AGS Poll Results - WEEK 10 POLL - 2018 SEASON

[AGSPoll]

11/5/2018



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes
Previous Wk.


1
North Dakota State Bison
2150
86
1


2
UC Davis Aggies
2027

3


3
Kennesaw State Owls
1893

4


4
Weber State Wildcats
1838

5


5
Eastern Washington Eagles
1787

6


6
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1746

7


7
Elon Phoenix
1606

8


8
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
1538

10


9
Colgate Raiders
1452

12


10
James Madison Dukes
1378

2


11
Stony Brook Seawolves
1173

13


12
Princeton Tigers
1088

15


13
Maine Black Bears
972

22


14
Idaho State Bengals
871

17


15
Towson Tigers
851

11


16
Wofford Terriers
782

9


17
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
704

18


18
Northern Iowa Panthers
684

24


19
Nicholls State Colonels
673

20


20
East Tennessee State Buccaneers
498

25


21
Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
446

28


22
Dartmouth Big Green
365

19


23
Western Illinois Leathernecks
313

29


24
North Carolina A&T Aggies
302

26


25
McNeese State Cowboys
224

16

















ORV:





26
Illinois State Redbirds
218

14


27
Samford Bulldogs
111

34


28
Rhode Island Rams
55

27


29
Monmouth Hawks
37

33


30
Furman Paladins
30

NR


31
Lamar Cardinals
26

NR


32
Indiana State Sycamores
22

NR


33
Central Arkansas Bears
20

23


34
Incarnate Word Cardinals
17

NR


35
San Diego Toreros
16

35


36
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
15

21


37
Chattanooga Mocs
12

30


38
Montana State Bobcats
5

NR


39
Abilene Christian Wildcats
4

36


40
Yale Bulldogs
1

NR










Most Significant Win:

Maine Black Bears




Most Significant Loss:

James Madison Dukes

























Fell Out Of Poll:





31
Florida A&M Rattlers





32
Sam Houston State Bearkats

[Professor Chaos]

Here's this week's Wedge article on the poll: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-10-top-25-results/

A few thoughts:

I think we're sleeping on Samford. They've won 4 straight and just beat #17 Wofford pretty handily. I think they should be the highest ranked SOCON team right now.
Pretty rough treatment for Illinois St dropping 700+ points and 12 spots. I realize they're on a 3 game losing streak but how many other teams ranked in that 20-25 range would you expect to do any better with a 3 game stretch of at #1 NDSU, vs #6 SDSU, and at #18 UNI?
The relative placement of Towson and Stony Brook is a little strange. Stony Brook's best win is against #28 URI and they lost to Towon by 24. Both teams are 6-3 (4-2) in the CAA yet Stony Brook is ranked 4 spots in front of Towson. Again I think Towson is getting punished for a 2 game losing streak when that 2 game stretch (at #8 Delaware and vs #13 Maine - both one score games btw) would've been pretty tough for anyone.

[JSUSoutherner]

1. NDSU
2. UC Davis
3. Weber
4. South Dakota State
5. Kennesaw
6. Eastern Washington
7. Colgate
8. Elon
9. Delaware
10. James Madison
11. Stony Brook
12. Princeton
13. Idaho State
14. Northern Iowa
15. Jacksonville State
16. Maine
17. Wofford
18. Towson
19. Nicholls
20. ETSU
21. WIU
22. NC A&T
23. SEMO
24. Monmouth
25. Rhode Island

[Professor Chaos]

Here's my poll ballot:

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Delaware Fightin Blue Hens
4: Kennessaw State Owls
5: Elon Phoenix
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Colgate Raiders
9: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
10: Towson Tigers
11: James Madison Dukes
12: Stony Brook Seawolves
13: Idaho State Bengals
14: Princeton Tigers
15: Maine Black Bears
16: Nicholls State Colonels
17: Dartmouth Big Green
18: Western Illinois Leathernecks
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Illinois State Redbirds
21: Samford Bulldogs
22: Wofford Terriers
23: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
24: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
25: Jacksonville State Gamecocks

I did some re-evaluating in my top 10 this week. I changed my mind on Weber a gave them a good bump and I'm obviously high on Delaware as well as the top CAA team right now.

[WileECoyote06]

Y’all were brutal with Illinois State. Whew.

[RootinFerDukes]

We are not a top 10 team and Kennessaw sure as hell isn't a top 3 team.

[clenz]

They aren't good.

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[mainejeff]

Here's this week's Wedge article on the poll: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-9-top-25-results/

A few thoughts:

I think we're sleeping on Samford. They've won 4 straight and just beat #17 Wofford pretty handily. I think they should be the highest ranked SOCON team right now.
Pretty rough treatment for Illinois St dropping 700+ points and 12 spots. I realize they're on a 3 game losing streak but how many other teams ranked in that 20-25 range would you expect to do any better with a 3 game stretch of at #1 NDSU, vs #6 SDSU, and at #18 UNI?
The relative placement of Towson and Stony Brook is a little strange. Stony Brook's best win is against #28 URI and they lost to Towon by 24. Both teams are 6-3 (4-2) in the CAA yet Stony Brook is ranked 4 spots in front of Towson. Again I think Towson is getting punished for a 2 game losing streak when that 2 game stretch (at #8 Delaware and vs #13 Maine - both one score games btw) would've been pretty tough for anyone.



I think that voters got the placement of Delaware, JMU, Maine and Towson just about right. Elon & Stony Brook are too high. I would have placed Delaware ahead of Elon. And Stony Brook would be behind Maine & Towson. Great overall poll as usual though!

[mainejeff]

Here's my poll ballot:

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Delaware Fightin Blue Hens
4: Kennessaw State Owls
5: Elon Phoenix
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Colgate Raiders
9: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
10: Towson Tigers
11: James Madison Dukes
12: Stony Brook Seawolves
13: Idaho State Bengals
14: Princeton Tigers
15: Maine Black Bears
16: Nicholls State Colonels
17: Dartmouth Big Green
18: Western Illinois Leathernecks
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Illinois State Redbirds
21: Samford Bulldogs
22: Wofford Terriers
23: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
24: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
25: Jacksonville State Gamecocks

I did some re-evaluating in my top 10 this week. I changed my mind on Weber a gave them a good bump and I'm obviously high on Delaware as well as the top CAA team right now.

Towson at #10 and Maine at #15? Your hatred runs deep.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

my streak of 5+ years has ended. i forgot :(

[dbackjon]

1. NDSU
2. UC Davis
3. Weber
4. South Dakota State
5. Kennesaw
6. Eastern Washington
7. Colgate
8. Elon
9. Delaware
10. James Madison
11. Stony Brook
12. Princeton
13. Idaho State
14. Northern Iowa
15. Jacksonville State
16. Maine
17. Wofford
18. Towson
19. Nicholls
20. ETSU
21. WIU
22. NC A&T
23. SEMO
24. Monmouth
25. Rhode Island

That gap between JSU and SEMO is huge. If anything, it should be flipped. Not sure how anyone can justify ranking JSU over SEMO, let alone by 8 spots.

[JSUSoutherner]

That gap between JSU and SEMO is huge. If anything, it should be flipped. Not sure how anyone can justify ranking JSU over SEMO, let alone by 8 spots.

Probably because SEMO isn't as good as JSU?

[Professor Chaos]

Towson at #10 and Maine at #15? Your hatred runs deep.
xlolx

I just don't like those Yale and W&M losses. In retrospect I probably should've been a little tougher on Stony Brook and put Maine in front of them but as for right now I'm comfortable with still putting Towson in front of Maine. If you want to call that "hate" so be it.

[mainejeff]

xlolx

I just don't like those Yale and W&M losses. In retrospect I probably should've been a little tougher on Stony Brook and put Maine in front of them but as for right now I'm comfortable with still putting Towson in front of Maine. If you want to call that "hate" so be it.

Yup....I'll call it hate.

[dewey]

xlolx

I just don't like those Yale and W&M losses. In retrospect I probably should've been a little tougher on Stony Brook and put Maine in front of them but as for right now I'm comfortable with still putting Towson in front of Maine. If you want to call that "hate" so be it.

I would 100% agree with you PC. It is the total resume and not just a head to head to prove where teams should be ranked. The Yale and W&M losses are BAD.

Dewey

[dewey]

Here is my poll.

Hello dewey,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/4/2018 21:06:00

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Weber State Wildcats
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Kennesaw State Owls
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
8: Elon Phoenix
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: Colgate Raiders
11: James Madison Dukes
12: Idaho State Bengals
13: Princeton Tigers
14: Dartmouth Big Green
15: Maine Black Bears
16: Towson Tigers
17: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
18: Northern Iowa Panthers
19: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
20: Wofford Terriers
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: Nicholls State Colonels
23: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
24: North Carolina A&T Aggies
25: Western Illinois Leathernecks

dewey

The Most Significant Win: Elon Phoenix
The Most Significant Loss: James Madison Dukes
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

Dewey

[Professor]

This poll is hilarious

[ElCid]

xlolx

I just don't like those Yale and W&M losses. In retrospect I probably should've been a little tougher on Stony Brook and put Maine in front of them but as for right now I'm comfortable with still putting Towson in front of Maine. If you want to call that "hate" so be it.


Me neither. The Yale loss was one, call it a gimme, but when they lost to W&M, I had to take a little breath. A little inconsistent for them to be much higher. I probably have them too high.

[mainejeff]

I would 100% agree with you PC. It is the total resume and not just a head to head to prove where teams should be ranked. The Yale and W&M losses are BAD.

Dewey

See JMU.

Does Maine get credit for good wins or is that just reserved for everyone else in the poll?

[Professor Chaos]

See JMU.

Does Maine get credit for good wins or is that just reserved for everyone else in the poll?
They'd be a lot lower than 13th if they weren't.

[Bison56]

This poll is hilarious

Care to elaborate?

[dbackjon]

Probably because SEMO isn't as good as JSU?

Southeast Missouri 37
Jacksonville State 14

You were saying?

SEMO PROVED they are far better than JSU. No doubt about it.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

If I submitted a Poll

1. North Dakota State
2. UC Davis
3. Weber State
4. Kennesaw State
5. South Dakota State
6. Eastern Washington
7. Elon
8. Colgate
9. Delaware
10. Princeton
11. Maine
12. Stony Brook
13. Nicholls State
14. James Madison
15. Dartmouth
16. North Carolina A&T
17. Wofford
18. East Tennessee State
19. Towson
20. Idaho State
21. Southeast Missouri State
22. Jacksonville State
23. Yale
24. McNeese State
25. San Diego

Most Significant Win: Princeton
Most Significant Loss: Illinois State

[dbackjon]

In addition, the next week SEMO destroyed UTM 56-33 at UTM. JSU the next week needed a last minute touchdown to beat UTM at HOME

[JSUSoutherner]

Southeast Missouri 37
Jacksonville State 14

You were saying?

SEMO PROVED they are far better than JSU. No doubt about it.

Purdue better than Ohio State. No doubt about it.

South Dakota should have been in Frisco in 2015.



I know you probably spend hours each week watching the awesome spectacle that is OVC football so just keep in mind, upsets happen. Even to Ol Jax State.

[mainejeff]

They'd be a lot lower than 13th if they weren't.

I'm talking about NDSU voters who hate Maine......not the rest.

[Bison56]

I'm talking about NDSU voters who hate Maine......not the rest.

Why do NDSU voters hate Maine?

Funny how many come out of the woods after a couple wins.

[JSUSoutherner]

In addition, the next week SEMO destroyed UTM 56-33 at UTM. JSU the next week needed a last minute touchdown to beat UTM at HOME

And we beat EKU 56-7 and SEMO lost to them.

What's your point?

Transistive property is worth exactly nothing.

[Derby City Duke]

See JMU.

Does Maine get credit for good wins or is that just reserved for everyone else in the poll?
,
FWIW, I dropped JMU completely out of my poll (I won't get my email from ursus until tomorrow late, if at all since he had a question and I didn't see it until just now). They aren't playoff worthy IMO.

[Bohcat]

Before I ask this question I want to say that I do not think that Montana State is a Top #25 team but I am curious as to the approach and thinking of why people are ranking Western Illinois over Montana State.

Both teams have 5-4 records.

Montana State has 4 loses to 4th,5th,6th and 14th ranked teams. And one win over a Top 25 team - Western Illinois (23rd)

Western Illinois has lost to FBS Illinois, #1 NDSU, Illinois State (NR) and Montana State (NR). And one win over a Top 25 team - Northern Iowa (18th)

Not that it really matters in the scheme of national importance, but why rank Western Illinois but not rank Montana State or why rank Western Illinois higher than Montana State?

[Professor Chaos]

Why do NDSU voters hate Maine?

Funny how many come out of the woods after a couple wins.
If we hate Maine I can't imagine the word you'd have to use to describe our feelings towards Yale. Let me go see if I can find something on Thesaurus.com..... I'll be back!

[mainejeff]

Why do NDSU voters hate Maine?

Funny how many come out of the woods after a couple wins.

Is it my right to become interested in my team toward the end of the season if they are in contention? I didn't know that this board and poll were just reserved for Bison fans. My bad.

Prof Chaos only dropped Towson from 7th to 10th.....he must really respect Maine despite giving them little credit.xpeacex

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,
FWIW, I dropped JMU completely out of my poll (I won't get my email from ursus until tomorrow late, if at all since he had a question and I didn't see it until just now). They aren't playoff worthy IMO.

That's a bit harsh. JMU is still talented and a Top 15 team IMO.

[mainejeff]

If we hate Maine I can't imagine the word you'd have to use to describe our feelings towards Yale. Let me go see if I can find something on Thesaurus.com..... I'll be back!

Nah.....just explain that if Maine is so bad then why did you only drop Towson 3 spots from #7 to #10 after the Tigers lost to horrible Maine at home. Cheers!

[McNeese72]

How in the hell are any Southland teams in this poll???? None of them deserve it.

Doc

[Derby City Duke]

That's a bit harsh. JMU is still talented and a Top 15 team IMO.


Fetal: the position assumed by the JMU offense when faced with a real defense.

The QB room is in disarray -- DiNucci has not gotten better; Johnson was supposed to take a redshirt, with Moloney being the back-up. Yet there was Johnson taking snaps against UNH. I checked and Moloney is still listed on the JMU roster, so who know what's going on there.

[JSUSoutherner]

How in the hell are any Southland teams in this poll???? None of them deserve it.

Doc

Nicholls has beat Lamar, Sam Houston, IW, and Kansas.

I'd say that keeps them in for now.

[Missingnumber7]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: UC Davis Aggies
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Kennesaw State Owls
6: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Weber State Wildcats
9: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
10: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
11: Nicholls State Colonels
12: Stony Brook Seawolves
13: Colgate Raiders
14: Northern Iowa Panthers
15: James Madison Dukes
16: Maine Black Bears
17: Idaho State Bengals
18: Towson Tigers
19: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
20: Wofford Terriers
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: North Carolina A&T Aggies
23: Western Illinois Leathernecks
24: San Diego Toreros
25: Incarnate Word Cardinals

Before everyone flames away let me clarify that I dont vote for Ivys because they dont participate in the playoffs.

[JSUSoutherner]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: UC Davis Aggies
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Kennesaw State Owls
6: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Weber State Wildcats
9: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
10: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
11: Nicholls State Colonels
12: Stony Brook Seawolves
13: Colgate Raiders
14: Northern Iowa Panthers
15: James Madison Dukes
16: Maine Black Bears
17: Idaho State Bengals
18: Towson Tigers
19: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
20: Wofford Terriers
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: North Carolina A&T Aggies
23: Western Illinois Leathernecks
24: San Diego Toreros
25: Incarnate Word Cardinals

Before everyone flames away let me clarify that I dont vote for Ivys because they dont participate in the playoffs.


SEMO AND JSU AT 9 AND 10. WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING, GUY?

[McNeese72]

Nicholls has beat Lamar, Sam Houston, IW, and Kansas.

I'd say that keeps them in for now.

And they lost to McNeese and ACU. And a so so Tulane team.

Doc

[POD Knows]

I'm talking about NDSU voters who hate Maine......not the rest.
Don’t hate Maine but I have no time for you.

[Daytripper]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: Weber State Wildcats
5: Elon Phoenix
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
8: Colgate Raiders
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
11: James Madison Dukes
12: Princeton Tigers
13: Idaho State Bengals
14: Maine Black Bears
15: Towson Tigers
16: Nicholls State Colonels
17: Northern Iowa Panthers
18: Dartmouth Big Green
19: Wofford Terriers
20: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
21: Lamar Cardinals
22: Rhode Island Rams
23: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
24: McNeese State Cowboys
25: Monmouth Hawks

[Gil Dobie]

I'm talking about NDSU voters who hate Maine......not the rest.

13th too high. xnodx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

my streak of 5+ years has ended. i forgot :(

Well lucky for you the foresight to cast a ballot in the preseason poll will give you the one mulligan to still stretch out the year 6 perfection if you don't mess up again.

[Prime Power]

Probably because SEMO isn't as good as JSU?


Apparently neither is NC A&T? Funny how you have the two teams that beat JSU at 22 and 23 yet have JSU as a top 15 5eam. Just proves to me that when JSU plays any top 25 team they lose. Also, needing a last second TD to beat a 1-7 team is pretty bleh. I have them ranked, but SEMO deserves to be ahead of them with identical records and the H2H victory.

[Bisonator]

I'm talking about NDSU voters who hate Maine......not the rest.
I'm not a voter but I still hate Maine. :D

[Daytripper]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: UC Davis Aggies
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Kennesaw State Owls
6: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Weber State Wildcats
9: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
10: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
11: Nicholls State Colonels
12: Stony Brook Seawolves
13: Colgate Raiders
14: Northern Iowa Panthers
15: James Madison Dukes
16: Maine Black Bears
17: Idaho State Bengals
18: Towson Tigers
19: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
20: Wofford Terriers
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: North Carolina A&T Aggies
23: Western Illinois Leathernecks
24: San Diego Toreros
25: Incarnate Word Cardinals

Before everyone flames away let me clarify that I dont vote for Ivys because they dont participate in the playoffs.


If you wish to put a Southland team at #25, I would think Lamar is a better choice. But that is just me.

[Bison56]

Don’t hate Maine but I have no time for you.

Its obvious who hates who on the thread.

[Daytripper]

And they lost to McNeese and ACU. And a so so Tulane team.

Doc

Tulane is middle of the pack P5. That kind of loss should not be held against an fcs team.

[Professor Chaos]

Apparently neither is NC A&T? Funny how you have the two teams that beat JSU at 22 and 23 yet have JSU as a top 15 5eam. Just proves to me that when JSU plays any top 25 team they lose. Also, needing a last second TD to beat a 1-7 team is pretty bleh. I have them ranked, but SEMO deserves to be ahead of them with identical records and the H2H victory.
What's more ridiculous is the STATS poll which has JSU at #8 and the Coach's poll which has them at #9. If the selection committee has them anywhere close to a seed right now that would be ridiculous. They have 1 win against a team with a winning record and that's Eastern Kentucky. At least they have that regular season finale against Kennesaw that will either expose them or prove those voters right who keep propping them up in the rankings despite an incredibly shaky resume.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I'm talking about NDSU voters who hate Maine......not the rest.

You're talking bull**** that doesn't hold any sort of water is what you are doing with that line. Every time somebody has a higher opinion of their own team than the voters do you see really dumb conspiracy talk like this and then normally when the playoffs start the shut up real quick once it's all over. You could be the exception.

[Prime Power]

What's more ridiculous is the STATS poll which has JSU at #8 and the Coach's poll which has them at #9. If the selection committee has them anywhere close to a seed right now that would be ridiculous. They have 1 win against a team with a winning record and that's Eastern Kentucky. At least they have that regular season finale against Kennesaw that will either expose them or prove those voters right who keep propping them up in the rankings despite an incredibly shaky resume.

With the Kennesaw game, who is to say that proves anything? Proves that whoever wins it might be good? I really don't think that even if JSU wins it proves they are good, just proves KSU is overrated or if KSU wins proves that JSU is not that good like a lot of people think and KSU might still be overrated...probably wont know until the playoffs, but we all know what happens when JSU is in the playoffs.....KSU at least did something last year in the playoffs.

[JSUSoutherner]

Apparently neither is NC A&T? Funny how you have the two teams that beat JSU at 22 and 23 yet have JSU as a top 15 5eam. Just proves to me that when JSU plays any top 25 team they lose. Also, needing a last second TD to beat a 1-7 team is pretty bleh. I have them ranked, but SEMO deserves to be ahead of them with identical records and the H2H victory.
I can see an argument for those who wish to place SEMO above us (though) I may disagree. However, A&T lost their chance to stay above us when they lost to Morgan State and FAMU.

[Prime Power]

I'm talking about NDSU voters who hate Maine......not the rest.


I have no reason to hate Maine or any team for that matter, but you are sure working on it.

[Catbooster]

Not real happy with this - still need to move a few teams I think, but hopefully things will start clearing up. I started from scratch this week and it seems most of the conferences are a circle of teams who have beat each other.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Kennesaw State Owls
6: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Elon Phoenix
9: Colgate Raiders
10: Maine Black Bears
11: James Madison Dukes
12: Towson Tigers
13: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
14: Idaho State Bengals
15: Northern Iowa Panthers
16: Lamar Cardinals
17: Stony Brook Seawolves
18: Western Illinois Leathernecks
19: Nicholls State Colonels
20: Princeton Tigers
21: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
22: Samford Bulldogs
23: Rhode Island Rams
24: McNeese State Cowboys
25: Wofford Terriers

Catbooster

The Most Significant Win: Maine Black Bears
The Most Significant Loss: Illinois State Redbirds
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Big Sky Conference

[Go...gate]

Well lucky for you the foresight to cast a ballot in the preseason poll will give you the one mulligan to still stretch out the year 6 perfection if you don't mess up again.

Good stuff, Go Lehigh TU owl. Your streak continues!

[Prime Power]

I can see an argument for those who wish to place SEMO above us (though) I may disagree. However, A&T lost their chance to stay above us when they lost to Morgan State and FAMU.

Agree with that, just using it as a point. I have A&T below you.

[FUGameBreaker]

Thank you for considering Furman in your rankings this week AGS crowd, its appreciated xthumbsupx

[kdinva]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Kennesaw State Owls
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: UC Davis Aggies
5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
8: Elon Phoenix
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Wofford Terriers
11: Stony Brook Seawolves
12: Colgate Raiders
13: Princeton Tigers
14: Maine Black Bears
15: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
16: Towson Tigers
17: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
18: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
19: Idaho State Bengals
20: McNeese State Cowboys
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: Nicholls State Colonels
23: North Carolina A&T Aggies
24: Dartmouth Big Green
25: Western Illinois Leathernecks



The Most Significant Win: Maine Black Bears
The Most Significant Loss: Central Arkansas Bears

[TheKingpin28]

I'm talking about NDSU voters who hate Maine......not the rest.Is this guy for real? Where have you been all season? Most of us who vote in the poll, are seasoned voters and do not hate any specific team when it comes to voting (supposedly I hate all things SHSU though) so if you honestly think that, you have a lot of learning to do.

I forgot how much fun the Novembrists can be. They are only to be out done by the Decembrists.

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[Preferred Walk-On]

Towson at #10 and Maine at #15? Your hatred runs deep.


xlolx

I just don't like those Yale and W&M losses. In retrospect I probably should've been a little tougher on Stony Brook and put Maine in front of them but as for right now I'm comfortable with still putting Towson in front of Maine. If you want to call that "hate" so be it.

Given the pro-Towson posts over the past many weeks by the Professor, I think it is more "love" for Towson than "hate" for Maine. Both are good teams. Can one of them be great...especially when they are expected to be?

[dewey]

I'm talking about NDSU voters who hate Maine......not the rest.

The question I would ask is why do you think we (NDSU fans) hate Maine? Is there an intense rivalry with NDSU? Just because someone doesn't agree with your opinion of Main doesn't mean they hate Maine.

I have no issues with constructive criticism from folks on my top 25 poll. I personally have no bias towards Main one way or the other. As I have said the last two days I have issues with their resume which includes two really bad losses to Yale (35-14) and W&M (27-20). Maine has 2 good wins (13-10 over Villanova...not looking so good right now due to Villanova's wows lately and the impressive win over Towson).

Where is your top 25 poll? It is pretty easy to criticize someone else's poll if you haven't posted your own.

Dewey

[dbackjon]

And we beat EKU 56-7 and SEMO lost to them.

What's your point?

Transistive property is worth exactly nothing.

Early games mean less. It is how the teams are playing NOW. And clearly SEMO is playing better NOW than JSU.

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[Professor Chaos]

With the Kennesaw game, who is to say that proves anything? Proves that whoever wins it might be good? I really don't think that even if JSU wins it proves they are good, just proves KSU is overrated or if KSU wins proves that JSU is not that good like a lot of people think and KSU might still be overrated...probably wont know until the playoffs, but we all know what happens when JSU is in the playoffs.....KSU at least did something last year in the playoffs.
I'd agree that even with a win over Kennesaw that JSU shouldn't be seeded but at least then they'd have some win... any win... over a quality team. You can claim Kennesaw St is overrated right now and they may be based on the fact that they haven't played much anyone of note but they're, at the very least, a quality team which is something JSU doesn't have a win over yet this year.

[Bison56]

I'd agree that even with a win over Kennesaw that JSU probably shouldn't be seeded but at least then they'd have some win... any win... over a quality team. You can claim Kennesaw St is overrated right now and they may be based on the fact that they haven't played much anyone of note but they're, at the very least, a quality team which is something JSU doesn't have a win over yet this year.

KSU isn't squeaking out wins against terrible teams either like JSU. KSU is dominating them.

[ST_Lawson]

Before I ask this question I want to say that I do not think that Montana State is a Top #25 team but I am curious as to the approach and thinking of why people are ranking Western Illinois over Montana State.

Both teams have 5-4 records.

Montana State has 4 loses to 4th,5th,6th and 14th ranked teams. And one win over a Top 25 team - Western Illinois (23rd)

Western Illinois has lost to FBS Illinois, #1 NDSU, Illinois State (NR) and Montana State (NR). And one win over a Top 25 team - Northern Iowa (18th)

Not that it really matters in the scheme of national importance, but why rank Western Illinois but not rank Montana State or why rank Western Illinois higher than Montana State?

I don't vote, but a few possibilities:
Both are 5-4, but according to Massey, for games already played, WIU's SoS is 2nd, Montana State's is 12.
Our game was over 2 months ago, was only a 3 point difference, at Montana State, and was our HC's first game as a head coach. I'm not trying to make excuses, we lost that game...no argument there. I think it's just that most of the voters are saying that if WIU and MSU met up today, on a neutral field, most think that WIU would pull out the win.
WIU has a better record over the last 3, 4, 5 weeks, so maybe it's also a bit of "what have you done for me lately".

I'm not saying they're right, idk the answer to that, I haven't been looking that closely at MSU since the first few weeks of the season. I'm just putting out a few ideas that might answer your question as to why.

[dewey]

Thank you for considering Furman in your rankings this week AGS crowd, its appreciated xthumbsupx

Please post your top 25 poll.

As for me not having Furman ranked.

Good wins and bad losses (Furman 4-4 with FBS loss)
Elon L 45-7 (The loss isn't so bad as it was by 38 points)
ETSU L (29-27)
Wofford W (34-14 that is a very good win)
Samford L 38-25 (2 score loss to a mediocre Samford team that is now playing better)

1 good win and 3 bad losses does not equal top 25 to me IMHO.

Dewey

[KPSUL]

Why do NDSU voters hate Maine?

Funny how many come out of the woods after a couple wins.

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[JSUSoutherner]

Early games mean less. It is how the teams are playing NOW. And clearly SEMO is playing better NOW than JSU.

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Those were all in back to back weeks.

"Clearly" Have you even been watching OVC games?

[Bohcat]

I don't vote, but a few possibilities:
Both are 5-4, but according to Massey, for games already played, WIU's SoS is 2nd, Montana State's is 12.
Our game was over 2 months ago, was only a 3 point difference, at Montana State, and was our HC's first game as a head coach. I'm not trying to make excuses, we lost that game...no argument there. I think it's just that most of the voters are saying that if WIU and MSU met up today, on a neutral field, most think that WIU would pull out the win.
WIU has a better record over the last 3, 4, 5 weeks, so maybe it's also a bit of "what have you done for me lately".

I'm not saying they're right, idk the answer to that, I haven't been looking that closely at MSU since the first few weeks of the season. I'm just putting out a few ideas that might answer your question as to why.

Thanks for the response.

I agree with you on the point of voters taking the mindset "who would win today" and that is a valid and probably a good approach to take when creating a poll. And I am with you that I have not seen WIU play since the first week of the season. I was more just wondering aloud because looking at the resumes on paper they are very similar but MSU's (to me) looks better. It just bugged me that a sizable amount of people didn't see that the same way or were not voting it the same way. Figured I'd try to get some insight.

[Cocky]

Thanks for all of the JSU love from the fans of a team who had to score 10 in the fourth qt to win against a 3-6 team. We do suck and I will admit our game Saturday sucked but you have to admit NDSU didnt look like world beaters either Saturday.

[dbackjon]

Those were all in back to back weeks.

"Clearly" Have you even been watching OVC games?

You are making little sense.

SEMO lost to EKU earlier in the season. They have improved. Since then they curb-stomped JSU, followed by a curb-stomping of UT-M in Martin. The next week JSU struggled at home with that same UT-M. SEMO is getting better, JSU not so much.

Clearly

[JSUSoutherner]

You are making little sense.

SEMO lost to EKU earlier in the season. They have improved. Since then they curb-stomped JSU, followed by a curb-stomping of UT-M in Martin. The next week JSU struggled at home with that same UT-M. SEMO is getting better, JSU not so much.

Clearly
How many games have you watched?

[FUGameBreaker]

Please post your top 25 poll.

As for me not having Furman ranked.

Good wins and bad losses (Furman 4-4 with FBS loss)
Elon L 45-7 (The loss isn't so bad as it was by 38 points)
ETSU L (29-27)
Wofford W (34-14 that is a very good win)
Samford L 38-25 (2 score loss to a mediocre Samford team that is now playing better)

1 good win and 3 bad losses does not equal top 25 to me IMHO.

Dewey




You have Elon and ETSU ranked in your poll yet you still call those bad losses, sure
You are entitled to view those as bad losses, same thinking of me viewing many of those MVFC teams with 4 losses as having bad losses, ie. in your poll for instance UNI lost to Western Ill and Montana. Also Western Ill lost to Montana St. and Ill St.

My poll (please note that I am not an AGS voter)

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
8: Elon Phoenix
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Idaho State Bengals
12: Princeton Tigers
13: Maine Black Bears
14: Colgate Raiders
15: Towson Tigers
16: Dartmouth Big Green
17: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
18: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Wofford Terriers
21: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
22: Samford Bulldogs
23: Furman Paladins
24: Nicholls State Colonels
25: McNeese State Cowboys

[FUGameBreaker]

Next team for me is NC A&T at 26

[dewey]

You have Elon and ETSU ranked in your poll yet you still call those bad losses, sure
You are entitled to view those as bad losses, same thinking of me viewing many of those MVFC teams with 4 losses as having bad losses, ie. in your poll for instance UNI lost to Western Ill and Montana. Also Western Ill lost to Montana St. and Ill St.

My poll (please not that I am not an AGS voter)

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
8: Elon Phoenix
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Idaho State Bengals
12: Princeton Tigers
13: Maine Black Bears
14: Colgate Raiders
15: Towson Tigers
16: Dartmouth Big Green
17: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
18: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Wofford Terriers
21: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
22: Samford Bulldogs
23: Furman Paladins
24: Nicholls State Colonels
25: McNeese State CowboysI incorrectly stated the ETSU loss as bad. It still doesn't change the fact that Furman has 1 good win and 1 loss to Elon by about 5 scores along with a bunch of ho hum wins.

Plus you are complaining about Furman not being in the top 25 when you, as a fan, have them at 23...really? The AGS poll has Furman at 30 below Samford....who should be higher.

How do you know that I don't have Furman at 26?

Dewey

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[FUGameBreaker]

I incorrectly stated the ETSU loss as bad. It still doesn't change the fact that Furman has 1 good win and 1 loss to Elon by about 5 scores along with a bunch of ho hum wins.

Plus you are complaining about Furman not being in the top 25 when you, as a fan, have them at 23...really?

How do you know that I don't have Furman at 26?

Dewey

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I never said they should be highly ranked, just ranked period if they beat UTC in my opinion, and if you have them 26 honestly I would be happy with that with 2 weeks left to play

[JSUSoutherner]

I incorrectly stated the ETSU loss as bad. It still doesn't change the fact that Furman has 1 good win and 1 loss to Elon by about 5 scores along with a bunch of ho hum wins.

Plus you are complaining about Furman not being in the top 25 when you, as a fan, have them at 23...really? The AGS poll has Furman at 30 below Samford....who should be higher.

How do you know that I don't have Furman at 26?

Dewey

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You don't understand. Colgate cancelled on them!

[dewey]

You don't understand. Colgate cancelled on them!

LOL! And as I recall reading that means they are scared and Furman would have named the score on them.

Dewey

[Thumper 76]

Hello Thumper 76,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/4/2018 13:29:58

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Elon Phoenix
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Colgate Raiders
9: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Idaho State Bengals
12: Stony Brook Seawolves
13: Maine Black Bears
14: Northern Iowa Panthers
15: Towson Tigers
16: Wofford Terriers
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Furman Paladins
19: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
20: Illinois State Redbirds
21: Nicholls State Colonels
22: Princeton Tigers
23: McNeese State Cowboys
24: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
25: Samford Bulldogs

Thumper 76

The Most Significant Win: Samford Bulldogs
The Most Significant Loss: James Madison Dukes
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference




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[SU DOG]

JSU Southerner, what happened to APSU? I thought this was supposed to be their year.

[FUGameBreaker]

LOL! And as I recall reading that means they are scared and Furman would have named the score on them.

Dewey



Lol xthumbsupx

I thought about putting UC Davis #1 just for kicks lol, sure that would have gone over nicely xsmiley_wix

[dewey]

I never said they should be highly ranked, just ranked period if they beat UTC in my opinion, and if you have them 26 honestly I would be happy with that with 2 weeks left to play

So you are irritated that Furman is 26th in my poll (not saying they are or are not) but the AGS has them at 30? While you have them at 23rd?

7 spots from where a fan thinks they should be ranked compared to where they are? Furman isn't getting a seed no matter what and IIRC they still have a shot at the SoCon title....what more do you want?

Dewey

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I'm talking about NDSU voters who hate Maine......not the rest.

Most if not all NDSU voters give 2 sh**s about Maine.

You crawled out of the woodwork now that Maine is looking line playoff material.

Get over yourself....

[JSUSoutherner]

JSU Southerner, what happened to APSU? I thought this was supposed to be their year.
Your guess is as good as mine.

The sad part is that by historical standards this is still an incredible year for them.

[ksu_owls]

We are not a top 10 team and Kennessaw sure as hell isn't a top 3 team.

lol

[FUGameBreaker]

So you are irritated that Furman is 26th in my poll (not saying they are or are not) but the AGS has them at 30? While you have them at 23rd?

7 spots from where a fan thinks they should be ranked compared to where they are? Furman isn't getting a seed no matter what and IIRC they still have a shot at the SoCon title....what more do you want?

Dewey



What?

I said if you have them at 26th cool, that's still a good spot for us with 2 weeks to go

[TheKingpin28]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: Weber State Wildcats
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Colgate Raiders
11: Idaho State Bengals
12: Maine Black Bears
13: Towson Tigers
14: Stony Brook Seawolves
15: Princeton Tigers
16: Wofford Terriers
17: Dartmouth Big Green
18: McNeese State Cowboys
19: Nicholls State Colonels
20: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
21: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
22: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
23: Western Illinois Leathernecks
24: Northern Iowa Panthers
25: Rhode Island Rams

I will say this, I was perfect on 13 and only 1 off on 16.

Notes:

-Not sure what ISUo has to do to get into the bubble T10 spot
-People are too high on SBU right now
-Did people miss the Dartmouth-Princeton game? They are NOT 10 spots apart from one another. This is lazy voting.
-I am way too high on McNeese and I know that, but no one else wants to step up in the FCS.
-WIU and UNI NEED to be near each other, no 5 spots apart with UNI above WIU.

[dustinthorn93]

I don't vote, but just sharing to have full transparency in case I decide to debate...

1. North Dakota State Bison
2. UC Davis Aggies
3. Weber State Wildcats
4. Elon Phoenix
5. South Dakota State Jackrabbits
6. Eastern Washington Eagles
7. Kennesaw State Owls
8. Colgate Raiders
9. Princeton Tigers
10. Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
11. James Madison Dukes
12. Northern Iowa Panthers
13. Maine Black Bears
14. Towson Tigers
15. Dartmouth Big Green
16. Stony Brook Seawolves
17. East Tennessee State Buccaneers
18. Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
19. Jacksonville State Gamecocks
20. Illinois State Redbirds
21. Western Illinois Leathernecks
22. Samford Bulldogs
23. Wofford Terriers
24. North Carolina A&T Aggies
25. McNeese State Cowboys

[JSUSoutherner]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: Weber State Wildcats
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Colgate Raiders
11: Idaho State Bengals
12: Maine Black Bears
13: Towson Tigers
14: Stony Brook Seawolves
15: Princeton Tigers
16: Wofford Terriers
17: Dartmouth Big Green
18: McNeese State Cowboys
19: Nicholls State Colonels
20: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
21: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
22: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
23: Western Illinois Leathernecks
24: Northern Iowa Panthers
25: Rhode Island Rams

I will say this, I was perfect on 13 and only 1 off on 16.

Notes:

-Not sure what ISUo has to do to get into the bubble T10 spot
-People are too high on SBU right now
-Did people miss the Dartmouth-Princeton game? They are NOT 10 spots apart from one another. This is lazy voting.
-I am way too high on McNeese and I know that, but no one else wants to step up in the FCS.
-WIU and UNI NEED to be near each other, no 5 spots apart with UNI above WIU.
Not a fan of the McNeese pick but other than that its solid

[TheKingpin28]

Not a fan of the McNeese pick but other than that its solid

Yeah I openly admitted that. I was not a fan of them being there, but with how everyone else decided to play, it was difficult to move them down near 25. I should have had them around 22ish.

[semobison]

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/4/2018 15:18:31

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Colgate Raiders
9: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
10: Stony Brook Seawolves
11: Idaho State Bengals
12: Maine Black Bears
13: Northern Iowa Panthers
14: James Madison Dukes
15: Princeton Tigers
16: Towson Tigers
17: Dartmouth Big Green
18: Wofford Terriers
19: Nicholls State Colonels
20: Western Illinois Leathernecks
21: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
22: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
23: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
24: McNeese State Cowboys
25: Indiana State Sycamores

Semobison

The Most Significant Win: Maine Black Bears
The Most Significant Loss: James Madison Dukes
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

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[JSUSoutherner]

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/4/2018 15:18:31

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Colgate Raiders
9: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
10: Stony Brook Seawolves
11: Idaho State Bengals
12: Maine Black Bears
13: Northern Iowa Panthers
14: James Madison Dukes
15: Princeton Tigers
16: Towson Tigers
17: Dartmouth Big Green
18: Wofford Terriers
19: Nicholls State Colonels
20: Western Illinois Leathernecks
21: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
22: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
23: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
24: McNeese State Cowboys
25: Indiana State Sycamores

Semobison

The Most Significant Win: Maine Black Bears
The Most Significant Loss: James Madison Dukes
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

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Surely you meant ISUr, right?

[Professor]

Care to elaborate?

Some of the poll have favorites have 3 and 4 loses. Just amazing how much consideration they are receiving

[Preferred Walk-On]

This was actually one of my most difficult weeks for rankings, as many teams that should have handled their opponents, did not. And don't even get me started about who to rank from 20 down. Enjoy!

Hello Preferred Walk-On,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/4/2018 19:22:21

Your vote is listed below. (Last week's rank by this voter is denoted in parentheses.)

1: North Dakota State Bison (1) - Closer than expected against Youngstown State; however, good teams find ways to win those games, and the Bison did that. May help in preparation for playoff run.

2: UC-Davis Aggies (3) - The Aggies have made it to #2. Now have a "prove-it" game with Eastern Washington.

3: Kennesaw State Owls (4) - A lot of AGS ranting about the Owls not playing not playing a difficult schedule; however, they have yet to s**t the bed (unlike most other teams in this list). Furthermore, they did beat a Samford team that some are calling for reconsideration.

4: Weber State Wildcats (5) - Their only "bad" loss was to Northern Arizona, and they did beat the team at #5. Miss UC-Davis this year, so who knows?

5: Eastern Washington Eagles (6) - Their only non-FBS loss was to #4 Weber State...by one score...without Gage Gubrud. UC-Davis is next.

6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits (9) - Moved the Jackrabbits above Elon and Idaho state due to their assertion of their dominance over Missouri State. Yes, the Phoenix and Bengals did win, but in this voter's eyes, they did not do so in as convincing of fashions as the Jackrabbits against similar level competition. Neither did NDSU or UC-Davis, but it appears that SDSU may have found some continuity heading toward the playoffs.

7: Elon Phoenix (7) - Won against Rhode Island. Is this an impressive win? I think that it is somewhat impressive, given Elon's QB and RB situation; hence, no movement up or down.

8: Idaho State Bengals (8) - Really was rooting for the Bengals to move up even further. Then Portland State happened. Took care of business and still have a chance to move up (to a seed?) in two weeks when they play Weber State.

9: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens (10) - With great consideration, #7 and #9 could have been switched, but did not do so after the Blue Hens beat a winless in conference (and 2-6) Great Danes squad. A couple score difference, and I would have swapped Elon and Delaware. Maybe next week.

10: James Madison Dukes (2) - What in the Sam Hell is going on? Probably should have dropped the Dukes further, but built up equity with both North Carolina State loss (close to a Top 25-ranked FBS team) and win over Stony Brook held the fall to #10. The Dukes will prove their mettle in the next two weeks.

11: Northern Iowa Panthers (13) - Most will say "too high". Some might say Northern Arizona or Furman should be ranked above these bozos. Their playoff backs were against the wall after a stinker last week to Western Illinois, and this voter thinks that a win against Illinois State was the way that a winner responds. Granted, the Redbirds are in a tumble as well, but it was pointed out that this was against NDSU and SDSU in back-to-back weeks. Northern Iowa is going to make the playoffs, and if you are really hoping to draw UNI on Thanksgiving weekend, you are crazy. Besides, it is always the second round that the Panthers exit. :)

12: Nicholls State Colonels (15) - Best team in the Southland? Maybe, but that title comes with a bit of skepticism. They did beat the arguably two hottest teams currently in the Southland, Lamar and Incarnate Word, and should close out the season with two more wins. The same cannot be said for any other Southland team in contention. Benefitted as well from Towson and McNeese State losses with respect to rankings.

13: Stony Brook Seawolves (12) - Yes, they dropped one spot for a BYE. Did not mean to penalize, but they did lose last week to a James Madison team that just got beat by New Hampshire, and the transitive property got to me for one spot.

14: Colgate Raiders (20) - Gall darn it, anyway! If you had just played somebody...anybody. The Raiders did beat New Hampshire and William & Mary, which cannot be said about some other teams; however, those teams play more difficult teams on a week-by-week basis. I think Colgate will likely get a seed, but the playoffs will be when we really know where they should rank. Go ahead, be hard on this one. I can take it.

15: Princeton Tigers (21) - Congratulations on the Tiger's win! 'Til next year then.

16: Dartmouth Big Green (22) - Congratulations on your hard-fought defeat to Princeton. I guess the Tiger's offense is not that and a box of chocolates. Good luck with finals.

17: Maine Black Bears (NR) - Beat an upper-level CAA team, get ranked. Win consistently, stay ranked.

18: Towson Tigers (11) - This voter's love for you has not been as strong as others, but truth be told, Delaware and Maine are not an easy back-to-back. If the Tigers are really as good as some believe, then they should take care of Elon and James Madison in the final two weeks, given the Phoenix's roster situation and the Dukes' recent struggles. If not, then I am not even sure they will make #18 (although no other teams seem to want it either).

19: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks (NR) - dbackjon will be proud to know that the Redhawks have usurped the Gamecocks this week. Just had to see another common opponent comparison. That said, Jacksonville State handled Murray State, so this voter expects that SEMO will do the same (and more). We shall see.

20: Jacksonville State Gamecocks (17) - I know the Gamecocks won, but one score to Tennessee-Martin? Consistent play does not appear to be a strong suit. Now the Gamecocks get a chance to show that anything SEMO can do, they can do better (Tennessee State), before playing Kennesaw State to finish out the season.

21: East Tennessee State Buccaneers (NR) - The Buccaneers lead the Southern Conference. Have their wins been close? Yes. But have they won? Yes. Until either Samford beats them (possible in two weeks), or Furman somehow magically gets to play them again, they will be the top-ranked Southern team. Moved them into the rankings, because they beat Mercer. Mercer you say? Yeah, the Mercer that beat Samford, who is again the only team that can prevent ETSU from winning the Southern.

22: Samford Bulldogs (NR) - Rough start to season, but have won four straight, including Furman and Wofford in that stretch. Was perhaps a bit rough on Wofford in this poll, but Samford and Furman beat Wofford head-to-head.

23: Furman Paladins (NR) - The fact that the Paladins beat Chattanooga was probably not overly impressive. But they have beaten Wofford, did not give up 77 points to Clemson (looking at you Louisville), and lost to ETSU by 2 points early in the year and to Samford by two scores three weeks ago. They are worthy of a #23 spot.

24: Western Illinois Leathernecks (24) - Yikes! This voter is feeling a bit queasy about the roller coaster that is the Leathernecks. Kept them in the rankings, because they found a way to win and keep playoff hopes alive. It was fugly though.

25: Indiana State Sycamores (NR) - The Sycamores are on a three game winning streak, and two of their MVFC losses were by a combined total of six points. Of course, two of their MVFC wins were also by a combined total of six points. If they beat Illinois State and Western Illinois, they will still only be at 6 DI wins (kind of like Furman), but I don't think anyone expected them to even be remotely in the position they are in now.

Preferred Walk-On

The Most Significant Win: Maine Black Bears - Nice win over Towson. Now do it two more times.

The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota Fighting Hawks - May have played themselves out of a playoff spot with that showing. Can get to 7 DI wins. If they do, should probably be in playoffs (due to strong showings against Weber State and Idaho State and curb-stomping of Montana), but will likely be a Thanksgiving weekend exit if they make it.

Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[Professor]

Apparently neither is NC A&T? Funny how you have the two teams that beat JSU at 22 and 23 yet have JSU as a top 15 5eam. Just proves to me that when JSU plays any top 25 team they lose. Also, needing a last second TD to beat a 1-7 team is pretty bleh. I have them ranked, but SEMO deserves to be ahead of them with identical records and the H2H victory.

Great post

[FUGameBreaker]

What exactly has Indiana State done to be ranked? Curious why some of you guys like them
They beat a lower division team and like 4 3-6 teams


Not bashing just curious xthumbsupx

[semobison]

Surely you meant ISUr, right?

Nope, ISUb has a better conference record and a 3 game win streak while ISUr is on a 3 game skid. Could have flipped a coin though, tough picking anybody in those last five spots!

[Reign of Terrier]

I'm telling ya: one of those three Big Sky teams is going to BLOW IT in their first playoff game. I don't know who, but it will happen.

[JSUSoutherner]

I'm telling ya: one of those three Big Sky teams is going to BLOW IT in their first playoff game. I don't know who, but it will happen.Water is wet.

[clenz]

Surely you meant ISUr, right?
What exactly has Indiana State done to be ranked? Curious why some of you guys like them
They beat a lower division team and like 4 3-6 teams


Not bashing just curious xthumbsupxMake a case for ISUr over ISUb. For real. I want to see it happen

And do so without relying entirely on a craptastic Colorado State team

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[semobison]

I'm telling ya: one of those three Big Sky teams is going to BLOW IT in their first playoff game. I don't know who, but it will happen.

Its going to be real interesting come playoff time with the high ranked Big Sky teams. Their playoff record in recent years is not real good.

[FUGameBreaker]

Make a case for ISUr over ISUb. For real. I want to see it happen

And do so without relying entirely on a craptastic Colorado State team

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Sorry, between who?

[Thumper 76]

Surely you meant ISUr, right?

I could argue that outside of the FBS game ISUb has been playing better to end the season. They aren’t terrible.


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[clenz]

Sorry, between who?You're not dumb.

You know who

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[JSUSoutherner]

Make a case for ISUr over ISUb. For real. I want to see it happen

And do so without relying entirely on a craptastic Colorado State team

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Both beat a non-d1 team. Both beat EIU, though ISUr beat them considerably worse.

Both are 5-4.

ISUb is on a 3 game streak yes but they beat, YSU, SIU, and USD. Big whup.

ISUr is on a 3 game skid but have had by far the hardest 3 game stretch in the nation with NDSU, SDSU, and UNI.

Given the above, think the "last 3 games" argument is a wash.

Biggest difference between the two is ISUr a win over Western Illinois and an FBS scalp.

Fortunately all will be settled this weekend.

[Professor Chaos]

Make a case for ISUr over ISUb. For real. I want to see it happen

And do so without relying entirely on a craptastic Colorado State team

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I think it's pretty easy to argue ISUr over ISUb.

Say what you will about Colorado St but it's a much better win than anything ISUb has. They also have a good win against WIU that is better than anything ISUb has. On top of that just look at common opponents: They both lost to Missouri St by 3. ISUb lost to UNI by 33 and ISUr lost to UNI by 10. ISUb beat SIU by 3 and ISUr beat SIU by 48. ISUb lost to SDSU by 3 in OT and ISUr lost to SDSU by 10. ISUb beat EIU by 14 and ISUr beat EIU by 38. So one comment opponent in favor of ISUb, 3 in favor of ISUr, and one that's even.

The conference record is kind of misleading because ISUb misses NDSU on the conference schedule while ISUr misses USD.

[Reign of Terrier]

Water is wet.
xoutofrepx


Its going to be real interesting come playoff time with the high ranked Big Sky teams. Their playoff record in recent years is not real good.

Yeah, in the last 4 years, only 3 teams have won a playoff game (Montana, EWU, Weber). That's not good.

[FUGameBreaker]

You're not dumb.

You know who

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Dude, Ill st.? Idaho st.? Indiana st.? Which 2 are you talking about

[JSUSoutherner]

Dude, Ill st.? Idaho st.? Indiana st.? Which 2 are you talking about
illinois and indiana

[semobison]

Both beat a non-d1 team. Both beat EIU, though ISUr beat them considerably worse.

Both are 5-4.

ISUb is on a 3 game streak yes but they beat, YSU, SIU, and USD. Big whup.

ISUr is on a 3 game skid but have had by far the hardest 3 game stretch in the nation with NDSU, SDSU, and UNI.

Given the above, think the "last 3 games" argument is a wash.

Biggest difference between the two is ISUr a win over Western Illinois and an FBS scalp.

Fortunately all will be settled this weekend.


Both played SDSU. They Sycamore's took the Jacks to ot in Brookings.

[clenz]

Both beat a non-d1 team. Both beat EIU, though ISUr beat them considerably worse.

Both are 5-4.

ISUb is on a 3 game streak yes but they beat, YSU, SIU, and USD. Big whup.

ISUr is on a 3 game skid but have had by far the hardest 3 game stretch in the nation with NDSU, SDSU, and UNI.

Given the above, think the "last 3 games" argument is a wash.

Biggest difference between the two is ISUr a win over Western Illinois and an FBS scalp.

Fortunately all will be settled this weekend.ISUb took SDSU to OT in Brookings and were on the 1 yard line with a chance to win in the final seconds.

Illinois State was most completely embarrassed by SDSU UNI and NDSU


The reality is you can't make a good argument for isur over isub at this point.

I saw ISUR this last Saturday. They aren't good.

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[JSUSoutherner]

ISUb took SDSU to OT in Brookings and were on the 1 yard line with a chance to win in the final seconds.

Illinois State was most completely embarrassed by SDSU UNI and NDSU


The reality is you can't make a good argument for isur over isub at this point.

I saw ISUR this last Saturday. They aren't good.

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That is the only common opponent that ISUb did better with.

[clenz]

I think it's pretty easy to argue ISUr over ISUb.

Say what you will about Colorado St but it's a much better win than anything ISUb has. They also have a good win against WIU that is better than anything ISUb has. On top of that just look at common opponents: They both lost to Missouri St by 3. ISUb lost to UNI by 33 and ISUr lost to UNI by 10. ISUb beat SIU by 3 and ISUr beat SIU by 48. ISUb lost to SDSU by 3 in OT and ISUr lost to SDSU by 10. ISUb beat EIU by 14 and ISUr beat EIU by 38. So one comment opponent in favor of ISUb, 3 in favor of ISUr, and one that's even.

The conference record is kind of misleading because ISUb misses NDSU on the conference schedule while ISUr misses USD.The final score of the uni ISUR game is very misleading

ISU had 73 yards of offense going into the 4th and were down 23.

Farley did Farley things and let ISU close the gap. He ran dive after dive and wildcat dive. Went to a prevent cover 3 with 4 short zones under.

That game was embarrassing for ISUr and Farley did what he does and bailed other teams out

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[JSUSoutherner]

The final score of the uni ISUR game is very misleading

ISU had 73 yards of offense going into the 4th and were down 23.

Farley did Farley things and let ISU close the gap. He ran dive after dive and wildcat dive. Went to a prevent cover 3 with 4 short zones under.

That game was embarrassing for ISUr and Farley did what he does and bailed other teams out

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ISUb got shut out in their game.

[clenz]

Yep.


They were they were actually more competitive though.

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[cx500d]

You have Elon and ETSU ranked in your poll yet you still call those bad losses, sure
You are entitled to view those as bad losses, same thinking of me viewing many of those MVFC teams with 4 losses as having bad losses, ie. in your poll for instance UNI lost to Western Ill and Montana. Also Western Ill lost to Montana St. and Ill St.

My poll (please note that I am not an AGS voter)

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
8: Elon Phoenix
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Idaho State Bengals
12: Princeton Tigers
13: Maine Black Bears
14: Colgate Raiders
15: Towson Tigers
16: Dartmouth Big Green
17: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
18: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Wofford Terriers
21: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
22: Samford Bulldogs
23: Furman Paladins
24: Nicholls State Colonels
25: McNeese State Cowboys


WHHHAAAAAAA? Colgate higher than Furman? WTF!?!?!??!?

[jmu007]

My awful, no good, terrible attempt at a poll vote....

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Weber State Wildcats
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
6: Elon Phoenix
7: Kennesaw State Owls
8: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Towson Tigers
11: Stony Brook Seawolves
12: Colgate Raiders
13: Princeton Tigers
14: Idaho State Bengals
15: Wofford Terriers
16: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
17: Dartmouth Big Green
18: Northern Iowa Panthers
19: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
20: McNeese State Cowboys
21: Nicholls State Colonels
22: Illinois State Redbirds
23: North Carolina A&T Aggies
24: Rhode Island Rams
25: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks

[FUGameBreaker]

WHHHAAAAAAA? Colgate higher than Furman? WTF!?!?!??!?



Lol, in my poll ranking yes because they are unbeaten, does not mean I don't think the Dins win in Greenville, but lets not bring that up again

[ST_Lawson]

Nope, ISUb has a better conference record and a 3 game win streak while ISUr is on a 3 game skid. Could have flipped a coin though, tough picking anybody in those last five spots!

At least we'll find out for sure in 5 days (between those two ISU's).

[Bisonator]

My awful, no good, terrible attempt at a poll vote....

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Weber State Wildcats
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
6: Elon Phoenix
7: Kennesaw State Owls
8: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Towson Tigers
11: Stony Brook Seawolves
12: Colgate Raiders
13: Princeton Tigers
14: Idaho State Bengals
15: Wofford Terriers
16: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
17: Dartmouth Big Green
18: Northern Iowa Panthers
19: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
20: McNeese State Cowboys
21: Nicholls State Colonels
22: Illinois State Redbirds
23: North Carolina A&T Aggies
24: Rhode Island Rams
25: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
Maine hater! Maine hater! xlolx

[Terry2889]

Here's my poll ballot:

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Delaware Fightin Blue Hens
4: Kennessaw State Owls
5: Elon Phoenix
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Colgate Raiders
9: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
10: Towson Tigers
11: James Madison Dukes
12: Stony Brook Seawolves
13: Idaho State Bengals
14: Princeton Tigers
15: Maine Black Bears
16: Nicholls State Colonels
17: Dartmouth Big Green
18: Western Illinois Leathernecks
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Illinois State Redbirds
21: Samford Bulldogs
22: Wofford Terriers
23: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
24: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
25: Jacksonville State Gamecocks

I did some re-evaluating in my top 10 this week. I changed my mind on Weber a gave them a good bump and I'm obviously high on Delaware as well as the top CAA team right now.


Guys, no disrespect to the 'Gate, but #7-9? They barely beat us when we were (and still are) one of the worst offensive teams in recent history...

[cx500d]

Guys, no disrespect to the 'Gate, but #7-9? They barely beat us when we were (and still are) one of the worst offensive teams in recent history...


Dude, you guys are a lock after smoking JMU; i can't believe voters haven't recognized this - you should be top 10 easy

[katss07]

Maine hater! Maine hater! xlolx
I know its a joke, but Maine really isn’t all that special. Their best win is against a skidding Towson team. The URI win has lost some luster. It took a last second FG for them to beat a sorry ass Nova team. They lost to...pfff...William and f’n Mary. Not to mention Yale. Maybe there were injuries but you can’t justify losing to YALE by 28. No excuses.

The Black Bears better hope they get a weak draw in Round 1. Maybe Sacred Heart? New Hampshire? That is if they can get into the playoffs. I have a feeling Elon might embarrass them.

[HensRock]

It's going to be interesting.
19 of these top 25 teams play on the road this week.

[mvemjsunpx]

(last week in parentheses)


1. North Dakota St. (1)
2. Kennesaw St. (3)
3. UC Davis (4)
4. Delaware (5)
5. Weber St. (6)
6. Eastern Washington (8)
7. South Dakota St. (9)
8. Princeton (14)
9. Idaho St. (10)
10. Nicholls St. (12)
11. Elon (13)
12. James Madison (2)
13. Colgate (15)
14. Maine (NR)
15. Towson (7)
16. Stony Brook (19)
17. North Carolina A&T (25)
18. Dartmouth (16)
19. East Tennessee St. (21)
20. Southeast Missouri St. (22)
21. Western Illinois (NR)
22. Northern Iowa (NR)
23. Illinois St. (18)
24. Samford (NR)
25. Wofford (17)

W - Northern Iowa
L - McNeese St.


Dropped - McNeese St. (11), North Dakota (20), Jacksonville St. (23), Florida A&M (24)

[FUGameBreaker]

It's going to be interesting.
19 of these top 25 teams play on the road this week.


Very interesting!

4 out of 5 ranked teams 26-30 will be on the road as well

[LehighU11]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Weber State Wildcats
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Elon Phoenix
6: Kennesaw State Owls
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Princeton Tigers
9: Colgate Raiders
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
12: Maine Black Bears
13: Towson Tigers
14: Stony Brook Seawolves
15: Idaho State Bengals
16: Western Illinois Leathernecks
17: Dartmouth Big Green
18: Northern Iowa Panthers
19: Wofford Terriers
20: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
21: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
22: Nicholls State Colonels
23: Samford Bulldogs
24: Indiana State Sycamores
25: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks

[Schism55]

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29426&stc=1
Inter-species erotica!!

[mainejeff]

I know its a joke, but Maine really isn’t all that special. Their best win is against a skidding Towson team. The URI win has lost some luster. It took a last second FG for them to beat a sorry ass Nova team. They lost to...pfff...William and f’n Mary. Not to mention Yale. Maybe there were injuries but you can’t justify losing to YALE by 28. No excuses.

The Black Bears better hope they get a weak draw in Round 1. Maybe Sacred Heart? New Hampshire? That is if they can get into the playoffs. I have a feeling Elon might embarrass them.

Not that it really matters but Maine lost to Yale by 21 (not 28). And not that it matters but they were without their starting QB. And not that it matters but this was their third road game in a row after playing 2 FBS teams.

Here's the problem with your belittling of Maine's wins......that skidding Towson team destroyed Stony Brook and Delaware got accolades galore for beating Towson by 4 at home. (Maine did it on the road).

And Delaware lost to lusterless URI at home while Maine beat them on the road. And AGS darling Elon just slipped by lusterless URI by 3.

And JMU lost to UNH.....a team that Maine destroyed.

You can't have it both ways.xpeacex

[dewey]

For those voters that have Princeton more than a few spots ahead of Darymouth I would like to hear there thought process.

Dewey

[Fear the Bird]

Hello Fear the Bird,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/4/2018 19:08:36

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: Elon Phoenix
7: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
8: Stony Brook Seawolves
9: Idaho State Bengals
10: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
11: Colgate Raiders
12: Princeton Tigers
13: James Madison Dukes
14: Dartmouth Big Green
15: Maine Black Bears
16: Towson Tigers
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Nicholls State Colonels
19: Wofford Terriers
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
22: Illinois State Redbirds
23: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
24: North Carolina A&T Aggies
25: East Tennessee State Buccaneers

Fear the Bird

The Most Significant Win: Maine Black Bears
The Most Significant Loss: James Madison Dukes
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Colonial Athletic Association

[Schism55]

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Stony Brook Seawolves
11: Colgate Raiders
12: Idaho State Bengals
13: Maine Black Bears
14: Northern Iowa Panthers
15: Princeton Tigers
16: Wofford Terriers
17: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
18: Towson Tigers
19: Nicholls State Colonels
20: Western Illinois Leathernecks
21: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
22: North Carolina A&T Aggies
23: Illinois State Redbirds
24: McNeese State Cowboys
25: Furman Paladins

Schism55

The Most Significant Win: Maine Black Bears
The Most Significant Loss: James Madison Dukes
Brain cramp on my part and somehow omitted Dartmouth during my 4-5 revisions. Sorry Big Green!

[Serpentor]

What will everybody do now that they can't complain about SHSU being in the polls anymore? It's almost refreshing to be forgotten, actually.

[cx500d]

What will everybody do now that they can't complain about SHSU being in the polls anymore? It's almost refreshing to be forgotten, actually.


Finally, everyone's come to their senses

[ElCid]

What will everybody do now that they can't complain about SHSU being in the polls anymore? It's almost refreshing to be forgotten, actually.

That angst has moved on to JSU, apparently.

[cx500d]

That angst has moved on to JSU, apparently.

and Furman, which I've heard sucks, BTW

[TheKingpin28]

and Furman, which I've heard sucks, BTWThey do, they do indeed...

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[Bison56]

What will everybody do now that they can't complain about SHSU being in the polls anymore? It's almost refreshing to be forgotten, actually.
I will never forget you!

[ElCid]

and Furman, which I've heard sucks, BTW


They do.

[FUGameBreaker]

and Furman, which I've heard sucks, BTW



xthumbsupx

[caribbeanhen]

What will everybody do now that they can't complain about SHSU being in the polls anymore? It's almost refreshing to be forgotten, actually.

Delaware fans will never forget about Sammy as long as KC is still there, for however long or short of a time that may be

[Professor Chaos]

I see a lot of ballots with Stony Brook in the top 10 some as high as the 2nd CAA team in their ballot and I really don't get it. They've played 2 games in the CAA top 6 (Towson and JMU) and lost both. They don't really have much for impressive wins with Rhode Island being the best. I did have Stony Brook at #12 but I'm high on the CAA in general this year as they're my 5th highest CAA team but in retrospect I probably could've had them lower as my 6th highest CAA team.

I think they got credit for a moral victory in hanging with JMU in Harrisonburg on 10/27 and they're not really getting that taken away from them now that JMU was exposed this week.

[ElCid]

I see a lot of ballots with Stony Brook in the top 10 some as high as the 2nd CAA team in their ballot and I really don't get it. They've played 2 games in the CAA top 6 (Towson and JMU) and lost both. They don't really have much for impressive wins with Rhode Island being the best. I did have Stony Brook at #12 but I'm high on the CAA in general this year as they're my 5th highest CAA team but in retrospect I probably could've had them lower as my 6th highest CAA team.

I think they got credit for a moral victory in hanging with JMU in Harrisonburg on 10/27 and they're not really getting that taken away from them now that JMU was exposed this week.

It was hard for me in regard to where to place them. They are not in my top 10 but top 15. #4 in CAA. Their Nova win is not bad, nor is their demolishing of NH considering their resurgence, not marquis wins, but good. And of course their big RI win, although that is losing luster. Close JMU loss as well, although that has lost some umph as well. Solid team maybe getting a little too much love. This coming week will make or break them. If they lose bad I expect them to fall to around 20+. CAA is just messed up, not unlike the SOCON, the Southland, or even the MVFC besides NDSU. Lots of inconsistency going on this year.

[mainejeff]

It was hard for me in regard to where to place them. They are not in my top 10 but top 15. #4 in CAA. Their Nova win is not bad, nor is their demolishing of NH considering their resurgence, not marquis wins, but good.

So Maine's wins vs. Nova and UNH are "good" as well?

[ElCid]

So Maine's wins vs. Nova and UNH are "good" as well?

Well they were not bad. They were ok, just like they are for SB. Maine's problem is on the loss side...W&M and Yale. Holding them back a few spots. SB has no questionable losses (AF, Towson, JMU).

[mainejeff]

Well they were not bad. They were ok, just like they are for SB. Maine's problem is on the loss side...W&M and Yale. Holding them back a few spots. SB has no questionable losses (AF, Towson, JMU).

They were more than "ok" according to you. They were "good" for Stony Brook....so they must be "good" for Maine as well, no?

[ElCid]

They were more than "ok" according to you. They were "good" for Stony Brook....so they must be "good" for Maine as well, no?

I don't get hung up on labels. They were OK or Good or whatever for both equally. How is that? Better than average. They weren't "eh" like an Albany would be.

[dewey]

I don't get hung up on labels. They were OK or Good or whatever for both equally. How is that? Better than average. They weren't "eh" like an Albany would be.

Just admit that you hate Maine:D It is what mainejeff wants to hear.

Dewey

[mainejeff]

I don't get hung up on labels. They were OK or Good or whatever for both equally. How is that? Better than average. They weren't "eh" like an Albany would be.

It's just that I keep noticing descriptive discrepancies of Ws & Ls depending on what teams people are trying to promote or disparage.

[mainejeff]

Just admit that you hate Maine:D It is what mainejeff wants to hear.

Dewey

I just want consistency. Is that too much to ask for these days? x406x

[Bisonwinagn]

Poll is good, but Maine is too high. They are ranked 28 in the Sagarin. Thinking Richmond rolls this week. xcoffeex

[mvemjsunpx]

Poll is good, but Maine is too high. They are ranked 28 in the Sagarin. Thinking Richmond rolls this week. xcoffeex

xchinscratchx

I'm not sure Richmond could roll a tire covered with teflon at this point.

[Kemo]

How can anyone justify ranking Weber State above South Dakota State?

Weber State lost to NAU by 4; who lost to Missouri State by 32; Who lost by SDSU by 52.

That means the Jackrabbits would beat the Wildcats by 88 points!!! Even Arkansas-Pine Bluff is taking solace in the fact that they don't hail from Ogden, UT!

[POD Knows]

Just admit that you hate Maine:D It is what mainejeff wants to hear.

Dewey
I hate Maine and for some unexplained reason the hate just popped into my head the last couple days.

Also, here is the answer key for the poll

Hello POD Knows,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/4/2018 8:07:18

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
9: Colgate Raiders
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Stony Brook Seawolves
12: Princeton Tigers
13: Maine Black Bears
14: Idaho State Bengals
15: Wofford Terriers
16: Northern Iowa Panthers
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
19: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
20: Dartmouth Big Green
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: Nicholls State Colonels
23: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
24: Samford Bulldogs
25: Furman Paladins

POD Knows

The Most Significant Win: Maine Black Bears
The Most Significant Loss: James Madison Dukes
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[Thumper 76]

What will everybody do now that they can't complain about SHSU being in the polls anymore? It's almost refreshing to be forgotten, actually.
At the moment I feel rudderless, but I’m certain I will be able to pick someone new. Furman seems to be trending in that direction for me, though Princeton has a strong case.

How can anyone justify ranking Weber State above South Dakota State?

Weber State lost to NAU by 4; who lost to Missouri State by 32; Who lost by SDSU by 52.

That means the Jackrabbits would beat the Wildcats by 88 points!!! Even Arkansas-Pine Bluff is taking solace in the fact that they don't hail from Ogden, UT!

xlolx xlolx xlolx


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[Professor Chaos]

I hate Maine and for some unexplained reason the hate just popped into my head the last couple days.

Also, here is the answer key for the poll

Hello POD Knows,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/4/2018 8:07:18

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
9: Colgate Raiders
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Stony Brook Seawolves
12: Princeton Tigers
13: Maine Black Bears
14: Idaho State Bengals
15: Wofford Terriers
16: Northern Iowa Panthers
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
19: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
20: Dartmouth Big Green
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: Nicholls State Colonels
23: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
24: Samford Bulldogs
25: Furman Paladins

POD Knows

The Most Significant Win: Maine Black Bears
The Most Significant Loss: James Madison Dukes
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference
Looks to me like you hate Towson even more than Maine.

[superman7515]

my streak of 5+ years has ended. i forgot :(

8 year streak ended for me; spent 15 hours yesterday at a 6-alarm fire at an old two-story farmers market in northern Delaware. It was dark when I left and dark when I got home, never had a chance, haha.

https://6abc.com/multi-alarm-fire-burning-at-townsend-del-farm-market/4620783/

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

They were more than "ok" according to you. They were "good" for Stony Brook....so they must be "good" for Maine as well, no?

MaineJeff, In 24 hrs you have managed to piss off more posters than you can shake a stick at it and if you keep it up we will fall out of the top 25xcoffeex We have a couple of good wins and a couple of poor losses. Let's win out, win the CAA and the AQ and see where we stand then. It is way too early to get worked up now on our rating.

[MR. CHICKEN]

8 year streak ended for me; spent 15 hours yesterday at a 6-alarm fire at an old two-story farmers market in northern Delaware. It was dark when I left and dark when I got home, never had a chance, haha.

https://6abc.com/multi-alarm-fire-burning-at-townsend-del-farm-market/4620783/


.......URSUS.....SUPER-LAD....SHOOD GET UH MULLIGAN.......UNDERAH........AGS....HERO CLAUSE....(BEIN' SERIOUS!)......IFIN' HE...DOESN'T HAVE DUH PRE-SEASON POLL.......SOME FIREFIGHTERS WERE TAKEN TA HOSPITAL......IN DIS ONE...........BRAWK!!

[dewey]

8 year streak ended for me; spent 15 hours yesterday at a 6-alarm fire at an old two-story farmers market in northern Delaware. It was dark when I left and dark when I got home, never had a chance, haha.

https://6abc.com/multi-alarm-fire-burning-at-townsend-del-farm-market/4620783/

Did you do a preseason poll? If so that would be your mulligan. The big bear would know the best on the poll perfection rules.

I would also agree with Mr Chicken on a AGS Hero clause.

Dewey

[katss07]

Delaware fans will never forget about Sammy as long as KC is still there, for however long or short of a time that may be
Hopefully a long time. Despite what Sam fans seem to think, Keeler has done a good job. It’d be nice if he could develop a qb though. Maybe Brock is that guy.

[Thumper 76]

MaineJeff, In 24 hrs you have managed to piss off more posters than you can shake a stick at it and if you keep it up we will fall out of the top 25xcoffeex We have a couple of good wins and a couple of poor losses. Let's win out, win the CAA and the AQ and see where we stand then. It is way too early to get worked up now on our rating.
Eh, probably not. As much as certain posters irritate people, or any real animosity that fan bases have with rivals everyone does a pretty good job and putting that aside when they put their voting hats on. If that weren’t the case then UND would never get into the top 25 and SDSU would be much farther down the ladder than top 10. There’s a bunch of ndsu voters that would affect it that way if they let their bias interfere. Which is what makes his everyone hates Maine conspiracy funny as hell to me. There is zero reason for voters in the Midwest to have any sort of feelings towards Maine good or bad, let alone hate.

.......URSUS.....SUPER-LAD....SHOOD GET UH MULLIGAN.......UNDERAH........AGS....HERO CLAUSE....(BEIN' SERIOUS!)......IFIN' HE...DOESN'T HAVE DUH PRE-SEASON POLL.......SOME FIREFIGHTERS WERE TAKEN TA HOSPITAL......IN DIS ONE...........BRAWK!!

I agree with the feathered one.


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[ST_Lawson]

I agree with the feathered one.


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I don't vote, but I also agree. If someone is a bit too busy saving lives to be able to fill out their poll, I think they're allowed a "pass".

[semobison]

I hate Maine and for some unexplained reason the hate just popped into my head the last couple days.

Also, here is the answer key for the poll

Hello POD Knows,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/4/2018 8:07:18

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
9: Colgate Raiders
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Stony Brook Seawolves
12: Princeton Tigers
13: Maine Black Bears
14: Idaho State Bengals
15: Wofford Terriers
16: Northern Iowa Panthers
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
19: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
20: Dartmouth Big Green
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: Nicholls State Colonels
23: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
24: Samford Bulldogs
25: Furman Paladins

POD Knows

The Most Significant Win: Maine Black Bears
The Most Significant Loss: James Madison Dukes
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

Let me see, you have Dartmouth too low....or, maybe Princeton to high....ah, forget it, they don't matter anyway!

[superman7515]

.......URSUS.....SUPER-LAD....SHOOD GET UH MULLIGAN.......UNDERAH........AGS....HERO CLAUSE....(BEIN' SERIOUS!)......IFIN' HE...DOESN'T HAVE DUH PRE-SEASON POLL.......SOME FIREFIGHTERS WERE TAKEN TA HOSPITAL......IN DIS ONE...........BRAWK!!


Did you do a preseason poll? If so that would be your mulligan. The big bear would know the best on the poll perfection rules.

I would also agree with Mr Chicken on a AGS Hero clause.

Dewey

I appreciate the sentiment, I honestly don't recall if I did a preseason poll or not, but the "hero" stuff some of these guys in my own profession spout is truly cringe worthy and I would respectfully decline any sort of preferential treatment along those lines. I've done my poll on Monday every week this year, but my happy ass had all day Sunday to do it just like everyone else, so if I didn't make the preseason poll, that's on me.

[dbackjon]

8 year streak ended for me; spent 15 hours yesterday at a 6-alarm fire at an old two-story farmers market in northern Delaware. It was dark when I left and dark when I got home, never had a chance, haha.

https://6abc.com/multi-alarm-fire-burning-at-townsend-del-farm-market/4620783/

You are a Superman!

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

Eh, probably not. As much as certain posters irritate people, or any real animosity that fan bases have with rivals everyone does a pretty good job and putting that aside when they put their voting hats on. If that weren’t the case then UND would never get into the top 25 and SDSU would be much farther down the ladder than top 10. There’s a bunch of ndsu voters that would affect it that way if they let their bias interfere. Which is what makes his everyone hates Maine conspiracy funny as hell to me. There is zero reason for voters in the Midwest to have any sort of feelings towards Maine good or bad, let alone hate.


I agree with the feathered one.


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Tongue and cheek about voting us out of the top 25xdrunkyx We control our own destiny, win out and we are top a 10 at a minimum, with an AQ to boot!!!

[MSUBobcat]

I don't vote, but a few possibilities:
Both are 5-4, but according to Massey, for games already played, WIU's SoS is 2nd, Montana State's is 12.
Our game was over 2 months ago, was only a 3 point difference, at Montana State, and was our HC's first game as a head coach. I'm not trying to make excuses, we lost that game...no argument there. I think it's just that most of the voters are saying that if WIU and MSU met up today, on a neutral field, most think that WIU would pull out the win.
WIU has a better record over the last 3, 4, 5 weeks, so maybe it's also a bit of "what have you done for me lately".

I'm not saying they're right, idk the answer to that, I haven't been looking that closely at MSU since the first few weeks of the season. I'm just putting out a few ideas that might answer your question as to why.

Not disagreeing with any of this, nor am I politicking for the Bobcats to be in the top 25. The only exception I would have is that with the fairly similar resumes and the head-to-head victory, I'm not seeing a 15 spot difference. WIU is firmly in the top 25 (44% more points than the #26 team) while the other is just barely an ORV (5 whopping points). Again, I can't stress enough that I would not have MSU in the top 25 because of our debacle of a QB situation. It just strikes me as odd that the voters, on average, ranked WIU about 22.36 while a team that beat them appeared as the #25 team on only 5.8% of the voter's ballot.

[ElCid]

Not disagreeing with any of this, nor am I politicking for the Bobcats to be in the top 25. The only exception I would have is that with the fairly similar resumes and the head-to-head victory, I'm not seeing a 15 spot difference. WIU is firmly in the top 25 (44% more points than the #26 team) while the other is just barely an ORV (5 whopping points). Again, I can't stress enough that I would not have MSU in the top 25 because of our debacle of a QB situation. It just strikes me as odd that the voters, on average, ranked WIU about 22.36 while a team that beat them appeared as the #25 team on only 5.8% of the voter's ballot.


That's only one data point. Entire resume has many more data points.

[Thumper 76]

Not disagreeing with any of this, nor am I politicking for the Bobcats to be in the top 25. The only exception I would have is that with the fairly similar resumes and the head-to-head victory, I'm not seeing a 15 spot difference. WIU is firmly in the top 25 (44% more points than the #26 team) while the other is just barely an ORV (5 whopping points). Again, I can't stress enough that I would not have MSU in the top 25 because of our debacle of a QB situation. It just strikes me as odd that the voters, on average, ranked WIU about 22.36 while a team that beat them appeared as the #25 team on only 5.8% of the voter's ballot.

Couple things from my perspective. Most voters probably considered MSU, but likely had them just outside their top 25, so the votes are going to be skewed quite a bit even if people only have a 4-6 spot difference with them. And at the bottom of the poll that’s not a huge gap compared to having teams at the top of the poll. My other thing is I just don’t have a lot of faith in MSU to make the playoffs with their qb situation while WIU looks to have a good or decent shot at winning out. That and I would say a 3 pt loss on the road for the gold rush game would very easily have swung the other way if it had been at WIU. Also I would argue that WIU has two wins better than any of the wins that MSU has so far with Montana and UNI. It also helps that WIU is on a 3 game win streak and has had less close games to bad teams. The bigger part to me is the win streak. It’s hard to jump into the top 25 going 1-2 Over the last three weeks with your only win being a squeaker to Cal Poly. It’s much easier to justify a team getting into the poll after winning their last three, especially with one win being against a probable playoff team.


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[Bisonator]

I appreciate the sentiment, I honestly don't recall if I did a preseason poll or not, but the "hero" stuff some of these guys in my own profession spout is truly cringe worthy and I would respectfully decline any sort of preferential treatment along those lines. I've done my poll on Monday every week this year, but my happy ass had all day Sunday to do it just like everyone else, so if I didn't make the preseason poll, that's on me.
Appreciate what you do Sup!xthumbsupx

[MSUBobcat]

That's only one data point. Entire resume has many more data points.

Right. The original comment that ST_Lawson replied to listed out the similarities in said resumes. And my post also mentioned that the resumes are similar. Not real sure what data point you are referencing.....

[dewey]

I appreciate the sentiment, I honestly don't recall if I did a preseason poll or not, but the "hero" stuff some of these guys in my own profession spout is truly cringe worthy and I would respectfully decline any sort of preferential treatment along those lines. I've done my poll on Monday every week this year, but my happy ass had all day Sunday to do it just like everyone else, so if I didn't make the preseason poll, that's on me.

IMHO anyone that risks their own lives to save another is a hero in my book. Hopefully we will meet next fall when the 2 time defending champions come to Newarkxdrunkyx

Dewey

[MSUBobcat]

Couple things from my perspective. Most voters probably considered MSU, but likely had them just outside their top 25, so the votes are going to be skewed quite a bit even if people only have a 4-6 spot difference with them. And at the bottom of the poll that’s not a huge gap compared to having teams at the top of the poll. My other thing is I just don’t have a lot of faith in MSU to make the playoffs with their qb situation while WIU looks to have a good or decent shot at winning out. That and I would say a 3 pt loss on the road for the gold rush game would very easily have swung the other way if it had been at WIU. Also I would argue that WIU has two wins better than any of the wins that MSU has so far with Montana and UNI. It also helps that WIU is on a 3 game win streak and has had less close games to bad teams. The bigger part to me is the win streak. It’s hard to jump into the top 25 going 1-2 Over the last three weeks with your only win being a squeaker to Cal Poly. It’s much easier to justify a team getting into the poll after winning their last three, especially with one win being against a probable playoff team.


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As mentioned, I don't think MSU is a top 25 team. I just don't see how WIU is, on average, #22 on every single voters' poll with the resume they have. I know toward the bottom, especially this year, voters just stick a team in to fill the spots so I'm not at all concerned about them making it on most people's ballots. It just strikes me as odd how much more legs they are getting out of the UNI win than MSU gets credit for the win over WIU. What is really interesting is that you consider WIU's win over a bad Griz team as better than a win over......... WIU. xrotatehx The circular logic on that one is making my head hurt. If a win over UM is a "quality win", I'd have to think at least ONE of the wins over teams that beat UM would have to also be a quality win (PSU and/or WIU). In fact, those would be more quality-er, not?

[Prime Power]

My shot at it.

Hello Prime Power,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/5/2018 9:17:54

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: Weber State Wildcats
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Elon Phoenix
7: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
8: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
9: Colgate Raiders
10: Princeton Tigers
11: James Madison Dukes
12: Stony Brook Seawolves
13: Idaho State Bengals
14: Dartmouth Big Green
15: Wofford Terriers
16: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
17: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
18: Northern Iowa Panthers
19: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
20: Towson Tigers
21: North Carolina A&T Aggies
22: McNeese State Cowboys
23: Nicholls State Colonels
24: Maine Black Bears
25: Illinois State Redbirds

Prime Power

The Most Significant Win: Maine Black Bears
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[ursus arctos horribilis]

8 year streak ended for me; spent 15 hours yesterday at a 6-alarm fire at an old two-story farmers market in northern Delaware. It was dark when I left and dark when I got home, never had a chance, haha.

https://6abc.com/multi-alarm-fire-burning-at-townsend-del-farm-market/4620783/

Your preseason vote (ins. policy) was also paid up so the perfection is still intact just so we're clear. Man, that sucks on the market though. Good work there as well.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

.......URSUS.....SUPER-LAD....SHOOD GET UH MULLIGAN.......UNDERAH........AGS....HERO CLAUSE....(BEIN' SERIOUS!)......IFIN' HE...DOESN'T HAVE DUH PRE-SEASON POLL.......SOME FIREFIGHTERS WERE TAKEN TA HOSPITAL......IN DIS ONE...........BRAWK!!

He does, he's all covered.

[Mayville Bison]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: Weber State Wildcats
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Colgate Raiders
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
11: Idaho State Bengals
12: Maine Black Bears
13: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
14: Northern Iowa Panthers
15: Nicholls State Colonels
16: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17: Stony Brook Seawolves
18: Towson Tigers
19: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
20: Wofford Terriers
21: Princeton Tigers
22: Western Illinois Leathernecks
23: Samford Bulldogs
24: North Carolina A&T Aggies
25: McNeese State Cowboys

Mayville Bison

The Most Significant Win: Maine Black Bears
The Most Significant Loss: James Madison Dukes
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[dbackjon]

Here is my mess:

Self-ID's problems:

I left off Dartmouth - didn't mean to drop them completely from the poll
Needed to have NC A&T higher

The whole 6-40 is a complete and utter mess to try to figure out who deserves to be ranked above whom.


Hello dbackjon,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/5/2018 8:59:39

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: Weber State Wildcats
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Elon Phoenix
7: James Madison Dukes
8: Colgate Raiders
9: Idaho State Bengals
10: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
11: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
12: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
13: Princeton Tigers
14: Stony Brook Seawolves
15: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
16: Wofford Terriers
17: Maine Black Bears
18: Western Illinois Leathernecks
19: Nicholls State Colonels
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: Towson Tigers
23: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
24: North Carolina A&T Aggies
25: Montana State Bobcats

dbackjon

The Most Significant Win: Weber State Wildcats
The Most Significant Loss: James Madison Dukes
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Big Sky Conference

[JSUSoutherner]

Here is my mess:

Self-ID's problems:

I left off Dartmouth - didn't mean to drop them completely from the poll
Needed to have NC A&T higher

The whole 6-40 is a complete and utter mess to try to figure out who deserves to be ranked above whom.


Hello dbackjon,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 11/5/2018 8:59:39

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: UC Davis Aggies
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: Weber State Wildcats
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Elon Phoenix
7: James Madison Dukes
8: Colgate Raiders
9: Idaho State Bengals
10: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
11: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
12: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
13: Princeton Tigers
14: Stony Brook Seawolves
15: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
16: Wofford Terriers
17: Maine Black Bears
18: Western Illinois Leathernecks
19: Nicholls State Colonels
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: Towson Tigers
23: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
24: North Carolina A&T Aggies
25: Montana State Bobcats

dbackjon

The Most Significant Win: Weber State Wildcats
The Most Significant Loss: James Madison Dukes
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Big Sky Conference

I know you were talking about SEMO needs to be higher than JSU, but 12?? Holy crap.

[MacThor]

FWIW, here is the order I ranked the CAA teams:
Delaware
Elon
JMU
Maine
Towson
Stony Brook

[hoidOfYolen]

FWIW, here is the order I ranked the CAA teams:
Delaware
Elon
JMU
Maine
Towson
Stony Brook

I agree with this list the most, I think

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

I agree with this list the most, I think

I totally disagree but no since arguing, the next 2 weekends will determine what is correctxcoolxxdrunkyx

Can't wait to start watching CAA games at noon, this is gonna be fun. But next w/e will be even better, hopefully!!!

[BisonBacker]

I'm didn't vote this year in the poll but for me I have a hard time with Kennesaw being ranked so high. I'm looking forward to the playoffs where the pretenders are outed very quickly. Kennesaw will get their opportunity to prove they deserve the rankings they've been getting or not.

[mainejeff]

FWIW, here is the order I ranked the CAA teams:
Delaware
Elon
JMU
Maine
Towson
Stony Brook

Before today's games....

Delaware
JMU
Maine
Towson
Elon
Stony Brook

[POD Knows]

Looks to me like you hate Towson even more than Maine.God damn, WTF, I knew there was something wrong in my poll when I had to put both Samford and Furman in. I went back to this master spreadsheet I keep and maintain and Towson is not on it. No idea what happened as I cut and paste off of that sheet into another one that I use for my final poll and then do the AGS poll from the final edited one. I can't remember the last time I missed a team outright, I don't know if I ever have. That sucks, sorry Towson, Furman got a spot that I should have had for you, Towson would have been in the teens for me and Furman would have been the last man in.

[POD Knows]

Let me see, you have Dartmouth too low....or, maybe Princeton to high....ah, forget it, they don't matter anyway!
I didn't have Dartmouth in my previous poll, I think I have them in about the right spot, this is the only year I have ever had an Ivy in my polls because the rest of the group sucks balls, did you notice my Towson omission, I screwed the pooch on this one.