#13 Furman @ [FBS] Virginia Tech (9/14 12pm)

[FUGameBreaker]

Another FBS affair for the Paladins at high noon this Saturday on ACC Network

[FUGameBreaker]

Trivia: What were the the last 2 FCS schools to defeat ACC teams?

[Daytripper]

The "keep it close but lose in the end" choice is standard for FCS-FBS matchups due to the difference in scholarships. Depth usually wins in the 4th quarter.

[FUGameBreaker]

Vegas currently has VA. Tech as a 21 point favorite
http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/

[FUGameBreaker]

Nice honor for our young QB

https://twitter.com/PaladinFootball/status/1171130877155434502

[Daytripper]

Nice honor for our young QB

https://twitter.com/PaladinFootball/status/1171130877155434502

Congratulations to that young man!

[gofurman]

that is pretty amazing considering he is A) on the ROAD and B) AT AN FBS opponent - that's the kicker. Sometimes they give this to someone who lit up an easier FCS opponent. To win the award w 4TDs (and another running TD - so 5 TDs !) and 0 picks etc vs FBS is really something

[FUGameBreaker]

that is pretty amazing considering he is A) on the ROAD and B) AT AN FBS opponent - that's the kicker. Sometimes they give this to someone who lit up an easier FCS opponent. To win the award w 4TDs (and another running TD - so 5 TDs !) and 0 picks etc vs FBS is really something


Hopefully his confidence stays high heading into the SoCon slate in 2 weeks

[PaladinNation]

I like Coach Clay's comments after the GSU game about Darren.
"I'm glad he's playing for us and he's always a positive guy."

Gotta feeling #4 is going to have a great career in Purple.

[FUGameBreaker]

I like Coach Clay's comments after the GSU game about Darren.
"I'm glad he's playing for us and he's always a positive guy."

Gotta feeling #4 is going to have a great career in Purple.


True dat!

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I watched a little of the Virginia Tech-ODU game. The Hokies have failed to take off under Fuentes like I figured they would. Not sure Furman can go into Blacksburg and win but I do believe they can make it interesting....

[PaladinNation]

Hoping to see more plays like these on Saturday…
https://twitter.com/PaladinFootball/status/1170483184972304384
https://twitter.com/PaladinFootball/status/1170524272386818050

[FUGameBreaker]

I watched a little of the Virginia Tech-ODU game. The Hokies have failed to take off under Fuentes like I figured they would. Not sure Furman can go into Blacksburg and win but I do believe they can make it interesting....

Thanks, hope you're right about us being able to hang!

[PaladinFan]

Hendrix hinted at it during his presser, but we may see Furman run more option on Saturday. Option football is an equalizer against a bigger faster team.

[FUGameBreaker]

Hendrix hinted at it during his presser, but we may see Furman run more option on Saturday. Option football is an equalizer against a bigger faster team.


True, keep that clock running

[FUGameBreaker]

Weather for Saturday could be interesting
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Blacksburg+VA+USVA0068:1:US

[FUBeAR]

Hendrix hinted at it during his presser, but we may see Furman run more option on Saturday. Option football is an equalizer against a bigger faster team.Hmmm....after watching the GaSt game, I don’t think many Mercer Fans would mind too much if Mr. Grainger were more at risk & in the line of direct fire of P5 DE’s, OLB’s, and/or SS’s by running a ton of option this coming Saturday.

Nah...don’t think we’ll see any more option than we’ve seen to date; possibly less.

[FUGameBreaker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1P5QQ4nGk4

[FUGameBreaker]

Hokies pulling out all the stops with Furman coming to town :D

https://twitter.com/VT_Football/status/1171414942219743234 (https://twitter.com/VT_Football/status/1171414942219743234)

[FUGameBreaker]

Game Notes for Saturday, looks like Paladins going into this game reasonably healthy
https://furmanpaladins.com/documents/2019/9/10/2019_Furman_Game_Notes_Career_Summaries.pdf

[gofurman]

Hendrix hinted at it during his presser, but we may see Furman run more option on Saturday. Option football is an equalizer against a bigger faster team.

I have no illusions about winning this. that said, did you watch GTech beat VTech running option last year? VT looked undisciplined. All I really want to do is get out w no injuries and be healthy when we play Mercer

[Derby City Duke]

Trivia: What were the the last 2 FCS schools to defeat ACC teams?

Richmond beat Virginia in 2016
Youngstown beat Pitt in 2012

Going back to 2010 there are 2 other FCS over ACC upsets:

Richmond beat Duke in 2011
JMU beat #13 Virginia Tech 9 years ago today.

Non-ACC fun fact: Navy once had a streak of 7 consecutive years with a 1-AA/FCS loss.

[FUGameBreaker]

Richmond beat Virginia in 2016
Youngstown beat Pitt in 2012

Going back to 2010 there are 2 other FCS over ACC upsets:

Richmond beat Duke in 2011
JMU beat #13 Virginia Tech 9 years ago today.

Non-ACC fun fact: Navy once had a streak of 7 consecutive years with a 1-AA/FCS loss.



Ding Ding Ding, that's correct

So Richmond got the last two in 2016 and 2011, as Pitt was still not in the ACC in 2012

But you also got extra credit with the JMU upset over VA. Tech in 2010, nice, I had a feeling it would be a Spider or a Duke that would finally come in to answer that question xthumbsupx

[OhioHen]

Richmond beat Virginia in 2016
Youngstown beat Pitt in 2012

Going back to 2010 there are 2 other FCS over ACC upsets:

Richmond beat Duke in 2011
JMU beat #13 Virginia Tech 9 years ago today.

Non-ACC fun fact: Navy once had a streak of 7 consecutive years with a 1-AA/FCS loss.

Not sure Richmond over Duke in 2011 was really an upset.

[FUGameBreaker]

Not sure Richmond over Duke in 2011 was really an upset.


Neither was Richmond over Virginia as UVA went 2-10 that year, but it was a win against an ACC member


Actually Richmond only won 3 games in 2011, they started 3-0 then finished 3-8, interesting

[Derby City Duke]

Ding Ding Ding, that's correct

So Richmond got the last two in 2016 and 2011, as Pitt was still not in the ACC in 2012

But you also got extra credit with the JMU upset over VA. Tech in 2010, nice, I had a feeling it would be a Spider or a Duke that would finally come in to answer that question xthumbsupx

Pitt was invited in 2011; I thought they began ACC play in 2012, but they didn't until the next year. My bad.

[FUGameBreaker]

https://twitter.com/PaladinFootball/status/1171866275125108736

[ElCid]

Non-ACC fun fact: Navy once had a streak of 7 consecutive years with a 1-AA/FCS loss.

Actually it was 8 years, 1985 through, and including the 1992 season. 12 FCS loses in 8 years...ouch. We had two of those scalps...including...wait for it, one in Charleston. One of the few FBS games played at an FCS school the last 30 some odd years. Pretty good. Also FYI, they lost two more times, in 2003 and 2007 to Delaware. So Delaware has 7 Navy scalps. They have 14 total 1AA/FCS loses since the split. They have obviously stepped up their game since their last loss in 07.

Delaware 1985
Delaware 1986
Lehigh and W&M 1987
The Citadel in Charleston 1988
The Citadel, Delaware, and JMU in 1989 (seriously bad losing to three FCS in one year)
JMU in 1990
Delaware and W&M in 1991
Delaware in 1992

[Derby City Duke]

Actually it was 8 years, 1985 through, and including the 1992 season. 12 FCS loses in 8 years...ouch. We had two of those scalps...including...wait for it, one in Charleston. One of the few FBS games played at an FCS school the last 30 some odd years. Pretty good. Also FYI, they lost two more times, in 2003 and 2007 to Delaware. So Delaware has 7 Navy scalps. They have 14 total 1AA/FCS loses since the split. They have obviously stepped up their game since their last loss in 07.

Delaware 1985
Delaware 1986
Lehigh and W&M 1987
The Citadel in Charleston 1988
The Citadel, Delaware, and JMU in 1989 (seriously bad losing to three FCS in one year)
JMU in 1990
Delaware and W&M in 1991
Delaware in 1992

I need to fire my research assistant...wait, that's me xembarrassedx

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Actually it was 8 years, 1985 through, and including the 1992 season. 12 FCS loses in 8 years...ouch. We had two of those scalps...including...wait for it, one in Charleston. One of the few FBS games played at an FCS school the last 30 some odd years. Pretty good. Also FYI, they lost two more times, in 2003 and 2007 to Delaware. So Delaware has 7 Navy scalps. They have 14 total 1AA/FCS loses since the split. They have obviously stepped up their game since their last loss in 07.

Delaware 1985
Delaware 1986
Lehigh and W&M 1987
The Citadel in Charleston 1988
The Citadel, Delaware, and JMU in 1989 (seriously bad losing to three FCS in one year)
JMU in 1990
Delaware and W&M in 1991
Delaware in 1992

I need to fire my research assistant...wait, that's me xembarrassedx

[ncspiderfan]

Neither was Richmond over Virginia as UVA went 2-10 that year, but it was a win against an ACC member


Actually Richmond only won 3 games in 2011, they started 3-0 then finished 3-8, interesting

Totally wild year with coach being fired week before season started as I remember.
Duke may never schedule Richmond again, with Spiders 3-0 in last three meetings 2006, 2009, 2011 if I remember the years correctly.

[FUGameBreaker]

Totally wild year with coach being fired week before season started as I remember.
Duke may never schedule Richmond again, with Spiders 3-0 in last three meetings 2006, 2009, 2011 if I remember the years correctly.


Yep since you guys smacked them silly they seem to only want to play the MEAC for their lone FCS game lol

[gofurman]

though Duke is a totally different animal these days. they just KILLD NC A&T (top 20 FCS team) by about 30. I don't think they would fear anyone except top 5 maybe... Cutcliffe has done very well there.. funny story that UT asked him to come be their coach and he turned UT down to stay at Duke ! Duke just sent their QB to the NFL as the second pick? they are .500 ACC now. they used to be a 2-10 team now they are 6-6 easy

[PaladinNation]

Has nothing to do with this game but George Quarles turned down offer (s) to join UT as well as other FBS schools.
This is another game to see how far Furman has come under CCH.

The offense played well enough to win at GSU, I will add the caveat that on a couple of drives Furman didn't play as big.
To have any chance of winning the DIN offense has to take advantage of every opportunity and grab every point.

I hope we see more from the Furman defense when they're not playing a video game offense.

[PaladinFan]

Has nothing to do with this game but George Quarles turned down offer (s) to join UT as well as other FBS schools.
This is another game to see how far Furman has come under CCH.

The offense played well enough to win at GSU, I will add the caveat that on a couple of drives Furman didn't play as big.
To have any chance of winning the DIN offense has to take advantage of every opportunity and grab every point.

I hope we see more from the Furman defense when they're not playing a video game offense.

Personal observations, but the GSU offense was a tough matchup for our defense. Brad Glenn's offenses are usually good, but they are also in hurry up mode for four quarters. That's a tough task when you are at a 20+ scholarship player disadvantage on a hot night. They've just got more bodies than we do.

[gofurman]

Personal observations, but the GSU offense was a tough matchup for our defense. Brad Glenn's offenses are usually good, but they are also in hurry up mode for four quarters. That's a tough task when you are at a 20+ scholarship player disadvantage on a hot night. They've just got more bodies than we do.

PaladinFan, your point is a good one in that it's sort of the opposite of Samford right now. Both GSU and Samford play some hurry up or throw some.. so if it's clicking it wears the opposing defense down. GSU wore us down because they sustained those drives. If they miss a few throws or we get that O off the field their D begins to wear down because we run more and have longer TOP. I suspect that has happened to Samford in these first games - well, the YSU one at least.

[gofurman]

Paladin fan knows his stuff and he knows this is why I went into that GSU game 'concerned':
- far more scholarships (as he said)
- in the HEAT.. intereseting note but someone once charted our success in September vs October vs FBS. We were much better in October when heat isn't so brutal on depth
- Western Carolina / GSU offense is a hurry up offense.. more wear on our depth (and this showed in second half)
- Western Carolina themselves shoulda/coulda beat Furman last year - that too was a shootout. And we got a few key turnovers. We just don't do well w mobile QBs and strong WRs. And we were able to hit Tyrie Adams - we couldn't get to the GSU QB. We blitzed very little in 'respect' for his mobility and when we did the GSU OL picked it up. We were able to hit Tyrie Adams but not the GSU QB

Furman strength - and I agree in principal - is running the ball and stopping the run. It works. Bobby Johnson did it and got us to the National Title game.. Hendrix has us improving a lot ! We may have just found a QB where our pass game is strong ... great kicker in All America Atkins. last piece to solve for us is pass D - against most FCS we can get a pass rush to help our CBs. couldn't get that vs GSU

[FUGameBreaker]

VA. Tech players it would seem are taking FU seriously

https://twitter.com/chamarriconner9/status/1171819301566930945

[FUGameBreaker]

Football gets cranked up early this Saturday, games ill be flipping back and forth between:

FU @ VA. Tech 12pm
UTC @ Tenn. 12pm
Citadel @ GA. Tech 12:30pm
NDSU @ Delaware 1pm

[FUGameBreaker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTZkKG1nqrQ

[ElCid]

Football gets cranked up early this Saturday, games ill be flipping back and forth between:

FU @ VA. Tech 12pm
UTC @ Tenn. 12pm
Citadel @ GA. Tech 12:30pm
NDSU @ Delaware 1pm

Yeah and all three SOCON games are going to be on my cable. I can only DVR two max channels simultaneously and my Dogs will be one obviously. I will flip to the others as able or if we go south big time. Good coverage for the SOCON, but I got to think that all three FBS teams will not be taking any of us lightly. Is it Saturday yet?

[FUGameBreaker]

Yeah and all three SOCON games are going to be on my cable. I can only DVR two max channels simultaneously and my Dogs will be one obviously. I will flip to the others as able or if we go south big time. Good coverage for the SOCON, but I got to think that all three FBS teams will not be taking any of us lightly. Is it Saturday yet?


Agree man, let's just hope we can get at least one of these to go into the 4th quarter with still a little mystery xnodx

[FUBeAR]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTZkKG1nqrQ
LOL - I hope VPI has been working all week to prepare to stop Georgia Tech’s Former Offense.

[PaladinNation]

I thought the same thing - what the heck are they talking about - you'd think Furman's offense is a unicorn. Well, maybe it is.

[FUGameBreaker]

I thought the same thing - what the heck are they talking about - you'd think Furman's offense is a unicorn. Well, maybe it is.


Lol xthumbsupx

[PaladinFan]

I thought the same thing - what the heck are they talking about - you'd think Furman's offense is a unicorn. Well, maybe it is.

I would imagine it is a difficult offense to prepare for. Furman runs the ball as well as the best running teams, and throws it as well as the best throwing teams.

Watching the team play live last week, I was impressed by how the offense operates. There are a lot of personnel changes, dozens of formations, and presnap shifts. The backs are fast physical runners and all of them can catch. It's a touch matchup for a defense.

[FUGameBreaker]

G-News article for this Saturday's game
https://twitter.com/GreenvilleNews/status/1172517796397420544


https://twitter.com/PaladinFootball/status/1172522352728530944

[FUGameBreaker]

https://twitter.com/VT_Football/status/1172567399159218176

[FUGameBreaker]

https://twitter.com/FurmanEquip/status/1172620235540766722

[gofurman]

before anyone takes the transitive property too far.. VT shoulda beat Boston College easily. VT had 5 turnovers and still only lost at BC by one score. Anytime you have 5 turnovers (and a neg 4 to ratio) you should get blown out. But VT stayed in the game anyway. That's remarkable. VT also had a neg 2 turnover ratio against ODU and still won easily as they got up 24-3. IE, they are better than their scores

that's my Lou Holtz for the day

[FUGameBreaker]

Kansas beats Boston College on the road tonight as a 21 point underdog, tomorrow the Paladins are 21 point road underdogs, it can be done xthumbsupx

[FUGameBreaker]

https://twitter.com/PaladinFootball/status/1172828588728606720

[ElCid]

Furman holding their own, down 3-0. Defense looking good.

[kdinva]

Paladins have Lane stadium silent, Furple leads 14-3, 5:35 in the 2nd....

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

14-3 Furman.

I doubt Furman will hold Tech all game, but I think the Paladins will get their points here.

[Schism55]

14-3 Furman!
Can someone check on FUGB? He made need some smelling salts xnodx

[PaladinFan]

14-3 Furman.

I doubt Furman will hold Tech all game, but I think the Paladins will get their points here.

Probably not. VT doesn't have the firepower offensively that Georgia State does. If Furman can get the offense moving a bit, we might be able to stay ahead of them.

[FUGameBreaker]

https://twitter.com/PaladinFootball/status/1172923171831537664

[FUGameBreaker]

https://twitter.com/PaladinFootball/status/1172920556108296192

[PaladinFan]

Paladins in for a fight now. 14-10 Furman. Offense has gotta hold the ball and put some points up.

Defense has played well, but you can't expect them to hold VT off forever.

[ElCid]

Not good if Furman loses QB. Hopefully he comes back in.

[FUGameBreaker]

Furman with the ball and a chance to get a late lead here in the 4th quarter

[ElCid]

Oops. Int. Furman may have just shot themselves in the foot.

[FUGameBreaker]

https://twitter.com/PaladinFootball/status/1172941824773775362

[PaladinFan]

VT is defending us differently than Georgia State did. State put 11 guys within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage, which allowed Furman to throw downfield.

Tech knows they have an advantage up front, they are dropping their DBs back and taking away the deep ball. Furmans struggling to win at the line of scrimmage. Just look outmanned up there.

[FUGameBreaker]

Figures only offense showed up last week and only defense showed up today

[FUGameBreaker]

Oh well, we hung very close

Now on to SoCon ball xthumbsupx

[PaladinFan]

Figures only offense showed up last week and only defense showed up today

It's not about "showing up." Furman is playing its second FBS game in two weeks.

There's no FCS team we'll see with GSU's offense or VT's defense.

[FUGameBreaker]

FBS refs have made Furman 1-2 instead of 3-0, totally rigged and total BS, will never watch an FBS game for the rest of my life

[Humble Steward]

Wow, the refs just stole an onside kick from Furman. That was a horrible call against Furman.

[walliver]

That’s the first time (and likely the last) I think we’ll ever see that strange call on the insides kick.

[PaladinFan]

Wow, the refs just stole an onside kick from Furman. That was a horrible call against Furman.

Hard to even explain. Furman would have had the ball at midfield, two TOs, and down 7.

At least give the kids a chance.

[FUGameBreaker]

Hard to even explain. Furman would have had the ball at midfield, two TOs, and down 7.

At least give the kids a chance.



Seriously, sports have turned into a major sham these days, what garbage that was :(

[Humble Steward]

Hard to even explain. Furman would have had the ball at midfield, two TOs, and down 7.

At least give the kids a chance.

Exactly. You are hurting the kids. They just want a fair chance to win. That was just sad.

[FUwolfpacker]

That’s the first time (and likely the last) I think we’ll ever see that strange call on the insides kick.

Agreed. Incredibly liberal and ACC-friendly interpretation of that rule. Pretty bitter pill to swallow.

VT played well the 2nd half. Furman couldn't hit any of their big plays like they have the last 2 weeks. The few times Furman tried to be aggressive, VT was ready for it. 2 big drops (one of the last drive on the first half and one on an iffy potential PI call) didn't help either.

Tough one. Oh well. I think we got out mostly healthy though. Time to get ready for next week with Mercer. Can't let 2 close, tough losses cost you a 3rd one next week.

[FUGameBreaker]

Yes VA. Tech we will take your $425k and we will also go away knowing we have a better football team

FBS ref chumps

https://twitter.com/NCAAFNation247/status/1172947701891252225

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I watched a little of the Virginia Tech-ODU game. The Hokies have failed to take off under Fuentes like I figured they would. Not sure Furman can go into Blacksburg and win but I do believe they can make it interesting....

I thought ya had a chance! Great game Paladins. Definitely look Top 10ish...

[FUwolfpacker]

The called 5 for the block on 23. Which looking at it again, I guess technically he did, but 23 never even remotely makes a move towards the ball for a recovery. 23's first move is to the inside, away from where the ball is going. Crazy. Either way, that has probably happened on every onside kick since that rule was created. My guess is that's one of the few times it's ever been called.

The overturn aside. That onside kick is nasty. Takes a seriously hard left turn after looking like it's going dead straight 5 yards off the kick.

[SUPharmacist]

Yes VA. Tech we will take your $425k and we will also go away knowing we have a better football team

Do you?

[FUGameBreaker]

This is where we say FU ALL THE TIME!

[TribeNomad1]

FCS v. FBS

"The rich man busy dancing while the poor man pays the band".

Calls always heavily skewed to FBS. Will not change until Bernie makes college free.

[gofurman]

Do you?

Cmon man. We were supposed to get KILLED - line closed at 24. We led both Georgia State (FBS) and VTech (FBS) at half. BOTH and then depth wore us down. 63 scholarships vs 85. take 15 redshirts and its roughly 70 players vs 50. we just wore down in both games - credit to the FBS GSU and VTech

but if the dam FCS voters (sure AGS guys here know) don't keep us top 15 or move us up they are idiots. 24-17 vs VTech? Hope SIDs don't just see Furman is 1-2 ...

let's see if COACHES or STATS know theie stuuf

[FUGameBreaker]

Furman has a damn fine team boys

[SUPharmacist]

Cmon man. We were supposed to get KILLED - line closed at 24. We led both Georgia State (FBS) and VTech (FBS) at half. BOTH and then depth wore us down. 63 scholarships vs 85. take 15 redshirts and its roughly 70 players vs 50. we just wore down in both games - credit to the FBS GSU and VTech

but if the dam FCS voters (sure AGS guys here know) don't keep us top 15 or move us up they are idiots. 24-17 vs VTech? Hope SIDs don't just see Furman is 1-2 ...

let's see if COACHES or STATS know theie stuuf

All fair points, but my comment was just about whether you had the better team. I would have kept my mouth shut but FUGameBreaker always likes to troll so....

Also, I am not a poll voter but strong showings should be rewarded (does not however mean you were the better team).

[apaladin]

I thought if nothing was called on the field, they could not look at replay and then make a call. You really had to be begging/looking for something to make that call even if it was reviewable which I don't think it was. Besides that the 2 players just sort of ran together there was no block. Even VPI fans said FU got hosed on that one.

[semobison]

Yes VA. Tech we will take your $425k and we will also go away knowing we have a better football team

FBS ref chumps

https://twitter.com/NCAAFNation247/status/1172947701891252225

Total offense:
VA Tech 350,
FU. 231,

Id say the better team won!

[gofurman]

better team did win. FUrman should be rewarded in polls for a FINE FINE FINE showing. Vs a 24 point ACC favorite we lost by a score w three freshman making their starts and a R-FR QB. we had freshman everywhere as we were missing a Senior CB.

I am objective - better team won. no doubt. Furman should hold or move up in polls no doubt.

[semobison]

better team did win. FUrman should be rewarded in polls for a FINE FINE FINE showing. Vs a 24 point ACC favorite we lost by a score w three freshman making their starts and a R-FR QB. we had freshman everywhere as we were missing a Senior CB.

I am objective - better team won. no doubt. Furman should hold or move up in polls no doubt.

Good game for Furman! Just tired of GameBreakers BS!

[FUGameBreaker]

Furman is 3-0 with fair officiating the last 2 weeks, no doubt about it



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3pO_fIHhHc

[PAllen]

Yes VA. Tech we will take your $425k and we will also go away knowing we have a better football team

FBS ref chumps

https://twitter.com/NCAAFNation247/status/1172947701891252225

Not a penalty. The VT blocker came out to initiate a block. The Furman player is allowed to attempt to avoid or defend himself from the block. Looks like he tried to avoid. These BS calls always come in as these officials' jobs depend on the good graces of their conference ADs. So letting one of your schools lose to an FCS team is not a good thing, but any complaint by the FCS programs against the FBS officials fall on deaf ears.

[FUGameBreaker]

Not a penalty. The VT blocker came out to initiate a block. The Furman player is allowed to attempt to avoid or defend himself from the block. Looks like he tried to avoid. These BS calls always come in as these officials' jobs depend on the good graces of their conference ADs. So letting one of your schools lose to an FCS team is not a good thing, but any complaint by the FCS programs against the FBS officials fall on deaf ears.


Indeed

[Redbird 4th & short]

Nice game for Furman ... kudos for close VA Tech loss, but no kudos for close Georgia St loss ... they were 2-10 last year and ranked #123 by Massey. Top 20 teams should beat teams like Goergia St. VA Tech was tougher at 6-6 in ACC before losing bowl game to Cincy ... ranked #68 by Massey last year. So a quality loss, but not exactly a good FBS team ... at 6-6 ranked #68 ... that makes them average for FBS.

[ElCid]

Nice game for Furman ... kudos for close VA Tech loss, but no kudos for close Georgia St loss ... they were 2-10 last year and ranked #123 by Massey. Top 20 teams should beat teams like Goergia St. VA Tech was tougher at 6-6 in ACC before losing bowl game to Cincy ... ranked #68 by Massey last year. So a quality loss, but not exactly a good FBS team ... at 6-6 ranked #68 ... that makes them average for FBS.

I am not sure what last year's records have to do with this year ranking or ratings. How each team progresses or regresses, this year, is already worth more after three games now. Georgia State knocked off UT on the road. They are a much better team this year and any reference to last year is pretty pointless. If they lose tonight I will buy it. I don't expect them to. I agree VaTech is an average team this year, so far.

[PaladinFan]

Nice game for Furman ... kudos for close VA Tech loss, but no kudos for close Georgia St loss ... they were 2-10 last year and ranked #123 by Massey. Top 20 teams should beat teams like Goergia St. VA Tech was tougher at 6-6 in ACC before losing bowl game to Cincy ... ranked #68 by Massey last year. So a quality loss, but not exactly a good FBS team ... at 6-6 ranked #68 ... that makes them average for FBS.

This is a dumb take.

One of Georgia State's two wins last year was against Kennesaw State, the #4 seed in the FCS playoffs. This Georgia State team is better than the one last year.

[FUGameBreaker]

https://twitter.com/PaladinFootball/status/1172967011338588162

[gofurman]

This is a dumb take.

One of Georgia State's two wins last year was against Kennesaw State, the #4 seed in the FCS playoffs. This Georgia State team is better than the one last year.


This. Just facts. GSU won two games last year but when they played vs FCS that was one of the wins vs top 10 and seeded KSU ! So they were a top 5/10 FCS last year easily. They are arguably better this year having beaten Tennessee and Furman. They will probably double the win total of last year and last year they knocked off an FCS top 5 !

[FUGameBreaker]

Paladins take things one week at a time and take care of Biz in the SoCon and we will be exactly where we want to be come playoff time xhurrayx

[JSUSoutherner]

This is a dumb take.

One of Georgia State's two wins last year was against Kennesaw State, the #4 seed in the FCS playoffs. This Georgia State team is better than the one last year.

Georgia State sucks.

Kennesaw blew the game last year like they blew the Kent game this year.

Even Tennessee freaking State has a GSU scalp.

[gofurman]

Georgia State sucks.

Kennesaw blew the game last year like they blew the Kent game this year.

Even Tennessee freaking State has a GSU scalp.

Too much generalization. Every year is different. Heck every game is different - you of ALL people ought to agree seeing JSU lose first game look bad and then win great today. You can’t generalize too much. If we did then you beat EWU and I guess that means the team that beat y’all first game is top three since JSU beat top 4 EWU and whoever beat y’all first week win by about 20. You just can’t generalize but so much.

GSU ain’t great but I’ve been around FCS since 91. They would be top 5 FCS this year. I mean Citadel is 0-2 in FCS and must suck and was a 33 point underdog to FBS GTech but wait ... they won! I guess we can say FBS is easier than FCS ...

look GSU isn’t a world beater in FBS but I promise you they are top 10 FCS level. Heck they are better than Vegas thought! OU on total season wins was 3.5 for GSU. They will eclipse that likely so even Vegas undervalued them $

[walliver]

Every game is a distinct entity. Georgia State beat Tennessee but was blown out yesterday by mighty Western Michigan 57-10. Syracuse was destroyed by a Maryland team that lost to Temple, but stayed close with Clemson for a half.

I’m not a big NFL fan, but at least they they have a completely objective mechanism for picking playoff participants.

[gofurman]

Every game is a distinct entity. Georgia State beat Tennessee but was blown out yesterday by mighty Western Michigan 57-10. Syracuse was destroyed by a Maryland team that lost to Temple, but stayed close with Clemson for a half.

I’m not a big NFL fan, but at least they they have a completely objective mechanism for picking playoff participants.

right on walliver. if we could generalize so much western michigan would beat Tennessee by 50

[kdinva]

I hate to tick off the Paladin Nation, but right now Dook is handing Va Tech their a$$.....leading 38-10 in the 4th qtr, in Blacksburg....

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I hate to tick off the Paladin Nation, but right now Dook is handing Va Tech their a$$.....leading 38-10 in the 4th qtr, in Blacksburg....

Duke is simply clowning the Hokies! I'm headed to the Duke-Notre Dame game in early November. The Dookies have the ability to make that game interesting as long as they stay healthy.

[FUGameBreaker]

Duke is simply clowning the Hokies! I'm headed to the Duke-Notre Dame game in early November. The Dookies have the ability to make that game interesting as long as they stay healthy.



Furman was well on their way to clowning the Hokies as well until the rigged ACC refs stepped in and took over the game

[gofurman]

I hate to tick off the Paladin Nation, but right now Dook is handing Va Tech their a$$.....leading 38-10 in the 4th qtr, in Blacksburg....

No tick off here. Duke KILLED NC A&T who is top 25 FCS. Beat NC A&T like a drum. Duke is far better than VT. That’s a fact. Duke is sending nasty QBs to NFL.
THIS IS NOT YOUR FATHERS DUKE TEAM.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Furman was well on their way to clowning the Hokies as well until the rigged ACC refs stepped in and took over the game

Not a 45-10 clowning. Virginia Tech looks awful! They looked bad when I watched some of their game against ODU. Fuentes's seat has to be getting hot. Beamer and Vick were in the house tonight.

[gofurman]

Not a 45-10 clowning. Virginia Tech looks awful! They looked bad when I watched some of their game against ODU. Fuentes's seat has to be getting hot. Beamer and Vick were in the house tonight.

You are right. No one has kicked em like Duke did. Duke would win FCS title I think.

As a guy whose family is in Durham Duke is sooooo different at football than 10 years ago or prior to Cutcliffe. Only Spurrier and Cutcliffe succeeded at Duke. Fuente has to be feeling heat soon. I would think

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

No tick off here. Duke KILLED NC A&T who is top 25 FCS. Beat NC A&T like a drum. Duke is far better than VT. That’s a fact. Duke is sending nasty QBs to NFL.
THIS IS NOT YOUR FATHERS DUKE TEAM.

I agree that Duke is legit. They might be similar to Northwestern last year. They actually hung with 'Bama for a while. The ND game at Wallace-Wade has the potential to be a prime time deal....

[FUGameBreaker]

Not a 45-10 clowning. Virginia Tech looks awful! They looked bad when I watched some of their game against ODU. Fuentes's seat has to be getting hot. Beamer and Vick were in the house tonight.



Clowing in the sense that a team with 8k fans should have beaten the team with 60k fans, I knew Duke would take them down tonight, I also would not be surprised if Fuente is looking for a new job come December

[Schism55]

This is the worst Va Tech in memory, and I've seen a lot of Hokie football. It's really surprising, shocking actually

[ElCid]

This is the worst Va Tech in memory, and I've seen a lot of Hokie football. It's really surprising, shocking actually

I actually have an interesting question. If an FBS loses to an FCS, or gets a serious scare as in this case, I wonder if and how that affects the FBS team the remainder of the season. VA Tech looked bad and like they were going through the motions.
Look at Michigan in 2007. They fell off a cliff after losing to App. We're they really that bad or did losing contribute to the fall. Is it because scalped FBS were bad to begin with that they lost or does getting humbled by a lowly FCS add to the downfall by any degree. I may have to go look at the data to see if there is a trend. It will hard to determine, if not impossible. But it's got to take it out of the players, coaches and fans. I suspect it impacts P5 more than G5. The shock value is greater. As with all things, it probably lies somewhere in-between. Pretty bad, and shocked just makes it worse. VA Tech didn't lose to Furman, but they should have, and I am pretty sure they know it in Blacksburg.

[Schism55]

https://twitter.com/AP_Top25/status/1177798131859243008
Yiiiikes

[SUPharmacist]

I actually have an interesting question. If an FBS loses to an FCS, or gets a serious scare as in this case, I wonder if and how that affects the FBS team the remainder of the season. VA Tech looked bad and like they were going through the motions.
Look at Michigan in 2007. They fell off a cliff after losing to App. We're they really that bad or did losing contribute to the fall.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Michigan_Wolverines_football_team

The Michigan season was far shy of expectations before the App St game, but 9-4 with a bowl win over Florida is far from falling off a cliff. That said, I do know where you are coming from and wonder how much it impacts a team.

[PaladinFan]

Reading their fan forum, most VT fans are down on the team and the state of the program. I think trailing Furman much of the game was a cold glass of water to the face of the fan base (who, pregame, thought they'd beat Furman by 40).

[FUGameBreaker]

Reading their fan forum, most VT fans are down on the team and the state of the program. I think trailing Furman much of the game was a cold glass of water to the face of the fan base (who, pregame, thought they'd beat Furman by 40).


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