South Dakota @ Sam Houston State (2nd Round)

[JSUSoutherner]

Let the flame war begin! :D

[cx500d]

Not much to flame....USD exposed today.

[mmiller_34]

I voted for SHSU.

[TheKingpin28]

Can both lose, but mainly the Novembrist SHSU fans go away for another 11 months or longer this time? xnodx

[CappinHard]

SHSU might put up 70. Total should easily go over 100. I'll be interested to see what 5dimes has for a total.

[BEAR]

Sam by 21....

Sam 56
SD 35

[BEAR]

Wait....will we see 2 SLC teams as favorites in the second round after another SLC team gave a good showing? Maybe the SLC isn't that bad after all...

[katss07]

USD was exposed today by Nicholls. SHSU shouldn’t have an issue with anything. Maybe Strevler will give us a problem, but I like our chances.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I'm taking USD.

[POD Knows]

Wait....will we see 2 SLC teams as favorites in the second round after another SLC team gave a good showing? Maybe the SLC isn't that bad after all...
You are better than the OVC. A lot better.

[Daytripper]

A lot of scoring, but I think the Bearkats have too much offense and enough defense to pull it out. But you never know.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

I think SHSU rolls!

[Daytripper]

You are better than the OVC. A lot better.

I appreciate your objectivity.

[NDSUtk]

I think Sam wins. Streveler being banged up and the two trips from the top of the country to the bottom wear on USD. I'm still going to pull for USD however!

[Bisonator]

Not sure who wins but it'll be a shootout for sure. Neither team has shown much of a defense this season.

[Bison56]

I'm taking SHSU, Strevler doesn't look as good as he did earlier.

[Prime Power]

SHSU by 3......TD's.

[IBleedYellow]

First to 60 wins.

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[BEAR]

First to 60 wins.

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You only need one win in this game...:D

[Theee Catrabbit]

I vote USD, I think they pull the upset. And I hate USD, so obviously they'll win.....for spite.

[CockyGeek]

I think Lesser Dakota scrapes by again.

[Kemo]

How do I root for the MVFC and against USD?

I don’t want to disappoint anyone.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

How do I root for the MVFC and against USD?

I don’t want to disappoint anyone.


I'll always cheer against UND.....always....xnodx:D

[cx500d]

How do I root for the MVFC and against USD?

I don’t want to disappoint anyone.

Pick UNI next week.

[Bisonoline]

I'll always cheer against UND.....always....xnodx:D

xnodxxsmileyclapx

[Lorne_Malvo]

Yotes. They had a very poor performance today (still props to Nicholls).

[Daytripper]

Yotes. They had a very poor performance today (still props to Nicholls).

It's always a "poor performance" by a MVFC team when thing don't go as planned. Never, ever, can a team from another conference actually play well. It's condescension at its best..

[Bisonoline]

It's always a "poor performance" by a MVFC team when thing don't go as planned. Never, ever, can a team from another conference actually play well. It's condescension at it best..

Nobody said it wasnt caused by the other teams play.xthumbsupx

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

It's always a "poor performance" by a MVFC team when thing don't go as planned. Never, ever, can a team from another conference actually play well. It's condescension at its best..


You are a broken record all the time....xrolleyesx

[beerkat]

Who knows which SHSU team will show up. I could easily see the Kats getting a big lead early, letting off the gas and then by the 3rd quarter South Dakota is back in the game. Then it comes down to who can get it done in the 4th. First team to 50 wins, but the loser will probably score in the 40's as well.

[cx500d]

I don't see South Dakota in this game after the 1st quarter unless they get a new defense in the next week.

[Bisonwinagn]

USD was exposed today by Nicholls. SHSU shouldn’t have an issue with anything. Maybe Strevler will give us a problem, but I like our chances.

What was exposed?

[cx500d]

What was exposed?


That their defense is a hot mess

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

This is only 4 pages so far?

Have some work to do.....xlolx

[Bisonwinagn]

That their defense is a hot mess

Everyone knows that so how was that exposed? They were also 3-3 on the road before today. Nothing is new this has been known for 8 weeks.

[katss07]

What was exposed?

Their team as a whole. No more excuses about the MVFC being “too good”. The 4th best SLC went blow for blow with them tonight.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Their team as a whole. No more excuses about the MVFC being “too good”. The 4th best SLC went blow for blow with them tonight.


Well, USD tied for 5th in the Valley with 2 other teams....xrolleyesx

[TheKingpin28]

Their team as a whole. No more excuses about the MVFC being “too good”. The 4th best SLC went blow for blow with them tonight.

They were the 6th in the Valley. What did you really expect?

[JSUSoutherner]

Their team as a whole. No more excuses about the MVFC being “too good”. The 4th best SLC went blow for blow with them tonight.

But was it a #QualityLoss?

[katss07]

They were the 6th in the Valley. What did you really expect?

I expected Streveler to be a God. Thats what MVFC people made him out to be. And now that they aren’t playing well, they just aren’t that good.

[mmiller_34]

I expected Streveler to be a God. Thats what MVFC people made him out to be. And now that they aren’t playing well, they just aren’t that good.

He is a Demi-God, and he was without his golden "it" factor today.

He lost it against Illinois State and hasn't found it since.

[JSUSoutherner]

I expected Streveler to be a God. Thats what MVFC people made him out to be. And now that they aren’t playing well, they just aren’t that good.

I thought Streveler had himself a day. 412 yards of offense and 4 TDs?

He was great. His team blew chunks.

[cx500d]

I thought Streveler had himself a day. 412 yards of offense and 4 TDs?

He was great. His team blew chunks.

He was off his game...

[centennial]

I thought Streveler had himself a day. 412 yards of offense and 4 TDs?

He was great. His team blew chunks.

412 yards, 4TDs is good. The RB's laid an egg. If they had an okay game USD would have dominated. I really don't understand though, basically Nichols took away the run and let him throw all over them.

[NDSUtk]

I expected Streveler to be a God. Thats what MVFC people made him out to be. And now that they aren’t playing well, they just aren’t that good.

Well, he did out perform Briscoe against Nicholls...does that make him a God because I've heard how Briscoe is like the best QB ever.

Briscoe: 23/36 (63.9%) for 305 yards (8.5 YPA), 3 TDs
Streveler: 25/37 (67.5%) for 378 yards (10.2 YPA), 4 TDs

[Katfan]

Well, he did out perform Briscoe against Nicholls...does that make him a God because I've heard how Briscoe is like the best QB ever.

Briscoe: 23/36 (63.9%) for 305 yards (8.5 YPA), 3 TDs
Streveler: 25/37 (67.5%) for 378 yards (10.2 YPA), 4 TDs
Yeah Briscoe didn’t play well that day.

[TheKingpin28]

I expected Streveler to be a God. Thats what MVFC people made him out to be. And now that they aren’t playing well, they just aren’t that good.

Yeah going 25/37 for 378 and 4TDs while practically carrying the team the entire season is pretty good for the 6th best team. Hate all you want, but that is a hell of a line against a top 40 defense.

[TheKingpin28]

Yeah Briscoe didn’t play well that day.

Neither did Streveler as he is the leading rusher for his team as well.



RUSHING
GP-GS
Att
Gain
Loss
Net
Avg
TD
Long
Avg/G




Streveler 12-12
153
803
134
669
4.4
10
46
55.8

[katss07]

I thought Streveler had himself a day. 412 yards of offense and 4 TDs?

He was great. His team blew chunks.

I guess he did have a great day. Really overshadowed by his team’s play. Nicholls had no business being in that game. 3 picks in USD territory? Fourcade gave the Coyotes a few gifts.

We beat Nicholls 66-17. Our offense scored more on the Nicholls defense than they did (much more). I also think our defense is better than USD’s. If Briscoe is playing well and our defense is playing at least decent, we should blow out USD. I’m not going to lie, our defense is average at best, but if we limit Streveler’s running and force him to throw, I love our chances. He is a good passer, but he hurts defenses more on the ground. If I were to make a prediction right now I would say Kats win 52-35 or something like that. Streveler will hurt us, be we should score at will. Don’t be offended MVFC people, just IMHO.

[Serpentor]

Let the flame war begin! :D

"There's no war here... unless you've brought it with you."

[cx500d]

I guess he did have a great day. Really overshadowed by his team’s play. Nicholls had no business being in that game. 3 picks in USD territory? Fourcade gave the Coyotes a few gifts.

We beat Nicholls 66-17. Our offense scored more on the Nicholls defense than they did (much more). I also think our defense is better than USD’s. If Briscoe is playing well and our defense is playing at least decent, we should blow out USD. I’m not going to lie, our defense is average at best, but if we limit Streveler’s running and force him to throw, I love our chances. He is a good passer, but he hurts defenses more on the ground. If I were to make a prediction right now I would say Kats win 52-35 or something like that. Streveler will hurt us, be we should score at will. Don’t be offended MVFC people, just IMHO.

No offense, I think its reasonable.

[JSUSoutherner]

He was off his game...
If that was "off his game" SHSU better hope he doesn't find it this week.

He might actually make Briscoe **** himself with jealousy.

[Daytripper]

If that was "off his game" SHSU better hope he doesn't find it this week.

He might actually make Briscoe **** himself with jealousy.


I think you need to be worried about Kennesaw State.....

[katss07]

If that was "off his game" SHSU better hope he doesn't find it this week.

He might actually make Briscoe **** himself with jealousy.

When will this dude get “on his game”? Its been a while. I’m not convinced this guy is as good as everyone thinks.

[JSUSoutherner]

I think you need to be worried about Kennesaw State.....

Why?

[Serpentor]

If that was "off his game" SHSU better hope he doesn't find it this week.

He might actually make Briscoe **** himself with jealousy.

Shouldn't you be on your own thread talking up your overrated KFC team?

[cx500d]

If that was "off his game" SHSU better hope he doesn't find it this week.

He might actually make Briscoe **** himself with jealousy.


I think he has to be injured.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Shouldn't you be on your own thread talking up your overrated KFC team?


Why?

You Sammy guys are the smartest guys on here....

[JSUSoutherner]

Shouldn't you be on your own thread talking up your overrated KFC team?
KSU has like two posters. Pretty much all that needs to be said in that thread has been said.

Hope you guys make it to come see us. xthumbsupx

[Serpentor]

Why?

You Sammy guys are the smartest guys on here....

Bison fans, like cancer, have to spread to every thread, it seems.

[Serpentor]

KSU has like two posters. Pretty much all that needs to be said in that thread has been said.

Hope you guys make it to come see us. xthumbsupx

I'll admit, that would be fun.

[BearKatProud]

You Sammy guys are the smartest guys on here....


So true.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Bison fans, like cancer, have to spread to every thread, it seems.


To bad for you junior....

[Bisonoline]

Bison fans, like cancer, have to spread to every thread, it seems.

Start your own website.

[cx500d]

Start your own website.


I have an account on Katfans also...

[Daytripper]

I have an account on Katfans also...

We have quite a few fans from other teams/conferences on katfans, unlike Bisonville which is an inbred cluster****.

[katss07]

Bison fans, like cancer, have to spread to every thread, it seems.

You know how it works: Either your a fan of a MVFC team, or you don’t know ****!

[Bisonoline]

Bison fans, like cancer, have to spread to every thread, it seems.

Guess how many you have posted in??????????xrolleyesx

[Coyote Fan]

Not much to flame....USD exposed today.

USD was exposed long before today. Today was just an extension of that.

[cx500d]

We have quite a few fans from other teams/conferences on katfans, unlike Bisonville which is an inbred cluster****.

Can't argue with you there

[centennial]

You know how it works: Either your a fan of a MVFC team, or you don’t know ****!

This is true.

[Serpentor]

Guess how many you have posted in??????????xrolleyesx

3?

[Bisonoline]

3?

xlolx

[CappinHard]

Bison fans, like cancer, have to spread to every thread, it seems.

I kind of hope Sammy and NDSU meet in the semifinals just to see how many pages that thread would get up to.

[katss07]

I kind of hope Sammy and NDSU meet in the semifinals just to see how many pages that thread would get up to.

It would be somewhere around 80 before the game even started.

[Kemo]

Bison fans, like cancer, have to spread to every thread, it seems.

I'm the treatment for Bison cancer.

[UNHWildcat18]

Sam Houston’s OC gone after this season. Hope Keeler can find a good replacement

[Redbird 4th & short]

No offense, I think its reasonable.
His run option is no longer the threat it was. And he's likely still throwing with a swollen hand. If he doesn't run, the option is much less potent. Someone else said it .. he hasn't been same since we put a beating on him. The next game he left game after his first run play ... for a reason. And it is not likely that he will get healthy during playoffs. Between that and the suspensions of 2 starting DBs.. can't see them beating SHSU .. Will be high scoring game but likely a loss for USD.

Congrats to Nichols state for hanging tough but you didn't face a 100% Streveler .. and we said as much before the game.

[caribbeanhen]

Not much to flame....USD exposed today.

I thought they were exposed before this game yesterday actually

[POD Knows]

We have quite a few fans from other teams/conferences on katfans, unlike Bisonville which is an inbred cluster****.
I am not on Bisonville but there are a fair amount of SDSU/UND and Yote posters on there. But cluster**** is a pretty good description.

[Daytripper]

Sam Houston’s OC gone after this season. Hope Keeler can find a good replacement

Please elaborate....

[UNHWildcat18]

Please elaborate....

Chip kelly is at UCLA now, he needs an OC. Cramsey worked under him at UNH. Book it

[Daytripper]

Chip kelly is at UCLA now, he needs an OC. Cramsey worked under him at UNH. Book it

Hmmm.. Interesting. That is a good possibility. We'll see.

[katstrapper]

Sam Houston’s OC gone after this season. Hope Keeler can find a good replacement

Heck, Keeler may be gone after this season... SHSU AD is a jackass.

I think Cramsey opens the playbook for this game. I feel like they have been holding back since UCA game.

I watched that game yesterday and would say that Streveler is good, but I didn't think he was the QB god that so many are making him out to be. However, Kat D will have to come to play on Saturday and cant give up too many big plays.

SD offensive line will have to deal with PJ Hall, Derrick Roberson and Justin Johnson up front.

Should be a good game.

[caribbeanhen]

Sammy should be able to deflate the most recent Valley fan blow up doll,

Richmond better than South Dakota and we saw what Sammy did to Richmond...

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

Sammy should be able to deflate the most recent Valley fan blow up doll,

Richmond better than South Dakota and we saw what Sammy did to Richmond...

I think SD is in trouble too. SHSU has preformed well in in the playoffs for the most part. When they lost it's been with a thud but that's been on the road against elite teams. The Bearkats are going to light up the scoreboard. SD will score but it won't be close to enough. 59-35'ish

[Redbird 4th & short]

Sammy should be able to deflate the most recent Valley fan blow up doll,

Richmond better than South Dakota and we saw what Sammy did to Richmond...
Is Richmond also better than UNH ? Same UNH that beat CCSU with backup QB by just 14 .. thanks to late score. Same CCSU that 7th place YSU beat by 50 when they had their starting QB.

USD issues have been rehashed. Granted they depend too heavily on Streveler on offense but they also had notable hits to their defense. Have to wonder if they platoon next game .. their back up is pretty good.

[caribbeanhen]

Is Richmond also better than UNH ?.

I would say yes

[Sammy94]

Sam Houston’s OC gone after this season. Hope Keeler can find a good replacement

He did a good job last season but whose to say Keeler will still be here?

[katss07]

He did a good job last season but whose to say Keeler will still be here?

I hear that if Keeler were to leave, Longo would be a front runner for the HC job.

I’m not worried about KC leaving, he is an FCS guy. Cramsey could go, but I doubt that too. Only one year as the OC of this team. I think Keeler is here for the foreseeable future. Cramsey won’t be here for more than a few years IMO. He will get hired to coach elsewhere.

[JSUSoutherner]

Keeler to TAMU.

Watch.

[katss07]

I think SD is in trouble too. SHSU has preformed well in in the playoffs for the most part. When they lost it's been with a thud but that's been on the road against elite teams. The Bearkats are going to light up the scoreboard. SD will score but it won't be close to enough. 59-35'ish

Yes, when SHSU losses, it is to a very good team. 2011, 2012 losses in the NC game. 2013 was the only year we have lost to a team that has not at least made the title game, and that 2013 team lost to a good Southeastern Louisiana team. SHSU has made a few quarterfinal runs as a 7-4 SLC team. We can beat the teams in the first and second rounds. But if you send us to Fargo or JMU in the semis, expect a blowout.

SD is in trouble. A common opponent is sometimes not the best judge of things but Sammy beat Nicholls 66-17. Our offense scored nearly two times what USD’s offense did, and Briscoe was having a bad day! Receivers bailed him out. South Dakota won a 38-31 game, was arguably out played and Nicholls had 4 turnovers! Now they have to come to Huntsville with an injured star QB and a weak defense? I think our D will give up points, but will make the necessary stops and keep Streveler limited. PJ Hall is a beast and the USD O-Line had trouble with Nicholls. Now think about what will happen when a top 10 FCS defensive end is their opponent.

My prediction is 52-35, as I think USD will hang around a bit. But I could see the Kats blowing them out.

[Daytripper]

Keeler to TAMU.

Watch.

Aggies would burn College Station to the ground..... You're joking, right?

[JSUSoutherner]

Aggies would burn College Station to the ground..... You're joking, right?
When's the last time TAMU ever made a decision the Aggie fans liked? :D

[TheKingpin28]

When's the last time TAMU ever made a decision the Aggie fans liked? :D

Johnny Football, coke, and the Heisman...

[Daytripper]

When's the last time TAMU ever made a decision the Aggie fans liked? :D

They have the heart set on Jimbo Fisher. Or SMU's Chad Morris. Keeler is getting looks from lower level G5 teams, at best.

[katss07]

They have the heart set on Jimbo Fisher. Or SMU's Chad Morris. Keeler is getting looks from lower level G5 teams, at best.

If KC is going to get hired away, he will go to a Sun Belt or lower tier Mountain West schools.

[Daytripper]

If KC is going to get hired away, he will go to a Sun Belt or lower tier Mountain West schools.

That's what I said, in so many words...xsmiley_wix

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

If KC is going to get hired away, he will go to a Sun Belt or lower tier Mountain West schools.

Not trying to be a homer but if he didn't take/or show serious interest in the Temple gig (home area, low pressure, can win) then I don't see him leaving Huntsville anytime soon. Temple would have been the perfect FBS gig for him. With that said, Collins name has popped up for the Mississippi State opening (worked with Mullens as their DC) so maybe we'll be looking for another coach. The whole thing is a joke...

I could maybe see him leaving for a coordinator position with a veteran HC at the FBS level. Odd are though he stays in Hunstville.

[Daytripper]

Not trying to be a homer but if he didn't take/or show serious interest in the Temple gig (home area, low pressure, can win) then I don't see him leaving Huntsville anytime soon. Temple would have been the perfect FBS gig for him. With that said, Collins name has popped up for the Mississippi State opening (worked with Mullens as their DC) so maybe we'll be looking for another coach. The whole thing is a joke...

I could maybe see him leaving for a coordinator position with a veteran HC at the FBS level. Odd are though he stays in Hunstville.

He won't become a coordinator for anybody. He's a CEO coach. Who knows when was the last time he called an offensive or defensive game...? He will leave if he gets an offer that pays substantially more than SHSU (which won't be difficult). He's not young anymore and only has a few more contracts left....

Watch out for the UTEP opening..

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

He won't become a coordinator for anybody. He's a CEO coach. Who knows when was the last time he called an offensive or defensive game...? He will leave if he gets an offer that pays substantially more than SHSU (which won't be difficult). He's not young anymore and only has a few more contracts left....

Watch out for the UTEP opening..

I get the CEO part. I was even going to say a consultant role with a NFL team or high level FBS program with a veteran coach. He doesn't want to deal with the BS. He just wants to do his thing and be left alone.

[TennBison]

I expected Streveler to be a God. Thats what MVFC people made him out to be. And now that they aren’t playing well, they just aren’t that good.
My thoughts exactly, I never thought they should have made it to the playoffs. They lost 4 of their last 5 and are a hot mess. MVFC should have only had 4 teams make it, USD was lucky to get in.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

My thoughts exactly, I never thought they should have made it to the playoffs. They lost 4 of their last 5 and are a hot mess. MVFC should have only had 4 teams make it, USD was lucky to get in.


Maybe so but they still went on the road and won the game.

[FargoBison]

I expected Streveler to be a God. Thats what MVFC people made him out to be. And now that they aren’t playing well, they just aren’t that good.

Streveler is probably the best QB in the FCS but with the way he was being used it was always going to be tough for him to stay healthy, he still isn't quite right but the guy pulled them through. USD's real issue is their defense, Streveler can only do so much.

I expect SHSU to win by 17 or so.

[FargoBison]

My thoughts exactly, I never thought they should have made it to the playoffs. They lost 4 of their last 5 and are a hot mess. MVFC should have only had 4 teams make it, USD was lucky to get in.

USD was worthy, they won on the road and looked better then multiple other at-large teams. Monmouth was destroyed and NAU didn't even show up.

[katss07]

Maybe so but they still went on the road and won the game.

Yes they did. But look at common opponent between SHSU and USD. Nicholls lost to the Bearkats by 49 points. USD beat Nicholls by 7. SHSU has a better offense when Streveler is fully healthy. Kats are CLEARLY the better offense if Streveler is at 70 or 80%. The Kats defense gave up significantly less points to Nicholls than USD did. The Colonels should have had at least two more touchdowns last Saturday. Fourcade’s bad play didn’t help. 3 picks? Come on dude, its the playoffs! So if Streveler isn’t still fully healthy (I don’t expect him to be, he was hit hard Saturday), I expect SHSU to beat USD.

Also, lets be real. Playing at Nicholls in round one isn’t as tough as playing at Sam Houston in round two.

[TennBison]

Maybe so but they still went on the road and won the game.
That is my point, I thought that Nicholls should have won, and in spite of limping their way into the playoffs by sliding in backwards, hurt QB, no defense, they still won the game.

[TennBison]

Yes they did. But look at common opponent between SHSU and USD. Nicholls lost to the Bearkats by 49 points. USD beat Nicholls by 7. SHSU has a better offense when Streveler is fully healthy. Kats are CLEARLY the better offense if Streveler is at 70 or 80%. The Kats defense gave up significantly less points to Nicholls than USD did. The Colonels should have had at least two more touchdowns last Saturday. Fourcade’s bad play didn’t help. 3 picks? Come on dude, its the playoffs! So if Streveler isn’t still fully healthy (I don’t expect him to be, he was hit hard Saturday), I expect SHSU to beat USD.

Also, lets be real. Playing at Nicholls in round one isn’t as tough as playing at Sam Houston in round two.
You got that right, and for sure it isn't as hard as playing round 3 at JMU(2016), or round four at JSU(2015).xthumbsupx

[Yotes21]

Katss didn't you pick USD to lose? In that case they out performed your expectations.

[Bison56]

Katss didn't you pick USD to lose? In that case they out performed your expectations.

He is the FCS guru.

[centennial]

Keeler to TAMU.

Watch.

This I cannot see happening.

[UpstateBison]

If SHSU does not beat USD, what an embarrassment to the Southland! Streveler is the best player in the FCS but the Yotes are a mess. You are the #6 seed, you should win by 17+ at home. Take care of business. Pretty simple.


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[Daytripper]

If SHSU does not beat USD, what an embarrassment to the Southland! Streveler is the best player in the FCS but the Yotes are a mess. You are the #6 seed, you should win by 17+ at home. Take care of business. Pretty simple.


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If we do win, MVFC will continue to make excuses (Streveler was injured!) and argue that the second to last Valley team would win every other FCS conference in the nation....

[JSUSoutherner]

If we do win, MVFC will continue to make excuses (Streveler was injured!) and argue that the second to last Valley team would win every other FCS conference in the nation....
It's almost like you can see the future. :D

[Daytripper]

It's almost like you can see the future. :D

Just basing it on extensive past experience.....xnodx

[ElCid]

If we do win, MVFC will continue to make excuses (Streveler was injured!) and argue that the second to last Valley team would win every other FCS conference in the nation....

This is too funny for words.

[JSUSoutherner]

If we do win, MVFC will continue to make excuses (Streveler was injured!) and argue that the second to last Valley team would win every other FCS conference in the nation....

Also,

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171127/bff39167bc086a94966241e127e1d699.jpg

[centennial]

If we do win, MVFC will continue to make excuses (Streveler was injured!) and argue that the second to last Valley team would win every other FCS conference in the nation....

This should be an easy win, especially if you believe the polls and not the computers. It would be an embarrassment to lose to USD.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

This should be an easy win, especially if you believe the polls and not the computers. It would be an embarrassment to lose to USD.


With both defenses being suspect, the first one to 40 or 50 will win.

[katss07]

With both defenses being suspect, the first one to 40 or 50 will win.

I don’t know, if Strevler plays like he did against Nicholls, USD may only score 28ish points. If they only score that much, I like our chances.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I don’t know, if Strevler plays like he did against Nicholls, USD may only score 28ish points. If they only score that much, I like our chances.


USD gives up 389 yards/game and Sammy 418 yards/game....neither are a poster boy for being called a good defense.

This game will probably be a track meet and actually would be fun to watch.

Yes, I agree....if one team only scores 28, they will probably lose.


** Actually Sammy had a very good defense when NDSU played them in the 1st championship game.....what the heck happened since then?

[BNATION]

Stoker happened, we had a real D coordinator who emphasized the basics. since then our D coordinator job has been a dumpster fire. We have the players just don't have the coach.


USD gives up 389 yards/game and Sammy 418 yards/game....neither are a poster boy for being called a good defense.

This game will probably be a track meet and actually would be fun to watch.

Yes, I agree....if one team only scores 28, they will probably lose.


** Actually Sammy had a very good defense when NDSU played them in the 1st championship game.....what the heck happened since then?

[caribbeanhen]

last team with the ball wins, should be a very entertaining game

The truth is we don't really know if Sammy has a better Defense than South Dakota, this could be a 59-52 type of game

but Sammy pulls it out at home

[Professor Chaos]

I think SHSU's defense gets a few stops and USD's defense gets no stops. SHSU 63, USD 42. Around 1200 yards of combined total offense. Something like SHSU 650, USD 550.

[BNATION]

I agree, SD is very one dimensional, no running game, SHSU does do both contrary to popular belief, I think SHSU rushes for 250 and this game is 52-31.


I think SHSU's defense gets a few stops and USD's defense gets no stops. SHSU 63, USD 42. Around 1200 yards of combined total offense. Something like SHSU 650, USD 550.

[POD Knows]

If we do win, MVFC will continue to make excuses (Streveler was injured!) and argue that the second to last Valley team would win every other FCS conference in the nation....Who the hell on this board, who supports the MVFC, is stating that USD is a better team than SHSU, most of the posters think that USD backed into the playoffs and will get their asses handed to them. I know that there were expectations of a bigger win by USD over Nicholls (not me, I picked Nicholls) but they won and I haven't seen a lot of excuses for their narrow victory other than the fact that the USD defense sucks balls.

[BNATION]

POD you are a reasonable guy, alot of Southland guys just think its comical that some, and I say some MVFC guys think teams like McNeese, SELA, UCA, SHSU, and Nicholls this year could not compete in the MVFC and it just isn't so. Top to bottom I agree the MVFC is very tough, but when posters from your conference say that MSU could mop up McNeese it just gets comical. I agree the game this weekend shouldnt be overly competitive, if SHSU is smart they will just run it down their throats. Hope we can get by JSU and make another trip up to the dome. I will buy my ticket if that happens.


Who the hell on this board, who supports the MVFC, is stating that USD is a better team than SHSU, most of the posters think that USD backed into the playoffs and will get their asses handed to them. I know that there were expectations of a bigger win by USD over Nicholls (not me, I picked Nicholls) but they won and I haven't seen a lot of excuses for their narrow victory other than the fact that the USD defense sucks balls.

[UNIFanSince1983]

I think SHSU dominates this game. They have a hell of an offense. USD has been coasting on fumes recently and maybe shouldn't even have made it this far.

SHSU 49
USD 24

[Yotes21]

Call the game off... USD has no chance.

[POD Knows]

POD you are a reasonable guy, alot of Southland guys just think its comical that some, and I say some MVFC guys think teams like McNeese, SELA, UCA, SHSU, and Nicholls this year could not compete in the MVFC and it just isn't so. Top to bottom I agree the MVFC is very tough, but when posters from your conference say that MSU could mop up McNeese it just gets comical. I agree the game this weekend shouldnt be overly competitive, if SHSU is smart they will just run it down their throats. Hope we can get by JSU and make another trip up to the dome. I will buy my ticket if that happens.The MVFC currently is the best and deepest conference at the FCS level but I have no illusions that the bottom third of our conference would bitch slap any of the top teams in the other conferences. I think the Southland get banged a little because of how bad SHSU has exited the Championship as of late. The Southland, in my opinion, is up this year and is a lot stronger conference than the OVC/NEC/Patriot/Big South/PL and maybe even the BSC but you do have a lot of disparity between the "haves" and "have nots" in the SLC. There aren't as many cupcakes as the OVC has but it is pretty close.

Anyway, I expect SHSU to put a beating on USD and then have a tough game against JSU.

[BNATION]

Agree, JSU is interesting to me, I wonder if they are as good as advertised...They played a lot of "decent" teams pretty close. Will be interesting and if they give more than 10 which i think they will based on how bad Vegas is on FCS games i will slam it!


The MVFC currently is the best and deepest conference at the FCS level but I have no illusions that the bottom third of our conference would bitch slap any of the top teams in the other conferences. I think the Southland get banged a little because of how bad SHSU has exited the Championship as of late. The Southland, in my opinion, is up this year and is a lot stronger conference than the OVC/NEC/Patriot/Big South/PL and maybe even the BSC but you do have a lot of disparity between the "haves" and "have nots" in the SLC. There aren't as many cupcakes as the OVC has but it is pretty close.

Anyway, I expect SHSU to put a beating on USD and then have a tough game against JSU.

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Where are all the Yote fans??????

[JSUSoutherner]

Agree, JSU is interesting to me, I wonder if they are as good as advertised...They played a lot of "decent" teams pretty close. Will be interesting and if they give more than 10 which i think they will based on how bad Vegas is on FCS games i will slam it!



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Where are all the Yote fans??????

Same.


Who the hell on this board, who supports the MVFC, is stating that USD is a better team than SHSU, most of the posters think that USD backed into the playoffs and will get their asses handed to them. I know that there were expectations of a bigger win by USD over Nicholls (not me, I picked Nicholls) but they won and I haven't seen a lot of excuses for their narrow victory other than the fact that the USD defense sucks balls.

Anymore? No one. Before Nicholls exposed them? A lot.

[Gil Dobie]

SHSU might put up 70. Total should easily go over 100. I'll be interested to see what 5dimes has for a total.

First one to 70 wins.

[Bison56]

I think USD runs out of gas and gets blown out.

[beerkat]

Call the game off... USD has no chance.

This is starting off like last week when everyone said Nicholls had no chance.

[Daytripper]

I think USD runs out of gas and gets blown out.

Two pretty long back-to-back road trips south can't help their cause either.... Sam will do what Sam does...jump out to a big lead and let USD back in it. Hopefully, they can get enough stops in the 4th to hold on.....

[BNATION]

My thoughts exactly, I do think how incredibly one dimensional they are, and the fact we got a good look at them with a conference foe will really lean the game in SHSU favor. Something does creep up my neck that this could be extremely lopsided, see the Nicholls game for reference...


Two pretty long back-to-back road trips south can't help their cause either.... Sam will do what Sam does...jump out to a big lead and let USD back in it. Hopefully, they can get enough stops in the 4th to hold on.....

[Professor Chaos]

My thoughts exactly, I do think how incredibly one dimensional they are, and the fact we got a good look at them with a conference foe will really lean the game in SHSU favor. Something does creep up my neck that this could be extremely lopsided, see the Nicholls game for reference...
I think you're putting a little too much stock in the Nicholls game calling them an incredibly one-dimensional offense. They're currently 25th in the FCS average 196.6 yards per game rushing. That's actually more rush yards per game than SHSU. Nicholls shut their run game down but I'd expect them to make some adjustments and run the ball better against SHSU this week. Still don't think it'll be enough for them to win though.

[JSUSoutherner]

I think you're putting a little too much stock in the Nicholls game calling them an incredibly one-dimensional offense. They're currently 25th in the FCS average 196.6 yards per game rushing. That's actually more rush yards per game than SHSU. Nicholls shut their run game down but I'd expect them to make some adjustments and run the ball better against SHSU this week. Still don't think it'll be enough for them to win though.

How much of that run game is a direct result of Streveler though?

[BNATION]

You may be right, but if you cant run on a Softland team who gave up, in conference play, 267, 258, 152, 151, 115, 110, 116, the fact that SD only rushed for 74 on 28, and streveler had 34, 28 on one broken play, tells me they will have a very tough time...


I think you're putting a little too much stock in the Nicholls game calling them an incredibly one-dimensional offense. They're currently 25th in the FCS average 196.6 yards per game rushing. That's actually more rush yards per game than SHSU. Nicholls shut their run game down but I'd expect them to make some adjustments and run the ball better against SHSU this week. Still don't think it'll be enough for them to win though.

[Professor Chaos]

How much of that run game is a direct result of Streveler though?
He only accounts for about a quarter of it at 669 of their 2349 rushing yards. Fredrick is their leading rusher with 694 yards and Henry is their 1a RB with 598 yards. Streveler did lead them in rush yards gained with 802 (the 134 yards lost is mostly sack yardage) but they have 3 capable runners including Streveler.

http://www.goyotes.com/cumestats.aspx?path=football&year=2017


You may be right, but if you cant run on a Softland team who gave up, in conference play, 267, 258, 152, 151, 115, 110, 116, the fact that SD only rushed for 74 on 28, and streveler had 34, 28 on one broken play, tells me they will have a very tough time...
Can't argue with that. I was very surprised to see Nicholls control USD's ground game like they did and if that happens again against SHSU it'll probably be bigger than the 21 point spread that I predicted.

[BNATION]

All that aside I would just like to see the SHSU D show up and play decent. I would do unspeakable things to have Stoker back coaching the defense.


He only accounts for about a quarter of it at 669 of their 2349 rushing yards. Fredrick is their leading rusher with 694 yards and Henry is their 1a RB with 598 yards. Streveler did lead them in rush yards gained with 802 (the 134 yards lost is mostly sack yardage) but they have 3 capable runners including Streveler.

http://www.goyotes.com/cumestats.aspx?path=football&year=2017


Can't argue with that. I was very surprised to see Nicholls control USD's ground game like they did and if that happens again against SHSU it'll probably be bigger than the 21 point spread that I predicted.

[CappinHard]

Wow... 5dimes has USD as a 5.5 point favorite. xeyebrowx

Total is at 82.5.

[BNATION]

Going to put all the bookie will allow if that is the case.


Wow... 5dimes has USD as a 5.5 point favorite. xeyebrowx

Total is at 82.5.

[CappinHard]

Going to put all the bookie will allow if that is the case.

Same.

[BNATION]

For FCS games my book doesnt usually get us lines until Thursday or Friday which sucks. Hope it doesnt move too far the other way.


Same.

[katss07]

Didn’t fivedimes have us as 5 point underdogs against UCA in last year’s conference championship game? Look how that turned out. :D

I’m expecting a 17 point Bearkats win, so I would be willin to bet some money on this one...

[CappinHard]

For FCS games my book doesnt usually get us lines until Thursday or Friday which sucks. Hope it doesnt move too far the other way.

Already down to 3... I think USD ends up underdogs within a few days, maybe less. That line was puzzling. Glad I hopped on it early.

[BEAR]

Massey has USD winning this at a 68% clip. 6 point win. xeyebrowx

[CappinHard]

Massey has USD winning this at a 68% clip. 6 point win. xeyebrowx

That's where the opening line is coming from. A product of the book not having time to put much effort to actually look at the match up and how teams have been playing recently.

[katss07]

This is why I don’t look at Massey or Sagarin. Nonsensical lines like these. USD could win this one, but I think the Kats are easily seen as the favorites. Afternoon home game in round two? Banged up star quarterback for USD? The way the Coyotes defense looked against NICHOLLS? I like our chances.

Poll at the top makes more sense to me. Kats 70%

[Professor Chaos]

This is why I don’t look at Massey or Sagarin. Nonsensical lines like these. USD could win this one, but I think the Kats are easily seen as the favorites. Afternoon home game in round two? Banged up star quarterback for USD? The way the Coyotes defense looked against NICHOLLS? I like our chances.

Poll at the top makes more sense to me. Kats 70%
I agree that SHSU should be favored in this game... probably by double digits but I find it ironic that Massey and Sagarin's projections both outperformed you (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?199266-2017-AGS-Playoff-Pick-em-Contest&p=2578487&viewfull=1#post2578487) in the playoff pick 'em so far. Maybe you should look at them. ;)

[katss07]

I agree that SHSU should be favored in this game... probably by double digits but I find it ironic that Massey and Sagarin's projections both outperformed you (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?199266-2017-AGS-Playoff-Pick-em-Contest&p=2578487&viewfull=1#post2578487) in the playoff pick 'em so far. Maybe you should look at them. ;)

Haha. They have me so far. I have a feeling I will get back on track this round. Shouldn’t have picked CCSU or Samford in round one. Those picks don’t look good.

[Serpentor]

I look forward to this game, I think it will be a good one.

[PantherRob82]

For FCS games my book doesnt usually get us lines until Thursday or Friday which sucks. Hope it doesnt move too far the other way.

Same here. I keep refreshing to smash this line.

[CappinHard]

Same here. I keep refreshing to smash this line.

Even odds now.

[katss07]

That changed quickly! Any ideas about what the odds may be like by Saturday morning?

[CappinHard]

That changed quickly! Any ideas about what the odds may be like by Saturday morning?

I'm guessing Sammy -3 or -4.

[F'N Hawks]

Use 5dimes. They are the best book and have everything you could ever want to to bet on.

[CappinHard]

Use 5dimes. They are the best book and have everything you could ever want to to bet on.

It can be a pain to get money out at times. Other than that, it's good. Real easy to put money in though... Convenient. xdrunkyx

[BNATION]

My bookie is smart man, by the time the game is up it will have swung 10 points against me.

[Howlingyote]

Maybe so but they still went on the road and won the game.

I was at the game. Several Nicholls fans told me that was the best game they played all year and we still came away with the victory. Our defensive play was disappointing in the second half, but also disappointed in our offense no capitalizing in the first half and blowing them off the field.

I wouldn't be so hasty in thinking we'll get crushed in Texas. We'll see...

[BNATION]

Hey we got a live one. they had 4 turnovers and fumbled going into the endzone to tie it up or go for 2 and the win. I think you would be hard pressed to find a Nicholls fan who knows football who thinks that was their best game of the year. PJ Hall and Chris Stewart are going to harass Strev, hope they consistently bring the house because the run game for SD is Putrid. 4 days...


I was at the game. Several Nicholls fans told me that was the best game they played all year and we still came away with the victory. Our defensive play was disappointing in the second half, but also disappointed in our offense no capitalizing in the first half and blowing them off the field.

I wouldn't be so hasty in thinking we'll get crushed in Texas. We'll see...

[Howlingyote]

Hey we got a live one. they had 4 turnovers and fumbled going into the endzone to tie it up or go for 2 and the win. I think you would be hard pressed to find a Nicholls fan who knows football who thinks that was their best game of the year. 4 days...

And we threw a pick 6 to put them back in the game in the first half. So your turnover argument falls flat with me.

[Sammy94]

Those Nichols fans must have not watched that A&M game, that was their best game all season.

[Katfan]

I was at the game. Several Nicholls fans told me that was the best game they played all year and we still came away with the victory. Our defensive play was disappointing in the second half, but also disappointed in our offense no capitalizing in the first half and blowing them off the field.

I wouldn't be so hasty in thinking we'll get crushed in Texas. We'll see...
This should be a good game. That’s why it’s a pickem last I saw. If either team gets in trouble early it could be a blowout either way. I don’t see it happening. Looks to me like 2 teams with great offenses and not much denfense. Probably last team to score wins.

[Yote 53]

Defenses can cause turnovers too, it's not just all on the offense making a mistake. The stand that USD made at the end, that fumble was caused by a D Lineman jarring the ball and then a USD defender coming in and laying the wood, separating the RB from the ball. It's not like they fumbled the handoff or something. The one pick in the end zone, the USD defender was in the receivers hip pocket in a good inside position, got a great jump on the ball, undercut the receiver, and came up with the pick. That's textbook what you teach your DBs in how to cover. Another pick, the USD defense had the receiver bracketed in zone and the QB tried to fit the ball in the window. Probably shouldn't have thrown the ball, but again, good coverage by the defense resulted in a turnover.

All last week I read how Streveler was banged up, he will be ineffective. The guy accounted for over 400 yards and 4 TDs and there were posters here who were "disappointed" in his performance, expected more, or thought he "laid an egg". He did not attempt to run all day, not until the very end, by design. As long as USD was ahead he was in game management mode and there was no reason to open up the playbook. There wasn't much of an attempt to get the run game going at all, with the RBs or the QB, because the offense did what it wanted through the air.

This week I expect more out of the offense. More diverse play calling, an establishment of the running game, and an establishment of the QB as a true threat to run for big yardage and that will change the complexion of the game. Defensively, I expect USD to tighten up the coverage, get more pressure on the QB, and tackle better. That might have been the second worst defensive performance I saw all year (NDSU being the worst game). Hopefully the staff and players get that corrected.

I love the SHSU over-confidence in this one. I was reading how USD should get blown out by 21 points, but when it was time for the money people to put up the line on the game it was USD that was favored, now the line has settled in at even. Tells me this should be a pretty close, hard fought ball game.

[Professor Chaos]

Defenses can cause turnovers too, it's not just all on the offense making a mistake. The stand that USD made at the end, that fumble was caused by a D Lineman jarring the ball and then a USD defender coming in and laying the wood, separating the RB from the ball. It's not like they fumbled the handoff or something. The one pick in the end zone, the USD defender was in the receivers hip pocket in a good inside position, got a great jump on the ball, undercut the receiver, and came up with the pick. That's textbook what you teach your DBs in how to cover. Another pick, the USD defense had the receiver bracketed in zone and the QB tried to fit the ball in the window. Probably shouldn't have thrown the ball, but again, good coverage by the defense resulted in a turnover.

All last week I read how Streveler was banged up, he will be ineffective. The guy accounted for over 400 yards and 4 TDs and there were posters here who were "disappointed" in his performance, expected more, or thought he "laid an egg". He did not attempt to run all day, not until the very end, by design. As long as USD was ahead he was in game management mode and there was no reason to open up the playbook. There wasn't much of an attempt to get the run game going at all, with the RBs or the QB, because the offense did what it wanted through the air.

This week I expect more out of the offense. More diverse play calling, an establishment of the running game, and an establishment of the QB as a true threat to run for big yardage and that will change the complexion of the game. Defensively, I expect USD to tighten up the coverage, get more pressure on the QB, and tackle better. That might have been the second worst defensive performance I saw all year (NDSU being the worst game). Hopefully the staff and players get that corrected.

I love the SHSU over-confidence in this one. I was reading how USD should get blown out by 21 points, but when it was time for the money people to put up the line on the game it was USD that was favored, now the line has settled in at even. Tells me this should be a pretty close, hard fought ball game.
Of course that last fumble would've never happened if the replay official would've had the balls to overturn the 4th down spot on the play before like they should've which would've turned the ball over to USD on downs and essentially ended the game (barring a safety and hail mary).

As to the rest of your post bolded is very much an "out there" assumption. It's not like USD's defense just had a bad game against Nicholls, poor pass coverage and overall bad defense has been a trend for them over the last month plus. SHSU's offense might be better than any they've seen to this point and is certainly better than the Nicholl's offense they saw last week. USD's defense is going to have to play out of their minds IMO for this game to be anything close to a pick 'em.

[Yote 53]

Of course that last fumble would've never happened if the replay official would've had the balls to overturn the 4th down spot on the play before like they should've which would've turned the ball over to USD on downs and essentially ended the game (barring a safety and hail mary).

As to the rest of your post bolded is very much an "out there" assumption. It's not like USD's defense just had a bad game against Nicholls, poor pass coverage and overall bad defense has been a trend for them over the last month plus. SHSU's offense might be better than any they've seen to this point and is certainly better than the Nicholl's offense they saw last week. USD's defense is going to have to play out of their minds IMO for this game to be anything close to a pick 'em.

The one really bad defensive game USD put up this year just happens to be the one all you NDSU fans saw against your team. The defense played decent against SDSU and I would stack SDSU's offense up there against anybody in the country. Sure, SDSU still put up 31 points, but if USD holds SHSU to a similar 31 point output I would feel very confident in USD getting the win.

[caribbeanhen]

The one really bad defensive game USD put up this year just happens to be the one all you NDSU fans saw against your team. The defense played decent against SDSU and I would stack SDSU's offense up there against anybody in the country. Sure, SDSU still put up 31 points, but if USD holds SHSU to a similar 31 point output I would feel very confident in USD getting the win.

I believe closer to 50 might get you a win

this is an interesting FCS match up

[BNATION]

By game time this will be a SHSU -7 or 8 and I'd still slam it. Its as simple as this. SHSU will get more stops on defense than SD will. this very well could get out of hand if I am to judge the trouble SD had with the Nicholls Offense and quite frankly the Nicholls defense which we could have put 75 on. JS the recipe for a blowout is on the card. If SD has the same trouble running the football this will be a blowout of epic proportions. IMO under 100 yards on the ground for SD and blowout is in order.

[Yotes21]

By game time this will be a SHSU -7 or 8 and I'd still slam it. Its as simple as this. SHSU will get more stops on defense than SD will. this very well could get out of hand if I am to judge the trouble SD had with the Nicholls Offense and quite frankly the Nicholls defense which we could have put 75 on. JS the recipe for a blowout is on the card. If SD has the same trouble running the football this will be a blowout of epic proportions. IMO under 100 yards on the ground for SD and blowout is in order.

You crushed Nicholls...2 months ago...you also barely beat Northwestern State (who?) at home and needed a 4th quarter comeback a few weeks after.

USD averages more rushing yards per game than SHSU...but it's close.

Anything can happen in the playoffs...I hope your team is as overconfident as you.

[katss07]

You crushed Nicholls...2 months ago...you also barely beat Northwestern State (who?) at home and needed a 4th quarter comeback a few weeks after.

USD averages more rushing yards per game than SHSU...but it's close.

Anything can happen in the playoffs...I hope your team is as overconfident as you.

They won’t be more over confident. But they will win.

[Serpentor]

You crushed Nicholls...2 months ago...you also barely beat Northwestern State (who?) at home and needed a 4th quarter comeback a few weeks after.

USD averages more rushing yards per game than SHSU...but it's close.

Anything can happen in the playoffs...I hope your team is as overconfident as you.

Nobody is as overconfident as MVFC fans. Nobody.

[Bison56]

Nobody is as overconfident as MVFC fans. Nobody.

https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/article-inline-half/public/blogs/122348/2013/08/132048-131642.jpg?itok=Z9qybQl- (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjU7oaJ4-HXAhXKlVQKHQCwANAQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.psychologytoday.com%2Fblog%2 Fc-is-cognition%2F201308%2Fare-doctors-overconfident&psig=AOvVaw0UVt1-IK-ExOQYwf_sZ8Ey&ust=1511975818828994)

[Serpentor]

https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/article-inline-half/public/blogs/122348/2013/08/132048-131642.jpg?itok=Z9qybQl- (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjU7oaJ4-HXAhXKlVQKHQCwANAQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.psychologytoday.com%2Fblog%2 Fc-is-cognition%2F201308%2Fare-doctors-overconfident&psig=AOvVaw0UVt1-IK-ExOQYwf_sZ8Ey&ust=1511975818828994)

Hey, with the Bison fans, at least it's an earned sense of entitlement.

[BNATION]

Agree with that, wish i knew what one championship felt like much less 5 in a row.


Hey, with the Bison fans, at least it's an earned sense of entitlement.

[SoDakSA]

Nobody is as overconfident as MVFC fans. Nobody.

I would say that a University of North Carolina athlete registering for classes is more confident than us. But that is really the only example I can think of at the moment.

I am excited to see how USD comes out in this game. They looked like a threat to the conference championship, albeit against the bottom of the MVFC, at the start of the season. I think that Strev took too much of a beating by the mid-point and his play reflected that the second half and they ended up middle of the pack in-conference.

I admit I haven't seen a ton of SHSU this year, but I have tried check out pieces of most of the games. They are like the passing version of USD. Talented offense, talented enough defense.

As much as I want to stay in conference, I think the difference is the home-field. USD is a totally different team on the road and I think that Strev is hurt more than the team is letting on...add to that the secondary is thin and I have to give a nod to SHSU.

[ST_Lawson]

Is it too late for Nicholls to come back and win their game?

Or actually...since you've have to have a time machine for that...can I just go back and give WIU another 60 seconds against USD? We'd be 9-2 and have been seeded, USD would have finished 6-5 and would have been eating turkey leftovers last weekend.

Bah...how about both teams lose? No? Even if we call it a Christmas miracle? Still no?...damn.

Fine, how about South Dakota unleashes 70 points on Sam Houston, but the Bearcats put up 72 against a defense that is too busy counting rape charges and come away with a narrow win.

[Yotes21]

Is it too late for Nicholls to come back and win their game?

Or actually...since you've have to have a time machine for that...can I just go back and give WIU another 60 seconds against USD? We'd be 9-2 and have been seeded, USD would have finished 6-5 and would have been eating turkey leftovers last weekend.

Bah...how about both teams lose? No? Even if we call it a Christmas miracle? Still no?...damn.

Fine, how about South Dakota unleashes 70 points on Sam Houston, but the Bearcats put up 72 against a defense that is too busy counting rape charges and come away with a narrow win.

Come on ST, still salty about that loss? Don't get down by 30 and maybe you win. It's too bad you guys lost in the first round, I was rooting for you.

[LuckyKat]

Gonna be a #6

[Bison56]

Everyone is going to be shocked when this game ends 17-10.:D

[ST_Lawson]

Come on ST, still salty about that loss? Don't get down by 30 and maybe you win. It's too bad you guys lost in the first round, I was rooting for you.

Well, yeah, kinda. It was pretty much the only other game (other than last Saturday's) that I thought we very well could have won. We just didn't do enough (or more specifically, as much as USD did) to win. Acklin had a record-breaking game, but USD just outplayed us for slightly longer than we outplayed them. That wasn't one where I could realistically blame the refs or us playing poorly, or whatever...Coyotes just beat us. Guess I'm just still a bit raw from last weekend's loss and the fact that we had a great season going and now it's over.

[JSUSoutherner]

Everyone is going to be shocked when this game ends 17-10.:D
2-0

PJ Hall with a safety.

[Katfan]

2-0

PJ Hall with a safety.
Fitting FYI, the qbs aren’t the best players in this game.

[JSUSoutherner]

Fitting FYI, the qbs aren’t the best players in this game.
We all know Briscoe is a fraud. PJ Hall is easily the best player on SHSU's roster.

Streveler, however, is by far USD's best player.

[Katfan]

We all know Briscoe is a fraud. PJ Hall is easily the best player on SHSU's roster.

Streveler, however, is by far USD's best player.
I don’t think he’s a fraud but pj is by far the best player on the field. I’ve watched him 4 years and hate to see him go but think he’ll get a shot to play next year

[katss07]

We all know Briscoe is a fraud. PJ Hall is easily the best player on SHSU's roster.

Streveler, however, is by far USD's best player.
Briscoe may not be worthy of all the hype, but he is certainly no fraud. He is a playmaker and has a very good arm. I’m taking JB over Strev all day, every day. PJ Hall is the best player on the team. The guy is so damn talented, and the funny pat is that he is on defense. He makes our defense average. Despite a group of young safeties, our defense would be absolutely nothing without him.

Don’t over look Briscoe’s weapons. Remus Bulmer can run. He is a power guy and if you give him the rock, he can take it up the middle for four or five yards every time. We also have a very talented receiving group. Yedi, Stewart, Davis. Those three make plays all over the field. No pass is out of reach!

[thebootfitter]

Gonna be a #6Wait... Is this a prediction for an NDSU championship victory???

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[Daytripper]

We all know Briscoe is a fraud. PJ Hall is easily the best player on SHSU's roster.

Streveler, however, is by far USD's best player.

Fraud is overstating it. I think Briscoe is a good quarterback in a very QB friendly system. He would start on most FCS teams, with few exceptions. I'm not as high on him potentially playing at the next level, though. He has a strong arm but he makes a lot of poor decisions. PJ Hall is just a freak. He is at least double-teamed, and held, every play and still impacts the game.

[BNATION]

Easy on the fraud talk for the current Walter P award winner who broke the FCS passing record... But we have three standout recievers and 2 great running backs. Chris Stewart on the D line actually has shined slightly brighter than PJ this year (mostly due to the double teams PJ gets), our D line is pretty sound. Our second half defense is significantly worse than our first half which is a product of a offense that score or punt is only on the field for a average of 1:45....

[Sammy94]

Game notes.....

http://www.nmnathletics.com/fls/19900/pdf/2017_SHSU_FB_Game_Notes_USD.pdf?&&&&&&&&&&&SPSID=92955&SPID=11345&DB_OEM_ID=19900&_ga=2.251792201.1143729748.1511967868-560096924.1478791373

[BEAR]

South Dakota at Sam Houston State, Saturday, 2 p.m. CT, ESPN3

National TV:
ESPN College Extra
DirecTV 793

Online:
ESPN3
http://WatchESPN.com (http://www.espn.com/watch/_/id/3226314/south-dakota-vs-sam-houston-state-second-round-ncaa-division-i-fcs-football-championship)
WatchESPN and ESPN apps

Talent:
David Saltzman, play-by-play
Dustin Fox, analyst

[Sammy94]

Big South refs

[katss07]

Better than SLC refs.

[BreakEvenPeach]

Better than SLC refs.

Any tickets left for this game that you know of? Ill be coming through town right around game time.

[katss07]

Any tickets left for this game that you know of? Ill be coming through town right around game time.

No guarantees, but I would assume there will be some GA tickets left. A good crowd is expected, but I would assume there will be a few left when the offices open. I would advise you to get tickets as early as you can get them and not wait until close to game time.

Again, I don’t know much about the current situation, but I know they were preparing for a large crowd.

[FUGameBreaker]

I think this one could be a high scoring affair

[BreakEvenPeach]

No guarantees, but I would assume there will be some GA tickets left. A good crowd is expected, but I would assume there will be a few left when the offices open. I would advise you to get tickets as early as you can get them and not wait until close to game time.

Again, I don’t know much about the current situation, but I know they were preparing for a large crowd.

Thanks man, appreciate the info!

[Professor Chaos]

I think this one could be a high scoring affair
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[JSUSoutherner]

Big South refs
Dang, I was hoping for OVC refs.

Just because watching them throw a PI flag every play in this game might set a new record for the longest football game in history.

[Billnonymous]

the line on this game went from SHS -2.5 to off the board to South Dakota -5.

[CappinHard]

the line on this game went from SHS -2.5 to off the board to South Dakota -5.

That's odd, but I'm guessing it's because another book opened at USD -4.5 today, and they felt they needed to adjust to match it. Bookmaker.eu added the FCS games this morning and has USD at -4.5. This is back to being driven by computer Sagarin, Massey, etc.

[katss07]

the line on this game went from SHS -2.5 to off the board to South Dakota -5.

The Kats are favored by 5 I believe.

Just checked, I guess not. Strange. I don’t see how betting on USD is smart.

[Katfan]

The Kats are favored by 5 I believe.
Nope just looked sd by 4.5

[caribbeanhen]

That's odd, but I'm guessing it's because another book opened at USD -4.5 today, and they felt they needed to adjust to match it. Bookmaker.eu added the FCS games this morning and has USD at -4.5. This is back to being driven by computer Sagarin, Massey, etc.

Yes, and those computers are displaying MFVC bias because S Dakota was supposed to beat Nicholls by at least 20....

[katss07]

Yeah, MVFC bias plays a factor. What surprises me is USD just beat Nicholls by 7. Nicholls is inferior to SHSU, as shown in the regular season meeting. Why would they have USD as a favorite after that preformance. Common opponents can determine a lot. We play the game for a reason, but don’t see how Sam is a home dog.

Last time we were home dogs we put up 60 on UCA. Keeler and the players don’t look at the line. Go out there. Win. Advance

[Katfan]

Line down to 4. These games don’t draw that much action so literally every $1,000 net moves the number.

[cx500d]

Line down to 4. These games don’t draw that much action so literally every $1,000 net moves the number.


I just put 37 cents down on the game, expect another jump

[katss07]

Heading up to Huntsville, hearing ticket sales are average. Some chairbacks still available. Couple thousand on the visiting side. Should be a decent crowd. Im assuming student turnout will be decent, at best. I would guess about 11,000 will be at the game. Kat fans are lazy and wait until gameday to pick up tickets, so I’m sure many will be purchasing some today.

Great weather. A little chilly, but sunny. Should be great weather this afternoon.

[Daytripper]

I guess the wise guys know something the rest of us don't. On the face of it, SHSU should be a 6-9 point favorite. SHSU has the home field advantage. USD has it's second straight long road trip to the South. SHSU is healthy with an extra week of rest. USD barely beat a team that SHSU thrashed. But, this is why we play the games....

[Bison56]

It's always difficult playing a team you are not as familiar with.

[katss07]

I guess the wise guys know something the rest of us don't. On the face of it, SHSU should be a 6-9 point favorite. SHSU has the home field advantage. USD has it's second straight long road trip to the South. SHSU is healthy with an extra week of rest. USD barely beat a team that SHSU thrashed. But, this is why we play the games....
Completely true. SHSU shouldn’t be underdogs. I will stand by my SHSU by 17 prediction. Line is dropping though...

[POD Knows]

I guess the wise guys know something the rest of us don't. On the face of it, SHSU should be a 6-9 point favorite. SHSU has the home field advantage. USD has it's second straight long road trip to the South. SHSU is healthy with an extra week of rest. USD barely beat a team that SHSU thrashed. But, this is why we play the games....Agree, I just can't see a scenario where USD is a favorite in this game, but then again, I am the worst prognosticator on this site.

[F'N Hawks]

They adjusted the lines big time. Weber State dropped + 3.

I cannot believe the line swung all the way to Sam Houston +6 1/2.....at home that's kind of crazy.

[F'N Hawks]

The SHSU total dropped to 73.5 from 80.5. This is some whacked out shiznit going on today.

[katss07]

This is some crazy ****! I can’t keep up with who the favorite is at this point. It doesn’t matter though...Get Out There. Win. Advance.

[Bisonwinagn]

I think USD is too beat up and wore down to be competitive in this game. They don't have the depth yet. If this was September when they were fresh I would pick them to win. I'm going with SAM by 4 TD's. It's surprising how many people are picking USD.

[Lorne_Malvo]

The Kats are favored by 5 I believe.

Just checked, I guess not. Strange. I don’t see how betting on USD is smart.

Because USD will win?

[cx500d]

I think USD is too beat up and wore down to be competitive in this game. They don't have the depth yet. If this was September when they were fresh I would pick them to win. I'm going with SAM by 4 TD's. It's surprising how many people are picking USD.

I agree


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[Serpentor]

Because USD will win?

When you're proven wrong in a few hours, will you apologize?

[cx500d]

When you're proven wrong in a few hours, will you apologize?

He’s a dickhead, so I’d guess not


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[Sammy94]

When you're proven wrong in a few hours, will you apologize?

lol no, have you not heard the MVFC excuses before?

[cx500d]

lol no, have you not heard the MVFC excuses before?

Sometimes, but most realize if someone wins, it’s because they are better on that day.


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[CappinHard]

They adjusted the lines big time. Weber State dropped + 3.

I cannot believe the line swung all the way to Sam Houston +6 1/2.....at home that's kind of crazy.

It's not that crazy. 5dimes was the only book that had the odds until today. When other books added them today, they didn't want to follow the adjusted lines at 5dimes, they're going to trust the computers and adjust lines from there according to their own liabilities. Trust me, most of us spend more time paying attention to FCS football than these books do.

[Lorne_Malvo]

When you're proven wrong in a few hours, will you apologize?

Why would I do that? Do you understand what question marks are?
You still have a little sand in your v I guess.

[Sammy94]

Looks like a light crowd, would post pre-game pics from the field if I could figure it out.

[cx500d]

Looks like a light crowd, would post pre-game pics from the field if I could figure it out.


Thats alright, we know what Bowers looks like empty.

[dewey]

Looks like a light crowd, would post pre-game pics from the field if I could figure it out.

If you have the tapatalk app that will make it easier. Otherwise click on the image that looks like a tree on the right side above the reply window.

Dewey

[Sammy94]

The tree thing isn’t working. Will try tapatalk

[dewey]

The tree thing isn’t working. Will try tapatalk

FWIW tapatalk always works better for me.

Dewey

[cx500d]

I'll help you out....I rerouted some overhead imagery:

http://www.shsu.edu/~mls_www/cadets/pt/images/OJVPDDUOQTPNSPG_20080728185008.jpg

[Bison56]

I'll help you out....I rerouted some overhead imagery:

http://www.shsu.edu/~mls_www/cadets/pt/images/OJVPDDUOQTPNSPG_20080728185008.jpg

xlolx

[Serpentor]

Why would I do that? Do you understand what question marks are?
You still have a little sand in your v I guess.

Tell your mom not to visit the beach before coming to see me and that won't happen.

[Lorne_Malvo]

Tell your mom not to visit the beach before coming to see me and that won't happen.

That makes absolutely zero sense, but that's pretty much your wheelhouse.
Come back one day when you get out of high school.

[Sammy94]

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[cx500d]

not sure I've seen Streveler slide before

[Twentysix]

Woah. Are there 1000 fans at this game? It doesn't look like it on TV.

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[Twentysix]

Woah. Are there 1000 fans at this game? It doesn't look like it on TV.

Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using TapatalkOk the middle looks pretty full

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[cx500d]

nice punt

[Twentysix]

Td Kats

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[cx500d]

yep, usd secondary exposed without their rapists....

[The Kicker]

Wow bad PI call. USD not looking good early.

[Nickels]

LOL. Worst PI call I've ever seen.

[Lorne_Malvo]

LOL. Worst PI call I've ever seen.

Terrible call.

[dewey]

LOL. Worst PI call I've ever seen.

Agreed. That was uncatchable.

Dewey

[Lorne_Malvo]

SHSU dirty af.

[BNATION]

Sam H is getting hosed. Two horrible calls. Ball 10 yards out of bounds PI. Just because Strev gets hit hard RTP. Horse ****.


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[X-Factor]

USD on the board


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[Bisonator]

Sam H is getting hosed. Two horrible calls. Ball 10 yards out of bounds PI. Just because Strev gets hit hard RTP. Horse ****.


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Agree with the bad PI call but that PF was legit. Can't throw the QB down after the play.

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The shootout looks to be on schedule.xlolx