SDSU's Stiegelmeier arrested for DUI

[Laker]

This just seems so out of character for him. I was shocked to hear this.

https://brookingsregister.com/article/stiegelmeier-arrested-for-dui

[Bisonator]

Pretty dang easy to get a DUI now days. Brother got one last year, cop watched him leave the bar and stopped him for a burnt out license plate light.xrolleyesx He hadn't had any alcohol for an hour but still blew a .08 he wasn't impaired just a way for them to get more money.

[BisonTru]

I heard Taryn got a job at Arby's. Can you hardly blame the guy? Free turnovers after a couple glasses of red... :D:D:D

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Seriously though, probably the last coach I'd expect to get one.

[Laker]

I heard Taryn got a job at Arby's. Can you hardly blame the guy? Free turnovers after a couple glasses of red... :D:D:D

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Seriously though, probably the last coach I'd expect to get one.

I thought so too. This was actually a shock for me. I've always liked him. He always seemed to be about as bland as cream style corn.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

A good guy and agree this does not seem like something he would do for sure.

[kdinva]

Damn. Seems like the Coach would have asked a family member to go out and get a bag of snacks, etc....

[Yote 53]

Read the arrest report. This isn't a case of sipping on too much Merlot and being unaware of being over the limit.

Coach got drunk on Joose. Put his car in the ditch. Was stumbling in front of the cop. BAC was a minimum of .08. The entire story is skewed because there was no PBT taken at the scene and the BAC wasn't in the police report.

Lot's of questions about why not PBT test was given and why the story didn't come out until now since it happened back in January. National Signing Day maybe?

How many adults drink Joose? I mean, seriously. Preferred drink of the trailer park hood rat crowd.

[Bisonator]

Read the arrest report. This isn't a case of sipping on too much Merlot and being unaware of being over the limit.

Coach got drunk on Joose. Put his car in the ditch. Was stumbling in front of the cop. BAC was a minimum of .08. The entire story is skewed because there was no PBT taken at the scene and the BAC wasn't in the police report.

Lot's of questions about why not PBT test was given and why the story didn't come out until now since it happened back in January. National Signing Day maybe?

How many adults drink Joose? I mean, seriously. Preferred drink of the trailer park hood rat crowd.
Yeah the signs for the marker game in Fargo this year are going to be epic!xlolx

The Joose is loose!

Hey Stig lay off the Joose!

[Evolution Prime]

Yeah the signs for the marker game in Fargo this year are going to be epic!xlolx

The Joose is loose!

Hey Stig lay off the Joose!

You guys better be handing one out to every SDSU fan this year in the tailgating lot. Or maybe I will just bring my own.

[TennBison]

He was drunk with power

[TennBison]

Pretty dang easy to get a DUI now days. Brother got one last year, cop watched him leave the bar and stopped him for a burnt out license plate light.xrolleyesx He hadn't had any alcohol for an hour but still blew a .08 he wasn't impaired just a way for them to get more money.
So what you are saying is that your brother was legally drunk and that the traffic stop was legit. Saying that your brother was drunk, but then adding a comment at the end that cops only stop people to make money is a head scratcher. Who cares if a police department makes money for their equipment because they issue a ticket or arrest a person who IS ​breaking the law. Unless you would rather the cop do nothing to your brother and he ended up killing someone, in which case people would be asking why he didn't get pulled over.

[Bisonator]

So what you are saying is that your brother was legally drunk and that the traffic stop was legit. Saying that your brother was drunk, but then adding a comment at the end that cops only stop people to make money is a head scratcher. Who cares if a police department makes money for their equipment because they issue a ticket or arrest a person who IS ​breaking the law. Unless you would rather the cop do nothing to your brother and he ended up killing someone, in which case people would be asking why he didn't get pulled over.
Whatever, yes he was breaking the law just like someone doing 60 in a 55 or jaywalking. Book em Danno.

[CappinHard]

The just released recorded audio from Stig's car right before he put it in the ditch. He was heard singing: "Rollin down 8th Street, gettin taco john's, sippin on gin and Joose... laid back... with my mind on some tacos and some tacos on my mind"

[Evolution Prime]

You don't even need a 0.08 BAC to be charged with DUI. If the officer believes that you appear to be impaired, you can still receive a DUI.

[IBleedYellow]

This doesn't pass the smell test. At all.


Way more to this in my opinion that what is being publicly stated.

"Didn't eat and had a glass of wine."

Cop statement says he actually drank Joose.

Rumors that Stig never drank, so he starts with the drink that you take to get absolutely hammered?

Things aren't adding up.

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[TheKingpin28]

Yeah the signs for the marker game in Fargo this year are going to be epic!xlolx

The Joose is loose!

Hey Stig lay off the Joose!Is OJ coming into town for this one? xlolx

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[ST_Lawson]

Trying to fit in with the "kids these days"?

First time I saw the first part of the headline on facebook I thought the "SDSU HC John Stiegelmeyer..." bit was going to be followed up by a "has announced he will retire at the end of the 2018 season." or something.
That's WAY more believable than a guy like that getting toasted and putting his car in a ditch.

[Yote 53]

This doesn't pass the smell test. At all.


Way more to this in my opinion that what is being publicly stated.

"Didn't eat and had a glass of wine."

Cop statement says he actually drank Joose.

Rumors that Stig never drank, so he starts with the drink that you take to get absolutely hammered?

Things aren't adding up.

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That's the first thing that jumped out to me as well. The original story was he got tipsy on a little bit of wine. The police reports states "Joose". Huge difference there. A known teetotaler doesn't just start drinking Joose. If he had gotten arrested for wine or beer, even a mixed drink I wouldn't even think about this, but Joose really catches my attention because it seems so odd.

Either there is more to the story and Stig is in fact a drinker, or the police report is wrong and it wasn't the name brand Joose rather it was Vodka & Cranberry Juice or something like that and it's all just a misunderstanding.

That will not stop us from hammering this Joose thing over their heads for a good decade or so though.

[h5322rsh]

Say what you want too, and Yote53 your thin skin is showing. What else is new in the town of vermins?

[BisonFan02]

100% chance the tailgate lot in Fargo for the marker game will be sponsored by Joose.

[CappinHard]

Say what you want too, and Yote53 your thin skin is showing. What else is new in the town of vermins?

Just embrace it man... it's a black eye, nothing you can do but wear it proudly.

[Milktruck74]

Ya Boy got crunk on da JOOSE......should give him some street cred on the next recruiting cycle!!!!

[dgtw]

Damn. Seems like the Coach would have asked a family member to go out and get a bag of snacks, etc....

Why didn’t his wife make him a sammich?


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[cx500d]

Read the arrest report. This isn't a case of sipping on too much Merlot and being unaware of being over the limit.

Coach got drunk on Joose. Put his car in the ditch. Was stumbling in front of the cop. BAC was a minimum of .08. The entire story is skewed because there was no PBT taken at the scene and the BAC wasn't in the police report.

Lot's of questions about why not PBT test was given and why the story didn't come out until now since it happened back in January. National Signing Day maybe?

How many adults drink Joose? I mean, seriously. Preferred drink of the trailer park hood rat crowd.

No kidding, in the story he said he drank wine. In the police report it said he drank Joose. Seriously, Joose? I'm betting he has an alcohol problem if he drinks that.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Joose2b.jpg

[Twentysix]

No kidding, in the story he said he drank wine. In the police report it said he drank Joose. Seriously, Joose? I'm betting he has an alcohol problem if he drinks that.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Joose2b.jpgOh god 9% alcohol. It's almost like drinking two bud lights at once. Is everyone really worked up over a 9% alcohol drink?

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[cx500d]

Oh god 9% alcohol. It's almost like drinking two bud lights at once. Is everyone really worked up over a 9% alcohol drink?

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To each their own, but it's clearly a drink for those that want to get hammered.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Oh god 9% alcohol. It's almost like drinking two bud lights at once. Is everyone really worked up over a 9% alcohol drink?

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He's a class act, but circumstances are a bit odd. And he did end up in a ditch .. could have killed someone.

Joose comes in many varieties including alcohol contents from 9.9 to 12 to 14%. But what grown man needs caffeinated alcohol ?



Variants
Orange (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_(fruit)) (9.9% ABV)
Tropical (9% ABV)
Cranberry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cranberry) (9% ABV)
Dragon (9.9% ABV)
Jungle (9.9%ABV)
Mamba (9.9% ABV)
Panther (9.9% ABV)
Watermelon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon) (12% ABV)
Green Apple (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple) (12% ABV)
Fruit Punch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_Punch) (12% ABV and 14% ABV)
Raspberry Lemonade (12% ABV)
Mango (12% ABV)
Kiwi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwifruit) Strawberry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry) (14% ABV)
Orange N Cream (14% ABV)
Lemon Lime (14% ABV)

[Twentysix]

He's a class act, but circumstances are a bit odd. And he did end up in a ditch .. could have killed someone.

Joose comes in many varieties including alcohol contents from 9.9 to 12 to 14%. But what grown man needs caffeinated alcohol ?



Variants
Orange (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_(fruit)) (9.9% ABV)
Tropical (9% ABV)
Cranberry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cranberry) (9% ABV)
Dragon (9.9% ABV)
Jungle (9.9%ABV)
Mamba (9.9% ABV)
Panther (9.9% ABV)
Watermelon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon) (12% ABV)
Green Apple (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple) (12% ABV)
Fruit Punch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_Punch) (12% ABV and 14% ABV)
Raspberry Lemonade (12% ABV)
Mango (12% ABV)
Kiwi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwifruit) Strawberry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry) (14% ABV)
Orange N Cream (14% ABV)
Lemon Lime (14% ABV)

What grown man needs any alcohol? Smoke Crystal, it will put hair on your chest ya Nancy boys ;). The outrage over a sub-spirit alcohol seems really weirdly misplaced. The fact that he drove plastered and could have killed someone is where your actual outrage should be. I mean he wasn't drinking cough syrup with Jamal behind the 7-11 again right?

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[cx500d]

He's a class act, but circumstances are a bit odd. And he did end up in a ditch .. could have killed someone.

Joose comes in many varieties including alcohol contents from 9.9 to 12 to 14%. But what grown man needs caffeinated alcohol ?



Variants
Orange (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_(fruit)) (9.9% ABV)
Tropical (9% ABV)
Cranberry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cranberry) (9% ABV)
Dragon (9.9% ABV)
Jungle (9.9%ABV)
Mamba (9.9% ABV)
Panther (9.9% ABV)
Watermelon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon) (12% ABV)
Green Apple (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple) (12% ABV)
Fruit Punch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_Punch) (12% ABV and 14% ABV)
Raspberry Lemonade (12% ABV)
Mango (12% ABV)
Kiwi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwifruit) Strawberry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry) (14% ABV)
Orange N Cream (14% ABV)
Lemon Lime (14% ABV)




I used to drink red bull and vodka when I was chasing skirt.....Come to think of it, I maybe need to start back up, but now that I know Joose is available and does the same thing, I'll add it to my bar.

I wonder if the officer noticed the 2nd pair of foot tracks leaving the scene of the accident, ala Bobby Petrino

[dewey]

Meh, coach made a mistake.

Dewey

[Bisonoline]

Yeah the signs for the marker game in Fargo this year are going to be epic!xlolx

The Joose is loose!

Hey Stig lay off the Joose!

Stigelberry Blast when you only got time for one.

[Lorne_Malvo]

Giving bisonville this many months with this good of material could make for some good signs.

[TheKingpin28]

No kidding, in the story he said he drank wine. In the police report it said he drank Joose. Seriously, Joose? I'm betting he has an alcohol problem if he drinks that.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Joose2b.jpgMy go to freshman year was 4Loko before they "banned" them. Those were the days. Get so drunk you blackout but worked up on energy that you feel like you can go all night. Such a dangerous combination but those were some great months before they cracked down on it.

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[CappinHard]

So, Stig went on a local radio show today to answer some questions. First off, you've gotta give the guy a ton of props for going on a radio show the day that something like this comes out. Most of the time you'll see an official addressing of the media with no questions. You could tell that the questions he was being asked were not prepared and the radio guys weren't pulling any punches. To me, that's really telling. If someone has nothing to hide, they won't be afraid of going on the radio like that.

The biggest takeaway was that he said that the report is incorrect and he drank wine, not Joose. It is definitely possible that Stig said he had some juice, referring to alcohol in general, and the officer didn't clarify and assumed he was talking about Joose.

The BAC level will really tell a lot. If it's really high, maybe he really was on the Joose. If it's barely over 0.08, I'm going with a misinterpretation.

Here's a link to my post on the SDSU fan board if you want to see a summary of everything he said in the interview:

http://sdsufans.com/board/showthread.php?15347-Stig-Arrested-for-DUI&p=328280#post328280

[Bisonoline]

So, Stig went on a local radio show today to answer some questions. First off, you've gotta give the guy a ton of props for going on a radio show the day that something like this comes out. Most of the time you'll see an official addressing of the media with no questions. You could tell that the questions he was being asked were not prepared and the radio guys weren't pulling any punches. To me, that's really telling. If someone has nothing to hide, they won't be afraid of going on the radio like that.

The biggest takeaway was that he said that the report is incorrect and he drank wine, not Joose. It is definitely possible that Stig said he had some juice, referring to alcohol in general, and the officer didn't clarify and assumed he was talking about Joose.

The BAC level will really tell a lot. If it's really high, maybe he really was on the Joose. If it's barely over 0.08, I'm going with a misinterpretation.

Here's a link to my post on the SDSU fan board if you want to see a summary of everything he said in the interview:

http://sdsufans.com/board/showthread.php?15347-Stig-Arrested-for-DUI&p=328280#post328280

IMO this really isnt a big deal. He made a mistake. The only big deal is who he is and the fact he is pretty self righteous.

Sooooo its fun to bust your chops over it. BTW--WTF is up with the self punishment **** and nobody will will know what it is. Dude if you are going to bare your sole of being guilty ya gotta tell the tail even if its a lie. :D

[BisonFan02]

The only interesting part of this story to me is the choice of beverage and the hilarity it could ensue. I'm not gonna cast a stone at the guy....ive been there. People make mistakes. Thankfully nobody got hurt.

[TennBison]

So, Stig went on a local radio show today to answer some questions. First off, you've gotta give the guy a ton of props for going on a radio show the day that something like this comes out. Most of the time you'll see an official addressing of the media with no questions. You could tell that the questions he was being asked were not prepared and the radio guys weren't pulling any punches. To me, that's really telling. If someone has nothing to hide, they won't be afraid of going on the radio like that.

The biggest takeaway was that he said that the report is incorrect and he drank wine, not Joose. It is definitely possible that Stig said he had some juice, referring to alcohol in general, and the officer didn't clarify and assumed he was talking about Joose.

The BAC level will really tell a lot. If it's really high, maybe he really was on the Joose. If it's barely over 0.08, I'm going with a misinterpretation.

Here's a link to my post on the SDSU fan board if you want to see a summary of everything he said in the interview:

http://sdsufans.com/board/showthread.php?15347-Stig-Arrested-for-DUI&p=328280#post328280
This happened over a month ago. So if he had nothing to hide as you say by going on the radio about it, then why didn't he do something right after it happened. He only came out with it once it was discovered, he had a month to cross his T's and dot his I's. Every cop asks in a situation of DUI what it was and how much you had to drink, how do you know that the coach didn't tell the cop while at the scene that he drank Joose. Maybe Stig was drunk enough to say something he didn't want to. Very easy to say now that all he did was have a glass of wine, especially if there is no video and audio evidence of the scene/incident. But I am sure that it was the cops fault and that the one guys sober at the scene was the one who got it wrong. Nothing to look up to here, he is a guy who is in charge of many families kids and is suppose to set an example to others. Getting drunk and putting your car in a ditch isn't it. What would the punishment be for one of the players? That punishment should be multiplied x4 for the person who is suppose to know better above all others.

[CappinHard]

Another weird thing from the interview is that Stig says he took a breathalyzer, but doesn't know what his BAC was. Whereas the report says the officer could not obtain a breathalyzer. That could mean that they tried and it wasn't successful, but they didn't need that to take him in. I know he's lying about not knowing his BAC, as they would have had him take a blood test and there's no way he just didn't find out. I'm sure he didn't want to say what it was, but you could shrug the question off better than lying about not knowing what it was.

[CappinHard]

This happened over a month ago. So if he had nothing to hide as you say by going on the radio about it, then why didn't he do something right after it happened. He only came out with it once it was discovered, he had a month to cross his T's and dot his I's. Every cop asks in a situation of DUI what it was and how much you had to drink, how do you know that the coach didn't tell the cop while at the scene that he drank Joose. Maybe Stig was drunk enough to say something he didn't want to. Very easy to say now that all he did was have a glass of wine, especially if there is no video and audio evidence of the scene/incident. But I am sure that it was the cops fault and that the one guys sober at the scene was the one who got it wrong. Nothing to look up to here, he is a guy who is in charge of many families kids and is suppose to set an example to others. Getting drunk and putting your car in a ditch isn't it. What would the punishment be for one of the players? That punishment should be multiplied x4 for the person who is suppose to know better above all others.

1. He said that he didn't go public with it right away because that's what his lawyer advised him to do. But he did tell the president and AD right away.

2. I don't know if he told the cop he was drinking Joose. All I said is that it was possible that it could have been a misinterpretation. You go ahead and see what you want to see though.

3. I completely agree that he needs to take full responsibility as he is supposed to be a good example. He does seem like he's taking full responsibility for it. I also agree that the punishment should definitely be large, whether that means missing games or a monetary fine, or a combination. I also think that it shouldn't be private as he is saying it will be for now. Maybe he takes this as an opportunity to step down from the position. There's been speculation that last year or this coming one would have been his last anyway. I kind of doubt it, but it wouldn't completely surprise me either.

[Twentysix]

So, Stig went on a local radio show today to answer some questions. First off, you've gotta give the guy a ton of props for going on a radio show the day that something like this comes out. Most of the time you'll see an official addressing of the media with no questions. You could tell that the questions he was being asked were not prepared and the radio guys weren't pulling any punches. To me, that's really telling. If someone has nothing to hide, they won't be afraid of going on the radio like that.

The biggest takeaway was that he said that the report is incorrect and he drank wine, not Joose. It is definitely possible that Stig said he had some juice, referring to alcohol in general, and the officer didn't clarify and assumed he was talking about Joose.

The BAC level will really tell a lot. If it's really high, maybe he really was on the Joose. If it's barely over 0.08, I'm going with a misinterpretation.

Here's a link to my post on the SDSU fan board if you want to see a summary of everything he said in the interview:

http://sdsufans.com/board/showthread.php?15347-Stig-Arrested-for-DUI&p=328280#post328280Why would you get a high bac from a drink with 9% alcohol? I seriously don't get what you guys think joose is. It's like drinking two or three bud lights. Wine has a higher abv than joose.


Like what makes you more drunk 23 oz of joose or 23 oz of Shiraz? Definitely the shiraz.


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[TennBison]

Why would you get a high bac from a drink with 9% alcohol? I seriously don't get what you guys think joose is. It's like drinking two or three bud lights. Wine has a higher abv than joose.


Like what makes you more drunk 23 oz of joose or 23 oz of Shiraz? Definitely the shiraz.


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Probably not so much how drunk you can get off one or the other, but the image of the drink. To some people drinking wine is fully acceptable (it seems social more than any other drink), while to others some person sitting around doing shots of Joose looks bad.

[TennBison]

1. He said that he didn't go public with it right away because that's what his lawyer advised him to do. But he did tell the president and AD right away.

2. I don't know if he told the cop he was drinking Joose. All I said is that it was possible that it could have been a misinterpretation. You go ahead and see what you want to see though.

3. I completely agree that he needs to take full responsibility as he is supposed to be a good example. He does seem like he's taking full responsibility for it. I also agree that the punishment should definitely be large, whether that means missing games or a monetary fine, or a combination. I also think that it shouldn't be private as he is saying it will be for now. Maybe he takes this as an opportunity to step down from the position. There's been speculation that last year or this coming one would have been his last anyway. I kind of doubt it, but it wouldn't completely surprise me either.
I can pretty much guarantee that his lawyer told him that for reasons that benefit him, not because it was the moral thing to do. I myself have zero tolerance for any level of intoxication and driving, lost to many people in my life to others who were drunk and got behind the wheel. I am still curious to know what the punishment would be for one of his players for being DUI. Punishment should be much more severe for those who are in charge of things, they should be setting the example.

[POD Knows]

No kidding, in the story he said he drank wine. In the police report it said he drank Joose. Seriously, Joose? I'm betting he has an alcohol problem if he drinks that.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Joose2b.jpg
I am glad you posted a pic, I had no idea was Joose even was. Do you get a free brown paper bag when you buy one of those.

[POD Knows]

Why would you get a high bac from a drink with 9% alcohol? I seriously don't get what you guys think joose is. It's like drinking two or three bud lights. Wine has a higher abv than joose.


Like what makes you more drunk 23 oz of joose or 23 oz of Shiraz? Definitely the shiraz.


Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using TapatalkIf he drink the 9.9% alcohol one, which is about the same as drinking 4 cans of Bud Light, and he did it in 5 minutes, he could have an issue, the can of Joose is basically the same as 2.5 one once shots of Everclear.

[CappinHard]

I can pretty much guarantee that his lawyer told him that for reasons that benefit him, not because it was the moral thing to do. I myself have zero tolerance for any level of intoxication and driving, lost to many people in my life to others who were drunk and got behind the wheel. I am still curious to know what the punishment would be for one of his players for being DUI. Punishment should be much more severe for those who are in charge of things, they should be setting the example.

In the radio interview he mentioned that the punishment for a player getting a DUI would likely be a 1 game suspension and a $1,000 scholarship reduction. This is actually close to what a former player said happened to him under Stig.

[Professor Chaos]

In the radio interview he mentioned that the punishment for a player getting a DUI would likely be a 1 game suspension and a $1,000 scholarship reduction. This is actually close to what a former player said happened to him under Stig.
I don't really have a dog in the fight (although I have and will continue to enjoy taking a few lighthearted jabs out of this) but you can't really equate the punishment an amateur student-athlete would get with what a paid high profile public university employee gets. Admittedly I haven't looked that hard but it really appears like the SD media is treating this with kid gloves. I know the Fargo media would be all over the university to release more info if NDSU announced that a high profile coach who got a DUI would receive a self-imposed and confidential punishment no matter how significant it's claimed to be.

He seems to have handled this about as well as you could given the boneheadedness of his decision but if he would just be transparent about his punishment it would smell a lot better IMO.

[CappinHard]

If he drink the 9.9% alcohol one, which is about the same as drinking 4 cans of Bud Light, and he did it in 5 minutes, he could have an issue, the can of Joose is basically the same as 2.5 one once shots of Everclear.

This. It doesn't sound like a whole lot more, but it is when you can consume it so quickly. 24 oz. is almost 750 mL, which is a standard wine bottle containing 6 normal size glasses of wine. If you slug down a whole bottle of wine in a half hour, you're going to feel it. Just like you would feel the effects of Joose. Your BAC would definitely see the effects as well. It's also equivalent to 3-4 beers depending on alcohol content. Taking 3-4 down in a half hour is a solid pace.

Long story short, Joose will f*** you up.

[Noryan34]

Why would you get a high bac from a drink with 9% alcohol? I seriously don't get what you guys think joose is. It's like drinking two or three bud lights. Wine has a higher abv than joose.


Like what makes you more drunk 23 oz of joose or 23 oz of Shiraz? Definitely the shiraz.


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With that logic then a person can't get drunk on beer alone. xconfusedx Your assuming when he said he was drinking Joose it was 1 can.

Also FWIW 23 oz of wine is close to an entire bottle so comparing 1 can of malt beverage to a bottle of wine is well, just lazy on your part.

[TennBison]

In the radio interview he mentioned that the punishment for a player getting a DUI would likely be a 1 game suspension and a $1,000 scholarship reduction. This is actually close to what a former player said happened to him under Stig.
One game is all for a player getting a DUI, I gotta wonder if that is the average, for sure I would have thought 2-3. So OK, Stig should probably be suspended without pay for 1/3- 1/2 of the season without pay, or donate the pay to a charity (some charity along the lines of "Family's of those killed by drunk drivers").

[TennBison]

With that logic then a person can't get drunk on beer alone. xconfusedx Your assuming when he said he was drinking Joose it was 1 can.

Also FWIW 23 oz of wine is close to an entire bottle so comparing 1 can of malt beverage to a bottle of wine is well, just lazy on your part.
He didn't compare it to one malt beverage (like a can of Bud Lite), he compared it to equal amounts of content in a measuring cup of the two types of beverage that are talked about in this story. You are the one who didn't get it right.

[clenz]

Why would you get a high bac from a drink with 9% alcohol? I seriously don't get what you guys think joose is. It's like drinking two or three bud lights. Wine has a higher abv than joose.


Like what makes you more drunk 23 oz of joose or 23 oz of Shiraz? Definitely the shiraz.


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That’s not how alcohol content works.

[clenz]

He didn't compare it to one malt beverage (like a can of Bud Lite), he compared it to equal amounts of content in a measuring cup of the two types of beverage that are talked about in this story. You are the one who didn't get it right.

Two Bud Lights isn’t 9% ABV. It’s still 4.2 or whatever it is. As someone who has consumed large amounts of booze in the past in many forms - including the original joose, four loko - I can promise you one can of joose is probably closer to 5 or 6 bud lights on it’s impct on the body....plus some other impacts beyond alcohol.

[CappinHard]

I don't really have a dog in the fight (although I have and will continue to enjoy taking a few lighthearted jabs out of this) but you can't really equate the punishment an amateur student-athlete would get with what a paid high profile public university employee gets. Admittedly I haven't looked that hard but it really appears like the SD media is treating this with kid gloves. I know the Fargo media would be all over the university to release more info if NDSU announced that a high profile coach who got a DUI would receive a self-imposed and confidential punishment no matter how significant it's claimed to be.

He seems to have handled this about as well as you could given the boneheadedness of his decision but if he would just be transparent about his punishment it would smell a lot better IMO.

Completely agree.

I don't mind the jabs at all. They're warranted for the thought of Stig drinking Joose. Personally, I think we should get Joose to sponsor the stadium. For pregame to get the crowd pumped up we put Stig in an Austin 3:16 sleeveless Tshirt, have him slam two joose cans together and pour them down his gullet a la Stone Cold Steve Austin, then have him kick Thundar in the gut and promptly give him the stone cold stunner. Crowd goes crazy as the players run on the field.

[BisonTru]

Why would you get a high bac from a drink with 9% alcohol? I seriously don't get what you guys think joose is. It's like drinking two or three bud lights. Wine has a higher abv than joose.


Like what makes you more drunk 23 oz of joose or 23 oz of Shiraz? Definitely the shiraz.


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Wine is usually in the 10-14% range and this Joose stuff is 9-14%. A bottle of wine is 24.5 oz. A tall boy of Joose is 24 oz. They are pretty comparable.

[clenz]

Wine is usually in the 10-14% range and this Joose stuff is 9-14%. A bottle of wine is 24.5 oz. A tall boy of Joose is 24 oz. They are pretty comparable.
This guy gets it.

Two bud lights is not the same as one joose.

[POD Knows]

Completely agree.

I don't mind the jabs at all. They're warranted for the thought of Stig drinking Joose. Personally, I think we should get Joose to sponsor the stadium. For pregame to get the crowd pumped up we put Stig in an Austin 3:16 sleeveless Tshirt, have him slam two joose cans together and pour them down his gullet a la Stone Cold Steve Austin, then have him kick Thundar in the gut and promptly give him the stone cold stunner. Crowd goes crazy as the players run on the field.Yep, and it would probably a lot easier to pound a Joose down in a short period of time than it would be an entire bottle of wine.

[WeAreThePride]

A single 24 oz can of Joose, at 9.9% contains 2.376 ounces of ethanol.
That amount of ethanol is equivalent to:

4 and 2/3 cans of bud light.
4 shots of vodka. Yes. 4 shots of vodka likely consumed in a half hour or less.
about 4 glasses of wine, again in a half hour or less.

That's a ****pile of alcohol for a non drinker, if true.

[Bisonoline]

A single 24 oz can of Joose, at 9.9% contains 2.376 ounces of ethanol.
That amount of ethanol is equivalent to:

4 and 2/3 cans of bud light.
4 shots of vodka. Yes. 4 shots of vodka likely consumed in a half hour or less.
about 4 glasses of wine, again in a half hour or less.

That's a ****pile of alcohol for a non drinker, if true.

Youve got it. Many people dont understand that an ounce of ETOH is an ounce of ETOH regardless of the delivery method.

[Noryan34]

He didn't compare it to one malt beverage (like a can of Bud Lite), he compared it to equal amounts of content in a measuring cup of the two types of beverage that are talked about in this story. You are the one who didn't get it right.

The serving sizes are nowhere near similar. Now your just making up numbers to justify what your saying. When comparing food and drink items you use serving sizes as a way to compare between like and unlike products. It is less related to volume and weight and more to do with amount typically served.

So you are comparing 1 serving of Joose (1 can) to 5 servings of wine (1 glass).

Nice try though.

[Noryan34]

Youve got it. Many people dont understand that an ounce of ETOH is an ounce of ETOH regardless of the delivery method.

It's EtOH not ETOH

Hate nitpicking but it was bothering me. :D

[BisonFan02]

Yep, and it would probably a lot easier to pound a Joose down in a short period of time than it would be an entire bottle of wine.

Who's accepting that challenge? xlolx Thumper gets a Joose and we will make the POD chug a cab. :D

[JayJ79]

people dismiss getting drunk and crashing your car as no big deal, but pitch a fit about someone taking a knee during the national anthem.
makes sense.

[POD Knows]

Who's accepting that challenge? xlolx Thumper gets a Joose and we will make the POD chug a cab. :DChrist, he would kick my ass, I can drink a lot of wine but I can't drink it fast, I might have to go try one of those Jooce things to see what they are like, that might be the new tailgate drink, don't have to carry so much **** around, half dozen of those and some small brown paper bags and I would be in business.

[TheKingpin28]

Christ, he would kick my ass, I can drink a lot of wine but I can't drink it fast, I might have to go try one of those Jooce things to see what they are like, that might be the new tailgate drink, don't have to carry so much **** around, half dozen of those and some small brown paper bags and I would be in business.If you drink a half dozen of those, I'm pretty sure you'd be close to, if not, dead. It's why we drank the 4Lokos back in the day. Spend $10 or so for 3 and try and drink them as fast as you can so you get so trashed you couldn't remember your own name and yet you could go all night due to the energy.

However, it is settled that for the Dakota Marker game, we get a plane to fly over with the banner saying "The Joose Is Loose" and watch people think OJ is at the game. Hell I'd have one of those for that game, just to slight the Bunnies.

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[Twentysix]

With that logic then a person can't get drunk on beer alone. xconfusedx Your assuming when he said he was drinking Joose it was 1 can.

Also FWIW 23 oz of wine is close to an entire bottle so comparing 1 can of malt beverage to a bottle of wine is well, just lazy on your part.

I have a very hard time getting drunk on beer alone unless I'm shotgunning it, dehydrated, or haven't eaten in 20+ hours, and I rarely drink. So yes that's kind of how I feel about it. Stig is a football coach I guess I just assumed he was a big dude who had played football. I'm 6'3 280ish and beer barely works.

Why is it lazy to compare the two? Unless he was drinking at a restaurant, which isn't going to sell joose anyway so he obviously couldn't have been, a bottle of wine is pretty easy to drink. It's not even two full goblets to drink a bottle. He's a football coach that makes 200k in Brookings SD. He can probably afford a few whole $12 bottles lol.


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[Twentysix]

The serving sizes are nowhere near similar. Now your just making up numbers to justify what your saying. When comparing food and drink items you use serving sizes as a way to compare between like and unlike products. It is less related to volume and weight and more to do with amount typically served.

So you are comparing 1 serving of Joose (1 can) to 5 servings of wine (1 glass).

Nice try though.Literally no one drinks wine in a glass that is 15% full at home. Get real. You fill it up. 2 full glasses at home is totally reasonable and is an entire bottle, also Shiraz is typically 16% abv. You clearly don't drink wine.


Did the football coach who is probably in the .001% of Brookings with his $200,000/yr salary get drunk on $3 joose, maybe. Did he get drunk on 1 or 2 bottles of wine? Seems more likely tbh.

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[TheKingpin28]

Literally no one drinks wine in a glass that is 15% full at home. Get real. You fill it up. 2 full glasses at home is totally reasonable and is an entire bottle, also Shiraz is typically 16% abv. You clearly don't drink wine.


Did the football coach who is probably in the .001% of Brookings with his $200,000/yr salary get drunk on $3 joose, maybe. Did he get drunk on 1 or 2 bottles of wine? Seems more likely tbh.

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180303/6818cd844f41d7ef69d37d271ed65fdd.jpgIf you are not slapping the bag, are really drinking wine?

#srsquestionissrs

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[Bisonoline]

people dismiss getting drunk and crashing your car as no big deal, but pitch a fit about someone taking a knee during the national anthem.
makes sense.

The comparison is a non starter.

[Bisonoline]

It's EtOH not ETOH

Hate nitpicking but it was bothering me. :D

If it makes you feel better Im good with it.xthumbsupx

[CappinHard]

people dismiss getting drunk and crashing your car as no big deal, but pitch a fit about someone taking a knee during the national anthem.
makes sense.

Because one of them is an American pastime and the other is downright unamerican. xsmiley_wix

The latter is equivalent to... *looks around the room, pulls pin on grenade* saying Bison instead of brave at the end of the anthem. *runs out of the room to avoid the explosion* :D

[cx500d]

Why would you get a high bac from a drink with 9% alcohol? I seriously don't get what you guys think joose is. It's like drinking two or three bud lights. Wine has a higher abv than joose.


Like what makes you more drunk 23 oz of joose or 23 oz of Shiraz? Definitely the shiraz.


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Typically you aren't going to pound that oaky shiraz because it just isn't a thirst quenching type of drink, but you will pound that ice cold sweet fizzy Joose, followed quickly by another.....Then the caffeine kicks in, followed by another....

[Twentysix]

Typically you aren't going to pound that oaky shiraz because it just isn't a thirst quenching type of drink, but you will pound that ice cold sweet fizzy Joose, followed quickly by another.....Then the caffeine kicks in, followed by another....

Maybe hes a real housewife of miami in the offseason

[MR. CHICKEN]

.......DRINKIN' TA FO'GET..............JMU..............AWK!

[Evolution Prime]

Completely agree.

I don't mind the jabs at all. They're warranted for the thought of Stig drinking Joose. Personally, I think we should get Joose to sponsor the stadium. For pregame to get the crowd pumped up we put Stig in an Austin 3:16 sleeveless Tshirt, have him slam two joose cans together and pour them down his gullet a la Stone Cold Steve Austin, then have him kick Thundar in the gut and promptly give him the stone cold stunner. Crowd goes crazy as the players run on the field.

Sell Joose at the concession stands. Then when the show Stig on the video board, we all yell "The Joose is loose!" and everyone shotguns their can.

[ST_Lawson]

I have a very hard time getting drunk on beer alone unless I'm shotgunning it, dehydrated, or haven't eaten in 20+ hours, and I rarely drink. So yes that's kind of how I feel about it. Stig is a football coach I guess I just assumed he was a big dude who had played football. I'm 6'3 280ish and beer barely works.

Doesn't look like he ever played football...not at the collegiate level anyway. I've never been up close to him, but he's always seemed more "average sized" to me.
http://worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2015/09/03/Stig_t640.jpg?a6ea3ebd4438a44b86d2e9c39ecf7613005f e067
"The Selby, S.D., native first became acquainted with the Jackrabbit football program as a student assistant under John Gregory during SDSU’s only NCAA Division II playoff season in 1979. After graduating from SDSU with degrees in mathematics and physical education, Stiegelmeier enrolled in graduate school at the University of Northern Iowa, where he served on the coaching staff of a Panther squad which posted a 7-4 mark in 1981."

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Coach Stig made a stupid mistake. Take the punishment and be better for it.

[Thumper 76]

Doesn't look like he ever played football...not at the collegiate level anyway. I've never been up close to him, but he's always seemed more "average sized" to me.
http://worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2015/09/03/Stig_t640.jpg?a6ea3ebd4438a44b86d2e9c39ecf7613005f e067
"The Selby, S.D., native first became acquainted with the Jackrabbit football program as a student assistant under John Gregory during SDSU’s only NCAA Division II playoff season in 1979. After graduating from SDSU with degrees in mathematics and physical education, Stiegelmeier enrolled in graduate school at the University of Northern Iowa, where he served on the coaching staff of a Panther squad which posted a 7-4 mark in 1981."

Stig is not a large person.


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[Beer]

Stig is not a large person.

He just looks small because you only ever see him with a bunch of tallboys.

[Thumper 76]

He just looks small because you only ever see him with a bunch of tallboys.

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[Professor Chaos]

True to form Fargo's resident Skip Bayless wannabe is throwing his xtwocentsx out there about the matter. Like I said earlier, this guy and others would've had a field day if this had happened to an NDSU coach.

http://mcfeely.areavoices.com/2018/03/02/sdsu-athletic-director-says-hell-set-punishment-for-stiegelmeier-who-then-will-add-more/

[Elvis was a Bison]

So, what's the skinny on his "day in court"?

[Evolution Prime]

So, what's the skinny on his "day in court"?

Drink the remaining Joose in Brookings and surrounding counties and reflect upon what he has done. (http://www.ksfy.com/content/news/SDSU-football-coach-Stiegelmeier-pleads-no-contest-to-DUI-477149183.html)

[Elvis was a Bison]

You mean donate and skate?

[BisonBacker]

Drink the remaining Joose in Brookings and surrounding counties and reflect upon what he has done. (http://www.ksfy.com/content/news/SDSU-football-coach-Stiegelmeier-pleads-no-contest-to-DUI-477149183.html)

How the hell is this possible?


John Stiegelmeier, 61, pleaded no contest in a court appearance on March 5. He asked the judge to immediately seal the court records, and the judge granted it.
Brookings County officials say the arrangement is common when the defendant does not have a criminal record. The case could be wiped from his record if he follows the terms of his probation.


To say this is normal I can only say "Not in Minnesota" or anywhere else that I'm familiar with. A DUI wiped from your record NEVER HAPPENS. Unless I'm misreading this or they meant to say something else but just as it's worded I call BS. That isn't normal to have any public record sealed for an adult regardless of criminal history and certainly not to have it wiped from his record. I'd like to hear more about how "Normal" this is in SD from any other person ever convicted in SD for a DUI or any other legal infraction they had be it a criminal driving record or otherwise and was that case sealed for you and wiped from your record if you completed sentencing and probation? No I don't expect anyone to answer for obvious reasons but I smell a rat there.

[Lorne_Malvo]

S.D.

You may be able to have a DUI record expunged if it was a misdemeanor and occurred 10 years from the date of final disposition, though you will have to undergo an alcohol evaluation and submit letters of recommendation and proof of sound moral character.

[BisonBacker]

S.D.

You may be able to have a DUI record expunged if it was a misdemeanor and occurred 10 years from the date of final disposition, though you will have to undergo an alcohol evaluation and submit letters of recommendation and proof of sound moral character.

You work in the legal field in SD? Just curious or do you have a link to the SD legal statute that covers this? Just asking as I'm interested as an ex LEO in Minnesota. I've heard of having things in certain instances expunged from a persons record but never a DUI. If what you are saying is true is this something new in SD?

[Yote 53]

Suspended imposition of sentence. His record was sealed immediately. That's why there is no info on his BAC or any other details. South Dakota media dropped the ball and completely covered this up. It's a black stain on SDSU. I know of a person who used to work at USD who was fired for getting a DUI. This is a low-level government employee at USD who had like a secretary or records keeping type job, probably didn't pay over $30k per year, and they got fired. But one of the highest profile and highest paid public employees in the state skates free and no questions are asked, it's shameful.

Also, in South Dakota you can have a misdemeanor charge expunged from you public record after 10 years. It is information still available to court officials but anyone doing a public records search, like an employer, won't find it. This law was passed in 2016. There is a similar bill being bounced around in Minnesota currently. The issue is that a person can get a misdemeanor and, with computers and readily accessible information, it can follow them around for 20-30 years. Prospective employers can use stuff that happened 25 years ago against people. The social punishment is too great and long lasting.

[BisonBacker]

Yeah I've been out of Law Enforcement for over 15 years. Don't keep up with that stuff anymore but surprising to see that. Yeah it's a double edged sword and no it doesn't surprise me they are changing this given today's society and how we look at punishment if you want to call it that. In this case it's a joke.

[BisonBacker]

Thanks Yote53 for the info by the way.

[Yote 53]

Misdemeanor offenses shouldn't follow somebody around the rest of their lives. I think these states are getting it right by putting a time limit on how long that info is on your public record. A guy does something stupid in college, even something as simple as an underage consumption ticket, and they are having to answer questions about it in an employment interview 25 years later when they are 45? Yeah, that happens in corporate America, and it is messed up.

[BisonBacker]

Misdemeanor offenses shouldn't follow somebody around the rest of their lives. I think these states are getting it right by putting a time limit on how long that info is on your public record. A guy does something stupid in college, even something as simple as an underage consumption ticket, and they are having to answer questions about it in an employment interview 25 years later when they are 45? Yeah, that happens in corporate America, and it is messed up.

I have no problem with the underage drinking I agree we all did it or most did. DUI though is another thing. You can be underage and drink and do stupid **** all you want as long as your the only one it hurts. Drunk Driving is a different story. You not only put yourself at risk but anyone else on the road and that dumbass decision I have no problem with a person having to explain it away in a job interview 5 years or 15 years later. If the employer agree's with you it's no big deal so be it. But what if they don't? What if the position is a transportation related job like a Bus driver or a train engineer or a pilot? You still think it is irrelevant?

By the way, it's called "A RECORD" for a reason. When you allow that to be edited because "it follows you around corporate America" to f'n bad. Should have thought about that before hand.

[Yote 53]

By the way, it's called "A RECORD" for a reason. When you allow that to be edited because "it follows you around corporate America" to f'n bad. Should have thought about that before hand.

We will simply disagree on this. There is a statute of limitations on minor offenses and people shouldn't be paying a price for something minor a couple of decades down the road.

[BisonBacker]

We will simply disagree on this. There is a statute of limitations on minor offenses and people shouldn't be paying a price for something minor a couple of decades down the road.
I don't consider a DUI something minor.

[jacksfan29]

I have no problem with the underage drinking I agree we all did it or most did. DUI though is another thing. You can be underage and drink and do stupid **** all you want as long as your the only one it hurts. Drunk Driving is a different story. You not only put yourself at risk but anyone else on the road and that dumbass decision I have no problem with a person having to explain it away in a job interview 5 years or 15 years later. If the employer agree's with you it's no big deal so be it. But what if they don't? What if the position is a transportation related job like a Bus driver or a train engineer or a pilot? You still think it is irrelevant?

By the way, it's called "A RECORD" for a reason. When you allow that to be edited because "it follows you around corporate America" to f'n bad. Should have thought about that before hand.

Do you live in North Dakota? If so, South Dakota is strict in comparison

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/north-dakota-dui-dwi-33631.html

Minnesota is identical to South Dakota, 10 years.

At one point South Dakota was 7 years, it was increased to 10.

[Redbird 4th & short]

I don't consider a DUI something minor.

I think there are shades of grey with DUIs, and in some cases, there should be some lenience at some point for one time offenders with a compelling story of an isolated limited mistake .. judgement is required, but sometimes you have to look at things in shades of grey, not simply black and white.

For me .. this one is more problematic .... he put his car in a ditch, was visibly very drunk, lied about what he was drinking, and the school somehow got the press to not report this for a month. And now, the court agrees to seal the records. Does he deserve a 2nd chance .. I'm thinking, yes .. but only if a professional determines whether or not he has a drinking problem and requires help.

But again .. he put his car in a ditch ... he could have killed someone if there were another car or pedestrian nearby at time he lost control. And there was an attempt to cover this up and white wash it.

[BisonBacker]

Do you live in North Dakota? If so, South Dakota is strict in comparison

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/north-dakota-dui-dwi-33631.html

Minnesota is identical to South Dakota, 10 years.

At one point South Dakota was 7 years, it was increased to 10.

No I don't live in ND. Doesn't matter where I live I wasn't the one behind the wheel slobbered up on Joooce or whatever the hell he was drinking. Listen I'm not saying he needs to be crucified but having his record sealed and then wiped clean in X amount of years if he completes rehab and behaves himself is BS. You can defend it till the cows come home it ain't right. You expect better from those who are supposed to be setting an example. It will be interesting to see the next athlete at SDSU who runs afoul of the law to see if he or she gets the same treatment. What a load of ****.

[Yote 53]

I don't consider a DUI something minor.

I think it depends on the details. Somebody who is barely over the limit and driving in a relatively traffic free area is a different case than hammered drunk on a major crowded freeway swerving around in traffic or a multiple time offender.

It doesn't really matter what you think is minor, by definition it is a misdemeanor offense in this country.