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hoidOfYolen
January 31st, 2019, 05:21 PM
Be warned: These are just my opinions, and I would love to hear yours below. I am NOT saying JMU can't win it all, just that they probably won't and another, more complete team will. I intend this post only to spark discussion about JMU's weaknesses going into next season.

1. The QB Question. It's a pretty obvious problem that the QB room at JMU doesn't have a clear path forward. A question at Quarterback is one of the hardest things to solve for a team, especially a team who's going through a coaching change.
2. The coaching change. There's obviously something to be said about having a new coach being difficult, for a multitude of reasons. There's also something to be said for the fact that JMU made a successful coaching change in 2016 and took the national title. What's different between 2016 and 2019 is the experience that the coach is inheriting. The depth of experience JMU has right now certainly makes it easier to rely on players to play strong and perform on the field. But experience can also be a detriment during a coaching change if it shakes up the team dynamic. Cignetti is going to come in with a "blueprint" like he did with Elon, and younger players are arguably easier to have "buy into" this gameplan. Elon was mostly a young team when Cignetti came in, and as a result the young, hungry players were eager to get their chance and would buy into the gameplan eagerly. Given the QB battle they have going on, they could get 3, perhaps even 4 QBs vying for the top job, and whoever gets the position will want to show that they deserve the spot. And given the lack of reliability at QB, a person in that position who both isn't proven yet and also feels they have to prove themselves is a bad mixture. And Cignetti loves to run the ball. He's practically addicted to running right between the tackles. This might not sit well with a QB room full of guys that feel they need to prove they can take up the mantle, and it might lead to more mistakes when they do throw the ball. We all saw how badly JMU can be when their QB throws interceptions by last year's UNH game.
3. JMU doesn't ostensibly have a true "leader" in the team right now. Key word here is "ostensibly", meaning that if they do it's not publicly known or obvious. If they do, cool. But from the outside it doesn't seem like they have a true person to rally around like Bryan Schor was. Schor was reliable and charismatic. This point is both the most important and the most shaky for me, because none of us really know the atmosphere in the locker room, not really, so it could be moot. But during a coaching change JMU is losing its one ostensible leader in Mike Houston, who really seemed to keep the team's morale and passion where it needed to be, up until near the end when he was leaving. But JMU struggled last year against good teams, which is my next point, and it seemed to me because they didn't have a leader on the field they could rely on. DiNucci just didn't perform consistently well under pressure and I think this was the biggest thing that contributed to the team's losses to Elon, UNH, and Colgate. In 2016 I think what helped JMU win the national title and perform against good teams was more about Bryan Schor, not Mike Houston, and I think this team needs a leader on the field to be successful. It remains to be seen if someone like that will stand up.
4. Something held JMU back last year when playing against "good" teams. They beat the crap out of "bad" teams. But they seemed to falter when pitted against teams that really challenged them. We saw this first in the Elon game, where they just didn't have an answer for our running game and that opened up the pass over time (even though Elon's QB had a very mediocre game, the ability to pass on the last drive and the performance on the last drive in particular was what helped them win the game). I'm not sure what held JMU back in this game, but it seemed like they just faltered when they couldn't run the ball against Elon's defense. Given a coach that loves to run the ball, they might struggle if they can't make that side of their game work, and that in particular might make them one-dimensional.
5. Cignetti runs the ball first and foremost. JMU has been no stranger to running the ball, and they will be good at it, so this is the weakest of my criticisms of their new scheme, but I still think JMU will not show very much confidence in their passing game, trying multiple QBs before deciding on one, and even after that will be one-dimensional.

Caveat - The biggest reason they might win actually it all that I don't see talked about:
Every single starting OLineman returns for JMU, and they are all beasts. This will synergize well with Cignetti's preference for running the ball. If JMU can dominate the line of scrimmage, there's very little anyone can do to stop them given their talent at RB. It might not matter that they become one-dimensional. If they can run the ball as much as NDSU does and still succeed, then there's no problem. Now, they probably won't have a QB like Easton Stick to open up the run game. But if they do get something good going there, they can be potent in the run game.

cx500d
January 31st, 2019, 06:48 PM
Be warned: These are just my opinions, and I would love to hear yours below. I am NOT saying JMU can't win it all, just that they probably won't and another, more complete team will. I intend this post only to spark discussion about JMU's weaknesses going into next season.

1. The QB Question. It's a pretty obvious problem that the QB room at JMU doesn't have a clear path forward. A question at Quarterback is one of the hardest things to solve for a team, especially a team who's going through a coaching change.
2. The coaching change. There's obviously something to be said about having a new coach being difficult, for a multitude of reasons. There's also something to be said for the fact that JMU made a successful coaching change in 2016 and took the national title. What's different between 2016 and 2019 is the experience that the coach is inheriting. The depth of experience JMU has right now certainly makes it easier to rely on players to play strong and perform on the field. But experience can also be a detriment during a coaching change if it shakes up the team dynamic. Cignetti is going to come in with a "blueprint" like he did with Elon, and younger players are arguably easier to have "buy into" this gameplan. Elon was mostly a young team when Cignetti came in, and as a result the young, hungry players were eager to get their chance and would buy into the gameplan eagerly. Given the QB battle they have going on, they could get 3, perhaps even 4 QBs vying for the top job, and whoever gets the position will want to show that they deserve the spot. And given the lack of reliability at QB, a person in that position who both isn't proven yet and also feels they have to prove themselves is a bad mixture. And Cignetti loves to run the ball. He's practically addicted to running right between the tackles. This might not sit well with a QB room full of guys that feel they need to prove they can take up the mantle, and it might lead to more mistakes when they do throw the ball. We all saw how badly JMU can be when their QB throws interceptions by last year's UNH game.
3. JMU doesn't ostensibly have a true "leader" in the team right now. Key word here is "ostensibly", meaning that if they do it's not publicly known or obvious. If they do, cool. But from the outside it doesn't seem like they have a true person to rally around like Bryan Schor was. Schor was reliable and charismatic. This point is both the most important and the most shaky for me, because none of us really know the atmosphere in the locker room, not really, so it could be moot. But during a coaching change JMU is losing its one ostensible leader in Mike Houston, who really seemed to keep the team's morale and passion where it needed to be, up until near the end when he was leaving. But JMU struggled last year against good teams, which is my next point, and it seemed to me because they didn't have a leader on the field they could rely on. DiNucci just didn't perform consistently well under pressure and I think this was the biggest thing that contributed to the team's losses to Elon, UNH, and Colgate. In 2016 I think what helped JMU win the national title and perform against good teams was more about Bryan Schor, not Mike Houston, and I think this team needs a leader on the field to be successful. It remains to be seen if someone like that will stand up.
4. Something held JMU back last year when playing against "good" teams. They beat the crap out of "bad" teams. But they seemed to falter when pitted against teams that really challenged them. We saw this first in the Elon game, where they just didn't have an answer for our running game and that opened up the pass over time (even though Elon's QB had a very mediocre game, the ability to pass on the last drive and the performance on the last drive in particular was what helped them win the game). I'm not sure what held JMU back in this game, but it seemed like they just faltered when they couldn't run the ball against Elon's defense. Given a coach that loves to run the ball, they might struggle if they can't make that side of their game work, and that in particular might make them one-dimensional.
5. Cignetti runs the ball first and foremost. JMU has been no stranger to running the ball, and they will be good at it, so this is the weakest of my criticisms of their new scheme, but I still think JMU will not show very much confidence in their passing game, trying multiple QBs before deciding on one, and even after that will be one-dimensional.

Caveat - The biggest reason they might win actually it all that I don't see talked about:
Every single starting OLineman returns for JMU, and they are all beasts. This will synergize well with Cignetti's preference for running the ball. If JMU can dominate the line of scrimmage, there's very little anyone can do to stop them given their talent at RB. It might not matter that they become one-dimensional. If they can run the ball as much as NDSU does and still succeed, then there's no problem. Now, they probably won't have a QB like Easton Stick to open up the run game. But if they do get something good going there, they can be potent in the run game.

I wouldn't call Schor charismatic. He was certainly reliable, but I viewed him as calm, cool, collected.

Derby City Duke
February 1st, 2019, 01:34 PM
I wouldn't call Schor charismatic. He was certainly reliable, but I viewed him as calm, cool, collected.


Nobody really knew what we had in Schor heading into 2016. He finished the season after Vad Lee got hurt in the Richmond game; 2015 ended with a loss to Colgate in the playoffs (as the #5 seed, no less). Not sure he was really viewed as 'that guy' from a leadership standpoint at that time.

Mike Houston brought in Connor Mitch, an SEC transfer from So. Carolina to compete for the QB job. Apparently that was all that Schor needed -- he met the challenge head on, elevated his game, and did tremendous things for the next two years. With him it was always about the next play, never 'look at what I just did'. Mitch rarely saw the field and ended up leaving the program.

I get the feeling Rashad Robinson, coming back off the foot injury that kept him out last year, will be that leader on defense. I also will be looking to Riley Stapleton to fill some of that role on the offense.

Still think DiNucci's the clubhouse leader for next year's starting spot, but Cignetti has declared the QB race an open competition.

Redbird 4th & short
February 2nd, 2019, 11:33 AM
Houston was big time game changer for JMU jumping to next level .. if nothing else, he got players to buy in .... all in, so to speak. There is no guarantee the next guy is up to the task. Fact that this is Houston's roster and culture spilling over will certainly help the new guy. But it remains to be seen if players buy in ... all in .. like they did for Houston.

Not saying they won't be very good and contend for Natty. Also not saying new guy isnt a good hire. We just don't yet know. And with Houston nwo gone, questions still at QB and OL, combined with Colonial's quality depth in upper half of conference ... I'd say there is plenty of room for doubt.

RootinFerDukes
February 3rd, 2019, 09:24 AM
The wishful thinking about JMU is just sad from other fan bases. There comes a point when you have to look at our last 15 seasons and realize we’re more of a program, than a single coach.

Cignetti is going to win more than he loses. You can take that to the bank.

Redbird 4th & short
February 3rd, 2019, 12:50 PM
The wishful thinking about JMU is just sad from other fan bases. There comes a point when you have to look at our last 15 seasons and realize we’re more of a program, than a single coach.

Cignetti is going to win more than he loses. You can take that to the bank.
wasn't inferring you weren't a very solid propgram prior to Houston, but he clearly took it too another level IMO. Also not ruling you guys out to contend for Natty in 2019 ... you have a lot coming back. I just think there are couple hurdles to overcome. I said similar things about NDSU for 2019 ... but would never rule either JMU or NDSU out for Natty run on 2019 ... just pointing out some hurdles have to be cleared.

Besides, I have satted a few times before, when I look at teh 2010-current decade .. there are 4-5 teams that come to mind as far as program success goes: NDSU, EWU, JMU, SDSU, and maybe UNH (thogh got some help) ... I include SDSU because they had to go thru NDSU 3 different times or could have done better. Hard to include SHSU because they have collapsed most times again top teams. And then JSU has slipped in recent years.

So no disrespect meant towards JMU's program.

BisonTru
February 3rd, 2019, 05:16 PM
1. NDSU
2. Streamers should not be part of any event for someone over the age of 5
3. All purple teams choke. (Ask a Vikings fan)
4. Streamers still suck.
5. NDSU


:Dxdrunkyx

Silenoz
February 4th, 2019, 12:47 PM
Reasons 1-5:

NDSU exists

hoidOfYolen
February 4th, 2019, 02:51 PM
Reasons 1-5:

NDSU exists

Hot take: JMU will be higher ranked than NDSU at some point in the season, and will deserve it.

TheKingpin28
February 4th, 2019, 03:11 PM
Hot take: JMU will be higher ranked than NDSU at some point in the season, and will deserve it.I wouldn't call that a hot take as I expect it will happen most likely in either week 7 or 9, but week 6 could be a stumbling block with the first game if Valley play on the road. If we can solve our QB issue by the start of Valley play and he can show promise to carry the team, I will be extremely thrilled.

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