STATS Week 11 Top 25

[Professor Chaos]

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs



Rank
School
Votes
Prev


1
North Dakota State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0309) (10-0)
3875 (155)
1


2
Kennesaw State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2610) (9-1)
3677
2


3
Weber State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0119) (8-2)
3502
3


4
Eastern Washington (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0113) (8-2)
3415
5


5
South Dakota State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0312) (7-2)
3262
6


6
Jacksonville State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0247) (8-2)
2822
8


7
James Madison (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0196) (7-3)
2806
9


8
Colgate (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0160) (9-0)
2691
10


9
UC Davis (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0263) (8-2)
2635
4


10
Stony Brook (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0629) (7-3)
2379
12


11
Princeton (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0133) (9-0)
2099
13


12
North Carolina A&T (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0148) (8-2)
1989
14


13
Wofford (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0267) (7-3)
1838
15


14
Elon (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0350) (6-3)
1794
7


15
Towson (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0221) (7-3)
1784
20


16
Maine (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0203) (7-3)
1728
16


17
Delaware (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0195) (7-3)
1572
11


18
Nicholls (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0181) (7-3)
1528
17


19
ETSU (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0173) (8-2)
1315
19


20
Dartmouth (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0130) (8-1)
776
25


21
San Diego (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0169) (8-2)
495
NR


22
McNeese (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0180) (6-4)
447
18


23
Southeast Missouri State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0155) (7-3)
412
21


24
UIW (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2539) (6-4)
378
NR


25
Montana State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0117) (6-4)
152
NR



Others: Indiana State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0122) (124) , Idaho State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0115) (112) , Lamar (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2559) (99) , Alcorn State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0188) (90) , Montana (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0116) (89) , UNI (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0123) (81) , Furman (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0174) (74) , North Dakota (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0308) (72) , Monmouth (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0216) (56) , Abilene Christian (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0276) (47) , Illinois State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0121) (37) , Duquesne (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0136) (34) , Chattanooga (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0177) (25) , Western Illinois (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0126) (16) , Sam Houston State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0184) (13) , Rhode Island (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0206) (12) , Central Arkansas (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0268) (10) , Murray State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0154) (6) , Southern University (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0193) (4) , Florida A&M (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0145) (3)

[JSUSoutherner]

What a load of **** this thing is.

JSU @ 6.

UCA, SHSU, and Murray State all ORV....

[Professor Chaos]

Not as bad as the Coach's poll but still pretty bad.

JSU at 6??? Woof! San Diego (who had to squeak by freaking Davidson giving up an NCAA record amount of rushing yards) at 21??? Double woof!

[JSUSoutherner]

Not as bad as the Coach's poll but still pretty bad.

JSU at 6??? Woof! San Diego (who had to squeak by freaking Davison giving up an NCAA record amount of rushing yards) at 21??? Double woof!
Wait until we lose this week and Kennesaw starts getting 1st place votes.

[Professor Chaos]

What a load of **** this thing is.

JSU @ 6.

UCA, SHSU, and Murray State all ORV....
I am kind of looking forward to adding to my "what poll is the best playoff predictor" list next Sunday. :D

This may be the biggest beatdown by the AGS Poll yet as long as the selection committee is looking at things objectively.

[JSUSoutherner]

I am kind of looking forward to adding to my "what poll is the best playoff predictor" list next Sunday. :D

This may be the biggest beatdown by the AGS Poll yet as long as the selection committee is looking at things objectively.

To be fair, I think they're got most of the field correct. It's just the placing and the ORV section that are really making me question it.

[Professor Chaos]

To be fair, I think they're got most of the field correct. It's just the placing and the ORV section that are really making me question it.
Idk... they've got McNeese, SEMO, and UIW in as of right now. All 3 are very shaky and with as far back as they have teams like Furman and UND I doubt the slot voters in this poll will make the necessary readjustments in week 12 if they didn't make them this week.

[JSUSoutherner]

Idk... they've got McNeese, SEMO, and UIW in as of right now. All 3 are very shaky and with as far back as they have teams like Furman and UND I doubt the slot voters in this poll will make the necessary readjustments in week 12 if they didn't make them this week.
I did say "most"

[gofurman]

Idk... they've got McNeese, SEMO, and UIW in as of right now. All 3 are very shaky and with as far back as they have teams like Furman and UND I doubt the slot voters in this poll will make the necessary readjustments in week 12 if they didn't make them this week.

I can only hope STATS doesn't dictate what happens to my Furman guys with the committee ... Apparently we need to play Davidson more often ... Though I just hope we can beat Mercer and then we will see what happens

[Professor Chaos]

I can only hope STATS doesn't dictate what happens to my Furman guys with the committee ... Apparently we need to play Davidson more often ... Though I just hope we can beat Mercer and then we will see what happens
I would pay more attention to the AGS poll than that STATS poll to get a feel for that. I put together a comparison of the AGS poll alongside the two "national polls" in terms of which one best reflected the committee's choices in terms of seeds and at-large selections and AGS compared pretty favorably to both especially when it came to which polls had the most "bad misses".

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?216083-Which-poll-is-the-most-accurate-playoff-predictor

[HensRock]

CAA all messed up.
JMU over-rated.
Maine, Delaware and Towson all under-rated.
I think Elon is the 6th team in CAA

[Derby City Duke]

Not as bad as the Coach's poll but still pretty bad.

JSU at 6??? Woof! San Diego (who had to squeak by freaking Davidson giving up an NCAA record amount of rushing yards) at 21??? Double woof!

I will consider myself double-slapped for including San Diego in my poll, at 21 no less! xthumbsupx

[cx500d]

I will consider myself double-slapped for including San Diego in my poll, at 21 no less! xthumbsupx

People always bitch about San Diego being in the 20-25 slot, but the last couple years they have had impressive wins against supposedly much higher ranked teams. I think they are right in that range


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[JSUSoutherner]

People always bitch about San Diego being in the 20-25 slot, but the last couple years they have had impressive wins against supposedly much higher ranked teams. I think they are right in that range


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I have them at 23. Yeah, they have up yards, but they won. That's more than a lot of teams can say.

[cx500d]

I have them at 23. Yeah, they have up yards, but they won. That's more than a lot of teams can say.

What San Diego has going for them is great coaching.


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[polsongrizz]

I can only hope STATS doesn't dictate what happens to my Furman guys with the committee ... Apparently we need to play Davidson more often ... Though I just hope we can beat Mercer and then we will see what happens

Nothing personnel but at 5-4 you don't belong in the poll to begin with.

[FUGameBreaker]

Nothing personnel but at 5-4 you don't belong in the poll to begin with.

xrotatehx

Who is in your top 25 ahead of Furman?

[dewey]

Nothing personnel but at 5-4 you don't belong in the poll to begin with.

Please post your top 25.

Dewey

[dewey]

Here is the top 25 poll from Fargo Forum sports guru Jeff Kolpack.

https://www.bisonmediazone.com/the-word-has-come-alive-in-fcs-football/

JEFF KOLPACK NOVEMBER 12, 2018
This FCS poll is getting to be a bloodbath. Consistency has been an issue this year in the STATS.com top 25 media poll. You want parity in the FCS? You got it. Other than NDSU, everybody else has been taking turns losing an unexpected game. For the first time, I’ve put The Incarnate Word in my poll vote. That’s a good story. When The Word came to NDSU for ESPN GameDay in 2014, it was a brutal program just trying to get going. The growth has been impressive.

North Dakota State (10-0)
South Dakota State (7-2)
Weber State (8-2)
Eastern Washington (8-2)
Kennesaw State (9-1)
James Madison (7-3)
Colgate (9-0)
UC Davis (8-2)
Stony Brook (7-3)
Wofford (7-3)
Towson (7-3)
Elon (6-3)
Maine (7-3)
East Tennessee State (8-2)
Jacksonville State (8-2)
Princeton (9-0)
Delaware (7-3)
Nicholls (7-3)
Incarnate Word (6-4)
Indiana State (6-4)
North Carolina A&T (8-2)
Southeast Missouri State (7-3)
Montana State (6-4)
McNeese (6-4)
Western Illinois (5-5)

Dewey

[JSUSoutherner]

What San Diego has going for them is great coaching.


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Agree, they may not have the most talent but they always play hard.

[dewey]

Here is the top 25 from WDAY (Fargo TV) sports reporter and Bison Media Blog's Dom Izzo.

https://www.bisonmediazone.com/doms-fcs-poll-thru-week-11-5/

DOM IZZO NOVEMBER 12, 2018
A disastrous week for the Missouri Valley Football Conference has resulted in chaos in the poll. I’m not quite sure how the committee is going to fill out spots 20-24 in the bracket, just because it was tough to fill out the last few teams in this week’s poll.

Have a look at this week’s poll, it’s a doozy.

North Dakota State (10-0, beat Missouri State) Previous: 1
Kennesaw State (9-1, beat Monmouth) *Non D1 win Previous: 3
Weber State (8-2, beat Southern Utah) Previous: 4
Eastern Washington (8-2, beat UC Davis) *Non D1 win Previous: 8
South Dakota State (7-2, beat Southern Illinois) Previous: 6
Colgate (9-0, beat Lehigh) Previous: 5
James Madison (7-3, beat Rhode Island) Previous: 10
Jacksonville State (8-2, beat Tennessee State) Previous: 14
East Tennessee State (8-2, bye week) *Non D1 win Previous: 13
UC Davis (8-2, lost to Eastern Washington) *FBS win Previous: 2
North Carolina A&T (8-2, beat Savannah State) *FBS win Previous: 12
Stony Brook (7-3, beat Delaware) Previous: 19
Delaware (7-3, lost to Stony Brook) Previous: 7
Towson (7-3, beat Elon) Previous: 18
Elon (6-3, lost to Towson) Previous: 9
Princeton (9-0, beat Yale) Previous: 16
Maine (7-3, beat Richmond) *FBS win Previous: 17
Wofford (7-3, beat Western Carolina) Previous: 15
Nicholls (7-3, beat Stephen F Austin) *FBS win Previous: 22
Incarnate Word (6-4, beat Central Arkansas) Previous: NR
Southeast Missouri State (7-3, lost to Murray State) Previous: 11
Indiana State (6-4, beat Illinois State) *Non D1 win Previous: NR
Montana State (6-4, beat Northern Colorado) Previous: NR
San Diego (8-2, beat Davidson) *Non D1 win Previous: NR
North Dakota (6-4, beat Portland State) Previous: NR

Dewey

[JSUSoutherner]

Here is the top 25 from WDAY (Fargo TV) sports reporter and Bison Media Blog's Dom Izzo.

https://www.bisonmediazone.com/doms-fcs-poll-thru-week-11-5/

DOM IZZO NOVEMBER 12, 2018
A disastrous week for the Missouri Valley Football Conference has resulted in chaos in the poll. I’m not quite sure how the committee is going to fill out spots 20-24 in the bracket, just because it was tough to fill out the last few teams in this week’s poll.

Have a look at this week’s poll, it’s a doozy.

North Dakota State (10-0, beat Missouri State) Previous: 1
Kennesaw State (9-1, beat Monmouth) *Non D1 win Previous: 3
Weber State (8-2, beat Southern Utah) Previous: 4
Eastern Washington (8-2, beat UC Davis) *Non D1 win Previous: 8
South Dakota State (7-2, beat Southern Illinois) Previous: 6
Colgate (9-0, beat Lehigh) Previous: 5
James Madison (7-3, beat Rhode Island) Previous: 10
Jacksonville State (8-2, beat Tennessee State) Previous: 14
East Tennessee State (8-2, bye week) *Non D1 win Previous: 13
UC Davis (8-2, lost to Eastern Washington) *FBS win Previous: 2
North Carolina A&T (8-2, beat Savannah State) *FBS win Previous: 12
Stony Brook (7-3, beat Delaware) Previous: 19
Delaware (7-3, lost to Stony Brook) Previous: 7
Towson (7-3, beat Elon) Previous: 18
Elon (6-3, lost to Towson) Previous: 9
Princeton (9-0, beat Yale) Previous: 16
Maine (7-3, beat Richmond) *FBS win Previous: 17
Wofford (7-3, beat Western Carolina) Previous: 15
Nicholls (7-3, beat Stephen F Austin) *FBS win Previous: 22
Incarnate Word (6-4, beat Central Arkansas) Previous: NR
Southeast Missouri State (7-3, lost to Murray State) Previous: 11
Indiana State (6-4, beat Illinois State) *Non D1 win Previous: NR
Montana State (6-4, beat Northern Colorado) Previous: NR
San Diego (8-2, beat Davidson) *Non D1 win Previous: NR
North Dakota (6-4, beat Portland State) Previous: NR

Dewey
I'd like to hear his reasoning for some of these

[dewey]

I'd like to hear his reasoning for some of theseYeah. NC A&T, JSU, ETSU, Kennesaw State and Maine are a few that jumped out at me right away.

Dewey

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[TheKingpin28]

I'd like to hear his reasoning for some of these

He has gotten some crap from Bison fans lately, whether it is deserved or not, I am not sure. Him picking ISUr over NDSU was one of his gaffes. I could be wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that he was called UNDs (GFCC) lap dog.

[Professor Chaos]

He has gotten some crap from Bison fans lately, whether it is deserved or not, I am not sure. Him picking ISUr over NDSU was one of his gaffes. I could be wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that he was called UNDs (GFCC) lap dog.
I think Dom is biased towards UND, just like he's biased towards NDSU, because he covers them (to a lesser extent than he covers NDSU but he still covers them) so he has personal relationships with a lot of people on UND's payroll and in the media in Grand Forks.

I also think he and Jeremy Jorgenson are similar in that they both consider themselves plugged in nationally to the FCS scene but they don't allow their opinions to be challenged. I see both of them with some very inconsistent rationale when it comes to ranking teams. I appreciate the fact that they make the effort but I think they'd both be a lot better if they participated in open forums like this one to help in their research.

[TheKingpin28]

I think Dom is biased towards UND, just like he's biased towards NDSU, because he covers them (to a lesser extent than he covers NDSU but he still covers them) so he has personal relationships with a lot of people on UND's payroll and in the media in Grand Forks.

I also think he and Jeremy Jorgenson are similar in that they both consider themselves plugged in nationally to the FCS scene but they don't allow their opinions to be challenged. I see both of them with some very inconsistent rationale when it comes to ranking teams. I appreciate the fact that they make the effort but I think they'd both be a lot better if they participated in open forums like this one to help in their research.

Look at how much better our individual polls look compared to their individual ones. I feel like the "Stats Media" poll would be better if these voters had a weekly forum where they answered questions as to why certain teams are where. The thing about this is, these men and women get paid to put out a bad poll with no recourse vs us at AGS who do it for free and take time to defend our positions. I get why Dom is biased towards NDSU, even after that gaffe of Forum Media and Bison Athletics, but at some point, IMO, if he wants the respect that comes with being vested in the national landscape, he should do a better job of defending his position instead of just throwing random teams into 25 spots.

[Professor Chaos]

Look at how much better our individual polls look compared to their individual ones. I feel like the "Stats Media" poll would be better if these voters had a weekly forum where they answered questions as to why certain teams are where. The thing about this is, these men and women get paid to put out a bad poll with no recourse vs us at AGS who do it for free and take time to defend our positions. I get why Dom is biased towards NDSU, even after that gaffe of Forum Media and Bison Athletics, but at some point, IMO, if he wants the respect that comes with being vested in the national landscape, he should do a better job of defending his position instead of just throwing random teams into 25 spots.
It would be but these guys aren't really paid to do this type of thing so it's tough to get them to put a ton of effort into it I think. At least Dom posts his ballot online even if he doesn't really seriously consider the feedback he gets, that's more than most of the STATS voters do.

[TheKingpin28]

It would be but these guys aren't really paid to do this type of thing so it's tough to get them to put a ton of effort into it I think. At least Dom posts his ballot online even if he doesn't really seriously consider the feedback he gets, that's more than most of the STATS voters do.

What I mean by paid, is they write for their local media and get selected to do this, so it would be nice to see them put a little more effort into voting for something they should know more about than the average joe.

[FCSbuff319]

While watching McNeese State lose to yet another subpar team in the Southland, I told myself there's still NO WAY the always predictable STATS poll leaves them out of the top 25. Looks like I was right.

After McNeese State lost to BYU, they fell to #10 in the STATS poll. Here is their performance since that game:

7 point win over now 2-7 Stephen F. Austin
3 point win over now 6-4 Abilene Christian
28 point loss to now 6-4 Incarnate Word
2 point win over now 5-5 Central Arkansas
17 point loss to now 4-6 Southeastern Louisiana
2 point loss to now 4-6 Northwestern State

That's a pretty terrible slate of games for any team. Yet, even after all that, they're STILL RANKED #22. One of the worst examples of slot voting you'll ever see.

[Professor Chaos]

While watching McNeese State lose to yet another subpar team in the Southland, I told myself there's still NO WAY the always predictable STATS poll leaves them out of the top 25. Looks like I was right.

After McNeese State lost to BYU, they fell to #10 in the STATS poll. Here is their performance since that game:

7 point win over now 2-7 Stephen F. Austin
3 point win over now 6-4 Abilene Christian
28 point loss to now 6-4 Incarnate Word
2 point win over now 5-5 Central Arkansas
17 point loss to now 4-6 Southeastern Louisiana
2 point loss to now 4-6 Northwestern State

That's a pretty terrible slate of games for any team. Yet, even after all that, they're STILL RANKED #22. One of the worst examples of slot voting you'll ever see.
I don't even know if you can call it slot voting anymore at this point. That's an affront to slot voters everywhere. I'd call it **** voting.