Dixie St going FCS ... very impressive football scheduling

[Redbird 4th & short]

Dixie St is in St George, UT, has 11,200 students .. affiliated with Church of Latter Day Saints. They went 8-3 in D-II last year, though Massey wasn't too impressed and ranked them #50. They play in the Rocky Mountain conference whose best football teams are CSU Pueblo and Colorado Mines.

They will go D-I in all sports this summer and participate in WAC, which apparently does not do football .. so football will be independent for now. What is most impressive is their scheduling ... reportedly, they have somehow gotten home & home deals with my ISUr, SDSU, USD, Weber St, Mont St, Sac St ... so they got 5 top 10 level playoff teams, including 4 of the final 8 teams from this years playoffs to do a home & home over then next 3-4 years. Reportedly ISUr got 2 home games to their 1 home game, but I haven't confirmed yet. They also got their "big brother", BYU, to give them an FBS buy game in 2022.

With 4 pages of threads on New Haven, I thought Dixie St deserved some attention. i am curious to know how they were able to convince 6 quality FCS programs, all from the 2 top conferences, to schedule all these h&h games. I'm guessing there had to be some incentive they offered to secure these in advance.

[TennBison]

Dixie St is in St George, UT, has 11,200 students .. affiliated with Church of Latter Day Saints. They went 8-3 in D-II last year, though Massey wasn't too impressed and ranked them #50. They play in the Rocky Mountain conference whose best football teams are CSU Pueblo and Colorado Mines.

They will go D-I in all sports this summer and participate in WAC, which apparently does not do football .. so football will be independent for now. What is most impressive is their scheduling ... reportedly, they have somehow gotten home & home deals with my ISUr, SDSU, USD, Weber St, Mont St, Sac St ... so they got 5 top 10 level playoff teams, including 4 of the final 8 teams from this years playoffs to do a home & home over then next 3-4 years. Reportedly ISUr got 2 home games to their 1 home game, but I haven't confirmed yet. They also got their "big brother", BYU, to give them an FBS buy game in 2022.

With 4 pages of threads on New Haven, I thought Dixie St deserved some attention. i am curious to know how they were able to convince 6 quality FCS programs, all from the 2 top conferences, to schedule all these h&h games. I'm guessing there had to be some incentive they offered to secure these in advance.
​Free Arby's for the visiting team when they go to St George.

[cx500d]

Dixie St is in St George, UT, has 11,200 students .. affiliated with Church of Latter Day Saints. They went 8-3 in D-II last year, though Massey wasn't too impressed and ranked them #50. They play in the Rocky Mountain conference whose best football teams are CSU Pueblo and Colorado Mines.

They will go D-I in all sports this summer and participate in WAC, which apparently does not do football .. so football will be independent for now. What is most impressive is their scheduling ... reportedly, they have somehow gotten home & home deals with my ISUr, SDSU, USD, Weber St, Mont St, Sac St ... so they got 5 top 10 level playoff teams, including 4 of the final 8 teams from this years playoffs to do a home & home over then next 3-4 years. Reportedly ISUr got 2 home games to their 1 home game, but I haven't confirmed yet. They also got their "big brother", BYU, to give them an FBS buy game in 2022.

With 4 pages of threads on New Haven, I thought Dixie St deserved some attention. i am curious to know how they were able to convince 6 quality FCS programs, all from the 2 top conferences, to schedule all these h&h games. I'm guessing there had to be some incentive they offered to secure these in advance.

I don't think they've been associated with LDS for many years....It's a state school.

[Laker]

I've been there- nice city of 87,000 near Zion National Park (which is a beautiful place) and about a couple of hours from Vegas. It was founded by the LDS but is now a state run university. They were a junior college not long ago- I think they changed to a four year school around 2006. They changed their nickname from Rebels to Red Storm to Trailblazers and for some reason have a bison as a mascot.

[ngineer]

What's their nickname, the "Cups"? xsmiley_wix The original "Dixie cup" plant was located in Easton, Pa., about a mile from my house. Long since abandoned for a newer facility out in the 'burbs, the old huge building is quite visible from US Route 22 and was a landmark for many motorists, especially truckers, determining their exit, as a huge "Dixie cup" (functionally a water tower) sets atop the building. Very distinctive.

[Daytripper]

Dixie St is in St George, UT, has 11,200 students .. affiliated with Church of Latter Day Saints. They went 8-3 in D-II last year, though Massey wasn't too impressed and ranked them #50. They play in the Rocky Mountain conference whose best football teams are CSU Pueblo and Colorado Mines.

They will go D-I in all sports this summer and participate in WAC, which apparently does not do football .. so football will be independent for now. What is most impressive is their scheduling ... reportedly, they have somehow gotten home & home deals with my ISUr, SDSU, USD, Weber St, Mont St, Sac St ... so they got 5 top 10 level playoff teams, including 4 of the final 8 teams from this years playoffs to do a home & home over then next 3-4 years. Reportedly ISUr got 2 home games to their 1 home game, but I haven't confirmed yet. They also got their "big brother", BYU, to give them an FBS buy game in 2022.

With 4 pages of threads on New Haven, I thought Dixie St deserved some attention. i am curious to know how they were able to convince 6 quality FCS programs, all from the 2 top conferences, to schedule all these h&h games. I'm guessing there had to be some incentive they offered to secure these in advance.

Sam Houston and Dixie State also have a home and home in 2021 and 2022.

[Mattymc727]

How is Dixie State not in...The land of Dixie????

Utah????

[Laker]

How is Dixie State not in...The land of Dixie????

Utah????

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_(Utah)

[Redbird 4th & short]

Sam Houston and Dixie State also have a home and home in 2021 and 2022.

Missed this one, thanks.

This is what interests me most .. how did they make all these h&h's happen. What leverage did they have to get these top tier programs to agree to return a game at their place, for what should be a patsy game. It's not like when all the teams that formed Great West and the Dakota's joined MVFC .. they could fill their schedules immediately with h&h games. These guys are independent for football for now.

As for ISUr, we're all wondering why we have to travel (i.e. fly) to Utah for what should be a patsy game ... especially since wwe already do a h&h with rival OOC EIU. The fact that they did this with 7 teams now (incl SHSU) just seems amazing. What did they do to get all these top 10 level programs to agree to h&h ? I wonder if they agreed to pay for everyone's travel or something like that. ISUr has not disclosed terms of the deal and I assume it might be confidential.

Does this seem unusual to anyone else ?

[Redbird 4th & short]

​Free Arby's for the visiting team when they go to St George.

This might do it for a bus ride, but probably not for a flight ....

xthumbsupx

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[ST_Lawson]

I wonder if they agreed to pay for everyone's travel or something like that. ISUr has not disclosed terms of the deal and I assume it might be confidential.

Does this seem unusual to anyone else ?

That would be my guess. They must be covering costs going both ways. Either that or their AD has blackmail material on all the other schools.

[Baron Sardonicus]

Let's not forget Dixie's new best friend, Tarleton State...

Augustana probably wants to make it The Three Amigos, but they need an invitation from a D-I all-sports conference. We'll soon find out if that's going to happen. As for football, I'm guessing Augie would choose independent (scholarship) status over the PFL. What say you, Laker?

[Laker]

Let's not forget Dixie's new best friend, Tarleton State...

Augustana probably wants to make it The Three Amigos, but they need an invitation from a D-I all-sports conference. We'll soon find out if that's going to happen. As for football, I'm guessing Augie would choose independent (scholarship) status over the PFL. What say you, Laker?

Oddly, all the talk here has been about St Thomas probably getting the go ahead for D1. They have been officially invited to the Summit and Augie hasn't (although everyone knows that there is something under the table.) From what I have heard- both of them would probably go Pioneer. Augie has around 2000 students so I doubt if they have the dough to go FCS scholarship- even Sanford Health doesn't want to put in that much more money.

Augie has no lights for Kirkeby-Owen, which is a beautiful stadium. Traditionally they have been much more of a basketball school than football. They have won D2 titles recently in men's basketball, baseball and softball, and have a long tradition of good cross country and track. But they are still going to be #3 behind USD and SDSU.

MSU beat Tarleton in the famous Snow Game with the 12 minute drive in the quarterfinals two years ago. I'm wondering what the long range goals are for them and Dixie. Now, you could get Northern Arizona and Southern Utah for football but that still isn't enough to start WAC football at this point.

[Baron Sardonicus]

Augustana has the dough for the 30-some football scholarships they already have -- enough to tread water awhile in FCS.

You make a good point on their enrollment...likely have to get that number up if they want to have a fully funded football team.

On the other hand, Augie has the ubiquitous "Presidential (academic) Scholarship." I'm sure the PFL would welcome them if they can move up.

[PAllen]

What's their nickname, the "Cups"? xsmiley_wix The original "Dixie cup" plant was located in Easton, Pa., about a mile from my house. Long since abandoned for a newer facility out in the 'burbs, the old huge building is quite visible from US Route 22 and was a landmark for many motorists, especially truckers, determining their exit, as a huge "Dixie cup" (functionally a water tower) sets atop the building. Very distinctive.

Don't forget The Cup in Bethlehem. An ice cream shop where they used to serve little sundaes in dixie cups.

[Laker]

Augustana has the dough for the 30-some football scholarships they already have -- enough to tread water awhile in FCS.

You make a good point on their enrollment...likely have to get that number up if they want to have a fully funded football team.

On the other hand, Augie has the ubiquitous "Presidential (academic) Scholarship." I'm sure the PFL would welcome them if they can move up.

I think that the Pioneer would love to have them and UST. Jacksonville just dropped football. Close trip for Drake, not bad for Valpo. All the members but Morehead State are private schools, so they would fit right in.

If there was a Summit football league- no doubt both could join that.

[dbackjon]

Missed this one, thanks.

This is what interests me most .. how did they make all these h&h's happen. What leverage did they have to get these top tier programs to agree to return a game at their place, for what should be a patsy game. It's not like when all the teams that formed Great West and the Dakota's joined MVFC .. they could fill their schedules immediately with h&h games. These guys are independent for football for now.

As for ISUr, we're all wondering why we have to travel (i.e. fly) to Utah for what should be a patsy game ... especially since wwe already do a h&h with rival OOC EIU. The fact that they did this with 7 teams now (incl SHSU) just seems amazing. What did they do to get all these top 10 level programs to agree to h&h ? I wonder if they agreed to pay for everyone's travel or something like that. ISUr has not disclosed terms of the deal and I assume it might be confidential.

Does this seem unusual to anyone else ?

It is tough to get home games, especially out west. Really no reason NOT to do home and home exchanges when you can get someone to come out one year. ISUr just finished a home and home with NAU, not really much difference in travel.

OOC FCS teams are scarce in the West. NAU signed a six game home and home with DSU - it is great to have a driveable OOC game.

[citdog]

Tarleton St will be giving 63 scholarships in year 1 of FCS.

[Redbird 4th & short]

It is tough to get home games, especially out west. Really no reason NOT to do home and home exchanges when you can get someone to come out one year. ISUr just finished a home and home with NAU, not really much difference in travel.

OOC FCS teams are scarce in the West. NAU signed a six game home and home with DSU - it is great to have a driveable OOC game.
Correct on our NAU h&h .. except that was part of our Big Sky challenge and UNA is an established FCS program from a very good conference.

I think there were $ incentives.

[Original_Siouxperfan]

Sam Houston and Dixie State also have a home and home in 2021 and 2022.

You missed another one:


UND and Dixie State also have a home and home in 2022 and 2024.

As a Utah resident I'm looking forward to the 2024 game; the move to the MVFC will decrease my yearly attendance from 3 games per year to 1.

[Laker]

I know that Dixie plays at SDSU Nov. 14th, and at SDSU and USD next year. In 2022 they play at UNI and UND.

[wapiti]

I am not 100 percent sure, but I think the home and home with MSU is 2 games in Bozeman and 1 game at Dixie.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Looks like I missed another ..so dug a little more, here's their published schedules: https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/dixie-state/

This confirms, ISUr got 2 home games before giving them a home game .. which now makes a little more sense to me. I assume other teams got similar deals given all the FCS road games.

Got to assume they're going to really struggle for a few years with all these tough FCS road games. But they sure aren't loading up on cupcakes by any means, and are clearly trying to cut the D-II chord quickly .. goimng from 4 games in 2020, to 2 games in 2021, to just 1 D-II game (so far) in 2022, and none (so far) in 2023.

2020 .. 11 games, 7 FCS games, 6 of 7 on road



09/05 - at Southern Utah (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/southern-utah/)
09/12 - South Dakota Mines (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/south-dakota-mines/)
09/19 - at Montana State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/montana-state/)
09/26 - Drake (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/drake/)
10/03 - at Sacramento State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/sacramento-state/)
10/10 - at Weber State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/weber-state/)
10/17 - at South Dakota (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/south-dakota/)
10/24 - Azusa Pacific (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/azusa-pacific/)
11/07 - Western Colorado (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/western-colorado/)
11/21 - at Illinois State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/illinois-state/)
11/28 - at Tarleton State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/tarleton-state/)


2021 .. 11 games, 8 FCS games, 5 of 8 on road, 1 very weak FBS



09/04 - Sacramento State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/sacramento-state/)
09/11 - Weber State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/weber-state/)
09/18 - at UC Davis (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/uc-davis/)
09/25 - at Montana (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/montana/)
10/02 - at South Dakota State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/south-dakota-state/)
10/16 - at New Mexico State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/new-mexico-state/)
10/23 - Azusa Pacific (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/azusa-pacific/)
10/30 - at North Alabama (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/north-alabama/)
11/06 - at Sam Houston State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/sam-houston-state/)
11/13 - Fort Lewis (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/fort-lewis/)
11/20 - Missouri State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/missouri-state/)

2022 ... 8 total games so far, 6 FCS, 5 of 6 on road, 1 good FBS, just 1 D-II this year so fatr



09/03 - at Southern Utah (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/southern-utah/)
09/10 - Chadron State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/chadron-state/)
09/17 - at Weber State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/weber-state/)
10/15 - at Northern Iowa (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/northern-iowa/)
10/29 - at North Dakota (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/north-dakota/)
11/05 - Sam Houston State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/sam-houston-state/)
11/12 - at Idaho State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/idaho-state/)
11/19 - at BYU (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/byu/)

2023 ... 9 total games so far, 8 FCS, 6 of 8 on road, 1 weak FBS



09/02 - at Montana State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/montana-state/)
09/09 - Montana (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/montana/)
09/16 - at Northern Arizona (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/northern-arizona/)
09/23 - at Missouri State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/missouri-state/)
09/30 - at Colorado State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/colorado-state/)
10/07 - North Alabama (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/north-alabama/)
10/21 - at Idaho (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/idaho/)
11/04 - at Sam Houston State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/sam-houston-state/)
11/18 - at Illinois State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/illinois-state/)


The remaining years are pretty sparse at this point, but similarly impressive.


2024 (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2024/team/dixie-state)



08/31 - Montana State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/montana-state/)
09/07 - Southern Utah (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/southern-utah/)
09/14 - Northern Arizona (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/northern-arizona/)
09/21 - at UC Davis (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/uc-davis/)
11/09 - North Dakota (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/north-dakota/)
TBA - at Idaho (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/idaho/)


2025 (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2025/team/dixie-state)



08/30 - UC Davis (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/uc-davis/)
09/06 - at Northern Arizona (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/northern-arizona/)
09/13 - Idaho State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/idaho-state/)
09/20 - at Idaho (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/idaho/)
11/15 - Northern Iowa (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/northern-iowa/)



2026 (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2026/team/dixie-state)



09/05 - at Montana (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/montana/)
09/12 - Illinois State (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/illinois-state/)
09/19 - Northern Arizona (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/northern-arizona/)


2027 (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2027/team/dixie-state)



09/04 - at Northern Arizona (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/northern-arizona/)
09/18 - at Montana (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/montana/)



2028 (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2028/team/dixie-state)



09/16 - Northern Arizona (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/northern-arizona/)

[Original_Siouxperfan]

Missed this one, thanks.

This is what interests me most .. how did they make all these h&h's happen. What leverage did they have to get these top tier programs to agree to return a game at their place, for what should be a patsy game. It's not like when all the teams that formed Great West and the Dakota's joined MVFC .. they could fill their schedules immediately with h&h games. These guys are independent for football for now.

As for ISUr, we're all wondering why we have to travel (i.e. fly) to Utah for what should be a patsy game ... especially since wwe already do a h&h with rival OOC EIU. The fact that they did this with 7 teams now (incl SHSU) just seems amazing. What did they do to get all these top 10 level programs to agree to h&h ? I wonder if they agreed to pay for everyone's travel or something like that. ISUr has not disclosed terms of the deal and I assume it might be confidential.

Does this seem unusual to anyone else ?


This doesn't seem unusual at all. St. George is in a great location. I'm sure the team will fly into Vegas at a fairly reasonable cost and then bus to St. George (slightly less than 2 hours).

The location is a great getaway for fans from the Midwest. I remember UND's first trip to Cedar City in 2007 (about another 50 minutes up the road), there were several hundred UND fans there.

Although the numbers progressively decreased as the novelty wore off over the years (and there were more games out west), the experience allows fans to fly cheaply into Vegas, spend time at a beautiful game location and then spend the rest of the weekend in Las Vegas or Zions National Park.

[Redbird 4th & short]

This doesn't seem unusual at all. St. George is in a great location. I'm sure the team will fly into Vegas at a fairly reasonable cost and then bus to St. George (slightly less than 2 hours).

The location is a great getaway for fans from the Midwest. I remember UND's first trip to Cedar City in 2007 (about another 50 minutes up the road), there were several hundred UND fans there.

Although the numbers progressively decreased as the novelty wore off over the years (and there were more games out west), the experience allows fans to fly cheaply into Vegas, spend time at a beautiful game location and then spend the rest of the weekend in Las Vegas or Zions National Park.


I'm not sure any D-II team has made the jump, started independent, and scheduled this many competitive games so quickly. Being independent certainly forced their hand in large part, so they gave up a lot of home games to get this schedule. But surely, this is very unusual compared to how most teams make the jump .. granted, they are starting as an independent, which changes the scheduling dynamics.

Note, UND made the jump along with several other similar geography D-II teams ... so that helped ease their transition to FCS.

But my bottom line point, this is a very impressive and aggressive schedule for a D-II team making the jump. They will need to tep up their game and recruitment very fast.

I must also acknowledge ... others will have much better historical perspectives on stuff like this, than me.

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Oddly, all the talk here has been about St Thomas probably getting the go ahead for D1. They have been officially invited to the Summit and Augie hasn't (although everyone knows that there is something under the table.) From what I have heard- both of them would probably go Pioneer. Augie has around 2000 students so I doubt if they have the dough to go FCS scholarship- even Sanford Health doesn't want to put in that much more money.

Augie has no lights for Kirkeby-Owen, which is a beautiful stadium. Traditionally they have been much more of a basketball school than football. They have won D2 titles recently in men's basketball, baseball and softball, and have a long tradition of good cross country and track. But they are still going to be #3 behind USD and SDSU.

MSU beat Tarleton in the famous Snow Game with the 12 minute drive in the quarterfinals two years ago. I'm wondering what the long range goals are for them and Dixie. Now, you could get Northern Arizona and Southern Utah for football but that still isn't enough to start WAC football at this point.


I would love for them to convince about 5-6 teams from the Big Sky to leave.

[dbackjon]

I would love for them to convince about 5-6 teams from the Big Sky to leave.


I pick Montana, Idaho, Northern Colorado, Portland State and Cal Poly. Heckuva 6 team conference you would be in!

[Silenoz]

Brutal. Welcome to FCS?

[Redbird 4th & short]

I would love for them to convince about 5-6 teams from the Big Sky to leave.
this makes a lot of sense for Big Sky to split off some of those 14 teams, starting with UND this past year.

[KPSUL]

With 4 pages of threads on New Haven, I thought Dixie St deserved some attention. i am curious to know how they were able to convince 6 quality FCS programs, all from the 2 top conferences, to schedule all these h&h games. I'm guessing there had to be some incentive they offered to secure these in advance.

Because they will be an easy win. Next question?

[NDSUKurt]

Dixie State will continue to get home and homes with teams west of the Mississippi (or just past it) because Dixie State has some schedule flexibility. They are an independent school, with no conference games, so they pick as they want..

Also consider the number of teams in the Big Sky, Missouri Valley, and Southland Conferences starting in 2020:

Big Sky - 13 teams
Missouri Valley - 11 teams
Southland - 11 teams

This means that there will always be at least 1 team with a bye week throughout the whole conference season. Most teams in these conference will try to fill that late season bye with a game if the can, and Dixie State would be a natural partner (as would Tarleton State).

This is why teams will do home and homes with Dixie State. But I doubt that Dixie would be paying travel costs both ways.

There are a few games that Dixie scheduled that are guarantee games (the South Dakota State game), but most teams will be happy to do home and homes.

I also agree with the other comments - it is a great place to go. I was in St. George this past summer and went to Zion and toured the area on the way to to Salt Lake City. I flew to Vegas and drove up and loved the drive. It would be a great trip for fans to make a vacation out of.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Dixie State will continue to get home and homes with teams west of the Mississippi (or just past it) because Dixie State has some schedule flexibility. They are an independent school, with no conference games, so they pick as they want..

Also consider the number of teams in the Big Sky, Missouri Valley, and Southland Conferences starting in 2020:

Big Sky - 13 teams
Missouri Valley - 11 teams
Southland - 11 teams

This means that there will always be at least 1 team with a bye week throughout the whole conference season. Most teams in these conference will try to fill that late season bye with a game if the can, and Dixie State would be a natural partner (as would Tarleton State).

This is why teams will do home and homes with Dixie State. But I doubt that Dixie would be paying travel costs both ways.

There are a few games that Dixie scheduled that are guarantee games (the South Dakota State game), but most teams will be happy to do home and homes.

I also agree with the other comments - it is a great place to go. I was in St. George this past summer and went to Zion and toured the area on the way to to Salt Lake City. I flew to Vegas and drove up and loved the drive. It would be a great trip for fans to make a vacation out of.

I think part of the answer is that several of us got a 2 for 1 deal ... for instance, we get 2 home games against them first (2020 & 2023) and don't have to play at their place until 2026. But yes, for the teams further west, who usually have to fly to most games anyway, what you say makes a little more sense. Not the case as you get to midwest and further east .. we have more options within a bus ride.

But I originally thought we did a straight up h&h deal .. that made no sense to me .. flying to a patsy game. Then I heard we might get a 2 for 1. We do pretty well financially, but struggle with athletic budgets like most FCS teams. That is, home games vs travel games (bus vs plane) are important to manage. That was the main reason our AD scheduled NAIA St Xavier in 2018 (1 hour bus ride for them) and refused to reschedule it .. cheap home buy game. Problem was in 2017, we couldn't get an FBS buy game thanks to Barry Alvarez ban on FCS games (since softened), plus we had to fly to NAU, plus we only had 5 home games. So we got stuck with the NAIA game in 2018 due to not making budget in 2017.

[NDSUKurt]

I think part of the answer is that several of us got a 2 for 1 deal ... for instance, we get 2 home games against them first (2020 & 2023) and don't have to play at their place until 2026. But yes, for the teams further west, who usually have to fly to most games anyway, what you say makes a little more sense. Not the case as you get to midwest and further east .. we have more options within a bus ride.

But I originally thought we did a straight up h&h deal .. that made no sense to me .. flying to a patsy game. Then I heard we might get a 2 for 1. We do pretty well financially, but struggle with athletic budgets like most FCS teams. That is, home games vs travel games (bus vs plane) are important to manage. That was the main reason our AD scheduled NAIA St Xavier in 2018 (1 hour bus ride for them) and refused to reschedule it .. cheap home buy game. Problem was in 2017, we couldn't get an FBS buy game thanks to Barry Alvarez ban on FCS games (since softened), plus we had to fly to NAU, plus we only had 5 home games. So we got stuck with the NAIA game in 2018 due to not making budget in 2017.


Yes, the 2 for 1 deal works out fairly well for both sides.

Because Dixie State doesn't qualify for the playoffs for a while, it makes no sense to try to get all games at home versus name FCS programs. They might as well play as many home games against lower division teams as the can to save on money while going on the road for the FCS and FBS games. If they can get get the return games from FCS opponents when they are eligible for the playoffs, it would be a major score for them.

Also, playing home games against lower teams gives fans in St. George the change to see wins, and it also allows for any stadium improvements to be done. And lets not forget, they may not be very good the first couple of years they move up. Getting slaughtered on the road is a lot more acceptable than getting slaughtered at home - to the fans and to the rest of FCS for that matter.

[Hammerhead]

Utah is also home to the Jazz. According to a Wikipedia article, that's because there wasn't enough time to get a name change approved when the team moved.


How is Dixie State not in...The land of Dixie????

Utah????

[Laker]

Utah is also home to the Jazz. According to a Wikipedia article, that's because there wasn't enough time to get a name change approved when the team moved.

The Lakers and North Stars should have left there names in Minnesota. Don't know of any lakes around LA- they could have been the Aquaducts. I suppose maybe you can see Polaris in Dallas, just not near as well as you can here.