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World
September 30th, 2018, 07:55 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/


1. North Dakota State
2. James Madison
3. South Dakota State
4. Northern Iowa
5. Illinois State
6. Eastern Washington
7. Princeton
8. Kennesaw State
9. Elon
10. Weber State
11. Wofford
12. Montana
13. South Dakota
14. UC Davis
15. Villanova
16. Missouri State
17. Jacksonville State
18. Colgate
19. Western Illinois
20. Stony Brook
21. Delaware
22. Nicholls State
23. Samford
24. Youngstown State
25. Central Arkansas

cx500d
September 30th, 2018, 09:20 PM
#5?

Reign of Terrier
September 30th, 2018, 09:28 PM
Youngstown state loses and is still ranked.

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FormerPokeCenter
September 30th, 2018, 09:37 PM
Some of this doesn't make any sense. The schedules should be interconnected enough to not have Nicholls above McNeese, nor Central Arkansas above Sam Houston...

wcugrad95
September 30th, 2018, 09:46 PM
I am a SoCon homer, but Samford is 1-4. They'll probably smoke my Cats this coming weekend, but still - #23???

Reign of Terrier
September 30th, 2018, 10:42 PM
Computer rankings can be very helpful and accurate but when there isn't sufficient overlap between conferences, it will be flawed.

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Cocky
October 1st, 2018, 06:19 AM
Have to remember computer polls are just someones personal opinion disguised by a computer. Dont let it bother you.

Bison56
October 1st, 2018, 07:31 AM
https://media.makeameme.org/created/is-this-real-5b3392.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjCkqnQn-XdAhXtGTQIHcMSDDoQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmakeameme.org%2Fmeme%2Fis-this-real-5b3392&psig=AOvVaw18XST_PjTL0ROWyiWi0jxl&ust=1538483419447393)

Professor
October 1st, 2018, 08:27 AM
lol

DFW HOYA
October 1st, 2018, 09:08 AM
And on the other end of the scale:

246 Valparaiso (Pioneer)
247 Savannah State (MEAC)
248 Marist (Pioneer)
249 Morehead State (Pioneer)
251 Jacksonville (Pioneer)
252 Stetson (Pioneer)
253 Ark.-Pine Bluff (SWAC)
254 Davidson (Pioneer)
255 Mississippi Valley St. (SWAC)

kalm
October 1st, 2018, 09:17 AM
#5?

Everyone from a power conference below them also has one loss. They have one of the best wins in the subdivision. MSU’s start raises ISUr’s SOS profile for now (IOW’s not a bad loss).

This is actually a good poll for Sagarin this early in the season.

geaux_sioux
October 1st, 2018, 09:44 AM
So UNI has a proprietary algorithm?

BEAR
October 1st, 2018, 09:58 AM
142 Central Arkansas

146 South Alabama

BWAAAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA............... (sorry, had to get that out there. )

POD Knows
October 1st, 2018, 02:02 PM
And on the other end of the scale:

246 Valparaiso (Pioneer)
247 Savannah State (MEAC)
248 Marist (Pioneer)
249 Morehead State (Pioneer)
251 Jacksonville (Pioneer)
252 Stetson (Pioneer)
253 Ark.-Pine Bluff (SWAC)
254 Davidson (Pioneer)
255 Mississippi Valley St. (SWAC)Valpo lost to Davidson didn't they. Valpo is the worst team in the country.

caribbeanhen
October 1st, 2018, 03:00 PM
And on the other end of the scale:

246 Valparaiso (Pioneer)
247 Savannah State (MEAC)
248 Marist (Pioneer)
249 Morehead State (Pioneer)
251 Jacksonville (Pioneer)
252 Stetson (Pioneer)
253 Ark.-Pine Bluff (SWAC)
254 Davidson (Pioneer)
255 Mississippi Valley St. (SWAC)

half of those teams roll Delaware State

cx500d
October 1st, 2018, 05:50 PM
So UNI has a proprietary algorithm?


They use the same algorithm the selection committee uses for selecting UNH

MSUBear42
October 1st, 2018, 05:55 PM
142 Central Arkansas

146 South Alabama

BWAAAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA............... (sorry, had to get that out there. )

Computers don’t lie.

Thumper 76
October 1st, 2018, 06:00 PM
Woof


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Mocs123
October 1st, 2018, 07:02 PM
Samford might be the 23rd most talented team in the country, but at 1-4 and their only win against a D2 team, I find it hard to believe they are ranked 23 in any poll.

Katfan
October 3rd, 2018, 10:01 PM
I’d really like to understand this poll half of it usually makes sense but the other half has some real hard to understand ratings at least to me

ElCid
October 3rd, 2018, 10:39 PM
Samford might be the 23rd most talented team in the country, but at 1-4 and their only win against a D2 team, I find it hard to believe they are ranked 23 in any poll.

To be technical, it isn't a "poll" but simply a computer rating (based possibly on a flawed algorithm) racked and stacked to make a ranking. Preseason bias is still present and in Samford's case that close loss to FSU weighs HEAVY in a good way for them (FSU is rated as a top 50 FBS computer rated team). Plus their other 3 Div I opponents were good teams (#46, 41, and 22 in FCS). Plus, and I have to say it one more time, SAGARIN does NOT compute into its rantings any lower division games, so it is not even taking Samford's D2 game into account. Otherwise they would be lower simply due to SOS.