San Diego @ North Dakota State

[Bisonator]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT8sIT4vBUQ

[TheKingpin28]

Let's do this!

[mmiller_34]

Way to break the mold and not create a poll.


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THERE IT IS.

[Bisonator]

Way to break the mold and not create a poll.


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THERE IT IS.
Patience sandbagger. :D

[mmiller_34]

Patience sandbagger. :D

Its going to be a long week. Gotta keep piling them high.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Whatever happens San Diego has represented themselves well. I kind of wish they could play a someone other than NDSU. I'd like to see how they would stack up against SHSU, Wofford, or SUU.

[katss07]

Whatever happens San Diego has represented themselves well. I kind of wish they could play a someone other than NDSU. I'd like to see how they would stack up against SHSU, Wofford, or SUU.

Any of those 3 teams would blow them out. Props to San Diego though for representing themselves well for a second straight season. Good win against NAU.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Any of those 3 teams would blow them out. Props to San Diego though for representing themselves well for a second straight season. Good win against NAU.

Wofford doesn't blow out anyone. SHSU's defense would give up points. SUU is another Big Sky team.

They beat a Big Sky team 41-10. I don't care who you are, to do that on the road is super impressive. SD really couldn't have kicked NAU's butt anymore. I think your underestimating SD's play along the lines and skill guys. Their WR's made balling plays....

[FargoBison]

I think they would have issues keeping pace with SHSU. They are very different team then NAU offensively. Wofford would wear on them for an entire game, it would be a different kind of grind that they probably aren't used to. I don't think either team would have a lot of troubles with them.

[Bison56]

Wofford doesn't blow out anyone. SHSU's defense would give up points. SUU is another Big Sky team.

They beat a Big Sky team 41-10. I don't care who you are, to do that on the road is super impressive. SD really couldn't have kicked NAU's butt anymore. I think your underestimating SD's play along the lines and skill guys. Their WR's made balling plays....

I don't know if you know this, but that guy is an FCS guru. He knows everything about every team.

[Scooter]

I'm looking forward to the USD game next week. Congratulations on a dominating win.

Seriously...WTF UNA offensive line?!?

[TheKingpin28]

I don't know if you know this, but that guy is an FCS guru. He knows everything about every team.

I thought that was woffordterrier19?

[bonarae]

Another blowout should I say? Or will this game be closer this time around? xchinscratchx

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[katss07]

I thought that was woffordterrier19?

Don’t argue with that statement. I know everything...

[cx500d]

Another blowout should I say? Or will this game be closer this time around? xchinscratchx

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Closer...Quite frankly I think last year's game was closer than the score would leave you to believe.

[katss07]

SD can score this season. Don’t only rely on a guy like Hodges. He was special, but they were kind of one dimensional. This year they can run and pass. MUCH more balanced. I would say the score will be something like 48-24 NDSU.

[Bison56]

SD can score this season. Don’t only rely on a guy like Hodges. He was special, but they were kind of one dimensional. This year they can run and pass. MUCH more balanced. I would say the score will be something like 48-24 NDSU.

That's a deep analysis.

[woffordgrad94]

Poor San Diego. This game really doesn’t even deserve a thread at all.

[katss07]

Poor San Diego. This game really doesn’t even deserve a thread at all.

It’s really to bad. They get rewarded for another big first round win with a trip to Fargo.

[katss07]

That's a deep analysis.
That was a quick prediction post on how I feel this game will end. Would you like me to go into further detail on the SD offense?

[malibudude]

Wofford doesn't blow out anyone. SHSU's defense would give up points. SUU is another Big Sky team.

They beat a Big Sky team 41-10. I don't care who you are, to do that on the road is super impressive. SD really couldn't have kicked NAU's butt anymore. I think your underestimating SD's play along the lines and skill guys. Their WR's made balling plays....

Poly sure as hell underestimated USD last year, they are a solid team. Still trying to get my head around the NAU game. I think NDSU wins but maybe not the best poll…how about NDSU covers by 17.5?

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Good win by San Diego. Going in and dismantling N Arizona at home is impressive.

As far as NDSU, San Diego does not match up well against the Bison. NDSU is nothing like N Arizona and they actually have a defense. NDSU's power running game will wear on the Toreros and this game will probably look like last year's game.

Defensively, NDSU is better than last year and I do not see USD consistently making plays against it. USD has had a nice year but it ends next Saturday.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Stack the box and make Stick beat you passing......playbook for many teams this year. Can USD do it?

[BisonBacker]

Stack the box and make Stick beat you passing......playbook for many teams this year. Can USD do it?

Nope

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Nope


Agree. This game will be a rout.

[BisonBacker]

But I wish we had their Tight End for 4 years of college ball. That kid will play on Sundays I think.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

NAU's OL was crap....I suspect NDSU's is just a wee bit better......xnodx

Weber and SUU are by far the best Big Fluff teams this year. Weber plays good defense and they looked good. Weber/SUU 2.0 should be a good one.

[Professor Chaos]

Poly sure as hell underestimated USD last year, they are a solid team. Still trying to get my head around the NAU game. I think NDSU wins but maybe not the best poll…how about NDSU covers by 17.5?
I'd be shocked if the line wasn't NDSU -20 or more. Not to say that I think it should be that but I think it will be that. I'd definitely bet on NDSU if it was -17.5 but I certainly think USD has the ability to cover that as well. If it was NDSU -24 I'd probably bet on USD to cover. I think it'll open at something like NDSU -28 (just by going off of Sagarin and Massey ratings).

As for the game itself USD needs to control the ball like they did against NAU to have a shot. NDSU is so much deeper they'll wear the USD defense down (like they did last year) unless USD's offense can sustain drives and put the ball in the end zone.

[POD Knows]

Stack the box and make Stick beat you passing......playbook for many teams this year. Can USD do it?
It was a weird game against them last year, I remember it seemed like USD did a nice job against the run but we somehow ended up averaging 10 yard a carry or something. I don't think this USD team is as good as last years but we will see. Their dismantling of NAU was epic though, complete beat down. USD's TE and the wide receiver Priest are the real deal.

[100%GRIZ]

Just hope NDSU players aren't as overconfident as everyone in this thread! Got a feeling USD is not going roll over & play dead in this one!

[SSOASS]

First time poster here and a San Diego alumni

Firstly, really proud of the program in general. There was a fear that when Harbaugh left, that would really be the end of a good run with him. But if anything, they are better now and bringing in better and better talent. Depth is an issue for sure, but the starting 11 on both sides of the ball range from solid to pretty damn good.

I could see last year written off as some kind of fluke, but the game yesterday was just domination ... surprisingly at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball and Martinez looks like he has a chance to be a really special RB over the next 3 years.

I do not have any allusions they will win next Saturday ... and I will be travelling and not have a chance to catch much of the game ... but I do think the selection committee should take note of 2 first round wins in a row and perhaps move San Diego a bit higher in the seeding next year, assuming they have a regular season similar to this year.

I am not saying a bye, but to the point where they are playing a 5,6,7,8 seed in the second round.

At a minimum, I think they have shown a PFL team in the playoffs is warranted

[Professor Chaos]

Just hope NDSU players aren't as overconfident as everyone in this thread! Got a feeling USD is not going roll over & play dead in this one!
Of course they won't. Only Big Sky teams like NAU do that.

[jsualumnus]

This game will not even be close. Bison by 3 touchdowns...

[FargoBison]

Just hope NDSU players aren't as overconfident as everyone in this thread! Got a feeling USD is not going roll over & play dead in this one!They didn't roll over last year and yet they lost 45-7. It is what it is.

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[NDSUtk]

Of course they won't. Only Big Sky teams like NAU do that.And they did it so well too!! From the first quarter on!

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[caribbeanhen]

worse game of the week, San Diego goes to Fargo again.... yuck

[PantherRob82]

worse game of the week, San Diego goes to Fargo again.... yuck

I don’t know, UNH@UCA might be bad.

[caribbeanhen]

I don’t know, UNH@UCA might be bad.

yep, UNH is like Daddy's Lil darling spoiled entitled fat girl in Willie Wonka.....

[ElCid]

Yeah this is pretty much of a screw job for SD. Thinking it may be a repeat. Maybe not as bad, but close to last year.

[Daytripper]

That's a deep analysis.

He's offering more than just the snide remarks that pour out of your keyboard.

[Bisonoline]

I think its going to be a good game.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

It was a weird game against them last year, I remember it seemed like USD did a nice job against the run but we somehow ended up averaging 10 yard a carry or something. I don't think this USD team is as good as last years but we will see. Their dismantling of NAU was epic though, complete beat down. USD's TE and the wide receiver Priest are the real deal.


Those two players were good and it will be fun to watch them on Saturday.

NAU's defense was a joke and nothing compared to the Bison's.

If this is not more than 3 scores I will be surprised.

[TennBison]

He's offering more than just the snide remarks that pour out of your keyboard.
You mean like the one you just gave.

[FargoBison]

Those two players were good and it will be fun to watch them on Saturday.

NAU's defense was a joke and nothing compared to the Bison's.

If this is not more than 3 scores I will be surprised.

Yeah, NDSU should win by 24+

I don't want to disrespect USD, with the limitations placed upon them they have a great program but they are just over matched against a team like NDSU.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Yeah, NDSU should win by 24+

I don't want to disrespect USD, with the limitations placed upon them they have a great program but they are just over matched against a team like NDSU.


Yes, they are a good Pioneer team that beats up on inferior teams in their league. They did a great job last night against a NAU team that had no business being in the playoff field. Kudos and respect to USD for going on the road and beating a Big Fluff team with 63 schollies. I'll give that a thumbs up....xthumbsupx

As for NDSU.....NDSU will roll this team. Yes, anything can happen in a game but USD is overmatched on both sides of the ball. NDSU's defense is nothing like the porous unit last night from NAU and should have no problem defending this team. USD might have a few nice drives but NDSU is too athletic to consistently move the ball and esp score against.

USD will probably handle the noise better this time around.

Klieman never runs the score up so it might look like a close game in the 4th but I fully expect a Bison blowout against this team.

[KPSUL]

yep, UNH is like Daddy's Lil darling spoiled entitled fat girl in Willie Wonka.....

Nobody thought this was funny the 4th, 5th or 6th time you posted it; but bring it over to the UNH @ UCA thread. No one wants to read your dribble even when it somehow relates to the thread, so spare the readers when it doesn't.

[Reign of Terrier]

I think NDSU will lead by 10 through 3 quarters and then Fargodome craziness comes in and they win by 24. Let's call it 38-14 for the Bizon

[Professor Chaos]

I think NDSU will lead by 10 through 3 quarters and then Fargodome craziness comes in and they win by 24. Let's call it 38-14 for the Bizon
I think your prediction is solid but I don't think it'll be the Fargodome craziness that'll allow the Bison to stretch it out in the 4th quarter/2nd half. It'll be the depth of a full scholarship FCS team wearing on a non-scholarship team (unless San Diego can manage to control the ball again like they did against NAU).

[ElCid]

First time poster here and a San Diego alumni



Welcome. SSOASS. Nice to have a Pioneer poster and San Diego one. Congrats on a couple great playoff performances these last 2 years. It would be nice if they didn't send you to Fargo, but it is what it is. Good luck.

[Reign of Terrier]

I think your prediction is solid but I don't think it'll be the Fargodome craziness that'll allow the Bison to stretch it out in the 4th quarter/2nd half. It'll be the depth of a full scholarship FCS team wearing on a non-scholarship team (unless San Diego can manage to control the ball again like they did against NAU).

I've passively watched NDSU scores in the playoffs in the past and the "intensely extends lead in the fourth quarter" is a common trope

[Professor Chaos]

I've passively watched NDSU scores in the playoffs in the past and the "intensely extends lead in the fourth quarter" is a common trope
That's been a theme ever since they started winning championships. I believe in 2013, which was their best team of this run, they only allowed 13 points in the 4th quarter throughout the entire 15 games of that season.

[Trapper..]

Yeah, NDSU should win by 24+

I don't want to disrespect USD, with the limitations placed upon them they have a great program but they are just over matched against a team like NDSU.

No disrespect taken, I also view the Bisons as 3 TD favs. The only limitations we have is that we can't recruit good football players that are lacking on the academic side of the ball. The players receive twice the amount of $$ in academic scholarships than the amount of a typical football scholarship at a state school. It's just hard to build depth using this method.


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[Scooter]

No disrespect taken, I also view the Bisons as 3 TD favs. The only limitations we have is that we can't recruit good football players that are lacking on the academic side of the ball. The players receive twice the amount of $$ in academic scholarships than the amount of a typical football scholarship at a state school. It's just hard to build depth using this method.


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This is exactly why USD is dangerous. Intelligent players when teamed with a good coach are always dangerous.
However, NDSU gets very talented players but often pass on ones that don't fit the program mold. Academics are a key part of the NDSU model and a big reason why they seem to make adjustments and pull away from teams. SDSU also is dangerous for this reason. Both of these MVFC teams have a very good RPI rating and are a huge factor in the success of these two schools. U of San Diego would be a tough game for a majority of the playoff field.

[Trapper..]

This is exactly why USD is dangerous. Intelligent players when teamed with a good coach are always dangerous.
However, NDSU gets very talented players but often pass on ones that don't fit the program mold. Academics are a key part of the NDSU model and a big reason why they seem to make adjustments and pull away from teams. SDSU also is dangerous for this reason. Both of these MVFC teams have a very good RPI rating and are a huge factor in the success of these two schools. U of San Diego would be a tough game for a majority of the playoff field.

A smart team that executes can hang in a game against a better team longer than they should be able to sometimes. Especially if they can sustain drives and make sure the stronger opponent is starting their drives at their own end of the field. I'm going to assume that NDSU has several players from your area that could easily play in the power 5 conferences if those schools recruited your area more heavily. And probably some guys that choose to stay their because it is a big time program. I wish I could make the game this weekend, I'd love to see the atmosphere there.


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[Trapper..]

Poly sure as hell underestimated USD last year, they are a solid team. Still trying to get my head around the NAU game. I think NDSU wins but maybe not the best poll…how about NDSU covers by 17.5?

NAU was out coached, simply schooled. SD players wanted it more.


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[Daytripper]

You mean like the one you just gave.

Yes. xeyebrowx

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

This is exactly why USD is dangerous. Intelligent players when teamed with a good coach are always dangerous.
However, NDSU gets very talented players but often pass on ones that don't fit the program mold. Academics are a key part of the NDSU model and a big reason why they seem to make adjustments and pull away from teams. SDSU also is dangerous for this reason. Both of these MVFC teams have a very good RPI rating and are a huge factor in the success of these two schools. U of San Diego would be a tough game for a majority of the playoff field.


For some of the field for sure. Top 8 or 12 would/will handle USD pretty easily IMO.

I think this game is going to be worse than last year IMO. The Bison offense is better and so is the defense. USD played a great game on Saturday but NAU played horrible to skew that result IMO.

Bison in a rout.

[Utgrizfan]

First time poster here and a San Diego alumni

Firstly, really proud of the program in general. There was a fear that when Harbaugh left, that would really be the end of a good run with him. But if anything, they are better now and bringing in better and better talent. Depth is an issue for sure, but the starting 11 on both sides of the ball range from solid to pretty damn good.

I could see last year written off as some kind of fluke, but the game yesterday was just domination ... surprisingly at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball and Martinez looks like he has a chance to be a really special RB over the next 3 years.

I do not have any allusions they will win next Saturday ... and I will be travelling and not have a chance to catch much of the game ... but I do think the selection committee should take note of 2 first round wins in a row and perhaps move San Diego a bit higher in the seeding next year, assuming they have a regular season similar to this year.

I am not saying a bye, but to the point where they are playing a 5,6,7,8 seed in the second round.

At a minimum, I think they have shown a PFL team in the playoffs is warranted

I would really like to see you guys join the Big Sky, personally I feel the move would benefit both parties. You would get lots of California rivals and less travel expenses and we could then schedule based on 2 Divisons rather then the rivals system currently in place:

NORTH:
-Montana, MSU, EWU, Idaho, ISU, UNC, PSU

SOUTH:
-Sac State, Cal Poly, UC-Davis, USD, NAU, SUU, WSU

[caribbeanhen]

Nobody thought this was funny the 4th, 5th or 6th time you posted it; but bring it over to the UNH @ UCA thread. No one wants to read your dribble even when it somehow relates to the thread, so spare the readers when it doesn't.

lighten up Marty, you'll be able to land another job next year

[POD Knows]

10 people picked USD in this game? Interesting.

[caribbeanhen]

San Diego has a very active Defense with some good players if not a great few, they really exposed Northern Arizona and that was surprising, but to pick San Diego over North Dakota State is just crazy, I'm just hoping they can stay in it until the second half, anyway if I remember, they played well early in the game last year in Fargo....very early...

anyway, those 10 picks are probably just anti Bison guys

[Bison56]

10 people picked USD in this game? Interesting.

Its called hate.

[POD Knows]

Its called hate.It is penis envy.

[Bison56]

It is penis envy.

Likely a small part of it.

[BNATION]

This will be ugly... 56-6, only that because the Bison are winded from breaking 70 yard runs...

[Winterborn]

My only thought to bring to this discussion is I hope the cheerleaders/cheer squad and some of the fans are good looking. I am tired of the typical Midwest prototype. xtwocentsxxtwocentsx

[97Torero]

I would really like to see you guys join the Big Sky, personally I feel the move would benefit both parties. You would get lots of California rivals and less travel expenses and we could then schedule based on 2 Divisons rather then the rivals system currently in place:

NORTH:
-Montana, MSU, EWU, Idaho, ISU, UNC, PSU

SOUTH:
-Sac State, Cal Poly, UC-Davis, USD, NAU, SUU, WSU

While i would love to see San Diego go full scholly and join the Big Sky, i just don't see it happening, even though it would mean growth in other sports as well. All other sports are in the WCC, so they'd be looking at football only memberships and I am not sure the Big Sky would even do that.

It would be nice to be able to go to away games without getting on an airplane. As it is, distance is the main reason some of my fellow alumni have passed two years in a row on the NDSU game. 24 hour drive or $700 airfare. Maybe we should just make plans next year for the 2nd round in Fargo. It will be an annual event.

[Professor Chaos]

Well, seems like a couple NDSU players decided to be boneheads during the bye week:

https://twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/935237428897513473

All of those guys were just depth at this point but two (Van Dellen and Engel) were redshirt freshman who were in line to contribute over the next few years. No details from Klieman beyond saying it was a violation of team rules. Must not have been very good to justify an immediate dismissal. Good for coach for dropping the hammer though. Hopefully it sends a message.

[CappinHard]

NDSU set as 26.5 favorites according to 5dimes, total at 47.5. NDSU should cover easy as long as they don't look past San Diego.

[POD Knows]

Well, seems like a couple NDSU players decided to be boneheads during the bye week:

https://twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/935237428897513473

All of those guys were just depth at this point but two (Van Dellen and Engel) were redshirt freshman who were in line to contribute over the next few years. No details from Klieman beyond saying it was a violation of team rules. Must not have been very good to justify an immediate dismissal. Good for coach for dropping the hammer though. Hopefully it sends a message.
Dismissal, like in gone forever?

[BisonBacker]

Dismissal, like in gone forever?


Like in "YES" "KAPUT" "FINISHED". Don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out done!

[Professor Chaos]

Dismissal, like in gone forever?
Yep. Gone from NDSU's football program forever at least.

[BisonBacker]

Like in off the roster already. NDSU didn't waste anytime in that!

[CappinHard]

Dismissal, like in gone forever?

https://media2.giphy.com/media/EkDhogNB3yo3C/giphy.gif

[NDSUtk]

Two more scholarships opened up for next year! Time to get another receiver!

Do they go to ISUr or Youngstown? That's the real question! Just joking, fans.

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[BisonBacker]

Dismissal, like in gone forever?

https://media.giphy.com/media/hEwkspP1OllJK/giphy.gif

[dewey]

I wonder what those kids did to get booted as Van Dellen was potentially the backup quarterback next year and Engel was a tall receiver that could have made contributions in the future.

Dewey

[Bisonator]

Two more scholarships opened up for next year! Time to get another receiver!

Do they go to ISUr or Youngstown? That's the real question! Just joking, fans.

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Bo and Brock are already in contact.xlolx

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I wonder what those kids did to get booted as Van Dellen was potentially the backup quarterback next year and Engel was a tall receiver that could have made contributions in the future.

Dewey
I don't think it's hard to connect the dots.

[RootinFerDukes]

I wonder what those kids did to get booted as Van Dellen was potentially the backup quarterback next year and Engel was a tall receiver that could have made contributions in the future.

Dewey

Edit: It sounds like a multiple time failed drug test.

One of our top DBs, Jimmy Moreland, was dismissed from the team by Everett Withers and was later reinstated by Mike Houston prior to his first year after Moreland took a year off from the program. He came back as a walk-on. I want to say it was some petty larceny charge.

[POD Knows]

Yep. Gone from NDSU's football program forever at least.What, did they freaking kill somebody or something. When was the last time this happened?

[BreakEvenPeach]

The ones kicked off were second time offenders for drug use and the one suspended was a first time offense

[IBleedYellow]

What, did they freaking kill somebody or something. When was the last time this happened?

Doesn't matter. Cut the bad seeds out of the system before they spread.

Zero Tolerance. Coach K said they gone - then moved on. That's it. The end.

They aren't on any county lists in ND...try checking MN if you want.

3 scholarships just opened up. Next man up.

[TheKingpin28]

Well, seems like a couple NDSU players decided to be boneheads during the bye week:

https://twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/935237428897513473

All of those guys were just depth at this point but two (Van Dellen and Engel) were redshirt freshman who were in line to contribute over the next few years. No details from Klieman beyond saying it was a violation of team rules. Must not have been very good to justify an immediate dismissal. Good for coach for dropping the hammer though. Hopefully it sends a message.

Wow! To be outright dismissed is not good at all.

[CappinHard]

NDSU set as 26.5 favorites according to 5dimes, total at 47.5. NDSU should cover easy as long as they don't look past San Diego.

Already up to 29.5.

[RootinFerDukes]

The ones kicked off were second time offenders for drug use and the one suspended was a first time offense

If it's drugs, isn't the NCAA suspension a half a season, or 5.5 games?

[BreakEvenPeach]

If it's drugs, isn't the NCAA suspension a half a season, or 5.5 games?


You are probably right, im really not sure. But it appears NDSU must have a “2 strikes and you’re out system”

[IBleedYellow]

In other news:

Brock Spack reportedly in contact with 3 former Bison scholarship players.

[IBleedYellow]

If it's drugs, isn't the NCAA suspension a half a season, or 5.5 games?

If the University testing caught them - the NCAA doesn't require those suspensions.

http://www.ncaa.org/sport-science-institute/topics/frequently-asked-questions-about-drug-testing

Who is responsible for testing student-athletes?
The NCAA and its member schools share the responsibility of not only testing, but also educating student-athletes to prevent drug usage. The NCAA conducts testing at its championships, and year round on campus in Division I and II programs. In addition, the majority of institutions conduct their own institutional testing programs independent of NCAA drug testing. The NCAA spends more than $6 million annually on drug testing and education in an effort to deter the use of banned and harmful substances.

What is the penalty for failing a school-administered drug test?
Each NCAA member school is responsible for determining whether to establish an institutional drug-testing program, at which time the school would be responsible for determining applicable penalties. If a testing program is established, though, the school is obligated to enforce the penalties. Failure to do so can lead to NCAA sanctions.

[RootinFerDukes]

So school ran tests instead of the NCAA ones. Better to catch it before the association does I guess. Thanks.

[BreakEvenPeach]

NDSU slim at backup QB now. Hope that doesnt change how they run Easton. Hes very dynamic with his legs

[Bisonator]

What, did they freaking kill somebody or something. When was the last time this happened?
Not that long ago actually. I don't think it was announced though, they simply disappeared. ;)

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NDSU slim at backup QB now. Hope that doesnt change how they run Easton. Hes very dynamic with his legs
Davis is back now so we're good.

[POD Knows]

Doesn't matter. Cut the bad seeds out of the system before they spread.

Zero Tolerance. Coach K said they gone - then moved on. That's it. The end.

They aren't on any county lists in ND...try checking MN if you want.

3 scholarships just opened up. Next man up.I don't really care that they are gone but I can't remember the last time this happened at NDSU, maybe it happens all the time and I haven't noticed.

[Bisonoline]

If it's drugs, isn't the NCAA suspension a half a season, or 5.5 games?

Schools dont have follow that as a maximum punishment.

[BreakEvenPeach]

Not that long ago actually. I don't think it was announced though, they simply disappeared. ;)

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Davis is back now so we're good.


Oh awesome, that helps alot then.

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

Has anybody heard the rumor Klieman is going to Nebraska as Defensive coordinator for Frost, if he is hired?

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

NDSU now 29.5 point favorite on 5 dimes.

[Bisonoline]

Has anybody heard the rumor Klieman is going to Nebraska as Defensive coordinator for Frost, if he is hired?

No rumor that he is going. Amongst the bar BS of course there has been talk of where he might go if there was an opportunity he liked. You always listen to an offer. Not that there has been one.

[Professor Chaos]

Has anybody heard the rumor Klieman is going to Nebraska as Defensive coordinator for Frost, if he is hired?
I haven't but that doesn't really add up. Frost's DC at UCF, Erik Chinader (http://ucfknights.com/coaches.aspx?rc=920&path=football), followed him to UCF from Oregon so it seems logical he'd go with to Nebraska if Frost was hired there. Unless of course UCF tries to retain him as the HC but, given that their calling card this year is being the highest scoring offense in the country, I think they'd prefer to retain an offensive guy like OC Troy Walters if they want to promote from within.

Of course I didn't think Bohl to Wyoming added up either so what do I know?

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

Nebraska fan posted it on a group I'm in.

[POD Knows]

I haven't but that doesn't really add up. Frost's DC at UCF, Erik Chinader (http://ucfknights.com/coaches.aspx?rc=920&path=football), followed him to UCF from Oregon so it seems logical he'd go with to Nebraska if Frost was hired there. Unless of course UCF tries to retain him as the HC but, given that their calling card this year is being the highest scoring offense in the country, I think they'd prefer to retain an offensive guy like OC Troy Walters if they want to promote from within.

Of course I didn't think Bohl to Wyoming added up either so what do I know?I am surprised UCF had a DC, you learn something new every day.

[TheKingpin28]

I am surprised UCF had a DC, you learn something new every day.

xsalutex

[ElCid]

11 votes for San Diego? Really? I think they did fine last week, ........but NDSU ain't NAU. I realize Pantherrob had an attack of Parkinson's when he voted, but does anyone who voted for them really think they are going to win? Did the NDSU suspensions push you over the top? xrotatehx

[Terrier19]

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21590423/north-dakota-state-bison-dismiss-three-amid-fcs-playoffs

NDSU dismisses 3 players and suspends another before the playoff game...

[DetroitFlyer]

Make it 12 for USD. Any given Saturday, or so they say. San Diego learned from last year and I expect a very competitive game that could go their way with a break or two.

[cx500d]

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21590423/north-dakota-state-bison-dismiss-three-amid-fcs-playoffs

NDSU dismisses 3 players and suspends another before the playoff game...

Wow...Wonder what happened here. Only one I know heard of from the dismissed is Van Dellen. He was supposed to be the next Wentz, I thought but don't know too much about him. The suspended WR Dallas Freeman has made some catches; given our somewhat weak receiving corps, that will hurt the most I think.

[BreakEvenPeach]

Wow...Wonder what happened here. Only one I know heard of from the dismissed is Van Dellen. He was supposed to be the next Wentz, I thought but don't know too much about him. The suspended WR Dallas Freeman has made some catches; given our somewhat weak receiving corps, that will hurt the most I think.

A couple failed drug tests. The three that were let go, it was their second one.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Wow...Wonder what happened here. Only one I know heard of from the dismissed is Van Dellen. He was supposed to be the next Wentz, I thought but don't know too much about him. The suspended WR Dallas Freeman has made some catches; given our somewhat weak receiving corps, that will hurt the most I think.


The kid from Marshall coming in would have beaten Van Dellen out. Lance is the real deal. He starts as a RFR IMO.

- - - Updated - - -

xlolx....12 jokers think USD is going to win this....xcrazyx

[Utgrizfan]

While i would love to see San Diego go full scholly and join the Big Sky, i just don't see it happening, even though it would mean growth in other sports as well. All other sports are in the WCC, so they'd be looking at football only memberships and I am not sure the Big Sky would even do that.

Both Cal Poly and UC-Davis are Football only members so it would be possible. Maybe start talking to some fellow Alumni about putting in for Scholarships perhaps or has it been brought up?

[Bisonoline]

I dont pick the winner in games that NDSU is in. HEnce my non vote. But USD played us pretty good last year. I didnt know anything about them. This year I thought they looked good against NAU. Dont know if thats because NAU was bad or USD that much better. Combination of both maybe?
With that said I dont think we roll them and I think they make a game out of it.

[centennial]

A couple failed drug tests. The three that were let go, it was their second one.

This could be it. However, how did you come across this information?

[dewey]

Here is a video from the Bison Media Blog about the USD vs. NDSU game plus also the 3 dismissals and 1 suspension.

http://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/bison-video-blog-san-diego-preview/

Dewey

[Bisonoline]

A couple failed drug tests. The three that were let go, it was their second one.

Since Coach K didnt release this information due to privacy laws did you obtain a release to do so?

[Redbird 4th & short]

Two more scholarships opened up for next year! Time to get another receiver!

Do they go to ISUr or Youngstown? That's the real question! Just joking, fans.

Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

Oh oh oh .. I hope they pick ISUr !!!

Because it would sure improve their chance of graduating on time ... noting ISU was won MVFC APR award 3 straight years now, and YSU was dead last 2 of 3 years. But yeah, ISUr and YSU ... just like 2 peas in a pod xeyebrowx .

So in case some missed or forgot .. or hell, let me just remind you all xdrunkyx . It is not easy getting all those parolees and ex-convicts to show up to class, much less graduate. :D

Here are this years 2015-16 results:

Sport School State Academic Year Multi-Year Rate
Football Illinois State University IL 2015-2016 969
Football Missouri State University MO 2015-2016 966
Football North Dakota State University ND 2015-2016 964
Football University of Northern Iowa IA 2015-2016 963
Football University of South Dakota SD 2015-2016 963
Football South Dakota State University SD 2015-2016 957
Football Western Illinois University IL 2015-2016 952
Football Southern Illinois University at Carbondale IL 2015-2016 950
Football Indiana State University IN 2015-2016 948
Football Youngstown State University OH 2015-2016 936

Here are 2014-15 results:

Sport School State Academic Year Multi-Year Rate
Football Illinois State University IL 2014-2015 970
Football University of Northern Iowa IA 2014-2015 965
Football South Dakota State University SD 2014-2015 955
Football University of South Dakota SD 2014-2015 954
Football Missouri State University MO 2014-2015 952
Football Indiana State University IN 2014-2015 951
Football North Dakota State University ND 2014-2015 951
Football Western Illinois University IL 2014-2015 949
Football Southern Illinois University at Carbondale IL 2014-2015 944
Football Youngstown State University OH 2014-2015 935

Here are 2013-14 results:

Sport School State Academic Year Multi-Year Rate
Football Illinois State University IL 2013-2014 972
Football University of Northern Iowa IA 2013-2014 962
Football South Dakota State University SD 2013-2014 955
Football North Dakota State University ND 2013-2014 953
Football University of South Dakota SD 2013-2014 949
Football Western Illinois University IL 2013-2014 947
Football Indiana State University IN 2013-2014 945
Football Southern Illinois University at Carbondale IL 2013-2014 944
Football Youngstown State University OH 2013-2014 943
Football Missouri State University MO 2013-2014 939

[dewey]

Here is an article from Mike McFeely about the 3 players from NDSU that were dismissed and the 1 that was suspended.

http://mcfeely.areavoices.com/2017/11/27/klieman-mum-about-dismissals-getting-rumor-mill-going/

Here is the color map for this weekends game. Bisonoline make sure to where the right color:D

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26631&stc=1

Dewey

[JSUSoutherner]

Here is an article from Mike McFeely about the 3 players from NDSU that were dismissed and the 1 that was suspended.

http://mcfeely.areavoices.com/2017/11/27/klieman-mum-about-dismissals-getting-rumor-mill-going/

Here is the color map for this weekends game. Bisonoline make sure to where the right color:D

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26631&stc=1

Dewey
Random unrealated question:

Where on that map is the visitors seating and where do the other team's bands normally sit?

[BNATION]

Section 24....

[MR. CHICKEN]

Section 24....

...THANKY....JES' SAVED DUH BIG BYRD....MANY DUCATS....ALL DAT EXPENSE/TRAVEL....TA SIT IN DUNCE CORNERAH....FO' PRIVLEDGE UH WATCHIN' HENS.....SLOW ROASTED....NAW...xsmhx..AWK!

[AmsterBison]

...THANKY....JES' SAVED DUH BIG BYRD....MANY DUCATS....ALL DAT EXPENSE/TRAVEL....TA SIT IN DUNCE CORNERAH....FO' PRIVLEDGE UH WATCHIN' HENS.....SLOW ROASTED....NAW...xsmhx..AWK!

He was joking. The visitors get better seats than that (there aren't any bad seats in the FargoDome though.)

Delaware will get a block of seats in a sideline section when they visit. Or you could go through tailgate and pick up some tickets there more than likely.

[SSOASS]

I would really like to see you guys join the Big Sky, personally I feel the move would benefit both parties. You would get lots of California rivals and less travel expenses and we could then schedule based on 2 Divisons rather then the rivals system currently in place:

NORTH:
-Montana, MSU, EWU, Idaho, ISU, UNC, PSU

SOUTH:
-Sac State, Cal Poly, UC-Davis, USD, NAU, SUU, WSU


I just do not see that happening, I do not think the school has a desire to do that. You are right that it would save travel expenses, but USD costs about $65K/year to attend .. those are some expensive scholarships. I think they are content where they are in football and playing at a higher level in other sports.

I do not live in San Diego anymore, but was out there a few months ago and drove though the campus, the new baseball field is pretty spectacular, there is a fairly new and nice basketball facility, and we have generally had good women's soccer and volleyball teams.

I would say if any of you find yourselves in San Diego, take a spin through the campus, it is incredibly nice .. and a short drive from Sea World :)

[SSOASS]

NDSU now 29.5 point favorite on 5 dimes.


I think we (USD) have a good shot to cover that

[POD Knows]

Random unrealated question:

Where on that map is the visitors seating and where do the other team's bands normally sit?Section 23, our 9 seats are in section 6 which is basically the same position in relation to the field and they are pretty good seats, there really aren't any bad seats in the building.

[SSOASS]

While i would love to see San Diego go full scholly and join the Big Sky, i just don't see it happening, even though it would mean growth in other sports as well. All other sports are in the WCC, so they'd be looking at football only memberships and I am not sure the Big Sky would even do that.

It would be nice to be able to go to away games without getting on an airplane. As it is, distance is the main reason some of my fellow alumni have passed two years in a row on the NDSU game. 24 hour drive or $700 airfare. Maybe we should just make plans next year for the 2nd round in Fargo. It will be an annual event.


The few times it has come it, it seems the school as no desire to make football a scholarship program. I think the other sports are better in the WCC. particularly baseball and basketball.

[Professor Chaos]

Random unrealated question:

Where on that map is the visitors seating and where do the other team's bands normally sit?
I don't recall an opposing school ever bringing a band. I would suspect they would try to cram everything into the normal section 23 visitors section but I don't know if that would be enough per the NCAA guidelines. I believe there's only about 500-600 seats total in that section.

If JSU does come to Fargo for the semis and wants to bring their band I think the NDSU ticket office will have to do some mental gymnastics to move around season ticket holders they'd have to displace.

[JSUSoutherner]

I don't recall an opposing school ever bringing a band. I would suspect they would try to cram everything into the normal section 23 visitors section but I don't know if that would be enough per the NCAA guidelines. I believe there's only about 500-600 seats total in that section.

If JSU does come to Fargo for the semis and wants to bring their band I think the NDSU ticket office will have to do some mental gymnastics to move around season ticket holders they'd have to displace.
Well, if we do come as a full group (no means confirmed), the Southerners alone would take up 500+ seats.

We are however guaranteed bringing a 100 member band if the full Southerners don't go and we make it that far.

[Professor Chaos]

Well, if we do come, the Southerners alone would take up 500 seats.

Are they chairback seats with arms arms or are they bench seats?
Chairbacks with arms.

You know now that I think about it I think Wofford might have brought their band in 2012. I faintly remember instruments scattered around in section 23 for that game. That band wasn't nearly as large as JSU's was though so it didn't fill the whole section and at that time there were still a few visitor seats right behind the visitor bench in section 16.

It actually wouldn't be that hard for NDSU to move some season ticket holders in section 22 if necessary now that I think about it. The students never use their full allotment during the playoffs (sections 10-16) so they usually sell several of those sections to the general public. Guessing they could just relocate some season ticket holders there for that game.

[BNATION]

Professor, i have a question. Say SH gets by JSU in the quarters, what is your prediction for the SH NDSU matchup, and the JSU NDSU matchup.

[BisonFanAnn]

SHSU brought a small band in 2014. They joined the GSMB on the field at halftime to do some Christmas songs. The GSMB (in green) formed the outline of a Christmas tree, and the SHSU band members (in orange) were the ornaments.

[MR. CHICKEN]

He was joking. The visitors get better seats than that (there aren't any bad seats in the FargoDome though.)

Delaware will get a block of seats in a sideline section when they visit. Or you could go through tailgate and pick up some tickets there more than likely.

....DUH CHICKEN IS UH TRUSTIN' SOUL........AH'VE SENT DUH IRS....MAH BACK TAXES..........MAH NEPHEW NEEDED BAIL...IN MONTREAL....PAID IT.........AN' SENT MAH COMPUTER INFO....TA SOME INDIAN GUY....TA REPAIR MAH FIREWALL.........AN' YER TELLIN' ME....DUH SAM HOUSTON PERV.......WAS JOKIN'......xconfusedx.......AWK!

[Professor Chaos]

Professor, i have a question. Say SH gets by JSU in the quarters, what is your prediction for the SH NDSU matchup, and the JSU NDSU matchup.
Well, I'm a homer so I'd expect the Bison to beat both. I think I'd put SHSU as my preferred opponent just because I think the Bison match up better against teams with a strong offense and weaker defense than vice versa. As of right now I'm still not sold that JSU is as good as their seed indicates since they have yet to play a top 25 FCS team IMO. But if they beat Kennesaw and SHSU to get to the semis I'd say they've sufficiently put those doubts to rest.

So my "shot in the dark homer prediction" for an NDSU/SHSU semi would be 38-24 Bison and for the NDSU/JSU semi I'll say 23-13 Bison.

[BNATION]

Agreed I would have the Bison favored in both games. I'm excited for the possible SHSU JSU quarter game. 14' SHSU wins 37-26, 15' JSU wins 62-10. Tie breaker this year sounds right.


Well, I'm a homer so I'd expect the Bison to beat both. I think I'd put SHSU as my preferred opponent just because I think the Bison match up better against teams with a strong offense and weaker defense than vice versa. As of right now I'm still not sold that JSU is as good as their seed indicates since they have yet to play a top 25 FCS team IMO. But if they beat Kennesaw and SHSU to get to the semis I'd say they've sufficiently put those doubts to rest.

[caribbeanhen]

....DUH CHICKEN IS UH TRUSTIN' SOUL........AH'VE SENT DUH IRS....MAH BACK TAXES..........MAH NEPHEW NEEDED BAIL...IN MONTREAL....PAID IT.........AN' SENT MAH COMPUTER INFO....TA SOME INDIAN GUY....TA REPAIR MAH FIREWALL.........AN' YER TELLIN' ME....DUH SAM HOUSTON PERV.......WAS JOKIN'......xconfusedx.......AWK!

just hilarious Mr Chicken

[Redbird 4th & short]

....DUH CHICKEN IS UH TRUSTIN' SOUL........AH'VE SENT DUH IRS....MAH BACK TAXES..........MAH NEPHEW NEEDED BAIL...IN MONTREAL....PAID IT.........AN' SENT MAH COMPUTER INFO....TA SOME INDIAN GUY....TA REPAIR MAH FIREWALL.........AN' YER TELLIN' ME....DUH SAM HOUSTON PERV.......WAS JOKIN'......xconfusedx.......AWK!

Mr Chicken,

Your insights on AGS are always .. uh .. insightful .. and humorous. Been meaning to ask you to settle this very confusing matter for us ignorant city dwellers, regarding your kind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97DKYE4ezm8

[IBleedYellow]

I saw with just put JSU's band in the Student section seats.

[Professor Chaos]

I saw with just put JSU's band in the Student section seats.
That would make sense also but then they'd be awful close to NDSU's Gold Star Marching Band. If the GSMB was better it might be fun to give us a little "battle of the bands" action during timeouts but, in this instance, the GSMB would be like Custer at Little Bighorn.

[walliver]

Chairbacks with arms.

You know now that I think about it I think Wofford might have brought their band in 2012. I faintly remember instruments scattered around in section 23 for that game. That band wasn't nearly as large as JSU's was though so it didn't fill the whole section and at that time there were still a few visitor seats right behind the visitor bench in section 16.

It actually wouldn't be that hard for NDSU to move some season ticket holders in section 22 if necessary now that I think about it. The students never use their full allotment during the playoffs (sections 10-16) so they usually sell several of those sections to the general public. Guessing they could just relocate some season ticket holders there for that game.

What is this "band" thing of which you speak? We don't have one, and don't want that kind of people on our campus:).
Furman has one, but it doesn't travel much.

[JSUSoutherner]

That would make sense also but then they'd be awful close to NDSU's Gold Star Marching Band. If the GSMB was better it might be fun to give us a little "battle of the bands" action during timeouts but, in this instance, the GSMB would be like Custer at Little Bighorn.
TBH, if the full Southerners come, it won't matter where in the stadium we are.

We might break your decibel record.

[Professor Chaos]

What is this "band" thing of which you speak? We don't have one, and don't want that kind of people on our campus:).
Furman has one, but it doesn't travel much.
Haha, my apologies. I must've been confusing you guys with SHSU in 2014 when they brought their band like a previous poster alluded to.

I'm going to see if I can find a sensitivity class to take to understand how to better handle situations like these. No one should ever be subjected to being falsely associated with band.... it's just inhuman.

[BNATION]

xlolx

Haha, my apologies. I must've been confusing you guys with SHSU in 2014 when they brought their band like a previous poster alluded to.

I'm going to see if I can find a sensitivity class to take to understand how to better handle situations like these. No one should ever be subjected to being falsely associated with band.... it's just inhuman.

[POD Knows]

TBH, if the full Southerners come, it won't matter where in the stadium we are.

We might break your decibel record.The band isn't welcome unless JSU gives up all of their fan seating in section 23 but I doubt that a 500 man band positioned next to these blue haired folks in section 22 would be welcomed. :D

[Professor Chaos]

The band isn't welcome unless JSU gives up all of their fan seating in section 23 but I doubt that a 500 man band positioned next to these blue haired folks in section 22 would be welcomed. :D
Unfortunately I think it's in the NCAA Championship handbook that if the visiting school wants to bring its band to a playoff game the host school has to provide them with seats that are separate from that visiting school's normal allotment. What I don't know is what the limit is or if there is one for number of spots that the band can take up.

[POD Knows]

Unfortunately I think it's in the NCAA Championship handbook that if the visiting school wants to bring its band to a playoff game the host school has to provide them with seats that are separate from that visiting school's normal allotment. What I don't know is what the limit is or if there is one for number of spots that the band can take up.Really?? How the hell would that work, what % of the seats are reserved and how would you get a block or section that could seat several hundred band members if they chose to bring them. Would you move people out of reserved seats and reposition them? I think a 100 could probably be handled but if they decide to bring the entire band and the NCAA required that we comply with that request, it could get pretty interesting.

[Professor Chaos]

Really?? How the hell would that work, what % of the seats are reserved and how would you get a block or section that could seat several hundred band members if they chose to bring them. Would you move people out of reserved seats and reposition them? I think a 100 could probably be handled but if they decide to bring the entire band and the NCAA required that we comply with that request, it could get pretty interesting.
Agreed that it could get interesting. It's up to the host institution to find the seats for them I believe. Like I said earlier, with how half of the student section is almost always sold to the general public for playoff games there are spots to relocate season ticket holders to or, like IBY suggested, just put the opposing school's band there (which would get interesting in itself to have them surround by NDSU students).

[caribbeanhen]

POD gets to share a seat with the Tuba player

[JSUSoutherner]

Agreed that it could get interesting. It's up to the host institution to find the seats for them I believe. Like I said earlier, with how half of the student section is almost always sold to the general public for playoff games there are spots to relocate season ticket holders to or, like IBY suggested, just put the opposing school's band there (which would get interesting in itself to have them surround by NDSU students).

We can start a yelling contest with the student section. xlolx

[POD Knows]

We can start a yelling contest with the student section. xlolxThe students leave at halftime regardless of what the score is so you would have most of that section to yourself later in the game.

[JSUSoutherner]

The students leave at halftime regardless of what the score is so you would have most of that section to yourself later in the game.
I'm glad we aren't the only one with that problem. xcoffeex

[BNATION]

Ours barely show up to begin with so you have that going for you.

[Bison56]

POD gets to share a seat with the Tuba player

xlolx

[TheKingpin28]

xlolx

I would love to see that go down.

[TheKingpin28]

The students leave at halftime regardless of what the score is so you would have most of that section to yourself later in the game.


I'm glad we aren't the only one with that problem. xcoffeex

I member back in the day when I would sit over there, back before NDSU won a championship or 5, and we would actually stay. Back when the fanatics showed up in droves and the Fargodome was so loud your ears would ring for hours after the game.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyrTLElWIAEWVE_.jpg

[UpstateBison]

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[Bisonator]

JSU's band can be placed in the corners. :D

[IBleedYellow]

I member back in the day when I would sit over there, back before NDSU won a championship or 5, and we would actually stay. Back when the fanatics showed up in droves and the Fargodome was so loud your ears would ring for hours after the game.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyrTLElWIAEWVE_.jpg

Oh shutup. That's never happened.

I went to school with you. We both know you're lying.

[dewey]

Well, I'm a homer so I'd expect the Bison to beat both. I think I'd put SHSU as my preferred opponent just because I think the Bison match up better against teams with a strong offense and weaker defense than vice versa. As of right now I'm still not sold that JSU is as good as their seed indicates since they have yet to play a top 25 FCS team IMO. But if they beat Kennesaw and SHSU to get to the semis I'd say they've sufficiently put those doubts to rest.

So my "shot in the dark homer prediction" for an NDSU/SHSU semi would be 38-24 Bison and for the NDSU/JSU semi I'll say 23-13 Bison.

Very good analysis off the cuff PC. I would agree with your statements and predicted score.

Dewey

[POD Knows]

POD gets to share a seat with the Tuba playerIf she is hot, I am in

[POD Knows]

I member back in the day when I would sit over there, back before NDSU won a championship or 5, and we would actually stay. Back when the fanatics showed up in droves and the Fargodome was so loud your ears would ring for hours after the game.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyrTLElWIAEWVE_.jpgI have been going to the home games since I moved to the Fargo area back in 2007, students always leave early, it is what they do. The ones that sit low in the stands will stay longer but students are usually the first ones out of the building. It is what it is.

[TheKingpin28]

Oh shutup. That's never happened.

I went to school with you. We both know you're lying.

It was way better than what it was. No I am not lying. We could actually convince students to stay. Now almost all are gone by halftime but back then a majority would stay through the game. I never once said it was full, but continue to deceive yourself.

[IBleedYellow]

It was way better than what it was. No I am not lying. We could actually convince students to stay. Now almost all are gone by halftime but back then a majority would stay through the game. I never once said it was full, but continue to deceive yourself.

https://giphy.com/gifs/iron-man-eye-roll-disgust-qmfpjpAT2fJRK

Holy ****. No. Just. No.

Do I need to get off your lawn, too?

[TheKingpin28]

https://giphy.com/gifs/iron-man-eye-roll-disgust-qmfpjpAT2fJRK

Holy ****. No. Just. No.

Do I need to get off your lawn, too?

I guess we view things differently. I won't lose sleep over it.

[BisonFan02]

It was way better than what it was. No I am not lying. We could actually convince students to stay. Now almost all are gone by halftime but back then a majority would stay through the game. I never once said it was full, but continue to deceive yourself.

You are so full of **** it isn't even funny anymore.

[TheKingpin28]

You are so full of **** it isn't even funny anymore.

Please do tell. I want to know what I have said that is "so full of ****". I had a gaffe about Beck and I owned up to it. Outside of that, I would beg to differ.

[BisonFan02]

Please do tell. I want to know what I have said that is "so full of ****". I had a gaffe about Beck and I owned up to it. Outside of that, I would beg to differ.

........check the quote about student attendance amongst others. It is complete bull****.

[TheRevSFA]

xpopcornx

[Serpentor]

If it's drugs, isn't the NCAA suspension a half a season, or 5.5 games?

Students don't normally get kicked off the team for the first time using drugs, odds are these fellows had some sort of toxic background on campus that the coaching staff already knew about and this was the final straw.

[IBleedYellow]

I member back in the day when I would sit over there, back before NDSU won a championship or 5, and we would actually stay. Back when the fanatics showed up in droves and the Fargodome was so loud your ears would ring for hours after the game.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyrTLElWIAEWVE_.jpg

Let's add even more context to this:
Stats from NDSU - http://www.gobison.com/sports/2013/6/5/fbstats.aspx



2010
7 Games
15,944


2009
5 Games
16,515


2011
8 Games
18,143




Sorry, but we haven't consistently sold out since the Championships started. The students were part of the difference in those totals, too.

[TheKingpin28]

Let's add even more context to this:
Stats from NDSU - http://www.gobison.com/sports/2013/6/5/fbstats.as (http://www.gobison.com/sports/2013/6/5/fbstats.as:)



2010
7 Games
15,944


2009
5 Games
16,515


2011
8 Games
18,143




Sorry, but we haven't consistently sold out since the Championships started. The students were part of the difference in those totals, too.

Link is broken.

[IBleedYellow]

Link is broken.

Google hard to use?

http://www.gobison.com/sports/2013/6/5/fbstats.aspx

[Redbird 4th & short]

Since Coach K didnt release this information due to privacy laws did you obtain a release to do so?

circling wagons ? Why would you be more concerned with how information was obtained ? is it because of the revelation that apparently NDSU football believes in giving kids 2nd chances .. which contradicts the whole "zero tolerance" culture that is widely claimed and used to look down noses at ISU. I have no issue with coaches doling out 2nd chances and their own punishments. And I don't doubt NDSU program integrity at all .. but, it is not zero tolerance if this poster is correct.

But your more interested in going after the mole, than what the mole revealed ... how convenient.

[Bisonoline]

circling wagons ? Why would you be more concerned with how information was obtained ? is it because of the revelation that apparently NDSU football believes in giving kids 2nd chances .. which contradicts the whole "zero tolerance" culture that is widely claimed and used to look down noses at ISU. I have no issue with coaches doling out 2nd chances and their own punishments. And I don't doubt NDSU program integrity at all .. but, it is not zero tolerance if this poster is correct.

But your more interested in going after the mole, than what the mole revealed ... how convenient.

Not at all. It all has to do with the CORRECT information. Somebody sprouting up on a message board spouting private information always gives me pause. Now you and others are extrapolation all sorts of meaning and questioning policy etc etc. Youve already done that in your post.
But you look at it as circling the wagons? yeah ok.

[Gil Dobie]

I don't recall an opposing school ever bringing a band. I would suspect they would try to cram everything into the normal section 23 visitors section but I don't know if that would be enough per the NCAA guidelines. I believe there's only about 500-600 seats total in that section.

If JSU does come to Fargo for the semis and wants to bring their band I think the NDSU ticket office will have to do some mental gymnastics to move around season ticket holders they'd have to displace.

There are plenty of seats beyond season ticket holders, that they could reserve prior to ticket being sold to the public.

[Professor Chaos]

There are plenty of seats beyond season ticket holders, that they could reserve prior to ticket being sold to the public.
True but those are all in the upper end zones and I think less than 200 seats per section. Regardless, they'll figure it out if they need to.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Not at all. It all has to do with the CORRECT information. Somebody sprouting up on a message board spouting private information always gives me pause. Now you and others are extrapolation all sorts of meaning and questioning policy etc etc. Youve already done that in your post.
But you look at it as circling the wagons? yeah ok.

Yep, this is what that feels like x 100 if you're Redbird football fan.

[Bisonoline]

Yep, this is what that feels like x 100 if you're Redbird football fan.

I guess you see that a lot where youre from. Makes sense.

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

NDSU favored by 30 now.

https://www.5dimes.eu/livelines/livelines.aspx#al_3

[Winterborn]

Agreed that it could get interesting. It's up to the host institution to find the seats for them I believe. Like I said earlier, with how half of the student section is almost always sold to the general public for playoff games there are spots to relocate season ticket holders to or, like IBY suggested, just put the opposing school's band there (which would get interesting in itself to have them surround by NDSU students).


We can start a yelling contest with the student section. xlolx

Please bring the band and get put in the student section. You would have to yell, because the tubas would be plugged up with those little foam footballs that get tossed around before the game. Popcorn would be thrown, and who knows what else would get snuck into the game and used as ammo. Probably a lot of mini shooters. :D Hell, I would go sit in the student section just for the entertainment.

[Redbird 4th & short]

I guess you see that a lot where youre from. Makes sense.

it's seems to have toned down considerably since I've been boasting about how we won 3 straight MVFC APRs. but we still get the snide comments, like recent Bison poster on this thread who lumped us in with YSU in suggesting we would scoop them up. Now I know he was partly joking, but his joke reflected his perception .. and his perception is not close to reality. Spack does give some kids 2nd chances, but holds his student-athletes very accountable on and off the field. He's earned that right better than most coaches, just like Klieman has.

Anyway, I have nothing but respect for NDSU program and Coach Klieman. And wasn't really trying to call you out .. just happened to be a fellow Bison poster who lumped us in with YSU, and then you questioned source of info.

Side note and back on topic .. I'm thinking San Diego has quietly become a pretty good team the last 2 years, and will be better than team you faced a year ago. Klieman no doubt will remember they hung tough for a half, though NDSU likely was not primed for huge game and possibly played your B game a year ago. Just saying, I would expect a better San Diego team this year. They are still playing with nothing to lose.

[Gil Dobie]

True but those are all in the upper end zones and I think less than 200 seats per section. Regardless, they'll figure it out if they need to.

I think SDSU had a band up in the endzone, maybe close to 10 years ago.

[SSOASS]

Side note and back on topic .. I'm thinking San Diego has quietly become a pretty good team the last 2 years, and will be better than team you faced a year ago. Klieman no doubt will remember they hung tough for a half, though NDSU likely was not primed for huge game and possibly played your B game a year ago. Just saying, I would expect a better San Diego team this year. They are still playing with nothing to lose.

USD has the advantage of having been here before, last year was a bit of "happy to be here" .. this year, I think they think they have a shot. it would obviously be a massive upset and is unlikely ... but I am sure USD will give it their best effort and make it a competitive game.

If they can run at least effectively to control the clock, hit on a couple big plays, and minimize NDSU's big plays .. they have a shot. The difference is USD has zero margin for error and and NDSU has a pretty sizable margin of error.

In any case, I am happy they are here 2 years in a row, it is a big step for the program and something to keep building on.

[MTfan4life]

Wofford doesn't blow out anyone. SHSU's defense would give up points. SUU is another Big Sky team.

They beat a Big Sky team 41-10. I don't care who you are, to do that on the road is super impressive. SD really couldn't have kicked NAU's butt anymore. I think your underestimating SD's play along the lines and skill guys. Their WR's made balling plays....

They also lost to a 5-6 Big Sky team 35-7, so it's pretty tough to try and guess how they would stack up against other teams. Their defensive line is really good, though. So, a team with a solid offensive line, might balance that out well, but one who struggles in that area is in for a long day. Jake Maier was just sacked once against San Diego while Cookus was sacked 4 times, along with several hurries and an essential change to their game plan in making him leave the pocket more. I wish I would have looked more into that stat when predicting that game instead of just seeing they lost to UC-Davis, so they'll fare the same against NAU. San Diego was strong in all of NAU's weak areas. They went after those weaknesses. That won't happen against NDSU, nor do I think it would happen against any of the teams hosting this next weekend. New Hampshire gave up nearly 50 sacks this season and had no running game whatsoever, so SD could match up with them in a similar fashion.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

TBH, if the full Southerners come, it won't matter where in the stadium we are.

We might break your decibel record.


JSU has a very good band....heard them 1st hand down in Frisco. They would totally embarrass our GSMB in our own building....:(xnodx

[mmiller_34]

I voted for NDSU in this poll.

[JSUSoutherner]

JSU has a very good band....heard them 1st hand down in Frisco. They would totally embarrass our GSMB in our own building....:(xnodx
Can't have that. If we make it to the semis you guys should just forfeit so we don't have to humiliate them like that. xnodx

[IBleedYellow]

Can't have that. If we make it to the semis you guys should just forfeit so we don't have to humiliate them like that. xnodxI mean it's the only way your football team won't be embarrassed again.

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[JSUSoutherner]

I mean it's the only way your football team won't be embarrassed again.

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Is it?

[dewey]

Here is an article about NDSU's 26 game winning streak following a bye week.

http://www.inforum.com/sports/4366139-bye-week-blockbuster-bison-have-won-26-straight-games-after-open-date

Dewey

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Can't have that. If we make it to the semis you guys should just forfeit so we don't have to humiliate them like that. xnodx


Nah, as a fan, I'm not too worried about the potential matchup against JSU because of their sporadic passing game. JSU will need to pass the ball to win the game.

[BNATION]

Dont worry you will be playing a orange not red sporadic passing attack...


Nah, as a fan, I'm not too worried about the potential matchup against JSU because of their sporadic passing game. JSU will need to pass the ball to win the game.

[JSUSoutherner]

Nah, as a fan, I'm not too worried about the potential matchup against JSU because of their sporadic passing game. JSU will need to pass the ball to win the game.
I can live with that.

Our passing game has indeed been "meh" at times.

But against the two Valley teams we've played we're averaging 4.7 and 6.5 yards a carry and we've also had turnover issues in both games.

I think if we can get Roc going a little bit, not turn it over, and play defense we should be able to hang and hopefully make it interesting. But if we do have to lean on the passing game it might get awkward.

Gotta get there first though. xcoffeex

[Gil Dobie]

Remember Bison fans, it's bad luck to post in Crapsville before your team is out of the playoffs.

[Trapper..]

Vamos Toreros!


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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Remember Bison fans, it's bad luck to post in Crapsville before your team is out of the playoffs.


Crapsville?

[BisonFan02]

Remember Bison fans, it's bad luck to post in Crapsville before your team is out of the playoffs.

This.

[woffordgrad94]

Hey, if San Diego can pull the miracle of miracles here, and I’m talking more miraculous than a Hallmark movie Christmas miracle, and Wofford can down the FUR men, then USD will likely come to Wofford! That’s great news!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Hey, if San Diego can pull the miracle of miracles here, and I’m talking more miraculous than a Hallmark movie Christmas miracle, and Wofford can down the FUR men, then USD will likely come to Wofford! That’s great news!




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[Professor Chaos]

Remember Bison fans, it's bad luck to post in Crapsville before your team is out of the playoffs.
Pretty sure I haven't even opened any Crapsville thread since December 2010. Might've last year in my post-JMU haze but I doubt it.

[JSUSoutherner]

Hey, if San Diego can pull the miracle of miracles here, and I’m talking more miraculous than a Hallmark movie Christmas miracle, and Wofford can down the FUR men, then USD will likely come to Wofford! That’s great news!
That's an interesting word choice considering USD is firmly the worst team left in this corner.

[NDSUtk]

it's seems to have toned down considerably since I've been boasting about how we won 3 straight MVFC APRs. but we still get the snide comments, like recent Bison poster on this thread who lumped us in with YSU in suggesting we would scoop them up. Now I know he was partly joking, but his joke reflected his perception .. and his perception is not close to reality. Spack does give some kids 2nd chances, but holds his student-athletes very accountable on and off the field. He's earned that right better than most coaches, just like Klieman has.

Anyway, I have nothing but respect for NDSU program and Coach Klieman. And wasn't really trying to call you out .. just happened to be a fellow Bison poster who lumped us in with YSU, and then you questioned source of info.

Side note and back on topic .. I'm thinking San Diego has quietly become a pretty good team the last 2 years, and will be better than team you faced a year ago. Klieman no doubt will remember they hung tough for a half, though NDSU likely was not primed for huge game and possibly played your B game a year ago. Just saying, I would expect a better San Diego team this year. They are still playing with nothing to lose.Yup I made the comment. Can't believe you went full youngterrier with your response too. Just checking, you realize APR does not measure the character of the kids and if they are getting second chances right?

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[cx500d]

Hey, if San Diego can pull the miracle of miracles here, and I’m talking more miraculous than a Hallmark movie Christmas miracle, and Wofford can down the FUR men, then USD will likely come to Wofford! That’s great news!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbQTXFJL8lo

[woffordgrad94]

I HOPE you people realize that my post was made in jest! The Hallmark movie part should’ve gave it away!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I HOPE you people realize that my post was made in jest! The Hallmark movie part should’ve gave it away!


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[Hammerhead]

It's a thin line between confidence and arrogance when your team has gone at leastas far as the quarterfinals the past 7 years and only two losses in the playoffs were to the eventual national champions.

[woffordgrad94]

I agree about that thin line. Just remember- CONFIDENCE is EARNED and 100% justified! ARROGANCE is douchey and never justified! No one likes a douche!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I agree about that thin line. Just remember- CONFIDENCE is EARNED and 100% justified! ARROGANCE is douchey and never justified! No one likes a douche!


Give me a break.

There hasn't been one Bison on this thread being a douche. Are we confident? Sure we are as a group and if USD beats the Bison then everyone of us will be on here tipping our hats to them.

[TheKingpin28]

Give me a break.

There hasn't been one Bison on this thread being a douche. Are we confident? Sure we are as a group and if USD beats the Bison then everyone of us will be on here tipping our hats to them.

I am trying to figure out who he is mentioning. Sure some of us have heated arguments with each other but being a douche, that requires a whole lot more.

[Bison56]

I agree about that thin line. Just remember- CONFIDENCE is EARNED and 100% justified! ARROGANCE is douchey and never justified! No one likes a douche!
I will have to take your word for it.

[Bisonoline]

I agree about that thin line. Just remember- CONFIDENCE is EARNED and 100% justified! ARROGANCE is douchey and never justified! No one likes a douche!

xcoffeex

[dewey]

I am trying to figure out who he is mentioning. Sure some of us have heated arguments with each other but being a douche, that requires a whole lot more.

I would guess a certain Bison fan that hasn't posted here in quite a while...thankfully.

Dewey

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I am trying to figure out who he is mentioning. Sure some of us have heated arguments with each other but being a douche, that requires a whole lot more.


Bison fans have more heated engagements with each other than anyone else.

I like getting neg rep from lakesbisonclown on BV every time I mention PJ Fleck is a used car salesman and will not do jack squat at U of M....xlolx

[Bison56]

I miss the GSU fans.

[Professor Chaos]

I miss the GSU fans.
We had some classics.... pregame threads that is.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?102839-NDSU-vs-Georgia-Southern-Semifinals

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?125793-Georgia-Southern-North-Dakota-State

Nearly 5,000 posts between the two.

[Bison56]

We had some classics.... pregame threads that is.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?102839-NDSU-vs-Georgia-Southern-Semifinals

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?125793-Georgia-Southern-North-Dakota-State

Nearly 5,000 posts between the two.

I have them saved, and every once in awhile I go through and read them with a smile.

[Bisonator]

We had some classics.... pregame threads that is.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?102839-NDSU-vs-Georgia-Southern-Semifinals

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?125793-Georgia-Southern-North-Dakota-State

Nearly 5,000 posts between the two.
I think my first post on AGS is buried in that first one. Good times!

[TheKingpin28]

Bison fans have more heated engagements with each other than anyone else.

I like getting neg rep from lakesbisonclown on BV every time I mention PJ Fleck is a used car salesman and will not do jack squat at U of M....xlolx

But you're not wrong tho. As long as Mark Coyle is in charge, I see nothing good coming of it.

[jacksfan29]

Give me a break.

There hasn't been one Bison on this thread being a douche. Are we confident? Sure we are as a group and if USD beats the Bison then everyone of us will be on here tipping our hats to them.

This is true. Bison fans will crucify their head coach but they will give credit to San Diego. The only team Bison fans won't give credit to for beating them... SDSU, and I guess UNI also.

[cx500d]

This is true. Bison fans will crucify their head coach but they will give credit to San Diego. The only team Bison fans won't give credit to for beating them... SDSU, and I guess UNI also.
Not true....SDSU whooped our ass...No other way to put it.

[Bison56]

This is true. Bison fans will crucify their head coach but they will give credit to San Diego. The only team Bison fans won't give credit to for beating them... SDSU, and I guess UNI also.

Who asked you?:D

[Southern Bison]

POD gets to share a seat with the Tuba playerHEY!!

The tuba players are the best of the band!!

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[Southern Bison]

A


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat is some fantastic insight! Will you expand on it at the watch party on Saturday? 😂

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[Bisonoline]

This is true. Bison fans will crucify their head coach but they will give credit to San Diego. The only team Bison fans won't give credit to for beating them... SDSU, and I guess UNI also.

You are wrong.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

This is true. Bison fans will crucify their head coach but they will give credit to San Diego. The only team Bison fans won't give credit to for beating them... SDSU, and I guess UNI also.


Nice try but a huge fail on this....xeyebrowx

[dewey]

This is true. Bison fans will crucify their head coach but they will give credit to San Diego. The only team Bison fans won't give credit to for beating them... SDSU, and I guess UNI also.

Really? NDSU fans didn't give SDSU credit for beating them this year in Brookings? I give a lot of credit to SDSU for that touchdown clinching drive in the 4th quarter. When they absolutely needed a TD drive to end the game they got the job done and the NDUS defense couldn't stop them.

Do we also look at the mistakes that NDSU made along the way and wonder what could have been had those mistakes not been made/forced? Of course we do and everyone does.

Dewey

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

NDSU 42-10

[dewey]

My guess
NDSU 31
San Diego 13

Dewey

[dewey]

Freaking playoffs GAMEDAY!

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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

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[NDSUtk]

The white chicken chili is ready for tailgating!!

Any USD posters make it up?? Would love to share a cocktail with you this morning

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[caribbeanhen]

Let's see now,
San Diego already played in the Fargo Dome last year
San Diego destroyed a BigSky team, N Arizona last week, N Arizona did not look playoff worthy to me
The same shaky Bigsky team beat MFVC Blow up doll Illinois State 37-16 back in week 5,

Is there a chariot race scheduled before the game? how about a staged sea battle? speaking of sea battles is this why San Diego, home of the navy fleet, is sent to Mid-western coliseum each year in the annual slaughter? The ancient Romans did this, appears they have decedent's on the committee

San Diego is a scrappy team with some talent in spots, is there anyway the San Diego Generals can make this playoff farce a close game?

nah, Bison by 21

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

The white chicken chili is ready for tailgating!!

Any USD posters make it up?? Would love to share a cocktail with you this morning

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Nice weather for tailgating in early December.....xthumbsupx

[NDSUtk]

Nice weather for tailgating in early December.....xthumbsupxHell yes it is!! 23 degrees already and on its way to 40+ before game time!! And wind is supposed to stay down. Can't beat this.

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[FUGameBreaker]

Cheers, one of you guys gets to tangle with the socon next, looking forward to finding out the results of this one

[ElCid]

NDSU 42-10

My guess was 41-10. 😀

[X-Factor]

My guess was 41-10. 😀

Could be. Although I bet USD keeps it real close for a half. Wouldn’t even be surprised if we went to halftime tied

[Southern Bison]

The Bison handle the SoCal surfers and get ready for the SoCon next week.

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Lil' SB celebrated his 13th birthday with ESPN this morning!

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"Gator" saw us there...played DE in '78 for Pat Simmers.

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[dewey]

The Bison handle the SoCal surfers and get ready for the SoCon next week.

Lil' SB celebrated his 13th birthday

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Happy birthday to your son and great job flying the Bison flag!

Dewey

[dewey]

NDSU to kickoff.

San Diego to start at their own 25.

Go Bison!

Dewey

[dewey]

Big TFL by Nate Tanguay!

Dewey

[dewey]

Good stop on 3rd down by NDSU.

Dewey

[dewey]

NDSU ball at their own 17.

Dewey

[cx500d]

gee, crowding the box for $500, Alex

[dewey]

Nice play action pass to TE Jensen. 41 yards to USD 40.

Dewey

[dewey]

1st down at the USD 28.

Dewey

[dewey]

Stick to Illies. 2nd down and 2 at the 20.

Dewey

[cx500d]

yep...if they are going to crowd the box, the play action works well.

[dewey]

Touchdown Bison!

Play action Stick on the seam route to true freshman Wilson.

Dewey

[Lorne_Malvo]

Touchdown Bison!

Play action Stick on the seam route to true freshman Wilson.

Dewey

Happy for the freshman!

[dewey]

Stick is on target early and the NDSU OC is taking advantage of USD loading the box.

7 play 82 yard drive for the touchdown!

Dewey

[dewey]

Happy for the freshman!

Absolutely! Nice catch by him.

Dewey

[IBleedYellow]

Easton. Stick.

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[dewey]

Stick on the read option. TOUCHDOWN!

Nifty 51 yard run.

NDSU 14 USD 0.

NDSU looks really good.

Dewey

[Trapper..]

Our defense too slow. Poor tackling.


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