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AGSPoll
September 24th, 2018, 12:10 PM
9/24/2018



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes
Previous Wk.


1
North Dakota State Bison
2349
93
1


2
James Madison Dukes
2250
1
2


3
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2144

3


4
Eastern Washington Eagles
1968

5


5
Kennesaw State Owls
1881

4


6
Illinois State Redbirds
1826

10


7
Weber State Wildcats
1767

7


8
Wofford Terriers
1550

9


9
Maine Black Bears
1542

8


10
Elon Phoenix
1403

11


11
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
1150

13


12
McNeese State Cowboys
1149

12


13
UC Davis Aggies
1122

17


14
Villanova Wildcats
1121

15


15
Central Arkansas Bears
1017

14


16
North Carolina A&T Aggies
861

6


17
Nicholls State Colonels
775

21


18
Stony Brook Seawolves
744

20


19
Montana Grizzlies
686

22


20
Rhode Island Rams
664

19


21
Chattanooga Mocs
659

28


22
Northern Iowa Panthers
355

24


23
Towson Tigers
329

26


24
Montana State Bobcats
271

31


25
Western Illinois Leathernecks
255

25

















ORV:





26
Colgate Raiders
220

33


27
South Dakota Coyotes
120

30


28
Samford Bulldogs
69

16


29
Sam Houston State Bearkats
55

18


30
Princeton Tigers
53

37


31
Western Carolina Catamounts
32

40


32
Harvard Crimson
30

38


33
Sac State Hornets
29

29


34T
Missouri State Bears
21

36


34T
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
21

39


36
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
14

27


37
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12

23


38
Richmond Spiders
11

35


39
Youngstown State Penguins
10

NR


40
Austin Peay Governors
8

34










Most Significant Win:

Illinois State Redbirds




Most Significant Loss:

North Carolina A&T Aggies

























Fell Out Of Poll:






Mercer Bears


32

TheKingpin28
September 24th, 2018, 12:13 PM
1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Central Arkansas Bears
10: Maine Black Bears
11: Elon Phoenix
12: North Carolina A&T Aggies
13: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
14: Chattanooga Mocs
15: UC Davis Aggies
16: McNeese State Cowboys
17: Towson Tigers
18: Villanova Wildcats
19: Stony Brook Seawolves
20: Rhode Island Rams
21: Nicholls State Colonels
22: Montana Grizzlies
23: Northern Iowa Panthers
24: Colgate Raiders
25: Sac State Hornets

Win: ISUr
Loss: NCAT

Release the hounds

I will note that I was either perfect or 1 off on 13 of the 25. I am still disappointed in the voters for not showing Towson and Chatty enough love. Also, not sure how Sac St can drop so far when they played solid on the road at WaGriz.

Professor Chaos
September 24th, 2018, 12:21 PM
This week's poll article: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-4-top-25-results/

My thoughts:

7(!) CAA teams in the top 25.
UC Davis at #13 is their highest rank ever in the AGS poll.
Not much to gripe about this week... just minor stuff. :)
Montana St must've been the main beneficiary of the Samford/SHSU/UND flops as they picked up over 100 points and 7 spots for beating Portland State.
Nice to see Towson crack the top 25... although I still think the spread between them and Nova doesn't make much sense.
Still not sure what Wofford has done to dictate that they be in front of those 2 CAA teams right behind them.

Derby City Duke
September 24th, 2018, 12:31 PM
1
North Dakota State Bison


2
James Madison Dukes


3
South Dakota State Jackrabbits


4
Illinois State Redbirds


5
Kennesaw State Owls


6
Eastern Washington Eagles


7
Weber State Wildcats


8
Maine Black Bears


9
Nicholls State Colonels


10
Elon Phoenix


11
Wofford Terriers


12
Stony Brook Seawolves


13
Villanova Wildcats


14
UC Davis


15
Jacksonville State Gamecocks


16
McNeese State Cowboys


17
Northern Iowa Panthers


18
Central Arkansas Bears


19
Montana Grizzlies


20
South Dakota Coyotes


21
Sac State Hornets


22
Western Illinois Leathernecks


23
Chattanooga Mocs


24
Colgate Raiders


25
North Carolina A&T Aggies





Win: Illinois State
Loss: Sam Houston State

Conference: CAA

ElCid
September 24th, 2018, 12:32 PM
I can't believe people are still voting for # 37-40. Too funny. Must be homer votes.

World
September 24th, 2018, 12:36 PM
This week's poll article: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-4-top-25-results/

My thoughts:

7(!) CAA teams in the top 25.
UC Davis at #13 is their highest rank ever in the AGS poll.
Not much to gripe about this week... just minor stuff. :)
Montana St must've been the main beneficiary of the Samford/SHSU/UND flops as they picked up over 100 points and 7 spots for beating Portland State.
Nice to see Towson crack the top 25... although I still think the spread between them and Nova doesn't make much sense.
Still not sure what Wofford has done to dictate that they be in front of those 2 CAA teams right behind them.




Good point

Wofford belongs more in the 11 to 15 range at this point in time

Professor Chaos
September 24th, 2018, 12:39 PM
I can't believe people are still voting for # 37-40. Too funny. Must be homer votes.
You could add Samford to that group of headscratchers as the 3rd highest ORV vote getter. They've got more votes than those 4 combined. At least all those bottom 4 have a D1 win.

BEAR
September 24th, 2018, 12:40 PM
I guess playing BYE-U hurts a team's perception. xlolx

Daytripper
September 24th, 2018, 12:42 PM
1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Maine Black Bears
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Elon Phoenix
9: Weber State Wildcats
10: Wofford Terriers
11: Rhode Island Rams
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: UC Davis Aggies
14: North Carolina A&T Aggies
15: Chattanooga Mocs
16: James Madison Dukes
17: McNeese State Cowboys
18: Nicholls State Colonels
19: Central Arkansas Bears
20: Stony Brook Seawolves
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: Western Illinois Leathernecks
23: Montana Grizzlies
24: Colgate Raiders
25: Montana State Bobcats

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies

RootinFerDukes
September 24th, 2018, 12:42 PM
Who is still voting for Austin Peay?

Professor Chaos
September 24th, 2018, 12:43 PM
I guess playing BYE-U hurts a team's perception. xlolx
UCA actually picked up 68 points this week compared to last. It's just that UC Davis picked up almost 400 and Nova picked up over 200 to move in front of them.

Bison56
September 24th, 2018, 12:48 PM
1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Maine Black Bears
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Elon Phoenix
9: Weber State Wildcats
10: Wofford Terriers
11: Rhode Island Rams
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: UC Davis Aggies
14: North Carolina A&T Aggies
15: Chattanooga Mocs
16: James Madison Dukes
17: McNeese State Cowboys
18: Nicholls State Colonels
19: Central Arkansas Bears
20: Stony Brook Seawolves
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: Western Illinois Leathernecks
23: Montana Grizzlies
24: Colgate Raiders
25: Montana State Bobcats

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies

check out your #2 and #16

- - - Updated - - -


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Maine Black Bears
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Elon Phoenix
9: Weber State Wildcats
10: Wofford Terriers
11: Rhode Island Rams
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: UC Davis Aggies
14: North Carolina A&T Aggies
15: Chattanooga Mocs
16: James Madison Dukes
17: McNeese State Cowboys
18: Nicholls State Colonels
19: Central Arkansas Bears
20: Stony Brook Seawolves
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: Western Illinois Leathernecks
23: Montana Grizzlies
24: Colgate Raiders
25: Montana State Bobcats

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies

check out your #2 and #16

ElCid
September 24th, 2018, 12:49 PM
This week's poll article: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-4-top-25-results/

My thoughts:

7(!) CAA teams in the top 25.
UC Davis at #13 is their highest rank ever in the AGS poll.
Not much to gripe about this week... just minor stuff. :)
Montana St must've been the main beneficiary of the Samford/SHSU/UND flops as they picked up over 100 points and 7 spots for beating Portland State.
Nice to see Towson crack the top 25... although I still think the spread between them and Nova doesn't make much sense.
Still not sure what Wofford has done to dictate that they be in front of those 2 CAA teams right behind them.




Then please explain what Elon has done? I will give you Maine got a scalp as a slight edge. But Elon is based on expectation still but both them and Wofford getting it done. Their wins/FBS loss are not grossly dissimilar.

caribbeanhen
September 24th, 2018, 12:49 PM
I can't believe people are still voting for # 37-40. Too funny. Must be homer votes.


I would extend it out to #36 - 40..... Delaware started out in the preseason Poll way to high

Kennesaw is stil getting blind love like the new girl that moved into town that you saw on the first day of Jr High school

Like the Prof said, the spread between Towson and Nova doesnt make much sense

Tribe4SF
September 24th, 2018, 12:49 PM
1
North Dakota State Bison


2
James Madison Dukes


3
South Dakota State Jackrabbits


4
Illinois State Redbirds


5
Kennesaw State Owls


6
Eastern Washington Eagles


7
Weber State Wildcats


8
Maine Black Bears


9
Nicholls State Colonels


10
Elon Phoenix


11
Wofford Terriers


12
Stony Brook Seawolves


13
Villanova Wildcats


14
UC Davis


15
Jacksonville State Gamecocks


16
McNeese State Cowboys


17
Northern Iowa Panthers


18
Central Arkansas Bears


19
Montana Grizzlies


20
South Dakota Coyotes


21
Sac State Hornets


22
Western Illinois Leathernecks


23
Chattanooga Mocs


24
Colgate Raiders


25
North Carolina A&T Aggies




Win: Illinois State
Loss: Sam Houston State

Conference: CAA

Towson getting no love from you? They put it on Nova at Nova. 528 yds. of offense and held the ball for 35 minutes. Their Morgan State win looks better after the Bears took down NC A&T. URI also seems deserving.

ElCid
September 24th, 2018, 12:50 PM
You could add Samford to that group of headscratchers as the 3rd highest ORV vote getter. They've got more votes than those 4 combined. At least all those bottom 4 have a D1 win.

That's true. I think they are still getting some FSU love. They fell out of mine. Along with SHSU.

Daytripper
September 24th, 2018, 12:50 PM
check out your #2 and #16

- - - Updated - - -



check out your #2 and #16

Argghhhhh!!

ElCid
September 24th, 2018, 12:51 PM
I would extend it out to #36 - 40..... Delaware started out in the preseason Poll way to high

Kennesaw is stil getting blind love like the new girl that moved into town that you saw on the first day of Jr High school

Like the Prof said, the spread between Towson and Nova doesnt make much sense


This is seriously funny.

RootinFerDukes
September 24th, 2018, 12:51 PM
Then please explain what Elon has done? I will give you Maine got a scalp as a slight edge. But Elon is based on expectation still but both them and Wofford getting it done. Their wins/FBS loss are not grossly dissimilar.

Keep winning? Not losing?

JSUSoutherner
September 24th, 2018, 12:52 PM
1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Maine Black Bears
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Elon Phoenix
9: Weber State Wildcats
10: Wofford Terriers
11: Rhode Island Rams
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: UC Davis Aggies
14: North Carolina A&T Aggies
15: Chattanooga Mocs
16: James Madison Dukes
17: McNeese State Cowboys
18: Nicholls State Colonels
19: Central Arkansas Bears
20: Stony Brook Seawolves
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: Western Illinois Leathernecks
23: Montana Grizzlies
24: Colgate Raiders
25: Montana State Bobcats

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
James Madison second string is 16th? Wow.

I assume your 16 was us and it was a misclick? I think JMU is right above us in the list.

Reign of Terrier
September 24th, 2018, 12:53 PM
This week's poll article: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-4-top-25-results/



Still not sure what Wofford has done to dictate that they be in front of those 2 CAA teams right behind them.



Few reasons:

slot voting+name recognition+ made a small run in the playoffs and have a lot of starters returning
Played an FBS Wyoming team tough without 2 defensive starters in the high altitude
Compared to last season, played the Citadel and VMI better in every statistical way, except turnover margin with the citadel
The Citadel looks decent right now.


People's tune will change if the Citadel beats Towson this week.

Heck, the Socon itself will turn around if the Citadel, Samford, Chattanooga, and Wofford win next week. Could have 4 teams ranked.

ElCid
September 24th, 2018, 12:54 PM
Keep winning? Not losing?

They are both 2-1 with FBS losses. Maine is 2-1 with one FBS win and 1 loss.

JSUSoutherner
September 24th, 2018, 12:54 PM
Also what are the orange and pink highlighted numbers supposed to mean?

JSUSoutherner
September 24th, 2018, 12:55 PM
Is that JMU's 2nd team you have ranked at 16th? ;)
I already made that joke.

Get in line. :D

ElCid
September 24th, 2018, 12:56 PM
Also what are the orange and pink highlighted numbers supposed to mean?

I think that that is how close they are so watch your votes? That is how I took it.

jmu007
September 24th, 2018, 12:56 PM
1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Kennesaw State Owls
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Maine Black Bears
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Elon Phoenix
10: Illinois State Redbirds
11: McNeese State Cowboys
12: Nicholls State Colonels
13: Towson Tigers
14: Villanova Wildcats
15: North Carolina A&T Aggies
16: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17: UC Davis Aggies
18: Rhode Island Rams
19: Central Arkansas Bears
20: Montana Grizzlies
21: Stony Brook Seawolves
22: Chattanooga Mocs
23: Colgate Raiders
24: Sam Houston State Bearkats
25: Montana State Bobcats

OhioHen
September 24th, 2018, 12:57 PM
check out your #2 and #16


Argghhhhh!!

Ursus tried to get a response multiple times based on the "Poll Voters Who Need to Check Email" thread.

jmu007
September 24th, 2018, 12:57 PM
I still don’t feel great about my poll, but it’s better than last week.

Redbird 4th & short
September 24th, 2018, 12:58 PM
Apparently beating a weak FBS is worth about the same as a bye week ... moved up same amount the last 2 weeks !!! xrolleyesx

Top 6 or 8 seems fair given who we've played, AND our inconsistency the past 2 seasons. I fall on the side of argument that says, 3 games into new season, you're still considering prior year and overal program history/strength when ranking teams ... same argument I had with NC A&T. But how we beat CSU was somewhat impressive, but this was a game many of us believed we should win on paper. The only question in our eyes was their pass game against our largely new defense .. we have 9 new full time starters on defense, everyone else was 2nd string and/or only started couple games last year.

Offensively, the difference this year ? Returning 4.5 OL starters (instead of losing 4.5 starters plus several injuries last year), getting OC Beathard back, our WR group is better than expected, plus a QB transfer (Brady Davis) who has provided a spark on offense. Others on our fan board disagree, but I happen to think Kolbe would have been doing just as well as new guy given all the improvements on offense across the board. But Davis is the full time starter and Kolbe is #2. But our Run game will be very hard to stop behind our now ready OL, which open things up for pass game ... plus with OC Beathard back in charge, we believe the Jeckyl & Hyde BS of last 2 years under OC Dicken is behind us.

Beathard is not just smart/experienced, he's also a QB whisperer type who never loses his cool. Former OC Dicken was wired way too tight and reactive .. Kolbe lost all confidence trying to placate him. Plus Spack had Dicken on short leash .. so that made things worse with Dicken trying to keep his job. Those who recall me making excuses for my Redbirds the last 2 years .. this was our problem in a nutshell. Just look at our ups and downs ... beat Northwestern one week, lost to EIU and InSU the next 2. Get blown out by NAU and SIU one week, man handle top 8 USD and YSU the next 2 weeks. Once teams figured us out on offense, Dicken had no plan B .. he would just lose his cool. Several games we lost our sh-t after great first half .. WIU and ISUb ... they made adjustments, we had no plan B. Hoping those days are mostly over now.

POD Knows
September 24th, 2018, 01:00 PM
Argghhhhh!!I think the boss threw your poll out because you weren't responding to his pm's and emails.

Professor Chaos
September 24th, 2018, 01:00 PM
Then please explain what Elon has done? I will give you Maine got a scalp as a slight edge. But Elon is based on expectation still but both them and Wofford getting it done. Their wins/FBS loss are not grossly dissimilar.
I think Elon's wins are clearly better. In my opinion beating Furman by 38 is much more impressive than beating The Citadel by 7 and I think Chuck South is actually a semi-quality win whereas VMI is just "cannon fodder". Both teams showed well against their FBS teams given the relative strength of each FBS team (USF is quite a bit better than Wyoming) so I don't give either an edge there.

POD Knows
September 24th, 2018, 01:01 PM
Hello POD Knows,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/23/2018 8:56:11

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Elon Phoenix
9: Wofford Terriers
10: Maine Black Bears
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: North Carolina A&T Aggies
13: Stony Brook Seawolves
14: Nicholls State Colonels
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: Towson Tigers
17: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
18: Rhode Island Rams
19: UC Davis Aggies
20: Chattanooga Mocs
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: Montana Grizzlies
23: Colgate Raiders
24: Northern Iowa Panthers
25: Montana State Bobcats

POD Knows

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

Professor Chaos
September 24th, 2018, 01:06 PM
Apparently beating a weak FBS is worth about the same as a bye week ... moved up same amount the last 2 weeks !!! xrolleyesx

It's a common misconception but it's more accurate to look at points gained vs spots gained when determining how impressed the voter pool is with a team. From week 2 to 3 ISUr picked up 179 points which was good for a 3 spot move (but an average of less than 2 spots moved up per ballot). From last week to this week they picked up 473 points which is an average of about a 5 spot move up per ballot even though they only moved up 4 spots in the overall consensus poll.

Silenoz
September 24th, 2018, 01:07 PM
Hmm, so if we hadn't blown that WIU game, we'd probably be creeping towards the top ten, and have a very easy road to 6-0. Kind of crazy, considering how many dysfunctions this Griz team has.


edit: Wait, what am I saying? It doesn't matter how bad Poly is, we'll probably **** that up like usual.

Reign of Terrier
September 24th, 2018, 01:08 PM
I think Elon's wins are clearly better. In my opinion beating Furman by 38 is much more impressive than beating The Citadel by 7 and I think Chuck South is actually a semi-quality win whereas VMI is just "cannon fodder". Both teams showed well against their FBS teams given the relative strength of each FBS team (USF is quite a bit better than Wyoming) so I don't give either an edge there.

FWIW, Furman is not that good this year. It's hard to say if they are average or bad, but they lost their OC from last year, an All American Center and a very good QB. Their offense is a shell of what they used to be. They are 0-3 again and lost to an ETSU team they pulverized last year. So I agree that Elon's win was impressive because Furman is probably average and beating average teams like that is good.

However, I'll defend Wofford's wins over VMI and The Citadel thus: Wofford's the only FCS team this year to put VMI away in the first half. VMI is measurably better on offense, and we played better on both sides of the ball (check the yardage, etc). We also played much better against the Citadel than we did last year, never losing lead and keeping the Citadel in the game by being -3 in TO margin (compared to last year where we needed a last minute comeback). And the Citadel is better this year, playing a Chattanooga team who will probably make the playoffs to OT and losing to us, but beating a strong Mercer team.

I'm not going to argue Wofford being higher (I think I rank us consistently at 10 or so), but I will make the argument that we've performed much better than last year (so far) and that if you think last year's team deserved a top 10-12 ranking, so far we deserve that + a little better.

ElCid
September 24th, 2018, 01:08 PM
I think Elon's wins are clearly better. In my opinion beating Furman by 38 is much more impressive than beating The Citadel by 7 and I think Chuck South is actually a semi-quality win whereas VMI is just "cannon fodder". Both teams showed well against their FBS teams given the relative strength of each FBS team (USF is quite a bit better than Wyoming) so I don't give either an edge there.

At the beginning of the year I would have said yes, but you did see that ETSU beat Furman right? Furman is a train wreck right now. And beating us by 7 is about right since we both run the option. I think their were like 10 possessions in the game. We were not going to have a shoot out. Chuck South is an enigma still. Wish our game was not postponed. I guess I have just seen these teams play and it the parity is there. I am loath to mention that VMI almost took it to WCU on the road. Cannon fodder, yeah, but they have fight in them still. I gave the FBS wins a wash as well due to competition and point spread.

Professor Chaos
September 24th, 2018, 01:11 PM
FWIW, Furman is not that good this year. It's hard to say if they are average or bad, but they lost their OC from last year, an All American Center and a very good QB. Their offense is a shell of what they used to be. They are 0-3 again and lost to an ETSU team they pulverized last year. So I agree that Elon's win was impressive because Furman is probably average and beating average teams like that is good.

However, I'll defend Wofford's wins over VMI and The Citadel thus: Wofford's the only FCS team this year to put VMI away in the first half. VMI is measurably better on offense, and we played better on both sides of the ball (check the yardage, etc). We also played much better against the Citadel than we did last year, never losing lead and keeping the Citadel in the game by being -3 in TO margin (compared to last year where we needed a last minute comeback). And the Citadel is better this year, playing a Chattanooga team who will probably make the playoffs to OT and losing to us, but beating a strong Mercer team.

I'm not going to argue Wofford being higher (I think I rank us consistently at 10 or so), but I will make the argument that we've performed much better than last year (so far) and that if you think last year's team deserved a top 10-12 ranking, so far we deserve that + a little better.

At the beginning of the year I would have said yes, but you did see that ETSU beat Furman right? Furman is a train wreck right now. And beating us by 7 is about right since we both run the option. I think their were like 10 possessions in the game. We were not going to have a shoot out. Chuck South is an enigma still. Wish our game was not postponed. I guess I have just seen these teams play and it the parity is there. I am loath to mention that VMI almost took it to WCU on the road. Cannon fodder, yeah, but they have fight in them still. I gave the FBS wins a wash as well due to competition and point spread.
You both could be right. I did concede in my first post it's just a minor gripe. With their schedules both Wofford and Elon will have many more chances throughout the rest of the year to prove who's better.

WileECoyote06
September 24th, 2018, 01:12 PM
I'm a little higher on UC-Davis and Stony Brook than some others; but overall my poll looks very similar to this one. I think I chose Colgate over Montana State; and it was a toss-up.

Mayville Bison
September 24th, 2018, 01:16 PM
1

North Dakota State


2

James Madison


3

South Dakota State


4

Wofford


5

Weber State


6

Illinois State


7

Eastern Washington


8

Kennesaw State


9

Maine


10

Villanova


11

Jacksonville State


12

Central Arkansas


13

Elon


14

Stony Brook


15

UC Davis


16

NC A&T


17

McNeese State


18

Nicholls State


19

Chattanooga


20

Colgate


21

Montana


22

Montana State


23

Towson


24

Missouri State


25

Western Carolina



The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

ursus arctos horribilis
September 24th, 2018, 01:17 PM
1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Maine Black Bears
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Elon Phoenix
9: Weber State Wildcats
10: Wofford Terriers
11: Rhode Island Rams
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: UC Davis Aggies
14: North Carolina A&T Aggies
15: Chattanooga Mocs
16: James Madison Dukes
17: McNeese State Cowboys
18: Nicholls State Colonels
19: Central Arkansas Bears
20: Stony Brook Seawolves
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: Western Illinois Leathernecks
23: Montana Grizzlies
24: Colgate Raiders
25: Montana State Bobcats

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies

Your vote didn't count because you had an error you not only did not catch, you did not reply to my email to you or the several shout outs I made on the thread specifically for people needing to reply to emails. Some of you guys make my life really f'n miserable because you can't check your emails for some reason.

Reign of Terrier
September 24th, 2018, 01:18 PM
As the resident Wofford homer I will say this: We are not a top 5 team (yet?) so don't rank us there. Coach Conklin may well be the Keeler to Ayer's Raymond (few people will get that reference) but that has yet to be seen.

PantherRob82
September 24th, 2018, 01:18 PM
Hello PantherRob82,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/23/2018 19:35:29

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Illinois State Redbirds
6: UC Davis Aggies
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Towson Tigers
9: Maine Black Bears
10: Rhode Island Rams
11: Wofford Terriers
12: Montana State Bobcats
13: Western Illinois Leathernecks
14: Villanova Wildcats
15: Montana Grizzlies
16: Nicholls State Colonels
17: Kennesaw State Owls
18: McNeese State Cowboys
19: Stony Brook Seawolves
20: Weber State Wildcats
21: Central Arkansas Bears
22: Harvard Crimson
23: Princeton Tigers
24: Colgate Raiders
25: North Carolina A&T Aggies

PantherRob82

The Most Significant Win: Nicholls State Colonels
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

ursus arctos horribilis
September 24th, 2018, 01:21 PM
check out your #2 and #16

- - - Updated - - -



check out your #2 and #16

Exactly.

Derby City Duke
September 24th, 2018, 01:21 PM
Towson getting no love from you? They put it on Nova at Nova. 528 yds. of offense and held the ball for 35 minutes. Their Morgan State win looks better after the Bears took down NC A&T. URI also seems deserving.

One game doesn't a season make or a poll placement earn. Towson also gave up 490 yards of offense; it was a 1-score game w/8 minutes to go in the 4th; Towson nearly coughed up a 3-TD lead.

I don't put nearly as much stock in Morgan State's win @ A&T as you do. I watched that game specifically last night and came away singularly unimpressed. The Bears are still 1-3 and A&T's offense is crap.

That said, both Towson and URI are within 5-10 spots of a place on my ballot.

ursus arctos horribilis
September 24th, 2018, 01:25 PM
I think that that is how close they are so watch your votes? That is how I took it.

Yes. I figured within 1 pt. I would highlight it to make it very obvious.

ursus arctos horribilis
September 24th, 2018, 01:28 PM
I think the boss threw your poll out because you weren't responding to his pm's and emails.

trudat.

grizband
September 24th, 2018, 01:30 PM
1. North Dakota State
2. James Madison
3. South Dakota State
4. Kennesaw State
5. Eastern Washington
6. Wofford
7. Weber State
8. Maine
9. Illinois State
10. McNeese State
11. UC Davis
12. Jacksonville State
13. Villanova
14. North Carolina A&T
15. Elon
16. Rhode Island
17. Stony Brook
18. Chattanooga
19. Montana
20. Central Arkansas
21. Montana State
22. Northern Iowa
23. Towson
24. Nicholls State
25. Colgate

Biggest Win: North Dakota State
Biggest Loss: North Carolina A&T

Preferred Walk-On
September 24th, 2018, 01:32 PM
This week's poll article: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-4-top-25-results/

My thoughts:

7(!) CAA teams in the top 25.
UC Davis at #13 is their highest rank ever in the AGS poll.
Not much to gripe about this week... just minor stuff. :)
Montana St must've been the main beneficiary of the Samford/SHSU/UND flops as they picked up over 100 points and 7 spots for beating Portland State.
Nice to see Towson crack the top 25... although I still think the spread between them and Nova doesn't make much sense.
Still not sure what Wofford has done to dictate that they be in front of those 2 CAA teams right behind them.





Hello Preferred Walk-On,
We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/23/2018 15:51:23
Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Kennesaw State Owls - Still in love with that Jr high girl...for now.
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Elon Phoenix - See other discussion on this thread.
7: Illinois State Redbirds - Nice win.
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
10: Central Arkansas Bears - Might be a bit high and too separated from McNeese State.
11: Weber State Wildcats
12: UC Davis Aggies - Debated flipping 12 and 11.
13: McNeese State Cowboys
14: Stony Brook Seawolves - For 14-16, you can probably flip a coin.
15: Rhode Island Rams
16: Maine Black Bears
17: Nicholls State Colonels
18: Villanova Wildcats - I somewhat agree with Professor Chaos above, so not ranking Towson might be a minor miss on my part (they were 26 in my poll).
19: Chattanooga Mocs - Congrats on 4-0.
20: Montana State Bobcats - Using early season head-to-head as the major criteria (similar to that which was suggested last week and was suggested for Villanova/Towson above)...then MSU beat WIU beat UM beat UNI; all by 4 pts or less and ranked in that order).
21: Western Illinois Leathernecks
22: Montana Grizzlies
23: Northern Iowa Panthers
24: North Carolina A&T Aggies
25: Colgate Raiders


The Most Significant Win: Chattanooga Mocs
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

caribbeanhen
September 24th, 2018, 01:34 PM
Hello POD Knows,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/23/2018 8:56:11

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Elon Phoenix
9: Wofford Terriers
10: Maine Black Bears
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: North Carolina A&T Aggies
13: Stony Brook Seawolves
14: Nicholls State Colonels
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: Towson Tigers
17: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
18: Rhode Island Rams
19: UC Davis Aggies
20: Chattanooga Mocs
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: Montana Grizzlies
23: Colgate Raiders
24: Northern Iowa Panthers
25: Montana State Bobcats

POD Knows

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference


if you had em that close might as well go with the winner

Reign of Terrier
September 24th, 2018, 01:35 PM
Hello Preferred Walk-On,
We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/23/2018 15:51:23
Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Kennesaw State Owls - Still in love with that Jr high girl...for now.
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Elon Phoenix - See other discussion on this thread.
7: Illinois State Redbirds - Nice win.
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
10: Central Arkansas Bears - Might be a bit high and too separated from McNeese State.
11: Weber State Wildcats
12: UC Davis Aggies - Debated flipping 12 and 11.
13: McNeese State Cowboys
14: Stony Brook Seawolves - For 14-16, you can probably flip a coin.
15: Rhode Island Rams
16: Maine Black Bears
17: Nicholls State Colonels
18: Villanova Wildcats - I somewhat agree with Professor Chaos above, so not ranking Towson might be a minor miss on my part (they were 26 in my poll).
19: Chattanooga Mocs - Congrats on 4-0.
20: Montana State Bobcats - Using early season head-to-head as the major criteria (similar to that which was suggested last week and was suggested for Villanova/Towson above)...then MSU beat WIU beat UM beat UNI; all by 4 pts or less and ranked in that order).
21: Western Illinois Leathernecks
22: Montana Grizzlies
23: Northern Iowa Panthers
24: North Carolina A&T Aggies
25: Colgate Raiders


The Most Significant Win: Chattanooga Mocs
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

sidenote, with you quoting him and opening with "hello preferred walk on" I read that as hella passive aggressive for 2 seconds:D

JSUSoutherner
September 24th, 2018, 01:38 PM
Not sure what Chattanooga has to do at this point to please some of you.

Preferred Walk-On
September 24th, 2018, 01:46 PM
sidenote, with you quoting him and opening with "hello preferred walk on" I read that as hella passive aggressive for 2 seconds:D

Man I suck at quoting. xoopsxWas referring to Professors' takeaways earlier in thread, which I largely agree with. Sorry Professor.

Plus, I'm a native North Dakotan...we have perfected passive aggressive! xsmiley_wix

POD Knows
September 24th, 2018, 01:46 PM
if you had em that close might as well go with the winnerYea, fuuuuuuuuck. I am looking at the spreadsheet for each weekend poll I do and I had Villanova at 16 and Towson at 15 and I had Towson ahead of Nova in last weeks polls as well. JFC, I was just talking smack about filling polls out right and then I transposed these guys, damn it.

grizband
September 24th, 2018, 01:59 PM
Don't forget the Massey submission, Ursus!

Sammy94
September 24th, 2018, 02:08 PM
Those that have Nicholls above McNeese must have missed the game last week. Yes, 25 is a homer vote.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Maine Black Bears
9: Wofford Terriers
10: McNeese State Cowboys
11: Elon Phoenix
12: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: UC Davis Aggies
15: Central Arkansas Bears
16: Stony Brook Seawolves
17: Nicholls State Colonels
18: North Carolina A&T Aggies
19: Montana Grizzlies
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: Western Illinois Leathernecks
22: Towson Tigers
23: Rhode Island Rams
24: Colgate Raiders
25: Sam Houston State Bearkats

Sammy94

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Southland Conference

F'N Hawks
September 24th, 2018, 02:10 PM
Those that have Nicholls above McNeese must have missed the game last week. Yes, 25 is a homer vote.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Maine Black Bears
9: Wofford Terriers
10: McNeese State Cowboys
11: Elon Phoenix
12: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: UC Davis Aggies
15: Central Arkansas Bears
16: Stony Brook Seawolves
17: Nicholls State Colonels
18: North Carolina A&T Aggies
19: Montana Grizzlies
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: Western Illinois Leathernecks
22: Towson Tigers
23: Rhode Island Rams
24: Colgate Raiders
25: Sam Houston State Bearkats



Good lord.

Professor Chaos
September 24th, 2018, 02:12 PM
20: Montana State Bobcats - Using early season head-to-head as the major criteria (similar to that which was suggested last week and was suggested for Villanova/Towson above)...then MSU beat WIU beat UM beat UNI; all by 4 pts or less and ranked in that order).
21: Western Illinois Leathernecks
22: Montana Grizzlies
23: Northern Iowa Panthers

I like it! xthumbsupx

Now when UNI beats WIU and Montana beats Montana St we can really have some fun. :D

caribbeanhen
September 24th, 2018, 02:16 PM
Yea, fuuuuuuuuck. I am looking at the spreadsheet for each weekend poll I do and I had Villanova at 16 and Towson at 15 and I had Towson ahead of Nova in last weeks polls as well. JFC, I was just talking smack about filling polls out right and then I transposed these guys, damn it.

:D

I have at least one bad omission here, I wasnt even going to post this thing until I saw yours

Hello caribbeanhen,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/23/2018 11:38:27

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Weber State Wildcats
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Wofford Terriers
8: Kennesaw State Owls
9: Elon Phoenix
10: UC Davis Aggies
11: Towson Tigers
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
14: Maine Black Bears
15: McNeese State Cowboys
16: North Carolina A&T Aggies
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Rhode Island Rams
19: Montana Grizzlies
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: Chattanooga Mocs
22: South Dakota Coyotes
23: Central Arkansas Bears
24: Stony Brook Seawolves
25: Colgate Raiders

caribbeanhen

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Colonial Athletic Association

POD Knows
September 24th, 2018, 02:23 PM
Those that have Nicholls above McNeese must have missed the game last week. Yes, 25 is a homer vote.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Maine Black Bears
9: Wofford Terriers
10: McNeese State Cowboys
11: Elon Phoenix
12: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: UC Davis Aggies
15: Central Arkansas Bears
16: Stony Brook Seawolves
17: Nicholls State Colonels
18: North Carolina A&T Aggies
19: Montana Grizzlies
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: Western Illinois Leathernecks
22: Towson Tigers
23: Rhode Island Rams
24: Colgate Raiders
25: Sam Houston State Bearkats

Sammy94

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Southland Conference

Yea, I get the McNeese/Nicholls thing but McNeese barely beat a ****ty Northern Colorado and beat some bottom feeder by the name of HBU but they did beat Nicholls at home. Nicholls has a FBS win over an FBS team, yea, I know it is Kansas but they seem to be a little better this year, for now and they beat YOUR top 25 SHSU pretty convincingly. I am not sure that McNeese deserves a rating higher than Nicholls but I will concede that I probably should have had them a little closer in my poll.

TheKingpin28
September 24th, 2018, 02:48 PM
Not sure what Chattanooga has to do at this point to please some of you.If you need accuracy, look at the 2nd post in this thread. xcoffeex xlolx

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Mocs123
September 24th, 2018, 02:54 PM
Not sure what Chattanooga has to do at this point to please some of you.

I think we are right where we should be at this point. If we win the next two weeks, beating ETSU and Wofford, then we deserve to move up in the polls considerably - maybe #10-12ish. We just need to take it one game at a time and stay focused on improving every week. The SoCon has no guaranteed wins (except perhaps VMI and even they have shown life as of late).

JSUSoutherner
September 24th, 2018, 03:02 PM
If you need accuracy, look at the 2nd post in this thread. xcoffeex xlolx

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I have them in the same ballpark you do.

TheKingpin28
September 24th, 2018, 03:03 PM
I have them in the same ballpark you do.I just don't see how they are not near the T15

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nevadagriz
September 24th, 2018, 03:39 PM
Hello PantherRob82,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/23/2018 19:35:29

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Illinois State Redbirds
6: UC Davis Aggies
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Towson Tigers
9: Maine Black Bears
10: Rhode Island Rams
11: Wofford Terriers
12: Montana State Bobcats
13: Western Illinois Leathernecks
14: Villanova Wildcats
15: Montana Grizzlies
16: Nicholls State Colonels
17: Kennesaw State Owls
18: McNeese State Cowboys
19: Stony Brook Seawolves
20: Weber State Wildcats
21: Central Arkansas Bears
22: Harvard Crimson
23: Princeton Tigers
24: Colgate Raiders
25: North Carolina A&T Aggies

PantherRob82

The Most Significant Win: Nicholls State Colonels
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

You really think MSU is better then UofM???

Twentysix
September 24th, 2018, 03:41 PM
You really think MSU is better then UofM???

They do have a common opponent. Thinking UofM is better than MSU should be more of a head scratcher at this point.

WIU@MSU 26-23 MSU W

UofM@WIU 31-27 WIU W

Thus MSU > UofM for now. Especially as the majority of teams have only played 3 or 4 games.

semobison
September 24th, 2018, 04:13 PM
Hello Semobison,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/23/2018 18:04:23

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Illinois State Redbirds
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Maine Black Bears
9: Weber State Wildcats
10: Elon Phoenix
11: UC Davis Aggies
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
14: Rhode Island Rams
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: Montana Grizzlies
17: Stony Brook Seawolves
18: Chattanooga Mocs
19: McNeese State Cowboys
20: Nicholls State Colonels
21: North Carolina A&T Aggies
22: Sac State Hornets
23: Western Illinois Leathernecks
24: Montana State Bobcats
25: Northern Iowa Panthers

Semobison

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

I have 24 out of 25 that are in the AGS poll. Need to take look at Towson. The Ivy league teams get their opportunity with games against the CAA this week.

mvemjsunpx
September 24th, 2018, 04:21 PM
(last week in parentheses)


1. North Dakota St. (1)
2. South Dakota St. (2)
3. James Madison (3)
4. Eastern Washington (4)
5. Kennesaw St. (5)
6. Elon (6)
7. Weber St. (9)
8. McNeese St. (11)
9. Maine (7)
10. Villanova (12)
11. Nicholls St. (13)
12. North Carolina A&T (8)
13. UC Davis (20)
14. Jacksonville St. (14)
15. Rhode Island (15)
16. Stony Brook (19)
17. Illinois St. (NR)
18. Wofford (18)
19. Tennessee-Chattanooga (NR)
20. Central Arkansas (23)
21. Towson (24)
22. Western Illinois (NR)
23. Montana (NR)
24. Sacramento St. (10)
25. Colgate (NR)

W - Illinois St.
L - Austin Peay



Dropped - Delaware (16), Austin Peay (17), Samford (21), North Dakota (22), Sam Houston St. (25)

nevadagriz
September 24th, 2018, 04:49 PM
They do have a common opponent. Thinking UofM is better than MSU should be more of a head scratcher at this point.

WIU@MSU 26-23 MSU W

UofM@WIU 31-27 WIU W

Thus MSU > UofM for now. Especially as the majority of teams have only played 3 or 4 games.

ok
Msu at home
Griz on the road

I really was just curious for his reasoning.

cx500d
September 24th, 2018, 04:53 PM
You really think MSU is better then UofM???

MSU > Western Illinois > Montana. Its settled science based on common opponents.

McCowboys
September 24th, 2018, 04:58 PM
Yea, I get the McNeese/Nicholls thing but McNeese barely beat a ****ty Northern Colorado and beat some bottom feeder by the name of HBU but they did beat Nicholls at home. Nicholls has a FBS win over an FBS team, yea, I know it is Kansas but they seem to be a little better this year, for now and they beat YOUR top 25 SHSU pretty convincingly. I am not sure that McNeese deserves a rating higher than Nicholls but I will concede that I probably should have had them a little closer in my poll.

POD, the McNeese coach does not like to run up the score on people and at times just wants to play too conservatively. I disagree wholeheartedly, and it has almost cost us a couple of games in his 3-year tenure as head coach, and probably cost us one.

At UND, who is not as bad as people think, our coach was quoted as saying that he basically turned it over to the defense in the second half with a 17-0 lead. The offense went very basic, very vanilla, and it almost cost the Cowboys a victory.

Against HBU, McNeese had a 21-0 lead after the first quarter. In the second quarter, he started playing second and third string and redshirt players.

The score of the McNeese-Nicholls game was 20-3 until the final six seconds of the game. Nicholls drove for a TD WITH THEIR STARTERS STILL IN THE GAME. That TD made the score a little more respectable.

Yes, the Cowboys lost 30-3 at BYU. Look at the game stats. Big ol' BYU didn't just trounce the smaller McNeese team. Stupid penalties and turnovers did us in. To BYU's credit, they took advantage of every bad thing McNeese did.

I do not think McNeese is Top 10. Probably in the 11-15 range, I hope. Those who dropped the Cowboys many spots this week did not look at the box score (BYU had only 291 total yards of offense) or are hypocrites because most on here say losing to an FBS team shouldn't really cost an FCS school. BYU was #25. This week they are #20 in one poll, so beating McNeese didn't hurt their ranking any.

POD, your poll was awesome last week because you said so. IMO you took a step back this week.

Grizalltheway
September 24th, 2018, 05:04 PM
MSU > Western Illinois > Montana. Its settled science based on common opponents.
A loss is a loss, but UM dominated all but about ten minutes of that game. Can't really say the same for MSU, and they were at home.

Preferred Walk-On
September 24th, 2018, 05:17 PM
I like it! xthumbsupx

Now when UNI beats WIU and Montana beats Montana St we can really have some fun. :D

I was thinking that...just didn't write it. xninjax

cx500d
September 24th, 2018, 05:43 PM
POD, the McNeese coach does not like to run up the score on people and at times just wants to play too conservatively. I disagree wholeheartedly, and it has almost cost us a couple of games in his 3-year tenure as head coach, and probably cost us one.




Well, you were successful with this one last week.

McCowboys
September 24th, 2018, 05:51 PM
Well, you were successful with this one last week.

Yeah, and too many mistakes to keep the score respectable.

Too bad we didn't play Mississippi Valley State or the University of Arkansas Pine Bluff. xcoffeex

POD Knows
September 24th, 2018, 05:57 PM
POD, the McNeese coach does not like to run up the score on people and at times just wants to play too conservatively. I disagree wholeheartedly, and it has almost cost us a couple of games in his 3-year tenure as head coach, and probably cost us one.

At UND, who is not as bad as people think, our coach was quoted as saying that he basically turned it over to the defense in the second half with a 17-0 lead. The offense went very basic, very vanilla, and it almost cost the Cowboys a victory.

Against HBU, McNeese had a 21-0 lead after the first quarter. In the second quarter, he started playing second and third string and redshirt players.

The score of the McNeese-Nicholls game was 20-3 until the final six seconds of the game. Nicholls drove for a TD WITH THEIR STARTERS STILL IN THE GAME. That TD made the score a little more respectable.

Yes, the Cowboys lost 30-3 at BYU. Look at the game stats. Big ol' BYU didn't just trounce the smaller McNeese team. Stupid penalties and turnovers did us in. To BYU's credit, they took advantage of every bad thing McNeese did.

I do not think McNeese is Top 10. Probably in the 11-15 range, I hope. Those who dropped the Cowboys many spots this week did not look at the box score (BYU had only 291 total yards of offense) or are hypocrites because most on here say losing to an FBS team shouldn't really cost an FCS school. BYU was #25. This week they are #20 in one poll, so beating McNeese didn't hurt their ranking any.

POD, your poll was awesome last week because you said so. IMO you took a step back this week.You notice how I didn't have that "boast" on it this week. Northern Colorado sucks but we will see how they do against the other North Dakota school, if they lose to UND, I might drop you even further, just kidding. I probably should have had you and Nicholls closer in the poll but head to head isn't always the end all be all but it does matter. Yea, I will probably concede I could have done better on this pick but I so blinded by the awesomeness of the Nicholls shellacking of SHSU that I lost my mind. There were a bunch of other guys that had Nicholls ahead of McNeese, I would be curious as to their thoughts. You have a couple cream puffs in a row, tell your coach to run the score up a little.xlolx

LehighU11
September 24th, 2018, 05:57 PM
1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Weber State Wildcats
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Kennesaw State Owls
8: Elon Phoenix
9: Wofford Terriers
10: Chattanooga Mocs
11: Villanova Wildcats
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
14: Stony Brook Seawolves
15: UC Davis Aggies
16: Maine Black Bears
17: McNeese State Cowboys
18: Rhode Island Rams
19: Montana Grizzlies
20: Nicholls State Colonels
21: Princeton Tigers
22: Montana State Bobcats
23: North Carolina A&T Aggies
24: Northern Iowa Panthers
25: Towson Tigers


The Most Significant Win: Chattanooga Mocs
The Most Significant Loss: Sam Houston State Bearkats

McCowboys
September 24th, 2018, 06:02 PM
You notice how I didn't have that "boast" on it this week. Northern Colorado sucks but we will see how they do against the other North Dakota school, if they lose to UND, I might drop you even further, just kidding. I probably should have had you and Nicholls closer in the poll but head to head isn't always the end all be all but it does matter. Yea, I will probably concede I could have done better on this pick but I so blinded by the awesomeness of the Nicholls shellacking of SHSU that I lost my mind. There were a bunch of other guys that had Nicholls ahead of McNeese, I would be curious as to their thoughts. You have a couple cream puffs in a row, tell your coach to run the score up a little.xlolx

SFA just awoke last week and beat someone. It would be nice if McNeese had a breather for a change, but I think our coach must love those nail-biting heartstoppers.

McCowboys
September 24th, 2018, 06:04 PM
You notice how I didn't have that "boast" on it this week. Northern Colorado sucks but we will see how they do against the other North Dakota school, if they lose to UND, I might drop you even further, just kidding. I probably should have had you and Nicholls closer in the poll but head to head isn't always the end all be all but it does matter. Yea, I will probably concede I could have done better on this pick but I so blinded by the awesomeness of the Nicholls shellacking of SHSU that I lost my mind. There were a bunch of other guys that had Nicholls ahead of McNeese, I would be curious as to their thoughts. You have a couple cream puffs in a row, tell your coach to run the score up a little.xlolx

Apparently you were impressed with Nicholls victory over Sam Houston State after Sam's overwhelming loss at home the week before to UND.

Kemo
September 24th, 2018, 06:05 PM
Hello Kemo,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/23/2018 0:36:51

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Illinois State Redbirds
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Maine Black Bears
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: UC Davis Aggies
9: Kennesaw State Owls
10: McNeese State Cowboys
11: Villanova Wildcats
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Wofford Terriers
14: Elon Phoenix
15: Nicholls State Colonels
16: Montana State Bobcats
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Montana Grizzlies
19: Stony Brook Seawolves
20: North Carolina A&T Aggies
21: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
22: Rhode Island Rams
23: Central Arkansas Bears
24: Towson Tigers
25: Missouri State Bears

Kemo

The Most Significant Win: Chattanooga Mocs
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

cx500d
September 24th, 2018, 06:08 PM
Yeah, and too many mistakes to keep the score respectable.

Too bad we didn't play Mississippi Valley State or the University of Arkansas Pine Bluff. xcoffeex

Well, as long as you keep performing like last week, you'll keep getting the calls

POD Knows
September 24th, 2018, 06:08 PM
SFA just awoke last week and beat someone. It would be nice if McNeese had a breather for a change, but I think our coach must love those nail-biting heartstoppers.Yea, SFA lost to IW and beat ACU by 3, they are a cupcake.

cx500d
September 24th, 2018, 06:09 PM
Hello Kemo,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/23/2018 0:36:51

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Illinois State Redbirds
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Maine Black Bears
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: UC Davis Aggies
9: Kennesaw State Owls
10: McNeese State Cowboys
11: Villanova Wildcats
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Wofford Terriers
14: Elon Phoenix
15: Nicholls State Colonels
16: Montana State Bobcats
17: Western Illinois Leathernecks
18: Montana Grizzlies
19: Stony Brook Seawolves
20: North Carolina A&T Aggies
21: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
22: Rhode Island Rams
23: Central Arkansas Bears
24: Towson Tigers
25: Missouri State Bears

Kemo

The Most Significant Win: Chattanooga Mocs
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference


25?

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McCowboys
September 24th, 2018, 06:11 PM
Well, as long as you keep performing like last week, you'll keep getting the calls

You are correct. Lots of mistakes to clean up. Thank you for your support!

Kemo
September 24th, 2018, 06:11 PM
25?

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McCowboys
September 24th, 2018, 06:12 PM
Yea, SFA lost to IW and beat ACU by 3, they are a cupcake.

Jekyll and Hyde. Their starting QB was injured early in the UIW game. I think they might have gotten back some of their injured players for the ACU game.

POD Knows
September 24th, 2018, 06:13 PM
Apparently you were impressed with Nicholls victory over Sam Houston State after Sam's overwhelming loss at home the week before to UND.Please post your poll, I need to look at it. BTW, I was being sarcastic in my comment on the Nicholls/SHSU game.

PantherRob82
September 24th, 2018, 06:30 PM
You really think MSU is better then UofM???

The real question is, will either of them be good.

Schism55
September 24th, 2018, 06:50 PM
Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Maine Black Bears
9: Wofford Terriers
10: Elon Phoenix
11: McNeese State Cowboys
12: UC Davis Aggies
13: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
14: Villanova Wildcats
15: Central Arkansas Bears
16: Rhode Island Rams
17: Nicholls State Colonels
18: Stony Brook Seawolves
19: Montana Grizzlies
20: Chattanooga Mocs
21: North Carolina A&T Aggies
22: Western Illinois Leathernecks
23: Samford Bulldogs
24: Northern Iowa Panthers
25: Towson Tigers

Schism55

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies

Go Lehigh TU owl
September 24th, 2018, 07:00 PM
1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Maine Black Bears
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: Stony Brook Seawolves
11: Villanova Wildcats
12: McNeese State Cowboys
13: North Carolina A&T Aggies
14: Nicholls State Colonels
15: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
16: UC Davis Aggies
17: Wofford Terriers
18: Princeton Tigers
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Rhode Island Rams
21: Chattanooga Mocs
22: Montana Grizzlies
23: Central Arkansas Bears
24: Montana State Bobcats
25: Towson Tigers

Go Lehigh TU owl

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Patriot League

caribbeanhen
September 24th, 2018, 07:20 PM
1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Kennesaw State Owls
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
6: Weber State Wildcats
7: Elon Phoenix
8: Maine Black Bears
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: Stony Brook Seawolves
11: Villanova Wildcats
12: McNeese State Cowboys
13: North Carolina A&T Aggies
14: Nicholls State Colonels
15: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
16: UC Davis Aggies
17: Wofford Terriers
18: Princeton Tigers
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Rhode Island Rams
21: Chattanooga Mocs
22: Montana Grizzlies
23: Central Arkansas Bears
24: Montana State Bobcats
25: Towson Tigers

Go Lehigh TU owl

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Patriot League


Vegas would have S Dakota State favored by 24 vs Kennesaw......

KPSUL
September 24th, 2018, 07:33 PM
Who is still voting for Austin Peay?

This guy?

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28991&stc=1

Go Lehigh TU owl
September 24th, 2018, 07:42 PM
Vegas would have S Dakota State favored by 24 vs Kennesaw......

Same Vegas that had Minnesota over Buffalo by 17.5 or Maryland over Temple by 17?

Kennesaw imo is an extremely unique team. I'm onboard.

F'N Hawks
September 24th, 2018, 08:51 PM
Vegas would have S Dakota State favored by 24 vs Kennesaw......

That would be must see TV. Watching the Jack's try to stop the option is truly fascinating.

caribbeanhen
September 24th, 2018, 09:09 PM
That would be must see TV. Watching the Jack's try to stop the option is truly fascinating.

Soft Houston beat them after AGS predicted greatness all week, I like watching triple Option and the QB is just good, but that weak conference is going to do them in in the end

besides, Georgia State wasnt impressed

IBleedYellow
September 24th, 2018, 10:03 PM
That would be must see TV. Watching the Jack's try to stop the option is truly fascinating.They really don't know how to stop it at all.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

cx500d
September 24th, 2018, 10:06 PM
That would be must see TV. Watching the Jack's try to stop the option is truly fascinating.

Me too; very entertaining watching them lose to cal poly the last time they faced it.

katss07
September 24th, 2018, 10:29 PM
Chatty winning the Natty. Book it.

Kemo
September 24th, 2018, 10:46 PM
That would be must see TV. Watching the Jack's try to stop the option is truly fascinating.
Over the last decade, I've seen the Jacks D play well against the triple option once. It's mind-boggling how bad we are against it regardless of how good our defense is.

Even when we do win against it, it's usually because we had to outscore it rather than slow it down/stop it.

cx500d
September 24th, 2018, 11:00 PM
Chatty winning the Natty. Book it.
Is this katstownmocs?

McCowboys
September 25th, 2018, 08:00 AM
By special request (Honestly!) and exclusive to AGS, here is my poll:

Hello McCowboys,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Maine Black Bears
10: North Carolina A&T Aggies
11: Elon Phoenix
12: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
13: Central Arkansas Bears
14: McNeese State Cowboys
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: UC Davis Aggies
17: Stony Brook Seawolves
18: Colgate Raiders
19: Chattanooga Mocs
20: Montana Grizzlies
21: Samford Bulldogs
22: Northern Iowa Panthers
23: Nicholls State Colonels
24: Western Illinois Leathernecks
25: Montana State Bobcats

McCowboys

The Most Significant Win: Nicholls State Colonels
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Southland Conference

NOTE: I think I may have rated Nicholls too low, but then I think not. I am keeping an eye on Rhode Island and Towson who are both just out of my Top 25.

dbackjon
September 25th, 2018, 08:13 AM
MSU > Western Illinois > Montana. Its settled science based on common opponents.
This early on the season it is as logical as other methods :)

ST_Lawson
September 25th, 2018, 08:39 AM
This early on the season it is as logical as other methods :)

Yeah, I mean we're all about even obviously (WIU, MSU, UM)...close games with the home team winning by a few in head-to-head matchups. I don't have a problem with people ordering the three teams pretty much however they want to, although I'd think that we should all be within a few spots of each other.

POD Knows
September 25th, 2018, 09:07 AM
By special request (Honestly!) and exclusive to AGS, here is my poll:

Hello McCowboys,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Maine Black Bears
10: North Carolina A&T Aggies
11: Elon Phoenix
12: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
13: Central Arkansas Bears
14: McNeese State Cowboys
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: UC Davis Aggies
17: Stony Brook Seawolves
18: Colgate Raiders
19: Chattanooga Mocs
20: Montana Grizzlies
21: Samford Bulldogs
22: Northern Iowa Panthers
23: Nicholls State Colonels
24: Western Illinois Leathernecks
25: Montana State Bobcats

McCowboys

The Most Significant Win: Nicholls State Colonels
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Southland Conference

NOTE: I think I may have rated Nicholls too low, but then I think not. I am keeping an eye on Rhode Island and Towson who are both just out of my Top 25.Towson beat Villanova, shouldn't they be rated about Villanova???? Samford, really. Damn it feels good to pick somebodies poll apart.xlolx

McCowboys
September 25th, 2018, 09:25 AM
Towson beat Villanova, shouldn't they be rated about Villanova???? Samford, really. Damn it feels good to pick somebodies poll apart.xlolx

Yawn. It is just your opinion against mine. McNeese (for now) still deserves to be ranked above Nicholls, and most polls do reflect that. But thanks for the constructive criticism. xcoffeex

I really wanted to put NDSU in all 25 spots, but I knew my poll wouldn't count if I did that.

Maybe your next week's poll will be awesome like your poll before this one. I am counting on you!

POD Knows
September 25th, 2018, 09:51 AM
Yawn. It is just your opinion against mine. McNeese (for now) still deserves to be ranked above Nicholls, and most polls do reflect that. But thanks for the constructive criticism. xcoffeex

I really wanted to put NDSU in all 25 spots, but I knew my poll wouldn't count if I did that.

Maybe your next week's poll will be awesome like your poll before this one. I am counting on you!Double yawn, it is your opinion, I just felt the need to toss your opinion back at you because you didn't used the same methodology for Towson/Villanova that you thought I should use for McNeese/Nicholls. Given the body of work to date, Villanova should probably be ahead of Towson but it is close, same thing with McNeese/Nicholls.

TheRevSFA
September 25th, 2018, 09:52 AM
Yea, SFA lost to IW and beat ACU by 3, they are a cupcake.

Hey, don't drag us into this.

POD Knows
September 25th, 2018, 09:54 AM
Hey, don't drag us into this.Couldn't be helped, I needed to buttress my argument somehow. :D

Prime Power
September 25th, 2018, 11:55 AM
Hello Prime Power,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2018 9:12:53

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Maine Black Bears
9: Elon Phoenix
10: Weber State Wildcats
11: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: McNeese State Cowboys
15: UC Davis Aggies
16: Nicholls State Colonels
17: Stony Brook Seawolves
18: Montana Grizzlies
19: North Carolina A&T Aggies
20: Northern Iowa Panthers
21: Rhode Island Rams
22: Chattanooga Mocs
23: Towson Tigers
24: Colgate Raiders
25: Princeton Tigers

Prime Power

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

McCowboys
September 25th, 2018, 11:59 AM
Double yawn, it is your opinion, I just felt the need to toss your opinion back at you because you didn't used the same methodology for Towson/Villanova that you thought I should use for McNeese/Nicholls. Given the body of work to date, Villanova should probably be ahead of Towson but it is close, same thing with McNeese/Nicholls.

And I, respectfully, disagree.

McCowboys
September 25th, 2018, 12:01 PM
Hey, don't drag us into this.

You tell him, Rev!

JSUSoutherner
September 25th, 2018, 01:07 PM
Got my email this morning. Here's what I had.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Illinois State Redbirds
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Maine Black Bears
9: Wofford Terriers
10: McNeese State Cowboys
11: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Nicholls State Colonels
14: UC Davis Aggies
15: Central Arkansas Bears
16: Stony Brook Seawolves
17: Rhode Island Rams
18: Villanova Wildcats
19: Colgate Raiders
20: Western Illinois Leathernecks
21: Montana Grizzlies
22: Northern Iowa Panthers
23: North Carolina A&T Aggies
24: South Dakota Coyotes
25: The Citadel Bulldogs

JSUSoutherner

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: Sam Houston State Bearkats
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Ohio Valley Conference

Mocs123
September 25th, 2018, 03:15 PM
Chatty winning the Natty. Book it.

I doubt it this year!!!!!! I'm just hoping to get in the playoffs and have a chance to win a game or two.

Of course I would love for you to be right.

POD Knows
September 25th, 2018, 03:38 PM
And I, respectfully, disagree.With all due respect, I respectively disagree

SCPALADIN
September 25th, 2018, 04:27 PM
My hot mess...

Hello SCPALADIN,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2018 6:28:03

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Kennesaw State Owls
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Maine Black Bears
10: Elon Phoenix
11: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
12: McNeese State Cowboys
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Central Arkansas Bears
15: UC Davis Aggies
16: Stony Brook Seawolves
17: Rhode Island Rams
18: Nicholls State Colonels
19: North Carolina A&T Aggies
20: Montana Grizzlies
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: Sam Houston State Bearkats
23: Chattanooga Mocs
24: Western Illinois Leathernecks
25: Samford Bulldogs

SCPALADIN

The Most Significant Win: Chattanooga Mocs
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Southern Conference

hoidOfYolen
September 25th, 2018, 05:57 PM
Got my email this morning. Here's what I had.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Kennesaw State Owls
5: Illinois State Redbirds
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Maine Black Bears
9: Wofford Terriers
10: McNeese State Cowboys
11: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Nicholls State Colonels
14: UC Davis Aggies
15: Central Arkansas Bears
16: Stony Brook Seawolves
17: Rhode Island Rams
18: Villanova Wildcats
19: Colgate Raiders
20: Western Illinois Leathernecks
21: Montana Grizzlies
22: Northern Iowa Panthers
23: North Carolina A&T Aggies
24: South Dakota Coyotes
25: The Citadel Bulldogs

JSUSoutherner

The Most Significant Win: Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss: Sam Houston State Bearkats
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Ohio Valley Conference

Lol @ no Elon

katss07
September 25th, 2018, 06:10 PM
Lol @ no Elon
My thoughts exactly. Maybe he missed them. Or just thinks they are somehow worse than The Citadel?

JSUSoutherner
September 25th, 2018, 06:31 PM
Lol @ no Elon
Completely missed them. My bad.

hoidOfYolen
September 25th, 2018, 06:47 PM
Completely missed them. My bad.

This is why I have a spreadsheet on Google sheets that tells me in one column whether a cell has a value that exists in the next column. What that does is cross off a team if I have them listed in the top 25. So if a team isn't yet crossed off I either need to find a spot for them or drop them from my top 25.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O_SCFCBR5zGaDsR0fRPCC0cHxuaDBsXkVpBcNvW-rY4/edit?usp=sharing

JSUSoutherner
September 25th, 2018, 06:50 PM
This is why I have a spreadsheet on Google sheets that tells me in one column whether a cell has a value that exists in the next column. What that does is cross off a team if I have them listed in the top 25. So if a team isn't yet crossed off I either need to find a spot for them or drop them from my top 25.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O_SCFCBR5zGaDsR0fRPCC0cHxuaDBsXkVpBcNvW-rY4/edit?usp=sharing
Yeah I always check my vote against a spread sheet. No idea how I botched it.

Based on the point gaps it wouldn't have moved you guys up anyway.

Preferred Walk-On
September 25th, 2018, 08:03 PM
This is why I have a spreadsheet on Google sheets that tells me in one column whether a cell has a value that exists in the next column. What that does is cross off a team if I have them listed in the top 25. So if a team isn't yet crossed off I either need to find a spot for them or drop them from my top 25.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O_SCFCBR5zGaDsR0fRPCC0cHxuaDBsXkVpBcNvW-rY4/edit?usp=sharing

Other than disagreeing with a few of your rankings xeyebrowx, love this sheet and will be stealing formula for my own sheet. Thanks a bunch for sharing. xsalutex

semobison
September 25th, 2018, 08:10 PM
My hot mess...

Hello SCPALADIN,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2018 6:28:03

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Kennesaw State Owls
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Weber State Wildcats
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Maine Black Bears
10: Elon Phoenix
11: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
12: McNeese State Cowboys
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Central Arkansas Bears
15: UC Davis Aggies
16: Stony Brook Seawolves
17: Rhode Island Rams
18: Nicholls State Colonels
19: North Carolina A&T Aggies
20: Montana Grizzlies
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: Sam Houston State Bearkats
23: Chattanooga Mocs
24: Western Illinois Leathernecks
25: Samford Bulldogs

SCPALADIN

The Most Significant Win: Chattanooga Mocs
The Most Significant Loss: North Carolina A&T Aggies
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Southern Conference


Not bad except for Sammy at 22. They have done nothing to deserve a ranking so far this season!

MTfan4life
September 26th, 2018, 05:57 AM
Can we just all appreciate Western Carolina moving up in the ORV section of the poll from #40 to #31 after beating VMI by 2 points at home. WCU, with a 7 point win over a terrible D2 team, and a 2 point win over annually one of the worst scholarship conference teams in the FCS managed to catch some attention for some reason. I guess we'll find out more about them as the season carries on. Upwards of 80-90% of the FCS would be 3-0 with their schedule so far, and probably have better wins.

POD Knows
September 26th, 2018, 07:59 AM
Can we just all appreciate Western Carolina moving up in the ORV section of the poll from #40 to #31 after beating VMI by 2 points at home. WCU, with a 7 point win over a terrible D2 team, and a 2 point win over annually one of the worst scholarship conference teams in the FCS managed to catch some attention for some reason. I guess we'll find out more about them as the season carries on. Upwards of 80-90% of the FCS would be 3-0 with their schedule so far, and probably have better wins.Yea, these guys aren't even on my radar yet. don't understand the votes for them.

caribbeanhen
September 26th, 2018, 09:37 AM
Towson beat Villanova, shouldn't they be rated about Villanova???? Samford, really. Damn it feels good to pick somebodies poll apart.xlolx

brass balls !

POD Knows
September 26th, 2018, 10:25 AM
brass balls !LOL, you have to read the entire exchange. I got called out for putting Nicholls ahead of McNeese because McNeese beat Nicholls and then the guy that called me out put Villanova in the poll and left Towson out of his poll entirely.

dbackjon
September 26th, 2018, 11:16 AM
Here's my trying to do a vote while with family on my phone...

Hello dbackjon,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2018 8:03:23

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Should be South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Illinois State Redbirds
6: Maine Black Bears
7: Should be Kennesaw State
8: Weber State Wildcats
9: Central Arkansas Bears
10: UC Davis Aggies
11: McNeese State Cowboys
12: North Carolina A&T Aggies
13: Wofford Terriers
14: Colgate Raiders
15: Western Carolina Catamounts
16: Western Illinois Leathernecks
17: Elon Phoenix
18: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
19: Stony Brook Seawolves
20: Rhode Island Rams
21: Stony Brook Seawolves
22: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
23: Montana Grizzlies
24: Chattanooga Mocs
25: Nicholls State Colonels

dbackjon

The Most Significant Win: Colgate Raiders
The Most Significant Loss: Sam Houston State Bearkats
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Big Sky Conference

dbackjon
September 26th, 2018, 11:18 AM
Yea, these guys aren't even on my radar yet. don't understand the votes for them.


AGS' #1 Catamount fan, Richard McClellan (Catamountman) passed away a year ago Monday. WCU will get ranked from me in Richard's honor as long as they keep winning.

TheKingpin28
September 26th, 2018, 11:35 AM
Here's my trying to do a vote while with family on my phone...

Hello dbackjon,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2018 8:03:23

Your vote is listed below.


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Carolina State Bulldogs
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Illinois State Redbirds
6: Maine Black Bears
7: Wagner Seahawks
8: Weber State Wildcats
9: Central Arkansas Bears
10: UC Davis Aggies
11: McNeese State Cowboys
12: North Carolina A&T Aggies
13: Wofford Terriers
14: Colgate Raiders
15: Western Carolina Catamounts
16: Western Illinois Leathernecks
17: Elon Phoenix
18: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
19: Stony Brook Seawolves
20: Rhode Island Rams
21: Stony Brook Seawolves
22: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
23: Montana Grizzlies
24: Chattanooga Mocs
25: Nicholls State Colonels

dbackjon

The Most Significant Win: Colgate Raiders
The Most Significant Loss: Sam Houston State Bearkats
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Big Sky Conference


These 3 teams are completely inexcusable regardless of any excuse.

dbackjon
September 26th, 2018, 11:37 AM
These 3 teams are completely inexcusable regardless of any excuse.

Ah - those were supposed to have been changed - South Dakota State at #3, Kennesaw State at #7, and nothing wrong in ranking a team with an FBS win in the top 25

TheKingpin28
September 26th, 2018, 11:53 AM
Ah - those were supposed to have been changed - South Dakota State at #3, Kennesaw State at #7, and nothing wrong in ranking a team with an FBS win in the top 25

You lost to Missery State by 32 points and barely squeaked by an awful SUU...

To call UTEP an "FBS win" is pathetic. In all D1 football there are only 57 worse teams than UTEP and UTEP is the WORST FBS TEAM BY A COUNTRY MILE. So you played the: 197, 92, 134, and 209 teams, respectively, in the nation out of 255 total teams for D1 football and you think that deserves a ranking? There is no reason why NAU should be ranked and to rank them is a combination of homerism and lazy voting.

POD Knows
September 26th, 2018, 11:58 AM
AGS' #1 Catamount fan, Richard McClellan (Catamountman) passed away a year ago Monday. WCU will get ranked from me in Richard's honor as long as they keep winning.Holy crap, you have them at 16, I get it and I salute the tribute but WTF. xeyebrowx

dbackjon
September 26th, 2018, 12:06 PM
You lost to Missery State by 32 points and barely squeaked by an awful SUU...

To call UTEP an "FBS win" is pathetic. In all D1 football there are only 57 worse teams than UTEP and UTEP is the WORST FBS TEAM BY A COUNTRY MILE. So you played the: 197, 92, 134, and 209 teams, respectively, in the nation out of 255 total teams for D1 football and you think that deserves a ranking? There is no reason why NAU should be ranked and to rank them is a combination of homerism and lazy voting.

Fortunately I could care less what you think :)

grizband
September 26th, 2018, 12:08 PM
AGS' #1 Catamount fan, Richard McClellan (Catamountman) passed away a year ago Monday. WCU will get ranked from me in Richard's honor as long as they keep winning.
Hard to believe it's already been a year!

TheKingpin28
September 26th, 2018, 12:14 PM
Fortunately I could care less what you think :)You're right and good for you, but all you do is add fuel to the fire for those of us who want this poll to be as accurate as possible.

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McCowboys
September 26th, 2018, 12:36 PM
LOL, you have to read the entire exchange. I got called out for putting Nicholls ahead of McNeese because McNeese beat Nicholls and then the guy that called me out put Villanova in the poll and left Towson out of his poll entirely.

I'm THAT guy. So go ahead and give me a blindfold and put me in front of a firing squad already!

You are bragging about putting Nicholls ahead of McNeese, and you are one of the very few (if any) who have done that.

Apparently, I am not the only one who rates Villanova over Towson, and I did tell you that Towson is just out of my Top 25.

But if you wish to hang your hat on this and boast about it, it must really mean a lot to you. So congratulations.

POD Knows
September 26th, 2018, 12:39 PM
I'm THAT guy. So go ahead and give me a blindfold and put me in front of a firing squad already!

You are bragging about putting Nicholls ahead of McNeese, and you are one of the very few (if any) who have done that.

Apparently, I am not the only one who rates Villanova over Towson, and I did tell you that Towson is just out of my Top 25.

But if you wish to hang your hat on this and boast about it, it must really mean a lot to you. So congratulations.I am not ****ing bragging about anything, relax, YOU are the one that called m out originally, remember?? You blasted me for the head to head deal with Nicholls and McNeese and then you did the exact thing I did when you rated Villanova ahead of Towson.

McCowboys
September 26th, 2018, 12:42 PM
I am not ****ing bragging about anything, relax, YOU are the one that called m out originally, remember?? You blasted me for the head to head deal with Nicholls and McNeese and then you did the exact thing I did when you rated Villanova ahead of Towson.

Blasted you? My, you are so dramatic. I simply questioned one thing in your poll. My sincere apologies if you think I attacked you in any way.

POD Knows
September 26th, 2018, 12:48 PM
Blasted you? My, you are so dramatic. I simply questioned one thing in your poll. My sincere apologies if you think I attacked you in any way.OMG, blasted is an easier word to spell than "questioned" so I used that. I don't think you attacked me, you were just pointing out flaws in my poll, and I stated that head to head is important but it is not the only factor and you must agree with this given your Villanova/Towson placement in your poll. I actually think that Nicholls and McNeese are probably pretty even, we will see.

dbackjon
September 26th, 2018, 01:06 PM
You're right and good for you, but all you do is add fuel to the fire for those of us who want this poll to be as accurate as possible.

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As do I. One of the strengths of the poll is that you have voters from all across the nation, from all conferences and many schools, and differing voting methods. One person's method may not be yours. But you are free to publish the Kingpin poll and proclaim it is the only acceptable one.

TheKingpin28
September 26th, 2018, 01:12 PM
As do I. One of the strengths of the poll is that you have voters from all across the nation, from all conferences and many schools, and differing voting methods. One person's method may not be yours. But you are free to publish the Kingpin poll and proclaim it is the only acceptable one.I do publish it but only POD states his is the accurate/correct one

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POD Knows
September 26th, 2018, 01:14 PM
I do publish it but only POD states his is the accurate/correct one

Sent from my SM-J727V using TapatalkI didn't do that on my last poll but my week 3 poll was the answer key.

TheKingpin28
September 26th, 2018, 01:15 PM
I didn't do that on my last poll but my week 3 poll was the answer key.Then why didn't you let me see it before you posted it. I'm trying to stay above 50% accuracy

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Derby City Duke
September 26th, 2018, 04:03 PM
I'm THAT guy. So go ahead and give me a blindfold and put me in front of a firing squad already!

You are bragging about putting Nicholls ahead of McNeese, and you are one of the very few (if any) who have done that.

Apparently, I am not the only one who rates Villanova over Towson, and I did tell you that Towson is just out of my Top 25.

But if you wish to hang your hat on this and boast about it, it must really mean a lot to you. So congratulations.

I have Nicholls ahead of McNeese and Villanova ahead of Towson (they are sitting at 26 or 27 for me right now).

McCowboys
September 26th, 2018, 05:42 PM
I have Nicholls ahead of McNeese and Villanova ahead of Towson (they are sitting at 26 or 27 for me right now).

Good for you! This is what makes the world go 'round. I can suggest someone for you to celebrate with if you feel the need to do so.

caribbeanhen
September 26th, 2018, 07:49 PM
if there were any Towson fans on AGS they might question the Nova over Towson ...... I mean we have evidence.... haha

cx500d
September 26th, 2018, 08:19 PM
if there were any Towson fans on AGS they might question the Nova over Towson ...... I mean we have evidence.... haha


Towson fans?

Try and spot where the Towson fans were in this picture

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Thumper 76
September 27th, 2018, 08:47 AM
Might as well post my poll, forgot to let people see the awesomeness.

Hello Thumper 76,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/23/2018 8:26:28

Your vote is listed below.*


1:*North Dakota State Bison
2:*James Madison Dukes
3:*South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4:*Maine Black Bears
5:*Eastern Washington Eagles
6:*Illinois State Redbirds
7:*Wofford Terriers
8:*Weber State Wildcats
9:*Rhode Island Rams
10:*UC Davis Aggies
11:*Elon Phoenix
12:*Kennesaw State Owls
13:*Nicholls State Colonels
14:*North Carolina A&T Aggies
15:*McNeese State Cowboys
16:*Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17:*Central Arkansas Bears
18:*Stony Brook Seawolves
19:*Towson Tigers
20:*Chattanooga Mocs
21:*Villanova Wildcats
22:*Western Illinois Leathernecks
23:*Montana Grizzlies
24:*Harvard Crimson
25:*Colgate Raiders

Thumper 76*

The Most Significant Win:*Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss:*Samford Bulldogs
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?:*Missouri Valley Football Conference

Thank you!

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POD Knows
September 27th, 2018, 08:49 AM
Might as well post my poll, forgot to let people see the awesomeness.

Hello Thumper 76,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/23/2018 8:26:28

Your vote is listed below.*


1:*North Dakota State Bison
2:*James Madison Dukes
3:*South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4:*Maine Black Bears
5:*Eastern Washington Eagles
6:*Illinois State Redbirds
7:*Wofford Terriers
8:*Weber State Wildcats
9:*Rhode Island Rams
10:*UC Davis Aggies
11:*Elon Phoenix
12:*Kennesaw State Owls
13:*Nicholls State Colonels
14:*North Carolina A&T Aggies
15:*McNeese State Cowboys
16:*Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17:*Central Arkansas Bears
18:*Stony Brook Seawolves
19:*Towson Tigers
20:*Chattanooga Mocs
21:*Villanova Wildcats
22:*Western Illinois Leathernecks
23:*Montana Grizzlies
24:*Harvard Crimson
25:*Colgate Raiders

Thumper 76*

The Most Significant Win:*Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss:*Samford Bulldogs
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?:*Missouri Valley Football Conference

Thank you!

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Sent from my SM-T580 using TapatalkLove the Nicholls play over McNeese, welcome to the club.

BEAR
September 27th, 2018, 08:54 AM
Might as well post my poll, forgot to let people see the awesomeness.

Hello Thumper 76,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/23/2018 8:26:28

Your vote is listed below.*


1:*North Dakota State Bison
2:*James Madison Dukes
3:*South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4:*Maine Black Bears
5:*Eastern Washington Eagles
6:*Illinois State Redbirds
7:*Wofford Terriers
8:*Weber State Wildcats
9:*Rhode Island Rams
10:*UC Davis Aggies
11:*Elon Phoenix
12:*Kennesaw State Owls
13:*Nicholls State Colonels
14:*North Carolina A&T Aggies
15:*McNeese State Cowboys
16:*Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17:*Central Arkansas Bears
18:*Stony Brook Seawolves
19:*Towson Tigers
20:*Chattanooga Mocs
21:*Villanova Wildcats
22:*Western Illinois Leathernecks
23:*Montana Grizzlies
24:*Harvard Crimson
25:*Colgate Raiders

Thumper 76*

The Most Significant Win:*Illinois State Redbirds
The Most Significant Loss:*Samford Bulldogs
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?:*Missouri Valley Football Conference

Thank you!

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I like that you put McNeese above UCA and Nicholls. They have some pretty good defensive leaders in the conference and what appears to be a balanced offense. UCA has a good defense but the offense is taking the traditional slow time starting. That always bites them later in the season. Nicholls is just struggling against teams that are struggling even worse like Sam. UCA and Nicholls don't play each other but UCA and McNeese do later in the year AT McNeese. But putting McNeese above those two teams is a good choice.

POD Knows
September 27th, 2018, 08:56 AM
I like that you put McNeese above UCA and Nicholls. They have some pretty good defensive leaders in the conference and what appears to be a balanced offense. UCA has a good defense but the offense is taking the traditional slow time starting. That always bites them later in the season. Nicholls is just struggling against teams that are struggling even worse like Sam. UCA and Nicholls don't play each other but UCA and McNeese do later in the year AT McNeese. But putting McNeese above those two teams is a good choice.Yea, except that he didn't

Thumper 76
September 27th, 2018, 09:02 AM
Yea, except that he didn't

I’m kinda confused as well....


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BEAR
September 27th, 2018, 09:34 AM
Yea, except that he didn't

Oops. I've looked at so many of these I lost track! xlolx It's early..gimme a break! xnodx Well my point was they SHOULD be above both for the reasons I've stated.