1960

We have left some of these rivals behind(Augie, UNO, and MSU-Mankato), some will probably be regulars once again(UND and USD), one we have tried to restart playing again(Montana State), and one will once again be played yearly(UNI old NCC foe). Then there is SDSU who has been a forever regular and is also becoming a bigger rival. UNC was a big rival in our DII days and now I don't know what is going on with them in regards to scheduling NDSU.

I know it's no where near the list but NDSU and UC Davis have played alternating home and homes every year since 2002.

It'd be a damned shame to see that end after 07.

Both 08 and 09 are 12 game schedules, I think. We gotta find room for them!

lucchesicourt
June 14th, 2007, 10:35 AM
MPLSBISON,

I too hope we can keep this tivalry going. Our two programs have had mutual respect for each other throughout our D2 days, and I would hate to see an end to such competition. You will be surely missed as a conference foe, but I really don't see either of us avoiding the best the FCS has to offer. So, I guess we will be seeing quite often in the future whether as a scheduled or unscheduled (playoffs) opponent. Good luck Bison, but when we come there don't expect us to be an easy win. We have fared well there in the recent past.

MACHIAVELLI
June 14th, 2007, 10:55 AM
What about southern? ;) ;) ;)

What about them?

th0m
June 14th, 2007, 11:09 AM
JMU's FB program is still quite a young 'un (started in '72, DI in '80, A-10/CAA in '93), so here goes:

W&M: 29, 15-14
Richmond: 24, 11-13
Towson: 19, 13-5-1
Northeastern: 19, 11-8
Delaware: 16, 6-10

bison137
June 14th, 2007, 11:15 AM
Bucknell:

1. Lafayette - 83 games (32-46-6)

2. Lehigh - 70 games (29-38-3) note: this series was tied until 1998; LU has pulled well ahead since then.

3. Gettysburg - 64 games (43-19-2) G-burg was D1 for many decades - also ranks high on the LU and LC list of opponents.

Next four: Colgate, Cornell, Temple, and Penn State. (Record vs Penn State: 10-29-1)

At one time, BU, LC, LU, Gettysburg, Temple, and Delaware comprised the old MAC conference.

DetroitFlyer
June 14th, 2007, 11:33 AM
1. Xavier – Total of 53 games. 21 W 28 L 4 T
2. Miami, OH – Total of 42 games. 10 W 29 L 3 T
3. Cincinnati – Total of 33 games. 17 W 15 L 1 T
4. Butler – Total of 32 games. 23 W 8 L 1 T
5. John Caroll – Total of 26 games. 17 W 6 L 3 T
6. Louisville – Total of 25 games. 12 W 13 L
7. Toledo – Total of 23 games. 13 W 10 L
8. Drake – Total of 23 games. 19 W 4 L
9. Ohio – Total of 22 games. 8 W 14 L
10. Wilmington, OH – Total of 22 games. 16 W 5 L 1 T
11. Marshall – Total of 22 games. 16 W 6 L

GannonFan
June 14th, 2007, 11:36 AM
JMU's FB program is still quite a young 'un (started in '72, DI in '80, A-10/CAA in '93), so here goes:

W&M: 29, 15-14
Richmond: 24, 11-13
Towson: 19, 13-5-1
Northeastern: 19, 11-8
Delaware: 16, 6-10


And you guys were complaining about Towson being your slated rival in the last game of the year every year!!!! Since W&M and Richmond play each other that week, the A10 was apparently well-informed to make Towson your rival!!! xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

UncleSam
June 14th, 2007, 11:45 AM
Lehigh, of course: (75-62-5)
Bucknell: (46-32-6)
Penn: (18-61-4)

I suggest that you get Penn off the schedule.

Cobblestone
June 14th, 2007, 12:02 PM
New Hampshire's:


Rhode Island 81 games 49-27-5 started 1905


FWIW, I would not have guessed that URI would be our second most played opponent. I figured that had to be UMass.


Probably because you've gotten so used to beating us. xsmiley_wix

Our most played opponent would have to be Brown. I'm not quite sure how many times (too lazy to look it up) but I know we've played them ALMOST every year since 1909.

ngineer
June 14th, 2007, 12:17 PM
Lehigh's most played:

Lafayette--142 games
Bucknell--70 games
Delaware is around 50+ games
Princeton --49 games
Colgate--44 games

Golden Eagle
June 14th, 2007, 12:30 PM
1. Middle Tennessee State: 32-36-7 (1917)
2. Murray State: 39-32-1 (1930)
3. Eastern Kentucky: 17-46-0 xnonono2x (1937)
4. Western Kentucky: 23-28-1 (1922)
5. Morehead State: 31-19-1 (1936)
6. Austin Peay: 25-15-0 (1938)
7. UT Chattanooga: 10-28-0 (1938)
8. East Tennessee State: 15-17-0 (1930)
9. UT Martin: 15-8-0 (1970)
10. Samford: 10-11-0 (1934)

Looks like the 1930s were a pretty good decade for scheduling new opponents.

bison137
June 14th, 2007, 12:42 PM
Lehigh's most played:

Lafayette--142 games
Bucknell--70 games
Delaware is around 50+ games
Princeton --49 games
Colgate--44 games


Don't forget Gettysburg - 45 games with LU. 25-16-4 in favor of LU.

th0m
June 14th, 2007, 01:11 PM
And you guys were complaining about Towson being your slated rival in the last game of the year every year!!!! Since W&M and Richmond play each other that week, the A10 was apparently well-informed to make Towson your rival!!! xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

The last time we played Towson before they joined the then A-10 was '92 (they joined in '04). That combined with us not losing to them since they joined, can easily lead to the sentiment that it's not much of a 'rivalry'.

Mountaineer
June 14th, 2007, 01:14 PM
ASU:

Western Carolina (71) 52-18-1 (1932-present)
East Tenn State (47) 32-14-1 (1928-2003) :(
Lenoir Rhyne (45) 22-19-4 (1931-2007-first since 1982)
Catawba (39) 22-14-3 (1929-1989)
Furman (37) 13-21-3 (1971-present)
Citadel (35) 24-11 (1972-present)
Elon (35) 25-9-1 (1937-present)
Chattanooga (30) 20-10 (1977-present)
East Carolina (29) 19-10 (1932-1979)
Guilford (25) 21-4 (1936-1970)
VMI (25) 19-4-2 (1976-2002)
Wofford 14-9 (23) (1960-present)
Georgia Southern (22) 11-10-1 (1932-present)
Marshall (22) 14-8 (1977-2002)

henfan
June 14th, 2007, 01:19 PM
Lehigh's most played:

Lafayette--142 games
Bucknell--70 games
Delaware is around 50+ games
Princeton --49 games
Colgate--44 games

LU & UD have met 46 times. It's a crime that the two teams don't play almost EVERY year.

Go...gate
June 14th, 2007, 01:20 PM
Bucknell:

1. Lafayette - 83 games (32-46-6)

2. Lehigh - 70 games (29-38-3) note: this series was tied until 1998; LU has pulled well ahead since then.

3. Gettysburg - 64 games (43-19-2) G-burg was D1 for many decades - also ranks high on the LU and LC list of opponents.

Next four: Colgate, Cornell, Temple, and Penn State. (Record vs Penn State: 10-29-1)

At one time, BU, LC, LU, Gettysburg, Temple, and Delaware comprised the old MAC conference.


And would be the ideal addition to the Patriot League today.....:)

henfan
June 14th, 2007, 02:32 PM
3. Gettysburg - 64 games (43-19-2) G-burg was D1 for many decades - also ranks high on the LU and LC list of opponents.

Hasn't Gettysburg belonged to Division III since the inception of the divisions by the NCAA in 1973? Prior to that, Gettsyburg was part of the MAC with Delaware and others, which was recognized as part of the NCAA's Small College classification.

GannonFan
June 14th, 2007, 02:34 PM
LU & UD have met 46 times. It's a crime that the two teams don't play almost EVERY year.

I agree - Lehigh shouldn't have dropped us from the schedule - it would be a lot more. xthumbsupx

RichH2
June 14th, 2007, 02:37 PM
They have had a relatively successful run in III doubt they would move up. Even in the old MAC they were not consitently competitive altho I remember a couple of yrs ( 65-66 )where they had a very good QB beat LU altho back then we were terrible.

RabidRabbit
June 14th, 2007, 05:06 PM
Are those of the North Central Conference, which ends after 2007-2008 year.

Longest-
USeD Coyotes xlolx 47-50-7 104 Can bet we'll see them again when they count! xthumbsupx
NDSU Bison 37-51-5 93 Rivalry's always been there, just got emphasized with the move up together. xsmiley_wix
UND Sioux 33-45-5 83 Surprised that it's 10 less than Bison.
Morningside Maroons/Chiefs 57-18-4 = 79. I was surprised that Morningside is #4, and by a good margin over
Augustana (SD) Vikings 43-15-2 = 60 Bunnies' nearest rival, and NCC travel partner (BB)
UNI Panthers 16-22-2 = 40 Founding member of the NCC, and soon to be conference member again in Football :D
UNO Mavericks 21-13-1 =35 A late joiner of the NCC. Enjoyed games vs. UNO while at Omaha District USACE.
MN St. U (Mankota St.) Mavericks/Indians 15-19-0 = 34. Dropped football during 70s for 2 years, which led to
St. Cloud St. Huskies 25-8-0 = 33
UNC Bears 15-17-0 = 32 Remember them joining conference in 1980. Part of GWFC, but Sky'ed out. xnonono2x

SactoHornetFan
June 14th, 2007, 05:50 PM
We started our program in 1954:

ucdavis (1954) 16-38=54
Chico State (1954) 23-15-2=40
Humboldt St. (1954) 14-20-2=36
SF State (1954) 15-17-1=33
Cal Poly (1967) 15-15=30
CS Northridge (1964) 14-15=29
Nevada (1954) 9-17=26
Portland State (1965) 6-20=26

*Active programs

ngineer
June 14th, 2007, 11:17 PM
I agree - Lehigh shouldn't have dropped us from the schedule - it would be a lot more. xthumbsupx

I agree we should play more often..but the reason for the interruptions is that you guys won't visit Goodman....:(

ngineer
June 14th, 2007, 11:18 PM
They have had a relatively successful run in III doubt they would move up. Even in the old MAC they were not consitently competitive altho I remember a couple of yrs ( 65-66 )where they had a very good QB beat LU altho back then we were terrible.

Gettysburg certainly fits in well with PL from an academic standpoint. Their football was horrible in the mid-70s when we last played them--some of the games were embarrassing. They have done very well at the D-III level, and I'd be surprised if they'd be in a position to spend the additional dollars necessary to become competitive at the FCS level.

Tod
June 14th, 2007, 11:22 PM
What about them?

Seems you stopped reporting just before you got to them. Or, maybe you've played so many teams 54 times it's just not worth mentioning? xconfusedx ;)

Appstate29
June 14th, 2007, 11:24 PM
ASU:

Western Carolina (71) 52-18-1 (1932-present)


xasswhipx xasswhipx xasswhipx xasswhipx xasswhipx xasswhipx xasswhipx xpeacex

henfan
June 15th, 2007, 08:14 AM
I agree we should play more often..but the reason for the interruptions is that you guys won't visit Goodman....:(

That's got to change too, IMO. We'll see what happens when a new AD comes in at UDel.

MACHIAVELLI
June 15th, 2007, 08:24 AM
Seems you stopped reporting just before you got to them. Or, maybe you've played so many teams 54 times it's just not worth mentioning? xconfusedx ;)

I didn't know there was a certain amount I was supposed to list. I figured the first and second team on the list was enough. xrulesx

Ivytalk
June 15th, 2007, 08:40 AM
Yale 50-65-8 (123)
Dartmouth 60-45-5 (110)
Brown 76-28-2 (106)
Princeton 40-52-7 (99)
Penn 43-32-2 (77)
Cornell 37-32-2 (71)
Columbia 50-14-1 (65)
Holy Cross 37-21-2 (60)

GannonFan
June 15th, 2007, 08:51 AM
I agree we should play more often..but the reason for the interruptions is that you guys won't visit Goodman....:(


Well, next time don't break the rythym by opting out of a long term rivalry like you guys did in the late 80's when you were worried you couldn't compete anymore when you entered the Patriot League. Prior to that, we played almost every year (alternating home sites) going back well into the 60's and maybe even further. UD was content to continue the series as it was (playing every other year at Lehigh). And even when we played in the 90's it was basically a home and home affair - at UD in '93, '96, and '99 and at Goodman in '94 and '97. Unfortunately, it didn't try to get restarted like the past rivalry was until after UD started selling out every home game and now it's going to be hard to wean UD off of that cash cow that is the home gate. It wouldn't have got to that, though, if you guys didn't balk in the '80's and stop the rivalry. xthumbsupx

blukeys
June 15th, 2007, 09:53 AM
Fun thread to read.

DELAWARE
1. West Chester- 48 (41-6-1)
2. Lehigh- 46 (29-17)
3. Widener- 42 (20-19-3)
4. Villanova- 40 (20-19-1)
5. Haverford- 38 (11-24-3)
6. Temple- 36 (22-14)
7T. Rutgers- 31 (13-15-3)
7T. William & Mary- 31 (19-12)
9. Bucknell- 33 (22-11)
10T. New Hampshire- 28 (19-9)
10T. Massachusetts- 28 (23-5)

John shouldn't this read?

1. West Chester- 48 (41-6-1)
2. Lehigh- 46 (29-17)
3. Widener- 42 (20-19-3)
4. Villanova- 40 (20-19-1)
5. Haverford- 38 (11-24-3)
6. Temple- 36 (22-14)
7. Bucknell- 33 (22-11)
8T. Rutgers- 31 (13-15-3)
8T. William & Mary- 31 (19-12)
10T. New Hampshire- 28 (19-9)
10T. Massachusetts- 28 (23-5)

JoshUCA
June 15th, 2007, 11:09 AM
Arkansas Tech: 41-40-3 (in favor of UCA, 1911-2005)
Arkansas Monticello: 44-20-5 (1923-2005)
Henderson State: 43-38-3 (1919-2006)
Ouachita Baptist: 42-27-3 (1909-2005)
Southern Arkansas: 37-24-5 (1921-2005)

carney2
June 15th, 2007, 11:55 AM
[Gettysburg] would be the ideal addition to the Patriot League today.....:)

We've kicked this ball around a lot and this is the first time that I've heard Gettysburg mentioned. I'd be interested to hear your views as to why they would be the "ideal addition" to the PL.

Franks Tanks
June 15th, 2007, 12:09 PM
We've kicked this ball around a lot and this is the first time that I've heard Gettysburg mentioned. I'd be interested to hear your views as to why they would be the "ideal addition" to the PL.

They would be ideal in their location, tradition, size, and academic profile. But they seem comfortable in D-III and I doubt they have the motivation to make make to jump.

89Hen
June 15th, 2007, 12:18 PM
I agree - Lehigh shouldn't have dropped us from the schedule - it would be a lot more. xthumbsupx


I agree we should play more often..but the reason for the interruptions is that you guys won't visit Goodman....:(
Uh-oh, here we go... :p

My recollection wasn't that the Hens wouldn't come to Goodman, it's that we wanted the game in September and LU wanted it in Oct/Nov.

henfan
June 15th, 2007, 01:01 PM
John shouldn't this read?

1. West Chester- 48 (41-6-1)
2. Lehigh- 46 (29-17)
3. Widener- 42 (20-19-3)
4. Villanova- 40 (20-19-1)
5. Haverford- 38 (11-24-3)
6. Temple- 36 (22-14)
7. Bucknell- 33 (22-11)
8T. Rutgers- 31 (13-15-3)
8T. William & Mary- 31 (19-12)
10T. New Hampshire- 28 (19-9)
10T. Massachusetts- 28 (23-5)

It should and thanks for the correction, J.xoopsx

After this coming season, it's interesting to note that W&M will slide into 8th place and UNH into 10th place. UMass drops off the Top 10, at least temporarily.

For those of you who aren't familiar with these schools, Widener (f/k/a Pennesylvania Military College) currently competes in D-III and Haverford (PA) College discontinued its team in 1972. They were old time rivals of UD. West Chester (PA) University is a D-II team.

UncleSam
June 15th, 2007, 01:08 PM
Wow, West Chester has more wins vs Delaware than UMass has vs the Hens.

CrusaderBob
June 15th, 2007, 01:46 PM
Holy Cross. Twenty years since their last game and BC is still the most played by a wide margin!

Boston College: 82 (31-48-3)
Dartmouth: 70 (32-34-4)
Colgate: 69 (36-28-5)
Harvard: 60 (21-37-2)
Brown: 52 (29-20-3)
Massachusetts: 46 (21-20-5)
Fordham: 44 (23-19-2)
Boston U: 39 (23-11-5)
Yale: 29 (4-25-0)
Connecticut: 28 (19-8-1)
Syracuse: 28 (5-23-0)
Army: 24 (6-17-1)

dennisdent
June 15th, 2007, 02:17 PM
UNH: 41-25-3
URI: 45-34-2
uCON: 36-33-2
Maine: 39-13-1
Northeastern: 27-8-1
WPI: 32-16-1
BU: 26-17
Amherst: 9-40-5 (And I thought the record was bad against UD)

PantherRob82
June 15th, 2007, 02:23 PM
For UNI I would guess a Gateway school or one of the Dakotas. Don't have the reources to check right now.

dennisdent
June 15th, 2007, 02:29 PM
For UNI I would guess a Gateway school or one of the Dakotas. Don't have the reources to check right now.

Just in case you haven't seen this yet.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa_team_index.php

Go...gate
June 15th, 2007, 05:05 PM
They would be ideal in their location, tradition, size, and academic profile. But they seem comfortable in D-III and I doubt they have the motivation to make make to jump.

You said it well, Franks Tanks. If we could only convince Gettysburg somehow, they would be ideal. But it does not seem like the PL wants reach out to other potential members.

Mountain Panther
June 15th, 2007, 05:43 PM
For UNI I would guess a Gateway school or one of the Dakotas. Don't have the reources to check right now.

Morningside?

PantherRob82
June 15th, 2007, 05:45 PM
Just in case you haven't seen this yet.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa_team_index.php

thanks, sometimes I don't have the time to read full threads. xbawlingx

PantherRob82
June 15th, 2007, 05:48 PM
Morningside?

yup, but unless we play them again, SDSU takes over in 2014

Maroon&White
June 15th, 2007, 09:18 PM
UNH: 41-25-3
URI: 45-34-2
uCON: 36-33-2
Maine: 39-13-1
Northeastern: 27-8-1
WPI: 32-16-1
BU: 26-17
Amherst: 9-40-5 (And I thought the record was bad against UD)

UMass:

1 - URI: 81 (45-34-2)
2 - UCon: 71 (36-33-2)
3 - UNH: 69 (41-25-3)
4 - Amherst: 57 (11-40-6)
5 - Maine: 53 (39-13-1)
6t- WPI: 49 (32-16-1)
6t- Tufts: 49 (14-28-7)
8 - Holy Cross: 46 (20-21-5)
9 - BU: 43 (26-17)
10 - Springfield: 40 (9-25-6)

dennisdent
June 15th, 2007, 09:29 PM
UMass:

1 - URI: 81 (45-34-2)
2 - UCon: 71 (36-33-2)
3 - UNH: 69 (41-25-3)
4 - Amherst: 57 (11-40-6)
5 - Maine: 53 (39-13-1)
6t- WPI: 49 (32-16-1)
6t- Tufts: 49 (14-28-7)
8 - Holy Cross: 46 (20-21-5)
9 - BU: 43 (26-17)
10 - Springfield: 40 (9-25-6)

There you go again--xlolx

Maroon&White
June 15th, 2007, 09:59 PM
There you go again--xlolx


What are you talking about?xconfusedx xconfusedx

catamount man
June 15th, 2007, 10:11 PM
As my "beloved";) App brothers have posted, we have played them 71 times beginning in 1932. We also have played ETSU since 1932 until their demise in 2003. We lead that series 23-21-1.

Among all active teams, Mars Hill started playing WCU the earliest, 1931. We lead that series 11-5-1.

GO CATAMOUNTS!!!

Franks Tanks
June 15th, 2007, 10:13 PM
You said it well, Franks Tanks. If we could only convince Gettysburg somehow, they would be ideal. But it does not seem like the PL wants reach out to other potential members.

So true, Getysburg really has all the qualities the PL covets. They are a liberal arts school of about 2,500 students, academics very similar to Pl schools, have tradition in both athletics and academics, and could be a very attractive choise for FCS student athletes. I guess we can only dream though and settle for MArist or Bryant.

dennisdent
June 16th, 2007, 06:14 AM
What are you talking about?xconfusedx xconfusedx

Quit stalking me;) :

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23599&highlight=umass+play+uconn

blukeys
June 16th, 2007, 09:03 AM
Wow, West Chester has more wins vs Delaware than UMass has vs the Hens.
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bulldog10jw
June 16th, 2007, 12:43 PM
Princeton - 129 times (70-49-10)

Harvard - 123 times (64-50-9)

Brown - 111 times (75-31-5)

dbackjon
June 16th, 2007, 01:03 PM
For NAU - teams we have played at least 20 times:

Idaho St 26 17 1 44
Weber State 21 22 43
Montana St 21 20 41
Montana 11 29 40
Arizona State 14 18 4 36
New Mexico 3 24 27
Boise State 6 19 25
New Mexico State 7 17 1 25
EWU 10 14 24
NM Highlands 16 4 2 22
Western New Mexico 14 6 1 21
Idaho 4 16 20


Bolded teams are on this season's schedule. NAU used to be in conferences with the New Mexico schools.

Boise and Idaho were in the Big Sky.
Other teams on this year's schedule:

Arizona 1-8
App St - first meeting
Portland St 10-4
Sac St 8-4
Northern Colorado 5-2

gophoenix
June 16th, 2007, 02:56 PM
Elon's top played opponents:

Lenoir-Rhyne (69): 38-30-1 - since 1921
Guilford (60): 41-16-3 - since 1919
Newberry (50): 35-14-1
Presbyterian (42): 22-18-2
App St (35): 9-24-1 since 1937
Western Carolina (34): 18-16 since 1933
Carson-Newman (34): 16-19
Wofford (30): 9-21 - since 1921
Gardner-Webb (29): 20-9
Mars Hill (24): 17-7
East Carolina (18): 9-9

Demon Fan
June 16th, 2007, 04:14 PM
NORTHWESTERN STATE'S MOST OFTEN PLAYED OPPONENTS:

Universtiy of Louisiana - Lafayette 75
Stephen F. Austin 63
McNeese State 56
Southeastern Louisiana 50

This 2007 season marks NSU's 100th year of football

skinny_uncle
June 16th, 2007, 04:22 PM
SIU

SEMO 74 games (30-36-8)
Illinois State 69 games (34-32-3)\
Eastern Illinois 63 games (36-26-1)

Frosty The Snowbuff
June 16th, 2007, 05:35 PM
NORTHWESTERN STATE'S MOST OFTEN PLAYED OPPONENTS:

Universtiy of Louisiana - Lafayette 75
Stephen F. Austin 63
McNeese State 56
Southeastern Louisiana 50

This 2007 season marks NSU's 100th year of football

You forgot Louisiana Tech -- 77 times

Even if we only won 19 of those xrolleyesx

Demon Fan
June 16th, 2007, 06:14 PM
You forgot Louisiana Tech -- 77 times

Even if we only won 19 of those xrolleyesx

Thanks Frosty. Don't know how I missed that one!

Pard4Life
June 16th, 2007, 08:06 PM
1. Lehigh
2. Rutgers
3. Penn (?)
4. probably Bucknell

Frosty The Snowbuff
June 16th, 2007, 11:27 PM
Thanks Frosty. Don't know how I missed that one!

Going 19-53-5 against them makes me wish I DID forget xbawlingx xbawlingx xbawlingx

PantherRob82
June 17th, 2007, 06:50 AM
Going 19-53-5 against them makes me wish I DID forget xbawlingx xbawlingx xbawlingx


xlolx xlolx xlolx

Engineer91
June 18th, 2007, 07:54 AM
Lehigh's most played:

Lafayette--142 games
Bucknell--70 games
Delaware is around 50+ games
Princeton --49 games
Colgate--44 games


You forgot Rutgers and Penn

Lafayette 142 62-75-5
Rutgers 74 30-43-1
Bucknell 70 38-29-3
Pennsylvania 57 13-44-0
Princeton 50 11-37-2
Delaware 46 17-29-0
Colgate 45 19-24-2
Gettysburg 45 25-16-4
Muhlenberg 42 28-13-1

everyone else less than 25

g-webb1994
June 18th, 2007, 09:51 AM
Elon's top played opponents:
Gardner-Webb (29): 20-9

Had to bring that up...didn't you??xbangx

I am kind of disappointed that we don't play more often, in any sport, since it was a decent rivarly back in the SAC days.....:(

andy7171
June 18th, 2007, 12:39 PM
Towson vs...

Morgan State 14-5
James Madison 5-13
Bucknell 8-8
Delaware State 9-6
Liberty 5-6

Go...gate
June 18th, 2007, 02:03 PM
1. Lehigh
2. Rutgers
3. Penn (?)
4. probably Bucknell

You have played Princeton pretty often, too.

ngineer
June 18th, 2007, 09:12 PM
You said it well, Franks Tanks. If we could only convince Gettysburg somehow, they would be ideal. But it does not seem like the PL wants reach out to other potential members.

I don't see Gettysburg wanting to spend the money necessary to make the jump to FCS from their D-III position. They made a concerted decision back in the 1970's to go this route, and I don't see any inclination to return.

HIU 93
June 18th, 2007, 10:37 PM
Virginia Union, Virginia State, Norfolk State

The Sheriff
June 20th, 2007, 09:05 PM
For the North Dakota Fighting Sioux:

North Dakota State 62-45-3
South Dakota 56-28-5
South Dakota State 46-32-5
Morningside 52-11-3
Augustana 44-16-1
Nebraska-Omaha 19-16
Minnesota St. 23-7
St. Cloud St. 25-4

Some other FCS Opponents:
Montana 7-10-1
Montana State 13-15-1
Northern Iowa 13-25
Youngstown St. 2-0
Portland St. 1-0

TheBisonator
June 20th, 2007, 09:17 PM
For the North Dakota Fighting Sioux:

North Dakota State 62-45-3
South Dakota 56-28-5
South Dakota State 46-32-5
Morningside 52-11-3
Augustana 44-16-1
Nebraska-Omaha 19-16
Minnesota St. 23-7
St. Cloud St. 25-4

Some other FCS Opponents:
Montana 7-10-1
Montana State 13-15-1
Northern Iowa 13-25
Youngstown St. 2-0
Portland St. 1-0

I wish Morningside would have left the NCC much earlier. They did not belong in the conference at all. Teams like the 4 Dakota schools did not deserve to play that school in football every year, let alone on the road every other year in that hole of a stadium they played in. It was a tiny private school of 1,000 students. It had no business being in the NCC all those decades.

Franks Tanks
June 20th, 2007, 10:23 PM
You have played Princeton pretty often, too.

Yes, we have played Bucknell the 2nd most out of anyone behind Lehigh of course, but we still played Rutgers a whopping 72 times. Which is a ton considering we havent played in about 30 years, and our record vs. them is an acceptable 30-41-1. What is not acceptable is our records against Penn and Princeton. We are 18-61-4 againt Penn and a ridokolous 4-36-3 against Princeton. Wow, at least I can say I was a part of one of the 4 Princeton wins.

Tribe4SF
June 21st, 2007, 06:51 AM
For W&M...

Richmond 59-52-5 (The South's oldest rivalry)
VMI 49-33-2
Virginia Tech 18-39-4 (To be renewed this year.)

BisonBacker
June 21st, 2007, 07:04 AM
For the North Dakota Fighting Sioux:

North Dakota State 62-45-3
South Dakota 56-28-5
South Dakota State 46-32-5
Morningside 52-11-3
Augustana 44-16-1
Nebraska-Omaha 19-16
Minnesota St. 23-7
St. Cloud St. 25-4

Some other FCS Opponents:
Montana 7-10-1
Montana State 13-15-1
Northern Iowa 13-25
Youngstown St. 2-0
Portland St. 1-0


Your signature line is funny, playing that schedule you won't be earning any respect from people on this board until you start playing a full DI slate. I think you meant to post that on the DII boards xlolx

GeauxLions94
June 21st, 2007, 12:35 PM
Southeastern Louisiana's Most Common Opponents
and this includes the 18 years we didn't have a team, otherwise Northwestern State, McNeese State and Nicholls State would be significantly greater

Northwestern State - 50
Louisiana-Monroe - 46
Louisiana-Lafayette - 38
Louisiana Tech - 36
McNeese State - 32
Southern Miss - 21
Troy - 19
Nicholls State - 16

The Sheriff
June 21st, 2007, 06:30 PM
Your signature line is funny, playing that schedule you won't be earning any respect from people on this board until you start playing a full DI slate. I think you meant to post that on the DII boards xlolx

My sig line is what it is. I'm not coming in demanding respect, I will let the team's play (hopefully it does) do it. Just like what NDSU has done. (and that's a credit to you)

Don't you think that a team should come in and prove to themselves and others that they belong, rather than just coming in and expecting everybody to bow down in front of them. I think the Bison did a great job proving themselves, why can't anyone else?

The schedule will come. NDSU and SDSU went through the scheduling pains too. Bottom line, you have to take care of business whoever is on your schedule.

Now back to the topic at hand...

The Sheriff
June 21st, 2007, 06:34 PM
I wish Morningside would have left the NCC much earlier. They did not belong in the conference at all. Teams like the 4 Dakota schools did not deserve to play that school in football every year, let alone on the road every other year in that hole of a stadium they played in. It was a tiny private school of 1,000 students. It had no business being in the NCC all those decades.

Agreed. Alot of people thought that Augie and Morningside were in the same boat. That is not the case. Augie was (and still is) a team that offers fits when you least expect them to. They have developed themselves into a solid DII athletic program.

I wonder why Northern Iowa and Morningside haven't developed a nice regional rivalry... (note sarcasm).

dbackjon
June 22nd, 2007, 12:53 AM
For the North Dakota Fighting Sioux:

North Dakota State 62-45-3
South Dakota 56-28-5
South Dakota State 46-32-5
Morningside 52-11-3
Augustana 44-16-1
Nebraska-Omaha 19-16
Minnesota St. 23-7
St. Cloud St. 25-4

Some other FCS Opponents:
Montana 7-10-1
Montana State 13-15-1
Northern Iowa 13-25
Youngstown St. 2-0
Portland St. 1-0


Aww = you left out our 0=2 record versus NAU :D

JoltinJoe
June 22nd, 2007, 07:56 AM
In order, Fordham's most played opponents:

(1) Georgetown (51) ; (2) Holy Cross (44); (3) NYU (39); (4) Boston College & Seton Hall (27).

The Sheriff
June 22nd, 2007, 07:29 PM
Aww = you left out our 0=2 record versus NAU :D

I did. Sorry, I failed to give credit where credit is due. Hopefully that series record is not set in stone between these two squads...

PantherRob82
June 23rd, 2007, 10:10 AM
For the North Dakota Fighting Sioux:


Northern Iowa 13-25


I didn't know our series was that one sided.

UAalum72
June 23rd, 2007, 07:15 PM
Since becoming a varsity team in 1973, Albany's most frequent opponents were Norwich (14-6), Ithaca (5-14) and Brockport (14-4).

Against current FCS teams, it's Hofstra (2-10) and Stony Brook (9-3).

Against current FBS teams, Albany is 7-4 vs. Buffalo, 1-0 vs. Central Florida, 0-1 vs. FAU and FIU.

The Cats
June 24th, 2007, 12:32 PM
Western Carolina (71) 52-18-1 (1932-present)



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ch0306
July 21st, 2007, 09:14 PM
True, but only by virtue of the fact that Lafayette and Lehigh played each other multiple times in the same season during the 19th century. But no two teams have played each other in more seasons than Yale and Princeton, a series interrupted only by war since Grant was in the White House.

hvsader
July 22nd, 2007, 11:25 AM
Holy Cross:

Boston College - 82 games
Dartmouth - 69
Colgate - 68
Harvard - 59
...
Umass - 46 1st game 1897, last game 1996, next game Sept 1

Sam Adams
July 22nd, 2007, 12:26 PM
Massachusetts has been playing football since 1879.

Our most played opponent is Rhode Island. Series began in 1903. 81 games 45-34-2. Most recent game was 10/21/06 (41-16).

Second is Connecticut. Series began in 1897. 71 games. 36-33-2. Most recent game was 11/20/99 Connecticut's final A10 game (UMASS 62 ukon 20)xlolx sadly Connecticut has been ducking Massachusetts ever since. Supposedly we'll play again in 2011. Don't hold your breath. xlolx

Third is New Hampshire. Series began 1897. 69 games. 41-25-3. Most recent game was that great playoff game on 12/02/06 (24-17).

Fourth is Amherst College. Series began in 1897. 57 games. 11-40-6:( . Most recent Game was 11/10/45 (6-6).

Fifth is Maine. Series began in 1909. 53 games. 38-13-1 Most recent game was 11//10/06 an ugly 10-9 win for the Minutemen.

JMU Duke Dog
July 23rd, 2007, 02:34 PM
Opponents that JMU has played the most since football started in 1974.

William & Mary - 29
Richmond - 24
Northeastern - 19
Towson - 19
Delaware - 16
Appalachian State - 14
Liberty - 14
Villanova - 14
Massachusetts - 12
Maine - 11
New Hampshire - 11
Shippensburg (Div. II) - 11
VMI - 11