STATS Poll: 10/29/18

[kdinva]

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs



Rank
School
Votes
Prev


1
North Dakota State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0309) (8-0)
4000 (160)
1


2
Kennesaw State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2610) (7-1)
3777
2


3
James Madison (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0196) (6-2)
3665
3


4
Weber State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0119) (6-2)
3416
4


5
Eastern Washington (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0113) (6-2)
3209
5


6
UC Davis (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0263) (7-1)
3158
6


7
South Dakota State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0312) (5-2)
3084
7


8
Elon (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0350) (5-2)
2789
8


9
Wofford (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0267) (6-2)
2688
9


10
Jacksonville State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0247) (6-2)
2337
12


11
McNeese (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0180) (6-2)
2209
14


12
Colgate (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0160) (7-0)
2046
16


13
Delaware (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0195) (6-2)
1790
21


14
Illinois State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0121) (5-3)
1781
11


15
Towson (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0221) (6-2)
1774
10


16
Stony Brook (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0629) (6-3)
1479
15


17
North Carolina A&T (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0148) (6-2)
1414
18


18
Princeton (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0133) (7-0)
1345
19


19
Central Arkansas (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0268) (5-3)
1261
13


20
Nicholls (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0181) (5-3)
1003
20


21
Sam Houston State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0184) (5-3)
661
23


22
ETSU (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0173) (7-2)
567
25


23
Maine (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0203) (5-3)
548
24


24
Dartmouth (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0130) (7-0)
435
NR


25
Southeast Missouri State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0155) (6-2)
316
NR


Others: North Dakota (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0308) (314) , UNI (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0123) (262) , Florida A&M (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0145) (169) , Chattanooga (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0177) (163) , Idaho State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0115) (160) , Rhode Island (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0206) (87) , Western Illinois (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0126) (32) , San Diego (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0169) (20) , Monmouth (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0216) (20) , Alcorn State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0188) (12) , Montana State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0117) (4) ,Samford (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0218) (3) , Lamar (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2559) (1) , UIW (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2539) (1)

[kdinva]

FAMU should be neck and neck with NCA-T

Is Jax State too high?

[Professor Chaos]

Maybe I'm just feeling overly nice today (or maybe they've just set my expectations so low for this poll) but it's surprising not bad IMO. Jacksonville St, McNeese, and NC A&T too high and Idaho St waaaaay too low but compared to what they normally throw out there that's relatively not bad.

[FormerPokeCenter]

I was ready to agree with you until I saw that people had cast votes for UIW and Lamar...

[Reign of Terrier]

I'll be reductionist: The top 8 is fine, and the only teams outside that top 8 that should compete for a seed are Wofford, Delaware, and Towson.

Yes, I know, some may say Wofford shouldn't be included in there and I have a pro-Wofford bias, but I would debate they have a better resume than any outside of those top 8 + 2. Admittedly, that depends a little bit on what we know how they play in the playoffs but still and we have a not-good loss against Furman. But I still think that.

[SochorField]

UC Davis is not the 3rd best team in the Big Sky.

[nodak651]

UC Davis is not the 3rd best team in the Big Sky.

The 5-3 team with two fbs losses that took UC Davis to overtime should also be ranked higher than 30th.

[SochorField]

The 5-3 team with two fbs losses that took UC Davis to overtime should also be ranked higher than 30th.

100% agree

[Professor Chaos]

I'll be reductionist: The top 8 is fine, and the only teams outside that top 8 that should compete for a seed are Wofford, Delaware, and Towson.

Yes, I know, some may say Wofford shouldn't be included in there and I have a pro-Wofford bias, but I would debate they have a better resume than any outside of those top 8 + 2. Admittedly, that depends a little bit on what we know how they play in the playoffs but still and we have a not-good loss against Furman. But I still think that.
Ok, I'll bite.

What's your argument for Wofford over Delaware and Towson?

[GoBlueHens83]

FAMU should be neck and neck with NCA-T

Is Jax State too high?

I thought that too until I took a closer look at the FAMU schedule. A&T is their only quality win, while A&T has an FBS win and a win over Jax St.

[Reign of Terrier]

Ok, I'll bite.

What's your argument for Wofford over Delaware and Towson?

I don't think I have one yet. I may not have been clear with that post, I meant that Wofford should be in the conversation for a seed with Delaware and Towson, not that they would be ahead.

But if I were to make that argument, it would be that a 9-2 Wofford will be a conference champion and have more playoff wins in the last 2 years (or more) than both. I admit our OOC is bad and that loss to Furman doesn't look good but if we beat Samford and Western by double digits (I honestly expect us to hand Western and PC easily), I think at the very least our aggregate performance is seed-worthy. If we were worthy of a seed last year, we'd be worthy of a seed this year even more so. If Furman finished 5-5 or 6-4, the loss doesn't look as bad (kind of like Delaware's loss to URI).

That's not to say that will be the reasoning of the committee though.

[MacThor]

When the six-way @#$%-show atop the CAA resolves itself, I have a feeling Elon is going to regret canceling their game against W&M.

[WileECoyote06]

I thought that too until I took a closer look at the FAMU schedule. A&T is their only quality win, while A&T has an FBS win and a win over Jax St.

Somebody who looks at the entire schedule! xdrunkyx

[POD Knows]

I thought that too until I took a closer look at the FAMU schedule. A&T is their only quality win, while A&T has an FBS win and a win over Jax St.NCAT lost to freaking Morgan State or something, is Jax State a quality win? Maybe, depends on who you talk to. FAMU's SOS is about the same as JSU. FAMU had a terrible loss as well but NCAT and FAMU are close and the head to head was the decider for me.

[GoBlueHens83]

NCAT lost to freaking Morgan State or something, is Jax State a quality win? Maybe, depends on who you talk to. FAMU's SOS is about the same as JSU. FAMU had a terrible loss as well but NCAT and FAMU are close and the head to head was the decider for me.

Teams lose games they should win every week, it happens. The Morgan State loss is an outlier though in my honest opinion. Jacksonville State and ECU are better wins than anything FAMU has. Also, one of FAMU's wins is a non-D1 win, so that also hurt them when I compared the two this week. FAMU is on my radar, but right now, A&T gets the nod.

[Cocky]

Ok, I'll bite.

What's your argument for Wofford over Delaware and Towson?

Why should SDSU be ranked over Delaware or Towson?

[dewey]

Why should SDSU be ranked over Delaware or Towson?

Here is my thinking (right or wrong).

I do not think SDSU should be ranked above Towson but Delaware I am not so sure. SDSU has a LOT of injuries right now. The way Delaware got their doors absolutely blown off at NDSU (the game was not as close as the 38-10 would show you) and a week later SDSU lost @ NDSU 21-17. Meanwhile Towson has 1 FBS loss (Wake Forest 51-20) and 1 close FCS loss at Delaware (40-36).

Dewey

[Thumper 76]

Here is my thinking (right or wrong).

I do not think SDSU should be ranked above Towson but Delaware I am not so sure. SDSU has a LOT of injuries right now. The way Delaware got their doors absolutely blown off at NDSU (the game was not as close as the 38-10 would show you) and a week later SDSU lost @ NDSU 21-17. Meanwhile Towson has 1 FBS loss (Wake Forest 51-20) and 1 close FCS loss at Delaware (40-36).

Dewey

Yeah, when your beat writer puts out a tweet on injuries that ends up being a 5 tweet thread, you’re dinged up. Honestly that’s the biggest reason I want SDSU to get a seed, we’re going to need that bye week. We are getting some people back, if we get remotely healthy by the playoffs look out. We did get Genant back on the O line last week so that certainly helped. We need to get Wilson healthy at rb or Daniels needs to run violently like he did towards the end of the ISUr game.

That said I probably undervalued Towson and UD in my poll this week. There comes a point where the injuries are what they are and the team is what that are.


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[Cocky]

SDSU
Wins
4-4 Montana State - Best win 4-4 WIU
1-7 Ark PB
4-4 ISUb went to OT - Best win take your pick EIU, SIU, YSU or Quincy
3-5 YSU loss to Butler
5-3 ISUr best win Colorado State (3-5), FCS WIU loss to Missouri State
Losses
8-0 NDSU understandable
4-4 UNI

Best win ISUr which didnt look very good Saturday. Tried every way in the world to end the game in the first half

Towson
Wins
2-6 Morgan State
3-5 Nova beat Temple (5-3)
2-5 Citadel
6-3 Stony Brook losses are to Air Force, JMU and Towson Best win RI
3-5 WM
2-6 Albany
Losses
4-4 Wake Forrest
6-2 Delaware
Best win Stony Brook and losses are to good teams

Delaware
Wins
3-5 Lafayette
3-4 Cornell
3-5 Richmond
5-2 Elon beat JMU and Furman Loss to S Florida
2-6 UNH Best game was playing Colgate close early in the season
6-2 Towson Best win Stony Brook Loss Wake Forest
Best win either Towson or Elon Losses RI early in the season but not a good loss, NDSU understandable


I dont give anyone injury credits as all teams have them. Depth is part of being a top level football team.

Delaware has two good wins against Towson and Elon. Neither Towson or Elon have a bad loss and both have good wins. Delawares loss to Rhode Island (5-3) doesnt look great but not a terrible loss.

Towson has a good win against Stony Brook. SB doesnt have a bad loss their best win would be Rhode Island.

SDSU has a good win against ISUr. ISUr has a win against (3-6) Colorado State best FCS win WIU and a loss to Missouri State.

Hard to find anything to say SDSU is several spots better than either. Also hard to see why both are below any team from 7 down.

[CockyGeek]

JSU should be 13-15. I think McNeese and Delaware would definitely trounce them right now.

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[Professor Chaos]

I dont give anyone injury credits as all teams have them. Depth is part of being a top level football team.
Bingo!

I look at the injuries argument when ranking teams the same way I look at the eye test argument when rankings teams. If you don't have a rundown of every injury from every team in contention it's not really fair to give one team a pass due to injuries. Similarly, if you use the eye test to rank a team higher or lower it's not really fair unless you're watching every team in contention.

[BisonTru]

21. Sam Houston
26. North Dakota
30. Idaho State

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[Schism55]

21. Sam Houston
26. North Dakota
30. Idaho State

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You've put it as succinctly as possible.
/hi-5

[Cocky]

Bingo!

I look at the injuries argument when ranking teams the same way I look at the eye test argument when rankings teams. If you don't have a rundown of every injury from every team in contention it's not really fair to give one team a pass due to injuries. Similarly, if you use the eye test to rank a team higher or lower it's not really fair unless you're watching every team in contention.


Eye test is probably the reason for my post. I thought Delaware and Towson looked better than SDSU or ISUr Saturday. Had a chance to watch a fair amount of both games.
Hard for me to understand how SDSU plays NDSU tough most times.

[GoBlueHens83]

Here is my thinking (right or wrong).

I do not think SDSU should be ranked above Towson but Delaware I am not so sure. SDSU has a LOT of injuries right now. The way Delaware got their doors absolutely blown off at NDSU (the game was not as close as the 38-10 would show you) and a week later SDSU lost @ NDSU 21-17. Meanwhile Towson has 1 FBS loss (Wake Forest 51-20) and 1 close FCS loss at Delaware (40-36).

Dewey

First, let me say that I think SDSU is better than Delaware and I have them ranked that way.

But do you think it's possible that you may be leaning on the loss to NDSU a little too hard? UD looked bad, but I've watched a lot of good teams go into Fargo and get smashed like that. UD gave up a quick score then on the first play threw a pick 6 and the game was over. I'm not saying that if the game was played again that it would be a different result, but Delaware is playing better football recently.

[TheKingpin28]

Eye test is probably the reason for my post. I thought Delaware and Towson looked better than SDSU or ISUr Saturday. Had a chance to watch a fair amount of both games.
Hard for me to understand how SDSU plays NDSU tough most times.

Dallas Goedert, Jake Wieneke, TC, Austin Sumner, Zach "4yd" Zenner, Wilson, Christian "Ankle-Twister" Roozeboom, Joose, etc...

Teams always do what they have to, to play their rivals tough, and with both teams coming up at the same time, you always want to ensure your "little brother" is in the place where they belong. SDSU didn't recruit to win the Valley, the recruited to beat NDSU, which is what teams need to do if they plan on supplanting them.

[dewey]

First, let me say that I think SDSU is better than Delaware and I have them ranked that way.

But do you think it's possible that you may be leaning on the loss to NDSU a little too hard? UD looked bad, but I've watched a lot of good teams go into Fargo and get smashed like that. UD gave up a quick score then on the first play threw a pick 6 and the game was over. I'm not saying that if the game was played again that it would be a different result, but Delaware is playing better football recently.I think it is true that Delaware is clearly better now than they were earlier in the season. I also agree that the game snowballed quickly on Delaware and once it was 28-0 the game was over. Would a second game be closer? Probably.

Dewey

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[POD Knows]

Eye test is probably the reason for my post. I thought Delaware and Towson looked better than SDSU or ISUr Saturday. Had a chance to watch a fair amount of both games.
Hard for me to understand how SDSU plays NDSU tough most times.SDSU has been pretty balanced on offense as of late, they have some NFL talent at critical skill positions and they always seem to play good D against us for some reason. They will hold us to 20 and then have some **** bag drop 35 on them. It is weird.

[MR. CHICKEN]

I think it is true that Delaware is clearly better now than they were earlier in the season. I also agree that the game snowballed quickly on Delaware and once it was 28-0 the game was over. Would a second game be closer? Probably.

Dewey

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......SOUFF DAKOTAH STATE.....SEES BIZONSSSSS........EVERAH YEAR......BEEN TA DOME....ALOT.....AN' AS YOUSE ALL SAY....RECRUIT....TA KEEP UP....WHIFF 'EM......VERAH GOOD TEAMS.....FROM OTHERAH CONFERENCES....COME INTA DAT ENVIRONMENT FIRST TIME......AN' ARE SHOCKED SILLY....BAH DEY'RE ADVANTAGES......JUMPED ON QUICK....AN' GAME OVERAH.........WHAT...DO BIZON FANS DO...FO' ENTERTAINMENT....IN SECOND HALF????

[dewey]

......SOUFF DAKOTAH STATE.....SEES BIZONSSSSS........EVERAH YEAR......BEEN TA DOME....ALOT.....AN' AS YOUSE SAY....RECRUIT....TA KEEP UP....WHIFF 'EM......VERAH GOOD TEAMS.....FROM OTHERAH CONFERENCES....COME INTA DAT ENVIRONMENT FIRST TIME......AN' ARE SHOCKED SILLY....BAH DEY'RE ADVANTAGES......JUMPED ON QUICK....AN' GAME OVERAH.........WHAT...DO BIZON FANS DO...FO' ENTERTAINMENT....IN SECOND HALF????I can say that in the 2nd half we stay and watch the backups (a lot of times future starters) get more experience.

This is obvious not what everyone else does.

Dewey

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[POD Knows]

I can say that in the 2nd half we stay and watch the backups (a lot of times future starters) get more experience.

This is obvious not what everyone else does.

Dewey

Sent from my SM-G930V using TapatalkI stay to the bitter end of every game. I have never understood leaving at halftime unless you are a raging alcoholic and get the DT's by the half or you have a funeral to go to or something.

[Professor Chaos]

SDSU has been pretty balanced on offense as of late, they have some NFL talent at critical skill positions and they always seem to play good D against us for some reason. They will hold us to 20 and then have some **** bag drop 35 on them. It is weird.
It wasn't too long ago that SDSU snapped a 7 year (and 8 game) losing streak to the Bison. Losing that much to the same team has to drive players crazy especially when they had good teams during pretty much all of that stretch (2010-2015). I don't think I'm being overly dramatic when I say that SDSU brings their "A" game pretty much every time they play the Bison. They certainly didn't bring it the week after against Indiana St.

[Kemo]

The X-factor when comparing SDSU's resume to that of Delaware and Towson is the UNI loss.

I complain about my Jackrabbits having a "WTF" game or two a year, but it's nothing compared to the bi-polar nature of the Purple Kittens in the 2010's. They generally have 4 understandable-to-good loses and beat an upper echelon team per season. Depending on what color of Kool-Aid you drink, a team's performance against UNI can be claimed as a quality win, a quality loss, an average win, or a bad loss (if you are a highly ranked team), but the truth of the matter is a lose/victory to Northern Iowa could fall into any of these categories depending on what UNI team decided to show up (though it's impossible to quantify). I'd say the only thing they've been consistent at is having the highest disparity between their ceiling and their floor season within a single season, season after season.

I kind of wonder what the CAA records would look like if they had to play Panther-Roulette every year like the MVFC does.

[Reign of Terrier]

The X-factor when comparing SDSU's resume to that of Delaware and Towson is the UNI loss.

I complain about my Jackrabbits having a "WTF" game or two a year, but it's nothing compared to the bi-polar nature of the Purple Kittens in the 2010's. They generally have 4 understandable-to-good loses and beat an upper echelon team per season. Depending on what color of Kool-Aid you drink, a team's performance against UNI can be claimed as a quality win, a quality loss, an average win, or a bad loss (if you are a highly ranked team), but the truth of the matter is a lose/victory to Northern Iowa could fall into any of these categories depending on what UNI team decided to show up (though it's impossible to quantify). I'd say the only thing they've been consistent at is having the highest disparity between their ceiling and their floor season within a single season, season after season.

I kind of wonder what the CAA records would look like if they had to play Panther-Roulette every year like the MVFC does.Sounds a lot like Furman, except Furman hasn't had one spectacular season in about a dozen years.

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[Reign of Terrier]

Also I have a general theory that, with some exceptions, the CAA is the Big 12 of FCS. Or at least they are at the top tier of the conference. With the exception of JMU and maybe Villanova (the high turnover of the conference is killer for any analysis) the defense seems to be pretty weak.

There's a lot of spread, lots of west coast-style throwing around the yard that seems to come out of the conference that's different from the power I MVFC or the multiple schemes in the Socon.

I think similar things can be said about the Southland and Big Sky but the success + lackluster defense in most teams is more pronounced in the CAA.



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[MR. CHICKEN]

Sounds a lot like Furman, except Furman hasn't had one spectacular season in about a dozen years.

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.....LACKLUSTER DEFENSE........AH PRESUME...xrolleyesx...AWK!

[Serpentor]

21. Sam Houston
26. North Dakota
30. Idaho State

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So how long are you letting Homer and Bart live in your living room?