Vandal 2018 Schedule

[VandalBasher]

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-18/2018-idaho-vandals-football-schedule.php

We have SUU and UND on the schedule. For our first year back, I would have preferred to have Weber and NAU due to our legacy games of the 80's and 90's. I would have liked a game against SAC St. or Cal Poly. But, I plan to make the UC Davis game.

Idaho still has to add one more game to the schedule in September. Overall, this is a solid line up.

Go Vandals

[PantherRob82]

Looks like UNI and Idaho could renew the series on 9/8

[caribbeanhen]

Are you eligible for the playoffs in 2018?

[VandalBasher]

Are you eligible for the playoffs in 2018?

I believe we are eligible in 2018. The rule, as I understand it, is the transition between FCS and FBS only affects the move up and not the other way. My guess is the rule book will catch up with this unprecedented move. There just is no rule in place at this time.

Others with factual info, please chime in. I don't have any other info at this time.

[PantherRob82]

I would assume it depends on if they are over the scholarship limit or # of coaches. If not, what's the difference?

[VandalBasher]

I would assume it depends on if they are over the scholarship limit or # of coaches. If not, what's the difference?

We have been playing FBS football for years under the 85 scholarships. I am certain we will have the total down to the necessary 63.

As for coaches, I am uninformed about the rules.

[caribbeanhen]

I believe we are eligible in 2018. The rule, as I understand it, is the transition between FCS and FBS only affects the move up and not the other way. My guess is the rule book will catch up with this unprecedented move. There just is no rule in place at this time.

Others with factual info, please chime in. I don't have any other info at this time.

all that makes alot of sense, thanks VandalB

[katss07]

Huh, Idaho being eligible makes things very interesting. I’m sure most Idaho fans know how the FCS Playoffs work, so how far do you think you guys could potentially go? I’m sure the Vandals will compete for the Big Sky (just based on last year’s talent)

[VandalBasher]

Huh, Idaho being eligible makes things very interesting. I’m sure most Idaho fans know how the FCS Playoffs work, so how far do you think you guys could potentially go? I’m sure the Vandals will compete for the Big Sky (just based on last year’s talent)

I appreciate your confidence in our team. It has been a while since we lost to an FCS team (2012). But, Eastern Washington and Montana currently have a couple of streaks against us even while playing FBS football. To be fair, we have to play each game before we can have any expectation of making the playoffs.

[katss07]

I appreciate your confidence in our team. It has been a while since we lost to an FCS team (2012). But, Eastern Washington and Montana currently have a couple of streaks against us even while playing FBS football. To be fair, we have to play each game before we can have any expectation of making the playoffs.
SUU and EWU on back to back weeks is tough. I’d have high expectations for Idaho. The Big Sky is down, but I guess I don’t really know that much about the team. As long as you have a D, you will be okay. I would like to see Idaho make a trip to Huntsville in the near future!

[VandalBasher]

Based on 2017 results, Idaho was rated at 139 according to Massey. On nothing else, the Vandals would have finished sixth. Here are the results of the Big Sky:



60
Weber St (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=8636&s=295489)
11-30.786
33.7
17.6
5-10.833
38.3
14.7
6-20.750
30.3
19.8
9-10.900
32.7
16.3



86
Southern Utah (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=7399&s=295489)
9-30.750
33.6
28.0
5-10.833
33.0
22.3
4-20.667
34.2
33.7
7-20.778
34.1
24.9



99
E Washington (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=2383&s=295489)
7-40.636
34.5
33.4
3-20.600
35.0
30.2
4-20.667
34.0
36.0
6-20.750
37.5
31.3



134
CS Sacramento (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=1067&s=295489)
7-40.636
37.6
29.7
5-10.833
46.2
28.2
2-30.400
27.4
31.6
6-30.667
39.1
30.8



138
Montana (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=5035&s=295489)
7-40.636
35.0
29.0
5-10.833
40.7
20.0
2-30.400
28.2
39.8
5-30.625
34.6
28.8



141
Northern Arizona (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=5620&s=295489)
7-50.583
30.3
29.7
5-20.714
33.4
28.4
2-30.400
25.8
31.4
6-20.750
34.0
24.9



150
Montana St (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=5042&s=295489)
5-60.455
25.3
25.0
3-30.500
24.5
21.8
2-30.400
26.2
28.8
5-30.625
29.6
24.6



161
UC Davis (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=8200&s=295489)
5-60.455
33.6
32.2
3-20.600
35.8
29.4
2-40.333
31.8
34.5
4-50.444
35.3
34.3



207
North Dakota (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=5538&s=295489)
3-80.273
25.2
34.6
2-30.400
28.8
28.4
1-50.167
22.2
39.8
2-60.250
27.5
37.4



214
Idaho St (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=3421&s=295489)
4-70.364
28.1
35.5
3-20.600
36.4
33.0
1-50.167
21.2
37.7
2-60.250
28.6
38.3



229
N Colorado (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=5625&s=295489)
3-70.300
27.8
34.1
3-20.600
32.8
22.0
0-50.000
22.8
46.2
2-60.250
27.0
35.8



262
Cal Poly (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=1032&s=295489)
1-100.091
18.5
32.0
1-40.200
15.2
28.4
0-60.000
21.2
35.0
1-70.125
17.3
31.6



307
Portland St (https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=6302&s=295489)
0-110.000
23.3
43.0
0-50.000
21.0
47.0
0-60.000
25.2
39.7
0-90.000
24.2
46.4



https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=3415&s=295489

[VandalBasher]

If we use the Sagarin model, Idaho was ranked 133 and would have been even further down the rankings in the Big Sky.

21 BIG SKY (AA)= 51.98 50.97
FINAL College Football 2017 through games of 2018 January 8 Monday - National Championship Game
HOME ADVANTAGE= [ 3.19] [ 4.00] [ 2.39]
COMBO W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10| VS top 30 ELO BLUE
59 Weber State AA = 71.16 11 3 58.35( 109) 0 0 | 0 1 72.95( 47) 67.64( 70)
88 Southern Utah AA = 64.39 9 3 56.22( 127) 0 0 | 0 0 66.66( 80) 60.35( 100)
101 Eastern Washington AA = 61.18 7 4 57.76( 113) 0 0 | 0 1 64.35( 87) 56.26( 118)
118 Sacramento State AA = 57.57 7 4 49.48( 171) 0 0 | 0 0 57.29( 115) 55.89( 122)
123 Northern Arizona AA = 56.50 7 5 53.72( 144) 0 0 | 0 0 57.29( 114) 53.76( 134)
124 Montana State AA = 56.21 5 6 57.13( 116) 0 0 | 0 1 56.06( 122) 54.40( 127)
125 Montana AA = 55.79 7 4 47.00( 180) 0 0 | 0 1 55.57( 125) 54.05( 131)
130 UC Davis AA = 54.21 5 6 53.82( 142) 0 0 | 0 0 52.94( 136) 53.52( 135)
172 North Dakota AA = 45.30 3 8 55.78( 130) 0 0 | 0 0 43.53( 171) 45.10( 167)
188 Northern Colorado AA = 41.69 3 7 54.35( 141) 0 0 | 0 0 39.04( 191) 42.29( 174)
191 Idaho State AA = 40.89 4 7 52.01( 156) 0 0 | 0 0 38.64( 192) 41.13( 178)
220 Cal Poly-SLO AA = 31.56 1 10 51.87( 158) 0 0 | 0 0 19.55( 240) 37.36( 197)
235 Portland State AA = 26.14 0 11 51.69( 161) 0 0 | 0 0 10.44( 251) 32.28( 212)

[dgtw]

I believe we are eligible in 2018. The rule, as I understand it, is the transition between FCS and FBS only affects the move up and not the other way. My guess is the rule book will catch up with this unprecedented move. There just is no rule in place at this time.

Others with factual info, please chime in. I don't have any other info at this time.

I could see the NCAA making you wait under the theory that the players you signed as FBS members would be better than FCS players.




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[F'N Hawks]

Pretty sure UND is not playing Idaho. The UND website has them playing at MSU on Nov 3rd.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Huh, Idaho being eligible makes things very interesting. I’m sure most Idaho fans know how the FCS Playoffs work, so how far do you think you guys could potentially go? I’m sure the Vandals will compete for the Big Sky (just based on last year’s talent)

Um....no.

They will be in the upper half but losing all the senior laden skill players and QB will hinder them. Even with the players they had last year they would struggle to be in the top 3. The Vandal defense will be in good shape they have 3 senior LBs back and their younger players in the secondary got a lot of playing time last year. Like I said they should be able to be in the top half of the BSC.

[VandalBasher]

It will be interesting how this season will play out. I look forward to seeing you at the tailgate in November.

[VandalBasher]

Um....no.

They will be in the upper half but losing all the senior laden skill players and QB will hinder them. Even with the players they had last year they would struggle to be in the top 3. The Vandal defense will be in good shape they have 3 senior LBs back and their younger players in the secondary got a lot of playing time last year. Like I said they should be able to be in the top half of the BSC.

ESPN has our 2017 roster with 105 players on it with only 14 seniors departing and 47 freshman that will be ready to play this next year as sophomores. It isn't so much loss of players than development of players.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/roster/_/id/70/sort/experience/order/true



1
Alfonso Onunwor (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4048932/alfonso-onunwor)
WR
6-1
195
SR
Cleveland, OH


8
Armond Hawkins (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/553234/armond-hawkins)
DB
5-10
203
SR
Rancho Cucamonga, CA


8
Jacob Sannon (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/553248/jacob-sannon)
WR
5-11
193
SR
Bradenton, FL


10
Matt Linehan (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/553235/matt-linehan)
QB
6-3
239
SR
Orchard Lake, MI


18
Kahshan Greene (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/552040/kahshan-greene)
DB
5-10
170
SR
East Palo Alto, CA


22
Leonard Hazewood (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/3918086/leonard-hazewood)
LB
6-4
248
SR
Sacramento, CA


23
Aaron Duckworth (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/3124888/aaron-duckworth)
RB
5-8
203
SR
Orange Park, FL


26
Reuben Mwehla (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/553242/reuben-mwehla)
WR
5-10
174
SR
Bellevue, WA


45
Josh Herman (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4048923/josh-herman)
FB
6-1
254
SR
Tulsa, OK


76
Jordan Rose (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/3124906/jordan-rose)
OL
6-6
325
SR
Spokane, WA


82
Will Schmidt (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/553249/will-schmidt)
DL
6-3
230
SR
Seattle, WA


90
Zach Cable (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/553077/zach-cable)
DL
6-3
258
SR
Renton, WA


93
Arie Anderson (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4048911/arie-anderson)
DL
6-1
302
SR
Millbrook, AL


97
Aikeem Coleman (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4048915/aikeem-coleman)
DL
6-3
275
SR
Hattiesburg, MS

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

This guy did a pretty good write up on your team, that's where I got the info from.

http://maroonblood.com/forum/main-forum/285-idaho-vandals

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[ursus arctos horribilis]

We have been playing FBS football for years under the 85 scholarships. I am certain we will have the total down to the necessary 63.

As for coaches, I am uninformed about the rules.

You guys shouldn't have much trouble with the schollies because I've posted here a few times over the last few years you were operating at 75 or slightly less most of the time from what I remember.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I could see the NCAA making you wait under the theory that the players you signed as FBS members would be better than FCS players.




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No, not based on talent level. They recruit based on D1 standard so that is the only thing on the books for keeping a team out on transition that I've taken note of as far as players go regarding recruiting. The other issues raised as possibilities prior would seem to be the only sticking points.

[VandalBasher]

This guy did a pretty good write up on your team, that's where I got the info from.

http://maroonblood.com/forum/main-forum/285-idaho-vandals

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Yes, this is a decent write up. Of our 11 game schedule, we are playing Fresno State and Florida. Both of these teams would take a miracle.

To get seven wins from the remaining nine is quite a bit to ask for. I can see the Vandals going 6-5 (5-3 BSC) in Year 1. I believe this is what most fans are expecting.

[dgtw]

No, not based on talent level. They recruit based on D1 standard so that is the only thing on the books for keeping a team out on transition that I've taken note of as far as players go regarding recruiting. The other issues raised as possibilities prior would seem to be the only sticking points.

I agree, but the NCAA isn’t known for logical thinking sometimes.


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[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Yes, this is a decent write up. Of our 11 game schedule, we are playing Fresno State and Florida. Both of these teams would take a miracle.

To get seven wins from the remaining nine is quite a bit to ask for. I can see the Vandals going 6-5 (5-3 BSC) in Year 1. I believe this is what most fans are expecting.

Fair enough I can see you guys 4-4 or 5-3 in the BSC and you are right the Fresno and Florida games are harsh but at least you will make some $$$ on those games.

[VandalBasher]

No, not based on talent level. They recruit based on D1 standard so that is the only thing on the books for keeping a team out on transition that I've taken note of as far as players go regarding recruiting. The other issues raised as possibilities prior would seem to be the only sticking points.

"In order to be eligible for the FCS postseason, Idaho will see a reduction in the number of available football scholarships from 85 to 63. It’s part of the reason why the school is making the transition over two years."

It appears we will have a two year period of "transition." However, I believe we will be at the necessary number of scholarships to be eligible that started in 2016.

https://apnews.com/261fca1a322b466e98b8a006de825b38/idaho-dropping-fcs-beginning-2018-season

[ursus arctos horribilis]

"In order to be eligible for the FCS postseason, Idaho will see a reduction in the number of available football scholarships from 85 to 63. It’s part of the reason why the school is making the transition over two years."

It appears we will have a two year period of "transition." However, I believe we will be at the necessary number of scholarships to be eligible that started in 2016.

https://apnews.com/261fca1a322b466e98b8a006de825b38/idaho-dropping-fcs-beginning-2018-season

Yes, that makes sense and I had known they were in a draw down phase but there will also now be the ability for Idaho to split some of the scholarships they used to give out in whole under FBS. Partial schollies will probably make the overall amount (numbers) of kids on scholarship not really move that much other than some normal attrition due to a reduction.

Idaho was drawing down from "available" scholarships of 85 but I've followed Idaho a fair bit over the last decade and I don't believe they have ever taken the full amount of that availability...do you know if they have? I think it's been primarily just around/under 80 and of course has drawn down the last few years for obvious reasons in the move.

One thing I'm gonna be watching is your season ticket prices. They have been very low and would have ranked near the bottom of the BSC and I think Idaho will actually be able to raise up the prices a bit with some renewal of rivalries and I guarantee that there will be some Montana fans buying season tickets at Idaho for those games we go there like used to happen back in the 90's.

Hell, I'm thinking about season tickets just to sort of spite they whiny dip****s crying about the move and saying they are out and this will ruin Idaho Football.

Screw it, Alfa me and you are buying Idaho season tickets this year. BTW, as much as people make fun of the Kibbie Dome (me included) I like going there for a game and tailgating and so forth. It is a good time.

[BadlandsGrizFan]

the last 6 of your season could be pretty heart breaking..lol. And ening it with Florida...OUCHHHH

[geaux_sioux]

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-18/2018-idaho-vandals-football-schedule.php

We have SUU and UND on the schedule. For our first year back, I would have preferred to have Weber and NAU due to our legacy games of the 80's and 90's. I would have liked a game against SAC St. or Cal Poly. But, I plan to make the UC Davis game.

Idaho still has to add one more game to the schedule in September. Overall, this is a solid line up.

Go Vandals

We owe you guys one for those two shalackings we took out there at the beginning of our transition.

[mmiller_34]

I am very interested how the transition from FBS to FCS goes. I am on the same page with most, I think Idaho does well next year, but I'm not sure if they beat out some of the upper Big Sky teams next year. Montana State could be up next year too.

[RootinFerDukes]

I'm glad to see at least one vandal fan on here. Welcome. Your program will be better off in FCS and the Big Sky. What fans remain won't take long to realize that. The quality of your football program and fan experience are going to improve with regional rivals and similar institutions. Playing for meaningful postseason football is better than bowls 10 times out of 10.

[VandalBasher]

the last 6 of your season could be pretty heart breaking..lol. And ening it with Florida...OUCHHHH

I really believe those last five games + Florida aren't any tougher than our last six Sun Belt Conference games. Will we win? I can't say. But, I am throwing out there we will go at least 3-3 in that stretch.

[RootinFerDukes]

I really believe those last five games + Florida aren't any tougher than our last six Sun Belt Conference games. Will we win? I can't say. But, I am throwing out there we will go at least 3-3 in that stretch.

With a 10 game schedule and assuming both FBS are losses, Idaho would probably have to win 7 of those 8 Big Sky games to have a hope of making the playoffs. The one Big Sky loss needs to be to a quality team too. SUU, EWU or UM.

[VandalBasher]

With a 10 game schedule and assuming both FBS are losses, Idaho would probably have to win 7 of those 8 Big Sky games to have a hope of making the playoffs. The one Big Sky loss needs to be to a quality team too. SUU, EWU or UM.

We will have an 11 game schedule before the start of the season. Our eleventh game will most likely be against Simon Fraser or a similar school. It is my prediction we go 5-3 in BSC play ending the season at 6-5.

[RootinFerDukes]

We will have an 11 game schedule before the start of the season. Our eleventh game will most likely be against Simon Fraser or a similar school. It is my prediction we go 5-3 in BSC play ending the season at 6-5.

D2 schools don't count as a win for purposes of playoff eligibility, unlike FCS schools counting towards a bowl berth for an FBS school. It's not a set in stone rule but there have been many 7 win schools with one being D2 and losing out on that final at-large berth to a 7 D1 win school.

7 D1 wins is an unofficial "on the bubble" mark for teams in most FCS conferences that receive at least one at-large bid.

[VandalBasher]

D2 schools don't count as a win for purposes of playoff eligibility, unlike FCS schools counting towards a bowl berth for an FBS school. It's not a set in stone rule but there have been many 7 win schools with one being D2 and losing out on that final at-large berth to a 7 D1 win school.

7 D1 wins is an unofficial "on the bubble" mark for teams in most FCS conferences that receive at least one at-large bid.

Total WINS and eligibility for the PLAYOFFS is a separate conversation from making the playoffs. I still think the Vandals finish the year at 6-5 (5-3 BSC) without a playoff berth in our first year back.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

D2 schools don't count as a win for purposes of playoff eligibility, unlike FCS schools counting towards a bowl berth for an FBS school. It's not a set in stone rule but there have been many 7 win schools with one being D2 and losing out on that final at-large berth to a 7 D1 win school.

7 D1 wins is an unofficial "on the bubble" mark for teams in most FCS conferences that receive at least one at-large bid.

Well that is the part is sort of murky now. They count a little bit apparently but we just don't know how much or at least didn't last I heard.

FWIW I'm in the don't count em' crowd as well.

[clenz]

Total WINS and eligibility for the PLAYOFFS is a separate conversation from making the playoffs. I still think the Vandals finish the year at 6-5 (5-3 BSC) without a playoff berth in our first year back.

6-5 in the Big Sky isn’t getting you in.


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[ursus arctos horribilis]

6-5 in the Big Sky isn’t getting you in.


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He was not saying it was.

[clenz]

He was not saying it was.

I misread. My sincerest apologies to the new poster.

I should actually put my contacts in in the morning.


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[ursus arctos horribilis]

I misread. My sincerest apologies to the new poster.

I should actually put my contacts in in the morning.


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These first few Vandal posters are a pretty dang good bunch so far which I did not really expect from the things we've all seen prior to this move. Really pleasant mofo's so far.

[VandalBasher]

No issues. I think our move to the Big Sky will take a lot of patience on the part of our fans, football team and peer institutions. I am still speaking from a point of view that has no real substance other than hearsay.

It would be a great thing to be able to get into the playoffs this next season. I am just more focused on UC Davis before too much of that discussion. But, it is reasonable for us to believe we will have a winning season in 2018.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

No issues. I think our move to the Big Sky will take a lot of patience on the part of our fans, football team and peer institutions. I am still speaking from a point of view that has no real substance other than hearsay.

It would be a great thing to be able to get into the playoffs this next season. I am just more focused on UC Davis before too much of that discussion. But, it is reasonable for us to believe we will have a winning season in 2018.

UC Davis is/was a bit under the radar and it sure looks like they were building a team that could be fairly impressive and tough to get by next season.

Unless you are a coach or a player though trust me, it's fine to look ahead and speculate...it is a large part of what we argue about around here. xlolx

[JSUBison]

Has anyone told Florida that Idaho will be FCS next year? Florida has Charleston Southern scheduled as well, and they can only count one of them. Assuming Florida wins of course.

[VandalBasher]

Has anyone told Florida that Idaho will be FCS next year? Florida has Charleston Southern scheduled as well, and they can only count one of them. Assuming Florida wins of course.

I didn't catch that! As for money, we will be paid for our trip at the FBS level ($1.2million) for all of our games through the next five years. We start the 2019 season with PSU Nittany Lions.

[JayJ79]

I didn't catch that! As for money, we will be paid for our trip at the FBS level ($1.2million) for all of our games through the next five years. We start the 2019 season with PSU Nittany Lions.

That really surprises me. Games against FCS teams have limited countability toward bowl eligibility (i.e. only one such win per season), which is the only difference between games against low-level FBS opponents and mid-upper FCS opponents, and thus why the FBS teams get paid more. So why would Idaho still get paid the higher amount?
Unless it was purely a matter of the contracts not including a clause to cover dropping down a subdivision since it hasn't happened before. Or maybe an exemption has been made to allow for wins over Idaho to count toward bowl eligibility for the first few seasons?

[ursus arctos horribilis]

That really surprises me. Games against FCS teams have limited countability toward bowl eligibility (i.e. only one such win per season), which is the only difference between games against low-level FBS opponents and mid-upper FCS opponents, and thus why the FBS teams get paid more. So why would Idaho still get paid the higher amount?
Unless it was purely a matter of the contracts not including a clause to cover dropping down a subdivision since it hasn't happened before. Or maybe an exemption has been made to allow for wins over Idaho to count toward bowl eligibility for the first few seasons?

Some teams took the exit and some teams said they would keep it as is with the money and didn't feel like renegotiating on it from the information that came out at the time of the decision. Once what was already scheduled and retained then it will go back in line with the rest of FCS.

[VandalBasher]

Some teams took the exit and some teams said they would keep it as is with the money and didn't feel like renegotiating on it from the information that came out at the time of the decision. Once what was already scheduled and retained then it will go back in line with the rest of FCS.

It appears quite a few teams still stuck with our contracts for upcoming games.

IDAHO FOOTBALL SCHEDULES

FUTURE NON-CONFERENCE OPPONENTS

2018 (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-18/2018-idaho-vandals-football-schedule.php)



09/01 - at Fresno State (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/mtn-west/fresno-state-bulldogs.php)
11/17 - at Florida (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/sec/florida-gators.php)


2019 (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-19/2019-idaho-vandals-football-schedule.php)



08/31 - at Penn State (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-ten/penn-state-nittany-lions.php)
09/14 - at Wyoming (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/mtn-west/wyoming-cowboys.php)


2020 (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-20/2020-idaho-vandals-football-schedule.php)



09/12 - at Temple (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/aac/temple-owls.php)
09/19 - at Washington State (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/pac-10/washington-state-cougars.php)


2021



09/11 - at Indiana (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-ten/indiana-hoosiers.php)
09/18 - at Oregon State (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/pac-10/oregon-state-beavers.php)


2022



09/17 - at Indiana (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-ten/indiana-hoosiers.php)
TBA - at Old Dominion (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/conf-usa/old-dominion-monarchs.php)


2023



09/09 - at Northern Illinois (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/mid-amer/northern-illinois-huskies.php)

[kalm]

Well that is the part is sort of murky now. They count a little bit apparently but we just don't know how much or at least didn't last I heard.

FWIW I'm in the don't count em' crowd as well.

If the Griz get to count Savannah State we should get to count Western Oregon. xcoffeex

[VandalBasher]

If the Griz get to count Savannah State we should get to count Western Oregon. xcoffeex

I just looked at the 2017 schedules and results for both teams. I can see your point.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

If the Griz get to count Savannah State we should get to count Western Oregon. xcoffeex

Or you should quit whining about not being us once in a while. We didn't whine about those rules even though we know full well that a lot of D2's are as good as a lot of the lower level FCS teams. Doesn't change the don't count em' stance but it's not something I give too much of a crap about as it is.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

It appears quite a few teams still stuck with our contracts for upcoming games.

IDAHO FOOTBALL SCHEDULES

FUTURE NON-CONFERENCE OPPONENTS

2018 (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-18/2018-idaho-vandals-football-schedule.php)



09/01 - at Fresno State (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/mtn-west/fresno-state-bulldogs.php)
11/17 - at Florida (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/sec/florida-gators.php)


2019 (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-19/2019-idaho-vandals-football-schedule.php)



08/31 - at Penn State (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-ten/penn-state-nittany-lions.php)
09/14 - at Wyoming (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/mtn-west/wyoming-cowboys.php)


2020 (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-20/2020-idaho-vandals-football-schedule.php)



09/12 - at Temple (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/aac/temple-owls.php)
09/19 - at Washington State (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/pac-10/washington-state-cougars.php)


2021



09/11 - at Indiana (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-ten/indiana-hoosiers.php)
09/18 - at Oregon State (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/pac-10/oregon-state-beavers.php)


2022



09/17 - at Indiana (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-ten/indiana-hoosiers.php)
TBA - at Old Dominion (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/conf-usa/old-dominion-monarchs.php)


2023



09/09 - at Northern Illinois (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/mid-amer/northern-illinois-huskies.php)



Yes, some dropped, some stayed. I can't remember how full it was of non conference teams from before but I think you lost about 1/2 of them did't you?

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I just looked at the 2017 schedules and results for both teams. I can see your point.

That would be fine in a vacuum if UM hadn't had lots of CWU and other D2 games that we didn't count in the past and then have asshats like kalm bitch about the fact that we had those games. He whines about a lot of things like this.

UM was bad, EWU was bad, that is really all there is to it.

[RootinFerDukes]

Has anyone told Florida that Idaho will be FCS next year? Florida has Charleston Southern scheduled as well, and they can only count one of them. Assuming Florida wins of course.

If they can't win 7 games with two FCS, they don't deserve to go to a bowl game anyways.

[RootinFerDukes]

That really surprises me. Games against FCS teams have limited countability toward bowl eligibility (i.e. only one such win per season), which is the only difference between games against low-level FBS opponents and mid-upper FCS opponents, and thus why the FBS teams get paid more. So why would Idaho still get paid the higher amount?
Unless it was purely a matter of the contracts not including a clause to cover dropping down a subdivision since it hasn't happened before. Or maybe an exemption has been made to allow for wins over Idaho to count toward bowl eligibility for the first few seasons?

I'm sure there's a lack of a clause in the scheduling contract that has to do with dropping a division or subdivision prior to the schedule date of games. It would cost them more to buy out the game too than to pay the 1.2M so they just have to go with the cheapest option unless they really want to eat some money. Either way, Idaho gets some much needed cash for their athletic department.

I would bet that almost any competent FBS athletic director is going to make sure they put in subdivision demotion language in their contracts moving forward, payout dropping X%, etc.

[kalm]

That would be fine in a vacuum if UM hadn't had lots of CWU and other D2 games that we didn't count in the past and then have asshats like kalm bitch about the fact that we had those games. He whines about a lot of things like this.

UM was bad, EWU was bad, that is really all there is to it.

Whine? It's full on jealousy, brother! xlolx

We have an open date to fill this season and I would love nothing more than to bring in a SWAC or MEAC, etc. I would be shocked if we did because we can't guarantee the money. WGS and your attendance are huge competitive advantages in scheduling that you deserve to take full advantage of.

This beef goes back years (it's not just about last season or EWU and Montana) and could easily be leveled against a bunch of schools on the east coast (looking at you CAA and SoCon). I just picked you and us because it was fresh in my memory and I wanted to poke the bear. :D

My point: Take full advantage of favorable scheduling against weak FCS schools, but don't bitch when you get called out for it in poll or bracket threads as though there's a huge difference between Colorado School of Mines and Campbell (just an example, not accusing you of this Ursus)

This applies to the committee as well. Like Lance pointed out on the Wedge, the SRS literally rates a win vs. North Dakota State the same as a win vs. Lamar.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Whine? It's full on jealousy, brother! xlolx

We have an open date to fill this season and I would love nothing more than to bring in a SWAC or MEAC, etc. I would be shocked if we did because we can't guarantee the money. WGS and your attendance are huge competitive advantages in scheduling that you deserve to take full advantage of.

This beef goes back years (it's not just about last season or EWU and Montana) and could easily be leveled against a bunch of schools on the east coast (looking at you CAA and SoCon). I just picked you and us because it was fresh in my memory and I wanted to poke the bear. :D

My point: Take full advantage of favorable scheduling against weak FCS schools, but don't bitch when you get called out for it in poll or bracket threads as though there's a huge difference between Colorado School of Mines and Campbell (just an example, not accusing you of this Ursus)

This applies to the committee as well. Like Lance pointed out on the Wedge, the SRS literally rates a win vs. North Dakota State the same as a win vs. Lamar.

Alright, I don't disagree with any of that. I thought you might be dbacking this thing a bit. xlolx

[VandalBasher]

All I will say is this has been damn good discussion on Vandal Football.

I will probably attend 2 x away games (FSU or UC Davis, and EWU) and 2 x home games (Portland St. and Montana).

[Twentysix]

NDSU vs Idaho in the natty would be interesting. Dream big vandals!

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[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Whine? It's full on jealousy, brother! xlolx

We have an open date to fill this season and I would love nothing more than to bring in a SWAC or MEAC, etc. I would be shocked if we did because we can't guarantee the money. WGS and your attendance are huge competitive advantages in scheduling that you deserve to take full advantage of.

This beef goes back years (it's not just about last season or EWU and Montana) and could easily be leveled against a bunch of schools on the east coast (looking at you CAA and SoCon). I just picked you and us because it was fresh in my memory and I wanted to poke the bear. :D

My point: Take full advantage of favorable scheduling against weak FCS schools, but don't bitch when you get called out for it in poll or bracket threads as though there's a huge difference between Colorado School of Mines and Campbell (just an example, not accusing you of this Ursus)

This applies to the committee as well. Like Lance pointed out on the Wedge, the SRS literally rates a win vs. North Dakota State the same as a win vs. Lamar.He said stop whining........ xcoffeex

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[VandalBasher]

NDSU vs Idaho in the natty would be interesting. Dream big vandals!

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26! We will simply start expectations with a winning season. 6-5 (5-3) is a reasonable start. But, I like your style.

[dbackjon]

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-18/2018-idaho-vandals-football-schedule.php

We have SUU and UND on the schedule. For our first year back, I would have preferred to have Weber and NAU due to our legacy games of the 80's and 90's. I would have liked a game against SAC St. or Cal Poly. But, I plan to make the UC Davis game.

Idaho still has to add one more game to the schedule in September. Overall, this is a solid line up.

Go Vandals


It would have been nice to have a game against you first year. We get you in Flagstaff in 2019

[dgtw]

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-18/2018-idaho-vandals-football-schedule.php

We have SUU and UND on the schedule. For our first year back, I would have preferred to have Weber and NAU due to our legacy games of the 80's and 90's. I would have liked a game against SAC St. or Cal Poly. But, I plan to make the UC Davis game.

Idaho still has to add one more game to the schedule in September. Overall, this is a solid line up.

Go Vandals

Call Jax State about a home/home. We need a game in early September.


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[JALMOND]

I didn't catch that! As for money, we will be paid for our trip at the FBS level ($1.2million) for all of our games through the next five years. We start the 2019 season with PSU Nittany Lions.

Welcome, but...

You would be wise to note there is only one PSU around here and it isn't Penn State.xlolxxnodx

[VandalBasher]

I look forward to the games in Portland since the drive will be the closest from Seattle. I am certain Vandal fans will travel well to "PSU."

[ST_Lawson]

Welcome, but...

You would be wise to note there is only one PSU around here and it isn't Penn State.xlolxxnodx

Gorillas?

[VandalBasher]

Pittsburg State used to have some good football at their level. Not the PSU you are looking for,

[RootinFerDukes]

Vandal, what’s the sense from your fans about the move to the big sky? Are most threatening to stop caring?

[Vandal03]

Vandal, what’s the sense from your fans about the move to the big sky? Are most threatening to stop caring?

Most fans who regularly post on the Vandal forum at 24/7 are strongly against the move. Most fans who I know in real life are excited and plan to attend more games. The fans who are excited were sick of watching an overmatched Vandal football team lose games and are excited to be playing BSC teams.

[RootinFerDukes]

Most fans who regularly post on the Vandal forum at 24/7 are strongly against the move. Most fans who I know in real life are excited and plan to attend more games. The fans who are excited were sick of watching an overmatched Vandal football team lose games and are excited to be playing BSC teams.

Yeah. As long as you're winning at a more frequent rate then you had been over the past 20 years, then it'll quickly be forgotten by the overwhelming majority of Vandals fans. Regional rivals you care about, some of whom are well attended too (i.e. the two montana schools at least). More winnable games, although you'd be kidding yourself to think that Idaho would do better than .500 immediately. It'll be a progression and require extensive recruiting and rebuilding.

When the wins come more often, more fans will show up in Moscow for games. Then an environment develops. Once that happens, you'll not miss the years of FBS obscurity. That's just my opinion.

Playoff football is far more meaningful to watch then a bowl game with no real winner. The win or go home nature of a playoff game adds to the suspense and is entertaining football.

[VandalBasher]

I agree with Vandal03. We really wanted this experiment to come through. But, the decision has been made. I do look forward to the renewed rivalry with the Montana schools, ISU and EWU.

As for first year record, we will see. Even with a 2017 4-8 finish in the Sun Belt would have put the Vandals around midway in the Big Sky according to Sagarin and Massey ratings.

[RootinFerDukes]

I don't know if I'd rely heavily on Sagarin or Massey as a clear cut way to determine where you'd fall. So many factors have changed from one season to the next and those rankings are a fun reference for SOME idea of where teams stand, but you can also criticize it pretty easily.

You'll be playing with fewer scholarships, 63 maximum. The Big Sky has some really bad teams, some winless and 1 win teams last year. Their top 4 or 5 are pretty solid though and will be anything but pushovers. The past few seasons have shown the BSC is heavy on offense but as a result, not so strong on defense, weber state being the lone exception.

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Whine? It's full on jealousy, brother! xlolx

We have an open date to fill this season and I would love nothing more than to bring in a SWAC or MEAC, etc. I would be shocked if we did because we can't guarantee the money. WGS and your attendance are huge competitive advantages in scheduling that you deserve to take full advantage of.

This beef goes back years (it's not just about last season or EWU and Montana) and could easily be leveled against a bunch of schools on the east coast (looking at you CAA and SoCon). I just picked you and us because it was fresh in my memory and I wanted to poke the bear. :D

My point: Take full advantage of favorable scheduling against weak FCS schools, but don't bitch when you get called out for it in poll or bracket threads as though there's a huge difference between Colorado School of Mines and Campbell (just an example, not accusing you of this Ursus)

This applies to the committee as well. Like Lance pointed out on the Wedge, the SRS literally rates a win vs. North Dakota State the same as a win vs. Lamar.


Why dont you apply for the new AD position at your school and do something about it?

[VandalBasher]

Idaho has just added Western New Mexico University to our schedule on September 8th. I can still see the Vandals going 6-5 even with Fresno and Florida on the schedule.

[DCWIU11]

Idaho has just added Western New Mexico University to our schedule on September 8th. I can still see the Vandals going 6-5 even with Fresno and Florida on the schedule.

Western New Mexico FCS? or D2?

[ST_Lawson]

Western New Mexico FCS? or D2?

I know they ain't FCS and I'm pretty sure that's not a FBS team.


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[VandalBasher]

Conference affiliations[edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Western_New_Mexico_University&action=edit&section=4)]Western New Mexico is a member of the NCAA Division II (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_II) Lone Star Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_Star_Conference), which they joined during the 2016–17 season.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_New_Mexico_University#cite_note-2) Prior to joining the Lone Star Conference, Western New Mexico competed as a member of the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Mountain_Athletic_Conference) (RMAC), which they competed from 1967 to 1990, and 2006 to 2016. Prior re-joining the RMAC, WNMU also competed as an NCAA D-II Independent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_II_independent_schools) from 1990 to 1998, and the Pacific West Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_West_Conference) from 1998 to 2005, and later the Heartland Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Conference) during the 2005–06 season.

[PantherRob82]

I’m going to go ahead and write the Vandals out of the playoffs unless they win an FBS game. Starting the season with two FBS games assumes as losses and a game that essentially doesn’t count is not a winning schedule formula. We’ve seen some other teams do this recently. I think Portland State was one of them.

I'm a little surprised we didn’t end up with a home and home with you guys, but I’m guessing we couldn’t agree on who would be home this year.

[JayJ79]

I’m going to go ahead and write the Vandals out of the playoffs unless they win an FBS game. Starting the season with two FBS games assumes as losses and a game that essentially doesn’t count is not a winning schedule formula. We’ve seen some other teams do this recently. I think Portland State was one of them.

UNI did it back in 2012 (Wisconsin, Iowa, and D2 Central State). Though that isn't exactly recent.
and they went 5-6 that year, so obviously didn't make the playoffs.

[clenz]

UNI did it back in 2012 (Wisconsin, Iowa, and D2 Central State). Though that isn't exactly recent.
and they went 5-6 that year, so obviously didn't make the playoffs.

The D2 wasn’t initially on the schedule. The D2 popped up because Savannah State has Florida State buy the UNI game out and didn’t tell UNI until like April and the D2 was the only option left.

The Wisconsin game was a Southern Utah game as a return of a H/H but in fall 2011 Wisconsin bought that game out and paid UNI for it

2012 was a jacked up year for many reasons for UNI.


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[VandalBasher]

I’m going to go ahead and write the Vandals out of the playoffs unless they win an FBS game. Starting the season with two FBS games assumes as losses and a game that essentially doesn’t count is not a winning schedule formula. We’ve seen some other teams do this recently. I think Portland State was one of them.

I'm a little surprised we didn’t end up with a home and home with you guys, but I’m guessing we couldn’t agree on who would be home this year.

As you can see from my previous posts, I have stated that it is my prediction that the Vandals would finish the season at 6-5 overall with a conference record of 5-3. This isn't a formula for making the playoffs. But, most Idaho fans would be content with this record. I have stated, though, we should be ELIGIBLE for the payoffs this year due to scholarship reduction and should this record be more like 8-3 or 9-2.

[RootinFerDukes]

I’m going to go ahead and write the Vandals out of the playoffs unless they win an FBS game. Starting the season with two FBS games assumes as losses and a game that essentially doesn’t count is not a winning schedule formula. We’ve seen some other teams do this recently. I think Portland State was one of them.

I'm a little surprised we didn’t end up with a home and home with you guys, but I’m guessing we couldn’t agree on who would be home this year.

They're filled up with their remaining FBS OOC games they have through the early 2020s. Don't expect them to schedule anything other than an FCS cupake or D2 for a one and done home game for the next half a decade while they finish out their contracted FBS games. They'll have two a season for awhile.

[VandalBasher]

They're filled up with their remaining FBS OOC games they have through the early 2020s. Don't expect them to schedule anything other than an FCS cupake or D2 for a one and done home game for the next half a decade while they finish out their contracted FBS games. They'll have two a season for awhile.

Yup. We will have a FIVE game home schedule for the next four years against TWO FBS teams per year.

[bonarae]

Question: Is Idaho ready to schedule an OOC with an Ivy League team given the latter's strict OOC scheduling pattern (Weeks 1-5 for the Ivies; the OOC weekends vary per school, the equivalent of Weeks 3 or 4 to 7 or 8 for the rest of the FCS)?

We badly need some western exposure outside of the PFL. Just sayin'.

[VandalBasher]

These would definitely be interesting matchups. Our institution prides itself as an educational institution before an athletic institution.

[VandalBasher]

Because we are playing two FBS teams a year for the near future, it is difficult to get teams to come in for just one game at Idaho. Therefore, we have to accept having Western New Mexico, and such as our additional OOC game.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Because we are playing two FBS teams a year for the near future, it is difficult to get teams to come in for just one game at Idaho. Therefore, we have to accept having Western New Mexico, and such as our additional OOC game.

Absolutely and it is really the only way you guys can do things at this point and since it is good money from the current FBS teams it would be foolish not to do it that way. Will be good to see once it shakes out or a possible FBS game buyout on you guys what the possible home and homes will be but it is likely it will be MVFC and very rarely SLC with their current conference 9 gmae setups.

[ST_Lawson]

Absolutely and it is really the only way you guys can do things at this point and since it is good money from the current FBS teams it would be foolish not to do it that way. Will be good to see once it shakes out or a possible FBS game buyout on you guys what the possible home and homes will be but it is likely it will be MVFC and very rarely SLC with their current conference 9 gmae setups.

That's my thought too...it's a weird situation right now and it's going to take a few years to work out from all the existing scheduled games (and you might as well do what you can to keep the $ games around...invest it back into the program and it'll help in the long run). I don't blame them for having to throw in a DII every now and then to make things work until they can get "settled". Hell, we almost had to play an NAIA team last season and Illinois State still has that same team on their schedule for next year (as of last time I checked).

[VandalBasher]

Priority 1
Priority 2
Priority 3
Priority 4



EWU/UM/MSU/PSU/ISU
Weber/NAU
SAC/UCD/CP
SUU/UNC/*UND


2018
5
0
1
2


2019
3 (UM/PSU/ISU)
2
2
1



The 2018 schedule is pretty balanced with the 2019.

We would prefer to play Portland St., Eastern, Idaho St. and Montana and Montana St. every year. But, to have Weber and NAU as alternates for 2019 is acceptable.

[Red & Black]

6-5 in the Big Sky isn’t getting you in.


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Neither will 7-4, apparently.

[Tuna85]

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-18/2018-idaho-vandals-football-schedule.php

We have SUU and UND on the schedule. For our first year back, I would have preferred to have Weber and NAU due to our legacy games of the 80's and 90's. I would have liked a game against SAC St. or Cal Poly. But, I plan to make the UC Davis game.

Idaho still has to add one more game to the schedule in September. Overall, this is a solid line up.

Go Vandals

Coming back to FCS, based on geography, looks to be a good thing. You sure won't lack for competitive football! Not having to wait for playoff eligibility is great. My team, North Alabama, is coming from the other direction; D2 to FCS. We have to wait awhile to be able to compete in playoffs which, while I understand why, is no fun. I reckon good competition will have to make up for it and we do have SUU and NDSU, on the road, in 2018. Best of luck to your Vandals.

[VandalBasher]

Coming back to FCS, based on geography, looks to be a good thing. You sure won't lack for competitive football! Not having to wait for playoff eligibility is great. My team, North Alabama, is coming from the other direction; D2 to FCS. We have to wait awhile to be able to compete in playoffs which, while I understand why, is no fun. I reckon good competition will have to make up for it and we do have SUU and NDSU, on the road, in 2018. Best of luck to your Vandals.

Excellent post, Tuna85. As an old Soldier that has spent lots of time throughout the South, I would love for the Vandals to begin a home and home with teams from Alabama, Georgia and Florida.

[Tuna85]

Excellent post, Tuna85. As an old Soldier that has spent lots of time throughout the South, I would love for the Vandals to begin a home and home with teams from Alabama, Georgia and Florida.

I hope you get your wish. I know travel can become an obstacle but a good home and home cross country on occasion would be a fun trip. Reckon we will get our travel in this year...looks like around 5000 miles. Hope a home and home with you folks can happen in the near future.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Hell Tuna, it's almost like you would be a BSC team with that travel. xlolx

Welcome to AGS btw. Gald to have you.

[Tuna85]

Hell Tuna, it's almost like you would be a BSC team with that travel. xlolx

Welcome to AGS btw. Gald to have you.

Well, I reckon you have a good point there. This year might could be considered practice for next year when we become a Big South football member. Looking forward to it...travel and all. The true road warrior, in the BSC, would have to be Monmouth. Playoff aside, they had a pretty good year this time.

Thanks for the welcome. Hope that more BSC chatter will develop as time goes by and rivalries develop.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Well, I reckon you have a good point there. This year might could be considered practice for next year when we become a Big South football member. Looking forward to it...travel and all. The true road warrior, in the BSC, would have to be Monmouth. Playoff aside, they had a pretty good year this time.

Thanks for the welcome. Hope that more BSC chatter will develop as time goes by and rivalries develop.

Just a definition adjustment for you though my man. BSC = Big Sky Conference

I suppose we could start doing an acronym thing like the MVFC boys and girls do for the ISU's though and make is BSCss or even BSOC but I think most usually just type out the Big South to manage the confusion.

You are correct on the assertions though. That league is taking steps forward the last 5 yrs. for sure and it is getting pretty dang good. It is gona be tough for sure.xthumbsupx

Anyway, back to Vandal Schedule.

[VandalBasher]

I got confused in this as well. We had to do the "differentiation" with ASU (Appy St. and Arkie St.) and GSU (Georgia Southern and Georgia State). Even Texas State wanted to be acronized as TxSt to prevent confusion with Texas Southern.

[RootinFerDukes]

Coming back to FCS, based on geography, looks to be a good thing. You sure won't lack for competitive football! Not having to wait for playoff eligibility is great. My team, North Alabama, is coming from the other direction; D2 to FCS. We have to wait awhile to be able to compete in playoffs which, while I understand why, is no fun. I reckon good competition will have to make up for it and we do have SUU and NDSU, on the road, in 2018. Best of luck to your Vandals.

Based on the 5-5 D2 record UNA just had last year, you wouldn't have been anywhere close to the playoffs in 2018. Also take into account that your strength of schedule and no conference affiliation isn't particular strong. You play 5 non-FCS programs. Two teams who made the playoffs in 2017 (SUU and NDSU).
The Big South isn't anything special from a SOS standpoint, but it should bring a bit more to the table than the independent schedule UNA has in 2017.

Focus on winning and adjusting to the higher level of play, bringing on more scholarship players, etc.

[Tuna85]

Based on the 5-5 D2 record UNA just had last year, you wouldn't have been anywhere close to the playoffs in 2018. Also take into account that your strength of schedule and no conference affiliation isn't particular strong. You play 5 non-FCS programs. Two teams who made the playoffs in 2017 (SUU and NDSU).
The Big South isn't anything special from a SOS standpoint, but it should bring a bit more to the table than the independent schedule UNA has in 2017.

Focus on winning and adjusting to the higher level of play, bringing on more scholarship players, etc.

I like to look at last year as an aberration. Our defense was spectacular but could not hold up due to our lack of offensive prowess. Our lack of offensive prowess was due to the loss of our #1 QB in game one (a 1 point loss to TA&M Commerce - the D2 national champs) shortly to be followed by the loss of our #2 QB only to be followed by the loss of #3 QB. I believe we ended up with a WR as QB.
We played 10 teams. 6 made the D2 Playoffs with 2 playing in the finals. One of our D2 games will be against last year's runner up. They were the one team that I would say handled us last year

Not sure how 2018 schedule was made. If I had to guess, we probably had difficulty in scheduling FCS games because of our past success in D2. Pretty sure UNA will try to schedule up based on taking on NDSU and SUU in our first year. I see we have Montana in 2019.
Anyway we will see what comes and I think will do our best.

Back to the thread, I see Portland State is a Vandal opponent. We played them back in the early 90's. Just getting into the swing of FCS but this looks like it could be a good matchup.

[Tuna85]

Just a definition adjustment for you though my man. BSC = Big Sky Conference

I suppose we could start doing an acronym thing like the MVFC boys and girls do for the ISU's though and make is BSCss or even BSOC but I think most usually just type out the Big South to manage the confusion.

You are correct on the assertions though. That league is taking steps forward the last 5 yrs. for sure and it is getting pretty dang good. It is gona be tough for sure.xthumbsupx

Anyway, back to Vandal Schedule.

Thanks for the heads up on how to refer to the Big South and Big Sky. Still learning and appreciate the patience.

[Tuna85]

I got confused in this as well. We had to do the "differentiation" with ASU (Appy St. and Arkie St.) and GSU (Georgia Southern and Georgia State). Even Texas State wanted to be acronized as TxSt to prevent confusion with Texas Southern.

I've seen some NAU and UNA confusion already. Reckon it'll all settle out in the wash.

[cx500d]

Just a definition adjustment for you though my man. BSC = Big Sky Conference

I suppose we could start doing an acronym thing like the MVFC boys and girls do for the ISU's though and make is BSCss or even BSOC but I think most usually just type out the Big South to manage the confusion.

You are correct on the assertions though. That league is taking steps forward the last 5 yrs. for sure and it is getting pretty dang good. It is gona be tough for sure.xthumbsupx

Anyway, back to Vandal Schedule.

How about just calling them the BS conference, or BS for short?


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[Tuna85]

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Well, that would be the path of least resistance. Studying on it though, I figure like you probably figure, BS could be interpreted many different ways. Methinks I will stick with Big South and look toward a stronger conference going forward. Besides, the more letters the more I can work on my hunt and peck skills.

[VandalBasher]

My wife is an alum of Campbell University. I would love to see the Vandals play the Camels.

[RootinFerDukes]

Oh wow, 5-5 is an amazing record when you’re down to your 4th string qb who isn’t even really a qb.

[Tuna85]

My wife is an alum of Campbell University. I would love to see the Vandals play the Camels.

I have a young friend who graduated from Campbell and they are on UNA' s schedule this year. Looking forward to the game against a future Big South stablemate. A Camel-Vandal game would be interesting. Hopefully, y'all have a strong marriage that can manage. Here in the state of Alabama we have many a house divided.

[Tuna85]

Oh wow, 5-5 is an amazing record when you’re down to your 4th string qb who isn’t even really a qb.

Normally I would say my team did the best they could with the hand they were dealt. The one point loss in the first game was accompanied by 4 or 5 missed field goals and an unnecessary safety on our part. So, we had our chances to do better than 5-5.
Your earlier post touched on one thing that will be key going forward and that is recruiting. Lots of competition for the available talent at the FCS/FBS level in this part of the country. May be a learning curve.

[Go Green]

Not exactly Princeton beating out Alabama for a QB, but Dartmouth just picked up QB Jack Alexander, whose best scholarship offer was from Idaho.

The addition of Alexander gives what appears to be a very strong incoming class for Dartmouth a quarterback. We had guy decommit to go to Air Force last month.

[VandalBasher]

Not exactly Princeton beating out Alabama for a QB, but Dartmouth just picked up QB Jack Alexander, whose best scholarship offer was from Idaho.

The addition of Alexander gives what appears to be a very strong incoming class for Dartmouth a quarterback. We had guy decommit to go to Air Force last month.

Best of luck to Dartmouth. Idaho would love to begin games against Ivy League teams. I think we are ok at QB. Our recruiting has been somewhat solid in this area with Colton Richardson as the forerunner.

This is what our current roster looks like for QBs going into next year:


5
Dylan Lemle (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4245278/dylan-lemle)
QB
2-Jun
190
FR
Los Angeles, CA


4
Mason Petrino (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4048933/mason-petrino)
QB
11-May
173
SO
Pullman, WA


19
Colton Richardson (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4245281/colton-richardson)
QB
4-Jun
230
FR
Lewiston, ID


12
AJ Woodin (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/3139416/aj-woodin)
QB
10-May
192
JR
Beaverton, OR



Here is our lone QB recruit from the 2018 class:


Nikhil Nayar (http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/232001/nikhil-nayar)
Video | Scouts Report (http://insider.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/evaluation/_/id/232001/nikhil-nayar)


QB-PP
Mercer Island, WA
Mercer Island High School
6'3''
210





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[RootinFerDukes]

One thing you’ll learn is that Ivy League schools are in their own little bubble in FCS. They schedule patriot league teams and in-state caa teams (sometimes). That’s about it.
I know JMU has recently reached out to at least one ivy to schedule a series but they wouldn’t bite for some reason.

[VandalBasher]

Brown will be flying out to Cal Poly this year. I just think it would be a very unique series to begin with these schools.

[RootinFerDukes]

Brown will be flying out to Cal Poly this year. I just think it would be a very unique series to begin with these schools.

I believe cal poly is pretty well ranked academically. They feel more inclined to schedule who they see as “academic peers” and who may also present a competitive game. By getting taken to the woodshed by high end fcs teams, ivy schools can’t try to act like they’re still playing the old I-A ball they used to.
Ivy schools don’t compete in the FCS playoffs and use the “student athlete academic focus” as the excuse. Meanwhile their other D1 programs still compete in postseason tournaments.

Edit: upon further research, cal poly isn’t that high ranking at all. A bit surprised.
11th ranked west regional university. Not bad but I was expecting a top 100 National University.
JMU is 7th south regional by comparison.

[VandalBasher]

Not too shabby for a public institution.
Go Vandals.


https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/university-of-idaho-1626
US NEWS- IDAHO: 171 NATIONAL RANKING

https://www.forbes.com/colleges/university-of-idaho/
Forbes Lists#477 Top Colleges (https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/list/)


#165 in Public Colleges
#196 in Research Universities
#88 in the West

https://www.niche.com/colleges/university-of-idaho/rankings/
IDAHO- TOP PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES IN USA- #116

[clenz]

I believe cal poly is pretty well ranked academically. They feel more inclined to schedule who they see as “academic peers” and who may also present a competitive game. By getting taken to the woodshed by high end fcs teams, ivy schools can’t try to act like they’re still playing the old I-A ball they used to.
Ivy schools don’t compete in the FCS playoffs and use the “student athlete academic focus” as the excuse. Meanwhile their other D1 programs still compete in postseason tournaments.

Edit: upon further research, cal poly isn’t that high ranking at all. A bit surprised.
11th ranked west regional university. Not bad but I was expecting a top 100 National University.
JMU is 7th south regional by comparison.It seems the only time the an Ivy is willing to leave a 7 square mile radius of the NE is to go to Poly or San Diego.

Did a quick skim and here are the games outside of the NE (in-state CAA, Patriot, NEC, etc. games)
2017: None...Princeton hosted San Diego
2016: None...Brown hosted Stetson
2015: None...none hosted
2014: Penn @ Jacksonville Princeton @ San Diego
2013: Dartmouth @ Butler Yale @ Cal Poly
2012: None....Harvard hosted San Diego
2011: None...none hosted
2010: None...none hosted
2009: None...Princeton hosted The Citadel
2008: None...none hosted
2007: None...none hosted
2006: None...Yale hosted San Diego
2005: Yale @ San Diego...Penn hosted Duquesne, Princeton hosted San Diego
2004: Penn @ San Diego Princeton @ San Diego
2003: None...Penn hosted Duquesne

That's 7 road games outside of their natural footprint in 15 seasons. 15 years, 10 teams, that's roughly 160 road games OOC. That's just 4% of their games have required more than a very short bus ride.

Basically, unless you're a non-scholarship PFL team....a D3 mascaraing as a D1....and aren't in a 7 square mile radius of the Ivy footprint they won't play you. Period. Even for scholarship teams they pretty much only play Nova, UNH or Towson occasionally - though with the PL going scholarship they are now scholarship opponents.

It's been covered many times here, but it's done intentionally. It insulates them from the rest of the FCS. Allows them to maintain they are every bit as good - better - than others in the FCS without having to actually prove it.

[lucchesicourt]

Top public universities in the US:https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public

[bonarae]

It seems the only time the an Ivy is willing to leave a 7 square mile radius of the NE is to go to Poly or San Diego.

....

Basically, unless you're a non-scholarship PFL team....a D3 mascaraing as a D1....and aren't in a 7 square mile radius of the Ivy footprint they won't play you. Period. Even for scholarship teams they pretty much only play Nova, UNH or Towson occasionally - though with the PL going scholarship they are now scholarship opponents.

It's been covered many times here, but it's done intentionally. It insulates them from the rest of the FCS. Allows them to maintain they are every bit as good - better - than others in the FCS without having to actually prove it.

Unfortunately, this point regularly taken by fans like him is the main reason why I stepped out of my original all-Ivy focus to diversify my knowledge of the FCS; I now root for my cousins' alma maters (not that consistently great in football though) - ETSU, Albany and Stony Brook - besides Harvard.

I think that in 10-15 years they'll do a NESCAC type schedule (i.e. no OOC games), if the NCAA allows them. xsmhx xbawlingx

[Go Green]

They schedule patriot league teams and in-state caa teams (sometimes). That’s about it.

Now there, we've scheduled plenty of PFL teams as well!!

Dartmouth does have Army on the schedule in a few years. And Yale begins a series with Mercer next season. Princeton likewise plays someone out of the ordinary, but I'm blanking on exactly who...

[Go Green]

It seems the only time the an Ivy is willing to leave a 7 square mile radius of the NE is to go to Poly or San Diego.

.

Several Ivy teams have played in Florida (Stetson, Jacksonville). As I just mentioned, Yale plans to go to Georgia to play Mercer. Princeton went to Citadel a year before or after hosting them.

One can also debate whether Towson (Dartmouth), Georgetown (everyone) and W&M (Penn) is "the NE."

[clenz]

Several Ivy teams have played in Florida (Stetson, Jacksonville). As I just mentioned, Yale plans to go to Georgia to play Mercer. Princeton went to Citadel a year before or after hosting them.

One can also debate whether Towson (Dartmouth), Georgetown (everyone) and W&M (Penn) is "the NE."

Towson is north of Baltimore.
Georgetown is DC
W&M is you beat one to fight and even that is debatable.

No one doesn’t consider DC part of the Northeast

Of you don’t want to consider DC the northeast then my point about traveling 7 miles outside of the Northeast is correct. By car the south side of Towsons campus is less than a a half hour from the “southern border” of “the NE”

[clenz]

I literally laid out every single non NE road game played by the ivy since 2003. There’s 7 total between 10 teams in 15 years, which is roughly 160 OOC road games.

5 of the 7 were San Diego as part of a series. One was Florida and one was the Citadel


It’s also weird you let me get away with say Duquesne is a NE school yet they are in Pittsburgh...an hour from Youngstown Ohio.

609 miles from Dartmouths campus. But Georgetown at less than half (and on the eastern seaboard) that isn’t.

[Go Green]

Towson is north of Baltimore.
Georgetown is DC
W&M is you beat one to fight and even that is debatable.

No one doesn’t consider DC part of the Northeast

Of you don’t want to consider DC the northeast then my point about traveling 7 miles outside of the Northeast is correct. By car the south side of Towsons campus is less than a a half hour from the “southern border” of “the NE”

I think the disconnect here is whether you consider the "Mid-Atlantic" to be an area. If you're just going NE and SE, then I respect your opinion.

[IBleedYellow]

Well that is the part is sort of murky now. They count a little bit apparently but we just don't know how much or at least didn't last I heard.

FWIW I'm in the don't count em' crowd as well.

99% sure that NDSU administration complained about it one year and we got our way.

[Thumper 76]

NDSU complained.

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[IBleedYellow]

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Just like SDSU fans and foul calls.

[Silenoz]

Best of luck to Dartmouth. Idaho would love to begin games against Ivy League teams. I think we are ok at QB. Our recruiting has been somewhat solid in this area with Colton Richardson as the forerunner.

This is what our current roster looks like for QBs going into next year:


5
Dylan Lemle (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4245278/dylan-lemle)
QB
2-Jun
190
FR
Los Angeles, CA


4
Mason Petrino (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4048933/mason-petrino)
QB
11-May
173
SO
Pullman, WA


19
Colton Richardson (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4245281/colton-richardson)
QB
4-Jun
230
FR
Lewiston, ID


12
AJ Woodin (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/3139416/aj-woodin)
QB
10-May
192
JR
Beaverton, OR



Here is our lone QB recruit from the 2018 class:


Nikhil Nayar (http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/232001/nikhil-nayar)
Video | Scouts Report (http://insider.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/evaluation/_/id/232001/nikhil-nayar)
QB-PP
Mercer Island, WA
Mercer Island High School
6'3''
210

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Haven't seen them play, but I follow you guys quite a bit so I'm excited to see either Richardson or Petrino in action for different reasons lol. Mostly Petrino because of the outrage he generates with you guys.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Haven't seen them play, but I follow you guys quite a bit so I'm excited to see either Richardson or Petrino in action for different reasons lol. Mostly Petrino because of the outrage he generates with you guys.

In Helena back in the day there was that same sort of thing when Paul became the starting QB for Carroll College at a fairly young age starting for his dad Bob. Paul was an excellent option QB and it was one of the best periods of football Carroll College had ever had at that point and he of course followed his older brother as the starter in fairly short order. So Bob Sr. used both of his sons in a fairly short 7 or 8yr. span if I remember correctly.

If this is Paul's son then I can assure any and all Vandal fans that there probably won't be a person in the huddle that will know the game better than that kid and I don't know jack **** about him at all.

If it is nepotism they are bitching about they ought to probably STFU and see what the kid has to offer cuz it is rare that I've seen that the coaches kid doesn't make a phenomenal number of correct plays that you just think "wow" especially in that family. If he isn't good I'd be pretty shocked.

[Silenoz]

Well for now I will let them speak to such matters, and how he looked in 2017 when pressed into action. But if Mason is the starter next year, or sees time at QB, we'll get to witness for ourselves...

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...so we either get the 280 pound beast, or the 5'7" prodigal son. Either way I am excite!

[Thumper 76]

Just like SDSU fans and foul calls.

Coming from one of two fan bases that I’ve ever seen complain about foul calls before the game even starts.......xlolx xlolx xlolx


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[clenz]

Coming from one of two fan bases that I’ve ever seen complain about foul calls before the game even starts.......xlolx xlolx xlolx


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It was interesting to be in the FargoBarn for the MVSU game last year. To hear the vitriol against blatantly...I mean blatant....calls against NDSU when they were up 50 in the third was nothing short of breathtaking.

There was one NDSU run play where the OL jumped on the LB in the open field for a block, called for a hold. Boos were pouring down before the flag hit the apex of the throw.