Gotta a State of the Week for you.

[AmsterBison]

Kennesaw State and NDSU are the only two teams currently in the FCS who have not lost a game by 40 or more in the last 50 years.

Alabama, Michigan, and South Florida are the other DI teams that can say the same.

Other FCS teams with few beat downs:


Query115
TeamId
Cnt


Harvard
1


Monmouth (NJ)
2


Mercer (GA)
2


Central Arkansas
2


Robert Morris
3


Dayton
3


Pennsylvania
4


Princeton
4


Bryant University
5


Richmond
5


North Alabama
5


Villanova
5


Jacksonville State
5


Stetson (FL)
5


New Hampshire
6


Yale
6


UC Davis
6

[Reign of Terrier]

funny how there's a correlation between start up teams and teams that haven't/can't play FBS teams with this obscure statistics. By funny, I mean expected.

[Evolution Prime]

Here I was expecting North Dakota being declared State of the Week by some random computer poll. All I see are some BS statistics.

[AmsterBison]

Here I was expecting North Dakota being declared State of the Week by some random computer poll. All I see are some BS statistics.

Ha, yeah, typo in the title. State of the Week is gas, btw.

When you remove FBS games (which would mean, really, limiting games to 1973 and later), then SDSU has 7 40+ losses instead of 8. Sadly only one was at the hands of NDSU. And Mercer is added to the list of teams never beaten by 40+ when FBS games are excluded. And really James Madison should be zero since their two big non-FBS losses were in their first year.

[ElCid]

Ha, yeah, typo in the title. State of the Week is gas, btw.

When you remove FBS games (which would mean, really, limiting games to 1973 and later), then SDSU has 7 40+ losses instead of 8. Sadly only one was at the hands of NDSU. And Mercer is added to the list of teams never beaten by 40+ when FBS games are excluded. And really James Madison should be zero since their two big non-FBS losses were in their first year.


I think you mean 1978. And it wasn't settled until the 1982 season for all conferences. So it makes digging this stat even harder.

[jmuwishyouhadadukedog]

Ha, yeah, typo in the title. State of the Week is gas, btw.

When you remove FBS games (which would mean, really, limiting games to 1973 and later), then SDSU has 7 40+ losses instead of 8. Sadly only one was at the hands of NDSU. And Mercer is added to the list of teams never beaten by 40+ when FBS games are excluded. And really James Madison should be zero since their two big non-FBS losses were in their first year.


I was gonna say, we've definitely been blown out by FBS competition in the past but I couldn't think of a time we've been curb-stomped by a FCS team. I did a quick perusal, we've only lost to FCS teams by more than 2 scores (i.e. more than 16 points) three times since 2004 (2009: Villanova 27-0, William and Mary 24-3 and in 2011 New Hampshire 28-10).


Another fun fact nobody cares about: between 2004-2008, our average margin of loss in our 12 losses to FCS teams was 4 points (3, 4, 3, 6, 3, 11, 1, 4, 1, 3, 1, 8). Too many people defended Matthews because of his ability to always keep us close to winning, which was a product of his overly conservative play calling. To be honest, in a lot of those years (sans 2004 and 2008) I wish we were getting blown out as the mediocrity that was Mickey Matthews was more infuriating. To watch a game where you were always in it, knowing that conservative play calling would ultimately be your demise was awful.

[AmsterBison]

I think you mean 1978. And it wasn't settled until the 1982 season for all conferences. So it makes digging this stat even harder.

I did 1973 just because that's when DI, DII, and DIII were formed.

Really, I could look at only fcs v fcs games - the only problem with that is that there is some disagreement about when teams really became FCS. I mean, I'm not sure that the NCAA really considered move ups an FCS team until their entire 5-year transition is over (I go with "they are FCS once that first year of the transition is over.)

<play Jeopardy music>

OK, looking at the teams that way, JMU is definitely the champ of not getting beat by 40 because the other teams without a 40+ loss to another FCS team are relative newbies (last column is what I consider the team's first year in the FCS)



TeamId
Lby40
FCSGames
MinOfYear


James Madison
0
382
1980


North Dakota State
0
169
2004


Central Arkansas
0
111
2007


Mercer (GA)
0
48
2013


Abilene Christian
0
43
2013


Kennesaw State
0
30
2015


North Alabama
0
2
2018


Harvard
1
353
1982


Pennsylvania
1
352
1982


Illinois State
1
343
1982


Villanova
1
335
1987


Monmouth (NJ)
1
231
1994


UC Davis
1
133
2003

[grizband]

If you remove FBS schools, Montana has only 5 losses of 40+ points in the past 50 years.

1968 Utah State 50-3
1973 Boise State 55-7
1980 Idaho 42-0
1984 Idaho State 43-3
1998 Western Illinois 53-9 (playoffs)

[ST_Lawson]

1998 Western Illinois 53-9 (playoffs)

We don't have a ton that we can be proud of...but this here...yeah.

[JSUSoutherner]

Where are you guys pulling this info?

I imagine if you pull the FBS games JSU probably looks better. I'm sure we got blew out a few times in the late 90's/Early 2000s still though

[Evolution Prime]

We don't have a ton that we can be proud of...but this here...yeah.

Looks similar to SDSU's only DII playoff appearance, a 51-7 loss to Youngstown State in 1979.

So I guess you could say that losing big in the playoffs is nothing new for SDSU.

[AmsterBison]

If you remove FBS schools, Montana has only 5 losses of 40+ points in the past 50 years.

1968 Utah State 50-3
1973 Boise State 55-7
1980 Idaho 42-0
1984 Idaho State 43-3
1998 Western Illinois 53-9 (playoffs)

And only 3 since you went FCS.

[AmsterBison]

Where are you guys pulling this info?

I imagine if you pull the FBS games JSU probably looks better. I'm sure we got blew out a few times in the late 90's/Early 2000s still though

I've got a database that I use to run the bisonville.com Fan Guide. Occasionally, like today, I get stuck waiting for work things to finish so it is a good time to write queries to make FCS top 10 lists.

Teams that deliver the 40+ point wins (the percentage is 40+ pt wins / total games against FCS teams):


Query109
TeamId
Lby40
Expr1


Grambling State
30
7.6%


Montana
28
6.6%


Eastern Kentucky
28
6.7%


Jackson State
26
6.4%


North Dakota State
22
13.0%


San Diego
22
10.6%


Furman
21
5.6%


Florida A&M
20
5.3%


Duquesne
18
7.2%


South Carolina State
18
4.9%


Dayton
18
7.9%



Georgia Southern had 32 40+ wins but I'm only showing current FCS teams.
14 of Grambling's 40+ pt wins came via Prairie View A&M.
Montana really spread the beat downs around (16 different teams)
San Diego has only beaten fellow Pioneer League teams by 40+ (and they've beat them all, including former member Campbell before they moved to the Big South.)

[grizband]

I've got a database that I use to run the bisonville.com Fan Guide. Occasionally, like today, I get stuck waiting for work things to finish so it is a good time to write queries to make FCS top 10 lists.
Mind sharing the data in your database?

[Thumper 76]

Ha, yeah, typo in the title. State of the Week is gas, btw.

When you remove FBS games (which would mean, really, limiting games to 1973 and later), then SDSU has 7 40+ losses instead of 8. Sadly only one was at the hands of NDSU. And Mercer is added to the list of teams never beaten by 40+ when FBS games are excluded. And really James Madison should be zero since their two big non-FBS losses were in their first year.

Eh, we didn’t used to be what we are today. Just makes it that much sweeter.


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[Daytripper]

Oh, great. Anther NDSU chest bumping thread.

[cx500d]

Here I was expecting North Dakota being declared State of the Week by some random computer poll. All I see are some BS statistics.


Well, I guess its better than South Dakota being the State of the Weak

[cx500d]

Kennesaw State and NDSU are the only two teams currently in the FCS who have not lost a game by 40 or more in the last 50 years.

Alabama, Michigan, and South Florida are the other DI teams that can say the same.

Other FCS teams with few beat downs:



TeamId
Cnt


Harvard
1


Monmouth (NJ)
2


Mercer (GA)
2


Central Arkansas
2


Robert Morris
3


Dayton
3


Pennsylvania
4


Princeton
4


Bryant University
5


Richmond
5


North Alabama
5


Villanova
5


Jacksonville State
5


Stetson (FL)
5


New Hampshire
6


Yale
6


UC Davis
6




I think Robert Morris may increase to 4 after this weekend.

[Schism55]

Came here expecting state of the week to be denial.
Leaving disappointed. xlolx

[AmsterBison]

Mind sharing the data in your database?

Not at all. What form would you like the data to be in?

The data is currently in an Access 2013 database. Occasionally, I'll dump the data to XML and import it into an SQL database but always run out of time in the off season to do what I want (i.e. make an Entity Framework-based app for generating the Bisonville Fan Guide website.)