FCS STATS POLL- WEEK 11, 2019

[MUHAWKS]

STATS FCS Poll


Rankings as of 11/11/2019


Rank
School
Votes
Prev


1
North Dakota State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0309) (10-0)
3825 (153)
1


2
James Madison (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0196) (9-1)
3665
2


3
Weber State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0119) (8-2)
3525
3


4
UNI (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0123) (7-3)
3246
5


5
Montana (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0116) (8-2)
3161
6


6
Sacramento State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0110) (7-3)
2896
8


7
Illinois State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0121) (7-3)
2850
11


8
South Dakota State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0312) (7-3)
2662
4


9
Furman (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0174) (7-3)
2596
9


10
Montana State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0117) (7-3)
2279
12


11
Dartmouth (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0130) (8-0)
2119
13


12
Florida A&M (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0145) (8-1)
1599
16


13
Villanova (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0199) (7-3)
1572
18


14
Central Arkansas (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0268) (7-3)
1562
7


15
Southeast Missouri State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0155) (7-3)
1548
17


16
Kennesaw State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2610) (8-2)
1512
15


17
Monmouth (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0216) (8-2)
1398
19


18
Princeton (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0133) (7-1)
1171
10


19
Central Connecticut State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0209) (9-1)
1114
20


20
Towson (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0221) (6-4)
995
21


21
Wofford (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0267) (6-3)
818
24


22
Austin Peay (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0150) (7-3)
641
NR


23
Southeastern Louisiana (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2234) (6-3)
633
NR


24
Nicholls (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0181) (6-4)
505
25


25
North Carolina A&T (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0148) (6-3)
401
14


Others: North Dakota (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0308) (342) , Sam Houston State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0184) (264) , New Hampshire (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0205) (179) , Southern Illinois (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0124) (159) , Citadel (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0172) (146) , Yale (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0134) (90) , UC Davis (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0263) (58) , San Diego (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0169) (54) , UT Martin (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0156) (32) , Albany (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0546) (32) , Alcorn State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0188) (29) , Richmond (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0198) (20) , Maine (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0203) (11) , South Carolina State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0149) (10) , Eastern Washington (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0113) (3) , McNeese (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0180) (3)

[aceinthehole]

KSU ranking is just egregiously bad.

Princeton shouldn't be ahead of CCSU and why is FAMU is getting a lot of love with a similar SOS to Central Connecticut?

[TheKingpin28]

FAMU and KSU make this laughable

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[Redbird 4th & short]

As to FAMU ... they ar 7-1 in D-I games against a very weak SOS (Massey #88) .. below are their results along side Massey Opponent Ranking. Of their 7 wins, 6 are by average of less than 6 points per game .. and theyre giving up 26 points per game to this schedule. How anyone could view this as the 12th best resume in FCS is just plain stupid ... look at those scores .. does that not matter at all ??





Sun 10-20

NC A&T (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=5500&s=308075)
52(6-3)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158622)
34
31



Sat 10-12
at
S Carolina St (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=7250&s=308075)
58(6-3)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158617)
42
38



Sat 09-21

Southern Univ (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=7392&s=308075)
68(6-4)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158592)
27
21



Sat 09-28
at
Norfolk St (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=5475&s=308075)
81(4-6)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158601)
30
28



Sat 11-23
vs
Bethune-Cookman (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=691&s=308075)@ Orlando FL
84(6-3)
68 % (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158651)
31
24



Sat 10-26
at
Morgan St (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=5114&s=308075)
104(2-8)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158630)
24
12



Sat 10-05

NC Central (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=5505&s=308075)
106(4-6)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158608)
28
21



Sat 11-02

Delaware St (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=2118&s=308075)
119(2-8)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158634)
52
30

[ejjones]

As to FAMU ... they ar 7-1 in D-I games against a very weak SOS (Massey #88) .. below are their results along side Massey Opponent Ranking. Of their 7 wins, 6 are by average of less than 6 points per game .. and theyre giving up 26 points per game to this schedule. How anyone could view this as the 12th best resume in FCS is just plain stupid ... look at those scores .. does that not matter at all ??





Sun 10-20

NC A&T (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=5500&s=308075)
52(6-3)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158622)
34
31



Sat 10-12
at
S Carolina St (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=7250&s=308075)
58(6-3)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158617)
42
38



Sat 09-21

Southern Univ (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=7392&s=308075)
68(6-4)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158592)
27
21



Sat 09-28
at
Norfolk St (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=5475&s=308075)
81(4-6)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158601)
30
28



Sat 11-23
vs
Bethune-Cookman (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=691&s=308075)@ Orlando FL
84(6-3)
68 % (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158651)
31
24



Sat 10-26
at
Morgan St (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=5114&s=308075)
104(2-8)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158630)
24
12



Sat 10-05

NC Central (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=5505&s=308075)
106(4-6)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158608)
28
21



Sat 11-02

Delaware St (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=2118&s=308075)
119(2-8)
W (https://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=931158634)
52
30





Why even vote? Why not just use Massey? Everyone refers to Massey as it's the absolute barometer for measurement. Obviously, Massey is flawed as well.

[caribbeanhen]

KSU ranking is just egregiously bad.

Princeton shouldn't be ahead of CCSU and why is FAMU is getting a lot of love with a similar SOS to Central Connecticut?

agree on Kennesaw

disagree on CCSU over Princeton... will they ever play?

The answer to your FAMU Question can be none other than Southern Speed

[Redbird 4th & short]

Why even vote? Why not just use Massey? Everyone refers to Massey as it's the absolute barometer for measurement. Obviously, Massey is flawed as well.
I'm not suggesting using Massey .. I much more prefer the Massey Composite of 42 polls as a baseline (Massey is just 1 of 42) .. it's better than anything else out there.

But I'm just speaking generally to order of magnitude regarding their SOS and margins. Couple questions for you:

Are you impressed with this margins in those games ?

Do you believe FAMU is the 12th best team with those scores against those teams ?

[ElCid]

I'm not suggesting using Massey .. I much more prefer the Massey Composite of 42 polls as a baseline (Massey is just 1 of 42) .. it's better than anything else out there.

But I'm just speaking generally to order of magnitude regarding their SOS and margins. Couple questions for you:

Are you impressed with this margins in those games ?

Do you believe FAMU is the 12th best team with those scores against those teams ?


I still have to disagree with you about the composite. I think it is highly flawed. For example, one of the rating systems used has Campbell as #28. Really? It also has Sac St as #25 and Montana St as #29. They were just a couple examples...there are more. If you actually go to some of the sites of the rankings used in the composite, the top 25 can be very entertaining. I realize that it all gets averaged out, and the outliers are probably tossed, but some of them are seriously flawed and have who knows what kind of biases built into them. Some are just created by Joe six pack and his computer. That's why for computer rankings I stick to mainly Sagarin and pure Massey to get some objective feel. And they both have issues as well, but not nearly as bad as some. They are still merely data points to be considered. The main reason I like the Massey site in general is that they have all the schedule, score data, and rivalry history right at your finger tips. If you go look at the prediction and compare them to the actual scores for many games, he is pretty accurate. Not always obviously, but scary close sometimes.